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What's up, everybody, it's your boy, sat Tanemoss.
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Welcome to the Players Club.
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I got my partner in crime here with me, Fred
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the mouth of the south most step Forred.
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You know what man, I mean.
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You've only talked about this dude all
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year long, So I'm gonna let you introduce.
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I guess as you know, I'm gonna introduce in the ncuba's
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a top man in pig sixes,
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best thief coming from Mississippi State.
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I give him a step above, step
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above me, mister Emmanual
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bubes Man.
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How you doing, brother? How you doing? Brother?
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I'm good now, We're good were good man,
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We good man. We want to welcome you to the show Man. I
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mean, you know, I know it's late in the year, and especially
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around the holiday time. You got a lot of stuff going
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on, a lot of stuff on your plate.
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Friends.
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Holiday some time with us, we normally
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start to show off with action about
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or talking about your top three. So I'm gonna
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I want to know, and I know it's kind of time stamp,
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but I know you you a historian when it comes
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to the league and stuff like that. If
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you had to say your top three DB's
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of all time, who are
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they? Don't have to be in no order, but
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who are they?
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Oh?
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You got to den Saner s all
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right, we got that in common. Uh
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golly, that's
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a tough question. I ain't even thought about that. Probably
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my dog jaylen ramsay up there
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there.
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But see that's time sham, It's Timestep
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and it's his top three. You know what I mean.
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Listen, I understand I'm losing my notes.
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God, I don't think I have a number three, to be honest.
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So what about this other guys that you've heard
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of or probably was told
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or seen highlights of yeah from before
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the time of you really playing close attention to the game,
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the.
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Champ Bailey's of the world.
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I wasna say Champ Badley, he was a ball hall. Yeah,
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he'll probably be my number three.
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Okay, who you like? Fred?
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He ain't got like I don't know because I'm kind
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of like twisted in mind. I don't think I can say
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three because then it'll look like I'm being
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a homer if i say three.
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So I'm gonna have to go four.
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We all got the goat at the top,
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Deon Sanders, and we all
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know why we all like him. He changed the conerback
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position. He is the conerback
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position. He personified it, and we
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all d on nights right now because
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of him.
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All right.
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Then I also played against, I mean
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played with Darryl Green. All
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right, you gotta understand to play this, to play this
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position.
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For twenty years.
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I got to sit in the meeting rooms
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with him.
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I got to learn from.
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And the first thing Den told me when I
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got he say, I know you're gonna try to learn from all
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of us, but you know what Dalre Green on
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the.
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Person could theare agree?
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So that being everybody not running the
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four two four, one forty, so it was kind
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of.
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Different with him.
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Then I also played with Champ Bailey, so
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it's this thing that hit them three yellow
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jackets right there. So imagine
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me in this this this meeting room, and I'm looking
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around like why y'all drove me? What's
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really going on? But I cannot have
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a top three And I know this is my fourth
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guy, but no order. Charles Woodson
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man and I just got to be honest.
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Man, he won the Hires mean ain't
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nobody won the Heisman on defenses.
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He won to Hires mean ball hawk showed
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that he can go on the.
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Other side, play wide, receive very
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d unlike I have to go Charles
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Woodson.
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I thought it was great, So I cannot do three.
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I have to do four. What you think about the list is
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I love both lists.
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I think when he's talking about to some of this
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new generation, it's hard to ask
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them that question because it's just so many other
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guys. But that's one of the reasons why we want
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to hear your top you know what I mean? So I was
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cool with whoever he said. He could have said Joe
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blow and you know that woe thirty four.
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With you as a wide receiver.
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Though you're going against his group,
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you're going against my group.
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Your group.
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I don't even see.
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What I'm saying. I don't get me wrong, But he called
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Dionne who else you's called out?
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Jen? Don't get Jayalen to me is a different style
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of cornerback when it comes to risk.
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I fare out well against the physical guys because
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they don't want to run with me. They want to beat you up at the line
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of scrimmage. So I know I could be quick, you know
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what I mean, you know, get off the line of scrimmage with
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those guys. And then he talked about
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you know Champ. I played against Champ. Champ
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was a tough you know, tough guy to go up against because
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he was fast.
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Like you, you know what I mean.
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He was loan, you know, he MIDI and you a little
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bit might be a little you know, have a little more weight. But he
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very rangey when it comes to his and I think it's Howdamp
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was it.
