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love . Everybody . Go to mine here for

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the wreck show Podcast man

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. Welcome to episode

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. I think this is episode one 12

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and if I'm wrong I'll go back

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and post editing and change that . But yo

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, man , we got a special surprise

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man . Nobody knew this was coming . So

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y'all gonna be geeked out when y'all hear about my guests

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. But yo , two weeks ago we

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had the one and only DJ

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Boston man From

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roots to roots and branches Dot

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org . So I need y'all to go check

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out that episode . Man , sacramento

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, california , doing

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big things . Man , the way he thinks about

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his art , crazy man

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. The impact because he's a teacher , definitely

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even more impact man . So I need y'all

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to go ahead check that out on the YouTube channel , but then

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also on all the podcast

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DSPs , and Go ahead

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check out like I'm slowly . Right now I'm

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on episode number 78 , so I'm working

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my way backwards to get all

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of the previous episodes uploaded

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to YouTube as well , so y'all will

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be able to check those out , slowly

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but surely before the end of the year . I'm working my ass

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off on these man . So one man

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band over here but yo , today we

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are going to Brooklyn , new

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York . He's a

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you know Brooklyn music producer , a

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DJ , a centrifugal

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force record label owner

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. Been producing music

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and writing like just intricate rhymes since

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the mid , late , mid to late

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1980s man . So

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as long as I've been alive he been doing

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his thing . They interviewed from

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everyone like super duty , tough work , which is a super

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dope podcast man . I need y'all to

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check out I'm gonna link that in description to show

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as well Interviewed

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from like global beat , cypher swatches

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and boomboxes Never

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near podcast . That was a dope episode as

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well and plenty more man . So if

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you go to his link tree man , you'll see all of his

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, his , his

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interviews as well . He's been featured on

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band camp's best hip hop of 2021

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list for the Parada

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album . And then also you

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can't leave this out man he's a member of the Adams

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family with Alaska sip

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one , paul Justin

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Ard , vast Ari I hope I'm saying

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that right vast Ari , vordul

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, mega and wind and breeze

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, which at one point have like 35

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members , which is in the collector , which is crazy . That's

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not the hurdle . That's bigger than Wu Tang Yo . But and

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then he's also released some albums beyond

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human comprehension , which is also

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available at the Center Center

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of the web . Got ban cam calm

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man . So he's a lover of hip hop . He's been in this

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hip hop game for a very long time . I

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know he's got the jewels y'all and for a

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treat . He's also an active activist

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who's been on the front lines . You

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know when he had this , you know just big pro protests

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and Human

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rights . I ain't gonna say civil rights , I'm talking human rights violations

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, man . So Yo , he's been , he's seen some things , he's done

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some things . I

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need y'all to welcome the one

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and only cryptic one to this show . Cryptic one , thank you

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for being on the show .

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Welcome , oh man thank

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you for having me that . That was

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a long intro , man . I

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feel like I was learning stuff about myself

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.

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Yeah , I was hoping you do your research . I

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love it . Yes , sir , yeah , I got mama said

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come correct or don't come at all , man . So

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that's what I do , man , so , yeah , man . So thank

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you for being on . Show , man , how

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you feeling , how you doing today I'm feeling great , despite

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.

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Being on three hours sleep right now , but

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I'm here and , yeah

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, for some reason I still have energy , so I'll probably

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crash the second . This interview is over . I'm gonna hit the couch

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and pass .

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I got you , man . Thank you for . Thank you for giving

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me a little bit of your sleep time , because sleep time is super valuable .

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Yo , yeah , it's necessary

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, especially at this age . Yes , sir .

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Yo , man , so Listen

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. I only gave the

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listeners , man , the mutants are the , you

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know the beat verse , man , a little bit of

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your like , not

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the scography , but you're like your story

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man , just everything you've been doing , doing

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your biography . Is

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there anything that I've missed that

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you've done ? Or Any

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collect on any other collectors that you've been , have been

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a part of , or anything like that ? Um , yeah , man .

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I've been , like you said , I've been doing this for a long time

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. Um , I actually calculated

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it yesterday I've been making beats for 35 years , which

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is crazy for

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me . Um , so yeah , man , I've been a part of

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a lot of collectives . Um , there's

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a lot of stuff you missed , not

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Any

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slight on your research , but , like

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I've just been doing this long time , if

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you were to list everything that I've done over 30 years , that

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would probably be the whole podcast , right

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? So

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you hit hit a lot of major

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points . Um , adam's family was a big Um

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chunk of my history . Still cool with those guys was

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with , uh , just one art last night actually . Um

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, what else have I

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been a part of ? I ? Um

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, I did the score for a documentary

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called adult rappers came out in mid 2000 , um

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, which I think it's a I

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don't want to say must watch , because I don't like telling people what to do

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, but

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I think it's valuable for anyone trying to . It's about rappers . But even

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if you're a beatmaker , anyone trying to make

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music , your career Um , kind of talks about , um

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, I guess , blue collar Rappers

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that were doing it for careers

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, because there was a period where I was just living off of music

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. Um

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, and

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it sounds glamorous , but it's , it's

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not . But

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, um , yeah , what else did you miss ? I

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don't know , man , I make beats mostly

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. Now I still rap . Um , sidechain

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society is something that I'm a

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part of proudly . Uh , shout out to stolen

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drums for putting that whole thing together . Um

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. So , yeah

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, man , that's pretty much it . I guess we could

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fill in the blanks with questions and stuff , but

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yeah , I don't want to to take

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up the whole intro rambling about everything

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that I've done .

