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Everybody welcome to a podcast for dog

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people . I'm John and I'm Jamie and we

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are your personal dog experts . We're

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here to help you better understand your dogs and the wide

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spectrum of behaviors they exhibit , so

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join us on this journey to learn everything

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. Dog , everybody

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. Welcome back to the Boston University show

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today . We are this week and

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Really two weeks in a row

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. Yes , we're gonna be talking about puppies , puppies , puppies

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, puppies , and talk about puppy questions

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. Some best practices , if

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you're following along on Instagram . We

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touched on crate training , as we're exposing

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our current rehab dog , clarence

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, to the crate . He's got some

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bad associations with it , so we're gonna work on

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getting positive associations . So we're touching on

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crate training . Touching on nipping

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and mouthing and General

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puppy craziness . Yeah

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, I Already forgot what you had said to me . Leash

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walking is another thing we're gonna be touching on

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. Yes , oh , how do you

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set your puppy up for success as

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they learn to leash and they learn how to walk , because

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this is a lot of people don't realize . It's

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a critical time because that's where

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they can develop these learned . What

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is it called ? condition this conditioned reflexes

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where they're gonna want to start to pull to

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get that extra Freedom and they're gonna learn to do that

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every time they're on a walk . So we want to be careful about what we

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do and what we teach them and what we install leash

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walking . So

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I have a puppy right in . This puppy Doesn't

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know how to walk on a leash period . What

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are my best practices ? How should I approach this

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?

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So I always tell my puppy parents

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right from day one because this is a big

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mistake that we make . We will

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not buy Proper

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hardware in the beginning because we're like

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, all the puppies gonna grow , I don't want to spend money

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on a harness that's gonna fit them for five

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seconds , which I totally understand . But

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the problem with this is if we just walk

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our puppies on a regular

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collar or a martin gale collar From

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the beginning , they are like little drunk

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aliens in the beginning . Right , they're all over the

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place . They don't understand how to walk tethered

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to somebody yet , so they they're not understanding

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the idea of , like , if I go this way and get tugged

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, it's gonna hurt my neck or whatever , right , so they're

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all over the place . And a lot of times when we

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have a puppy , when we look at the whole thing

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, the whole big picture , we're

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exhausted . Right , our bandwidth

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is super low . Yep our expectations

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are way too high and we are overwhelmed

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and we're just all over the

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place . So what tends to happen and

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I'm sure you've done this or you've seen somebody

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driving by who's got a puppy and they're

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on their phone , they're not paying attention

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and they're just walking this dog or just like talking

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the entire time and not Actually

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doing anything that's worthwhile for this dog does

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not set this dog up for success . So what I usually

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tell people is to get proper

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hardware , because when you don't

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and you're distracted and your bandwidth

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is low , what's gonna happen is you're gonna walk

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this dog who is all over

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the place , bound to get that pressure

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on the neck from the back and Then

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want to pull against you , but

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on the flip side , you're not communicating

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properly . So if puppy wants to go right

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but you want to go left because that's in your head

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, you're going that way . That's , that's the goal for

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you . You're just gonna

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tug puppy along and Puppy's

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not gonna understand what you're doing right

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, versus saying , come on , good boy

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, come on , good girl , come with mommy Right or daddy

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, and they'd be like there .

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You know , they're puppies , they can be like okay , yeah , that's great

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, right You're all excited , you know right

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, you're not allowing the opportunity for Any

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kind of conditioned reflex to

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begin .

