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Fred Smoot and Emmanuel Forbes go 1-on-1 in this Mississippi State showdown | The Player's Club with Emmanuel Forbes | Washington Commanders

Fred Smoot and Emmanuel Forbes go 1-on-1 in this Mississippi State showdown | The Player's Club with Emmanuel Forbes | Washington Commanders

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Fred Smoot and Emmanuel Forbes go 1-on-1 in this Mississippi State showdown | The Player's Club with Emmanuel Forbes | Washington Commanders

Fred Smoot and Emmanuel Forbes go 1-on-1 in this Mississippi State showdown | The Player's Club with Emmanuel Forbes | Washington Commanders

Fred Smoot and Emmanuel Forbes go 1-on-1 in this Mississippi State showdown | The Player's Club with Emmanuel Forbes | Washington Commanders

Fred Smoot and Emmanuel Forbes go 1-on-1 in this Mississippi State showdown | The Player's Club with Emmanuel Forbes | Washington Commanders

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What's up, everybody, it's your boy, sat Tanemoss.

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Welcome to the Players Club.

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I got my partner in crime here with me, Fred

0:45

the mouth of the south most step Forred.

0:47

You know what man, I mean.

0:48

You've only talked about this dude all

0:51

year long, So I'm gonna let you introduce.

0:53

I guess as you know, I'm gonna introduce in the ncuba's

0:57

a top man in pig sixes,

1:00

best thief coming from Mississippi State.

1:02

I give him a step above, step

1:04

above me, mister Emmanual

1:07

bubes Man.

1:09

How you doing, brother? How you doing? Brother?

1:11

I'm good now, We're good were good man,

1:13

We good man. We want to welcome you to the show Man. I

1:15

mean, you know, I know it's late in the year, and especially

1:19

around the holiday time. You got a lot of stuff going

1:21

on, a lot of stuff on your plate.

1:22

Friends.

1:23

Holiday some time with us, we normally

1:25

start to show off with action about

1:28

or talking about your top three. So I'm gonna

1:30

let Fred ask this question to you. This healthy

1:32

conversation is presented by Signa Healthcare.

1:35

I want to know, and I know it's kind of time stamp,

1:38

but I know you you a historian when it comes

1:40

to the league and stuff like that. If

1:42

you had to say your top three DB's

1:45

of all time, who are

1:47

they? Don't have to be in no order, but

1:49

who are they?

1:50

Oh?

1:51

You got to den Saner s all

1:53

right, we got that in common. Uh

1:57

golly, that's

1:59

a tough question. I ain't even thought about that. Probably

2:02

my dog jaylen ramsay up there

2:06

there.

2:06

But see that's time sham, It's Timestep

2:08

and it's his top three. You know what I mean.

2:10

Listen, I understand I'm losing my notes.

2:12

God, I don't think I have a number three, to be honest.

2:15

So what about this other guys that you've heard

2:17

of or probably was told

2:19

or seen highlights of yeah from before

2:22

the time of you really playing close attention to the game,

2:24

the.

2:24

Champ Bailey's of the world.

2:26

I wasna say Champ Badley, he was a ball hall. Yeah,

2:28

he'll probably be my number three.

2:29

Okay, who you like? Fred?

2:31

He ain't got like I don't know because I'm kind

2:33

of like twisted in mind. I don't think I can say

2:36

three because then it'll look like I'm being

2:38

a homer if i say three.

2:39

So I'm gonna have to go four.

2:41

We all got the goat at the top,

2:43

Deon Sanders, and we all

2:45

know why we all like him. He changed the conerback

2:48

position. He is the conerback

2:50

position. He personified it, and we

2:52

all d on nights right now because

2:54

of him.

2:55

All right.

2:55

Then I also played against, I mean

2:58

played with Darryl Green. All

3:00

right, you gotta understand to play this, to play this

3:02

position.

3:03

For twenty years.

3:04

I got to sit in the meeting rooms

3:06

with him.

3:07

I got to learn from.

3:08

And the first thing Den told me when I

3:10

got he say, I know you're gonna try to learn from all

3:12

of us, but you know what Dalre Green on

3:14

the.

3:14

Person could theare agree?

3:16

So that being everybody not running the

3:18

four two four, one forty, so it was kind

3:20

of.

3:20

Different with him.

3:21

Then I also played with Champ Bailey, so

3:23

it's this thing that hit them three yellow

3:26

jackets right there. So imagine

3:28

me in this this this meeting room, and I'm looking

3:30

around like why y'all drove me? What's

3:33

really going on? But I cannot have

3:36

a top three And I know this is my fourth

3:38

guy, but no order. Charles Woodson

3:40

man and I just got to be honest.

3:42

Man, he won the Hires mean ain't

3:44

nobody won the Heisman on defenses.

3:46

He won to Hires mean ball hawk showed

3:48

that he can go on the.