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Yeah , yeah , I , I definitely left a lot

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out , um , just because they're , you know

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, like you said , 35 years

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plus of of doing

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your thing , man mcn , and you

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know doing scores and and

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albums , and man , that's

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yo . Yeah

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, everybody says that , um , they

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want to do music , um

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, they want that to be their full-time job

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. Um , but I don't think they

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understand what goes into

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Making that happen

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, making that a reality , that

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the time that you have to spend the energy

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, the monetary resources

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, your energy resources

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, you know , I'm saying like what , what

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is it , um , that has

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kept you doing this for so long

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?

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Um , just just to clarify

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, I don't do it for a living anymore . Um

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, I have a , an actual job

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, mainly because of

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what you said , of how stressful

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it is to be a full-time musician , and

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the problem I had with that

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was it started affecting

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my art , you know , and , um , this

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is my therapy . Man Like this keeps

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me sane , um , in

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an insane world . So this

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is my outlet , it's , it's , it's

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not even a choice at this point is what I have to

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do , um , and I love it

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. So when it became

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a job , it became

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a job , you know , and and people

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don't love their jobs , you know , right

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, I , I actually

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was , I wasn't forced

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to , but I kind of like took a step back . So

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I stopped after I was doing it full-time

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for about five or six years . I completely

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left the scene . I just Cut

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music out of my life because it was so stressful

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, um , so I didn't

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make music for like four or five years and

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then , um , when

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I decided to come back that's why I mentioned

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that film that was instrumental in in

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me coming back um , the

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offer to do that , and it

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was just kind of um , I made

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a promise to myself that I was going to do this Only

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if I was enjoying it . In the second

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, I stopped enjoying it . I take a step

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back from the business side

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of it and Get back

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to what I love doing , and that's just making music

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and sharing it with people . So I

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try and find a healthy balance between the business

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and the art , um , but I want to lean more

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towards the art and um . It's

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a . It's an endless struggle , man . It's

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every day . I have to kind of remind myself

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, like when I get stressed about some business things

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that I didn't handle , um , I

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got to remind myself that this , this is supposed

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to be fun first and foremost . So

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, yeah , that that's . That's where I'm at .

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I got you . Yeah , man , like I

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, um . Yeah , I

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was listening to your story on um Super Duty

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, tough Word podcast , man , and just you

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talking about you know your resurgence

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, your , your um , your

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rebranding , like your reintroduction

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into um , creating

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um music , because you did take a step

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back , um , and I

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thought that was so , uh , critical

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when you were talking about it , because at

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some point , like Enough

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is enough you know what I mean Like the business side

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or whatever is going on , like something's

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gonna break um , and then , or

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you're carrying too much and you might have to like

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Put down something for a

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little while you know what I'm saying Just so you can get back your

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, your sanity , um

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, so I , I got to link that episode

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, man . That was a crazy episode , man . I

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appreciate um , prince

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, I think it's print um , and

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Then who else is on

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it ? Logic , logic . Yeah , it

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was so , man , that was

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um , that was a . That was a Very

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good interview , man , um . But I gotta

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ask you this too cryptic

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one how did you even come

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up with that name ?

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um , how did I come up with that name ? It

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was uh , so I used to be a graffiti

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writer . This is gonna be kind of a long

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story , but I don't think I've ever told this story

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before I used to be . I

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used to be a graffiti writer and , um

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, or when I was Trying to

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become a graffiti writer , I should say I was just

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like scribbling letters on

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On paper

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trying to figure out like what my name was gonna be

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, and I gravitated towards

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certain letters and certain combinations of letters

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and that became what

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was my name at the time , which was it's

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terribly wack name , so please don't

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make fun of it . But it was called . I

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was fazy , it was p-h-a-z-e-e

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and when

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I started rapping , um

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, I used that also for my name

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and I kept writing raps

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that were , um , kind

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of coded , like I never said things in

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a straight up way . Like if I was gonna say

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, um , it's raining

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cats and dogs in a rap , I wouldn't say that

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, I'd say it's precipitating canines

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and felines , you know , and like little

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like Cryptic

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words , right , so cryptic saying

16:27

. So I literally wrote in one rap

16:29

, fazy , the master of the cryptic rhyme

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, saying and then that

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became fazy , the cryptic one

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, and then , when

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I was putting out my first record , it became

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my name . I got rid of the phasey , I

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realized how wack that was and it just became the cryptic

16:45

one and then I eventually dropped the duh . So

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, yeah , that was the journey to cryptic one

16:50

. It's , it's , it's

16:53

the perfect description of how I write my

16:56

raps . They're never really Fully

16:59

straightforward , they're cryptic and meaning , you know

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, so you have to decipher them . So

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, yeah , that that's who

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I am and it

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just felt like the right name and

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it stuck with me for however

17:14

many years . I think I officially became

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cryptic one in 1990

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. And yeah , incredible

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, incredible , but that's

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, that's been a minute .

