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2:01

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doing Richard Grove? I'm

2:08

doing wonderfully well Pete. Thank you for

2:10

asking and I apologize for having to

2:12

be on the road with my CB

2:14

delay. Over. Yeah we

2:18

were spent about 10 minutes trying

2:20

to figure this out here but we

2:22

move on. We do

2:25

with the technology that's available to us at

2:27

the time. All right. Why don't you

2:29

tell everybody a little bit about yourself. Okay

2:33

yeah I was just gonna say so we

2:35

don't step over each other. I'll make sure you're

2:37

done talking and then I'll start talking and that's

2:39

usually how conversations are supposed to go anyway. They'll

2:42

just be a little extra second there.

2:44

I grew up, yeah how

2:47

you don't Pete. I grew

2:49

up I went to public school. I went

2:51

and got a job in the tech

2:54

sector and I was told that was like

2:56

gonna be the future and I

2:58

encountered obstacles in

3:00

reality that were not on the map

3:02

given to me by schooling and that

3:04

caused me to get off the corporate

3:06

career path and get into

3:08

much more interesting, substantial, meaningful lines

3:11

of using my cognition in this

3:13

world and I've

3:15

podcasted as a form of educating the public

3:17

since 2006 and I do a lot of other

3:21

interesting things to help provide solutions

3:23

as well as point out the

3:25

evidence of all the problems. What

3:27

was I gonna ask the oh

3:29

yeah here's a real simple question.

3:32

Are you ever gonna finish those volumes on

3:34

the Rothschilds? Yes

3:37

but they keep making more history and they're making

3:40

more history in the last 10 years than

3:42

they did like in the last 30

3:44

years. So just when I thought I

3:47

had something that was gonna be nicely

3:49

shaped in a couple volumes they added

3:51

like all this more all this new

3:53

archive material and stuff that they're actually

3:56

doing during COVID And the pandemic area. The.

4:00

Common Pass where they want you to

4:03

have a track, trace, database vaccine passport

4:05

type think they're involved with that. so

4:07

there's a whole lot of tech knockers.

4:10

See. Socialist utopia aneurysm that they're

4:12

behind today, but it also ties into

4:15

their tradition of banking and our oil

4:17

and the other they've invested in over

4:19

there's and they're really the mirror image

4:22

of what we know as the Rockefellers

4:24

Here because the Rockefeller started and oil

4:26

on got into banking and the Rothschild

4:29

family got into banking and then proliferated

4:31

into oil and the energy sector. A

4:33

second sector prep precious metals and then

4:36

financing government's is like where they really

4:38

broke ground and develop new territory. So.

4:42

Yes, I'm gonna finish it, but there's a lot. There's a

4:44

lot more to it and I want to do it right.

4:46

and it's worth doing right. Well.

4:48

I think the me bring up the

4:50

Rothschilds leads us into what we wanted

4:52

to talk about. Today we'll talk about

4:54

Autonomy Season Eleven at the end. Well

4:56

I get into what you're what you're

4:58

doing their the great work you been

5:00

to a narrow now for. Ten

5:04

Seasons and this will be number eleven.

5:06

But the reason I bring up the Rothschilds

5:08

as we wanted a soft today about.

5:10

Everything. Is going on Israel? But the history

5:13

of that business. People want to go back two

5:15

or three thousand years for the history that that

5:17

I don't allow him to. We go back on.

5:19

We go back a hundred and it's hundred and

5:22

ten years or will start from there. So I'm

5:24

I brought up the Rothschilds. If we're going to

5:26

talk about Israel, why would I even bring up

5:28

the Rothschilds? Well. Because

5:31

you must like spreading tropes, they

5:33

don't reflect history. p Because everyone

5:35

knows that the Rothschilds have nothing

5:38

to do with Israel. Who asks

5:40

questions or as the facetious answer?

5:42

the real answer is. The.

5:44

Rocks. Our banking family was highly

5:46

instrumental in creating the State of

5:48

Israel as well as the Apartheid

5:50

South Africa and. it's a long

5:53

history you referring one hundred and ten

5:55

years ago like almost balfour declaration era

5:57

i would actually take it back a

5:59

session before that because

6:01

the credible evidence starts to

6:04

build up around 1829. I would

6:08

cite a piece of evidence from 1829 in

6:11

the Niles Weekly Register, a newspaper of the

6:13

time, and in

6:15

there it has a report. Now

6:17

whether or not the report is true or not or the

6:19

person made it up or the person

6:21

made it up is right. It's a report in

6:24

a newspaper. So separate the messenger. Let's

6:26

study the message. The message is rumor

6:29

has it that Lord Rothschild or one

6:31

of the Rothschilds had done a deal

6:33

with the Sultan of Turkey to buy

6:35

Palestine. And if that's a made-up story

6:38

it reflects what later happens. And so

6:40

1829 there's that story. 1835 there's

6:44

a similar story in a

6:46

newspaper called the Columbian Star and

6:49

I have all the artifacts I

6:51

could send them to you afterwards. So

6:53

these two newspaper stories I'm

6:55

not claiming are anything other than stories

6:57

that took place. They may

6:59

or may not be true. You'd have to actually

7:01

dig in and see what was the evidence of

7:03

such things. But if it's a made-up

7:06

story and it actually predicts what happens

7:08

over the next hundred years, let's say,

7:10

that's an interesting starting point.

7:13

I would next go to 1840, 1841 Lord Palmerston

7:15

and Lord Shaftesbury in Britain.

7:21

They called for restoration of the

7:23

Jews to Palestine. That's the name

7:26

of the article in the colonial times. So it's 1841.

7:28

Jampa had 20 years to

7:33

1862 this cat named

7:36

Moses Hess. He

7:38

writes a book called Rome

7:40

and Jerusalem, the last

7:42

nationalist question. And

7:45

the whole book is about, first off,

7:47

Moses Hess is the father of

7:50

utopian socialism. And Then

7:52

on top of that, he writes this book, 1862.

7:54

This is 30 years before Herzl. He's saying. We

8:00

need to sequester Palestine for our

8:02

purposes and to do so. The

8:04

is it his group this is

8:06

Moses, has his claim has already

8:08

infiltrated there. Secret society has infiltrated

8:10

to free may sonic lodges of

8:12

Europe and Cook including Luxembourg. and

8:15

he refers to people in specificity

8:17

who's doing this right. So there's

8:19

a secret society that's taking over

8:21

freemasonry to bring about their goal

8:23

of bridges back to Palestine. Now

8:25

it's an interesting books. He's got

8:27

a lot of interesting quotes in

8:29

that. Book and that is.

8:33

Quintessential. History that's evidence. like

8:35

it's the. Primary Sources

8:37

hearings are going on. He names

8:39

of people who that he knows

8:41

are involved in the Rothschilds are

8:43

named among. Those. People there was

8:45

barren her she was couple other people. And

8:49

I think was barren Hearst it was leading

8:51

the infiltration of. Those. May sonic

8:53

launches of Moses Hess. So.

8:55

Now that ideas incubating. And

8:58

it's proliferating. And there is a

9:00

secret society going into these. even

9:02

secret society lodges like the Freemasonry.

9:04

Rice was like a top down

9:06

infiltrate, and that by the eighteen

9:08

seventies, eighteen eighties, there's a Czar

9:11

in Russia mysteriously I guess he

9:13

gets killed and then the pogroms

9:15

kind of start from there. And

9:18

there's a whole bunch of anti semitism

9:20

toward jews and around that same time.

9:23

Conveniently. Enough the of Friends Ross

9:25

ah colonizing Palestine so they started colonization

9:27

and now that's a bold claim. So

9:29

what is my reference? Because this is

9:31

not my opinion. I will state nothing

9:33

that his opinions in L to set

9:35

the show you what exists in our

9:38

shared reality in you can check out

9:40

Ah. The first book I would cite

9:42

would be. Rothschild.

9:45

and early colonization of palestine it's

9:47

published by ran errands and who's

9:49

from hebrew university it's a scholarly

9:52

book and it won't put the

9:54

words in palestine on the cover

9:56

el de se ra town early

9:59

causation yeah open the book to actually

10:01

see that it says in Palestine. Cause

10:03

Hebrew university, they want to keep it down low.

10:05

They'll tell you what's going on, but they don't

10:07

want to advertise. Cause that's kind of contrary to

10:09

the official narratives. Another would be 1978

10:12

Simon Shama. He

10:15

wrote a book called two Rothschilds and

10:17

the land of Israel. It's the French

10:20

Rothschild family and the English Rothschild family.

10:22

So from the French side, it's bare.

10:24

It's a Edmund de Rothschild and he

10:27

is buried in Israel. He's known as

10:29

the benefactor founder of Israel. Um,

10:32

his lineage founded the Knesset. So they

10:34

built the Capitol building and he was

10:36

featured on the 500 Shekel

10:38

note in the 1980s. So

10:40

Edmund de Rothschild, French house,

10:43

1880s colonizing Palestine, the

10:45

other Rothschild that Simon Shama is referring to

10:47

in two Rothschilds in the land of Israel

10:50

is Ford Walter Rothschild, Great

10:52

Britain. And he's the one

10:54

that's family leading the giant tortoise. He's riding

10:56

a tortoise and leading it around with a

10:58

piece of lettuce. And, uh,

11:00

that Lord Walter Rothschild is the

11:02

addresse to whom the Balfour

11:05

declaration is directed. He's

11:08

also the author of

11:10

the first Balfour declaration is Lord

11:12

Rothschild telling the British government. The

11:14

fifth draft is the

11:16

British government sending it back to him

11:19

saying, here you are, so it's a

11:21

very interesting piece. Again, not my opinion.

