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After. All everything has a history. It

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rabbit hole you're prepared to go. And

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at the end of it all on

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December lead voice pronounces a winner hello

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again weapon early as. I got a

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cat. Has you eat been? Very

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good right? Yes, I do look forward to

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these are a bit of a high point

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bars. Being. Assertive last minute

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swat that I am, it's was quite relief

1:37

when the recordings over to be honest, because

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I can sort of instantly forget all these

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facts that, ah, Yes, I know when.

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Yeah, I know that last minute semi. Mild

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the suddenness things I levels and

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he had an. End of

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the a test today actually and he was

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sort of cramming last minute tonight. Call them

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and I said well, I'm coming months he's

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A that's why I get it from mom.

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Ninety. My voice of reason. it's not awesome,

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fools me, but this is a thing I

2:04

learned when I was doing my undergraduate degree.

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Don't. Revise the day,

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Before. Just don't do

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it. Or. You'll do is

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make so anxious either. Got

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zero percent. Of

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as I say I didn't at the day for

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i get up at to i am on the

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day or the exam and just cram it and

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a memory catch tighthead I noticed any test intelligence

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involved in mice I'm as just rico. I

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think it's to that kinda for my

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eyes find it helps me calm down

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assume a confidence because otherwise i worry

2:35

about little bit to be there for

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costs in and if i. If

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I can see like I've got those just

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oh thats nice little bits I so much

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my consent don't into at site and relax.

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And then the other stuff. So if I don't do that,

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Reminds you of mixing in. I wrote

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Los Ang so. He loves anxiety because I

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see like I need those. This will fit.

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To. Such as does make me feel. Like.

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Multiple that that an injustice Differently Black

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sea anemones. Like now we're trying a spider

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plant said the was occurs in and it

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catches in the bowl at the bottom and

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then it soon gone. From

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my house is as run spider plants but

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the process signs that she'd do graphic other

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than they have babies yeah one. Of many

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they demanded a nice had enough to do something with them

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as he. Along and I'm selling my

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department. of

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someone says. Harvest when sports presenter

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to do with her. Nose is

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taken from Rome. Give them to people

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like it so have you bring us

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insight. Richard Outset I had to just

3:36

stop myself from gives Lane your topic

3:38

this week because I won't spoil their

3:41

excitement and have really excited to learn

3:43

about the exploding well of Oregon. Exploding

3:46

will ever. Sit. With

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me a few ways to

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the Pacific Northwest of America

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to the great state of

3:55

Oregon which boasts among it's

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many sides features the largest.

4:00

Answer: Sand Dunes In North America?

4:02

This is near wealth, a little

4:04

town of Florence recorded a sissy

4:07

be Diode America of the women

4:09

to people As the city's Florence

4:11

hasn't made it into a wider

4:14

public consciousness twice, but animal significantly

4:16

than in November Nineteen Seventy. When

4:19

when if ever the ninth nineteen seventy

4:22

the people of Florence gonna open to

4:24

the door for walk in the dunes

4:26

in the morning and found the horror

4:28

an enormous sperm whale. Dead.

4:31

And. Beached. It was

4:33

forty five feet long, and

4:35

it weighed eight tones. The.

4:39

Sun had risen and

4:41

the naturals. Effects of

4:43

the composition we're beginning to be in evidence

4:46

but it soon became obvious of this is

4:48

a problem that needed dealing with. Now you

4:50

might think Oregon would be as you think

4:52

we gotta live in a beach in Oregon.

4:54

Speech wells might be a regular occurrence for

4:56

know the loss when I don't remember Have

4:58

done nineteen ten so they have this forty

5:00

five for donate some. Beached. Sperm

5:03

whale beginning to decompose and smell

5:05

on the beach at Oregon. What's

5:07

to? Well, Those days the

5:09

beaches came to the jurisdiction of the Oregon

5:11

Highways Department to somebody from them up and

5:14

said we got a beached whale. New Florence

5:16

could you come and deal with it I

5:18

suggest would suspend the chief engineer so they

5:20

find the chief engineer but unfortunately he was

5:23

away hunting. For the Deputy

5:25

Chief Edge, their mental George Thornton was

5:27

at home so they called him and

5:29

he came down to the beach a

5:32

new cells a him to sort out

5:34

the problem of what do with this

5:36

enormous stinking decomposing eight tongue forty five

5:38

foot long beached sperm whale. Now very

5:41

very schools of thought about this but

5:43

of course it was such an unusual

5:45

occurrence p Source outside the box and

5:47

he phoned up a friend who'd been

5:50

in the Navy and the guy see

5:52

what you need is dynamite and ninety

5:54

was with it's Windsor tied came in

5:56

that you would place dynamite under the

5:59

well as detonated. Such a way

6:01

that it would toss the whale back

6:03

into the same and the see would

6:05

reclaim it and it would do a

6:07

dead whales do in the seem to

6:09

spaces for bit since and fragments of

6:11

the whale list on the beach by

6:13

the destination would be scavenged by sea

6:16

birds and crafts. Know Mr.

6:18

Thornton so this and like points a

6:20

good idea to sit. How much dynamite

6:22

Judy to the goes? well don't really

6:24

know but serve them so so soon

6:26

since gave you some sort. Of

6:29

and some. He suggested that maybe ten

6:31

cases since about two hundred kilograms of

6:33

dynamite with do the job. And

6:35

he saw a movie that's doublet

6:38

to be of the say success.

6:40

After twenty paces dynamite were afforded

6:42

and right that's about four hundred

6:44

and twenty Five Four hundred and

6:46

fifty kilograms of dynamite. By now

6:48

a crowded assemble because word got

6:50

out because once they found out

6:52

they were going to blow off

6:54

a whale well hundreds began to

6:56

appear including also the local Tv

6:58

station who sense of very young

7:00

and eager reports rather Utah's from

7:02

Be Saved Lives local Tv station

7:04

called Pulled Lindeman. He went

7:07

down there to cover it and you could

7:09

find this is on the is on the

7:11

internet. Nourishment that you doofus. Very fine report.

7:13

So anyway. They arrive this

7:16

tournament the Be and packets round. The.

