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to days outfit he is what's happening
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in the world for Friday April Twenty
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six. The. Head of
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Australia's pick Mental Health Body has
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resigned over what he is labeling
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the album easy government inaction. Matt
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Berryman, a former professional cricketer and
1:14
businessmen, was appointed to Mental Health
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is Trail Years top role in
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December Twenty Twenty One But as
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quit in protest sang, not Enough
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is being done. Mental health services
1:25
have been struggling to cope with
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demand. After the pandemic forced people
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into long isolation periods that harmed
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well being. Mister Berryman took aim
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at the government's approach to mental.
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Health saying it was in adequately
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funded and was not given the
1:39
attention it deserved. Health Minister Mark
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Butler said the government would continue
1:43
to work closely with the sector
1:46
and reform wouldn't happen overnight. Former
1:48
National Enquirer a publisher David Pekka
1:50
has testified at Donald Trump's criminal
1:52
trial that he worked out a
1:54
deal that would allow Trump to
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by the silence of a former
1:58
Playboy model. Pekka said
2:00
he signed an agreement with Trump's personal
2:02
lawyer, Michael Cohen, to assign the rights
2:04
to the model's story to a shell
2:06
company that would hide the fact that
2:08
Trump was paying for it. However,
2:11
the deal was called off after Pekka
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spoke with a company lawyer. Pekka is
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a key witness in the case against
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the former US President, who was accused
2:19
of falsifying business records to cover up
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a hush money payment to Stormy Daniels,
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who said she had a sexual encounter
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with Trump. Police
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say Pekka, who has not been
2:30
charged with a crime, engaged in
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conspiracy with Trump and Cohen to
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corrupt the 2016 election by suppressing
2:36
unflattering stories that might hurt Trump's
2:38
reputation. New York's highest
2:41
court has overturned the 2020
2:43
sex crimes conviction of former
2:45
Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein. The
2:48
state court of appeals said the trial
2:50
judge made a mistake by letting prosecutors
2:53
introduce testimony from women who claimed that
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Weinstein assaulted them even though they were
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not part of the charges he faced.
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Weinstein has been serving a 23-year prison
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sentence after being convicted in February 2020
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of sexually assaulting a former production assistant
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in 2006 and raping an aspiring actress
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in 2013. Last
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year he was separately sentenced to 16 years in
3:15
prison after being convicted of the 2013
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rape of an actress in Los Angeles. It
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will now be up to the Manhattan District Attorney
3:22
Alvin Bragg to decide whether to
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retry Weinstein in court. The
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2020 verdict was considered a milestone
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for Me Too in which women
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have accused hundreds of men in
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entertainment, media, politics and many other
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fields of sexual misconduct. The
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famous windmill atop the Moulin Rouge
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has fallen to the ground alongside
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letters from its name. The
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general manager of the iconic Cabaret Club said it
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was the first time in its 135-year history
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to happen. The Moulin Rouge,
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founded in 1889,
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became a global symbol of end-of-the-century
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Parisian culture. Its Kancan dancers widely depicted in
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the film are the first to have a look at the world paintings by
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avant-garde artists of the era. Nowadays
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the audience is largely made up of tourist
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groups who have, since the incident, lined the
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streets with locals to view the scene. Local
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residents who heard the news on the radio
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rushed to witness what had happened with some
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saying it's very sad. It's not the Moulin
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Rouge anymore. It's lost its wings. It's lost
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its soul. A spokesperson for the Moulin Rouge
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said the theatre would investigate the cause of
4:23
the incident with experts and insurers. It
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occurred at 2am with no one on the boulevard so
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there were no injuries. That's
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your latest news headlines. Next we're
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talking about the fashion revolution that
4:35
is method dressing. While
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a movie only takes about two hours
4:48
to watch, the average movie takes about
4:51
five years to make. That
4:53
spans quite a few stages
4:55
of the process from writing,
4:57
pitching, finding the funding, pre-production,
4:59
filming, post-production and then finally
5:01
premiering. So there is a
5:03
lot of pressure to get people to see a
5:06
movie and make back some, if not more, of
5:08
the money it costs to actually make it. The
5:11
PR push of a movie or series
5:13
coming out spans social media, billboards, buses,
5:16
but some projects have gone to extreme lengths
5:18
to get their project out in the world.
