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And what that means is I focus on all the things. So dating, love, self-love, sexual empowerment.

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On this episode, join special guest Erica as she gives us a peek into her toolbox of transformation.

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She shares the power of pleasure as a healing tool, and how learning

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to embrace your true self can lead to profound changes in your life.

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Please welcome Erica Wiederlight to the Rebel Rebel podcast.

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Welcome to the Rebel Rebel. I'm your host, Michael Dargie.

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And all the way across the world, who knows where we're going to find out is Erica Wiederlight.

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Hello, Erica. How are you?

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I'm so good. I'm so excited.

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Are you excited because it's almost spring?

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Or are you excited because we get to chat?

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Are you excited because the world is still revolving?

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I don't know. I think all of the above. I'll take all of them.

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They all work. They all fit. Yeah, like. All right.

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Yeah, well, they're all that wicked.

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Well, Erica, if we could, like, let's let's just dive

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right in and tell me what it is that you're up to.

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oh. Sorry. Let me back up a second, because I need to know where you are in the world.

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Where are you in the world? So I'm in the United States.

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So you that part from place, though

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the truth from, from New York, New Jersey, that area.

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And then about a year and a half, two years ago, I moved to Florida,

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West Palm Beach. you know, palm trees, different lifestyle,

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lots of wild Mickey Mouse, you know, all the things, man.

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Manatees? Yup. Truly manatees. Yeah, we did it.

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All right, well, congratulations, Jersey girl in Florida.

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Not original at all. Yeah, I love it.

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Well, Well, okay, so here, here's what I like to do.

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I'd like to understand what it is that you're doing right now.

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for the world, because it's pretty cool.

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so maybe catch us up there, and then we'll we'll do some time travel.

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Love it. Okay, so currently, I am a confidence coach.

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And what that means is I focus on all the things. So dating, love, self-love, sexual empowerment

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and a little like elevator speech, if you will, is I take people

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and we all, you know, like get into a funk here and there.

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But I take people that feel dusty, crusty down on themselves, like,

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does, you know, when you're, you know, when you're dusty, crusty

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and you know, when you're hard on yourselves? I take them on the journey to feel empowered, alive, radiant, fabulous.

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If you've ever seen the show Queer Eye for the straight Guy or Queer Eye on Netflix and we do that.

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Essentially what I do is like the internal makeover.

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so I usually my messaging, I'm like, it's a mojo makeover, it's

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an internal makeover. But essentially I help people with confidence dating or all the juice, you know?

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Oh man, that's cool.

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A mojo makeover.

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It's so awesome. And my conversations all that, like, ever.

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So my husband's very outgoing. Well like very, very outgoing.

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They're like, oh my God. You're like so great.

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And he is there. Like your wife must be so like like a little mouse.

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He's like, no, no. Like if you don't like, you have to hear some of the conversations

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that this woman has all day long. Like I do have to say, it's very interesting.

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It's, I mean, the most rewarding thing on the planet to see people like, do this work.

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It's like so amazing.

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That's so cool. It's so well, well, well, thank you for putting all the good in the world

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that's working. I'm trying things.

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Got to try. You tell one one mojo at a time.

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Literally, quite literally a little mo a little Joe.

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The demo little Mojo put together.

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Yeah, yeah, that's about mojo.

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That's the goal. Yeah. Wicked. That's great.

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so, of course, you know, curiosity,

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is my superpower.

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or also my Kryptonite.

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Why? Like, how did you get into this?

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Can we can we go back in time and figure that out?

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Yeah, I'm we're going to take for that one. because, like, who?

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such a great question. I, as a child was very much like this, you know,

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but then throughout life, through, you know,

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life lives and through experiences, I became the opposite of this.

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So I always say, like, if, if high school, I think high school,

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if high school me knew what I was doing.

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Oh, my God, she'd freak. Be like, what? Like, that's so embarrassing.

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Like, what are you talking about? Like, and also probably like, that's really, that's really cool.