7:18

Whale Meanwhile in a city very

7:20

far away, a gentleman called World's

7:22

Human Hoffer had just bought himself

7:25

a new car for a dealership

7:27

which advertised you can get a

7:29

whale of a deal with him

7:31

mindful of the people coming into

7:33

the refs and he bought a

7:35

new Oldsmobile Regency say Frequency. Drove

7:37

down to out for Spence who

7:39

is crowds during New Florence would

7:41

be someone on had looks on

7:43

their he saw the whale of

7:46

a so the people leg chart

7:48

and so. Happens that Waltz was

7:50

a experts at explosives he took me

7:52

to do so. I need speak to

7:54

the guy so is it comes picked

7:57

by can charge. A

8:01

nervous about fascinating dynamite and sand

8:04

and you've got way. Way.

8:06

Too much. Is. It

8:08

your four hundred and fifty kilograms you perhaps

8:10

v four kilograms you've actually got a hundred

8:12

times more charge. The new need to choose

8:15

a job you want if you on

8:17

a flu shot while back instead seats that

8:19

Mr. Thornton thought we know about is nothing

8:21

says it's Thank you for your advice bitter

8:24

I will carry on as he plans

8:26

to discover that case of It's recommend that

8:28

people step significantly by as close to what

8:30

you want to tell anyone. Miss

8:33

was three days later now I think

8:35

and the whereas you could imagine was

8:37

running tests about sports. Cohen said it

8:39

was a smell of so by the

8:41

to remained in his nostrils. Two weeks

8:43

or so there was a mattress emergency

8:45

to dispose of this well see for

8:48

see signs. In the afternoon the detonation

8:50

came. The. Destination was

8:52

equivalent in schools to a

8:54

Tomahawk Cruise Miss setup and

8:56

stuff. That's and it sends

8:58

a slew of to post

9:01

way up into the air

9:03

article Smoke goes Up. Must.

9:06

Come down, Unfortunately explosion though

9:08

intense was highly focused so set

9:10

of atomizer the well into tiny

9:12

pieces which to see ghosts coven

9:14

take away his actually to sort

9:16

of effectively cut it in half.

9:18

Dog a big hole underneath the

9:20

whale but that of the where

9:22

would you descend into the sky

9:25

is set up an enormous chunks

9:27

soon as this one little bit

9:29

where it explodes and pool Lydman

9:31

in one of the great and

9:33

Pulitzer award winning this is a

9:35

common trade tv journalism said. The

9:38

blast blasted blubber to unbelievable bow

9:40

says automatic about such up the

9:42

a disembodied voice I think that

9:44

was the phrase irony of ironies

9:46

The person suffered most as a

9:48

consequence of this was waltz because

9:50

the biggest piece of Wales about

9:52

the size of attract a tough

9:54

sell on his new car on

9:56

ice and it. And

9:58

so what You found resist? Decomposing whale

10:00

blubber significant amounts distributed over wide area

10:03

so the poor people of Florence Oregon

10:05

has guaranteed connected buckets and stuff. what

10:07

was left of the whale was kind

10:10

of eventually berets and a new ruling

10:12

was decided that in future for any

10:14

beach wells of they would burial burn

10:16

them rather than blow them up. Mister

10:19

Thornton when questioned about this. Us

10:21

To his credit said people talk about

10:23

this as if it was a failure.

10:26

Help us unless you know there were

10:28

some elements, but it didn't go quite

10:30

according to plan. But on the whole

10:32

I'm very pleased and happy with what

10:35

happened. and actually it's a few weeks

10:37

later he was promoted. Volts car was

10:39

replaced courtesy of the highways departments and

10:42

that was your exploding whale. Now you

10:44

think perhaps that would be an episode

10:46

in your towns history that you would

10:48

like to leave and disturbs in history.

10:51

And Ninety Nine says somebody found out

10:53

about it, started writing about and eventually became

10:55

a bit of a thing. There was a

10:58

sort of know quite a meme exactly because

11:00

reports got out is exploding Wales story and

11:02

then people started funding up the Oregon

11:04

Department of Homes and then somebody recover extent

11:06

of tv station cat that on tape and

11:09

shouted at Christmas parties for years because it

11:11

was so funny and they said remarks

11:13

to do it and they re released it

11:15

and then it became a huge thing on

11:18

the internet. It has now been viewed three

11:20

hundred and sixty. Million times the Exploding

11:22

Well of Oregon on had to

11:25

recommended to a psychosis thing that

11:27

was not to Florence is credit

11:29

has become the thing everybody knows

11:31

about Florence and they recently renamed

11:34

to Park Exploding Whale Park and

11:36

on the anniversary the explosion everyone

11:38

goes home for Nisa up in

11:41

well as teams income. Is.

11:43

Very nice indeed. Enough as

11:45

it might in us size us to

11:47

the know anything fritzl for editing or

11:49

not we think of in pre history

11:51

thing must be some suits me and

11:53

force and serious thing but i can

11:55

imagine some Roka to whatever and I

11:57

we signed lengthy was something that as.

11:59

An integrated i'm I'm a disco yes, those

12:01

things. And sun. Is setting deputy

12:03

Wales is a six. Wales quite often

12:06

mix with Ems, a terrible one in

12:08

Taiwan and two thousand and four city

12:10

to I know. A sperm whale again

12:12

was breached. Sixty Ben and three cranes

12:14

picked it up and logitech onto a

12:16

lorry and took it to while. The.

12:19

rest of the university because there was a professor

12:21

there who wants to do some post mortem and

12:23

see what had happened with this well in in

12:26

the university seems to be cross of the ticket

12:28

actually to nature serve to to it but on

12:30

the way it was going through the city of

12:32

playing on and everybody came out. To.

12:35

See it. And it exploded

12:37

interests and this is a

12:39

pull something pictures of and

12:42

exploded sperm whale with all

12:44

its insides of you provide

12:46

Now being out since people

12:48

standing in shock coveted whale

12:51

blubber and whale blogs because

12:53

you know. Wales.

12:55

Beats and when they do there's a

12:58

lot of matter in the abdomen. Said

13:00

it decomposes new produces guys. it's is

13:02

a wonderful thing on you Tube a

13:04

verb, a marine biologist performing of us

13:07

cause it's really sticks in his thing

13:09

and a school bus plane office make

13:11

by the explosions of the inside wilting

13:13

out so quickly. Site.

13:15

Say I'm barrel of William the Conqueror

13:18

and notice. When. He was

13:20

squeezed into as entice months and a

13:22

previous of Cyprus they made the casket

13:24

when he was a slimmer man and

13:26

he had been floating down the rivers

13:29

to his final resting place and when

13:31

they got to the point where I

13:33

had to be committed to the sarcophagus

13:35

they couldn't get him in in there

13:37

was the monks is pushing him heaving

13:40

and everything and he split open and

13:42

the smell was so appalling that everyone

13:44

rushed out. Into the pressure.