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Wide out yea, Champ played wide out running
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back at Georgia, also played wide
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out in the league. So we got a couple of
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guys on that that kind of crossed the ball, so we
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got three of them, Childs, Woodson, and
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Champ.
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I played when we scrimmershed
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against Dean when he was with the Ravens. I didn't get
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a chance to go up against Yeah, you know what I mean. But
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I watched them from afar, just you know some of some
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of our other guys that went up against him, and he
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wasn't prime, you know, from the years
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that we watched him growing up.
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If the toe had went on and I'm.
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A big I was a big Florida State guy that because
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of him, I ain't want to do that till
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my childhood childhood.
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So you know that's why I failed the way I felt about
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Florida State.
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They didn't recruit me because why because
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you know, French moved university. So
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then about to play against all
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Florida team in a certain way
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after they did that, Now everybody had
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their dream school, you know that.
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Yeah, but you didn't want to smoke from Miami, So yeah,
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you can say with you, I.
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Wanted all the smoke most
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definitely. Hey, well, we're gonna keep getting to
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know you more about you man. In this next setting, it's
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of the Washington Commanders. While in Mississippi
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State you set the records for the most picked six in
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history. So obviously you broke all my
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records. That hurt a little bit. So
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what doude does it mean to you to be like
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stamped into the permanent
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history of Mississippi State University?
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You know I grew up from Mississippi. Yeah, and then
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you know, like left
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like fifty minutes from Mississippi State. You still watch
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their games all the time, so it like it means a lot,
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honestly knowing that my name is a top of the book
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in the record.
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My son coming to get that record. So
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let me ask you this, did jail get recruited
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by Old Miss? Because I know they recruited
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me Hall, how you feel about that? What made you
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choose Mississippi State over Old Miss?
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So it's crazy. It's like my god parents, like
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they used to take me to all the altar games since I
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was the youngest, like young. So it's like
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I kind of got Old Oxford, like I
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grew out of Austin, you know how Oxford? Yeah, and
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I went to Missisispi State and I was like, yeah, this is for me.
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This is new.
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Yeah, it wasn't because we was known for defensive
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backs, because you know, one thing about it is,
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oh missus the wide receiver was cool and
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we the defensive back D line school.
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So it ain't had nothing to do with that because you was
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wide out though, right, Yeah I was.
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I was they had something to do with defense because I know
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I was gonna play defensive college and I was like old miss
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you know, they defense not that very
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talented at that time. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I'm
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gonna go to State. They got a lot of guys. It's
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one camp Danceler just left. They still had
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Martin Emerson. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna join that group.
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You know, Fred talked so much about Mississippi
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State football or Mississippi football period,
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but Mississippi State is something that you know,
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a guy from Miami don't kind of we.
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Won't know about y'all, you know what I mean, we don't.
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We don't look up out that way and say who are
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these guys? But then when you really watch a
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lot of guys come from out of there, Yeah, what
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was it like when you was there?
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Who was the who's the guys?
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Who's the guys that you was looking at a young Ford
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saying, I want to all of these guy footsteps.
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Brother, he played defensive back, corner whatever it
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may have been. Offensive guy. Who was the guys
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there then when you first came in.
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At Mississippi State. Yeah, I'll probably
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say definitely Cam Danseler.
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When I was getting recruited in high school, he was still there.
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That's when Cam was really good at
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that corner and they just had a really
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good defense a Mississippi State. That's when they had Jeffrey
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Simmons. My test, okay test
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was there too.
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Did you play with tests in college?
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No? I didn't play with Okay because offense.
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I thought I kind of thought he was a little black like
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I used to go on like visit and stuff.
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That's when he was still there.
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So yeah, got you, got you?
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I got you.
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Did anybody try to give you dual
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scholarship because you was a baseball player too?
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So some most of my scholarship football
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and baseball, and a lot of my officials.
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You ain't think about that football. You didn't think about that baseball
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scholarship.
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Like man, I could be why not even because
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baseball team then they win the national championship
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while you was there.
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Yeah, Like, did you not try to play both
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sports?
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Because I tried to do it with basketball and
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got some practices in and rode the bench on a couple
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of games.
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Boy swear he was a basketball Listen,
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I ain't seen it yet.
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I've been around him since we was what.
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Eighteen years old. I ain't see him dribble the ball
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yet.
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I kind of had the same same injury I got.
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Now, I had that in high school, all right, supposed
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to have Tommy John surgery I had.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, And so this is why you stayed away from the baseball.
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But did you go to the games while you?
