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The Singapore of today, the
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one featured in Crazy Rich Asians,
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with its luxury shopping malls, mansions
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and an airport complete with a butterfly garden
0:16
and a movie theater. That's a
0:18
relatively new phenomenon. Less
0:21
than sixty years ago, Singapore was newly
0:23
independent and incredibly poor.
0:26
Three quarters of the city's population lived
0:28
in overcrowded slums without electricity
0:31
or proper sanitation. The
0:33
environment was extremely bad. Just to
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prove it to you, you could actually
0:38
blindfold yourself and you know
0:41
you're at Singapore River. Why
0:44
it could smell in Singapore
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River. That's the Singapore
0:49
we will indose states. That's Low
0:51
Tiker, and he's one of the main reasons
0:53
the city is so different today. People
0:56
call him the architect of modern Singapore.
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Lou always had dreams of bettering his circumstances
1:03
and those of the city he grew up in. At
1:05
a young age, he decided to study architecture
1:08
so he could one day help build up
1:10
Singapore. His studies took him
1:12
to Australia, then Yale, and
1:15
then to New York, where he worked for the famed
1:17
architect I. M. P. Then
1:20
he got the opportunity he had been preparing for
1:23
In nineteen sixty nine, Louis asked to
1:25
come back to Singapore to join its
1:27
recently established Housing Development
1:29
Board, or the HDB. Its
1:31
goal was to improve the city's housing conditions,
1:34
and the Government of Singapore decided,
1:37
if we want to have a sustainable
1:40
city compatible
1:42
with all the other larger countries,
1:46
we must achieve excellence.
1:48
And one of the signs
1:50
of removing backwardness
1:53
is to remove the squats and house
1:56
everybody in housing.
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But it was about more than just putting a decent
2:01
roof over people's heads. Singapore
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is a tiny island state with no agricultural
2:07
industry. Singapore's key resource
2:10
is its people, so the government
2:12
wanted to make Singapore somewhere people wanted
2:14
to live and stay, a place
2:16
they were invested in. When
2:19
you own your own properties,
2:22
then you feel that you have
2:24
taken root in the society. And
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I also want to defend on
2:30
the one to defend for the survival of the
2:32
country. On the hand is to help
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build the economy of the country, and
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it went even further than that. The
2:40
government also felt that if it met
2:42
people's basic needs housing,
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education, health care, then
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they'd be able to thrive and in turn
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help Singapore's economy grow.
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Within a few years, more than four hundred thousand
2:55
people were living in h GB rentals.
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Singapore must be one of the few places is in the
3:00
world where a statutory board satisfactorily
3:02
completed everything is set out to do in its first
3:05
five year plan. Then in
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nineteen sixty four, the government want a step
3:09
further and began to allow to encourage
3:12
even lower middle income citizens
3:14
to buy their apartments at prices well
3:17
below market rates. After
3:19
five years, they could sell them on the open market.
3:22
That program allowed many Singaporeans
3:24
to make a lot of money. If
3:27
you bought an HDB apartment and
3:30
sold it twenty five years later, you'd
3:32
have made your money back more than ten times
3:34
over. Today, Singaporeans
3:37
expect to own their homes. Almost
3:40
of the population does, and eventually
3:42
to sell them at a profit. With
3:44
one sweeping policy, Singapore had managed
3:47
to ensure that the vast majority of its population
3:49
had a clean, modern place to live, and
3:52
it had boosted its economy. Singapore
3:55
is now one of the richest countries per capita
3:58
in the world. Then
4:00
the pandemic ushered in Singapore's worst
4:02
ever recession, and median household
4:05
income fell for the first time in a decade,
4:08
and while Singapore did a pretty good job containing
4:10
the virus, the pandemic brought havoc
4:12
to the city's carefully controlled real estate
4:15
market. The economy
4:17
shrank, but home prices continued to
4:19
rise. The average private property
4:21
now costs about fifteen times median
4:23
household earnings. That's higher than
4:26
New York, London or San Francisco.
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I do worry that nowadays the
4:32
public housing presses is really
4:34
a business venture then actually
4:36
solving the housing need. I
4:39
feel that the implication may not
4:41
be very good for the economic
4:43
development of Singapore. Jobless
4:46
claims coming in, I mean really jumping from
4:49
the week before, pretty brutal, three
4:51
point to a million record
4:53
six point six million Americans filed
4:55
for unemployment last week. Indian
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working women, but the worst impact
5:00
did the pandemic. Prices of
5:02
public housing. We sail flats have hit an
5:04
old time high in the first quarter of the
5:06
year. Well now to the billionaire boom.