13:46

apart from the very brave monks who

13:48

just carried on him for them down.

13:50

but the smell was apparently unbelievable. This

13:52

is why the sensible from on this

13:55

is disarray or noses eviscerated. People have

13:57

very high rank who required burial was

13:59

rebels and. Henry the Eighth

14:01

Charles exploded famously. Henry the Eighth

14:04

Time Fifteen Forty seven his body

14:06

was taken stopped somehow sensing can

14:08

exploded over noise that everyone has

14:11

to do puts move Thanksgiving. The

14:13

sends of Anglo Saxon times as long as

14:15

there is adamant evil kings the best who

14:17

had to be amazed and and trials were

14:20

taken ice and buried in the like a

14:22

since a lot of body could be mean

14:24

said that wouldn't happen. Any of that

14:26

would happen then submissive hard one was to

14:28

businesses this. rate yourself rid. Rather,

14:31

Than has burst upon Yes

14:33

Sir Anthony. Seen it. I came as

14:35

slant some experiences didn't know that. lots of

14:37

us. Via a i'm an ancestor mine

14:39

was killed or maimed or civil war

14:41

may buried has got for a foul

14:43

and then pick his heart and put

14:45

that in one place and then the

14:47

body somewhere else smells Nasa being spread

14:49

the love for I'm still my favorite.

14:52

Sometimes I is. How can the i

14:54

have gonna be another soil is. Not an exploding

14:56

whale fact, It's a Florence fact

14:58

you can imagine. It hasn't stumped

15:00

itself noisily into human history but

15:02

it to to get into systems.

15:05

In November nineteen seventy seven to

15:07

years off the well exploded Florence

15:09

once again hit the headlines. It

15:11

was because as you can imagine

15:13

if you live on one the

15:16

some lodged expense of sand dune

15:18

anywhere to be found, the courting

15:20

couples sometimes in the heat of

15:22

the moments woods unwittingly or perhaps

15:24

wittingly. Display. Their.

15:27

Birds and bees as it were

15:29

to people. So the City forces

15:32

Paulson ordinance forbidding the spectacle of

15:34

sex which they said should not

15:36

be visible from any public or

15:39

private place. Of this was due

15:41

dates passed into law where Pawn

15:43

Shop which is lawyer noted that

15:46

under the terms of that ordinance

15:48

that effectively pounds sexual intercourse for

15:50

everyone under any circumstances or and

15:53

america action whatsoever. So there was

15:55

a kind of quick. Huddle behind

15:57

the speaker's chair with intervals. The

16:00

near the lawyers decided that the

16:02

ordinance would not be enforced until

16:04

and amendments for fad accessories and

16:06

so florence once again slip back

16:09

into into the anonymity of a

16:11

little town. I live American. Very

16:13

good for him and. Me

16:16

from the explaining. Well that yes good. Citizens

16:18

and I return cause Molino? Yeah,

16:21

and you've basis return. The announced

16:23

it. Was quite. Impressive meting

16:25

being as a to exploding lil

16:27

expert. Consensus. Has any a cool downs

16:29

and that another. Much daily. Exploding

16:31

will clear up this is Heather was

16:34

near I'd rather be designed Room or

16:36

Motion pictures which is Charles their to

16:38

feed your thank you are muslims. Are. We

16:42

doing offense I'm anxious prevent

16:44

sight unseen and jobs and

16:46

even research since pyramids selling

16:49

have three knots literally. With

16:51

such as fast as a yes

16:53

Actually I was caught up in

16:55

the pyramids having thing by communities

16:57

and was one of their the

16:59

many people not to profit from

17:01

it came in quite late and

17:03

actually the bottom line and all

17:05

of this is if you invest

17:07

in a ponzi scheme in particular

17:09

your chances of losing. Assume what

17:11

type of losing Everything you invest

17:13

is ninety five percent. Say starting

17:16

from that jollies Tistadt willacy. Really

17:18

in this? Ah, my research at

17:20

multi level. Marketing, ponzi and pyramid

17:22

settings, games there will similar

17:24

but different ascent slay what

17:26

we're looking at Their in

17:29

all of this is a

17:31

combination of cliches, wishful thinking.

17:33

simply tickets be true. borrowing

17:35

from Peter to Pay Paul

17:37

and a sense they hope

17:39

and greed and is the

17:42

shuffling of money. But you're

17:44

looking really when you're selling

17:46

a pyramid salang scheme at

17:48

enriching yourself and not caring.

17:50

About those further down the pyramid

17:53

and the man who I've touched

17:55

on with a and who will

17:57

forever be associated with this is.

18:00

A man who charles ponzi he

18:02

was born in a teenager to

18:04

use natalia him he was a

18:06

small gentlemen is fi set to

18:08

very dapper. He arrived in Boston

18:10

after a time of it being

18:12

a petty criminal unfortunate in Italy

18:14

with two dollars and fifty cents

18:16

in his pocket because he was

18:18

fairest find had been the victim

18:21

of a card shop on the

18:23

journey west and he said he

18:25

had two dollars fifty in his

18:27

pocket but a million dollars and

18:29

dreams. And he low

18:31

with us safer. Is he a

18:33

lighted on a way of making

18:36

money? It was a genuine way

18:38

of making money although I wouldn't

18:40

say it's a script but us

18:43

one which was to do with

18:45

buying up international postal reply coupons

18:47

same particular say are in Spain

18:50

and he wants to right to

18:52

relative in America you could buy

18:54

a token for thirty centavos and

18:57

that would be met when you

18:59

tested in in America. To reply

19:01

to the letter by side sent

19:04

Us Stem and he wiped out

19:06

that given see fluctuations in currency

19:08

at that moment. he can make

19:11

a ten percent profit every time

19:13

on this. Now the psychology of

19:15

somebody like Ponzi, these pyramids selling

19:18

people is you have to get

19:20

into the. Potential. Buyer,

19:22

you can't override what you're gonna do,

19:24

you have to reel em in slowly.

19:27

Say he let it be nine that

19:29

he had his brilliance game. Henry got

19:31

round to read but he'd already started

19:33

to make money and he'll go around

19:35

the bars in Boston and give out

19:38

cigars and so the hint that there

19:40

was about to get ready back and

19:42

then have people begging him to be

19:44

lucky enough to follow his advice and

19:46

he realized this is on a scale

19:49

x potentially on a scale that he

19:51

couldn't possibly. Meets himself say brought in

19:53

two layers of agents on commission's some

19:55

said junior ones on Five Percent. But

19:58

the scene he once on Temp. That

20:00

and a common denominator with the

20:02

last. This pyramid selling is that

20:04

see your over a very low.

