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as daily news podcast the Quickie. Recently.

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In or Instagram T M's we saw

0:53

this message from Sally what's the go

0:55

with the M H T estrogen patch

0:57

shortage at the moment? Not long after

1:00

that, a discussion started on Mama, a

1:02

sister podcast Mama Me Out Loud Facebook

1:04

page of women scared that they too

1:06

are struggling to get a of the

1:09

medication to deal with symptoms associated with

1:11

Perry Maniples And Maniples. Today we try

1:13

to unravel why there's a shortage in

1:15

patches and other Hrt medications, and whether

1:18

that's likely to continue or if there's

1:20

relief. In sight but first easy

1:22

News headlines for Tuesday May Seven.

1:25

Com. Os has announced that they will

1:27

accept a ceasefire proposal brokered by jeeps

1:29

and and Qatari mediators, but Israelis unhappy

1:31

with the terms. Just hours before the

1:34

Hamas decision, Israel had ordered Palestinians to

1:36

evacuate the southern town of Rafah, leading

1:38

many to believe that a ground attack

1:41

on the city way more than one

1:43

million Palestinians had sought shelter from the

1:45

Israeli bombardment was imminent. Israeli officials say

1:48

no ceasefire has been agreed upon in

1:50

Gaza, pointing out that the proposal that

1:52

Hamas has accepted was a softened version.