11:24

The reference will be balfour100.com. The

11:27

centennial celebration of the

11:29

Balfour declaration, the, what

11:31

is it? 76 words, 68

11:33

words that created the state of Israel.

11:35

And on the front page, you can

11:37

see Jacob Rothschild saying, here's how my

11:39

family created Israel. He's like, here's the

11:41

Balfour declaration and here's how this happened.

11:44

So it is very much not a

11:47

trope to talk about the

11:49

Rothschilds in relation to the founding of

11:51

the state of Israel, because it is

11:53

them in their own words, their social

11:55

history, and the trope is meant to

11:57

keep you from being ignorant of that,

11:59

right? When they say it's a trope or conspiracy

12:01

theory, someone knows that's true. They

12:04

don't want you to know it's true because

12:06

you might start to change your political opinions

12:09

on such events. That's why they

12:12

occult or hide such information and leave

12:14

you with these people are always being

12:16

attacked by these nasty Arabs over and

12:18

over again and they won't take a

12:20

peace treaty. What are we supposed to

12:23

do? We have to wipe them out. It's

12:25

total support for apartheid, ethnic cleansing

12:27

and genocide. All

12:30

right. So they get the Balfour

12:32

Declaration in 1917 and

12:34

that basically takes what is

12:37

that that transfers ownership of

12:39

Palestine from the Ottomans to

12:42

the English and I

12:44

assume by the English is just basically

12:46

handing it over to the

12:48

Rothschilds and their coterie

12:51

in England to start

12:53

doing what? So

12:56

the Balfour Declaration comes

12:58

about in 1917, November 2nd, 1917, but it really starts a

13:03

couple of years earlier with the British

13:05

and the French, Sykes and Pico doing

13:08

a survey and remapping the Middle

13:10

East in the image of the

13:12

Western countries. So this is before

13:15

World War I is even finished.

13:17

You've got the dividing up of land

13:20

that's not theirs. And then

13:22

you've got the promising of land from British

13:24

to groups that's not their land

13:27

to give, but they're going to make a deal with Lawrence of Arabia's

13:29

guys over here and they're going to make a deal

13:31

with the Zionists over here. So

13:33

in this middle of the Middle

13:35

East, the UK really has created a situation in

13:37

the Middle East like they've created a jar and

13:39

they put red ants and black ants in there

13:41

and then they put a label on the jar

13:43

that says shake this jar and start setting up.

13:46

And at some point you'll be militarized enough to

13:48

fight us out of here and you'll have your

13:50

own state. So that's kind of the plan

13:52

for it to come about. The

13:55

traditional view of the

13:57

situation is that Ted or

14:00

Hertzel in 1897 writes a book

14:02

called Der Judenstadt, which is the

14:04

Jewish state. And then they start

14:06

having conferences on how to make

14:08

this happen. And then Hitler

14:10

comes along and because of what he

14:12

does, it totally justifies everybody moving from

14:15

Europe, right? You take in Eastern

14:17

European Jews and you're moving them

14:19

to Palestine. There's already Mizrahi Jews,

14:21

natural indigenous Jews who live there

14:24

already that are not Zionists, right?

14:26

Hertzel and these guys are

14:28

secular atheists. So they see

14:31

that they want to get a political objective

14:34

and they use religious people as

14:36

a human shield to go and

14:38

be put in the way of

14:40

harm, colonizing, and they call it

14:42

colonization. There's the Palestine Jewish

14:44

Colonization Association. There's all sorts

14:46

of, I mean, the Balfour

14:48

Declaration is a colonization document.

14:51

Okay. So when they say they're not

14:53

colonizing, that's disingenuous record from the New

14:55

York Times, all the other official sources

14:58

from back in the day. Right? So

15:01

there's a lot of drama about these things

15:03

today and people don't understand anything

15:06

outside of the cartoon on both sides. Neither

15:09

side has been given a whole picture, which is kind

15:11

of why they fight. And if you

15:13

want to stop the war, you have to

15:15

get to what is the root cause. There's

15:17

major cywar and misunderstanding going on. And

15:19

any of these facts getting out there start to

15:22

have people say, whoa, let me, let me take

15:24

another look at this. Maybe I was wrong. So

15:27

during World War II, the

15:30

Zionists in Europe collaborated

15:33

with the Nazis under

15:36

the transfer agreement, the

15:38

Hvarra. They also worked

15:40

in many ways to

15:42

suppress movements of the wrong kind, what

15:45

they called the wrong kind of Jews

15:47

to the Palestine project. There

15:49

were Jews who they

15:52

felt were suitable to work the

15:54

land and ones who

15:56

were too intellectual and, and in

15:59

other words, like. week, right? And

16:01

it was a very racist view. Herzl

16:03

writes about this in

16:06

an essay called Malchael,

16:08

M-A-U-S-C-H-E-L. And Malchael is

16:10

an anti-Zionist, and he's the worst kind

16:12

of Jew. And so

16:15

he makes separations for

16:17

political, you know,

16:19

and separates basically orthodox people

16:22

and people of the scroll that

16:24

actually worship the religion. He didn't

16:26

find a use for them in

16:28

the Palestine project. He needed a different

16:31

group of people. So several decades

16:33

in the 1900s, you have that

16:36

need to have a lot of

16:38

Europeans move to Palestine, and they

16:41

don't want to move. So that's

16:43

why Zionist leaders were collaborating. And Ben-Gurion

16:45

had this quote that

16:48

he could save all the children, the Jewish

16:50

children of Germany by sending them to England

16:52

and only half by sending them to Palestine.

16:55

He would sacrifice half of them to

16:57

get the Palestine project, the colonization

17:00

underway. So that's

17:02

not a good reflection

17:04

of the founding fathers. And

17:07

it's not a quote out of context.

17:09

There's a whole bunch of quotes like

17:11

this. They also knew that they were

17:13

invaders, colonizers stealing the land of the

17:16

indigenous people, Christians, Jews, and Muslims that

17:18

lived there. And so

17:20

when they had gone through, you know,

17:24

according to Elon Poppy, they

17:26

had decided to do ethnic cleansing

17:29

of Palestinians in 1937, Pete, like

17:32

the tiny mustache, not even really a thing. They

17:34

decided they're going to go to this other land

17:36

and ethnically cleanse these people. So

17:40

it's an interesting history. And

17:42

it's not anything like the story that

17:44

we've been told as the official story

17:46

of this, you know, the

17:48

Ben Shapiro version of the story is

17:50

highly disingenuous. And either he doesn't know

17:53

these facts, or he's hiding and acculting

17:55

these facts. And in your case, he

17:57

should not be your go to for

18:00

or information on this political

18:02

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19:36

from what I understand, and

19:38

I've seen a lot of pictures, I've read

19:40

a lot of accounts that free

19:44

this movement to start bringing in

19:47

European secular Jews.

19:50

The Mizrahi, the Muslims

19:53

there, and even the Christians, they

19:56

had problems, but they seemed to get along

19:59

pretty well. they seem to their

20:01

society seem to be a society

20:04

that people actually move to,

20:06

they weren't escaping from.

20:10

Yes, and it was also a

20:13

move to make people in Palestine

20:15

pay for the people in Europe.

20:18

And so that's that's like a

20:20

whole separate aspect of it. When

20:22

when you look at the indigenous

20:24

people who live there say around

20:26

the year 1900 right, like

20:30

Christians, Muslims, and Jews, there

20:33

are no suicide bombers. There's like

20:36

in in the history if you look at the

20:38

Zionist side, they'll say the

20:40

Muslims have always been attacking us and

20:43

they cite the earliest citation and this

20:45

would be like who said it the

20:47

propaganda meister of Israel, Elon Levy says

20:51

you know 1928-29 Hebron massacre

20:54

the Arabs. And my point would be

20:56

that's 12 years after they're being colonized

20:58

by the British and their lands being

21:01

taken away and you've got people settling.

21:03

So actually not a sign that they

21:05

were instantly hostile. It says they were kind

21:07

of patient and then it got to a

21:10

point where they became violent, right?

21:12

And so when you can't

21:14

show me where's where's the massacre you

21:16

know in 1916,

21:18

like before this agenda started rolling out the

21:20

Arabs were not going around hunting people and

21:22

doing those sort of things. But

21:25

if you live on a land and other people

21:27

make a plan to come take it and

21:30

they include in their

21:32

plan the imperviousness to

21:34

criticism, that's it.

21:36

I mean that's that's a foe to be dealt with

21:39

and it's that's why it's going on so long because

21:43

you know the advanced nature of

21:45

the propaganda over the years. I

21:48

mean we've seen it now live

21:50

real time in the past five months from

21:52

the 40 beheaded babies and all the other

21:54

those are actual tropes by the way. The

21:56

things without evidence that are repeated by everybody

21:58

those are the actual tropes.