3:49

Other side, play wide, receive very

3:51

d unlike I have to go Charles

3:54

Woodson.

3:55

I thought it was great, So I cannot do three.

3:57

I have to do four. What you think about the list is

4:01

I love both lists.

4:02

I think when he's talking about to some of this

4:04

new generation, it's hard to ask

4:06

them that question because it's just so many other

4:08

guys. But that's one of the reasons why we want

4:10

to hear your top you know what I mean? So I was

4:12

cool with whoever he said. He could have said Joe

4:15

blow and you know that woe thirty four.

4:18

With you as a wide receiver.

4:20

Though you're going against his group,

4:23

you're going against my group.

4:26

Your group.

4:27

I don't even see.

4:29

What I'm saying. I don't get me wrong, But he called

4:32

Dionne who else you's called out?

4:35

Jen? Don't get Jayalen to me is a different style

4:37

of cornerback when it comes to risk.

4:42

I fare out well against the physical guys because

4:44

they don't want to run with me. They want to beat you up at the line

4:46

of scrimmage. So I know I could be quick, you know

4:48

what I mean, you know, get off the line of scrimmage with

4:50

those guys. And then he talked about

4:52

you know Champ. I played against Champ. Champ

4:55

was a tough you know, tough guy to go up against because

4:57

he was fast.

4:57

Like you, you know what I mean.

4:58

He was loan, you know, he MIDI and you a little

5:00

bit might be a little you know, have a little more weight. But he

5:03

very rangey when it comes to his and I think it's Howdamp

5:06

was it.

5:06

Wide out yea, Champ played wide out running

5:08

back at Georgia, also played wide

5:10

out in the league. So we got a couple of

5:12

guys on that that kind of crossed the ball, so we

5:14

got three of them, Childs, Woodson, and

5:17

Champ.

5:17

I played when we scrimmershed

5:19

against Dean when he was with the Ravens. I didn't get

5:21

a chance to go up against Yeah, you know what I mean. But

5:24

I watched them from afar, just you know some of some

5:26

of our other guys that went up against him, and he

5:29

wasn't prime, you know, from the years

5:31

that we watched him growing up.

5:32

If the toe had went on and I'm.

5:34

A big I was a big Florida State guy that because

5:36

of him, I ain't want to do that till

5:38

my childhood childhood.

5:41

So you know that's why I failed the way I felt about

5:43

Florida State.

5:44

They didn't recruit me because why because

5:47

you know, French moved university. So

5:49

then about to play against all

5:51

Florida team in a certain way

5:54

after they did that, Now everybody had

5:56

their dream school, you know that.

5:58

Yeah, but you didn't want to smoke from Miami, So yeah,

6:01

you can say with you, I.

6:02

Wanted all the smoke most

6:04

definitely. Hey, well, we're gonna keep getting to

6:06

know you more about you man. In this next setting, it's

6:09

time for player Profile, presented

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by PEPSI, the official soft drink

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of the Washington Commanders. While in Mississippi

6:16

State you set the records for the most picked six in

6:18

history. So obviously you broke all my

6:20

records. That hurt a little bit. So

6:23

what doude does it mean to you to be like

6:26

stamped into the permanent

6:28

history of Mississippi State University?

6:31

You know I grew up from Mississippi. Yeah, and then

6:33

you know, like left

6:35

like fifty minutes from Mississippi State. You still watch

6:37

their games all the time, so it like it means a lot,

6:39

honestly knowing that my name is a top of the book

6:41

in the record.

6:42

My son coming to get that record. So

6:45

let me ask you this, did jail get recruited

6:47

by Old Miss? Because I know they recruited

6:50

me Hall, how you feel about that? What made you

6:52

choose Mississippi State over Old Miss?

6:54

So it's crazy. It's like my god parents, like

6:56

they used to take me to all the altar games since I

6:59

was the youngest, like young. So it's like

7:01

I kind of got Old Oxford, like I

7:03

grew out of Austin, you know how Oxford? Yeah, and

7:05

I went to Missisispi State and I was like, yeah, this is for me.

7:08

This is new.

7:08

Yeah, it wasn't because we was known for defensive

7:10

backs, because you know, one thing about it is,

7:13

oh missus the wide receiver was cool and

7:15

we the defensive back D line school.

7:17

So it ain't had nothing to do with that because you was

7:19

wide out though, right, Yeah I was.

7:21

I was they had something to do with defense because I know

7:23

I was gonna play defensive college and I was like old miss

7:25

you know, they defense not that very

7:27

talented at that time. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I'm

7:30

gonna go to State. They got a lot of guys. It's

7:32

one camp Danceler just left. They still had

7:34

Martin Emerson. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna join that group.

7:36

You know, Fred talked so much about Mississippi

7:38

State football or Mississippi football period,

7:40

but Mississippi State is something that you know,

7:43

a guy from Miami don't kind of we.