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Yes , so in reality , what they learn

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over time ? Because you're just tugging and

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you're not giving anything proper for them to learn from

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. You're Just tugging puppy along so they

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learn after a while . This tug , tug , tug at

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my neck . I can eventually , as I get

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bigger and as I

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become more , I

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want to discover and I'm more independent

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and I really I'm interested in this smell and I'm not

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so easily malleable . I

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am going to start pulling against that

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tug Because my body is

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telling me to do so , not because I'm

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being stubborn because a lot of people like to throw that word out there

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. My dog is stubborn and

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I'm like . No stubborn does not exist in a dog's

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world . They do not have the capability

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for that emotion . What's happening

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is their , their brain and their

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body are saying what I'm doing physically Right

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now smelling walking in this direction

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Suits me better and meets

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my needs better than you

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tugging me along for the unteam time

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. Right so they're going

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to subconsciously pull against

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you and a lot of times you'll see what we call

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Pancaking , where they

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grip the ground , their body gets super low

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and they refuse to move . That's the worst . Okay

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, now , if you have a dog who

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is doing that's a conditioned reflex . Their , their

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brain is not saying oh , let me piss mom and

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dad off , let me see you know what I can , what I

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can do to annoy them .

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Their body is literally Responding

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to your pressure on the leash right

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and they've learned that if they do this , they

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, they get to stay , they get to stay Even if it's

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just for 10 seconds . While you try and

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navigate that situation , they start to figure it out

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.

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Yep , I or you get the dog

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down the line . Who gets a little bit older people come to me and they're

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like my dog is just pulling towards nothing . You've ever seen

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a dog who's just pulling and they don't

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even know where they are , but they're determined

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to go somewhere and people are

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like I don't get it , like they're better towards the

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end of the walk . Yes , because in the beginning they're

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so over excited and they never

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learned how to calm themselves down . Then we get into impulse

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control , but now they're getting that leash

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tug right , so they're just chugging right along . They're

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like pull , pull , pull , pull , pull . I gotta pull , gotta pull , gotta pull

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when in reality they're not even going towards

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anything in specifics

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. So what we're doing

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is that we're doing them into service from the very

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beginning . This is not something that needs to be worked

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on once it's done and you have a

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puller . This needs to be done in the very beginning

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, so we don't even get there , right . So

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a couple of things you can do instead Proper

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leash hardware

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in the beginning , right ? So we love the easy

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walk harness . That's just our suggestion across

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the board . I mean , there's some dogs that it doesn't fit well

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, just their bodies are kind of weird

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and you know you get some

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weird mixed breeds that you know they're super

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barrel-chested but their legs are like two inches

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long . So like it depends

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on your dog's posture and their body , but

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majority I would say 95%

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of dogs that we work with . The easy walk is a

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dream and it fits great , as long as you know

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you cinch it up in certain places . We

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suggest double clipping the

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leash , so the leash clip will be double clipped

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to the harness D-ring and

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the collar D-ring at

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the same time . This will

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give you a better control and it will not allow for

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that harness to get in the way of your dog's

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gait . So their shoulders it won't block their

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shoulders from walking properly . Proper

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leash walking hardware that's

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first right . And then talking to your

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dog , your puppy , right , so to speak . You have

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a little tiny puppy and you're walking

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and you you know everyone's like oh , how do I get my puppy to walk

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on a leash ? This is the time you need to put the work in . Okay

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, even though you're bandwidth is small and

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you're exhausted and you're overwhelmed

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and overstimulated , this

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is the time to put in the work . Have your treats

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, your treat pouch , you go walking

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. Don't have high expectations and don't try

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to take them far . This is like a two

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house down type of situation . Okay

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, you're using your high value treats . I like

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to use string cheese for a lot of my puppies because it's

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okay on the belly , versus using something that's really high

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in fat . And you're just gonna

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talk to your puppy . You're gonna be good girl , good

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boy , look at mommy , look at daddy , whatever . And

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you're gonna keep talking to them and every

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single time they kind of give you like that look , you're

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gonna treat them and you're gonna tell them that they're awesome

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. You are building

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a reward history . Your dog is learning

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. Oh , when I pay attention to mom or dad on

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this walk , they give me

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good stuff . Not only are they giving me food , but they're also giving

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me tons of praise and love , which beefs me

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up and makes me feel really good . That is a lot