22:02

So the things with evidence and reality,

22:04

that's just education and history. And those

22:06

are things that help us understand and

22:08

navigate these very complex situations. So

22:12

the indigenous folks, yeah, they were fine

22:14

until other people came in and took

22:16

78% of their

22:18

land like that in

22:21

1948. March 10, 1948, they just make a decision and they're

22:23

like, all

22:26

that stuff's ours now. And this is

22:28

before the United Nations was

22:30

like, it might have

22:33

been, I think it was before.

22:35

So there's a chronological order of

22:38

colonization, militarization,

22:40

because the three groups that really make Israel

22:43

are the Irgun, the Haganah, and the

22:45

Stern Gang. And the Stern Gang worked

22:48

with the Nazis on

22:50

the project to get people to move

22:53

that didn't want to move. And

22:55

so that's a horrific part of history

22:57

that should be respected and studied, because

23:00

it does tie into some other

23:02

major events. Just

23:05

to steel man this, you mentioned 1928 and 1929, that the

23:07

Jews were taking land. What

23:15

Ben Shapiro will tell you is that

23:17

they were moving in there, they were

23:19

buying up land legally. They have the

23:21

deeds to prove it, that the Arabs

23:23

that were there were just selling the

23:25

land and they were selling it for

23:27

peanuts. And it's not their fault that

23:31

these sales were made. You made it sound like they

23:33

were going in there in 1928 and 1929 and

23:36

just taking land. So why don't you talk about

23:38

that? Okay,

23:40

so Ben Shapiro's point

23:43

never includes the Balfour Declaration, which

23:46

is the origin of the British

23:48

Empire giving away land that was

23:50

not theirs to a

23:53

political group that rightfully represent

23:55

religious Jews. And then later as

23:57

a function of that, the equating

24:00

Judaism with Israel, right?

24:03

Really taking the historical story and putting

24:05

it into their political power. So

24:09

in 1928 and 1929 in

24:12

Hebron, those people aren't

24:14

necessary – what the story is

24:17

is they were absentee landlords who were

24:19

doing deals. So when you look into

24:21

the nature of those deals, it's not

24:24

exactly as clean as the

24:26

lawyer Ben Shapiro would have you believe. And

24:30

the denial of these people to

24:32

have self-direction and

24:35

autonomy, because the other

24:37

part of World War I's Versailles Treaty

24:39

that people don't get is

24:41

that if you look at it from the

24:43

psychics' pico perspective before the

24:45

war ended, the British

24:48

and the French had already divided up all these countries. And

24:51

claimed them as their colonies. So

24:53

while the British are doing the Balfour

24:55

Declaration for Palestine and having a

24:57

mandate for the next 20 years to run it, well,

25:00

guess who controls Israel? I'm sorry, not

25:02

Israel, Egypt, the neighbor, Great

25:04

Britain. And who are

25:06

the countries around it? Trans-Jordan, Iraq? These

25:09

are all set up, artificially created. The

25:11

British are like, hey, this family can

25:13

go run Iraq now. And

25:16

this family can go run Trans-Jordan or

25:18

Jordan, right? And so it

25:20

was really a grand chessboard moment

25:23

of higher-ups dividing

25:26

up the land. And then they put the people

25:28

on the – I bought a deed and I

25:31

paid for it, and maybe that was real or

25:33

maybe it wasn't, but I'm an innocent person just

25:35

trying to settle. I bought this house. They

25:38

create and put those people – those are the real

25:40

human shields, the ones they put

25:42

knowingly into conflict with the indigenous people. So

25:45

they could fight and create the place in the first

25:47

place, while the people who funded it stayed

25:49

in France, stayed in Britain. So

25:53

even though Edmund de Rothschild is

25:55

buried in the country he helped

25:57

to create, I'm pretty sure he spent his

25:59

whole life in France. There's and directed it

26:01

from afar with his proxies

26:03

like their Air Erlanger Brothers.

26:06

And the Erlanger Brothers. Helped.

26:09

With the Colonization of Palestine project

26:11

starting in the eighteen eighties. But

26:13

they also are the ones the

26:15

proxy. The Rothschild proxy to work

26:17

with the Confederate during the American

26:19

Civil War. Because the British and

26:21

the the Rothschilds syndicate they had

26:23

a strong leaning on the slave

26:25

triangle trade, ended up cotton at

26:27

one place and opium on the

26:29

other side of the world. And

26:31

so and I'm someone like a

26:33

bench, Shapiro can bring out the

26:35

points. He can never tell you

26:37

what it means. Like who is

26:39

Silly Deck Lily? Who's the Balfour Declaration

26:41

address to and why and what is

26:44

the substance of meaning of that declaration?

26:46

To give up Like you're giving a

26:48

banking family their own country which now.

26:51

Has nuclear weapons, right? And

26:53

when you see Bibi Netanyahu at Jake

26:55

A rush Hours pad or his museum

26:58

where they're looking like, here's the Balfour

27:00

Declaration. This is ah, my family created

27:02

the country that you now run. These

27:04

are all substances and pieces of every

27:06

evidence that are substantial. Have

27:09

merit. Are relevant and they

27:12

are not being weighed on the

27:14

still used by. So

27:16

maybe we shouldn't use him so often.

27:18

Such things. But.

27:20

You had mentioned that propaganda that

27:23

we see being deployed and recently

27:25

I did an episode was aftermath

27:27

the Rafale Johnson where he. He.

27:30

Made the claim using salsa

27:32

nice and using a couple

27:34

other sources that the pogroms

27:36

and Russia were. Normally

27:38

a response to revolutionary violence

27:40

that was started by people

27:42

who were predominantly of of

27:44

Jewish persuasion. I'm and we

27:47

don't need to, oh, debate

27:49

that, Hear it here nor

27:51

there. But there was. A

27:53

sighting from the St. Petersburg is that

27:56

nineteen o' three. Is.

27:58

He here the story. The window black

28:01

hundreds came to stop some violence

28:03

sale. The murders of women in

28:05

infants are numerous occasions. the rape

28:07

of underage girls, wives right in

28:10

the presence of their husbands or

28:12

parents. ones. you had his belly

28:14

ripped open and insides came out.

28:17

A Jewish woman had nails driven

28:19

into her head to her nostrils

28:21

within the same week the Western

28:23

Papers reprint said these. They unconditionally

28:26

believe the Russian press. Britain, Britain's

28:28

leading Us. Jews. Caught

28:30

the completely relied on these terrible

28:32

articles in incorporated them into their

28:34

protest slogans. So when it comes

28:36

to propaganda this is this is

28:38

nothing new. I when I saw

28:40

when I started hearing the things

28:42

that were coming out of are

28:44

coming out of Palestine this time

28:47

I immediately recognized it for what

28:49

it was because we've basically hurt

28:51

this all before and it's and.

28:53

Really Honestly, if you just told the

28:56

truth, the truth would be a nuts.

28:58

The. Truth of what happened would be

29:01

a nurse I'm but everything has

29:03

to become this embellishment and this.

29:06

I. Mean this Really

29:08

sad, sad. Victim

29:11

mentality that they inflict upon

29:13

that The Jewish elites in

29:15

eat inflict upon that the

29:17

people who aren't elite. It's.

29:21

Tragic in many, many. Ways.

29:24

Because the truth would have been

29:26

enough in any the circumstances to

29:28

adjudicate. To. Defend yourself

29:30

This but when you continuously take the truth

29:33

and then he had a whole bunch of

29:35

stuff it didn't happen and make it. Very.

29:38

Viral. and it's marketing but

29:41

lacking in it's substance and

29:43

merit people lose trust and

29:45

people start to wonder what

29:47

else has been going on

29:49

there so in the situation

29:51

of the zionists and the

29:53

bolsheviks and the taking oh

29:56

of russia and creating the

29:58

so and the milieu

30:00

of change. The Zionists

30:02

were not favorable to the

30:05

Jews of Russia who were

30:07

Bolsheviks. Why? Because to

30:09

the Zionist founders, who again

30:11

were atheist secular people with

30:13

a political agenda, to

30:16

the Zionist founders, the

30:19

Bolshevik Jews were a threat because they

30:22

didn't support Zionism, and they had no

30:24

need to move to their own nation

30:26

state because they already had their own

30:28

country with that coup. So they

30:30

weren't going to be on board with Zionism. Also,

30:32

German Jews who were not ready

30:35

to move to Palestine and start

30:37

living the life of being on

30:39

the front lines, they were also

30:41

not useful and to be discarded

30:44

by the death of Herzl and

30:46

Weizmann and Ben-Gurion

30:49

and the other founding fathers. So

30:51

these types of elements show it's

30:54

not about religion for them. They're

30:56

using religious people as political shields,

30:59

as human shields to go colonize

31:01

an area that has geopolitical strategic

31:04

military value to the Anglo-American establishment, yes,

31:06

but also fulfills a whole lot of

31:08

biblical prophecy for them. And when they

31:11

get to tie their nation state back

31:13

to the Bible and King David, I

31:16

mean that's a powerful line of

31:18

rhetoric there that you're not really allowed to

31:20

challenge in a lot of markets around the world.