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Like, I'm really proud of you, but, I had to go on my.

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I had to go on my own journey, you know, and I it's funny.

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So I, my whole life did professional acting, since I was eight years old.

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Okay. And so I was like, when I got into this work, it really was for me.

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And I was like, very much, you know, like a a little bit selfish, like, I'm like, this is just for me.

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I'm still doing acting. This is very much for me. This is very much for me.

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And I saw it slowly begun to be begin and form into a mission.

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And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like I really tried to stop.

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No, no. Like I was like, no.

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Like I saw it on the on. I was like, oh, I ate this.

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Like the universe quite literally was like l-o-l.

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And I was like, okay. So it did form,

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it, it honestly unraveled itself

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and I guess and I if I'm digging too deep, you let me know, please.

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I like I, I'm, I'm so curious about why though like I get that

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maybe you're just wired this way, but why.

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Yeah. Okay. So

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like, what year is this probably around

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less than 15 maybe ten. 11.

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Something of that nature a few years back.

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And more than a few at this point. Honestly. 15 maybe.

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I can't do the math.

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I'm like, I'm not going to try.

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I had like one of those, like, come to Jesus years,

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like, fall to your knees, type yours.

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my mom was diagnosed with cancer. I had three friends passed away in the same year.

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and I was dealing with a severe eating disorder,

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and I actually had a break up as well, so, like, high.

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It was like. It was like, hello.

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Like it was like, we're gonna like, we're going to sink or swim.

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or like, what are we going to do with this information? And actually, my mom's cancer diagnosis

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mixed with everything else kind of started this whole thing.

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Like, I started this, I yes, I joke before, like I was selfish.

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It was all about me. It actually really was all about her.

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I was very interested in like, holistic health and,

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I like got my coaching certificate for her.

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Like, I was like, I'm going to do it on her like it was that was where the mission started.

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And then from there I was like, oh, I love this for myself.

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So Cliff notes is, it was a come to Jesus moment, you know what I mean?

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And it was inspired by my mom's health.

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It also was inspired by my friends that I lost, that I was like,

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I want to live a very rich, fulfilling life.

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Like, in their honor.

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and then. Yeah, and then the sexual empowerment piece came years later.

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If you want me to talk about that real quick. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.

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So noticing it, I, I started with like, more like I said, holistic life coaching,

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which, I love, like a huge base of my work is happens to be spiritual.

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but I was doing more of the spiritual thing, if you will, like general life coaching

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and then the sexual empowerment piece came it

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again, was like a little I was teased by the universe.

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I was like, damn, you know, like I it was like L'Oréal flirting with me.

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And I was like, guys, stop, you know? And I was like, oh, stop. Yeah, stop.

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Stop it. Yeah, exactly. I was like, no, I hate it, I love it.

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but I went on, I, I did go on that journey again from personal development.

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And I was like, how can I not?

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that journey that I took personally was so impactful.

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Like, there's no way that this isn't my work.

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Like, it helps me niche. And it helped me.

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Yeah, yeah. Like where I got the other work through the sexual empowerment,

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confidence, all the stuff that I do now was an avenue in,

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so it was like me just doing the work. And then I was like, I must share this with others.

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That's really cool. I love it when people find a mission and it's like, I have to share it with other people.

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I think that's really powerful. It's really cool.

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It is. And I don't regurgitate stuff, you know?

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I know, like, I just really don't believe in that. Like, and I'm not I'm by all means, I'm no angel.

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But like, I don't read something in a book or do a class and be like, I'm

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never remember to take this. I heard this, where it's like, no, no.

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Like I make sure that, like, I practice it on myself.

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I see if it resonates with clients. Like, I really try to try to walk my walk, my walk and talk my talk.

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I try. That's really cool. So,

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take me through, I guess.

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I give me the high level engagement model, like,

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yeah, somebody has no mojo.

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They don't have it. Yeah, they ain't got no mojo.

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And they come to you and they're just like,

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Erica, I need I need to I need this back.