20:06

The real money comes from engaging

20:08

as many people as possible and

20:10

therefore you need footsoldiers to bring

20:12

those people in and to get

20:14

my money off them as quickly

20:16

as possible. He

20:18

did incredibly well. He promised returns assisted

20:20

percent and forty five days. Some people

20:22

found that impossible to resist. Not idea

20:25

of the ponzi scheme is there's no

20:27

new money ready, you take money off

20:29

people and ten new rewards those who

20:31

demands that refund or hopefully not very

20:34

fun but their interest there was some

20:36

value has to do with the fluctuation

20:38

in exchange for there was but he

20:40

couldn't service it said that was a

20:42

real thing but he couldn't possibly bring

20:45

that in and was promising returns that

20:47

he. Couldn't provide out of that

20:49

they were never going to happen.

20:51

I certainly couldn't be fifty percent

20:53

on a five sensitive enough, but

20:55

it was incredibly sought after. The

20:58

queues outside his officers went on

21:00

for miles. He was all about

21:02

materialism and he wants his things.

21:04

They bought himself twelve bedroom mansion

21:06

in Lexington partner Boston and had

21:08

a custom built limit. He made

21:11

sixteen million dollars and eight months.

21:13

There was one peak period and

21:15

was collecting a million dollars a

21:17

week. And at first

21:19

the local nice have the Boston

21:21

Post was just in or of

21:23

or s and and started reporting

21:25

about this extraordinary man who is

21:27

promising these things without examining the

21:29

details and as soft as. Fantastic.

21:32

Pr promotional for his nefarious

21:35

actions. but then things started

21:37

to go wrong. They.

21:40

Reckon in the end we

21:42

had forty thousand individual victims.

21:44

Essentially the bus and post

21:46

started to really examine the

21:48

returns based on somebody recalling

21:50

they wanted a million. Of.

21:53

Ponzi which they said was I to

21:55

him and his have struggled to find

21:57

as so they went and hard and

21:59

that she mentioned pulitzer prize is in

22:01

your privacy that nice type of exposing

22:04

him in the in the summer Nineteen

22:06

Twenty got their prize. Now of course

22:08

when Bernie Madoff was found guilty while

22:10

in two thousand and eight he was

22:13

essentially busted you ended up with this

22:15

extraordinary situation where this man had been.

22:18

Doing. A ponzi scheme probably from the

22:20

nineteen seventies hit met it to the

22:22

nineteen nineties and tell he told his

22:25

sons what are you staying in two

22:27

thousand and eight and he had a

22:29

sense late. To. Forty people

22:31

of sixty four billion dollars over that

22:33

period and quite well known people. John

22:36

Malkovich, Steven Spielberg. He had his own

22:38

sort of bespoke investment thing that was

22:40

not regulated and in a resort have

22:43

done with people's recommendations of family and

22:45

friends. Us how it began. Yeah and

22:47

they produce such returns or promised. Suffered

22:49

sensitivity piled and and it wasn't just

22:52

individuals as charities and cetera and he

22:54

was a huge big Rules she wasn't

22:56

He was a great magician seen as

22:59

this extraordinary pretty even know. People suspected

23:01

him they couldn't mail at thread and

23:03

tell he confessed her sons and you're

23:05

right So one of the things was

23:07

again playing on the but people would

23:09

go to is a new he is

23:11

in a certain country club that makes

23:13

where they bumped into him and beg

23:15

him to let them get while say

23:17

on the his back since an old

23:19

confidence track so I don't want period

23:21

about the people are boston but I

23:24

seem to have that our sorry I

23:26

missed a ponzi to start with the

23:28

original one I could find three ponzi

23:30

was a lady. Caught while women cause

23:32

Sarah How who worked as a

23:34

particularly vulnerable audience and it was

23:36

women who was struggling to make

23:38

ends meet with as people had

23:40

a little bit of money not

23:42

enough and they had to make

23:45

more say And eighteen seventy eight

23:47

she opened the Ladies Deposit Company

23:49

and base a said that she

23:51

was underwritten by the Quakers question,

23:53

had no idea that she is

23:55

operating with and name and she

23:57

promised return a double within three

23:59

months. Her background

24:01

she had no financial now Satoshi as

24:04

a fortune teller and stage psychic since

24:06

she was used to dealing with the

24:08

gullible I think but she really did

24:10

gave so vulnerable women seat seek was

24:13

suspected of being fraudulent and rather bravely

24:15

said well if he thinks I'm a

24:17

fraud is so take your money back

24:19

and people to hurt her what she

24:22

was then put in prison. Since she

24:24

got out of prison she had to

24:26

more guys. She set up the Boston

24:29

Women's by contrast pseudonym. That

24:31

went belly up and she would

24:33

possibly got away with that because

24:35

of the pseudonym but with her

24:37

games from that she started the

24:39

Ladies Provident Aid Society and then

24:41

she was jailed again and on

24:43

her release gave up finance and

24:46

went back to fortune telling us

24:48

to this is honest occupation acid

24:50

attacks on his tivo. Got caught

24:52

up in these and had that

24:54

reputations destroyed. Pops. Most

24:56

prominently the Us President former Us President

24:58

Ulysses as Grant had a rather disappointing

25:01

son could park or Ulysses Grant Jr

25:03

who got him with a Wall Street

25:05

banker called Fun and Ward and pay

25:07

a cent. Second these ridiculous things I

25:10

mean I know we can last for

25:12

they mustered let very tempting Ulysses as

25:14

Grant was told by his son and

25:17

this bank at that it invested fifty

25:19

thousand dollars of them he get two

25:21

thousand dollars but every month when he

25:24

thought was is marvelous then Ward. Said

25:26

well I'm sure it's gangs I was

25:28

had an unexpected column on money so

25:30

could you bring in some or and

25:32

depresses ex president. Went to the Vanderbilt

25:34

Family William Panda belts and got one

25:36

hundred and fifty thousand dollars to keep

25:38

him a slate and it just disappeared

25:40

and Ulysses as Grant on the back

25:42

of this line was left with just

25:45

over two hundred dollars. Mister Vanderbilt for

25:47

gave the dance but you to sees

25:49

as Grant was so mortified he gave

25:51

more his Civil War memorabilia and those

25:53

of a while toy had done and

25:55

set about. When he knew his i yell

25:57

writing his autobiography which was a Sears as as

25:59

well. Three Authors we be very annoyed

26:01

and jealous to know. That is why. From

26:04

first check off grid I got two hundred

26:06

and fifty thousand dollars. Miss. Her.