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Yo , because when you , when I'm listening to your , your

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, your words , man , your , your art

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on your album , I

17:36

can tell like you're , you're

17:38

, you're set . I can understand . Just

17:40

because I like listening to lyrics , man , I'm

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I'm a lyricist , so if you say , is something

17:45

worth listening to , like I'm picking

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up on it , I'm trying to decipher what

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the MC is saying . So you definitely

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have your own style , which I do definitely

17:54

appreciate , and just the way

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you put your words and the

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right like yo , man , y'all got your

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listeners , y'all got to go check out . If

18:03

y'all don't know about cryptic one , y'all

18:05

got to check it out . Man . So his whole discography

18:08

I'm a link in the description of the show . I'm

18:11

telling you he's going to be a new favorite

18:13

MC and we've got some dope

18:15

as MCs , people that make music

18:18

but then also have their

18:20

, their poetry spoken word

18:23

in their raps as well , man . So he's definitely

18:25

, you're definitely one of them . That's

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amazing . Nobody's ever heard of the story of

18:30

how you got your name .

18:33

And I don't think anyone's ever really asked me . Man , I think

18:35

you're the first man .

18:36

Wow .

18:37

Ground .

18:38

Wow , wow , all

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right . So , all right , I'm on the . I'm on the right

18:42

path , then , all right , let's keep it moving then . Ok

18:46

, so let's

18:49

let's talk . We're going to go back into your history just

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a little bit and

18:53

I'm going to start it off with , like

18:55

, growing up , like

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who was who was playing

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music ? What types of music were

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they playing inside

19:04

of your , your household when you were growing up or

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when you were , you know , riding

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around with whoever , where there'd be

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brother , sisters , aunts , uncles

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, mom , dad you know what

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type of music that was influencing you

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.

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It was my parents mostly . They

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had a small record collection which

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I later stole . I

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still

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have still have the records they gave to

19:30

me . My father is an avid

19:32

music guy , like he's . He collects records

19:34

as well . I'm not allowed to touch

19:36

his stash . He still

19:38

still goes out and buys records and

19:40

he has the basements full of . He

19:42

has 45s that I still to

19:44

this day . You know I'm a grown ass man

19:47

. I'm scared to touch my father's records still . Wow

19:52

, I know he has some gems in there , but

19:54

they always play music around the house

19:56

. It was a wide variety of

19:58

things . Like you know , I was born in

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the 70s , so like it was like

20:03

the Beatles , it was like

20:05

soundtracks from like , from

20:08

theater , like the soundtrack

20:11

for Hair and Jesus

20:13

Christ Superstar . I'd hear stuff like

20:15

Three Dog Night . I'd

20:17

hear Marvin Gaye , it would be all over

20:20

the place . It wasn't really too much jazz , but it was

20:22

definitely like a lot of rock and soul and

20:26

then later disco . But

20:29

it was my sister who really kind

20:32

of opened my ear to

20:34

hip hop , which was later , you

20:36

know , because hip hop was really just being born

20:38

. I

20:41

remember one specific day . This

20:43

is after I moved to Long Island , so I was probably

20:45

around like six years old . We

20:48

had a little basketball hoop in the front and I'd

20:50

always be out there shooting and I

20:52

just heard something coming from my sister's

20:54

window and my sister's seven

20:56

years older than me , so like I'm not allowed to

20:58

touch her stuff . So I had to like wait

21:01

until she left and

21:04

I snuck in her room and I was just going through her

21:06

record trying to find what she was playing

21:08

and I came across this record called

21:10

the groups , called the Disco Three

21:12

, which later became the Fat

21:14

Boys , and it was basically like

21:17

someone beatboxing and some

21:19

rap and that was the first time I ever heard

21:21

hip hop and I

21:23

was like this is my music . Yeah

21:26

, it must have been like seven or eight years old at

21:28

most . And

21:31

yes , since then it was just like a quest to find

21:33

more . I literally would like

21:35

anytime my mom would go shopping to the mall . I'd

21:38

like crack open my piggy bank and and

21:41

go to the mall and go to this place

21:43

called record town and the owner knew

21:45

me . He'd give me a crate so I

21:47

could stand up and reach the records . Like that's

21:49

how , how young I was and I would just literally

21:52

there was no rap section at the time because hip

21:54

hop was not like mainstream yet . So

21:57

I just flipped through and really just look at the

21:59

names and pick out anything that sounded

22:02

like it might be rap and bring

22:04

it home . So that's also how

22:06

I got my love for digging . So

22:09

shout out to my family man , it's

22:11

my parents and my sister .