7:45

Won't know about y'all, you know what I mean, we don't.

7:46

We don't look up out that way and say who are

7:48

these guys? But then when you really watch a

7:51

lot of guys come from out of there, Yeah, what

7:53

was it like when you was there?

7:55

Who was the who's the guys?

7:56

Who's the guys that you was looking at a young Ford

7:58

saying, I want to all of these guy footsteps.

8:01

Brother, he played defensive back, corner whatever it

8:03

may have been. Offensive guy. Who was the guys

8:05

there then when you first came in.

8:07

At Mississippi State. Yeah, I'll probably

8:09

say definitely Cam Danseler.

8:12

When I was getting recruited in high school, he was still there.

8:14

That's when Cam was really good at

8:16

that corner and they just had a really

8:19

good defense a Mississippi State. That's when they had Jeffrey

8:21

Simmons. My test, okay test

8:23

was there too.

8:25

Did you play with tests in college?

8:27

No? I didn't play with Okay because offense.

8:29

I thought I kind of thought he was a little black like

8:31

I used to go on like visit and stuff.

8:33

That's when he was still there.

8:34

So yeah, got you, got you?

8:35

I got you.

8:36

Did anybody try to give you dual

8:38

scholarship because you was a baseball player too?

8:40

So some most of my scholarship football

8:43

and baseball, and a lot of my officials.

8:46

You ain't think about that football. You didn't think about that baseball

8:49

scholarship.

8:49

Like man, I could be why not even because

8:52

baseball team then they win the national championship

8:54

while you was there.

8:55

Yeah, Like, did you not try to play both

8:57

sports?

8:57

Because I tried to do it with basketball and

9:00

got some practices in and rode the bench on a couple

9:02

of games.

9:02

Boy swear he was a basketball Listen,

9:06

I ain't seen it yet.

9:07

I've been around him since we was what.

9:09

Eighteen years old. I ain't see him dribble the ball

9:11

yet.

9:13

I kind of had the same same injury I got.

9:15

Now, I had that in high school, all right, supposed

9:19

to have Tommy John surgery I had.

9:21

Yeah.

9:21

Yeah, And so this is why you stayed away from the baseball.

9:24

But did you go to the games while you?

9:26

Like, we didn't know?

9:27

The dude is always rocking, So I have to go down.

9:29

Yeah, you're the name of the stadium.

9:31

Have you got in the next game? The next game?

9:33

Yeah, I got to it. The stadium

9:35

is great. You're going to enjoy it.

9:37

Well, the things you did at Mississippi State led

9:39

you to that draft day. I'm

9:42

gonna ask you a couple of questions dealing with the

9:44

draft. One, I want to ask you what

9:46

was that night like? And then to that

9:49

transition from you know,

9:51

Mississippi here to the DMB.

9:55

How has the transition being since then?

9:57

I would say the transitioning good. You know, it's

9:59

a big difference living by yourself in a city

10:02

that you don't know really, so I'll probably

10:04

say that's the biggest thing. But the draft night, I

10:06

would say it was stressful, like

10:08

emotions all over the place, you know, saying

10:11

one corner get taken off the board at five and

10:13

like having no other corner get picked. You don't

10:15

really know, So it was a little

10:17

stressful both. When I got that call, I knew exactly

10:19

who was.

10:20

Did you go into the draft anticipating

10:22

the number, like like saying I want to

10:24

do I want to I want to be gone right here like

10:26

that.

10:27

If it's not here, I want to in

10:29

thirty five.

10:30

So yeah, offense say it. So I knew I was going to be

10:32

gone between between ten and twenty

10:34

two. Between there, yeah,

10:36

I knew I was.

10:37

That's pressure, man. I wasn't putting that pressure

10:39

on.

10:40

I would just like, I'm gonna let it play out

10:43

whatever happens happening.

10:44

Yeah, I couldn't. Boy talking about sitting there looking at the numbers,

10:46

I'd have been able to count.

10:50

The first thing you said, with you being in this new city

10:52

and being a loan now you're not used

10:55

to being alone because you got a lot of

10:57

brothers and sisters and you are the

10:59

youngest. Tell us how much how

11:01

hard it was, how to fight for space

11:04

in your house with ten, right.

11:06

Ten brothers and it's ten of us total, and

11:08

you the baby, I'm the second youngest.

11:10

Second take us through that.

11:13

Uh, you know, having

11:16

older brothers, you know, it's tough.

11:18

It's rough, it's wrong, it's real rough.

11:20

And they was definitely tough on

11:22

me and made me work for everything

11:24

I had to get.

11:25

Honestly, did you have to eat lass at the table?

11:27

Did they did?

11:28

Did they make it hard to fight for cover?

11:30

Luckily my mom made me eat first, so

11:34

she helped me with that. But besides everything

11:36

else, when she wasn't at home and my brother's

11:38

number, watch me, Laurid was it was?