1:55

Of an Egyptian proposal which include far

1:57

reaching conclusions that Israel could nordic that,

1:59

the official went on to claim that

2:01

the Hamas acceptance of this deal would

2:03

appear. To be a ruse. Intended to

2:06

make Israel look like the side refusing

2:08

a deal. The Melvin private school where

2:10

a spreadsheet was circulating writing the attractiveness

2:12

of female students say they've referred the

2:14

issue to police because of some of

2:17

the terms used to describe the girls

2:19

displayed seat use terms like why fees,

2:21

cuties, the gills The boys who compiled

2:23

the least like that. For some they

2:26

use the word unripe herbal Sierra Valley

2:28

Grammars principal Mark married telling the A

2:30

B C. The reference to sexual violence

2:32

led them to refer to Method to

2:34

Police before suspending. Three male students who are

2:37

believed to have compiled the offensive least Miss

2:39

Ameri says police have yet to state whether

2:41

they'll be pursuing the masses, but they are

2:43

meeting with students in the parents of the

2:45

girls whose names. Appear in the document to

2:47

offer support. Donald Trump has

2:49

been find a further one thousand dollars for

2:52

violating the gag order imposed on him by

2:54

the Jones It Is Hush Money trial. The

2:56

former President went on to a program called

2:58

Just The News No Noise on April twenty

3:00

two. Or he said about his

3:02

case. The jury was picked so fast

3:04

ninety five percent Democrats, the areas mostly

3:06

all democrats Trump had been ordered not

3:09

to discuss anyone connected to the trial

3:11

publicly. The John saying in his ruling,

3:13

the comments not only call into question

3:15

the integrity and therefore the legitimacy of

3:17

the proceedings that again raised the specter

3:19

of fee for the safety of the

3:21

jurors and their loved ones. Judge Medicine

3:23

said the defendant is he by a

3:26

put on notice that is. Appropriate

3:28

and warranted. Any future violation

3:30

of the gag order will be

3:32

punishable by incarceration. Ozzy

3:34

singer Kylie Minogue has wrapped up her

3:37

says Las Vegas residency. The there

3:39

are reports they want her back for

3:41

another stance and maybe even for life

3:43

minority Delphi residency. The. Venue Voltaire in

3:45

November. Twenty Twenty Three in support. of

3:47

has sixteen studio album tensions quickly becoming

3:50

a must see for those visiting the

3:52

city the sun reported that clearly had

3:54

been offered a residency for life by

3:56

the nightclub boss michael group us when

3:58

she could come and go based on

4:01

her schedule. The newspaper claiming Gruber knows

4:03

he's onto something golden so he's put

4:05

the offer on the table for Kylie to

4:07

consider. With a new album coming out and

4:09

Kylie telling the crowd in her final Vegas

4:11

show that performing there had exceeded all her

4:14

expectations, there's rumours she will return for another

4:16

stint in Vegas starting at the end of

4:18

2025. That's

4:20

the latest from the Quickie Newsroom next. We

4:22

find out why so many Australian women have

4:24

been told their hormone replacement therapy medication is

4:26

no longer available and whether that's something we

4:29

just have to get used to. Before

4:40

the 1960s, women suffering from the

4:42

associated symptoms of menopause or

4:44

perimenopause had little in the way of

4:46

options to treat it. Women had to

4:48

just grin and bare those hot flushes, night

4:51

sweats, mood swings and all the other fun

4:53

things that come with their body's decision to

4:55

stop producing the same levels of the hormone

4:57

estrogen. Some

5:00

cultures in the past have tried to help

5:02

alleviate women's suffering. Native Americans, for

5:04

example, used blood cohosh to treat

5:06

menopausal symptoms while other ancient cultures

5:09

used other natural remedies including alfalfa,

5:11

maca, oak, sage, red clover and

5:13

star anise to help soothe a

5:15

woman's journey through the change. In

5:20

the mid-1800s, British doctors were

5:22

prescribing carbonated soda, belladonna plasters

5:24

on the stomach, yes, the

5:26

deadly nightshade plant, acetate of

5:29

lead injections directly into the

5:31

vagina and even prescriptions for

5:33

opium and cannabis. Over

5:35

the millennia there have been pulverised cow

5:38

ovaries, testicular juices and all kinds of

5:40

offerings to women to try and help.

5:42

But it wasn't until the 1930s that science led them

5:45

to hormone replacement therapy. The

5:49

first of this type of drug to

5:51

hit the chemist's shelves used the urine

5:53

of pregnant women which was wildly expensive

5:56

to manufacture. In 1941 A cheaper

5:58

version was created. Harvested

6:00

a year and of young pregnant Mais which

6:02

would become one of the most widely prescribed

6:04

drugs in the Us at the time. The.

6:07

Accompanying ad campaigns promised a tasteless an

6:09

odorless drugs would not only give symptomatic

6:11

release that a sense of wellbeing. One

6:14

ad shows a smiling woman next to

6:16

a group of men with the lines

6:18

keeper. This a. Synthetic.

6:21

A certain therapy gain traction in the

6:23

nineteen sixties. But. A two thousand

6:25

and two study by the Women's Health

6:27

Initiative revealed the combination of non bio

6:30

identical hormones could actually increase the woman's

6:32

risk for breast cancer, heart attack, and

6:34

stroke which put many women off of

6:37

turning to a taxi. When they were in

6:39

need. To. Use like. An

6:41

investigation into the Wh I study found

6:43

some of the risks had been overestimated.

6:45

New funding suggesting the women aged fifty

6:48

to fifty nine were actually at a

6:50

lower risk of heart disease and stroke

6:52

when I used a taxi. There

6:55

are many options now available to

6:57

women to treat menopausal symptoms or

6:59

oh, template skyn patches still sprays

7:01

combinations depending on whether a woman.

7:03

Has had her uterus removed or not. That.

7:05

The Mrs we hearing from many of the

7:07

women is it some of those options and

7:10

now no longer available. I've

7:12

been told by three different chemists companies that

7:14

this is a worldwide shortage of go. Free

7:17

he or more only. Stocks on so

7:19

these what's left and women are having to

7:21

switch. To gel was I'm bloody scared

7:23

will run out of stock down the

7:25

trap too. annoying today as I found

7:27

out my Hrc medication is no longer

7:29

on the Pbs and there's a shortage.

7:32

The touches a new your own impossible to get

7:34

now in Perth of I was advised to. Switch.

7:36

To gel or that this shortage wouldn't happen

7:38

with by ago. I. Was on sixty

7:40

milligrams had says thought my Gp bump me

7:43

up to seventy five milligrams two. Months ago.

7:45

I am yet to find a box

7:47

of these for love know money's samosas.

7:49

say the word from the manufacturer is

7:52

long term unavailable. City

7:57

Dirty his Executive director. These. The

8:00

Nepal Society Vp. How long as they

8:02

showed it's been going on for it seems to be

8:04

affecting my sleeve. Be a sad see patches.

8:06

That has been going on for a

8:08

while now. The current stories has been

8:10

going on for some time at least

8:12

pick from have yet to twelve months

8:14

but there has been shortages patches or

8:17

it's a big nice going back probably.

8:19

Ten years and. Can. You explain

8:21

why that happens and if there are

8:23

shortages regularly, why isn't something being done

8:25

to stop that? The. Most recent

8:28

shortage is she to a

8:30

number of different factors. In

8:33

the past it was mainly. Chewed. Manufacturing

8:35

issues by queen potentially as

8:37

sick might be coming out

8:40

and a product or the

8:42

heat. Said the has to then throw it all

8:44

away so they can be little things in the supply

8:46

chain that. Disrupts supply but this

8:48

current shortage this a number

8:50

of factors going on. The

8:53

first thing that is that the

8:55

has been an increase in such

8:57

a t prescription says global demand

8:59

has. Gone up quite a loss

9:02

say countries around the world are actually

9:04

suffering shortages because the fast and then

9:06

in Australia actually that's worldwide scale. Camara,

9:09

which was one of the patches has

9:11

been discontinued for a number of women

9:13

would have been taking that patch and

9:16

men have had to move to. A

9:18

different brand of patch for increasing

9:20

their demands. On that as well.