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Like, we didn't know?
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The dude is always rocking, So I have to go down.
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Yeah, you're the name of the stadium.
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Have you got in the next game? The next game?
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Yeah, I got to it. The stadium
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is great. You're going to enjoy it.
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Well, the things you did at Mississippi State led
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you to that draft day. I'm
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gonna ask you a couple of questions dealing with the
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draft. One, I want to ask you what
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was that night like? And then to that
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transition from you know,
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Mississippi here to the DMB.
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How has the transition being since then?
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I would say the transitioning good. You know, it's
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a big difference living by yourself in a city
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that you don't know really, so I'll probably
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say that's the biggest thing. But the draft night, I
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would say it was stressful, like
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emotions all over the place, you know, saying
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one corner get taken off the board at five and
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like having no other corner get picked. You don't
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really know, So it was a little
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stressful both. When I got that call, I knew exactly
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who was.
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Did you go into the draft anticipating
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the number, like like saying I want to
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do I want to I want to be gone right here like
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that.
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If it's not here, I want to in
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thirty five.
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So yeah, offense say it. So I knew I was going to be
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gone between between ten and twenty
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two. Between there, yeah,
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I knew I was.
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That's pressure, man. I wasn't putting that pressure
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on.
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I would just like, I'm gonna let it play out
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whatever happens happening.
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Yeah, I couldn't. Boy talking about sitting there looking at the numbers,
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I'd have been able to count.
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The first thing you said, with you being in this new city
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and being a loan now you're not used
10:55
to being alone because you got a lot of
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brothers and sisters and you are the
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youngest. Tell us how much how
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hard it was, how to fight for space
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in your house with ten, right.
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Ten brothers and it's ten of us total, and
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you the baby, I'm the second youngest.
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Second take us through that.
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Uh, you know, having
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older brothers, you know, it's tough.
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It's rough, it's wrong, it's real rough.
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And they was definitely tough on
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me and made me work for everything
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I had to get.
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Honestly, did you have to eat lass at the table?
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Did they did?
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Did they make it hard to fight for cover?
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Luckily my mom made me eat first, so
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she helped me with that. But besides everything
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else, when she wasn't at home and my brother's
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number, watch me, Laurid was it was?
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It was tough.
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What's been your most rewarding moment
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Yeah, I would probably say both. I got two. Both
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of them's in college. Definitely. When I
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broke the record for the pick six, yeah
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versus Tennessee State, that was probably.
14:33
Going into the game when you when you keeping
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up with it, was it in the back of your head?
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All I need is one more?
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Or yeah, of course that I like, We're
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going against the East Tennessee State, so I know I'm
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gonna play that loan. Yes, like I gotta go and get
14:46
it out the way, try to get it. Yeah, so I
14:48
got it and want to score. And I was
14:50
a big moment. So yeah, And I would probably
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say the sacond this when we won egg Bowl
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last year.
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Yeah, they caught the egg Bowl, Yes, the egg Belt.
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Who y'all played the game?
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Oh?
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Miss how was it? So it's because
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the Mississippi.
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Mississippi Rivalry SEC Rivalry
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and me and I told you, I've been playing on Thanksgiving my
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whole life.
15:07
We always play them on Thanksgiving.
15:09
So then I went from NIT rivalry to
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the Cowboys in Washington rivaly,
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which was also on Thanksgiving.
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That's unique. So tell me this. When you was on that
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that run or that terror like just picked
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six out to pick six, was it
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like you was just in a zone or was it like
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something that you thought about.
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Oh, you know, I visualized that me catching
15:28
a pick six like every game, that's something I always
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do. I used to tell myself, if I pick
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at I'm not going to get table. I gotta go
15:35
score with that.
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Got you?
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Yeah, So did you on
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the way there, Let's just say, right before
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the last one, did you have any drops
15:43
in there? Because it's always like when
15:45
were trying to get something, when we get to a destination,
15:48
we remember that one, like I could have did it two
15:50
games ago, but I dropped this ball.
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I've dropped quite amount
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and most of them came my sophomore year. Yeah,
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And I was like, God, like, if.
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I if I call those, I would have
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really blew the number out, really had like
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eight.
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Seven, like yeah, out of six. So I was like, yeah,
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I should have just took advantage of the opportunities.