5:08
According to Bloomberg, super yacht charters
5:11
are up over three d and
5:14
a billionaire was created every twenty
5:17
six hours during this pandemic. It
5:19
is time for a wealth tax
5:21
in America. Welcome
5:28
back to the paycheck. I'm Rebecca Greenfield.
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By many accounts, Singapore is a pandemic
5:35
and an inequality success story. The
5:37
country kept its COVID death rates relatively
5:40
low, and it's a rich country
5:42
where many people live relatively comfortably.
5:46
But as we've learned this season, no place can
5:48
fully insulate itself from the effects of a
5:50
pandemic, and Singapore felt
5:53
huge economic shocks that have hit its core
5:55
affordable housing super hard. Like
5:58
in many big cities around the world, demand for
6:00
housing spiked during the pandemic. People
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were reevaluating their life choices and
6:06
the homes they were suddenly spending way more time
6:08
in, and they were enjoying record
6:10
low interest rates. As
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a result, Singapore is becoming more and
6:15
more stratified, and that's left
6:17
its citizens starting to question whether the
6:19
city's wildly successful housing experiment
6:22
is still working for them. In the election,
6:25
the ruling People's Action Party suffered
6:27
its worst parliamentary results and more
6:30
than sixty years of unbroken rule.
6:32
Observers blamed the outcome on younger voters,
6:35
and they're growing fears about inequality. They
6:39
worry they can't match the economic advancement
6:41
their parents enjoyed. If the
6:43
problem remains unresolved. Singapore
6:46
is at risk of losing its only resource,
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It's people. My colleague
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Forest Moctar grew up in Singapore and
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has worked as a reporter there for the past ten
6:56
years. Here he is with the story. For
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most people in Singapore, home is
7:08
an HTB apartment like the one
7:10
I'm standing outside right now. I
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grew up in one of these government built units,
7:15
and my parents still live in one today.
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They're usually found in high rise blocks
7:20
on clean tree line streets, and
7:22
the largest are big enough for a family of five
7:24
like mine. The blocks
7:26
look pretty unremarkable to anyone
7:29
familiar with public housing, but
7:31
they have a couple of uniquely Singaporean
7:33
features. Here on the ground
7:36
floor, there's an open sheltered space
7:38
called the Void Deck. It's
7:40
a shady communal gathering place out of the
7:42
equatorial sunshine, and you will sometimes
7:44
even see weddings and funerals
7:47
held here. Inside newer flats,
7:50
you'll often find a built in bomb
7:52
shelter. That's the worst case
7:54
preparation measure, just in case the
7:56
city is ever under attack, but
7:58
mostly they just yet used as extra
8:01
storage space. I have friends
8:03
who is there as walking wardrobes
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or even makeshift wine salist and
8:08
like almost everything in Singapore, HDB
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flats have been meticulously planned.
8:14
I was very and viewers
8:16
of the old cities in the West
8:19
in Europe particularly and also Manhattan.
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That's Liu Tiger again, the architect
8:25
of modern Singapore. So I wanted
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Singapore to be as good as
8:30
those and the second or strain
8:33
as a planner, so I want to make sure that
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Singapore functions well.
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Liu and the HDB agency took into
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account everything from the facilities
8:43
available in each neighborhood to
8:45
even the amount of light that was needed.
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When there's no no good lighting, people
8:50
are in a bad wood and therefore they
8:53
tend to fight more. So all this
8:55
things have been built into the
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hardware from the get go. The
9:00
founding leaders of Singapore determined
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that housing and home ownership would
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be one of the city state's core payless
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and for their kids it has been.
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But as prices keep going up, not
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everyone is convinced the government's
9:14
plan is still working for everyone. Obviously,
9:17
people need a place to live, right, they desire
9:21
good places, high quality places to live,
9:23
but they should focus on it as a
9:26
good, not an asset. That's
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Christopher g He's a senior researcher
9:32
at a Singapore think tank called the Institute
9:34
of Policy Studies has been looking
9:36
at the city's approach to housing for the last
9:39
decade. If you encourage
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that idea that it is an asset and
9:44
people can speculate to grow wealthy, then
9:47
it kind almost ends up in
9:49
as your some game. But if people think a plant,
9:52
this is a good right, then we do
9:54
get good out of it. It's for your consumption.