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better than sticking

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with this one smell that I can't break

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away from . Right , you

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have to , like you pick your options

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here . What's more valuable Love , food

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and affection from my parents or the

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smell that I really get nothing out of other than a little bit

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of stimulation , and stimulation

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is great . That's where the other part of like not

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having high expectations is like your

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dog's outside and it's a puppy and this is new

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for them . So , like , give them that time to sniff without

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kind of like chucking them along with the leash

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, give them that time to stimulate

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. So it's a balancing act . But you're

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creating that reward history of them saying

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, yes , when we're outside , mom and dad talk

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to me , I get all these resources

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and we kind of like we just float

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along . Right , if

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they're pulling and they're lunging towards certain things

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again , like if you're on that easy walk , it's

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gonna be a lot better to control because they're gonna

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actually get turned back towards you without any pain

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or discomfort and they're gonna understand that

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lunging really doesn't actually work for them that well

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. So

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that is the way you start . But

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it really is like not tugging on that

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leash and conditioning that reflex

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and I like to explain the condition reflex

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like if you have

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a , maybe you have an older dog , maybe you don't have a puppy , but

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you've seen a dog lunge before and

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you know what their triggers are , right , like , let's say

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, they're reactive to other dogs and you see

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a dog like that just came out of its house , you're

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gonna cock your arm back and

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you're gonna actually widen your stance because

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you don't wanna fall , you don't wanna

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be , you know , dragged along

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with your dog . As you know , they're gonna bark in , lunge like they

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usually do . So you try to fix your body

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in a way that protects you

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and your body , so you don't obviously pull your shoulder

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out . That's a conditioned reflex . You

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didn't tell your brain to do that . Your

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brain saw the situation

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unfolding and said , okay , what do we need to do

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? What's about to happen ? And it

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does it to protect itself . It's not something that was

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a conscious decision in your brain . So

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that's very similar to what goes on for our dogs

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when they feel that pull . It's not something they think about like

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, oh , I gotta pull now because I feel this pressure . It's

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just something that happens to their body

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. It's a conditioned reflex . Yes

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, so that is what I

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usually suggest for people . I literally had

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a client yesterday

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who's he's not a puppy , but we've been working since

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he's a little bit younger and he actually got out of

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his gate . Accidentally . Someone did not close

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the gate and he got out and

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mom had built a

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really good reward history with the touch cue

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, as per our training , and

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instead of saying no , come back here . And

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getting all angry , she

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kept her composure and said touch

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, really happily , and this dog boom . She

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said it once and he was like oh crap

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, I don't wanna be out here .

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That's good .

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And he came right back and

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I was so happy because not

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only did we avoid an

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issue because there was actually another dog , that's why he

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was up on the gate , because there was a dog outside

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being walked Did we

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avoid a scuffle and a traumatic

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event , but you know , we

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not only that , but now it

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, even more so , hits

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the reward history home , because

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now then she totally showered

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him with treats and praise like

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he was the king that night and I was like that's so

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good , because he really needs to know that what he did was awesome

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and that's exactly what we need every single time , god

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forbid that happens again . So

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you know , that's just an example of like how the reward

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history kind of works . When you're working with

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your dog and you're communicating

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with them consistently on a walk and you're not distracted

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on your phone , they will

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give you what you're looking for . I

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had another client that just was here the other day for

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an in-person session and we were walking and , like

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dad , was floored by

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her attentiveness

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to me on the walk . Now , we had just met

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and I explained to him listen , this is a little bit unrealistic

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because I'm basically Santa Claus . You

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know , I'm this high-pitched , excited

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cheerleader with a bag of treats and

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she's not used to that from you , right ? Like there's

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other variables that are in your relationship , right

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, like you work from home . So there's times where you're

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essentially in her eyes , ignoring her . You

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know you feed her Like you have a different

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relationship than her and I . We just

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met and this is who I am . I

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am the treat lady , you've been consistent