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Okay, well, I'm pretty sure it be plenty more
16:13
days and plenty more of those memories because
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you're gonna have a long career. So let's put that in the
16:18
era, you know what I mean. But it's gonna lead
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us into this next segment where we're gonna talk all
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and man, like you're
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mind. Yeah, something at you and you're gonna
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kind of, you know, respond the way you feel. All
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right, My favorite one, my first one,
16:53
would be your favorite sec
16:55
rival. You
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know, I couldn't even I.
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Couldn't this with do
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questing right there, I'm running the right
17:05
corner right now.
17:06
You got him on the left corner. And they don't know you play
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some dB.
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They don't know.
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Man, I'll be a little rover right now.
17:12
Put me so old miss and
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what Mississippi State? So what about you?
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I know, come on now, well.
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You know, when it comes to me, I didn't have a favorite.
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But the only favorite that Miami will
17:22
say is Florida State, you know what I mean? Like that
17:25
was the rifle I got up for, but it wasn't
17:27
like my favorite rider.
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So why y'all don't feel that way about Florida? You
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don't.
17:30
We don't get to play them every year. Florida. I
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guess Florida and Miami had a little thing back
17:34
in the day. And you know, we know Maddie want our
17:36
producers she's a she's
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Florida girl. I gotta show some
17:42
love. But now we when I came
17:44
to the University of Miami, we heard
17:47
the thing about Florida State and Florida.
17:50
So we always wanted to be the state champs.
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You know, that's everybody's dream in Florida, like
17:54
if we want to be the state champ. And it didn't
17:56
always you know, come out of the way we wanted
17:58
to because Florida State was dominant.
18:00
But Florida they just ain't want none of us.
18:02
And then when it came time when they didn't let
18:04
us go to the national championship, we had
18:06
to play Florida just to have a chance to
18:08
shut up national championship with Florida State.
18:10
So you know we pounced on them. Well.
18:11
We also hated Alabama too. See when I was in
18:13
school, Alabama feared us. I
18:16
didn't lose to Alabama for one time. Hey
18:18
listen, we beat.
18:19
Them up and down.
18:21
All right, we're gonna get
18:23
this from the Fred favorite
18:25
receiver to go one on one with Fred.
18:28
You first and.
18:30
Played against so many we went over all the receivers.
18:32
I played again, a lot of yellow jackets
18:34
in there. The t o's of the world,
18:36
the random mosses of the world.
18:38
Who's your favorite one on one though? Probably
18:42
the one, probably the one that talked the most trads
18:44
with Chad, It's Chad Johnson.
18:46
Me and Chad had battles, No, lie,
18:48
this happened when we was coming out of school. Because
18:50
you ain't play in the Senior Bowl. Me and Chad
18:52
went played in the CIA Bowl. But we were playing. I was playing
18:55
for the South, he was playing for the North. He
18:57
dominating everybody at practice. They
18:59
come get he from the South practice to
19:01
go one on one with him two days in
19:03
a row, and we just battled one
19:06
after one after one. So I would most
19:08
definitely say Chad Johnson and
19:10
what I really like about him, not only here great athlete.
19:13
We did this at a high level.
19:15
So I enjoyed the robber. It was a Jouston
19:17
Max.
19:18
Okay, So who would be your one on one
19:20
guy that you want to go up or you went against?
19:22
Yeah?
19:23
Uh, you know.
19:24
At first the beginning to see is that was de Mont smil.
19:26
Okay, Yeah, slim reaper, verse, slim repel.
19:28
Now I got to change down a brown. Now
19:31
he won it this year.
19:32
But that's that the
19:35
approach you take because I listen
19:37
as much as I done got on receivers, they done got
19:39
me too.
19:40
That's part of the job. It happens,
19:43
you know what I think about, you know.
19:44
And I want to cut in with that because I watched
19:46
that battle and it's
19:49
one of those things when you're a rookie. Ye're a rookie.
19:51
You can see it no matter who you are. Yeah, because
19:53
we all got to be brought back down to earth for a
19:55
little bit. But I'm not saying that that what was
19:57
done to you because I understand defense. I
20:00
understand their situations where
20:02
at times you you was right there. You know what I
20:04
mean, It was right there. So I
20:07
would love to see you in that one on one and
20:09
where you can play your style of play. But when
20:11
you're playing in a defense where you
20:14
need to be protected in a certain way, I
20:16
don't like when I'm in a situation and I know someone's
20:18
got to have my back, yeah, and then I'm the one that hung
20:20
out to drive, you.
20:21
Know, life of a dB.
