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Coming up on the Potter's Touch. Christ
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had come to do a new
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thing, but one
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cannot take new fabric and sew
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it to old fabric without there
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being a tear. And
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some of us are so afraid of
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a tear that we won't
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accept anything new. Sometimes
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we are loyal to a fault. Have
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you ever been loyal to a
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fault? All
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the loyal people say, Amen. Yeah,
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it takes something for you to
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break away even when you know
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you should break away because you
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are loyal to a fault. The
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Pharisees were loyal to a
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tradition and an ideology that
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was supposed to be expected
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of a Messiah, and yet
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when the Messiah comes, that
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which they expected, they rejected
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because they were loyal to
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Orthodoxy because when you are
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Orthodox, you are accepted. The
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word Orthodox is to be, is
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to fit in with that which
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is acceptable. And
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anytime you fall in love with
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fitting in, it becomes
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an idol in your life. Where
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the opinions of other people become
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more powerful to you than
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the Word of God itself. Jesus
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is the Word of God made flesh. He
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is the Word incarnate. He
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is the Word made physical. He
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is the Word made tangible. He
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is God revealed in human
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form. He is
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that which the Pharisees had studied.
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all of their lives. They were
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noted for being scholars and theologians
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and studying the Word of God.
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And here they are standing in
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front of the Word they studied
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and won't accept the Word that
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they studied because He has come
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in the flesh. The
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arts of Oran is staggering
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that the religious people actually
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gave Jesus more trouble than
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the sinners. It
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was the church people that called Him
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wine, remember. It was the church people
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that called Him Beelzebub. It was the
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church people that salvaged His theology. It
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was the church people that attacked
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Him. It was the church
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people because He came with
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new theology that threatened their
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orthodoxy. And if they gave
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up their orthodoxy, who would
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they be? Sometimes
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being somebody important to
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people becomes more
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important than being somebody
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obedient to God. The
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idolatry of it all is staggering.
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And Jesus speaks to
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them in parables because plain-out truth
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did not seem to get through
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to them. He called them a
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generation of hypocrites and vipers and
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they wouldn't accept that. So He
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started talking to them in parables
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in the hope that maybe they
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would see themselves in the text,
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that they would understand that they were
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all fabric, that
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they had lost the ability to
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stretch, to
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grow, to
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evolve, to move
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forward, to become. They
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were worn and withered and
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weary and stayed
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and stubborn and absolute
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and Christ had come to do
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a new thing. But
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one cannot take new fabric and new things.
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and show it to old fabric without
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there being a tear. And
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some of us are so afraid of a
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tear that we won't
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accept anything new because
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it might make the old
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uncomfortable. And
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whoever told you that God won't
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make you uncomfortable didn't know God
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because the God I know is
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disruptive. The God I
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know will make you uncomfortable. The
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God I know will wake you up
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at two o'clock in the morning. The God
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I know will have you facing the
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floor. The God I know will challenge
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your ideas. The God I know will
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call you out of the carpet. The
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God I know will confront you. The
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God I know will reveal you and
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make you see yourself. I
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am sick of prophets that can
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see everybody but themselves. If
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you got that kind of revelation,
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how come you don't see you?
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I see, I say, I
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see, I say, I see,
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see yourself. See
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yourself, see
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yourself. Get a
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revelation on yourself. Hallelujah
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to God. And
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the older I get, the quicker I am to tell you. Don't
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run up on me because I'll embarrass you
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because I'm not going to play along with
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few games. I'm not
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going to be slain if I'm not slain.
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I'm not going to fall out if I'm
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not falling out. I'm not going to give
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consent to something I don't agree with. I
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don't agree with it. And the Bible said
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that old fabric and new fabric did not
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agree. Sometimes you got to
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be bold enough to disagree. The
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problem today we have too many
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coward questions. You're
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coward, you want to get along with the
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culture. You want to be accepted by your
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friends. You want to be accepted by your
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peers. And you're not
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willing to stand out and
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be scandalized and ostracized. And
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yet you say, no, he slayed me. Yet
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shall I trust him. Do you really
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trust him? Do
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you trust him when people are talking
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about you? Do you trust him when
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people are scandalizing you? Do you trust
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him when you're dealing with uncertainty?
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Do you trust him when you
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have to be vulnerable? Do you
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trust him when you have to
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be transparent? Or
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are you a little bit new and a
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little bit old? And
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the trauma you deal with every day is that
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you are torn between
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the two. The
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you you are at work and
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the you you are at church. The
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you you are when you're with your boys
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and the you you are when you come in
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the sanctuary. There
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ought not to be two different yous. Hallelujah.
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The reason you don't have any peace is
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because there's too many of you standing in the
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same pair of shoes. One
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of the definitions of the word peace is
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to be at one again. To
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be one within yourself. The
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Bible said if the eye is single, the
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whole body is full of light.
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You can't get revelation until you
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get single. You talking
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about getting married and you ain't single
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yet. Oh
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mess with me, I dare you. I'll fight you in
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the air. You're not single.
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How can you get married when
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you're not single? You're
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still fragmented. You're still three
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quarters. You're still 5'16". You
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got to find wholeness. It's
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what the Bible calls singleness of heart.