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for the last 15 minutes of treats , exactly

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, and that's all she knows is that I'm consistent

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, and when she checks in with me on the walk she gets

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rewarded and she thinks I'm the best thing

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since sliced bread . But you can

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put that in your day . The

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only reason why we don't do that is because we get

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lazy and we get complacent and we think it's not

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necessary anymore . I truly

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believe our dogs are here for a short period of time . They should

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be spoiled and loved up

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on 24 , seven and a

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lot of people say , oh , I don't want to be dependent on treats . But in reality

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it's like these dogs are here for what ? 14 years

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, if you're lucky .

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If you're lucky , if you're lucky .

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like a lot of people , I feel like now it's like eight

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, nine , because everyone's getting cancer , but

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like they're only here for a short period of

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time , who cares if you're dependent on treats

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? Wouldn't you rather that than

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have a dog who's super reactive or doesn't

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listen to you at all ? And it's this fear-based relationship

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.

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But wouldn't you rather be dependent on treats and

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praise than being dependent on a

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remote controller or a collar ? Exactly .

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Like I don't get it right , like you would rather do

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that You'd rather hold a remote control

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or a prong collar than

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just have a really fun time with your dog

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, right ? And if you are

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the one that would rather hold the remote

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control or the prong collar , like , stop getting dogs

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because you're in it for the wrong reason , you don't need to

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have a dog . It's not a necessity , right

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?

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That's a big thing too . It's an accessory for a lot of these people , I know but

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stop , because you're not doing anybody any favors .

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So yeah , did I miss anything with

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that ? I don't think so yeah we just want a really

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good , solid reward , history

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and fun for your dog on walks Because , again , if they're

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not having fun , they're not gonna listen to you and

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they're not gonna go on the walks . They're not gonna wanna yeah

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. So that's the hardware point of view

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. Okay , when

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you use anything else , right , like people will say oh , prong collar

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works , yeah , it works because it hurts and you

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can try to the ends of the earth .

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Don't tell us it doesn't hurt If it didn't hurt it wouldn't

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work .

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It wouldn't work , it doesn't make any sense .

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Think about it , Seriously think about it .

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And again , the walk is for them . A lot of people . I

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have some clients that come to me like , listen , I wanna get off

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the prong collar . I only use it because I'm terrified

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, because I really think that my dog is gonna get off

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. Fine , come to us , we'll

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help you get off that prong collar and find a

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safe harness that

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will work for you and make you feel confident

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on your walk so you're not also anxious . But

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yeah , that is my suggestion

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for good , proper leash walking

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. Do not have high

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expectations in the beginning for your puppy . Create

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that really awesome reward history . Pay

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attention right . Engage

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with them , talk to them . They are so

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malleable at this age . When they're younger , they'll

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go with you if you're happy . They don't care what you're saying , right

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? And then also give them time

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to stimulate and sniff , because that's valuable

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and that's necessary for a dog . Don't just

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expect them to like walk for exercise . The second they

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come out of the womb . That's not what they're looking for . They're looking

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to like sniff and smell . Yeah , so

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let them do that . Have that , put that into

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your walk right . Say okay , five

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minutes in the beginning to let them stimulate in the front yard and

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then maybe 10 minutes or five minutes of walking

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down the street .

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Yeah , and then one more thing back on the

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prong collar I just want to make one more note . The

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prong collar was never designed or intended

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to be used as the primary

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collar , so you're not supposed to be walking your dog on a prong

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collar . So if you're worried about your dog is so strong

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that you can't walk them on a regular harness , you're afraid something's

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going to break . The prong collar is going

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to break before a harness breaks Period

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. They're not intended for that kind of

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usage . They're intended to be a secondary

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collar that you can provide

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a correction through . It's not supposed

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to hold your dog back .

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A lot of people don't know that

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A lot of trainers who use prong

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collars .

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Don't know this .