20:23
And that's why when we give up a touchdown
20:25
and we come to the bench and sit down, nobody
20:27
sit besides us.
20:29
We take that alone.
20:30
And didn't camera be right in your face? You
20:32
know what they said. So it's a hard
20:34
life for us.
20:35
Yeah.
20:35
So I would say I'm glad you said
20:37
that because that means this off season you're gonna have that
20:39
picture on the wall. Yes, and every
20:41
time you go out there and do some drills, you're gonna have that
20:43
in mind.
20:45
Steve Smith, Oh yeah, we
20:47
had them days.
20:48
Okay, next question, who's
20:50
the goat of the NFL in the defensive
20:53
backs?
20:53
Start with you first, the goat, greatest
20:56
of all time.
20:58
I'm gonna get phone calls.
20:59
Yeah, after this one, I'll probably
21:02
say mine els.
21:03
Daryl Green, George Derrek Green.
21:04
Yeah, outside livers press running for two,
21:07
you can't beat it.
21:09
I like that way to be a company man. But
21:14
also dum played for this team.
21:16
Yeah, don't get it twisted. I'm going
21:18
with the I have to d
21:21
Green.
21:23
So ye say, it's
21:25
no wrong answer with that. I never got a chance
21:27
to play against Daryl Green, and I never got a chance
21:29
to see you know, prime close
21:32
up on the football field, not on
21:34
the practice field, on the between the lines.
21:36
Yeah, but it was a great answers.
21:37
I mean when you look at what Daryl Green did
21:40
to play twenty years, to me, I feel like that
21:42
that speaks for itself.
21:43
And do you believe this at the twentieth
21:45
year he was still the fastest person.
21:47
Well I heard this at fifty some years old. He ran a FO
21:49
two, so he.
21:50
Probably running for two rights in the neighborhood
21:52
right now.
21:54
So you said, d okay, Next question, favorite
21:57
restaurant in Mississippi. I
22:00
want to hear this one, not
22:03
No Sizzlers Eve and I'm talking about No Sisters.
22:05
I was forget that Sizzlings Love Baby.
22:08
That's a good question. That's a good
22:10
question us on the Mississippi.
22:14
I'll probably say my favorite is KFC.
22:16
Hmm, that's my Favorite's a simple
22:19
man.
22:21
Do y'all not remember Punda Rosa?
22:23
Yeah?
22:23
I remember we had because it was kind of carefully
22:26
tear your stuff, had ice cream. I couldn't
22:28
wait to get to go there.
22:29
All you can get, listen, all you can eat.
22:32
When we ain't pundar Roasa, that means the family ball
22:34
and I don't know what happened.
22:35
To me on Sunday at the church.
22:39
Yeah, so pund
22:42
A Sizzler.
22:42
I got to always get sit and it ain't many of these
22:44
restaurants open, so that kind
22:46
of show our aid.
22:47
So we was We was in LA this past
22:50
all weekend and I remember we
22:52
was driving. I don't know where we was at me and be
22:54
mistress in the car again, I'm like, it's a sizzler
22:56
still open out here.
22:57
I would have stopped, whipped over some wrongs.
23:00
I need something out of there.
23:01
It was the spot man. So next question,
23:04
the favorite egg Bowl memory. We just
23:06
talked about egg Bowl. The favorite egg Bowl memory
23:08
was starting with you, Oh yeah, I got
23:11
some.
23:11
Uh, definitely my junior year
23:13
this past year. So
23:16
we was winning right and we had
23:18
the ball in the one yard line and the quarterback,
23:20
our quarterback fumble it. It's like two minutes
23:22
ago. So they drive the ball down all the way to score.
23:24
They down by two, and I'll
23:27
probably say when my d lineman knocked
23:29
the ball down on two point two point
23:31
convergion and we won the game. Oh man,
23:34
you know we had to run to the student section let them know
23:36
because they talked.
23:37
It's like talking to that student section.
23:39
Boy. Well mine they gave me.
23:41
Mine was a little different. Douce
23:44
McCallister, he's the tail
23:46
back. They motioned him out, old
23:49
me to the corner. Yeah, old miss motioned them out. So
23:51
now they motioned them out to my corner, so I had to move
23:53
out and they tried to run a fade.
23:55
Route with him.
23:56
I one hand the ball before Oldell.
24:02
Were down.
24:04
We're down by thirteen points with two
24:07
minutes left. At one hand the pass,
24:09
we go down.
24:10
We score.