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Singleness of heart brings peace. But
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it is not easy to have
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singleness of
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heart. Because
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there's always something pulling
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at you, drawing you,
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a gravitational pull to
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go backwards rather than
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forwards. I often
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say it, but it makes it no less true,
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you don't have to struggle to fall. All
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you have to do is let go. But
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if you're going to climb a tree, it's going
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to take some effort and some energy. When
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you get ready to fall, you don't need
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any energy, just let go. If you let
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go, you're going to fall. But if you
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hold on, you're going to go higher. But
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expect to sweat if you're going to go
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up. You're not going to go up just
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because you're worn up. You're going to have
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to put some work in it, some sweat
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in it, and grind. But
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all you have to do to fall is
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let go. And
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some of us are torn, should I
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hold on or
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should I let go? Should
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I endure or
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should I let go? Should
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I fight for it or
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should I just give in? And
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we dress it up with religious say, if the
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Lord wants me to have it, if
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the Lord meant for me to be
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there, he would open up. You blame
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God because you're lazy. I
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don't mean to make you mad tonight. You blame
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God for your love. You
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don't understand that there's some things that
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you have to put some work in
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it. Sometimes you have to stretch forth
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your rod. Sometimes you have to stretch
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forth a withered hand. Sometimes
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you have to give your two fish and
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five loaves of bread. And you're
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praying to feed the five thousand,
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but you're holding on to your
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lunch and you're torn between
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the two. How
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can you say the Scriptures don't work when you
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don't work them? Look
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at somebody and tell them it'll work if you're working.
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Yeah, it'll work if you're working every
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promise of God. It'll work if you're
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working. I've given you the land to
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possess it, but you still got to
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work it. Hallelujah, I'll give
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you houses that you didn't build, but
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you still got to move into it.
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It'll work if you're working. It
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don't work if you don't work it. To
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your steadfast, unmovable, always
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abounding, consistent.
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Consistent, consistent,
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consistency. Do
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you hear what I'm saying to you? You
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have to understand this, that if
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you're diligent, diligence will get you
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there. Oh
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yeah, you got to be diligent. You got to go
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after it. It'll get you there. But
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consistency will keep you there.
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And gratitude will give you more
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of what's there. So
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you have to be diligent to get
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there. You have to
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be consistent to stay there.
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And you have to be grateful to get everything
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out of being there. Some
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people get there, but they're not grateful. They
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get there, they got a bad attitude. They
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quit, they get there, and they got a
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bad disposition. But gratitude unlocks
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the fullness of where you're at.
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That's why the devil doesn't want you to be
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grateful. He wants you to be worried. He
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wants you to be worried. He can't
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stop you from being in a blessed
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place, but he wants you to be
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worried. So you're torn between being blessed
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and being worried. Oh, I'm going to
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get with you tonight. And
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you are torn between
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the two. As
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we prepare to offer up before
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God in the spirit of thanksgiving
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with a cheerfulness of heart
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and a purity of mind into
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Thy presence, we now come. Oh,
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oh, oh, you
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have been so good. I
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can't even explain how good you've been. You've
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been my everything, my
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everything. And as
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I lift up something before you, I
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realize that whatever I have given
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does not compare to your
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everything. But
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I want to have
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reciprocity. I
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cannot let you be this
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good to me while I
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ignore my responsibility to reciprocate
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back to you. I
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don't want to get torn. Let
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me show you what I'm talking about. I'm going
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to show you something. I'm going
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to show you something I have to run through now. Get your Bible.
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Go to John 3, Chapter 1 through 12. I'm
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going to show you what I mean. And I want you
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to take your religious glasses off and read
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the text like you never heard of it. because if you read
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it like you heard it, you're gonna miss it, right?
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Because we're not gonna read it with old
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skins. We're
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just gonna read it like we never read it. Now there
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was a man of Pharisees,
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of the Pharisees named Nicodemus,
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a ruler of
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the Jews. That
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same came to Jesus by
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night. He snuck
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to Jesus by
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night because he is
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a ruler of the
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Pharisees. The very folk of
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Jesus just got through fussing at it
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and said unto him, Rabbi, we
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know, new wine, that thou art
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a teacher, come
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from God. For no
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man can do these miracles that
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thou doeth except God be
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with him. And
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the moment he told Jesus he
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had new wine, Jesus
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told him, barely, barely I say
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unto you, you
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must be born again. Because
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if you're not born again, you cannot see the
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kingdom. You cannot have
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this kind of revelation and
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go back and play with the
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Pharisees. Come
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on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
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See, once you see
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who he is, you
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can't go back into blindness and act like
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you don't know what you know. So
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you can give up on being a secret
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agent for Jesus and
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coming by night to him, he
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said, I know you must be born again
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because you just showed me you got new wine.
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But where you came from is
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old skins. the
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demon says unto him, how can a man
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be born when he is old? Can
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he enter into the second time, enter
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the second time into his mother's womb
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and be born? We're dealing with skin.