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Remember the 1999 cult classic The
5:23
Blair Witch Project? I'm scared to close my
5:25
eyes. I'm scared
5:28
to open them. The
5:34
film had a total budget of $35,000 so the
5:36
team went to some extraordinary lengths, making
5:40
a fake missing poster featuring three
5:42
of the actors and spreading the
5:44
narrative that the footage making up
5:46
the entire movie had been discovered
5:48
after three student filmmakers searching for
5:51
the so-called Blair Witch Project disappeared
5:53
in the woods of rural Maryland.
5:56
Controversial or not, it seemed to work as
5:58
the movie made 200... $148
6:01
million worldwide and earned its place in
6:03
the Guinness Book of World Records for
6:05
the highest box office proceeds to
6:07
budget ratio in film history.
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There are many PR stunts littered
6:14
throughout Hollywood, including Jackass stars peeing
6:17
on red carpets ahead of Jackass
6:19
2 premiering. The
6:21
2005 horror movie House of Wax lent
6:23
heavily on their casting of Paris Hilton,
6:26
even though she died one hour into
6:28
the film, so the PR team made
6:30
t-shirts that said, See Paris Time. Or
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Joaquin Phoenix, who appeared on Letterman claiming to
6:35
be giving up his acting career to pursue
6:38
music. But you are, you're not going to
6:40
act anymore? No. Why
6:43
is it? I don't know. A
6:48
year later, director Kasey Affleck admitted it
6:51
was all for their mockumentary, I'm still
6:53
here. And
6:55
unless you were living under a rock,
6:58
the PR team behind Barbie made sure
7:00
that every company, every product, every bus,
7:02
bench, or just any surface could in
7:04
some way be turned pink. Mattel
7:07
has over 100 licensing partners selling
7:09
Barbie merchandise, and much of it
7:11
isn't for kids at all. From
7:13
clothing at the Gap, to sold
7:15
out pink plastic heels at Aldo,
7:17
Barbie, Clog Crocs, beauty products and
7:19
tools at Ulta, to rugs, and
7:22
so much more. But the
7:24
most impressive moments of Barbie Core
7:26
were the iconic looks worn by
7:28
Margot Robbie across the whole press
7:31
tour. Robbie's stylist, Andrew Mukumal, leaning
7:33
into the phenomenon defined as method
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dressing. A technique that
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combines fashion and performance, where an
7:39
actor or creative wears outfits or
7:42
elements to reference the film or
7:44
their character. Production
7:46
teams finding a way to extend a
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project's cinematic universe onto the red carpet.
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In the case of Barbie, not only
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did Margot Robbie arrive at events in
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a life-sized version of Barbie's pink convertible,
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we saw her in multiple vintage outfits.
8:00
made life-size including a Versace made
8:02
version of the 1985 Day-to-Night Barbie
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and a Vivian Westwood recreation of the
8:08
Enchanted Evening Gown from the 1960s. We
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know she transforms into Barbie on
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screen but she's also transformed herself
8:15
into real-life Barbie on the
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global press tour with look after
8:19
look inspired by iconic dolls. It's
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not plastic it's fantastic. The
8:26
experts have tried to trace back the
8:28
origins as to when method dressing first
8:30
appeared on red carpets. With some arguing
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it was first seen when Blake Lively
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opted for a series of power dressing
8:36
looks for the launch of the film
8:38
A Simple Favour. Making headlines
8:40
just this month are the tennis themed
8:42
red carpet outfits Zendaya is sporting for
8:44
her latest film Challenges. We get so
8:47
lucky to be a part of films
8:49
with with such like rich references anyway
8:51
so might as well just like pull
8:53
from that. But this isn't the first
8:56
time Zendaya has method dressed. She
8:58
and her stylist Laura Roach have been method
9:00
dressing since the 2017 film
9:02
The Greatest Showmen. You may have seen
9:04
some of her iconic looks earlier this
9:06
year for June 2 in which Roach
9:08
said they adopted method dressing for these
9:11
looks too. The looks serve as an
9:13
extension of the wardrobe from the movie.