24:11
Then the next play we had the famous
24:13
kick six where the other cornerback
24:16
on the other side, Robert Bean knocks
24:18
the ball, kicks it to my other homeboy.
24:20
He catches it, runs it back.
24:22
We kicked the field goal. We win the game by
24:24
one point. Ultimate egg Bowl.
24:27
Right there, that's a good one. I mean, that's a good way
24:29
to the end one right there. Yeah, yeah, all right, So it's
24:31
gonna be one of the I'm down in
24:33
here this one. Who had the better
24:35
era at State?
24:37
Well, let me give you,
24:40
let me give give an eye credentials.
24:43
Four years in a row, Number one on defense,
24:45
went to the Cotton Bowl, went to the SEC
24:48
Championship, lost
24:52
I think nine games in forty years.
24:55
I'm sorry. The golden years have
24:57
to be the French smooth era. What
25:02
you got to say about that?
25:03
For I'll probably say, you know, I
25:05
got the college in twenty twenty COVID year
25:07
had all SEC schedule.
25:09
Uh huh all SEC
25:11
schedule that year.
25:12
Yeah, no, I ain't playing nobody else, nobody else
25:15
lord that Yeah.
25:16
Yeah.
25:16
My sophomore year, you know, went nine
25:19
and nine three ninety four.
25:22
Yeah, I don't know. That's
25:24
pretty tall. So won ten
25:26
games last year, so I don't know.
25:28
You won ten games.
25:29
We went to the We end up playing in the Cotton
25:31
Bowl after the SEC.
25:33
Ricky Williams, he did run for
25:35
like two hundred yards on Angel Listen.
25:38
Ricky ran a lot of people. Ricky
25:41
ran a lot of.
25:42
People probably said they did. They made it to the CEA
25:44
champions They didn't win, But.
25:45
I think I think the only people they'll try to say
25:48
that they era was better than ours to be the deck
25:50
Prens Scott area because they was number one
25:52
in the nation at the time, trying
25:54
to play for a national championship. Him Fletcher
25:56
Cox. They had some dogs, Princeville Smith most.
25:59
Definitely you are you know where Fred
26:01
asked that question. So that's right,
26:08
don't worry.
26:08
We got more questions and more
26:10
good stuff coming back. More man with fobs
26:13
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27:06
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27:34
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27:35
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You like, I'm just not gonna drop this ball.
27:38
That was the first out look, I gotta catch you, gotta
27:40
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27:42
I was like, wow, cause you got
27:44
running room right there, got out of running
27:46
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27:46
You was thinking pick six here you go.
27:48
My mind was thinking pick a six mile
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It happens to the best episode. Great
27:54
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27:55
Hey, now this next play PBu against
27:57
New England, third and four.
27:59
You break this one up, talk a little bit about it.
28:02
So I knew they was gonna try to come at me. That
28:04
was my first game back. Yeah, so I knew
28:06
that was coming at me. And they run a lot of inbreaking
28:09
routes with the wide split.
28:10
Yeap.
28:10
So I was just dining, pressing, anticipating
28:13
slant the whole way.
28:14
And you was used to playing against Matt Jones, didn't play
28:16
against me in college.
28:18
Yeah, yep, yep, most definitely.
28:20
All Right, now, this one right here, this
28:22
is the one that made you e mortal in college,
28:25
right here, seeking in tim Missipi State.
28:27
Take us right here, take us down through it.
28:29
We look at him, that's right there, that's
28:31
him, spin cycle, that's him.
28:33
Right Yeah, what
28:35
are you think of? Right? Now, just don't trip it fall,
28:38
don't get caught.
28:39
I do not get caught.
28:42
Most definitely, Fred
28:44
granted him up for us. Man.
28:46
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28:57
why you do so? I like to ask
28:59
you, man, what snakes for Forbes? So what's
29:01
you know, what's gonna look like these next three weeks
29:03
for you man?
29:04
Oh, you know, just staying healthy,
29:06
honestly, protecting myself and making
29:09
plays on the ball. That's the goal. Just keep continue
29:11
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Welcome back to the players Club that you woayit to
30:32
the Now I'm here with the Mouth of the South. We're
30:35
gonna show what you are holiday traditions
30:38
and chop it up a little bit about this week's
30:40
matchup against the Jets. Fred.
30:42
Yeah, what are some of the traditions that you
30:45
do around the holiday time.
30:46
See, we got two Santa Claus names,
30:49
and we earned those names.
30:50
Mind being smoother Claus.