26:10

So there are lots of

26:12

these roads in history as

26:14

one called Gregor Mcgregor, a

26:16

Scottish soldier who saw potential

26:19

return in backing the left

26:21

in independence movement in the

26:23

early nineteenth century, say went

26:25

down help the Venezuelans and

26:27

he managed to become a

26:30

really big cheese in South

26:32

America. He managed to sell

26:34

a scheme to willing. Dupes.

26:37

As we had see them to

26:39

go to Nicaragua he said it

26:41

sound royal palace there and opera

26:43

house. He appoints himself the Prince

26:46

of Paris and he took two

26:48

hundred thousand pounds in investments on

26:50

the back of his guarantees as

26:52

the Prince of pays some so

26:55

I'm mispronouncing and he managed to

26:57

persuade to settlers the colonists two

26:59

hundred people to go to this

27:02

eaten which was the mosquito tested

27:04

Nicaragua where they basically got eaten

27:06

alive. That's impenetrable jungle I've been

27:08

that I once was enough open

27:10

our. Tents. And was a giant

27:13

Anteaters side to join me. said it's quite

27:15

enough pitiful that sees what's it like When

27:17

am I to that wants to make your

27:19

acquaintance? What's it like in the Insistence and

27:21

lauds? It was married and way I had

27:23

this a basic that giant mosquito now with

27:25

us at a tin frame and tie in

27:27

with comes I would have some sort of

27:30

I hadn't made far as noise last Thursday

27:32

and it's going well. I saw it's are

27:34

saying and it was either him or me

27:36

read it was to did you hit on

27:38

my may not have met lots and noises

27:40

and face against the. Floor and of Rights. I'd

27:42

like to think in a heroic, crazy. As

27:45

but I was ready to run silver sonos

27:47

to put up a sweat. And morris. Like

27:52

is a day quite fagan. They

27:54

got very big glory things going

27:56

on. some abby cysts said not

27:58

another one of my. Had moments

28:00

as at first they saw people. let's

28:02

get back to Scorpio on the mosquito

28:04

cause they managed to get words have

28:06

British colony in Honduras come and get

28:08

them but only a of them survived

28:10

in a this Mcgregor cause all sorts

28:12

from interesting may he did end up

28:14

in prison when he said to France

28:16

and mates and ill advised trip back

28:18

to London and was jailed but he

28:20

goes very charming his released after very

28:23

short time in prison went back to

28:25

Venezuela was made a significant figure in

28:27

the army that's lift off pence and

28:29

until he told. Surrender.

28:31

It's their a modern versions of these

28:33

vents as let's call it boss or

28:35

well name companies. I'm sorry not going

28:37

to risk the rabbit most talented budget

28:39

by going to foreign threats, but you

28:42

know psalms that a selling quite dodgy

28:44

vitamin supplements and all of that sort

28:46

of thing. So the herbal things that

28:48

are good for. Health. And

28:51

that sort of thing is very bad

28:53

news and you're not gonna get well

28:55

I'm I'm They're sold as inflated prices

28:57

that if you buy the products than

29:00

that sign that gonna make money off

29:02

here. But the real thing as a

29:04

permanent recruitment. Very well known farms. live

29:06

off this whole idea that you're just

29:08

gonna keep going, generating more and more

29:10

money through paying your diffident to be

29:12

a part of her a contemporary pyramid.

29:15

When I saw it be nice to

29:17

raise money to replace the windows in

29:19

the parents just. As of married they added

29:21

find and I thought well. Why? Didn't

29:23

I to a. Subscription. To the

29:25

national lottery because it could be you

29:27

write the chances are slim limits so i

29:30

did on line of things and us

29:32

loss in and i realized opt to go

29:34

selected never cancel it because if i do.

29:37

See your those numbers of the following

29:39

week and it's a completely ridiculous things,

29:42

but it's a powerful sagan so I.

29:45

I think of it now as a way

29:47

of supporting and prices as worthy of support.

29:49

For times I'm locked into the nestles. Will.

29:53

Easy people get locked into these structures

29:55

as well. I'm not in a name

29:57

and you become a rap. And.

30:00

Have a year subscription and you cannot get

30:02

Stephen. Let your scripts and laps and some

30:04

of them be can't get out of. That's

30:06

essentially your job is to pass your disown

30:08

to another mug, right? That's. Exactly and

30:10

not in line of pyramid selling. His

30:12

is interesting. has some of them developed

30:14

Are not saying this is an illegal

30:17

structure at all. It's very respected by

30:19

Avon which we now rejected as base

30:21

in of Hamilton of say we now

30:23

know it is somewhat selling cause metics

30:25

it didn't Still and that and eighteen

30:27

Eighty Six at the start of my

30:29

man who was selling books but with

30:32

the books you got a free beauty

30:34

products he realized he was weren't really

30:36

interested in the bucks answer it developed

30:38

after that but you have. An army

30:40

of Avon lady s particularly susceptible to

30:42

becoming these members are maybe people who

30:44

are young mothers who are on maternity

30:47

leave us hanging, they want to let

30:49

eyes and this issue do the math

30:51

and a rather optimistic way with some

30:53

of these fans. They say you can

30:55

make so much him at a year

30:58

or two months. a lot of it's

31:00

perhaps more helpful than rail. So it's

31:02

now. Very big deal on social media

31:04

Tix Instagram, their high tech bells and

31:06

whistles for tracks, People in sweat and

31:09

you see these fans. Starting for

31:11

nothing, this one called Unique Wire You

31:13

Meet was starting to has and fifteen

31:15

it was worth a billion dollars by

31:17

two thousand and seventeen. I'm not saying

31:19

these about Isis, I just ones that

31:21

started the crypto currency ones of very

31:24

yeah, fly by night there was one

31:26

calls hype of us and that collapse

31:28

and twenty twenty three with all sorts

31:30

of questions around it. And as a

31:32

are you has solicit one client

31:34

people invested. Millions.

31:37

Yes my favorite sites is really

31:39

exactly what you're saying. Rich and

31:41

at the bottom line on this

31:44

whole thing which is taking money

31:46

of months. But from the other

31:48

side who are these people who

31:51

start these and against get back

31:53

to my Charles ponzi and they

31:56

analysis done on him. By.