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How do I how do I get there?

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I love that, so I do tons of different ways.

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So I sometimes work with people in group sessions because again, this is like a,

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you know, some people like, oh, whoa, I don't want to jump fully in

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and some people like to be held in community. So for some people that's that's the vibe.

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Yeah. But my big honestly my nuts and bolts and if someone's feeling it,

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I'm like, let's do 1 to 1 because it's so personal.

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It's so tailored. Yeah. Usually I take people, I serve them usually on like a 3 to 6 month journey

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because it quite literally is a journey. It's like not

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it's different than therapy because for me, what I like to do is yes, at sessions,

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but I also communicate with my clients almost every day.

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I know, wow, yeah,

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if they need it and if they don't need it and I'm like, you need space, don't talk.

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I'll talk to you when I see you in session. But they have the if they have the ability, if they're like,

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hey, you know, I'm coming in and I feel crunchy, my great.

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And of course I want to monitor. I don't want to enable anyone.

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I want them to feel like they have the resources. Yeah.

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That was my next question. Yeah, totally. How do you how do you prevent that from happening?

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Because that sounds like it could be bad for them and bad for you.

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Yeah. So it's like we start off like that and then I usually I'm like, great,

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how can you go and do that. Does that make sense?

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So it's like the beginning is kind of teaching them how they do that.

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Then they're like, great, buy this or it might be something is like,

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I'm checking in, I don't need your help, but I want to tell you I did this.

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I want accountability, I'm like, great, go. You, you know, so it's like it's teaching.

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Yeah. Do it. Yeah. Like it's teaching them how to do it and then be just like, supporting them.

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on the sidelines. Crazy.

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What made you move to Florida?

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My husband got job. Relo.

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yeah.

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now, you said New York, new Jersey. Are you a Jersey girl? So, born in Jersey.

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And then I lived in Manhattan for, I think, about ten years.

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And my dad actually had a business in Manhattan.

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He actually was, by the Trade Center.

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No kidding. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

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Holy Christmas. Yeah. well, I mean,

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that's a that's a whole other episode, but the,

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Manhattan's so amazing. I've been there all week.

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We went there once, so my partner Jennifer, and I went there

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for the New York International Film Festival, for a film for Fright Fest. Yes.

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And we were there for, I don't know, like for four days.

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And we just fell in love with that city. And everybody is so freaking awesome.

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It's, it's it's honestly magical.

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Yeah, yeah. And everybody wants to tell you stuff.

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Oh yeah. We are down in Hell's Kitchens guys.

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It's like, you know what you got to do. You got to go eat at Tony's.

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You got no. But if you don't like Tony you got to go over here.

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And we're just like, oh thanks. That's really like, oh my god. Yeah.

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Well it's very aggressive. It's so, you know, it's so funny.

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I heard somebody yesterday or whatever a few days ago and there were like,

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they just moved to New York and they were like, you know,

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the biggest misconception is everyone thinks New Yorkers are rude.

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I'm like, not we're efficient.

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Like, we are like, we are efficient.

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Like they may not look at you when they're walking down the street like they are.

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You know, they may not like you in the subway, but it's some of the kindness.

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Just like most amazing community of people, it's the New York is magical.

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Honestly, do and do not.

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yeah. And there's no I mean, it's not that there isn't pleasantries.

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It's just that we just you get to the point.

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Yeah, 100%. I want to know 100%.

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It's like we're not going to B.S., you know, to get, you know, like that.

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We just we're just, you know, really quick. I when I first moved to Florida

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and I went to my acupuncturist, I thought I was just like, living my life.

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And she was like, well, like, I walked in the door like, are you from New York?

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I was like, oh my God, I and I was, and I was like, what?

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She's like your energy. I just it's very I was like, I was like that's yeah.

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I go okay I could take a note on that. Like I was like yes, I need to breathe.

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I need to relax. Hilarious.

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So this must be such a huge culture shock for you

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then to go from there to whatever.

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And Florida is 100%.