9:15
It was intentional and purposeful. So
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is method dressing just part and parcel with
9:21
a press tour or a fashion statement to
9:24
honor the creatives of the film? Or
9:26
is it both? Fashion writer
9:28
and commentator Glynis Trail Nash thinks we'll see
9:31
method dressing more and more. Glynis when we
9:33
look at a celebrity on the red carpet
9:35
and we see their outfit how many people
9:37
are involved in creating that look?
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I mean I guess it depends on the
9:42
star but generally there is a key stylist
9:44
that will likely be working with that star
9:47
on a regular basis. So they'll have a
9:49
really good understanding of what they like, what
9:51
suits them, all of that kind of thing.
9:53
And then there's obviously the relationships with the
9:55
fashion brands. Now if you've got a star
9:58
that is under a contract
10:00
for example with a fashion house then wearing
10:04
that house for the duration of awards
10:09
season for example. That's kind of the main thing but then you've obviously
10:11
got your glam squad, you've got your hair and makeup, you've got all
10:13
of that. I mean whenever people sort of post things on Instagram with
10:15
their glam team like, how many people? What
10:18
are some of your favorite iconic red carpet looks? It
10:20
can be Met Gala or it can be a film
10:22
premiere but what sort of jumps to mind when you
10:25
think of, oh that's a great look. Oh
10:27
do you know what I do still think of the
10:29
heyday of Nicole Kidman in that
10:31
Chatea's Dior by John Galliano years ago
10:33
with the sort of the chinoiserie effect
10:36
because no one wears chatea either. I
10:38
mean it's such a weird color but
10:40
I do love it when it's done
10:42
right. So that's always been a highlight
10:44
and also the cape lance
10:46
ship. I think it was another Oscar's dress
10:49
and it was the Jean-Paul Gaultier and it
10:51
had the embroidered hummingbirds and things down the
10:53
back. So from the front it's just this
10:55
very plain black dress and you sort of
10:57
turn around and it's got this script back
10:59
with all this beautiful embroidery on. It's just
11:01
lush. From your point of view in
11:03
the fashion world, how would you
11:05
describe method dressing? I mean it's
11:07
like method acting isn't it? You've got to live
11:09
the character all the time to really
11:11
immerse yourself in the character. And so
11:14
that's exactly what they're doing but on
11:16
the red carpet. They're fully immersing themselves
11:18
in this world, in this character perhaps,
11:21
to extend the
11:23
visual narrative of what they've been
11:25
working on. I don't mind a bit
11:27
of method dressing occasionally. I think, oh cute, yeah
11:29
of course not to your film. Great.
11:31
Sometimes it can be incredibly effective
11:34
and I think other times I
11:37
question why because depending on the
11:39
character obviously and the theme of
11:41
the film, we've got a few
11:44
very relevant examples. I
11:46
mean Zendaya currently with the challenges tennis
11:49
themed film and then recently
11:51
Barbie. For me, Barbie
11:53
got a bit boring. Interesting. After
11:55
About the third time of Margot
11:57
Robbie in a Barbie pink outfit.
12:00
I'm. A little bit like have we not
12:02
got another surprise he have we not
12:04
got something different to stay here you
12:06
are so I'm Brand but it's a
12:08
bit dull now. So. I
12:10
wouldn't know when they are. I
12:12
guess emanating the world is this
12:15
creatively where's it going from cause
12:17
play to. Costume.
12:19
Character to session. It.
12:21
Can get a because play when you
12:24
look at it. From assassin perspective, Outrage
12:26
Assassin is fantastic. I'm here for it's
12:28
sometimes it can be ridiculous. I'm also
12:30
here for that. I think this notion
12:33
of you wearing fasten and fasten wearing
12:35
you and I think cross that line
12:37
too fast and wearing you or costume.
12:39
where are you and it doesn't feel
12:42
natural. All of those things kind of
12:44
come into play here. and that's when
12:46
I think it's just costume and that
12:49
doesn't feel true to the person It
12:51
may. Feel true to a publicist or of
12:53
Mayfield true to a costume design. About how
12:55
you guys that have been some of the
12:58
most ridiculous as moments. that mean we have
13:00
to talk about the beard phone moment at
13:02
the Oscars this year. the Minute with Gold.