31:22

You're not allowed to ask what is

31:24

the evidence of that claim, for instance, that

31:27

you use so often, right? Just like you

31:29

should be able to when Rabbi Shmueli says

31:31

they, 40 beheaded babies

31:33

and 400 women raped systematically

31:35

crushed pelvises, all this stuff. It's like,

31:37

what is the source of your claim,

31:40

sir, that you're yelling so loudly to

31:42

everybody, right? You're not allowed

31:44

to ask that in many countries around the world

31:46

right now. If you're not

31:48

allowed to ask that, it's a religion. It's

31:51

some sort of control system. It's

31:53

not something of education. You're not

31:55

dealing with logical debate. You're

31:58

dealing with people that have an intellectual property. intellectually bankrupt

32:00

position and run to violence and ad

32:02

hominem attacks instead of legit defense by

32:05

facts and just showing us here's the

32:07

facts here's what happened it

32:09

includes like if It's

32:12

a bigger frame of reference that eats the

32:14

smaller frame of reference So when schmooly says

32:16

something and there's all this evidence that shows

32:18

he's wrong You're not gonna believe

32:20

that but if you're denied access if this bigger

32:22

frame of reference is Censored

32:25

or made illegal for you to access then

32:28

you have no chance at getting back

32:30

to the reality that exists and operating

32:32

from a standpoint of non-contradictory Understanding

32:36

of that which exists and

32:39

that's not a place where you are free So

32:41

it's the has bar you referred to

32:43

it as propaganda the Israeli word for

32:46

it is has bara and these are

32:49

Explanations that help to drive

32:51

people toward the predetermined conclusions

32:53

as a for instance from

32:56

the river to the sea is not

32:58

a call for genocide of People

33:00

living in Israel from the river

33:03

to the sea is the first line of the Likud Charter

33:05

in 1977

33:08

that's the political party of BB net in

33:10

Yahoo So you can't say

33:12

it's a call for genocide and also have

33:14

it as part of your political ruling charter

33:16

You can't have it both ways bro and

33:19

too much of the world lets people have it both

33:21

ways I don't know why I

33:24

mean Kristi Noem She could probably explain why

33:26

she she has some facts and data that

33:28

I don't have access to obviously So,

33:30

you know, I'm

33:33

still being the learner. I'm curious. I'm

33:35

incredulous. I'm looking for the evidence So

33:40

another thing that Ben Shapiro will bring up

33:42

is that the fact that the the United

33:44

Nations an Organization he

33:47

normally wouldn't champion came

33:49

out with a resolution saying that Israel

33:52

is in fact a state

33:54

and that belongs to You

33:58

know these people who have gone there to settle

34:00

it. So 1948, they

34:03

start moving in and

34:05

apparently from what I've read and

34:07

from what I've heard on Twitter

34:10

is there was nobody living

34:12

there. It was a land without a people

34:15

for a people without a land. Right?

34:19

Yes, this is a common claim that

34:21

first off that slogan land without a

34:23

people for people without a land was

34:25

part of the marketing to get people

34:27

to move there. Because if you

34:29

don't think there's anyone there and you're being crushed

34:31

in Europe, then it makes sense to go there.

34:34

But what they didn't say is, hey,

34:36

let's go colonize other people's land 100

34:39

years plus. They didn't say that,

34:41

but that would have been the fact of the matter. Right?

34:43

So in this situation, people

34:46

like Mr. Shapiro are not doing

34:48

justice to the truth or to

34:50

his own people by repeating things

34:52

that are provably not true. They

34:54

will tell you there was never

34:56

a Palestine. Okay. What

34:59

are Palestinian passports? Do you ever see

35:01

those? Because those exist. Palestinian

35:03

passports, they have a government issued

35:05

by the government of Palestine. Now,

35:07

interestingly enough, well, but

35:10

those were, that was a British government.

35:12

Yeah, that was a British government. That

35:14

was a Turkish government that see these

35:16

people couldn't, they're too stupid

35:18

to be able to

35:20

rule themselves. So somebody else always

35:22

had to be in their ruling.

35:25

So Palestine wasn't something they called

35:27

it. That's what the Turks called

35:29

it. Or that's what the British

35:31

called it. Yes.

35:34

Again, so people were

35:36

living there that were not from Europe.

35:39

They didn't have to move there. They

35:41

already lived there. They already had houses.

35:43

They already owned things. And

35:45

then other people came and they said, we're

35:48

promised this land by God. And you're allowed to

35:50

believe whatever, but you're not allowed to take your

35:53

leaf and remove the freedom from other, from other

35:55

people As a means of your

35:57

belief system that is frowned upon usually throughout

35:59

history. So. This idea

36:02

that Palestine didn't exist Where their

36:04

people living there? Yes, there were.

36:06

Were they. From your know, they

36:08

were not worthy. Spore After World

36:10

War One, ever allowed to self

36:13

determine, militarize, protect themselves, formulate, borders,

36:15

hold Congress and all these other

36:17

things. They're never allowed to do

36:19

all that, and yet. Or

36:22

they citizens of Israel. Or. A

36:24

like the of their denied rights. Their

36:26

occupied people's in fact

36:28

Israel. Had. To

36:30

move in or tories like Gaza in

36:32

the West function of the worse, right?

36:35

So they were occupied an area and

36:37

then kept people slave for a long

36:39

time and then they complain a whole

36:41

lot about it. So why did you

36:43

take over those areas in the first

36:45

place? If that was going to be

36:47

such an issue, right? So there's a

36:49

long history that is. Yeah, I'm I'm

36:51

open Like I've learned the other side.

36:53

I learned the other side first, right?

36:55

I read Sandlers list before it even

36:57

became a movie. I. Went to

37:00

the Holocaust museum when I went and

37:02

lived in Dc. I've had Jewish roommates,

37:04

I've had Muslim room it so I

37:06

am an objective observer. As much as

37:09

can be in the situation is in

37:11

what is the key. The keeps his

37:13

on peace in the Middle East going

37:16

for my whole life and when you

37:18

get down to the answers of it

37:20

through the end of the he nineteenth

37:23

century going into the twentieth century you

37:25

have the of the British Empire now.

37:28

It's. Gonna go up because

37:30

it's about to assume America back

37:32

into it's colonization effort. America as

37:34

the property management expertise for his

37:36

empire from the majority of the

37:39

twentieth century. so he can sit

37:41

in the background. It can pull

37:43

strings, but America has to be

37:45

the bad guy going out to

37:48

enforce this stuff. So basically what

37:50

you have in Israel is you

37:52

have the combination of a worldwide

37:54

political empire, the British Empire with

37:56

a a worldwide dynamic. Die.

38:00

fantastic financial empire

38:03

and they had needs of military

38:05

and the military has needs of

38:07

money and the ship goes back

38:09

to Polian and Wellington, right? So

38:11

the ideas of the banking coming

38:13

together with the Empire and creating

38:15

a new colony Called

38:17

Israel and protecting that colony that

38:19

is that has the flag of

38:21

the National the Zionist from the

38:25

1897 conference right the National Zionist conference That

38:28

flag is the flag of Israel so

38:31

that project had continuity and

38:34

Came to fruition and

38:36

was orchestrated by an empire and a

38:38

banking family And I don't think it

38:40

should be so controversial Because there's so

38:42

much evidence in their own words describing

38:44

it that it just people it means

38:46

people aren't using their literacy skills and

38:49

And instead they can protect themselves by saying

38:51

that's a trope or a conspiracy theory Which

38:54

means they don't have to go read any

38:56

books Pete. How wonderful is that knowing everything

38:58

without learning anything? Oh, I

39:00

you know, so I choose

39:02

to differ with those people because I continue

39:05

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t-r-y-l-i-f-e-m-d.com. Alright, well 1948

40:35

they move in and

40:37

basically they take

40:44

over and they expel

40:46

everyone to... they

40:48

created diaspora and all these Arabs go all

40:50

over the rest of the world in the

40:52

Middle East and they get to

40:54

live peacefully and happily ever after, right? Kind

40:58

of like that. Only

41:00

from the Palestinian side they

41:03

would refer to the Nakba

41:05

catastrophe and seven

41:07

to eight hundred thousand

41:10

indigenous Arab Muslims from the area

41:13

and drives them out. And how do you

41:15

get these people to leave their homes? Well, the

41:18

Jews who came from Europe had just

41:20

experienced this. So they did just

41:22

what the Nazis did. They went through and

41:24

terrorized everybody and scared them out of town,

41:27

right? Not everything the Nazis did but some

41:29

of the beginning tactics of how to scare

41:31

people and move them around. So

41:34

starting in 1948 you've got the expulsion and the occupation

41:39

of 78% of

41:42

the land that was there, right?