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Yes , Like I've had people

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come to me and their dogs are like in

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their house when I'm doing a virtual session . The dog just

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has a prong collar and I'm like is this

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how we live Next time you ?

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see a , as long as you have a reputable

15:45

police department in your area and they have a canine unit

15:47

. Look at what they have . They don't walk the

15:50

canine on the prong collar . The prong

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collar is there to release a bite

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. When they bite , uh , when they apprehend

15:57

someone and they want to release that bite , they

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use the prong collar for that . Then they're

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not walking the dog on the prong collar . So

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something to consider .

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Yeah , yeah . You know , I never really

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thought about that . Like , if the policemen are

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not doing it with our canine dogs , why are we doing

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it with our family dogs , which is as old school Milton

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as you can get yeah .

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All right . So if you follow us on Instagram

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, you notice last week we were taking

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questions on our story for

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this podcast and the next podcast . I have

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a really good question

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for you from our friends at Pities and Pals Rescue

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and it looks like they have an 11

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week old dog that they are caring for right

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now must be in foster and uh

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. Lots and lots of puppy nipping

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, trying everything , every possible option

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, with no success . Um

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, I don't know what every possible option sounds

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like , so let's give them the best possible uh

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options to move forward from here .

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So what I would assume

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cause this . This puppy is in foster right , so

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I'm assuming that puppy was not

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with mom which is typically

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the issue usually is right Is an

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11 week old . That's not what their family totally

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normal , totally on its own , no other siblings

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.

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It's expected that they're going to have nipping and mouthing

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problems because they don't have a proper

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outlet to learn on right

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.

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So , uh , puppies learn bite inhibition

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. That's the um . The learning

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of how hard is too hard , right

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, and there are a lot of um dogs

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who do not learn this from puppyhood . And

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I will have clients that come to me and they're like , they're

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a little bit old and they still play really rough , right

17:26

, Even though they're really good dogs . They do not have proper

17:28

bite inhibition , so they are

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still malady to the point where it's painful

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, even though they're not intending to . So that's that

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pressure for the dog to learn . Oh , that's too hard

17:37

. Sorry , I didn't mean to do that to you . Um , so

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if this puppy did not learn already at 11

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weeks from its siblings or mom , depending

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on the past history , right , that's something that we

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have to look at , so we have to give a little bit of extra empathy

17:48

. Um , now my other

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like thing in my head is like , okay , lots of puppies