22:13

Yo , yo shout out to shout to sister

22:16

, the fat boys man . I

22:18

just remember growing up looking

22:20

at I can't remember the name of the movie , but

22:22

they were in it . They were trying to be like

22:24

nurses to try and get something .

22:26

Oh there were some sort of leaves .

22:28

Yeah , that's it . There's sort of leaves man

22:30

and I was like

22:32

, because they started like beep , I'm like , what is that ?

22:35

Exactly , exactly the

22:38

same energy . I was like what is

22:40

that and why have I never heard it before

22:42

, and where can I get more of it ?

22:45

So , man , yo fat

22:48

boys is the start . Man Shout out to mom and

22:50

dad . I hope your dad like lets you

22:52

touch some of the records eventually .

22:55

Yo , I'm going on Thanksgiving . Maybe

22:57

this will be the time I actually get the courage

22:59

to ask him .

23:01

He probably will let me .

23:02

I'll bring my portable turntable and just

23:05

sneak down there while they're eating food .

23:09

So he has his own like listening then like

23:11

where he listens to his records and stuff .

23:13

You know , I don't even know if he listens to him anymore

23:15

. To be honest , like I just think he

23:17

he's just like I

23:20

went through it too , like I'm actually I'm going

23:22

through it . I have a bunch of records I bought that I haven't listened

23:24

to yet . I think

23:26

he just likes collecting them . At this point , he listens

23:28

to a lot of the stuff that he couldn't find

23:31

digitally . So he's , he's discovered

23:33

that , and

23:36

you know , records take , take up a lot of space

23:38

. And but he's still . You know he has a couple

23:40

turntables he has . So

23:42

I don't know , I don't know if he actually makes time to listen

23:45

to him . I got to ask him next Thursday

23:47

.

23:48

Man , that's going to be a . That's

23:51

going to be a . That's a dope conversation

23:53

, like do you , you and your dad like talk about

23:55

music regularly

23:57

, or is that something that connects y'all ?

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We don't really talk about it much . We used to go

24:02

digging together . That was kind of like

24:04

a bond , like in Long Island I'm

24:07

sure they have other places there but there was a specific

24:09

record show that we used to go

24:11

to is like in this kind of big warehouse , and

24:14

there would just be vendors you

24:17

know a bunch of vendors

24:19

, maybe like 30 to 40 vendors selling

24:21

selling all types of vinyl . And I would

24:23

just go and my

24:25

father would know , like , like

24:29

if I was looking for specific records I'd given

24:31

the titles and the years and the label

24:33

and stuff and if he came across it he'd pick it up

24:35

for me . So that

24:37

was kind of our bond . But it was never really a bond

24:39

about the music , because I like

24:41

different music than he liked . I

24:44

later became a lot more open

24:47

minded about music . But he was super into

24:50

do op and I was at the time

24:52

super into like soul

24:55

, funk , jazz

24:58

, that sort of

25:00

thing , and

25:02

obviously do op is kind of the beginning

25:05

of soul . So I really

25:07

should have a love for it . But

25:09

I think it was that kind of rebellious , like I

25:11

don't want to listen to what my parents listen to . Stay

25:14

in my life , you know .

25:16

Right , right , yeah

25:18

, even though it still influences

25:21

you to this day . Like I just remember

25:23

my mom listening to Patty Lebel

25:26

and Prince Mary

25:28

J who else

25:30

she listened to ? Man , she listened to a lot

25:32

of them right down the street . That's

25:34

when people were blaring their music in

25:37

the house and you could hear it outside the house . You know

25:39

what I'm saying . Like they were listening to Smokey

25:41

Robinson , the OJs , like yo

25:43

, everything was just blaring

25:46

. We could hear the music walking up

25:48

and down the street , man , whether it

25:50

didn't matter like what demographic

25:52

they were blasting the music , even

25:54

going to the corner store , man , they

25:56

was blasting the music . Man , that's what it was

25:58

, not

26:00

, you know , not the coffee shop music that we hear today

26:03

. You know what I mean . So

26:05

, but , man , that's amazing

26:07

and I just want to make sure everybody knows

26:09

. Like the disco three , man

26:11

, they were a critical part in hip

26:13

hop as well , because , as we celebrate

26:16

50 years of hip hop

26:18

, the disco three , originally composed of

26:20

Mark Prince , mark ED Morales

26:23

, damon Cool , roxie Wimbley

26:25

and then Darren Buff , love Robinson

26:28

we lost one of them , maybe

26:30

. I think it was maybe 10 years ago , something

26:33

like that . But yeah

26:35

, man , they I don't think they get talked enough

26:37

about enough , kind

26:39

of like .

26:40

They don't . They kind of get almost

26:42

ridiculed like even

26:45

you know , because they

26:47

were fat boys . Right in the title it's

26:49

kind of like funny and they joked

26:51

around a lot . So I don't think people historically

26:55

look at them as serious rappers . But they were

26:57

serious man . They had a huge influence

27:00

on the culture . But

27:03

, hopefully they get their due .