11:40

It was tough.

11:42

All right, Well, we're gonna wrap this first one up.

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I am Fred Smooth with Santana

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Forbes and so far.

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What's been your most rewarding moment

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Yeah, I would probably say both. I got two. Both

14:26

of them's in college. Definitely. When I

14:28

broke the record for the pick six, yeah

14:31

versus Tennessee State, that was probably.

14:33

Going into the game when you when you keeping

14:35

up with it, was it in the back of your head?

14:37

All I need is one more?

14:39

Or yeah, of course that I like, We're

14:41

going against the East Tennessee State, so I know I'm

14:43

gonna play that loan. Yes, like I gotta go and get

14:46

it out the way, try to get it. Yeah, so I

14:48

got it and want to score. And I was

14:50

a big moment. So yeah, And I would probably

14:52

say the sacond this when we won egg Bowl

14:54

last year.

14:55

Yeah, they caught the egg Bowl, Yes, the egg Belt.

14:58

Who y'all played the game?

14:59

Oh?

14:59

Miss how was it? So it's because

15:01

the Mississippi.

15:02

Mississippi Rivalry SEC Rivalry

15:04

and me and I told you, I've been playing on Thanksgiving my

15:07

whole life.

15:07

We always play them on Thanksgiving.

15:09

So then I went from NIT rivalry to

15:12

the Cowboys in Washington rivaly,

15:14

which was also on Thanksgiving.

15:15

That's unique. So tell me this. When you was on that

15:18

that run or that terror like just picked

15:20

six out to pick six, was it

15:22

like you was just in a zone or was it like

15:24

something that you thought about.

15:26

Oh, you know, I visualized that me catching

15:28

a pick six like every game, that's something I always

15:31

do. I used to tell myself, if I pick

15:33

at I'm not going to get table. I gotta go

15:35

score with that.

15:36

Got you?

15:36

Yeah, So did you on

15:38

the way there, Let's just say, right before

15:41

the last one, did you have any drops

15:43

in there? Because it's always like when

15:45

were trying to get something, when we get to a destination,

15:48

we remember that one, like I could have did it two

15:50

games ago, but I dropped this ball.

15:53

I've dropped quite amount

15:57

and most of them came my sophomore year. Yeah,

15:59

And I was like, God, like, if.

16:01

I if I call those, I would have

16:03

really blew the number out, really had like

16:06

eight.

16:06

Seven, like yeah, out of six. So I was like, yeah,

16:09

I should have just took advantage of the opportunities.

16:11

Okay, well, I'm pretty sure it be plenty more

16:13

days and plenty more of those memories because

16:15

you're gonna have a long career. So let's put that in the

16:18

era, you know what I mean. But it's gonna lead

16:20

us into this next segment where we're gonna talk all

16:22

defensive backs and protect

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right? Fred and Forbes, Fred

16:41

and man, like you're

16:44

gonna take me into the defensive back's

16:46

mind. Yeah, something at you and you're gonna

16:48

kind of, you know, respond the way you feel. All

16:51

right, My favorite one, my first one,

16:53

would be your favorite sec

16:55

rival. You

17:00

know, I couldn't even I.

17:01

Couldn't this with do

17:03

questing right there, I'm running the right

17:05

corner right now.

17:06

You got him on the left corner. And they don't know you play

17:08

some dB.

17:09

They don't know.

17:09

Man, I'll be a little rover right now.

17:12

Put me so old miss and

17:14

what Mississippi State? So what about you?

17:16

I know, come on now, well.

17:17

You know, when it comes to me, I didn't have a favorite.

17:20

But the only favorite that Miami will

17:22

say is Florida State, you know what I mean? Like that

17:25

was the rifle I got up for, but it wasn't

17:27

like my favorite rider.

17:27

So why y'all don't feel that way about Florida? You

17:30

don't.

17:30

We don't get to play them every year. Florida. I

17:32

guess Florida and Miami had a little thing back

17:34

in the day. And you know, we know Maddie want our

17:36

producers she's a she's

17:40

Florida girl. I gotta show some

17:42

love. But now we when I came

17:44

to the University of Miami, we heard

17:47

the thing about Florida State and Florida.

17:50

So we always wanted to be the state champs.

17:52

You know, that's everybody's dream in Florida, like

17:54

if we want to be the state champ. And it didn't

17:56

always you know, come out of the way we wanted

17:58

to because Florida State was dominant.

18:00

But Florida they just ain't want none of us.

18:02

And then when it came time when they didn't let

18:04

us go to the national championship, we had

18:06

to play Florida just to have a chance to

18:08

shut up national championship with Florida State.

18:10

So you know we pounced on them. Well.

18:11

We also hated Alabama too. See when I was in

18:13

school, Alabama feared us. I

18:16

didn't lose to Alabama for one time. Hey

18:18

listen, we beat.