17:52

that are in foster tend to be with other

17:54

friendly dogs in foster , right . So

17:56

I'm thinking , okay , is this other dog

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in foster , Um , you

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know , more submissive

18:03

and assertive enough to correct

18:05

yes , yeah . Right , cause that's proper . So

18:07

we have a puppy who's with other dogs . This

18:10

is only in a situation where they're with other dogs . Is

18:13

the older dog confident

18:16

enough or have the personality to

18:18

correct that puppy properly ? Right

18:20

, and corrections are necessary between dogs

18:22

. So puppy would only learn oh

18:24

I bite , I bit you too hard by the other dog

18:27

, either growling or barking at them or

18:29

crying , right . And if that's not

18:31

happening , like the dog is just submissive and like running

18:33

away or like allowing it , this puppy's going to think

18:35

it's okay . Right , these are like we need

18:38

proper boundaries . Now let's say this puppy isn't

18:40

in foster with another

18:42

dog and it's in foster just with humans

18:44

, right . Then it's unfortunately

18:46

on us as humans to really help this dog along . We

18:48

have to keep our patients super low

18:50

, that's . I mean I'm super high , right

18:52

? So we have to make sure that our frustration is not mounting

18:55

. Then the dog is feeding off of that , because the

18:57

more we get frustrated , the more overstimulated we

19:00

get . We are feeding that chaos

19:02

. I love this quote . It's more about kids , but it also works

19:04

with dogs . Is an escalated parent can't

19:06

deescalate and escalate a child . If your

19:08

puppy is like in Cujo mode

19:10

, losing its mind , tantrum in target

19:12

. That is not the time that we

19:15

are going to be teaching this , because they are not in

19:17

a mental state to accept this . I you

19:19

know , zoomie mode , cujo mode . It's

19:21

not the time where their eyes are bulging out of their head

19:23

and they look at the shark from Nemo . Not

19:26

the time right . So we need to pick times where they're

19:28

super calm , they had proper mental stimulation

19:30

, frozen bones , frozen cons

19:32

, work to eat , toys that are soothing

19:35

their teeth and , you know , kind of meeting

19:37

that expectation in terms of , like , oral fixation

19:39

and stuff like that . Once they get that

19:42

, they've potted , they had a nap

19:44

, they're not over tired , they're , they're not hungry

19:46

, they are like you , you've met all

19:48

the needs , right , you met all the needs and now

19:50

we're just like chilling and we're like playing a

19:52

little bit and there's some toys or whatnot . That's

19:55

the time I usually tell my parents to sit on the floor

19:57

and you know , being

20:00

in a really engaging

20:02

presence , and offer

20:04

your hands , like literally offer your hands out

20:06

and let's see

20:08

what they're going to do . Most of the times puppies will come

20:10

to know they're like oh , you're giving me your hands . When

20:13

they do this , when they actually bite down

20:15

, I am pro using the Yip

20:17

noise . I find this works really really well

20:19

for the majority of dogs not all dogs , but

20:22

majority of the dogs . So you offer those hands when

20:24

they when they bite down , not before , not

20:26

after , when they bite down really

20:28

high pitch , I'm not . I'm got to do it the right way on here .

20:31

Yeah .

20:31

Like that . Sorry If that was too loud . John

20:34

will have to .

20:34

No , you're good .

20:35

Okay , and they usually

20:37

bounce back and they're like , oh my God , what was that ? Right

20:40

, when they stop and they

20:42

look at you concerned , you say good boy , good

20:44

girl , thank you . Right , you're letting them know when

20:46

they stop that , remarking that

20:48

behavior , right , but you showed them how

20:51

that hurt , thank you for stopping , right , we

20:53

can't just do the Yip and go about our business

20:55

. We need to show , because a lot of

20:57

times if you ever notice with dogs dog on dog

20:59

, puppy nips , older

21:01

dog will yelp or growl . When puppy

21:03

stops , they'll usually give and this is Oakley , I've seen

21:05

him do this give a kiss or

21:07

a nuzzle or like , um , uh

21:10

, physical marker of like we're good , right

21:13

, it's fine , thank you . Thank you for listening

21:15

. Um , that's how dogs communicate . So we

21:17

have to even though it's difficult and we are humans , we

21:19

do have to try and emulate that

21:21

we're not hurting them back , cause that teaches

21:23

nothing . Right , we're not fighting violence with violence . We

21:26

are not , you know , putting our hands around their , their muzzle

21:28

and yelling at them . That won't work , cause

21:30

they're not understanding that . Correction

21:32

yelling or putting your hand around the muzzle does

21:34

not say you bit me too

21:36

hard .

21:37

They're not yet . They're not creating that association .