31:58

Criminal Expert says that he

32:00

wanted to be something special

32:02

here and. When. The run

32:05

was on it literally only super

32:07

waiting outside for across running across

32:09

the main part of town wanting

32:11

their money back in the summer

32:13

of the hot summer of Nineteen

32:15

Twenty Ponzi sent coffee and sandwiches

32:17

out the huge crowds. He got

32:20

his people to move the latest

32:22

the front cause they were fainting

32:24

in the heat and. He

32:26

was gonna ride it out and people

32:28

with confused even night when they were

32:30

demanding their money back there will be

32:32

plenty but that also chairs cause people

32:34

wanted to believe in him on their

32:36

way to that amount chance because you

32:38

can't If you stop believing in him

32:40

than you stop believing that you to

32:42

him. Oh yeah city for buying that

32:44

much as from people who were getting

32:46

them and in fact this one man

32:49

this to me as the crux of

32:51

us my favorite fight. One man shouted

32:53

out to ponzi you're the greatest Italian

32:55

of them all. And. Then Ponzi

32:57

modesty replied that Columbus discovered America,

32:59

a Marconi had discovered the wireless

33:02

and the man shouted at that

33:04

charlie, you discovered where the money

33:06

is. And that to me sums it

33:08

or not. He. Wants to believe that

33:11

somebody has discovered the root of all

33:13

money says in Sing Sing someone said

33:15

about Bernie Madoff. I said it was

33:17

why would you do that's in this

33:19

person who knew him said because. He

33:21

would soon allies and sale. At

33:24

seen as and resources Because his

33:26

father partner had rather adds up

33:28

and down career yet received from

33:30

new immigrants from Europe, it was

33:32

better to. Live in a fiction

33:34

than Sam Insects and they must be

33:36

a point where you know you've had

33:38

it as would you do that the

33:41

i used to carry on I guess

33:43

and six other calls the Reverend Crest

33:45

code dollar But if you come across

33:47

him what he preaches the Prosperity Gospel

33:49

which is a some say idiosyncratic reading

33:52

of the Gospels much such God's will

33:54

is prosperity and that the sign of

33:56

God's blessing on you feel upright, life

33:58

or be prosperity. And so

34:00

investment schemes follow in which God's blessing

34:03

will be evidence. The more generous you

34:05

are and craft go dollar signs and

34:07

private jet. They've been one or two

34:09

questions about the privacy of his business

34:12

dealings own saints. Too much been sense,

34:14

but two things happen. That one is

34:16

the promise of quick returns and the

34:18

others the promise of God's blessing. That's

34:21

very. Of. Pocket is an

34:23

oath as tax free as next as

34:25

a church yeah income I will sing

34:27

most heartening to me the Deceit Charity

34:29

with a fleet of private jet. Pack

34:33

Ice been in North Carolina which is bible

34:36

belt American actor quite regularly and on a

34:38

Sunday morning you turn on tv it all

34:40

religious broadcasting and I saw these three men

34:42

literally saying in that program is she sanders

34:45

Two hundred and fifty dollars you will get

34:47

a haven't been and I imagine people to

34:49

send it in. Their. Class

34:51

safe at the price will be to

34:53

put cause I. Slay

34:56

say such a cat? what did he got from.

34:58

Wow! you've lamb is very nicely by

35:00

months the North Carolina didn't realize man

35:02

and his Us military science. Thank you

35:04

for that. I'm is it or came

35:07

out there were nights. Colony

35:09

non. Atlanta was assessed

35:11

English colony in North America

35:13

which was established insisting Eight

35:15

Keys. I see the second

35:17

one so interesting and it's

35:20

because the entire colony sadness.

35:23

And all trace of that was his last.

35:25

And we still don't know what happened.

35:28

Sized. Story goes back to

35:30

the steam ages of sixteen eighty

35:32

Four, a point where European exploitation

35:35

of the Americas was properly and

35:37

will fly, but England haven't really

35:39

been very active in colonization. yes

35:41

of these new areas. Until

35:44

Queen Elizabeth the first agree

35:46

to attempt a settlement in

35:48

lots would then later the

35:50

names of Virginia by Sir

35:52

Walter Raleigh. I was when his

35:54

sort of ready at instrumental in during mass.

35:57

And that lead to disaster. Expeditionary

35:59

says. Going to try to find

36:01

a place for a colony the if

36:03

this was called the a modest Barlow

36:06

exhibition and explore the region of this

36:08

what play to becomes North Carolina. They

36:10

made contact with a native population on

36:12

and on and called Roanoke. They're quite

36:15

friendly they traded seem really quite positive

36:17

ice me an insight to people from

36:19

that next population to mend called Montejo

36:21

and when chest see I see volunteer

36:24

to go back to England for this

36:26

is all seem to be a great

36:28

success They came back can described. A

36:30

place of plenty it's assessment people

36:33

are peaceful. Brigham Side.

36:35

Sixty nine to five we

36:37

have, ah, the first expedition

36:39

setting sail to establish his

36:41

colony. and the fitness of

36:44

optimism bots. Actually not really

36:46

enough. Knowledge of what that Salim says. Would

36:48

be to settle in a place like

36:50

this. So they were sassy to five

36:52

ships sets sail from Plymouth on the

36:54

ninth Maple insisting eighty five all male

36:57

group including these two of them. Next,

36:59

population that with impact again and I'm

37:01

Uncle John White to hear about. Lace

37:03

Up. Now they

37:05

did have a loss of problems on

37:07

the white over there which is quite

37:09

crucial because actually they lost their supplies

37:11

that both a lot of food and

37:13

things that they would survive on. and

37:15

than that news and a money eventually

37:17

reach this nation the didn't get quite

37:19

as a may not as they had

37:21

a decided the settled on Redneck. Now

37:23

that Marinades it was sort of leading

37:26

the my rep Michael Grenville went back

37:28

home again and that new. Colony.

37:30

Was led by someone called Ralph's Lane

37:32

and although it seems quite promising eight

37:34

went badly pretty quickly that didn't have

37:36

enough seed and the relationship with a

37:38

nice population which was really positive of

37:41

us just went out with our it's

37:43

icy really quickly and that very stories

37:45

of their sort of a mess that

37:47

they were told that they were back

37:49

to the attacks and so they thought

37:51

well we'll get them fast than a

37:53

some sleep. Killed the local she's a

37:55

man called when Gina. And

37:57

this led to a disease.