18:19

Them up and down.

18:21

All right, we're gonna get

18:23

this from the Fred favorite

18:25

receiver to go one on one with Fred.

18:28

You first and.

18:30

Played against so many we went over all the receivers.

18:32

I played again, a lot of yellow jackets

18:34

in there. The t o's of the world,

18:36

the random mosses of the world.

18:38

Who's your favorite one on one though? Probably

18:42

the one, probably the one that talked the most trads

18:44

with Chad, It's Chad Johnson.

18:46

Me and Chad had battles, No, lie,

18:48

this happened when we was coming out of school. Because

18:50

you ain't play in the Senior Bowl. Me and Chad

18:52

went played in the CIA Bowl. But we were playing. I was playing

18:55

for the South, he was playing for the North. He

18:57

dominating everybody at practice. They

18:59

come get he from the South practice to

19:01

go one on one with him two days in

19:03

a row, and we just battled one

19:06

after one after one. So I would most

19:08

definitely say Chad Johnson and

19:10

what I really like about him, not only here great athlete.

19:13

We did this at a high level.

19:15

So I enjoyed the robber. It was a Jouston

19:17

Max.

19:18

Okay, So who would be your one on one

19:20

guy that you want to go up or you went against?

19:22

Yeah?

19:23

Uh, you know.

19:24

At first the beginning to see is that was de Mont smil.

19:26

Okay, Yeah, slim reaper, verse, slim repel.

19:28

Now I got to change down a brown. Now

19:31

he won it this year.

19:32

But that's that the

19:35

approach you take because I listen

19:37

as much as I done got on receivers, they done got

19:39

me too.

19:40

That's part of the job. It happens,

19:43

you know what I think about, you know.

19:44

And I want to cut in with that because I watched

19:46

that battle and it's

19:49

one of those things when you're a rookie. Ye're a rookie.

19:51

You can see it no matter who you are. Yeah, because

19:53

we all got to be brought back down to earth for a

19:55

little bit. But I'm not saying that that what was

19:57

done to you because I understand defense. I

20:00

understand their situations where

20:02

at times you you was right there. You know what I

20:04

mean, It was right there. So I

20:07

would love to see you in that one on one and

20:09

where you can play your style of play. But when

20:11

you're playing in a defense where you

20:14

need to be protected in a certain way, I

20:16

don't like when I'm in a situation and I know someone's

20:18

got to have my back, yeah, and then I'm the one that hung

20:20

out to drive, you.

20:21

Know, life of a dB.

20:23

And that's why when we give up a touchdown

20:25

and we come to the bench and sit down, nobody

20:27

sit besides us.

20:29

We take that alone.

20:30

And didn't camera be right in your face? You

20:32

know what they said. So it's a hard

20:34

life for us.

20:35

Yeah.

20:35

So I would say I'm glad you said

20:37

that because that means this off season you're gonna have that

20:39

picture on the wall. Yes, and every

20:41

time you go out there and do some drills, you're gonna have that

20:43

in mind.

20:45

Steve Smith, Oh yeah, we

20:47

had them days.

20:48

Okay, next question, who's

20:50

the goat of the NFL in the defensive

20:53

backs?

20:53

Start with you first, the goat, greatest

20:56

of all time.

20:58

I'm gonna get phone calls.

20:59

Yeah, after this one, I'll probably

21:02

say mine els.

21:03

Daryl Green, George Derrek Green.

21:04

Yeah, outside livers press running for two,

21:07

you can't beat it.

21:09

I like that way to be a company man. But

21:14

also dum played for this team.

21:16

Yeah, don't get it twisted. I'm going

21:18

with the I have to d

21:21

Green.

21:23

So ye say, it's

21:25

no wrong answer with that. I never got a chance

21:27

to play against Daryl Green, and I never got a chance

21:29

to see you know, prime close

21:32

up on the football field, not on

21:34

the practice field, on the between the lines.

21:36

Yeah, but it was a great answers.

21:37

I mean when you look at what Daryl Green did

21:40

to play twenty years, to me, I feel like that

21:42

that speaks for itself.

21:43

And do you believe this at the twentieth

21:45

year he was still the fastest person.

21:47

Well I heard this at fifty some years old. He ran a FO

21:49

two, so he.

21:50

Probably running for two rights in the neighborhood

21:52

right now.

21:54

So you said, d okay, Next question, favorite

21:57

restaurant in Mississippi. I

22:00

want to hear this one, not

22:03

No Sizzlers Eve and I'm talking about No Sisters.

22:05

I was forget that Sizzlings Love Baby.

22:08

That's a good question. That's a good

22:10

question us on the Mississippi.

22:14

I'll probably say my favorite is KFC.

22:16

Hmm, that's my Favorite's a simple

22:19

man.

22:21

Do y'all not remember Punda Rosa?

22:23

Yeah?