41:44

So it no longer reflects a

41:46

very small Jewish population, very large

41:48

Arab population. They're gonna remove that

41:50

and move people in and they're

41:52

gonna turn it into something that

41:54

if they... Palestinians' rights to vote

41:56

they can control the whole area

41:58

in a couple decades. Which

42:00

is what they did so you can

42:02

see the growth from the original

42:04

United Nations I mean that I could

42:06

tell you how that all happened in

42:08

a minute But the United Nations Declaration

42:10

that you know recognition that Israel's a

42:12

state also ironically It was the United

42:14

Nations to whom the Nazis surrendered and

42:17

if you ever go see who created the United

42:19

Nations It's a really interesting story

42:21

because it includes some of the people who

42:23

funded the Nazis in the first place Another

42:26

thing that Ben Shapiro is not qualified to

42:28

tell you but he could sell you some

42:30

legal zoom in his spare time So when

42:32

you get back to this situation of 1948

42:34

expelling the people out of there What do

42:36

the founding fathers of Zionism say they say

42:38

these people are right to fight us? We're

42:40

taking their land our God is not their

42:42

God and this is probably going to go

42:44

on for a long time But we have

42:46

to drive them out We

42:49

have to accept these people talk in

42:51

terms of Extermination some of them are

42:54

very final solutions like right so

42:56

there's a whole lot of Drama that goes

42:58

on there on the flip side You've

43:01

got some of these Arabs in Palestine who were

43:03

fun Fond of the

43:05

tiny mustache man you have

43:07

a lot of Arab muftees

43:09

that hanged with Fascism Mussolini

43:11

Hitler, but again, these are

43:13

all top-down Wall Street and

43:15

City of London Projects

43:18

right those proxy Arab armies

43:20

were groomed by mi6 So

43:23

even if you want to say well these guys, you know

43:25

We're the bad guys and these guys had to move in

43:27

and kick them out. That's not the whole

43:29

story though, bro So taking these

43:31

little pieces of the story and

43:34

excluding the top-down pressures

43:36

and precipitation of events Is

43:39

disingenuous like you want me to believe puppets

43:41

are actually moving instead of following the strings

43:43

to the people who are moving them I'm

43:45

gonna stick with watching the people behind the

43:47

stage. You can stick with watching the people

43:49

on the stage We'll see how we

43:52

do, you know, see how things

43:54

turn out. So in this

43:56

situation the formalized expulsion ethnic

44:00

cleansing has always been

44:02

the agenda of the founding fathers. And

44:04

it has taken this time over

44:06

the past 80 years for

44:08

Western society to be so numb

44:10

to the situation that it is

44:13

unquestioning support for one side and

44:15

dehumanizing the other side to the

44:17

nth degree. They're the worst,

44:19

most vile, most atrocious people. They must

44:22

be exterminated. Right. I've heard

44:24

this story before as a forensic historian.

44:26

I've seen this story repeat several times

44:29

in history. Cambodia, 1975, the killing fields.

44:33

How do you get all these young people

44:35

to just go kill the old people? That's

44:37

a project run by David Rockefeller and Zabiny

44:39

Brzezinski. Mao killed 50 million of his own

44:41

people. David Rockefeller, so that was one of

44:43

his best projects. So when

44:45

you don't look at the people actually

44:47

puppeteering the stage or who's funding those

44:49

people, you're really doing a disservice to

44:51

your quantum computer between your ears and

44:54

you're not using it to eradicate your

44:56

fears. So

44:59

it turns out that not everybody leaves and then, you

45:01

know, other people who are in

45:04

that area and consider themselves Arabs and do not

45:06

believe in borders. They believe that the Arab people

45:08

are the Arab people. Some

45:11

of those people start flooding into Israel

45:14

and this basic, these areas, the

45:17

Gaza Strip and

45:19

the West Bank are created and

45:21

they've never made any sense to me.

45:24

If you think that these are the most dangerous

45:26

individuals to you in the world, why

45:28

would you keep them within your borders? You

45:32

know, I

45:35

hate the argument that, oh, the

45:37

Hamas breached the border to Israel.

45:39

It's like, no, they didn't. They're inside

45:41

Israel. What

45:43

is called Israel? This is just, they're trying to

45:45

make it sound like an invasion. No,

45:48

they're part of the population. They're

45:50

just a, they're second and third class citizens.

45:54

So why do you think Israel kept these people? people

46:00

in there. I'll give you my explanation. I

46:02

think because they know they're going to terrorize

46:04

these people as much as possible. These people

46:07

will fight back every once in a while

46:10

and they basically get to play the eternal

46:12

victim where they're like, oh look, you know,

46:14

we're trying to be nice to these people,

46:16

but you know, they just keep attacking us

46:18

for absolutely no reason at all. I

46:23

find that story hard to believe. So

46:26

I don't believe it and

46:28

I look for the facts behind it. Now,

46:31

Israel as a state is

46:33

in a civil war and

46:36

it holds people in apartheid

46:38

open-air prisons. This is very

46:40

well established. You go watch

46:42

the robotic machine guns and robots and drones

46:45

and high tech that they focus in on

46:47

guys in the West Bank to control those

46:49

people, to break them up, to demoralize them,

46:51

to put them into a panopticon. These are

46:54

not the things you do to free people.

46:56

These are the things you do to

46:58

slaves. Okay, and I've seen it before

47:01

in history and it's not a good

47:03

thing. The eternal victimization story does not

47:05

bear fruit when you investigate it time

47:07

and time again, even going back to

47:09

10-7. Look at the numbers they

47:11

claimed on the first day and look at the

47:14

numbers of friendly fire and Hannibal directive that

47:16

they've not really addressed killing their own people

47:19

or all the cars they have to bury

47:21

because they were burned up by hellfire missiles

47:23

from Israeli helicopters. Also inconvenient, so we did

47:26

on 9-11. You want to say Israel had

47:28

their own 9-11?

47:32

You can't have two. I think that's a

47:34

Danny Paul's shock. It was a good

47:37

comedian out there who said you can't have

47:39

two. Sorry, maybe it was Shane Gillis. I

47:41

don't know. But this idea of burying the

47:43

evidence and not having evidence for a bunch

47:45

of the egregious claims that you've used to

47:47

kill 30,000 civilians to

47:50

displace 2 million civilians and destroy

47:52

their lives. They're just making

47:54

more terrorists in the future. And there was a guy last

47:56

week who said we should have these kids 10 years ago

47:59

and they'd be fighting us. today. I show

48:02

tanks being hit by Israeli Palestinian

48:05

kids in 2001. I'm

48:07

like, these are the guys you're fighting today.

48:09

These kids you ran, because they were throwing

48:11

rocks. Those kids, if they didn't die beforehand,

48:13

they're probably in the Hamas brigade over there.

48:16

So I don't think Hamas

48:18

represents Palestinian people. I don't

48:21

think they've had much choice in the matter

48:23

of who was them, because Arafat couldn't give

48:25

them those handles. He was a

48:27

little too secular. That's why they killed

48:29

him with polonium. According to Reuters in

48:31

2014, you can find that

48:34

it's going to be on the way back machine

48:36

because they don't want you to find that article,

48:38

but it exists. And it's these pieces of evidence

48:40

that exist, but they purposefully hide from you. Why

48:42

do you think they hide them? Because

48:44

you would raise your understanding if you knew what

48:46

the game was. So they'll hide it because most

48:48

people won't take the trouble to look. Most people

48:50

won't be curious. Most people won't. Most people won't

48:53

doubt what I'm saying enough to be like, I'm

48:55

going to prove him wrong. And then find out,

48:57

Oh, you just grew a little bit. Because

49:00

that's what education is. You start out trying to

49:02

prove someone wrong and then position because they were

49:04

ahead of learning curve. That's a

49:06

recognition of intelligence right there. When you say

49:09

that's just the trope or a conspiracy

49:11

theory or your anti medic for knowing

49:13

such fact about it. That's intellectual bankruptcy.