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Here's the thing though, where I am, as you can tell, I'm really great geography.

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Always have been. where I was.

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Are you sure you're in Florida? Are you sure?

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No, I it's also bad when I lived in Jersey, too.

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Like, people are like, oh, I'm from here in new Jersey. I'm like, I don't know where that is.

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Like, I'm horrendous, so I don't worry.

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Yeah. Hoboken, there you go. you know, the, you know, probably not more than me.

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but we're in, in Florida, where I am the great thing is.

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So I'm by, like, Miami, West Palm Beach, Boca, Fort Lauderdale, that, like, strip.

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and they call that the six borough of New York

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because there's so many New Yorkers and you can tell,

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like the people on the road, you're like New York, new Jersey, Florida, and, you know, like you could just you feel the vibes.

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So it's a good it's a good, healthy balance.

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If I need that aggressive spirit, I have it.

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And if I need to chill I have that as well.

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So it's like it's a good, good middle ground.

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Yeah. Well that's nice right?

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A little bit of both. A little bit of both little little

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a little less concrete jungle a little more jungle.

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Jungle. Exactly true. Exactly.

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Yeah. Exactly.

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so what is what does a typical day look like for Erica?

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that's it's every day is different. And I'm so.

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Because I think I would be horrendous with.

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I have structure, of course, because I'm a Virgo,

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but also I would not be able to have business. But within the structure, it's wild.

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but what I try to do every day, I try to move my body in some capacity.

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if it's yoga this today I got on a zoom with a friend for like 45 minutes, and we.

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Dan. Well,

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you know, like, I got to make it fun.

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try and do some mindset stuff. And within there, it's like, okay, what am I doing?

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Maybe I'm recording a podcast. Maybe I'm going to a corporate office and teaching workshop.

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I definitely have clients.

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yeah. It depends. And I, I as a creative need to have

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I need to be stimulated I think creative and also ADHD,

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but I need to be stimulated

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every day with something different.

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well and so let's, let's, let's go there.

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Let's, let me ask you this, right out of the right, out of the box.

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What's a guilty pleasure for you? What's the thing that you do just for, you know. Okay.

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Well, the first one that first came up is I.

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It's so atrocious. And I'm trying, but I love trash television.

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But I'm very specific. Like, I'm very specific.

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I love certain shows on Bravo.

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I know it's I don't judging.

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I'm not this is a judge free zone.

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You know, I'm like, oh, God, it's it's so addicting.

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How how trashy are we talking?

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I really, really jam with the real Housewives, man.

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You are the second guest in as much as a week that it's.

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Yeah. The Real Housewives was his jam. And he was just like, I, I, I don't I'm not that person, but I just love it

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I don't. So my husband rips on me.

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He's like, this is trash. And then he hears it and he's like, so his dream, I was like, oh, so, so,

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so now you know. And he's like, oh, what's going on with Marisol?

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I'm like, oh, how funny. Yeah.

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So I'm like like it's it's it's that level of like, like ears.

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They're genius. They know what they're doing. It's a genius production company.

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You know what I mean? Yeah, they know all the hooks.

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Oh, yeah. I'm like, I'm in, I'm in.

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So I'm sold.

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And I should say really quick. I actually put this in my copy yesterday is for me, you know, for my I'll go back

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really quickly to my, for my work is I felt really ashamed for a long time,

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especially that I did spirituality that I like didn't really fit this.

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And I love the spiritual box, but I didn't really fit the spiritual box

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and I was trying to, like, contort myself and be like.

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And it just was weird. Yeah.

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And now I've come to a place of acceptance like, no, this is great.

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Like I am an ideal coach for so many people.

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That's like, hey, you can watch hours of the Real Housewife and still be deeply spiritual, you know?

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Or you can, you know, like it all coexist, or you can laugh your ass off

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and we can still talk about your trauma. Like it? Oh, you know what I mean?

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Like, I want it all to coexist.

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And that I mean, talk about the universe, right?