27:05

Yeah , because they help influence

27:07

, like Bismarck E and Sure

27:09

who else ? Dougie Fresh , like

27:12

come on man , like

27:15

who was doing it before ? Dougie Fresh and Bismarck

27:18

E , and you know it

27:20

could be a lot of people doing that , but in

27:22

the mainstream I like it was

27:24

the fat boys and then

27:26

it was the fat boys doing movies

27:29

, like who was doing that before ?

27:32

Like Vems and 1DMC

27:35

, and they all toured together

27:37

too , so like they were a

27:39

huge part of it . And yeah

27:42

, shout out to the fat boys . No one

27:44

says that enough .

27:45

Yeah , man , yo . So yeah

27:48

, man , shout out to your sister , man Blasting the music

27:50

. Man , you had to go sneak in there . I've done that a couple

27:52

of times because I'm like yo , what is it ? What

27:55

are they listening to right now ? Find

27:57

it and be like all right , I'm going to go to the . I'm

27:59

. I couldn't go to , like , the record stores

28:02

because I didn't have enough dough , but when I got enough

28:04

money , I'll go to the bootleggers

28:06

. They were the second best thing . There you go and then

28:08

I get the albums . You know what I'm saying ? So , man

28:11

, either , any way , you could get it . Man , I

28:13

was , we was going to get them albums , the CDs

28:16

or the cassettes , whatever it was man

28:18

. So , man

28:20

, I got to ask you about when you

28:22

started making , when you

28:24

started rapping , man , when you started MCing

28:27

, what sparked

28:29

you to even want

28:31

to start telling

28:34

stories , which arounds me .

28:36

Um , I know

28:38

the point where I started taking it more

28:40

seriously , like I had always . Like . Since

28:42

I heard rap , I was like , oh , I think one of the

28:44

things that drew me to it was that it

28:47

was accessible . Like all I needed was my imagination

28:49

and a pencil and a piece of paper and I

28:52

could . I could do this music . I

28:54

don't have to , like , learn guitar or

28:56

learn to sing , you know . Um

28:58

, so I think early

29:00

on I started writing , but I took it seriously

29:02

. Once I heard Big Daddy King Like

29:04

that was I was like , okay

29:07

, this is on some other level

29:09

of shit and , I won't lie

29:12

, I bit his style . I

29:14

would copy his , his entire

29:16

verses down in my book

29:18

and then , just like , change the words

29:20

to like I put my name in where

29:22

he had his name and change some

29:24

metaphors and similes around , and

29:27

that would just be kind of

29:29

that was my way of learning

29:31

was to blatantly

29:33

steal someone's

29:36

style , which you know

29:38

, I think . I think that's

29:40

a valuable lesson for for

29:42

people . I think it kind of

29:44

gets lost today because people , um , they

29:47

go from like here's my first beat

29:50

and automatically

29:52

it's on Instagram and they're already sharing it . So

29:54

, like , um , it

29:57

was a big part of my development in every

29:59

aspect was to like see something

30:01

that I liked , blatantly

30:04

, steal it and copy it until I got good enough

30:06

to do my own thing . But

30:10

, um , had I released any of those

30:12

early things , people probably would have made

30:15

fun of me for being a fake big daddy

30:17

cane and not not you

30:19

know . So it was instrumental

30:22

in my learning , but I think

30:24

it's that's one thing that's kind of lost in the culture

30:26

of like sharing everything , um

30:29

, immediately .

30:31

Hmm , speaking speaking of

30:34

development , man , because even

30:36

in , you know , music production , beat

30:38

making , music production , composing , um

30:41

, there's a development period

30:43

that happens , um , which

30:46

I'm still going through . I only been doing

30:48

it for six years , maybe seven years , but

30:50

it's , it's

30:52

just learning

30:55

different styles , different techniques

30:57

. What

30:59

would you say , like the would be the best

31:02

way , um , for

31:04

either MCs or beat

31:07

makers to properly

31:09

develop themselves , to be the best they can

31:11

be before you know they

31:13

, they put out music . You know

31:15

what I'm saying ?