9:57
You should buy it, utilize
10:00
it for what it is worth
10:02
to you, not to think that, okay,
10:04
you can flog it onto somebody else at a higher
10:07
price. What he's saying is that increasing
10:09
property prices are a zero sum
10:12
game because it would be buyas lose
10:14
out, even as existing homeowners
10:16
see their wealth grow. In
10:19
other words, the system can lead to inequality,
10:22
and Singapore's government worries about
10:24
inequality, which can have a corrosive
10:27
effect on social cohesion and
10:29
can even drive social unrest.
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Inequality is an issue
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that affects people's trust
10:37
in each other. If there is a big
10:39
difference in someone's lived experience,
10:41
someone's opportunities, it's
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harder for you to understand and
10:46
put yourself into the position of the other. It
10:48
also strikes into the social compact. It
10:51
strikes against the Singapole pledge
10:53
right. We pledge ourselves to developer
10:56
adjusting equal society, and
10:58
I think if we don't hold that, then
11:00
there's something problematic. Singapore's
11:17
reaches residents wouldn't blink at
11:19
sucking out millions for a new pad, but
11:22
soaring property prices, even
11:24
for government built apartments, have become
11:27
a real concern for many ordinary people.
11:30
Even a relatively simple
11:32
four bedroom public unit can go for more
11:34
than four hundred thousand Singapore dollars,
11:37
which is about two D nine U
11:40
S dollars. An apartment in a prime
11:42
location can fetch more than three
11:44
times that amount, and in Singapore's
11:47
carefully planned housing market, things
11:49
are even more complicated. For younger
11:52
would be biased under thirty
11:54
five don't qualify for subsidized
11:56
HDB apartments known as
11:58
built to order units or b t o
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s unless they are married. Abishak
12:04
Rabbi Christian is one of those ordinary
12:06
Singaportians who's worried by rising
12:08
prices. I think it's a huge
12:11
problem the affordability. It's public housing,
12:13
after all, but it doesn't match up to
12:15
the price. What you're paying for it's
12:17
not the paying field, but when public housing
12:19
is meant to be more accessible to the public, so
12:21
affordability is definitely a huge
12:23
issue for me personally. Other
12:26
Shack is thirty three years old, a young professional
12:29
who doesn't yet have a family to worry about.
12:31
It's a long way from the bottom of singapore
12:34
social economic ladder. Even so,
12:36
his hopes of buying a property as an
12:38
investment are dimming. We've
12:41
all grown up with their mindset. But to
12:43
me, I think exchanged over time after seeing
12:46
what's happened, especially with the increased
12:48
prices of public housing, which I essentially
12:51
meant for the public, but the prices
12:53
have gone up because you're allowed to flip
12:55
it around. Obviously, property can be
12:57
an asset, but for some
13:00
one whose middle income or lower
13:02
mill income, I don't think it's a viable
13:04
means of profity. Abishay
13:06
is well aware of the benefits that the country
13:08
has already seen as a result of these
13:11
policies, but he's also resigned
13:13
to the fact that he's unlikely to experience
13:16
the same social uplift as previous
13:18
generations have enjoyed. At
13:20
that point. The seventies and eighties
13:23
decisions will meet with that generation
13:25
in mind and how to move them forward.
13:27
And obviously it's helped singapore development
13:30
and growth over the last forty years has
13:32
been phenomenal, so I don't think there's resentment
13:34
to it. But right now the middle
13:36
incomes getting squashed because it's
13:38
very difficult to break out of that cycle. The
13:40
pandemic showed Abish just how deep
13:43
the divide between rich and poor can
13:45
be. For him, the real question
13:48
is not just how Singapore managers is housing
13:50
supply, it's whether everyday
13:52
people still have the opportunity to thrive.
13:55
I questioned the level of meritocracy.