49:16

And I'm glad you brought it up

49:18

first. So I don't have to waste

49:20

my time trying to educate someone

49:22

because I thought you were well meaning

49:24

and an honest learner, but you think

49:26

you have all the answers without even

49:28

cracking a book, let alone the street

49:30

and the document and the evidence and

49:32

weighing both sides, adjudicating all the evidence

49:34

on both sides. So it's

49:37

a lot of work. And that's why not

49:39

many people have a respectable

49:42

position where it's

49:44

not contradictory within the first couple of comments. One

49:48

of the things you said there, you used

49:51

the term once again, let's do some steel

49:53

manning here. You used the term open air

49:55

prison. And the argument will be made

49:57

that I know people from

49:59

palace. from who have emigrated

50:01

from Palestine. I Place

50:05

a community where a lot of the businesses

50:07

in Miami were owned by Palestinian Christians and

50:10

they had all moved here from Palestine if it's

50:12

an open-air prison, how were they able to emigrate

50:14

to the United States Well,

50:18

they'll let you out but they

50:20

don't let you have full rights there so

50:22

while you could live there Exist

50:25

there have food water shell you're going to be denied

50:28

The grandiose degree of Western culture because

50:30

is controls everything that goes in or

50:33

out and they've got

50:35

walls and checkpoints and drones and

50:37

surveillance And panopticon up your wazoo

50:40

just to watch Palestinians. So Even

50:44

if you can make a living

50:46

have family in these situations what

50:48

has happened? the

50:50

monopoly of force can just come bomb

50:52

that all out of existence because Hamas

50:55

took over some tunnels that Israel used to

50:57

use and built under these hospitals because it

51:00

is real bill Tunnels that

51:02

they were going to go after and by the way,

51:05

like all the things that they said back at the beginning

51:07

Let's weigh those out. Did we find a whole

51:09

bunch of awesome tunnels? No, they haven't done that

51:11

They got justification to bomb one hospital without being

51:14

a war crime. So they went ahead and bombed

51:16

40, right? The

51:18

things that they have claimed they are never

51:20

going to get to Hamas leadership. They're not

51:22

in Gaza. They're in Qatar I said that

51:24

on 10-8 you should send

51:26

your special forces Mossad people take out the

51:28

leadership and Austinian women and children out of

51:31

it The constant create concentration

51:33

camp nature of it. Let's go

51:35

back. It's not a slur It's

51:37

not anti-semitism because the British invented

51:39

concentration camps in Bowers South Africa

51:42

under the Rothschild project called Cecil

51:44

roads which turned out to be

51:46

the state of South Africa and

51:48

giving roads his own country of Rhodesia

51:51

which is now Zimbabwe Okay,

51:55

two column in objects to a

51:57

part two projects the Palestinians have

51:59

never had a fair shake and so that's

52:01

why it's there

52:35

is apparently no democracy in the

52:37

Middle East and there's definitely no

52:39

most moral and ethical army being

52:42

operated out of that democracy.

52:44

The footage that has been done

52:46

not by Hamas but by the

52:48

Zionists themselves have outed their whole

52:51

agenda of genocide ethnic cleansing and

52:53

apartheid. Let me ask you something

52:56

that you can give your opinion on. So

52:59

it was revealed that there was

53:01

a Telegram channel that was posting

53:03

all the atrocities that

53:05

were happening there. Dead kids

53:08

all I mean the worst I mean

53:10

the stuff that you it's

53:13

impossible to watch and

53:15

it was believed that

53:17

it was the Palestinians and Hamas who were

53:19

doing it and then it turns out that

53:21

it was the IDF who was doing it.

53:24

Why do you think the IDF would be posting the

53:28

atrocities and dead bodies and torn kids

53:31

to pieces and

53:34

they would want people to see that? Because

53:38

if it doesn't exist

53:40

and they need it for their agenda

53:43

they will create it and present it

53:45

as psychological warfare and it's been shown

53:47

time and time again. So what you're

53:50

talking about is first off

53:52

everything I've talked about today is covered in

53:54

depth with all the evidence you could ever

53:56

want in the past five months in every

53:58

episode of Grand Theft World every week. presenting

54:00

new exhibits of evidence disproving

54:02

the official narrative. So in

54:05

this case you're

54:08

looking at a situation where a

54:11

lot of people are making

54:14

decisions in the heated moment

54:17

and not really taking time to say this is

54:19

an important topic. Let me step back

54:21

and let me say what is all your evidence available

54:23

on both sides. Now on

54:25

the Hamas side yeah they use

54:27

some GoPros on 10-7 which

54:30

was not the starting of a war or

54:32

the breaking of a ceasefire it was a

54:34

strategic it as Israel before 10-7 held more

54:36

than 1,200 political prisoners hostage

54:41

without trial as reported

54:44

by the Associated Press August

54:46

of 2023. So Israel's

54:50

holding hostages of Palestinians

54:52

without giving them their

54:55

rights. 10-7 said we're

54:57

gonna take some hostages and put them

54:59

over here and then Israel over here

55:01

says we're gonna send some helicopter gunships

55:04

and tanks to fire on our own

55:06

people and not let Hamas steal hostages.

55:08

So many many many Israelis were murked

55:11

by their own helicopters because they were

55:13

in a vehicle headed toward the border.

55:16

Okay now let's also take into

55:18

consideration Hamas official statement only targeted

55:20

military aspect. Were they headed towards

55:22

the border or were they headed

55:25

toward the fence? That's

55:27

a good question Pete they were headed toward the

55:30

fence right and the fence

55:32

is where they had that big party

55:35

and when those helicopters came over

55:37

and saw all those people by

55:39

that fence they fired indiscriminately at

55:41

their own people and then blamed

55:43

Hamas for that for the PR

55:46

value. So the reason to answer

55:48

your question the reason that the

55:50

IDF created the 72 virgins telegram

55:52

channel was off porn site that

55:54

they would say is being done

55:56

by Hamas. The reason they did

55:58

that is because Hamas doesn't

56:01

do stuff like that. See,

56:03

Israel's narrative demands Hamas do

56:05

things that it's not doing.

56:08

Like having all these tunnel activities, right? And all

56:10

these other things that are going on. So in

56:13

the absence of Hamas actually doing that, the

56:15

IDF and the other, you know, you got,

56:20

what is it, Shinbet, you got a whole

56:22

bunch of intelligence agencies over there, and

56:24

they come up with ideas like, hey, let's

56:26

just put it out there and tell other,

56:28

you know, and a lot of people don't

56:30

scrutinize and they think that's a real thing.

56:32

We've got to back Israel. Do you see

56:34

these atrocities going on? When in fact, it's

56:36

like those are the people you're supporting that

56:39

are doing those things, right?

56:41

It's not that Palestinians are bloodthirsty people

56:43

that want to kill Israeli babies. Quite

56:45

the opposite. Like I can find a

56:48

hundred times as many Zionists saying atrocious

56:50

things about Palestinians, and I can find

56:52

a Palestinian saying about Zionists.

56:56

These people just want to be left alone. These people

56:58

won't be done until all these people are dead. That's

57:01

how it works on a historical macro scale

57:03

when you're not in one of the

57:05

religious groups participating. What

57:07

do they get out of making

57:10

enemies of basically every country

57:13

in the world, except for

57:15

the United States and probably

57:17

Britain? It

57:19

just seems that if

57:23

their goal is to be

57:25

the pariah

57:28

of the world and thus

57:30

shunned, possibly,

57:33

I mean, I've read

57:35

enough Zionist authors

57:38

and some of their philosophy to believe

57:40

that that may actually be their goal.

57:43

Their goal is to just be complete.

57:46

As long as they have the United States and

57:48

as long as they have Britain on their side,

57:50

they don't care about what the rest of the

57:53

world believes about them.

57:55

If everybody else hates them, then

57:57

that's just more victim status. There

58:01

is a line of thought in

58:04

Jewish history that we've

58:06

presented on Grand Theft World a couple weeks

58:09

ago, and it was the line of thought

58:11

that comes from the Center

58:13

for Jewish History. They had a

58:15

lecture there into the

58:18

connotation of antisemitism

58:21

as a preservative

58:24

force for both

58:26

Judaism and Zionism, conveniently enough.

58:29

So in essence, activities

58:32

that create dissent

58:35

empowers their activities. And

58:38

it's a growth system and preservative force.

58:40

These are not my words. This

58:43

is because I'm educating myself on this topic, and

58:45

I listen to lectures about people who are very

58:47

scholarly on this topic, so I could be smarter

58:49

tomorrow than I was today. And

58:51

if you're doing similarly, then you'll know

58:54

that sometimes you make mistakes along the

58:56

way, but I did not misinterpret or

58:58

take out of context that connotation that

59:01

the people that are at the top

59:03

running such organizations, like

59:05

the ADL, the ADL doesn't exist unless

59:07

there's antisemitism. The more antisemitism, the more

59:10

powerful the ADL is. ADL is just

59:12

getting rid of TikTok right now with

59:14

a couple other working

59:16

groups alongside it with similar roles. It

59:19

wasn't a problem in 2019. It wasn't

59:21

even a problem during the COVID pandemic, Pete. So

59:23

all of a sudden now, there's a problem with

59:25

TikTok, and we've got to make sure no one

59:28

sees the other side of the story. The

59:31

Generation Z, as they call it,

59:33

they watch TikTok. They're siding

59:35

with Palestine. The Israeli

59:37

propaganda meister, Elon Levy, he

59:39

is leading Generation Z is

59:41

Generation Zionist, and he's going

59:44

around and rah-rah-ing people to

59:46

get on board with an

59:48

agenda that they do not understand

59:50

and will never be honest closed to

59:52

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The French author, Guignol,

1:01:07

wrote a paper called Israel,

1:01:09

the Psychotic Nation. I

1:01:11

mean, it pulls you in. It's a good title. There

1:01:14

was one quote in it that really stuck

1:01:16

out at me. It was, it said,

1:01:19

towards the end of his life, the Jewish

1:01:21

writer, Ilya Ehrenberg, repeated that he would consider

1:01:23

himself a Jew as long

1:01:25

as there was a single anti-Semite

1:01:27

left on earth. And

1:01:31

that's not something that we can, I don't

1:01:35

know that that's something that somebody who

1:01:37

wasn't raised Jewish can even begin to

1:01:39

understand. I don't even know if it's

1:01:41

something that most Jews can

1:01:44

understand. It seems

1:01:50

that your whole life is

1:01:53

to live, your whole existence, your whole

1:01:56

identity is to live to be hated.