31:17

Like um , I'd say it's the same . It's

31:20

like anything man . Like the best way to

31:22

to get good at things is to do them

31:24

Right . Like I had this conversation

31:26

with someone yesterday , like I

31:30

had when I first switched over to Ableton

31:32

. I had the push and I didn't make

31:34

a beat on it for like seven

31:37

months . It's just sitting here . I'm

31:39

like , damn , did I waste my money ? Like what am I doing

31:41

? And all I

31:43

was doing during those seven months was watching

31:46

YouTube tutorials and reading the manual

31:48

, and but

31:50

that didn't really help me learn anything . What

31:52

helped me learning was turning it on and

31:55

making some really wack beats

31:57

for a while and then getting good at it . So

32:00

I think I think the key to developing is is

32:02

just to to just

32:04

to make music make bad

32:06

music or , you know , like I

32:09

think that's one of the things that people get caught

32:12

up in . I still get caught up in it , and

32:14

you said that you're still developing . Six years in , I'm

32:16

30 something years in and I'm still developing

32:18

. The stuff I make today is different than the stuff I

32:20

made last year and year before . That

32:22

just because I am

32:24

always trying to either

32:27

like I hate using the word , but I'm trying

32:29

to be better than the last version of myself

32:32

, and the reason why I hate

32:34

using the word better is because it's all subjective

32:36

, right ? So

32:38

you know it's

32:40

. It's the

32:43

. The big key that I would say in developing

32:45

is try and be kind to yourself , your

32:48

current self and your past self , so

32:50

that your future self can develop , which

32:54

is hard , because sometimes

32:56

I listen to stuff I made 10 years ago . I'm

32:58

like , oh man , what

33:00

was that snare Too

33:03

loud , what was I thinking , man

33:05

, or you know ? And it's

33:08

hard to turn that brain off . But

33:11

at the same time I got to be kind to myself and be like

33:14

oh , there were some good ideas there . I

33:16

didn't have the skills yet to develop

33:18

them , and now I do . So

33:20

now I won't make that mistake , but

33:23

I'll make other mistakes , and I

33:26

don't know who gets credit to the for

33:29

the quote , but I use it a lot . I

33:31

say it's important to fail forward . So

33:35

just realize you're going to make

33:37

mistakes , you're going to make errors . Not every beat

33:39

is going to be your best beat , but

33:42

that's what you have to do . You

33:45

have to keep making stuff until you hit

33:47

the gems .

33:50

Yo , you giving them crazy gems right now

33:52

. Man , be kind to yourself

33:55

, man , listen

33:57

. Man , we here with Cryptic One . Man

33:59

, listen , you're giving your jewels . I hope

34:01

you're picking them up . Everybody , internets

34:04

, make sure you're all listening , man

34:06

. Yeah

34:08

, man , that's one of the things

34:10

I had to learn too . Is , you know

34:12

, beat like I didn't know about

34:14

certain things when I was just first starting

34:17

. And I did the same thing , man , when I bought my

34:19

, my groove box , my machine

34:22

MK3 , it sat there

34:24

for eight , nine months and

34:26

I was just on YouTube just watching

34:28

stuff and I wasn't really like it

34:31

was in there but it wasn't really sinking in

34:33

until I actually applied it and

34:35

really just did everything hit

34:37

the buttons , turned the knobs , mess

34:40

with the , you know the doll and

34:42

you know all that type of stuff . And

34:44

then , okay , let me put something out

34:46

. And then I listened to it in

34:49

my headphones . It sounded a certain way

34:51

. But then when I take it , burn a CD , take

34:53

it to the car , I'm like oh

34:55

oh , okay , I got to adjust this , adjust

34:58

that . You know trial and error . So

35:00

, like you said , fail forward

35:02

, man , that's all . That's all .

35:04

This life is man , it's just yeah , exactly

35:06

, and it it applies to everything . It's not like

35:08

it's weird how we expect to be good

35:10

at it right away , you know , just by reading

35:12

a book or watching a video . It's

35:14

not like , let's go to basketball

35:17

, I'm going to read a book on basketball and then jump on

35:19

the court and crush everybody . Like

35:22

you got to be out there and

35:24

you got to . You're going to suck for a few years before

35:26

you get good man it's

35:29

, and sucking is a bad word . Like

35:31

you know , you got to learn and the

35:33

best way to learn is just jump in headfirst

35:36

. And 30 years , I'm

35:38

still learning that because I've had to push three for

35:40

like five months and I hadn't been making anything

35:42

on it , I just been

35:44

performing with it and like

35:47

for the past two weeks I was like , all right , I'm just going to make a

35:49

beat every day with

35:51

no intention . I'm not releasing them because

35:54

I don't think they're any good , but now I'm starting

35:56

to learn the machine . You know so it's

35:59

. I'm constantly learning

36:01

and relearning the same exact lessons

36:04

over and over throughout my life , right

36:06

, right .

36:08

That's all . It is this

36:11

. What did I say when my mom said ? She said

36:13

, uh , this life is like a training , it's like a playground

36:16

man . So you know , you can learn

36:18

, learn different things . You can learn anything

36:20

you want to learn . Man , do anything

36:22

you want to do . It's just you got to put

36:25

the time and effort . You know what I mean . The

36:27

failure which , for

36:29

somebody like my , I don't like the

36:31

word , I don't like failing at anything

36:34

. But you know , after you

36:36

know spending a lot of time just like

36:39

trying to be a perfectionist in

36:41

quotes . I

36:43

wasted a lot of freaking time and I wasted

36:45

a lot of time trying to just

36:47

be perfect , seem

36:49

perfect . You know like , come on man . Nobody

36:52

, nobody fucking cares . You know like , come on , man

36:54

.

36:56

Exactly , we put too much pressure on ourselves

36:58

, man . But it's what it is

37:00

Pressure . The pressure , I don't know it's . It's double

37:03

edged sword . I like to put the pressure on

37:05

myself because it makes me want to get better , but

37:08

then I know the pressure is stress Right

37:11

, stress themselves out .