21:39

No they're just like oh wow , you're rough . Yeah

21:41

Well , for your rough , I can be rough . So we don't want

21:43

to meet violence with violence . We don't want to meet fire

21:45

with fire . We want to say , oh , that hurt me , right

21:48

. And when you stop , that's when we can continue our

21:50

play right , or our , or our affection

21:52

towards each other . And sometimes this will

21:54

get dogs um , elevated . They

21:57

yip will sometimes backfire and they get over

21:59

stimulated . That's when you have a

22:01

dog who's probably not getting their needs

22:04

needs met on a daily basis . They're

22:06

more , um , emotionally charged at

22:08

a drop of a hat . So that's something that we want to look

22:10

at . They're very intelligent , they're hyper focused , they're

22:12

anxious , um , they've got a lot of pent

22:14

up energy . They're , um , the dogs

22:16

who look for that negative attention really

22:18

, really quickly . Those dogs are the ones that are going

22:20

to have a little bit of a harder time with the Yip

22:23

, because it instantly gets them zero to 10

22:25

. Most dogs I would say 90%

22:27

do fine with the Yip and thank you after Um

22:29

, but if they come back , you're going to continue

22:31

to do it , um , if they don't get overstimulated

22:34

, if they're not coming back and biting you harder , but they're like Ooh

22:36

, like they're just re exploring . Continue

22:38

with the Yip If they come at you harder now

22:40

. They're like play bowing and they like think it's

22:43

it's a game .

22:44

It's a game .

22:44

I want you to completely , um , get

22:47

rid of the Yip . Don't , don't re attempt that

22:49

. We just got to figure out if your dog is in that 10%

22:51

category , um , and

22:54

we have to find a different method , right ? So um

22:56

with that . We had this with Sage my

22:59

parents puppy . Um , she

23:01

was the one . If you saw on Instagram she went viral

23:03

that we were quote unquote fostering

23:06

for another family , but in reality it was their

23:08

Christmas gift . But we had to get her

23:10

good with their current dog , gatsby , who you know

23:12

doesn't like other dogs . Now they're besties

23:14

. Um , she really struggled

23:16

with bite inhibition . She was a dog who the Yip

23:19

did not work for . Yeah Right

23:21

, like . She still slightly struggles

23:23

with how hard is too hard when she gets

23:25

overstimulated . She goes zero to a hundred

23:27

sometimes and sees red , even though she's

23:29

not doing it aggressively intense and

23:31

, and you know , on purpose for

23:33

her . Um , her , her

23:36

zero to a hundred is is a quick

23:38

sometimes . So we have to make sure that she's on

23:40

a proper nap schedule . So I would really

23:42

urge pitties and pals to look at this dog's schedule

23:45

. When is it happening the most right

23:47

? Is it constant or is it just like in the bewitching

23:49

hours at night ?

23:50

Right .

23:50

Right , because then we need to head that off with if

23:52

it's happening at five o'clock . That puppy

23:54

needs um a frozen bone

23:57

and then a nap . Yeah , bypass

23:59

that timeframe right Puppy teethering

24:01

puppy teethering , anything

24:03

that um will

24:06

kind of bypass you through that period of

24:08

time and meet the need , right

24:10

, because they're definitely feeling that they need to get that energy

24:12

out . We're not just ignoring the fact that they need something

24:14

. We're just kind of like puzzle

24:16

piecing around our activities , like if

24:19

you wanna play with the puppy , the puppy absolutely needs play

24:21

, but not during that time frame that it usually

24:23

loses its mind , right , like you have

24:25

to be super smart about what we're doing . So maybe that's

24:27

a crate time with the Pup-sicle or

24:29

something safe for them to that's high value

24:31

in the crate , right , so they have a break . Or

24:35

if it's like early in the morning when they just wake

24:37

up , like that's a good time to attempt

24:39

, you know , outside stuff where

24:41

it's hands off but they can still simulate , right

24:43

. So it's you know . I'd love to talk to Pitties

24:46

and Pals about this a little bit more in depth

24:48

and see what they've tried so far , because

24:50

the situation , I mean there's so many different possible

24:53

options .

24:54

Yeah , and bite inhibition

24:56

is really important .

24:57

It's really important .

24:58

And it's very consequential down the line of you

25:00

don't want an adult dog with adult

25:02

teeth in an adult situation where

25:04

maybe they're stressed out or somebody's scaring them

25:07

, where they don't have bite

25:09

inhibition , so they just give it all they

25:11

got , and what

25:13

should have been a warning snap is

25:15

a full on bite . And that's

25:17

a dog that never grew up with bite inhibition . So

25:20

it's on us to do the best we can to teach

25:22

it in lieu of their family .