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We're dealing with skin. And
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Jesus answered, very, very I said to you, accept
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a man be born of water
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and of spirit. He cannot enter
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into the kingdom of God. Cannot
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go in. That which
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is born of the flesh is flesh. And
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that which is born of the spirit is
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spirit. Marvel
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not that I said unto thee, ye
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must be born again. Hold
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it a minute. Ye must
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be born again. Jesus,
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wait a minute. He didn't ask you
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about being born again. He
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just told you that he knew
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that no man could do these things, save God
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be with him. And
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called you rabbi and
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said, I know that you are the truth. And
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Jesus says, you must be
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born again because you
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cannot hold revelation in
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old skin. Now
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Nicodemus is in a dilemma because
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does he go back to
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the skin and
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he is a ruler of the Pharisees.
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Or does he follow Jesus, which
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is the why? Jesus
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says to him, the wind bloweth, where
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it listeth and thou hearest the sound
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thereof, but canst not tell whence it
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come and whether it
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goeth, so is everyone that is
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born of the spirit. You're looking
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for physical stuff. I'm talking about
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spiritual stuff. Nicodemus
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answered and said unto him, how
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can these things be?
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Wait, Nicodemus did. and say,
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yes, Lord, I repent. Yes,
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Lord, I accept you. Yes, Lord,
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I believe. Yes, Lord, I
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follow you. Yes, Lord, I commit. He said,
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how can these things be? Jesus
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answered and said unto him, art
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thou a master of Israel? And
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knoweth not these things? Don't
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you study the word? Don't you know the
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word when you hear the word? Very,
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very, I say unto thee, we
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speak that we know, we
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do know, and testify that
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we have seen, and
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ye receive not
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our witness. If
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I told you earthly things and ye believe not,
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how should ye believe if I
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tell you heavenly things?
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So the
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thing that most scholars wrestle
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with is,
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yes, Jesus told Nicodemus he must be
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born again. But
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was he? I
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ain't going to bother you all tonight. Did
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you read anything in that
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text that
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says Nicodemus was
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born again? Did
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Jesus not say you received
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not what
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I gave you? So
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I'm not judging him. I
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don't know. All
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I know is that the Scriptures leave
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some ambiguity as
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if Nicodemus is torn. between
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the two. He
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is coming to see Jesus by
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night, but he's
20:08
hanging out with the Pharisees by
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day. And
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we don't hear anything
20:17
else about Nicodemus
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until the crucifixion. We
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don't see him at the miracles. We
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don't see him at the Last Supper. We
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don't see him when the woman with the issue of blood
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touched the hymn of his garment. We
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don't see him when he raised Jairus' daughter
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from the dead. We
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don't even see him when he's on
20:41
his way to the cross when blind
20:44
Bartimaeus cried out, Have
20:46
mercy on me thou son of David. Oh
20:48
that I might receive my sight. The
20:51
only thing we know for sure is
20:54
that Nicodemus is torn between
20:58
the two. And the
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question tonight, my brothers
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and sisters, is
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simply this. Did
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Nicodemus spend all of
21:11
his life torn
21:15
between the two? Unable
21:22
to respond. I
21:25
don't know. The
21:27
Bible doesn't make it clear. I
21:31
cannot find any
21:33
place where he
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obeyed what
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Jesus said. He
21:40
only heard what
21:44
Jesus said. And
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I want to know, do
21:49
you obey what
21:53
Jesus said? Or
21:55
do you only hear?
22:00
what Jesus had. And
22:03
if you hear it and
22:06
don't obey it, then
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what is your
22:12
Pharisee that
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keeps you torn
22:24
between the two? Was
22:27
it love that made him give the
22:31
hundred shekels or
22:34
guilt? I
22:40
cannot find a moment
22:45
that answers that
22:48
question. Are
22:51
you here because you love Jesus or
22:55
do you only come when you're guilty? And
23:04
the worst part of it is
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that he knew who
23:11
Jesus was. He
23:15
said no man can do these things save
23:18
God be with him. And Jesus says
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what you do with them Pharisees? Who
23:26
are your Pharisees? Who
23:32
is it that Jesus would ask how
23:34
could you know me like you know
23:36
me and
23:41
still stay with them? Vaily,
23:49
vaily I say unto you, you can't
23:51
know this much about me and not
23:53
be born again. You can't
23:56
take this new wine. and
24:00
put it in old skin? You're
24:03
watching me right now? How
24:06
can you know what you
24:08
know and
24:10
still run with who you run with? Has
24:19
the seduction of
24:22
being accepted by the Pharisees rivaled
24:27
the revelation of
24:29
what you know about
24:33
Jesus? And
24:36
are you just torn
24:41
between the two? So
24:49
let a man examine himself. Where
24:55
are your Pharisees? Who
25:00
would Jesus be shocked to
25:04
see that you
25:06
can't separate from to
25:10
be with Him? How
25:16
long will you have new
25:18
wine? In
25:23
old skin? Because
25:32
if you really know who
25:36
Jesus is, very,
25:40
very, I
25:42
stand to you. He
25:45
must be
25:48
born again. No
25:51
ifs, no ass, no maybes, no
25:53
choices. You
25:55
know too much. You've
25:57
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