37:13

Hmm , man , I got

37:16

to ask this man . You have been so many

37:18

, so many years

37:20

doing this man and dedicated

37:22

time and energy doing

37:25

this . What , what

37:27

would you recommend besides the one that you recommended

37:29

before the

37:32

documentary that you scored ? What

37:35

resources would you recommend for the listeners

37:37

that's on their journey with

37:39

either you know creating

37:42

beats or creating

37:44

rhymes ? What resources would you

37:46

recommend they either read , listen

37:49

to or watch ?

37:52

Um , I'm going to add one

37:54

. You said Listen

37:57

to or watch . I'm going to add one is

38:00

join , like become , become a part

38:02

of a community . For me and

38:04

for beat makers , sidechain

38:07

society has been kind of life changing . You

38:11

know it's a producer community where there's

38:14

a few hundred , I think , members

38:16

not everyone's like super active

38:18

. I haven't even been active lately , but I

38:22

learn so much every time I

38:24

jump into the discord or jump into

38:26

one of the zooms . Zooms happen every Thursday

38:29

. Um , there's

38:32

so many talented people in there , from people

38:34

who are nominated to nominate

38:36

for Grammys to like people who just started

38:39

making beats that year , and

38:41

everyone's kind of on a level playing field and

38:43

there's so much knowledge and information

38:46

and everyone looks out for each

38:48

other and tries to help each other and

38:50

it's become kind of More

38:53

than a beat making community like its

38:56

family at this point . But

38:58

I would say , even if you're not going to join

39:00

sidechain , like , find a

39:03

community that that you can vibe off of . And

39:05

it's easy to find that because the internet makes

39:07

it easy , so I don't care if you're in the middle of nowhere , you

39:11

can find a community of like minded people

39:13

and bounce ideas off

39:15

each other Like . It

39:17

doesn't have to be like a Like

39:20

an official thing . It could just be like you

39:22

know , you win like five of your beat maker friends , like , yeah

39:24

, every Thursday let's get together and play

39:26

beats for each other on Zoom or

39:29

some shit like that you know . So

39:33

that , that , I think , is an important Aspect

39:36

of this all . As far as like

39:38

Actual resources

39:41

, yeah

39:43

, I don't know . Man , like I

39:47

would say , there's a lot of podcasts . Super

39:50

Duty Tough Work that you mentioned is a great

39:52

one for anyone who's going to try

39:54

and be an independent musician . They

39:58

drop a lot of gems in blueprint

40:00

has been doing this as long as

40:02

I have . So he , he knows what

40:04

he's talking about . He

40:07

did music for a career like

40:09

three or four times longer than I did

40:11

. So Dude has all

40:14

the knowledge and he shares all the

40:16

knowledge with everyone for free on

40:18

the podcast . So I would check that

40:20

out . Yeah , I mean , that's all I got right now . I'll

40:25

interrupt you later when another one pops in my head .

40:27

I got you , I got you any time

40:30

, you know , just like just go ahead and blurt it out , man . So

40:34

you were

40:36

said you were learning and I've seen

40:38

you performing lives with

40:40

Ableton . How

40:44

has I don't I don't know

40:46

what type of other machines that you've used , but how has Ableton

40:48

like

40:50

kind of shaped the way you create

40:53

your , your , your music ?