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Like that's. Isn't that what the universe is anyways?

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Like this. Just this. It's all of it in saying, you know, spectrum

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of everything all at once.

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It's literally right. A movie with that title.

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Yeah, yeah, I know that would be such an original idea.

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Like it's everything everywhere all at once.

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Trademark TM.

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I love it.

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okay. So,

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we're we're in, we're in Florida, and you

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skip out of your house because you're just in a mood

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and you're skipping down the boardwalk.

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There's palm trees there. Sand.

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There's an ocean of the the origins of which we're not sure.

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Yeah. Like which one? I don't know, we don't know.

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But you're just sitting there thinking to yourself,

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I really wish the world knew this one thing.

19:42

Erica, what is that one thing that you wish the world knew?

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Oh, my God, that's so good.

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What a loaded question. Yeah, I could go in so many directions with that.

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I'll go simple. I'll go easy, because I know it's actually not easy.

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It's not simple, but I'll go like my bread and butter.

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is that

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pleasure isn't dirty. And pleasure can be a healing, a deep healing modality.

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and it's accessible for all people.

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Wow. Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

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unpack that a little bit because it did get a little techie on me.

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Oh, sure. Of course. That's so fun.

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Yeah, I totally forgot about this.

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So for so many people, you know, the idea of pleasure.

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And I'm not even talking about, like, sexual, sensual.

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I mean, we could, but, like, I'm talking about, like, drinking or cambogia,

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you know, or just, like, being in your body.

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the idea of that, some people are like, oh, yeah, that's so easy.

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Like, it's so easy. And then when we actually get to being in our body or being present,

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the stories come up, right? Like you're lazy. That's disgusting.

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That's a a prize that you earn at the end of blood, sweat and tears.

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Right? Like there's so many stories that we have to unpack, like as a society,

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culturally, religiously, family, you know, whatever around pleasure.

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Yeah. and what I found for me, it was so potent.

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I mean, I came resistant with stories. I still do, and I've been doing this work for years.

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And I hit another spot where it's a relationship where I'm like, oh, no.

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Like, now these stories are here and I can work through this.

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but for me, when I had a relationship to pleasure,

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I moved through so much of my anxiety,

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I really had a relationship to self-love.

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I knew how to honor myself, like all these things that I was

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gearing after for years. You know, through my spiritual path.

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I was just like trying to get there, trying to get there.

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I was like, are you kidding? Like, we got here through pleasure.

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Like, are you kidding? and so really, the one thing I would want people to know,

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but the one thing I would want to teach, which I do,

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but is that to make it accessible and to make it just like

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part of, the foundation of someone's life.

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How do you do that? I think first and foremost, you have to present it

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because I think it's a really cute concept. Did you say presents set?

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Presents it? Oh, presents it?

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Yeah. Okay. You're like, excuse me?

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You, there's all these new words like, what's happening with everything?

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I don't even know. I'm so enlightened now.

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It's like, yes, yes, of course.

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you did it right? Yes I will, yeah, yes, I like oh, I did it.

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first of all, you have to present it or like,

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I don't know, get conscious around it or set an intention

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because I think it's easy to be like, I'm gonna have pleasure.

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That's nice. Like you.

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Like we resist this thing so hard.

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And I could say that from personal practice.

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I could say that with working with hundreds and hundreds of people,

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that they're like, that's easy. And then it's like, did like, I'm gonna do anything but pleasure, you know?

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Or I'm going to avoid this like the plague

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because we have so many stories like we talked about, right.

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so first and foremost, I think we got to sit with what stories do I hold around?

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Pleasure. Because you're not going to run towards it if you think it's the most vile thing on the planet. Yeah.

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You know, and then the second is presence. It.

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Could I give you a baby tool? Yeah. I love baby tools. We love baby tools.

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So that way, why not? there's a little, little baby to rattle.

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I don't know, I'm glad you speak my language. Sometimes I'm like, baby, you'll be like, excuse me.