1:01:59

And I just. I don't get

1:02:01

that. And most you

1:02:03

assume that most people in the world are just

1:02:05

want to be left alone. And

1:02:08

then you have, but then when you look at. Elite

1:02:11

circles and people who

1:02:13

would be considered to be scholars

1:02:15

who basically become academics because

1:02:17

they want to be considered elite. That

1:02:20

they it's

1:02:22

almost like their. Their

1:02:25

existence, their history and their

1:02:27

any I'm trying to think of the

1:02:29

word and I can't get it, but how

1:02:31

they would be remembered their legacy.

1:02:35

Would be based on being

1:02:37

hated. It just doesn't it

1:02:40

doesn't make sense to me. Well,

1:02:42

part of it is. I agree.

1:02:45

It's I don't think it's supposed to make sense.

1:02:47

Pete, you know, that the center

1:02:49

for Jewish history lecture that I just cited.

1:02:52

About the preservative force, he

1:02:54

starts out with he was

1:02:57

hired the guy. His name is David Myers and he

1:02:59

was hired to write a hundred

1:03:01

page condensed history of Judaism. This

1:03:03

was his speech book. So the

1:03:05

first 17 minutes of his speech

1:03:07

are giving like the historical story

1:03:10

of how Judaism came along. And

1:03:12

after 17 minutes up,

1:03:14

he goes now, of course, up to this point, this

1:03:17

is all a historical and there's no evidence for any

1:03:19

of this. Right. It's men and then

1:03:21

all this stuff is built on top of it.

1:03:23

Right. So he even said in the official lecture,

1:03:25

like. This is a

1:03:27

story. This is a region, not history. This

1:03:30

is religion, not physics. Right. This is religion,

1:03:32

not reality class. This is the

1:03:34

story. Moses

1:03:36

is a baby in the rerow and kicked him out

1:03:38

and split the sea, like the whole thing. Right. And

1:03:40

people have the right to believe whatever they want to

1:03:42

believe. As far as hatred, I

1:03:45

think hatred is a form of ignorance as well.

1:03:47

Like anti-Semitism racism,

1:03:50

all these things are subnerrence. And it

1:03:52

means that people can be educated above

1:03:54

those areas and given experiences to balance

1:03:57

it out. But it's not something

1:03:59

you can legislate. against, you can't legislate against

1:04:01

stupidity. Otherwise, I'd vote for that shit.

1:04:04

I'm on the

1:04:07

path of that potential. We want to legislate

1:04:09

some stuff. It would be just as corrupt

1:04:11

when you don't include half of the people

1:04:14

in the conversation. So in

1:04:16

that, let's draw it back. There's no need

1:04:18

to hate. Hate is

1:04:20

just poisoning yourself. It's

1:04:24

an internal toxicant that comes from

1:04:26

misunderstanding and not

1:04:28

being willing to do the intellectual

1:04:30

work to get to experience or

1:04:33

skill or dexterity in that subject

1:04:35

area. So you can be ignorant in a

1:04:37

lot of different areas and it doesn't really threaten

1:04:40

people's existence. If you're

1:04:42

yeah, it threatens the existence of 2 million

1:04:44

people who are being innocently persecuted in

1:04:47

a situation that can be easily resolved. Just

1:04:51

give the own their own area. They have

1:04:53

their own rights. Israel will never accept the

1:04:55

two-state solution by the way.

1:04:58

And the Arabs really probably shouldn't accept one either

1:05:00

because they lived there first. They're not the people

1:05:02

who moved and colonized the land. So

1:05:04

they both have kind of legit on

1:05:07

their east side from a certain perspective.

1:05:09

But overall, these

1:05:12

things need more detail and

1:05:14

nuance to fully enter international

1:05:18

dynamics. There's also

1:05:20

the questions of why don't the surrounding

1:05:22

Arab countries take positions because they would

1:05:24

be helping Israel complete their terminating and

1:05:26

removing the opinions and that's ethnic cleansing

1:05:28

and genocide. Why would they want

1:05:30

to support that? Right? So it

1:05:33

also takes the right now

1:05:36

regardless of their intent on

1:05:38

10-7 from Hamas's side or

1:05:41

Israel's side. Here's what's happening. Gandhi

1:05:44

said if you want to end the

1:05:46

tyranny, you have to make their brutality

1:05:49

visible to the world. That's how he

1:05:51

the British out of India allegedly

1:05:53

according to the myth. Same

1:05:57

thing here. Hamas went

1:05:59

in and stung them on 10-7

1:06:01

and then has sat back and not really fought

1:06:03

back a whole lot. We have not

1:06:05

heard about thousands more Israeli civilians and

1:06:07

killed in this war. No. I

1:06:11

want to push back on you there a little bit

1:06:13

because, um, you mentioned

1:06:15

anti-Semitism, you mentioned hate. It

1:06:18

would be very easy for somebody who,

1:06:20

and I know people like this who

1:06:22

like recently who are like never gave

1:06:24

a thought to like Israel or the behavior that

1:06:29

they have towards the Palestinians

1:06:32

who since 10-7 have

1:06:34

gone down the rabbit hole. And

1:06:37

when I look at what that country

1:06:39

is doing, it's not only their leadership.

1:06:41

It's also their military.

1:06:44

It's also anybody who's operating

1:06:46

drones. It's also the people

1:06:48

who are supporting it, not only in this country,

1:06:50

but in that country as well. It

1:06:53

would be very easy for me as someone

1:06:56

who believes in freedom of association and libertarians

1:06:58

are actually supposed to believe in a freedom

1:07:00

of association to believe that

1:07:03

I don't want those people anywhere near me. I

1:07:05

don't want them in my polity. I don't want

1:07:07

them. I don't want a

1:07:09

dollar of mine to go anywhere near

1:07:12

them. And I really would like to

1:07:14

see, you know, a separation from

1:07:16

them. And I

1:07:18

don't think that that's hateful. I think

1:07:20

that that's examining a situation that is

1:07:22

in front of your eyes. All you

1:07:24

have to do is go to social

1:07:26

media and deciding, maybe I

1:07:29

don't want anything to do with this group of people. That

1:07:31

doesn't sound ignorant to me. That sounds like

1:07:33

you're examining the situation and you're like, we

1:07:35

should have nothing to do. We should cut

1:07:38

that country off and we shouldn't, we shouldn't

1:07:40

want them to come here. There's

1:07:43

a lot to it. So we can go

1:07:45

as deep

1:07:48

as you want. But when you have

1:07:50

a situation that is

1:07:52

exacerbated by inaccurate

1:07:55

information on both, for instance, when I

1:07:58

was talking about think. The

1:08:00

settlers who go from the West Bank down

1:08:02

to Gaza to block the aid coming in

1:08:04

to Gazans I don't think

1:08:07

they're doing it because they think they're evil

1:08:09

people I think they think they're good people

1:08:12

and they're defending me How are you gonna

1:08:14

fight people if you keep feeding them right

1:08:16

and there are no innocent civilians according to

1:08:19

the philosophy that they've been told So

1:08:22

they think they're doing the right thing Now

1:08:25

we have a more discerning eye and

1:08:27

capable understanding We see that and we

1:08:30

say wow that has has gone to

1:08:32

the settlers and now they're down there

1:08:34

doing the job making sure Aids not

1:08:36

being through or adding more

1:08:38

friction to the situation at least right

1:08:41

so In a lot

1:08:43

of history. It's not people who think that they

1:08:45

are doing the evil There's a small group of

1:08:48

people and they know they're evil and they're proud

1:08:50

of it, right? But for the rest of the

1:08:52

people there's a lot of well-meaning people under

1:08:55

the influence of ill information

1:08:57

And if they only knew that

1:08:59

they had similar oppressors right both

1:09:02

sides Israelis and Palestinians civilians They're

1:09:04

all being used. They're all being used

1:09:06

in the situation just like in

1:09:08

Russia Russia and Ukraine Both

1:09:11

sides are being used in that situation so

1:09:15

stepping back and saying you

1:09:19

know Who are

1:09:21

people that might? exhibit

1:09:23

qualities that are beyond

1:09:26

what The status quo is so

1:09:28

as an example a woman

1:09:30

gets her daughter killed by

1:09:33

a Palestinian suicide bomber Should

1:09:36

she spend the rest of her life

1:09:38

hating? Palestinians would

1:09:40

say yes my example would

1:09:42

be her name is Narit pellad

1:09:46

Elhanan she wrote this book Her

1:09:50

brother is Miko pellad and her dad was

1:09:52

a general in Israel during the Yom Kippur

1:09:54

War who became a peace activist and Narit

1:09:58

daughter 20 years ago was a bomber

1:10:01

from Palestine and she found

1:10:03

out that's a pretty desperate move. What are

1:10:05

we doing to Palestine? It makes people so

1:10:07

desperate that they're wanting to strap a bomb

1:10:09

and come blow up my daughter. She

1:10:11

asked these questions and she the answers. It's

1:10:14

in the state school propaganda, just

1:10:16

like we get in American schools,

1:10:18

right? Humanization of Palestine here. They're

1:10:21

treated like sheep herder, Bedouin, people from

1:10:23

the past that need to be eradicated.