38:00

The really they couldn't survive. They were

38:02

actually rescued by Sir Francis Drake and

38:04

taken back to England so this is

38:06

a bit of a failure. Parts that

38:08

are still saying good things about Says

38:10

and Still Might actually painted and Mcrae

38:12

to some beautiful would colors and illustration.

38:15

Sec kept a really good record of

38:17

what Roanoke and that that's as colony

38:19

looks like that with still have today

38:21

and insisting that Eighty Seven they decided

38:23

to try again Sir A new exhibition

38:25

of colonized next been issued with syntax.

38:28

John White was not going to be

38:30

the governor. On they brought

38:32

with them hundred and seventeen settlers this

38:34

time, including some least as well. So

38:36

they were eighty nine men, seventeen women,

38:38

and eleven children. on a woman's be

38:40

given five hundred acres of land When

38:42

they went, Them. That

38:45

she went to go to that Chesapeake

38:47

Bay area but again ended up on

38:49

bernanke and and food scenario seems that

38:51

the native population i she remembered what

38:53

happened before they weren't happy to see

38:55

them read em early. A couple of

38:57

years behind B S is encounters

39:00

with his as exactly right. So

39:03

they arrived in cities like New July.

39:05

Twenty eight Two July. One of the

39:07

colonists, a Michael's George How was found

39:09

dead on the beats. You have to

39:11

have have been murdered and in all

39:14

guess The Covenant don't mind was I

39:16

to commence to return to England again?

39:18

So religious talking and months later with

39:20

an urgent request for supplies you would

39:23

have thought. That maybe that learn from

39:25

Asus of my may mean it's quite

39:27

a bit more a he sets off

39:29

spot. Came from England against race away

39:31

on. He hasn't returned quite quickly but

39:33

little problems he did. Sets.

39:36

Off in Fifteen eighty Eight with

39:38

two ships, but they had a

39:40

an issue with a Spanish vessel

39:42

returned to England and then the

39:45

Spanish Armada attacks so there was

39:47

no way of getting back. So

39:49

he eventually returned to this colony

39:51

on the sixteenth of August. Sixteen

39:53

ninety say three years Asta E

39:56

last expecting to find a thriving

39:58

economy, but there was. No

40:00

trace of anyone. At

40:02

all. On row night, they're all gone.

40:04

There were no. Said forty.

40:06

So anything like that, There's no

40:09

sign of some. The only thing

40:11

he could find was a sign

40:13

on a tree trunk that read

40:15

Corleto. And. And this

40:17

is the name of an island about eighty

40:19

kilometers away. So the questions

40:22

did they meet their me he an

40:24

icy said to them it's our problems

40:26

Apparently they were meant to leave a

40:28

mark say. The. Assumption is

40:30

always been that this was a

40:33

message that they had to escape

40:35

presumably because of Complex and Thirty

40:37

Quarter and unfortunately a white actually

40:39

couldn't investigation look for them because

40:41

there was a very very heavy

40:44

storms and he had to return

40:46

to England again. Without. Ever

40:48

funny I will happen to. Any

40:50

of them with family said this

40:52

really as than become this lost

40:54

colony that seems to be successful.

40:57

But i sleep sounds arrogant

40:59

and dancing to mess with

41:01

the me to try. Assists.

41:04

Way not far away. Always

41:07

lair there. Regardless, all that

41:09

easy. Such so insisted. Yeah,

41:11

it seems plausible for me to

41:13

leave no trace is because you

41:15

go wrong and during the ship

41:18

or they go somewhere else. And

41:20

they said the Bermuda Triangle or

41:22

ocean flatulence took them some scepticism

41:24

aside from someone. Else this is know

41:26

if as obvious as a would ever

41:28

be murdered in. There were no houses

41:30

been found. nothing like there's There's no

41:33

clear science does anybody. Asks.

41:35

The indigenous people to compete

41:37

blue and finance. Of the he

41:39

wasn't really able. I don't think to say for

41:42

an ambitious of the weather So you had to

41:44

return really really quickly. Must not. Really so

41:46

committed to this well as he doesn't

41:48

seem. Like an old are his his

41:50

own family including his daughter was actually

41:52

their sites you think than now people

41:55

did look that later on. so quite

41:57

soon after we have most successful businesses

41:59

and fucking. That say sixty know

42:01

several got the foundation of Jamestown

42:03

for example and than the Plymouth

42:05

Colony and own of our since

42:07

the Jamestown columnists did try to

42:09

find out about them. I see

42:11

what happened to our night but

42:13

it was no clear evidence at

42:15

all. Really lots of Remus says

42:17

a lot of rumors going around

42:19

about light skinned fair had people

42:21

living somewhere in the south and

42:24

one of the things I came

42:26

back up again with that perhaps

42:28

the had I sleep integrated with

42:30

indigenous. Tribes as opposed to having been

42:32

killed off because they were other tribes

42:34

that were more friendly than the ones

42:36

likely that they had conflicts in Blue

42:38

They went all the same, you know,

42:40

son or like everyone that hated them

42:42

and in fact, don't recruiter an. Eye

42:45

on this meant to be more peaceful.

42:47

The people that also some of their

42:49

record suggests that he had. Awesome

42:52

to leave a mark if they were

42:54

going summer, but to leave across if

42:56

they're if they're in danger and the

42:58

quarter and just had the what he

43:01

didn't have. The. Cross sites that's

43:03

been taken a suggesting honestly. Was

43:05

peaceful Sir A. Wanted

43:08

people to replace. did it on

43:11

paper. Looked like it wasn't ideal

43:13

place to. Yeah. I

43:15

think so because that first expedition that

43:17

been up and down there and policy

43:19

despite thought they had interacted with the

43:21

local groups there and of the knowing

43:23

that the place them quite hostile the

43:25

head at traded with them then I

43:27

see agreed to of them had agreed

43:29

to come back to England says I

43:31

woke up. Insiders even they stayed for

43:33

three years memory back again on the

43:35

second x to recycle. Voices in

43:38

my favorite conferences Things From

43:40

The Patrol sees you talking

43:42

about how. Invader.

43:44

New V D is not always

43:47

a blessing were including the relationship

43:49

happen trade happens, mutual interests, Will

43:51

excitement Mrs Interesting because a lot of

43:53

people his lips into this story. It's

43:55

easy for quite a long time decide

43:57

deals. Integration was really not seen as

43:59

a. The good thing because that student

44:01

many have some at that point because this

44:03

English or mentally the superior ones in the

44:06

idea that the had perhaps just sitting on.