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Look, really, what are you talking about? I mean, I mean, we love the baby talk.

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I'm with you. So the baby tool is, There's a lot, but I'll give you this one is.

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I want you to think about pleasure or. Right.

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If we're like, okay, like, something about this is intriguing.

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How do I start? I always check in with myself throughout the day, and I'm like, okay.

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Like, sometimes I set an alarm or like, it's 1 p.m., how am I feeling?

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And I just like, go internal and I'm like, where am I?

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So almost like on a scale, like we talked about before, who am I?

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Am I like, oh, I'm feeling real crunchy.

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I'm real dusty, crusty, or I'm turned on

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and turned on means like a live, breathing jamming.

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And it's okay if I'm dusty crusty. Sometimes it's appropriate.

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Dusty crusty, you know what I mean? Like, there's there's there's new ones, nuance and disclaimers over this.

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Right. Like, sometimes if we're going through stuff like, obviously we're going to be there.

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But this I'm talking about like in the mundane more just like, I don't know, I'm feeling dusty.

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It's like, great. If we had a dial, how can we dial it up like 1 or 2 more inches?

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I don't need you to be at a ten. I don't need you being, like feathering yourself in groups if you want to.

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God bless. But, like, I don't need you to do that.

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Like it's an option.

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Sorry. What were you saying?

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Just.

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Just processing that one. Yeah, I'm just going.

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I've got a chaise lounge. Yes, that's exactly what I. Yeah, that's.

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Listen, it's available that.

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If that doesn't for you, I support you.

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Thank you. You have my support.

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My signature. Fine print.

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Yeah, exactly. But what?

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I want to get good at what I teach my clients to get good at is just, like noticing where you're at.

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So silly example. Like, pretend you know where you're working and you're just like,

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your shoulders are scrunched to your ears and you're like.

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And just feel and crunch. It's a great how do we up the dial?

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Maybe it's just taking a deep breath, right?

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Maybe it's just grabbing a cup of tea and like, listening to jazz music.

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I don't need you doing anything crazy. It's awareness.

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Yeah. It's space. Yeah.

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I have this this watch which is trying to kill me.

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but I'm fighting back.

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I ran out of batteries before I did the other day, so I'm pretty proud.

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Yes. Oh, yeah. Crushed it.

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But it is. It's now poking me every once in a while, being like, hey, hey, hey,

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how you feeling? And I'm like, yeah, like, it's a little creepy, actually.

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Like, it's. Yeah. But I take its point.

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I'm like, but I haven't, I haven't engaged with it yet because it's.

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I haven't thought about life that way of checking in.

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And now maybe I will. Maybe I'll be just like, okay, Apple algorithm, I'll tell you how I'm feeling.

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Totally. And then you'll know where and when to market to me.

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Exactly. Oh, you're feeling down here's like a bunch of stuff to buy.

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It's so true. But it's.

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But I think you made a good point that it like it's a good reminder of like,

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where am I like so many of us, just like, walk through life on autopilot.

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Oh, sure. Yeah, right. Just like, do we. Exactly.

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It's like a little like we are just like, like all over the place.

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Yeah. And sometimes we're like, what has happened?

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Like literally what just happened? So the point of this is just to get back into our bodies,

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regain consciousness, and feel like we

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are a part of our own life, you know what I mean?

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And we're not just like what happened, like, it's it's Tuesday,

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like it's like, no, we're actually really part of our own journey.

26:54

Yeah. That's awesome. Thanks for that. That's cool.

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Of course I'll take baby tools all day long.

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We love baby tools. The tools. so. Do you read?

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Are you a reader who loves reading?

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I do what it like.

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and it doesn't have to be business stuff.

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Doesn't have it. What? What do you read? Like what? What do you go back to? Or what's.

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What do you think of when I say, what's your favorite book or books?

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Of course. Self-Help. Like it's annoying, but then I need a break.

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Like I've had, you know what I mean? Because it takes me five years sometimes to go through one book.