22:23

I remember we had because it was kind of carefully

22:26

tear your stuff, had ice cream. I couldn't

22:28

wait to get to go there.

22:29

All you can get, listen, all you can eat.

22:32

When we ain't pundar Roasa, that means the family ball

22:34

and I don't know what happened.

22:35

To me on Sunday at the church.

22:39

Yeah, so pund

22:42

A Sizzler.

22:42

I got to always get sit and it ain't many of these

22:44

restaurants open, so that kind

22:46

of show our aid.

22:47

So we was We was in LA this past

22:50

all weekend and I remember we

22:52

was driving. I don't know where we was at me and be

22:54

mistress in the car again, I'm like, it's a sizzler

22:56

still open out here.

22:57

I would have stopped, whipped over some wrongs.

23:00

I need something out of there.

23:01

It was the spot man. So next question,

23:04

the favorite egg Bowl memory. We just

23:06

talked about egg Bowl. The favorite egg Bowl memory

23:08

was starting with you, Oh yeah, I got

23:11

some.

23:11

Uh, definitely my junior year

23:13

this past year. So

23:16

we was winning right and we had

23:18

the ball in the one yard line and the quarterback,

23:20

our quarterback fumble it. It's like two minutes

23:22

ago. So they drive the ball down all the way to score.

23:24

They down by two, and I'll

23:27

probably say when my d lineman knocked

23:29

the ball down on two point two point

23:31

convergion and we won the game. Oh man,

23:34

you know we had to run to the student section let them know

23:36

because they talked.

23:37

It's like talking to that student section.

23:39

Boy. Well mine they gave me.

23:41

Mine was a little different. Douce

23:44

McCallister, he's the tail

23:46

back. They motioned him out, old

23:49

me to the corner. Yeah, old miss motioned them out. So

23:51

now they motioned them out to my corner, so I had to move

23:53

out and they tried to run a fade.

23:55

Route with him.

23:56

I one hand the ball before Oldell.

24:02

Were down.

24:04

We're down by thirteen points with two

24:07

minutes left. At one hand the pass,

24:09

we go down.

24:10

We score.

24:11

Then the next play we had the famous

24:13

kick six where the other cornerback

24:16

on the other side, Robert Bean knocks

24:18

the ball, kicks it to my other homeboy.

24:20

He catches it, runs it back.

24:22

We kicked the field goal. We win the game by

24:24

one point. Ultimate egg Bowl.

24:27

Right there, that's a good one. I mean, that's a good way

24:29

to the end one right there. Yeah, yeah, all right, So it's

24:31

gonna be one of the I'm down in

24:33

here this one. Who had the better

24:35

era at State?

24:37

Well, let me give you,

24:40

let me give give an eye credentials.

24:43

Four years in a row, Number one on defense,

24:45

went to the Cotton Bowl, went to the SEC

24:48

Championship, lost

24:52

I think nine games in forty years.

24:55

I'm sorry. The golden years have

24:57

to be the French smooth era. What

25:02

you got to say about that?

25:03

For I'll probably say, you know, I

25:05

got the college in twenty twenty COVID year

25:07

had all SEC schedule.

25:09

Uh huh all SEC

25:11

schedule that year.

25:12

Yeah, no, I ain't playing nobody else, nobody else

25:15

lord that Yeah.

25:16

Yeah.

25:16

My sophomore year, you know, went nine

25:19

and nine three ninety four.

25:22

Yeah, I don't know. That's

25:24

pretty tall. So won ten

25:26

games last year, so I don't know.

25:28

You won ten games.

25:29

We went to the We end up playing in the Cotton

25:31

Bowl after the SEC.

25:33

Ricky Williams, he did run for

25:35

like two hundred yards on Angel Listen.

25:38

Ricky ran a lot of people. Ricky

25:41

ran a lot of.

25:42

People probably said they did. They made it to the CEA

25:44

champions They didn't win, But.

25:45

I think I think the only people they'll try to say

25:48

that they era was better than ours to be the deck

25:50

Prens Scott area because they was number one

25:52

in the nation at the time, trying

25:54

to play for a national championship. Him Fletcher

25:56

Cox. They had some dogs, Princeville Smith most.

25:59

Definitely you are you know where Fred

26:01

asked that question. So that's right,

26:08

don't worry.

26:08

We got more questions and more

26:10

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27:06

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27:55

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27:57

New England, third and four.

27:59

You break this one up, talk a little bit about it.

28:02

So I knew they was gonna try to come at me. That

28:04

was my first game back. Yeah, so I knew

28:06

that was coming at me. And they run a lot of inbreaking

28:09

routes with the wide split.

28:10

Yeap.

28:10

So I was just dining, pressing, anticipating

28:13

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28:14

And you was used to playing against Matt Jones, didn't play

28:16

against me in college.

28:18

Yeah, yep, yep, most definitely.