25:24

Yep , that's the situation we're in . One other

25:26

thing I just thought of Pudge , our

25:28

own foster fail puppy . We've had

25:30

her since three weeks old . She

25:33

was biting the crap she was bad

25:35

for sharp teeth . Okay , Now

25:37

Lil Chihuahua mix , feisty little brat

25:39

lover to death . But what we actually

25:41

realized I

25:43

realized earlier on , but nobody was listening to me . I was

25:45

like there's something wrong , Her belly hurts

25:48

, it's distended . They tested her for

25:50

worms , but they didn't test for tapeworms

25:52

, which was not the most

25:54

likely . You know , usually tapeworms are rare .

25:58

Once they find out , I mean it should have been assumed in that

26:00

situation in hindsight , because they were

26:02

all flea infested . That's how tapeworms are

26:05

transmitted .

26:06

But you know they , I think they had tested once

26:08

and like maybe it didn't come up . And then as she got

26:10

a little bit older they grew . She

26:12

wound up having a very

26:14

large amount of tapeworms in her tiny

26:17

little three pound body . And

26:20

once we dewormed her she

26:22

actually was much , much better . So she was just

26:24

really uncomfortable . So even in this situation

26:26

, I always tell people , if your puppy is abnormally

26:29

feisty , abnormally like

26:31

quick to get nasty , we

26:34

have to look a little bit further , right ? If

26:37

they're in pain , if they're in discomfort , check the

26:40

teeth . Right now this puppy's a little bit early

26:42

to have teeth issues . But

26:44

I have another client whose puppy is

26:46

around six months and he's still biting them

26:48

like crazy , right . So we were on the phone the other day and I said can

26:51

you check his teeth for me ? Lo

26:53

and behold , he had a baby canine wedge between

26:55

two adult teeth and he

26:57

was in excruciating pain . So

27:00

I was like he needs to go to the vet . He needs to

27:02

get that pulled because

27:04

he's just pissed off all the time .

27:06

Did they pull it yeah ?

27:08

And I think he's doing a lot better now . So , like little

27:10

things like this that you like , there are those random

27:12

things . That's why when we do our trainings , we

27:15

look at the whole dog . I need I can't just say correct

27:17

this dog , right , he's not listening to the normal

27:19

training methods , right On nipping

27:21

like let's start correcting . No , I don't go that route

27:23

. We got to see , look at the whole thing . This is

27:25

like medical too . We have to make sure that they're

27:28

okay before we think that there's something

27:30

actually wrong with this dog . He just had a tooth that

27:32

was wedged and it's painful , right ? Just

27:34

imagine having a toothache all the time . So

27:36

I don't think that would necessarily

27:38

be the case for this 11 week old

27:40

puppy that's in foster , but it's

27:42

definitely worth a shot looking at the teeth and

27:45

making sure that everything looks okay .

27:47

Okay , yeah , I think that sums it up . Well

27:50

, I'm sure we'll be in touch with them about we'll clip

27:52

this and make it a real . Yeah , so they could see

27:54

it for sure . Cool , All right , that's

27:56

. We're going to do this in two parts .

27:58

Yes .

28:00

So that wraps up part one . Look for part two

28:02

Puppies , puppies , puppies , puppies . Part

28:05

two It'll be so I'll publish

28:07

this on Monday , because we're a little late this week , because

28:10

last week was insane .

28:11

You mean today ? Yes , but people don't

28:13

know what today is oh no , I was just asking for my own

28:15

puppy .

28:15

So this one part one will be Monday and we are going to

28:17

publish part two on Wednesday , like

28:20

we normally do . And

28:22

yeah , I

28:25

think that's it for this one . Should I do

28:27

a proper outro ? It doesn't feel right to do a proper

28:29

outro for just recording another

28:31

one right after it doesn't matter , I'll do a proper

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outro .

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