1:10:26

And so she's written many books on the

1:10:28

topic. Her book, the generals is also good

1:10:30

reading on these topics because these aren't people

1:10:33

from the outside with no skin in the

1:10:35

game. These are people who have

1:10:37

fought and bled and lost. And

1:10:39

this is their rationalized logical position

1:10:41

to say, you know what? Only

1:10:44

like more Israeli children are going to die

1:10:46

because of those Palestinians. If we keep mistreating

1:10:49

the Palestinians and denying them their rights, why

1:10:51

would a Palestinian strap

1:10:54

a bomb to themselves? They

1:10:56

had this great life going on over here. They

1:10:58

wouldn't. If they had rights

1:11:00

and a job and self-esteem and self-confidence

1:11:03

and integration into society, they

1:11:05

wouldn't be strapping a bomb on, right? Or

1:11:07

setting themselves on fire. Right?

1:11:10

But the dude, Aaron Bush, no,

1:11:13

that's a sign. Like if you would quit your

1:11:15

job over something for principle, that dude has quit

1:11:17

his life over principle. I'm not saying it's a

1:11:19

good example, but I am saying it is a

1:11:21

sign. That's a canary in the coal mine moment

1:11:24

right there. And somebody is willing to

1:11:26

do that. And by the way, it was the second

1:11:29

person that added an Israeli embassy. The

1:11:31

other one was January in Atlanta and

1:11:34

didn't even get any press coverage. Can you imagine that?

1:11:36

That's a sacrifice for your protest and no one even

1:11:38

covered it. So those are

1:11:40

not signs of a healthy society when

1:11:42

that's going on. Right? Do

1:11:45

you remember all the people in the 1990s that set

1:11:47

themselves on fire? Me neither. But back

1:11:49

in the 70s, back in the 60s, like

1:11:51

these were political protests of the past. So

1:11:55

as we see things kind of getting

1:11:57

revved up for World War III, I

1:11:59

mean. Bring it over to it. Bring

1:12:01

in chai there. We got our new aircraft carry

1:12:03

over there. It's not going to just sit there

1:12:05

and play tiddlywinks. It wants to bomb some shit.

1:12:08

Maybe it's going to kick off with Egypt. Maybe

1:12:10

it's going to kick off with Lebanon, Syria, or

1:12:12

any of these places they've primed past 20 years

1:12:15

for exactly what they're trying to do right now. So

1:12:19

bringing it full circle, the state of Israel

1:12:21

has always had a plan

1:12:23

to ethnic the Palestinians slowly,

1:12:25

surely, legally over time, so that they are

1:12:27

squeaky clean and look like it was the

1:12:30

Arabs, all the irrationals that we had to

1:12:32

do something. You can't blame us. That

1:12:35

story floats until you learn all

1:12:37

these other facts. And then you

1:12:39

say, that's pretty disingenuous and

1:12:41

illegal. And so I think

1:12:44

the war crimes tribunals, even though they don't

1:12:46

have the enforcement, it

1:12:48

helps to inform the public opinion with

1:12:50

these facts. I mean, how many of

1:12:52

us have watched speeches from there and

1:12:54

heard, oh, look at this, with how they pointed out

1:12:57

here, this guy from China, how he

1:12:59

points out the situation from there. Everybody else

1:13:01

in the world, all those other countries,

1:13:03

they can see clearly, and the future,

1:13:05

can see clearly what's happening too, because

1:13:07

it shows what we do to provide

1:13:10

things outside the official. All

1:13:14

right, let's wrap up

1:13:16

with talking about season 11 of

1:13:18

autonomy. Get into

1:13:20

what you have planned, because I know

1:13:22

you have something, switch

1:13:25

it up every season. We

1:13:28

make it bigger, better, bolder, more

1:13:31

incredible every season. And right,

1:13:33

if you're looking to, you gotta step

1:13:36

lively to it, because there's already 900

1:13:38

people online that we're

1:13:40

going through to find out who the 100 are that are gonna

1:13:42

make it in for the season. So if

1:13:44

you haven't gone to Pete's, I click the

1:13:46

links, then now's the time, you can just

1:13:48

wait for fall season. There's

1:13:51

not too much opportunity costs, waiting six

1:13:53

months to get these skills in

1:13:55

your life. But what we do is for

1:13:57

12 weeks, twice a year, We

1:14:00

have adults with training, first

1:14:03

of all, to learn how to know themselves,

1:14:05

know their own, have a good map

1:14:07

of the environment that contains the pitfalls

1:14:10

and the actual things might disturb your

1:14:12

progress. We teach critical

1:14:14

thinking, creative problem solving, sales,

1:14:17

a set of problem solving, so it's

1:14:19

not pushing, persuading, convincing, or conniving. We're

1:14:21

giving people real executive skills, real life

1:14:25

skills as far as a skeleton key

1:14:27

for success, the interview skill, the Swiss

1:14:29

Army Knife for Life, the how

1:14:31

to know anything, learn anything skill, and you put

1:14:34

those two things together and now you're a force

1:14:36

to be reckoned with on the playing field. Heretofore

1:14:38

you do not have the ability to take advantage

1:14:41

or even see some of these opportunities. Now with

1:14:43

the skill set and the competence and confidence that

1:14:45

comes with working out with a community of

1:14:47

people doing likewise for 12 weeks, now you're

1:14:49

set to turbo boost

1:14:51

your productivity to attain your goals

1:14:54

with more systematic

1:14:56

outcomes. You know, outcomes happening more and

1:14:58

more often. You're using a method and

1:15:00

you're cranking a widget. Every time

1:15:02

you want to do something, there's a certain number of things that

1:15:04

need to be done to get it done and you learn that

1:15:06

within yourself and you learn how to keep repeating it. I'll

1:15:09

be back each season because it's lifetime and so

1:15:11

once you go through once, you can't suck up

1:15:13

all the wisdom of course. Most people tend to,

1:15:15

as they continue to improve themselves, continue to go

1:15:18

through the course and to learn about

1:15:21

life on a higher level. That's

1:15:23

where things get fun by leveling up. There's something you want

1:15:25

to do. You don't know how to do it. Now let's

1:15:27

go learn the things and meet the people that we need

1:15:29

to know and learn

1:15:32

to do that thing. Along

1:15:34

the way, you get some experience and that raises your

1:15:36

confidence in your confidence. These

1:15:38

are the most worthwhile hours outside of

1:15:40

my family time that I can offer

1:15:42

to the world. Being

1:15:45

adults, how to be better adults and

1:15:48

knowing that for them, it's about learning how

1:15:50

to show up for themselves, not quit on

1:15:52

themselves, learning how to ask when

1:15:54

you need and how to ask the people that actually

1:15:56

have the resources to help you. There's a couple different

1:15:58

communication aspects. some critical thinking aspects.

1:16:01

There's the removal of fear and scarcity mentality

1:16:03

aspects. What it delivers is a, it's like

1:16:05

a souped up you. Like you've been to

1:16:07

the garage, you've got all these upgraded parts

1:16:10

and now you're ready for the racetrack and

1:16:12

not just be a spectator in life. Sorry

1:16:14

about the rating metaphor. I mixed all the

1:16:16

metaphors live and that's what came out. Like

1:16:23

considering what we're looking at coming

1:16:25

up with the entitlement

1:16:27

trap and the fact that

1:16:30

this economy is

1:16:33

pretty much headed full

1:16:35

steam. Getting, figuring

1:16:37

out and learning how to

1:16:39

get yourself ready for that

1:16:42

so that you can get through it

1:16:44

is probably more important than anything at

1:16:47

this point. So that's one of the things

1:16:49

that I learned from season one. And

1:16:52

yeah, I

1:16:54

can't stress enough how great

1:16:56

it is. freemanbeonthewall.com/autonomy. There's a

1:16:58

link there and you get

1:17:01

the introduction videos

1:17:04

and it'll get you on your way. So head

1:17:06

on over to my website, check that out. And

1:17:10

Richard, thank you as

1:17:12

always. Any closing words? Yeah,

1:17:15

I was gonna say thank you so much for

1:17:19

priming me with these comments because it's a good

1:17:21

thought process to go through. It's a good exercise

1:17:23

to be able to explain step by step how

1:17:26

you come to an understanding, a conclusion, a judgment,

1:17:28

a choice, and to share

1:17:30

that with other people so they can do likewise. And

1:17:32

I can also learn how to improve the process. If

1:17:35

I don't share my process of how I, then

1:17:38

I don't get a chance to improve it. And

1:17:40

again, it's about how to think, not

1:17:42

what to think. Like I only think that's up to

1:17:45

you. I mean, how to think, this

1:17:47

is something we can all learn how to do

1:17:49

better. So thank you for the opportunity. And again,

1:17:52

I apologize for the tech issues, delay I've

1:17:54

ever had in an interview. And

1:17:56

I'm proud of both of us for not quitting because

1:17:58

of the tech issues. Well,

1:18:03

it just makes editing a little

1:18:06

harder, but we can deal with it. If

1:18:09

that's the worst thing that will happen today, I think

1:18:12

we'll both be fine. I

1:18:14

think so too, man. Thanks. Thank you,

1:18:16

Richard.