30:52
Ye, Well, it started when I was very
30:54
young, when I was playing and I used to
30:56
I used to get a couple of people to find needy families
30:58
for me, and I would get
31:01
the information how many kids, how many people
31:03
in the house, and I would also go buy
31:05
them all the toys, all the new technology.
31:08
But I would also work with the soul food
31:10
cafe Henry's and I get them to
31:12
cater them to dinner also because I always thought
31:14
people forgot about that. Now
31:16
kids can't eat toys, but I know they can play
31:18
with them, So it kind of put
31:20
the smoother Claus on. And then
31:22
I extended it by working with the
31:25
team and every year when they give away the
31:27
toy drive, I dress up in Santa Claus,
31:29
really a keto Santa Claus because
31:31
I'm skinny. And I got there and
31:33
I just said, because
31:36
one child said came to me.
31:38
The other day, it was like, Santa, why you so skinny?
31:41
I said, I ran from the north part, So
31:46
tell us, how did you get Santana
31:48
Claud.
31:49
Well, you know my Santana Claus thing
31:51
came my first year here. That's one of the things
31:53
about all my nicknames. Uh. You
31:55
know when I got tanner Man, it was when I was in
31:57
college. Someone gave me that Drin James
32:00
Folks back in I Mockley started calling
32:02
me tene Man off of me making a couple of plays.
32:05
You know, most Man was given to me by family.
32:07
Ten was given to me by my mom. I get
32:10
here and they give me sant Tana
32:12
Claus and I'm like, you know, it
32:14
was I guess it fit the moment, but
32:16
we hadn't even played the game yet. It was just it
32:19
was Christmas Eve, and I'm like, who
32:21
would have known that this is my favorite holiday? Who would
32:23
have known that this particular Christmas Eve, which
32:25
was in two thousand and five, I was just feeling
32:27
on one walking into that stadium. I had my family
32:30
up, I was finning
32:32
give bout some gifts and it
32:34
wasn't gonna be what they was expecting, you know, But
32:37
I mean that's how I got that. But if you're talking
32:39
about real traditions, some of the things
32:41
that I think I kind of wanted
32:44
to do once I got a chance to be able to do
32:46
it, It's one just be there
32:48
for my family, you know, Honestly, man, this
32:50
is my favorite holiday.
32:52
I remember growing up.
32:53
My mom them even when we didn't
32:55
have it during the year, they made a
32:57
way for us to have it around Christmas time.
32:59
If it was anything we wanted during the year, you
33:02
know, we knew that come Christmas we might
33:04
have it. And so one of my
33:06
traditions is just always to make sure I
33:08
gave to the people in my family that I knew
33:10
that couldn't just do it for themselves.
33:12
And I'm a giver.
33:14
I was a born giver, and
33:17
it's just something I look forward to around the holidays.
33:19
I remember I got to the point where I
33:21
was given a little too much because don't
33:24
you get the family. I'm saying, well, yeah, last
33:26
year gave you gave him an Xbox.
33:28
This year you want a PS five.
33:31
I'm like, man, I ain't got no PS five
33:33
money. So I'm like, gave your xbox.
33:35
Now you want PS five. So but uh, you
33:37
know, but I'm still there. I'm one of those guys
33:39
if it's one hundred dollars, you know, on
33:41
a cash shop. You know, even my nephews
33:43
and nieces now, like sometimes they don't even ask me.
33:45
I just sent a hundred and they're like, oh
33:47
man, you looked out. Man, I'm like just thinking about
33:50
you because that's just naturally to me. So that's some of the traditions
33:52
I will always keep with me.
33:53
I believe in the shock factor. But you know, I'm also
33:55
a laugher and a giver.
33:58
So like Shun spriens out team
34:00
mate, you know, me and him pretty tight
34:02
too, And every year he falls
34:04
for the same. You
34:07
know, I buy him these gift cards, and
34:09
I'm talking about high end gift cards like
34:11
Louis Bauton, Gucci.
34:13
Whatever, I know him Apple, And
34:16
every year I put no money
34:18
on these cards.
34:19
Now I have to pay like twenty dollars to get the card
34:21
and get it out the store. And it's really embarrassing
34:24
going in the Louis Reiton store and they're like, how much
34:26
money you want? And I'd be like dollars and
34:29
Shine in turns gets
34:32
the card costs me every year, Thank you
34:34
man. I appreciate that, even though I ain't get
34:36
you nothing. I'd be like, yeah, that's cool. Two
34:38
weeks later he goes to the store, there's
34:41
nothing on the car. So that's how
34:43
it spread my joy. But that's how I also
34:46
challenged the old notion is
34:48
it the thought that counts?