28:20

All Right, now, this one right here, this

28:22

is the one that made you e mortal in college,

28:25

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28:27

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28:29

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28:31

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28:33

Right Yeah, what

28:35

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28:38

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28:39

I do not get caught.

28:42

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28:44

granted him up for us. Man.

28:46

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28:51

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28:53

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28:57

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28:59

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29:01

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29:03

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29:04

Oh, you know, just staying healthy,

29:06

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29:09

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Welcome back to the players Club that you woayit to

30:32

the Now I'm here with the Mouth of the South. We're

30:35

gonna show what you are holiday traditions

30:38

and chop it up a little bit about this week's

30:40

matchup against the Jets. Fred.

30:42

Yeah, what are some of the traditions that you

30:45

do around the holiday time.

30:46

See, we got two Santa Claus names,

30:49

and we earned those names.

30:50

Mind being smoother Claus.

30:52

Ye, Well, it started when I was very

30:54

young, when I was playing and I used to

30:56

I used to get a couple of people to find needy families

30:58

for me, and I would get

31:01

the information how many kids, how many people

31:03

in the house, and I would also go buy

31:05

them all the toys, all the new technology.

31:08

But I would also work with the soul food

31:10

cafe Henry's and I get them to

31:12

cater them to dinner also because I always thought

31:14

people forgot about that. Now

31:16

kids can't eat toys, but I know they can play

31:18

with them, So it kind of put

31:20

the smoother Claus on. And then

31:22

I extended it by working with the

31:25

team and every year when they give away the

31:27

toy drive, I dress up in Santa Claus,

31:29

really a keto Santa Claus because

31:31

I'm skinny. And I got there and

31:33

I just said, because

31:36

one child said came to me.

31:38

The other day, it was like, Santa, why you so skinny?

31:41

I said, I ran from the north part, So

31:46

tell us, how did you get Santana

31:48

Claud.

31:49

Well, you know my Santana Claus thing

31:51

came my first year here. That's one of the things

31:53

about all my nicknames. Uh. You

31:55

know when I got tanner Man, it was when I was in

31:57

college. Someone gave me that Drin James

32:00

Folks back in I Mockley started calling

32:02

me tene Man off of me making a couple of plays.

32:05

You know, most Man was given to me by family.

32:07

Ten was given to me by my mom. I get

32:10

here and they give me sant Tana

32:12

Claus and I'm like, you know, it

32:14

was I guess it fit the moment, but

32:16

we hadn't even played the game yet. It was just it

32:19

was Christmas Eve, and I'm like, who

32:21

would have known that this is my favorite holiday? Who would

32:23

have known that this particular Christmas Eve, which

32:25

was in two thousand and five, I was just feeling

32:27

on one walking into that stadium. I had my family

32:30

up, I was finning

32:32

give bout some gifts and it

32:34

wasn't gonna be what they was expecting, you know, But

32:37

I mean that's how I got that. But if you're talking

32:39

about real traditions, some of the things

32:41

that I think I kind of wanted

32:44

to do once I got a chance to be able to do

32:46

it, It's one just be there

32:48

for my family, you know, Honestly, man, this

32:50

is my favorite holiday.

32:52

I remember growing up.

32:53

My mom them even when we didn't

32:55

have it during the year, they made a

32:57

way for us to have it around Christmas time.

32:59

If it was anything we wanted during the year, you

33:02

know, we knew that come Christmas we might

33:04

have it. And so one of my

33:06

traditions is just always to make sure I

33:08

gave to the people in my family that I knew

33:10

that couldn't just do it for themselves.

33:12

And I'm a giver.

33:14

I was a born giver, and

33:17

it's just something I look forward to around the holidays.

33:19

I remember I got to the point where I

33:21

was given a little too much because don't

33:24

you get the family. I'm saying, well, yeah, last

33:26

year gave you gave him an Xbox.

33:28

This year you want a PS five.

33:31

I'm like, man, I ain't got no PS five

33:33

money. So I'm like, gave your xbox.

33:35

Now you want PS five. So but uh, you

33:37

know, but I'm still there. I'm one of those guys

33:39

if it's one hundred dollars, you know, on

33:41

a cash shop. You know, even my nephews

33:43

and nieces now, like sometimes they don't even ask me.

33:45

I just sent a hundred and they're like, oh

33:47

man, you looked out. Man, I'm like just thinking about

33:50

you because that's just naturally to me. So that's some of the traditions

33:52

I will always keep with me.

33:53

I believe in the shock factor. But you know, I'm also

33:55

a laugher and a giver.

33:58

So like Shun spriens out team

34:00

mate, you know, me and him pretty tight

34:02

too, And every year he falls

34:04

for the same. You

34:07

know, I buy him these gift cards, and

34:09

I'm talking about high end gift cards like

34:11

Louis Bauton, Gucci.

34:13

Whatever, I know him Apple, And

34:16

every year I put no money

34:18

on these cards.