13:58
I've always questioned it, but because obviously
14:01
we're living in the real world where connections, knowing
14:03
people having strong networks, having
14:06
come from different backgrounds, or
14:08
having your background might determine where you're gonna
14:11
end up. So I don't personally
14:13
believe that Singapore is society
14:15
that's based completely on meritocracy. For
14:17
me, personally, housing is I
14:20
want to build a home for myself and a
14:22
place where I can come back to and I
14:24
feel a sense of belonging, So not
14:26
only the actual property itself,
14:29
but the surroundings as well. And that's
14:31
a bit idealistic. On my part, but
14:34
it has to be a place that means something to me, like
14:36
carb shaped. Julian too, is in
14:38
her early thirties with the career
14:41
and no family yet. COVID
14:43
was one of the forces that prompted her to think
14:46
about buying her own home. With
14:48
the pandemic, it was a catalyst
14:51
for a lot of people like myself to move out
14:53
of their parental homes, and from
14:55
there actually realized that I really
14:57
enjoy living on my own. I really
15:00
wanted to have a place that I could
15:02
do it myself and really call a
15:05
home of my own, rather than her sprinting.
15:07
Even though she got some help from her
15:09
parents to make the purchase, surging
15:12
prices were still a consideration. If
15:14
I wasn't fortunate enough to her parents who
15:16
were able to help me, I would have to wait
15:19
until a thirty five to buy an HDB and
15:21
that's just just as really unfortunate,
15:24
right. She's still confident that she will make
15:26
a profit on her purchase eventually,
15:29
though a smaller one than previous generations
15:32
could have expected. So my parents
15:34
they were able to nine
15:37
x their original investment in the house.
15:40
My sister about ten eleven
15:42
years ago, she was able to double it, and
15:45
I'm seeing that decrease over
15:47
time. For sure. Personally, I would
15:49
see it as a home and a long term assat.
15:52
I have a couple of friends who have bought
15:54
b t O s and they're hoping to flip it up
15:57
after five to six years. I'm not
15:59
looking to do that sort of flipping, not
16:01
at least for the next eight to ten years.
16:04
I think it's all about the horizon that
16:06
you have in mind. I do think that it
16:08
will so be profitable and houses
16:10
will only continue to go up in price.
16:13
Joline's views aren't unusual. As
16:16
long as housing behaves like an investment
16:18
asset, it's all but inevitable
16:21
that many people will continue to treat it
16:23
like one. But whether
16:25
you see housing as an investment like
16:28
Joline or as more of a consumer
16:30
good like Abishaik, affordability
16:33
is an issue that's hard to ignore. It's
16:36
an issue I'm very familiar with myself.
16:39
I'm thirty three years old, and in twenty
16:41
twenty I did start thinking about purchasing
16:43
my first property. To my surprise,
16:46
prices skyrocketed despite
16:49
the pandemic and the recession. I
16:51
abandoned my plans, and I wonder
16:54
now whether I missed the boat. When
16:56
my parents sold our five bed fled in two
16:59
thousand and one, we moved into a smaller
17:01
unit, and they made a big enough profit
17:03
to buy the latest Nissan and to
17:05
top up their savings account too. I
17:08
know that kind of return is
17:10
a way out of reach for me now. I
17:13
get asked every now and then do
17:15
I plan to buy an apartment. I'm
17:18
too young to get an HDB as an unmarried
17:21
person, and I'm not going to get
17:23
married just so I can buy one. Finding
17:26
a girlfriend is a long enough
17:28
process. Rising housing
17:31
prices also scare me. Let's
17:33
say, if my future wife wants to buy
17:35
a home, maybe we'll do it. If
17:37
I'm on my own, I might stick with renting
17:40
and put my capital into stocks, cryptocurrency
17:43
or are the investments. When
17:50
I reached out to the National Development Ministry
17:53
to comment for this story, a
17:55
spokesperson said that HTB flats
17:57
are primarily intended as a home
17:59
for their owners to live in, as
18:01
well as being a good store value for
18:04
the owner's retirement. That's
18:07
in line with the ruling party's message about
18:09
the property market. Since it faced
18:11
unhappy voters during the first year
18:14
of the pandemic well. The ruling
18:16
People's Action Party has won every
18:18
election since independence, and
18:21
opposition politicians say the city's
18:23
election rules make it very hard for anyone
18:26
else to win. The government is
18:28
still very sensitive to signs that its
18:30
popularity is slipping. About
18:33
six months ago, it rolled out title
18:35
loan limits and additional property taxes
18:38
on second homes, the latest
18:40
of several rounds of measures designed
18:42
to cool house prices. It also
18:44
announced it will increase the supply of
18:46
housing, but it may
18:48
well take more than these measures to change
18:51
singaporeans attitudes to real estate.