34:50
But also in the.
34:51
Small household, we got this thing where
34:54
I let my kids open their presence
34:57
the night of Christmas Eve at
34:59
twelve one, so in
35:01
order we'll stay up. And I know most people drink
35:04
eggnog egnoged. I
35:06
would never no, I would
35:08
never touch it. So me and my kids we make milkshakes
35:11
that's our thing. I let everybody pick out their
35:14
color mixshake and we do that. But also
35:16
before my kids get the open gifts,
35:19
I actually they have to answer certain trivia
35:22
questions, and whoever answers the
35:24
trivia questions first.
35:25
They get to open their gifts. So I'll be having
35:27
a couple of kids sitting over there two.
35:29
Hours thirty
35:32
eight.
35:32
Yeah, I don't know about
35:35
my gifts, so I like to play mind
35:37
games to get them to actually
35:39
think a little bit.
35:40
It's because they be out.
35:41
Of school and I was live. Man, that's the I know. We can talk
35:43
all day about our traditions, but let's
35:45
dive into this week's matchup man against the Jets.
35:48
What are some of the things you looking for to seeing
35:50
from us? Yeah, and what are some things we have to
35:52
look out for for the Jets? Because you know that defense is
35:54
still that defense.
35:55
I was about to say they defense is the reason
35:57
they win games. They defense changes
35:59
game. You look at the teams that people feel like they shouldn't
36:02
have beat with the Philadelphia Eagles and the rest
36:04
of those teams, the defense was the reason.
36:06
They turn the ball over.
36:07
They pressure you, and when you think they're gonna pressure
36:09
you, some more, they'll drop seven. So the
36:12
end of the day, what we're gonna have to do, especially
36:14
on offense, I don't need them to be.
36:16
Dynamic, dynastic.
36:17
I don't need them to do anything but take
36:20
care of the ball, stay ahead
36:22
of the chains. If you turn the ball
36:24
over in New York, we will lead with
36:27
a loss and it might be lopsided.
36:29
So if we can just take.
36:30
Care of the ball and punt it, we got the punt because
36:32
guess what, on the opposite side of the ball, our
36:35
defense has an edge on their offense,
36:37
led by either Zach Wilson Travis
36:40
Simons.
36:40
So at the end of the day, don't get in our
36:42
own way.
36:43
Let's play mistake mistake free
36:45
football in ten I want that first game
36:48
that the offense, defense, and special
36:50
teams show up altogether.
36:52
Yeah, I mean that's first and foremost. I think, you
36:54
know, complimentary football is what we've been screaming all
36:56
year, and I think when you look at just what
36:59
we can do offensively against
37:01
the defense, like this is gonna be challenging, you know,
37:04
And we don't want to sit here and be hearing
37:06
what we're hearing already. People already want to I
37:08
want to see somebody else. It's always like that.
37:11
But I think you still have to I guess,
37:14
you know, you have to grade Sam in these last
37:16
three weeks to see what we got going forward. This
37:19
organization still want to see what this guy got
37:21
and we're not gonna think that far ahead. But I
37:23
think this is going to be one of his most challenging
37:25
weeks. But hey, maybe he rides to
37:27
the occasion show us something that we've seen already
37:30
that you know we can hang I had on. But
37:33
I do believe that our offense is our defense is
37:35
going to give our offense some opportunities. I think their
37:37
offense just is, you know, they're one of those
37:40
things that they're.
37:40
Struggling, you know, at the quarterback
37:43
position.
37:43
I mean, they have a guy on the outside, Garrett Wilson,
37:45
that can play for and then they have a
37:48
guy in the backfield he can play football.
37:50
So you never know if they can go out there and say
37:52
we're gonna run this thing down them and try
37:54
to, you know, make this one of them kind of ugly kind
37:56
of games. It can be a muddy, ugly
37:58
game. But I do believe, you
38:00
know, regardless of the situation, we
38:02
need to hold on to the football one or
38:05
possess the football too and then finish.
38:07
Yeah, offensive, we gotta finish and to
38:09
me, if we do all three of those, then
38:11
we should come out Victoria's.
38:13
Yeah, I do agree with you on that one.
38:14
Fred, Thanks for filling in for old Ball.
38:19
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38:23
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