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I'm like, I'm processing. So I'm someone that needs to have like a rotation.

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So right now, like I had I was like, I have to book in this.

27:38

Like I had to have like a dumb beach read, then to read about narcissists

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and then read and then a book or and then to true, you know what I mean?

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Like I need to, I need to, otherwise I can't like, it's

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just too much do all self-help and it's sometimes just too much to do all fiction.

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So I like to mix it up. But reading is so huge for me. I love it.

27:59

And, do you have a title that sort of jumps to mind is one that you would recommend?

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An Erica we the late talk recommendation?

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Oh, my God, that's such a good question. I it's funny, the sidebar I have,

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you know, when people like, I usually book recs like just like type

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I'm like of course. And I have like aggressive like Canva, like, they're like, oh my God, I just wanted a one book recommendation.

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Can you calm down?

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yeah. Yeah. Like here's all the resources. They're like, oh, God.

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so yes, what's my favorite?

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I don't mind my French, but for anyone,

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that identifies it, part of me this is.

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But the book is called Pussy by Regina Thomas Power.

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And it's a fabulous, fabulous book

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about reclamation of that word of the body.

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Like, it's just that's one that that comes to me.

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And, I recommend to a lot of my clients.

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Nice. We're one.

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We're rebels. We can say. We can say that word. Yeah. Like Hootie

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content warning.

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Yeah, like, oh, no,

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that's great. Okay, we'll put that. We've got a, like a little bookshelf going on our website.

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We'll put that as a Erica recommendation.

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Love it. It's great.

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Love it. Very cool. so.

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When Erica is out doing stuff like, let's say that

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Erica and and hubby and we'll just I'm just making this up

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because I don't know what is a place that you go to

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to just sort of unwind and what what does that look like for you?

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Just to let the let the world know that you're you're cool.

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Oh, I love that.

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Well, this is Florida edition. So I suppose the pool, I suppose the beach.

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but have a pool. Of course you have to go.

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You have to you there's.

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You literally have to just smell your ass off.

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Otherwise you get off the plane. Here's your pool.

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Let's go. Let's do this.

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Oh, my God, there's this.

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I love this place. Yeah, this is great.

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love those options.

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this. I'm, like, embarrassed. Well, I lied, there's.

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It depends what season of life I'm in. Like, if I'm in, like, my.

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And this is I'm kind of in my easy vibe right now.

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All right. so I'm feeling more of, like, the acupuncture, the,

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like, you know, the yoga, but, like, when I'm in, like, a spicy season,

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I'm like, let's go dancing. Let's try this restaurant. You know?

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Like, it just depends on season of life I'm in, you know what I mean?

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That's cool that you recognize you got seasons. Spicy season I like spicy hashtag spicy season.

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Okay. I mean, the name of the episode America's

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especially,

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I love it.

30:48

okay, so you have a predilection for trash television.

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We've is, of course. What is,

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are you, like, a Netflix person or Prime or Crave or anything like that?

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Like, well, here's the like sin. Yeah.

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Is that like, I have an acting background and.

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Yeah, I want to ask about that. Yes. So here's the sin of it all.

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Is that like, I love

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I love movies, but I also don't like I love movies,

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but I don't I don't sit down for them a lot.

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Oh, really? Yeah. Is that interesting?

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Yeah. I have to be like, okay, it's the here's the vibe.

31:29

I'm going to sit down for this movie, but like, I have to gear up a little bit more

31:33

than, like, TV. Yeah. yeah. Well, it's shorter, shorter form.

31:37

It's the ADHD thing. And I also like to feel I feel productive.

31:40

Yes. I got down in episode. I'm gonna be totally honest.

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You're winning. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I am successful.

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Yeah. Erica's got a spreadsheet.

31:52

Nailed it. I really like

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season two.

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literally. yeah. It's my inner Virgo.

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Like, I crush that.

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Tell me about this acting. Yeah.

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It's so great. obviously, now that I'm in Florida, it looks very different

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than being in New York. But,

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so I did feel like community theater.