9:22

And then there's just manufacturing issues as I

9:25

mentioned before that also come into the next

9:27

I wickets. He had since like three

9:29

different issues. That are going on at the moment

9:31

that are causing the current shortage. Is.

9:33

Awesome women saying that potentially they brand is

9:35

a tough he patches been taken off the

9:37

Pbs. Is that something that's been happening? Knives

9:40

or Climber. I was discontinued

9:43

altogether, but at the moment

9:45

Esther.and a stylist. And

9:47

estrogen are on the Pbs

9:50

but a sponsor of extra.has.

9:52

Not. been able to in short supply

9:54

said the government has granted and the

9:56

six and nineteen i which allows him

9:58

to import another patch called Estramon.

10:01

However, that patch is not available

10:03

on the PBS. So if women

10:05

cannot get Estradot and aren't getting

10:07

Estradot instead, then they can't access

10:09

it on the PBS. How

10:11

long do we predict this particular shortage is going

10:14

to go on for? I know some women have

10:16

been told by pharmacists that it could be up

10:18

to a year before supplies are back at any

10:20

decent level. Is that what you're seeing? Look,

10:23

we just don't know that the

10:25

sponsor is getting updates from the

10:27

overseas manufacturer quite regularly and at

10:29

given dates, but then they just

10:31

keep getting pushed out. So we're

10:34

not too sure when supply is going to go

10:37

back to normal, but I can't say if

10:39

it's going to take a year. I'm not

10:41

sure where that figure's coming from. What

10:44

do we say to women then who are

10:46

going into the pharmacy and panicking because they

10:48

can't get their hands on that treatment? Are

10:50

there other options they can reach for? Yeah,

10:52

it's really awful for a lot of women

10:54

when they can't get their medications. So

10:57

the pharmacist is allowed to

10:59

distribute Estramone in replace of

11:02

Estradot and also their doctor

11:04

can prescribe that as well. There

11:06

is a little bit of paperwork to do

11:08

for it, which can be a bit

11:10

of a barrier for pharmacists, but there's

11:12

that other patch option. Then there are

11:14

also oral tablets that women

11:16

can take, but not every woman can take

11:18

oral tablets. There's also gels. There's

11:21

one gel that's actually on the PBS and

11:23

one that's not. So they can go back

11:25

to their doctor and get their script changed.

11:28

So the suggestion is to go to your GP and just

11:30

check what the right option might be for you in

11:32

an alternative sense. That's correct, yes,

11:35

because every woman's different. These

11:38

shortages seem to come

11:40

along at the same time as there's

11:42

shortages in a lot of other medications.

11:44

Is there any kind of link between

11:46

say the type 2 diabetes medications we

11:49

saw a shortage in antibiotics

11:51

at one stage? Why do we keep

11:53

seeing these worldwide shortages of drugs that

11:55

really just that supply can't keep up

11:57

with demand? A lot of it is done.

12:00

The aftermath of crazy winds, all the

12:02

distractions to the supply chain name in

12:04

this still trying to get back to

12:06

normal in a lot of ways that

12:09

is shortages. On an office. Medications

12:11

all the time. The T G I

12:13

has a really good website. Lady can

12:15

actually look up a database to save

12:18

his shortages of particular medications. But

12:20

it's usually assessed as I is

12:22

the slaves supply chain sheath and

12:24

or fi increased demand for lock

12:26

up with so with I think

12:29

it's that was an increasing demands

12:31

that water shortages. The

12:34

manufacturing issues that a contributing to the

12:36

shortage of Hrt patches in Australia have

12:38

not been made clear by the companies

12:41

who make them. They have been reports

12:43

that suggests supply chain issues which could

12:45

include travel sourcing the main ingredients typically

12:47

soya beans or sweet potatoes, but with

12:50

at least two of the only for

12:52

available brands on pharmacy shelves in Australia,

12:54

experiencing these shortages added to the increasing

12:56

demands. Now that women feel more secure

12:58

and asking for and using I taught

13:01

see with those old claims having been

13:03

debunked about sixty. Is causing major

13:05

headache for the women. Always

13:07

when it comes to eating medical, speak to your

13:09

Gp if you're worried about your medication being in

13:12

short supply and will pop the linked to the

13:14

T V I Medicine Shortage Reports database in the

13:16

summer nights if you want to set to see.

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