18:54
Paul Tumbaya, who is chairman of the opposition
18:56
Singapore Democratic Party, says
18:58
it's high time property was handled
19:01
more like a consumer good. Again, housing
19:03
does not actually enable anybody to move up
19:06
the social letter unless you have a rich father
19:09
or mother. The vast majority of Singapore
19:11
is more than eight percent of them own only a single
19:13
property, the one in which they live. So
19:16
sure, if the value of this property rises,
19:18
they could be tremendously wealthy if they sell
19:20
the property, But then where are they going to live? The
19:23
original goals of public housing in Singapore
19:26
were very good and very noble. The idea
19:28
is that you provide a safe roof over
19:30
people's head, You provide them with
19:32
electricity, with clean water, and
19:35
so they can use their savings for
19:37
other things, for other far more productive
19:39
investments. So I think that's where housing
19:41
needs to go back to to provide for
19:43
a roof over the heads of the bulk of the population
19:47
is calling for an overhaul of the city's
19:49
housing model. In the early days,
19:51
you could only sell your HDB flat back
19:53
to the HDB and then the government
19:55
will put it into the general pool
19:58
of property that's available and then somebody
20:00
could buy it after that. This would be too drastic
20:02
a step to put in it one fell swoop. So
20:05
we've suggested that a certain portion of the housing
20:07
stopped being non open market, so
20:10
there would be open market flights which could
20:12
be sold on the open market, and the non open
20:14
market flights which would have to go back to the
20:17
HDB. And it's it's
20:19
not going to be easy and people are going to
20:21
have to come to terms with the idea of flipping
20:23
property is not the solution, but I think that's
20:26
more realistic. Paul's ideas aren't
20:29
the only ones in the mix right now. Well,
20:31
Singapore grapples with keeping housing affordable.
20:34
Some observers even suggest Singapore
20:37
should move away from its home ownership
20:39
model and instead encourage
20:41
renting, which is more common in
20:43
places like Germany or Japan. The
20:46
pandemic force people around the world
20:48
to think hard about how and where
20:50
they were living. In Singapore,
20:53
where home ownership has become a cornerstone
20:55
of national identity and a key
20:57
indicator of well being. It
21:00
wrought simmering concerns about wealth disparity
21:02
to the foe for young people,
21:04
in particular, calls for
21:07
housing to be treated as a good and
21:09
not an investment asset. Maybe
21:11
a signal that Singapore's original
21:13
housing experiment is getting closer
21:16
to having run its course. It's
21:18
the success story that our parents generation
21:21
have been able to use
21:23
to upgrade themselves. So
21:25
it's hard and for the government to now do
21:28
a reverse you turn and say that you know, we're
21:30
going to shift to a different model, it would
21:32
be very difficult and perhaps politically
21:35
unpopular. People are going to be upset,
21:38
right, but I think they can get over it. They
21:41
can't be their parents. I don't think they want to be their
21:43
parents. Singapore
21:53
shows that a country can drastically change
21:55
its economic fortunes. It can
21:57
also just as easily backslide. It
22:00
takes the right mix of policies, interventions,
22:03
and resources, but poverty
22:05
and inequality are not foregone
22:07
conclusions. Next
22:10
week, on our final episode of this season
22:13
of The Paycheck, we had to a utopia
22:15
of economic equality to see
22:17
if there are lessons to be learned for the rest
22:20
of the world. The objective
22:22
of the cooperative is not to produce rich
22:25
people, is to produce rich societies.
22:27
At the end of the day, even if you are
22:29
not rich, if you belong to a rich
22:31
society, you will be happy. Thanks
22:33
for listening to The Paycheck. This episode
22:35
originally said that Singapore has no manufacturing
22:38
sector. We've corrected the error
22:41
as the category now accounts for of
22:43
its GDP. If you like our show,
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review and subscribe. This episode
22:52
was hosted by Me Rebecca Greenfield and
22:54
reported by Forest mock Tar. It
22:57
was edited by Ellis McDonald and Janet
22:59
Paskin, with help from Francesca Levi, Racksheta
23:01
Soluja and me. We also
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had editing help from Daniel Balby, Shelley
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Banjo, Christin B. Brown, Gilda
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to Carly, Nicole Flato, and Kai Schultz.
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This episode was produced by Gilda to Carly and
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sound engineered by Matt kim Our.
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Original music is by Leo Sidron. Special
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thanks to Magnus Hendrickson, We Get Into
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Kayper, Margaret Sutherland, and Stacy
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Wong. Francesca Levi is Bloomberg's
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Head of Podcasts. See you next week.
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