13:04
I loved that so much and at the
13:06
costuming but he wasn't plugging it to anything
13:09
like it wasn't a line for that, he
13:11
was his beard having a bit of a
13:13
long as he likes to. Does.
13:15
This stuff exist in the bubble of
13:18
Just When The film. Is premiering.
13:20
Or. Do we actually see any sessions in
13:22
the real world take influence? Them is
13:24
like is their allies Sir Bobby and
13:26
still today in what way. Wearing or
13:28
are we saying big sleeve because of
13:30
poor things like is anything that we
13:32
can draw from potentially popping down his
13:34
are and saying something. Absolutely it's a
13:36
tried and true things I mean bobby call
13:39
with the most obvious follow me around seventy
13:41
with during pink a room with wearing pink
13:43
body toll booth up things with a capital
13:45
say sir absolutely we say that filter through.
13:48
I think we will see tennis good for
13:50
example and maybe you know some not Vallejo
13:52
get another it's as a few nights things
13:54
like that. I mean I do think come
13:57
European summer we'll be seeing a bit of
13:59
bass. The or let's talk about
14:01
Sunday are and challenges as well as working
14:03
with law. Roach a personal. Stylist
14:05
for many years has done june
14:07
two what as some the conversations
14:09
happening in the fashion world about
14:11
her becoming. I. Guess the unofficial
14:13
queen of Method dressing. See the
14:16
interesting because and I'm and listen I
14:18
guess passivity between her and law right?
14:20
So there was the work, something a
14:22
lot of things together I mean the
14:25
doing stuff particularly for me that really
14:27
hasn't and sceptically cutting edge fashion happening
14:29
so I find that that was exciting
14:31
because it with message dressing but it
14:33
was most the mess it up and
14:35
carried does. So. Because it with
14:38
a sigh heist film you could really poor
14:40
specially into an avid god territories and that
14:42
was interesting and you didn't know what it
14:44
was ever going to be. I'm in a
14:47
lot that metallic body through she wore that
14:49
was great from the archive for example. I
14:51
mean yea and then she kind of keeps
14:53
you on your toes while met the dressing
14:56
with the think something that Bobby did not
14:58
do. The entire for doing is
15:00
very forward looking at. very avant garde. It's
15:02
very cussing into the nights. There is still
15:04
a sense of anticipation with her around that
15:06
and I think that's probably the key. When.
15:09
We look at something like Miley Cyrus
15:11
at the Grammys and Sea Hunt. Like
15:13
the big hair and a glance. really
15:15
really it's hard Beautiful thing that we
15:17
then new a certain amount of time
15:19
later that that was leaning into a
15:21
film clip that was about to come
15:23
out. Is it still Method Dressing is
15:25
that teasing sort of Easter Eggs that
15:27
we don't even know ways to exit?
15:30
Oh yeah, I mean in a
15:32
lot of ways I think it's almost
15:34
more clever and I guess it's more
15:36
music related because music it feels like
15:38
a fast a process that kind of
15:40
plant the seed. I think an edge
15:42
on about. Where's he going
15:44
with these? What does she can do And then
15:46
you kind of makes you whites to the revealed.
15:49
So I think it does build anticipation and especially
15:51
when it's a bit of a departure. now
15:53
when there is a film or series
15:55
coming out or a new album is
15:58
it an expectation that they're going to
16:00
do something method dressing or that is
16:02
going to be something that surprises us.
16:04
Is the normal PR just not cutting
16:06
it anymore that this is the level up
16:08
that we need to be doing? Well that's
16:10
a very good question and there's probably a lot
16:12
of truth in it but maybe that is the
16:15
case. I hope not always.
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I think when you do it
16:19
well, you do it judiciously, it
16:21
can be incredibly effective. Overdo it
16:23
or it becomes an expectation broadly,
16:25
that kind of doubles the effect
16:27
a bit. If
16:31
you also love fashion you can listen to
16:33
our podcast Nothing To Wear hosted by Leigh
16:35
Campbell. There's a link in the show notes.
16:38
This episode of The Quickie is produced
16:40
by myself Grace Rouvray and Taylor Strano
16:43
with audio production by Tom Lyon. you
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