The eighth episode of "The Picture" podcast features a conversation between artist Tom Sachs and "New Yorker" staff writer Naomi Fry, recorded on a rainy Friday evening over mezcal at Sachs' studio in New York. The two friends spoke on the occasion of the new exhibition "Tom Sachs: Handmade Paintings" at Acquavella Galleries in New York.

Although painting has long been a focus of his practice, this exhibition of conspicuously handmade work is the first to focus exclusively on Sachs' paintings. With an introduction from gallery director Philippe de Montebello, Tom and Naomi's conversation touches on Sachs’ love for the Simpsons, his early years re-creating Mondrian paintings with duct tape, and why, according to Sachs, "Creativity is the enemy."

"Tom Sachs: Handmade Paintings" is on view November 5–December 18, 2020, at Acquavella Galleries.

—Tom Sachs"Krusty O's" (2019)Synthetic polymer on canvas72 x 72 inches (152.4 x 182.9 cm)

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