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Like, like, just so I could actually. My friend Rhoda, I love you. Theater.

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I love for community theater.

32:23

Right. It's so good. And I just did, like, such,

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I actually have lifelong friends. So I went to community theater at eight years old, and I have lifelong friends.

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Like, the best, the best, like, you know, the bad like.

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And the great stories. And it's something that will bond you for life, you know? Yeah.

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so I did that for years, obviously. And then I pursued it more professionally.

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Sag-Aftra, Actors Equity, the whole whole thing.

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Yeah.

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yeah. Do like tons of voiceovers. Did theater.

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I went to school, actually, for theater, theater, musical theater and theater.

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And then I was attracted to film and TV.

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So just like, dabbled. Yeah.

33:04

Dabble. Dabbled in the ball.

33:07

Yeah, there's a lot. It's a it's a big pool to dabble in.

33:10

It's a big pool. Yeah, it's a big pool.

33:16

you said your friend wrote a play.

33:19

Well, I guess so. He wrote a screenplay about,

33:24

And then I'm like, I wonder if everyone had this. But our community theater was so wild for, like, did that happen?

33:31

Like, just so insane.

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and so I probably can't divulge too much, but he.

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It's just the most hilarious thing.

33:41

It's hilarious.

33:43

And I'm like, this is. Yeah, it touches upon what we're kind of talking about.

33:47

Yeah, yeah. There's a, I want to I want to say that there's,

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there's a community theater film that just came out like, okay, is it like camp or something?

33:57

Yeah. Yes, I know I was, I was saying that I was like, oh my God.

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Yeah. Yes. I was like, yeah, it's it's on my list.

34:05

I haven't watched it. I went to Theater Camp two and Huv.

34:08

I tried to escape. I really tried to escape, and I hated it so much.

34:12

Oh, yeah, I can see that.

34:15

Your parents. My parents, like we paid a fortune for this.

34:17

I was like, please pick me up. This is a nightmare.

34:19

Oh my God, really?

34:22

But listen, you gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah.

34:24

It's true, so true.

34:27

okay, so

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one of the cool parts about the show is that we get to share our experience

34:33

with others. And there could be others that are, you know, on the verge of doing something.

34:38

Oftentimes I'll say it's the Wiley Coyote moment

34:40

where somebody steps off the ledge and they haven't quite yet

34:44

realized that there's nothing underneath their feet.

34:46

Yeah. You know, you know, the one I'm talking about. And then you double down and then the little sign comes up, and then.

34:52

So what advice would you give to those?

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We call them rebels in waiting.

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people that are about to embark on a new adventure. Maybe it's moving to, from Jersey to Florida.

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Maybe it's starting a practice to help people find their mojo.

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I love that, you know, it's so funny.

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I feel like that when I. And I'm continuously in that space.

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But like, when I'm in that space to gear up

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and I'm like, okay, I have to kind of

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not like jump without the net. Like there's a lot of trust that's involved, right?

35:24

Like, oh my gosh, I'm stepping out. I'm stepping out.

35:28

those have been some of the most like profound times of my life.

35:32

And it's I'm not going to say it's not scary as hell like it is.

35:36

It triggers, you know, it can trigger and be triggering and scary.

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And honestly, it's been the most profound, rewarding experiences.

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That's what taught me who I am.

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Like, you know, so, the reward is bigger than the risk.

35:52

Yeah. Or the the the fear. Wow.

35:56

Yeah. The reward is bigger than the fear.

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Yeah. I remind myself that to.

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Yeah, my right outcome.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm like yeah yeah definitely.

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You know it's what she's up

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with. The higher self said yeah exactly.

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Trust our.

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Don't trust me. Yeah. No no

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I cannot be trusted okay

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true. Like I said this has been so much fun Erika

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thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your story

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and your how you help people realign the universe.

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I think it's beautiful. Thank you. This was literally a ball.

36:32

I'm so glad we got to do this. So thanks for having me.

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