34:19

Now I have to pay like twenty dollars to get the card

34:21

and get it out the store. And it's really embarrassing

34:24

going in the Louis Reiton store and they're like, how much

34:26

money you want? And I'd be like dollars and

34:29

Shine in turns gets

34:32

the card costs me every year, Thank you

34:34

man. I appreciate that, even though I ain't get

34:36

you nothing. I'd be like, yeah, that's cool. Two

34:38

weeks later he goes to the store, there's

34:41

nothing on the car. So that's how

34:43

it spread my joy. But that's how I also

34:46

challenged the old notion is

34:48

it the thought that counts?

34:50

But also in the.

34:51

Small household, we got this thing where

34:54

I let my kids open their presence

34:57

the night of Christmas Eve at

34:59

twelve one, so in

35:01

order we'll stay up. And I know most people drink

35:04

eggnog egnoged. I

35:06

would never no, I would

35:08

never touch it. So me and my kids we make milkshakes

35:11

that's our thing. I let everybody pick out their

35:14

color mixshake and we do that. But also

35:16

before my kids get the open gifts,

35:19

I actually they have to answer certain trivia

35:22

questions, and whoever answers the

35:24

trivia questions first.

35:25

They get to open their gifts. So I'll be having

35:27

a couple of kids sitting over there two.

35:29

Hours thirty

35:32

eight.

35:32

Yeah, I don't know about

35:35

my gifts, so I like to play mind

35:37

games to get them to actually

35:39

think a little bit.

35:40

It's because they be out.

35:41

Of school and I was live. Man, that's the I know. We can talk

35:43

all day about our traditions, but let's

35:45

dive into this week's matchup man against the Jets.

35:48

What are some of the things you looking for to seeing

35:50

from us? Yeah, and what are some things we have to

35:52

look out for for the Jets? Because you know that defense is

35:54

still that defense.

35:55

I was about to say they defense is the reason

35:57

they win games. They defense changes

35:59

game. You look at the teams that people feel like they shouldn't

36:02

have beat with the Philadelphia Eagles and the rest

36:04

of those teams, the defense was the reason.

36:06

They turn the ball over.

36:07

They pressure you, and when you think they're gonna pressure

36:09

you, some more, they'll drop seven. So the

36:12

end of the day, what we're gonna have to do, especially

36:14

on offense, I don't need them to be.

36:16

Dynamic, dynastic.

36:17

I don't need them to do anything but take

36:20

care of the ball, stay ahead

36:22

of the chains. If you turn the ball

36:24

over in New York, we will lead with

36:27

a loss and it might be lopsided.

36:29

So if we can just take.

36:30

Care of the ball and punt it, we got the punt because

36:32

guess what, on the opposite side of the ball, our

36:35

defense has an edge on their offense,

36:37

led by either Zach Wilson Travis

36:40

Simons.

36:40

So at the end of the day, don't get in our

36:42

own way.

36:43

Let's play mistake mistake free

36:45

football in ten I want that first game

36:48

that the offense, defense, and special

36:50

teams show up altogether.

36:52

Yeah, I mean that's first and foremost. I think, you

36:54

know, complimentary football is what we've been screaming all

36:56

year, and I think when you look at just what

36:59

we can do offensively against

37:01

the defense, like this is gonna be challenging, you know,

37:04

And we don't want to sit here and be hearing

37:06

what we're hearing already. People already want to I

37:08

want to see somebody else. It's always like that.

37:11

But I think you still have to I guess,

37:14

you know, you have to grade Sam in these last

37:16

three weeks to see what we got going forward. This

37:19

organization still want to see what this guy got

37:21

and we're not gonna think that far ahead. But I

37:23

think this is going to be one of his most challenging

37:25

weeks. But hey, maybe he rides to

37:27

the occasion show us something that we've seen already

37:30

that you know we can hang I had on. But

37:33

I do believe that our offense is our defense is

37:35

going to give our offense some opportunities. I think their

37:37

offense just is, you know, they're one of those

37:40

things that they're.

37:40

Struggling, you know, at the quarterback

37:43

position.

37:43

I mean, they have a guy on the outside, Garrett Wilson,

37:45

that can play for and then they have a

37:48

guy in the backfield he can play football.

37:50

So you never know if they can go out there and say

37:52

we're gonna run this thing down them and try

37:54

to, you know, make this one of them kind of ugly kind

37:56

of games. It can be a muddy, ugly

37:58

game. But I do believe, you

38:00

know, regardless of the situation, we

38:02

need to hold on to the football one or

38:05

possess the football too and then finish.

38:07

Yeah, offensive, we gotta finish and to

38:09

me, if we do all three of those, then

38:11

we should come out Victoria's.

38:13

Yeah, I do agree with you on that one.

38:14

Fred, Thanks for filling in for old Ball.

38:19

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38:23

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