44:08

My local I started it up and

44:10

move toward the our history with of

44:12

the genetic history of tude resulted so

44:14

to twenty cents ruined and now is

44:16

that people were clearly into marrying and

44:18

having kids and forming. Phone. Precise

44:21

is less the really interesting one to

44:23

through look at that narrative and the

44:25

have been now recently in the last

44:27

decade or so numerous different approach could

44:29

put excise The trying to find them

44:32

because of his face should be quite.

44:34

A say in principle to find

44:36

a settlement latest as I've moved

44:38

on his attempts to find signs

44:40

of the main sites as a

44:43

lot of projects and some on

44:45

have found some a lot of

44:47

material culture objects onto a lot

44:49

facts on different locations actually that

44:51

could possibly be. Linked. To

44:53

this early adam. New in

44:55

a problem is to prove. That I

44:57

belong to the up by Sussex to

45:00

this him and not the laser. One

45:02

thing I do you actually prove that

45:04

the yet again you'd have done a

45:06

very specific dig and I have those

45:08

people because how else would you. Pluck

45:11

a fight them says something about and of

45:13

agree with have descendants wouldn't say. Yes

45:15

if he finds. Possibly.

45:18

My relatives. yeah, see, that's to

45:20

be able to isolate someone here.

45:22

Nobody's been back since. Quite

45:24

complicated or exley so wouldn't be precise

45:27

know night of the. Same. Thing is that

45:29

if he's handsome, status as if and Graves. Vanilla

45:31

Custard than enough. And. Monday could find

45:33

that that would be the way to do it

45:35

really bad. But. Also, I think some

45:37

of the artifacts on the side city can

45:39

link them to that first expedition on. that

45:41

would be quite. In their

45:43

minds danger from of. Indigenous.

45:45

People at some point recall you normal

45:48

to discern the story about their ancestors

45:50

came from abroad amounts me. That.

45:52

Was the story that became the miss

45:54

in the reality was they're continuing moses.

45:57

Hybrids. To me that soon successes. They

46:00

could. it could have been set of

46:02

biting. ask for the slaying of the

46:04

men and women, and church and statements

46:06

yeah, almost as reading materials. Absolutely

46:09

certain, inevitable, and quite quickly. As a

46:11

misuse the man, seventeen is not. A

46:13

lot of them say that genetics that

46:15

would be diluted quite recently as they

46:17

move on to think of the ones

46:20

who would. Procreates.

46:22

June and I'm I say what fat

46:24

fat me As a person like me,

46:26

it's a woman or dell called Virginia

46:29

that see was the first English child

46:31

born in the America. She

46:34

was I see the granddaughter of

46:36

Jordan White the governor. He returned

46:38

again so when he left she

46:40

was born in the eighteenth of

46:42

August sixteen eighty seven and mother

46:44

was Eleanor White their lowest don't

46:46

my daughter So he last when

46:48

Virginia who is named after the

46:50

third hers. Was on with nine

46:52

days old so he left his

46:55

little granddaughter behind Now Ah story

46:57

as I say lead to a

46:59

full of legends included in a

47:01

slightly bizarre narrative poem written in

47:03

nineteen I one would have been

47:06

obsessed with. The story will happen

47:08

to this both colony and these

47:10

people, them especially. it's to Settle

47:12

Down and some Nickel Sally. Subtle

47:15

cotton rights, the White Zone, The

47:17

Saints or Virginia Das where she

47:19

grows up in a try. To

47:22

belong to that friendly wanna spend? The

47:24

two men. Non tear

47:26

the one who came back to England

47:29

but he turns into the sort of

47:31

fairytale ghost stories where she turned into

47:33

a white tires yes he's to suit

47:36

his wanna miss of weights doctor. thus

47:38

that magic Paul are a tad southern

47:40

ends up. Killing me

47:42

Die Or I think and see. Once.

47:45

Every and such. Didn't either.

47:47

Bentley's of it might that it's sharing

47:49

house this one stories wouldn't last column

47:52

Me just hadn't the huge big that

47:54

serialized from it's Only. My like.

47:57

I. Say them, we gonna have to see.

48:00

Warren is going to go home with this week. Where's

48:02

he going? to? Guys who can have a nice. Holiday

48:05

Princess Muslims West's. North.

48:08

Or south. Sonos and often at this time. Of

48:12

smart. Try not to explode with

48:14

excitement. Ah ah on the when

48:16

as a sleek I knew anyone we

48:18

need to mention that subject I need

48:20

I say well I'm I said before

48:22

this episode it has to him and

48:24

I wanted to assist. The best title

48:26

of and will exactly How can it

48:29

not matter what does that he will

48:31

perhaps the most storage is significant slow

48:33

Colonel for our remembrance yeah that's when

48:35

I were members of to the Yeah

48:37

Well I love the idea of the

48:40

correspondent from Hold It Together He so

48:42

good so good you he stayed. With

48:44

the origin local tv station says chris

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to story tell me to sing and

48:48

to suitable to put it suppresses to

48:51

the get that right doesn't put it

48:53

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for the blast blasted blubber beyond. oh

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believable than stability To get it right

48:59

now. As much as great as a

49:02

choice for five minutes ratio if I pregnant,

49:04

I didn't have enough money to have a

49:06

blast him, as did Blubber. Be on time.

49:08

Said after a couple of drinks and. Brilliant.

49:11

Attacks well let's go home and

49:13

do I might. And Charles can

49:15

you please research Bonnie Prince. Charlie.

49:18

So I'm happy today that. That. Said

49:20

yes. Slide. Steam and. Oh

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yes, the site boats

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especially that honestly excellent.

49:27

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49:29

into that is now one of my favorite

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49:34

Lady Sarah. Yes, Meltzer, I

49:36

will scream for the ferry

49:39

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49:42

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49:44

of who. Icing. His and

49:47

measure the wonder of the regime

49:49

bus military. Thirty

49:51

six did, hats. On.

49:54

That night percent. Does

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50:17

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50:19

Ship Down. There was

50:21

nothing that cut scene and to

50:23

surveys like coming to some strains

50:25

and marvelous place when no one

50:27

even stops to notice. You

50:29

concerned about this is my

50:32

last with her for the

50:34

most I see as sad

50:36

as a reminder from atop

50:38

the US so my nerves

50:40

good bye bye.