40:56

It was a big game changer for me when

40:58

I finally decided to learn Ableton . I've

41:01

used a million different machines . I still have a bunch of

41:03

them . I've

41:06

used a lot of different software Excuse me . I was on Logic for about

41:08

10 years and then

41:11

, when I got the push

41:13

to , mainly because I just wanted to start learning finger drumming

41:15

and I just like the

41:18

way the pads feel on the push . So I was like , ok , now

41:20

I got to learn Ableton and

41:23

, to be honest , I hated it . I hated it when

41:25

I first got it and not the push . The

41:27

hardware was great , but I did not like Ableton

41:29

. I didn't like

41:32

the way it was set up . It didn't

41:34

make any sense to me to be 100 percent honest . But

41:36

then , once I sat there and made beats on it every

41:38

day and forced myself to learn it , I saw the

41:40

beauty of it and

41:43

for me Ableton it's the one piece of

41:45

software that I'd say kind of morphs

41:48

itself to whatever

41:50

workflow works for you , whereas most other things

41:52

you have to kind of adapt

41:54

to their workflow . Because

41:59

I know , you know , we all know a million people that

42:01

use Ableton and I don't

42:03

think I've ever seen two people use it

42:05

in my life . I don't

42:07

think I've ever seen a person use it in my life

42:09

. I don't think I've ever seen two people

42:11

use it exactly the same way . And

42:14

that , to me , is what

42:17

really like connected me

42:19

to it , because I do a little weird things that I've

42:21

never seen other producers do . And it's not

42:23

like a brag , it's just kind of , you

42:25

know , come from a different era . I just do

42:28

things differently . The way I chop samples

42:30

is differently than most , and

42:32

Ableton lets me do it that way , whereas

42:35

, like you know , not to

42:37

an SP 404 , but I have

42:39

one , I have the Mark two . I love

42:41

the machine , I love what people do with

42:44

it , but I can't chop the way I like

42:46

to chop on it . So

42:50

I don't even remember the question you asked , but it

42:52

was about Ableton . So

42:55

, like that just seemed when I started performing

42:57

. It seemed like that was the right way to go

42:59

for me to perform on Ableton

43:01

Because I had

43:04

the push . I had the laptop , all my

43:06

beats were on there , like let me figure

43:08

this out . And then somewhere

43:11

through that I was like you know I really was . I was

43:13

going to a lot of shows , obviously

43:15

. I was performing , like I don't know , like three

43:17

or four times a month . It's at a point and

43:20

you know , everyone has SPs . And

43:22

then I started to get that envy Like

43:25

damn , I need an SP . And then the mark

43:27

you need one now , yep . I

43:30

was like that's the piece I need . And then

43:32

the mark two came out and I got it and I

43:34

kind of learned how to use it for performing , but

43:37

I never really got comfortable with it . And

43:40

then , um , then the push three came

43:42

out and I was like , all right , well , I happen

43:44

to have the money , Let

43:46

me get it , and that's what

43:49

I'm going to perform on and that's what I've been using since and

43:53

unfortunately my SP has been

43:55

kind of sitting here collecting dust so

43:57

I may sell it soon . We're

43:59

going to sell it or really learn how to use it . I haven't figured

44:01

out which Don't

44:04

sell it , that's

44:07

what other people ? say that's what a lot of people have

44:10

told me , except the people who want one and they're like , yeah

44:12

, sell it how much .

44:13

Yeah man

44:15

, you know , these machines is like

44:18

man , it's so many

44:20

different ways to create music . Man

44:22

, um , cause I was at um

44:24

, uh , just

44:26

, uh , just this past Wednesday

44:28

. I was at , uh , today's future

44:30

sound at a beat battle . Um

44:33

, that , uh , philip Drummond was

44:35

, dr Egon was putting on um

44:37

at Texas State University and

44:40

I seen him . And I seen another

44:42

doc , um , just creating

44:44

music . And I'm looking at your , I'm looking at him . It's

44:46

so many pads , you know what I mean

44:48

. It's so many knobs . I'm like man , like

44:51

how are y'all remember

44:53

? It's color coded ? Like , how are y'all remembering

44:55

what the press and everything

44:57

like that ? So , man , it

44:59

throws me for a loop , but I , I mean I'm pretty

45:01

sure I could sit down and you

45:04

know game from you . Or you know the

45:06

thousands of other beat makers

45:08

that use Ableton , cause they say Ableton is

45:10

a game changer when you're trying to create

45:13

chop the warping and you

45:15

know , all that type of different things .

45:17

So um , it's

45:19

a game changer . It's hard to go back

45:21

for me , it's hard to go back to

45:24

something else . It's like , um , a little

45:26

more streamlined , a little , uh , less

45:28

complicated it . You

45:31

know , like when I go to , I

45:33

have a lot of hardware , like I have a Kias

45:35

and I 50 , I have a SR 10 , um

45:38

, you know , I have the SP , few

45:41

other little things here and there . It's hard

45:43

for me to go back because I'll start

45:45

making a beat on it and I'm like , ah man

45:47

, if I could just time stretch that

45:49

one little piece of the sample , it'd

45:52

be perfect . And then I wind up dumping

45:54

it into Ableton . And then now

45:57

I'm back in Ableton and I

45:59

keep coming back to it because I don't

46:02

know . I guess I'm a bit of a control freak , Like

46:04

I know exactly what I want and

46:06

I can do everything

46:09

I want in Ableton . I can't do everything I want

46:11

in the other pieces . Um , but there's

46:14

something to be said about those limitations . Um

46:17

, like , working around the limitations

46:19

of machines is definitely , um , a skill

46:23

I need to to relearn . Um

46:26

, I see a lot of people do a lot of amazing things

46:29

with with minimal equipment

46:33

and you know like it's

46:36

possible . You know right .

46:37

Yeah , yeah , man

46:39

, definitely , definitely possible . It's , I

46:42

think , um , and

46:46

just watching documentaries and reading

46:48

different books and stuff like that is , it's the

46:52

limitations that they had

46:54

back in the day like shaped

46:57

the sound that we still appreciate to this day

46:59

. So limitations are not a bad

47:01

thing , and so you know

47:03

like if they would have had like

47:05

limitless time to sample

47:07

who knows what we could

47:09

have , what we could have had , you know so

47:11

, but they only had what ? 10 , 15

47:14

seconds of sample

47:16

time sometimes , and then they had to chop that

47:18

up , slow it , speed it up , slow

47:20

it down , like it's yo man , it's

47:22

all , um , it's

47:25

all . How you use it basically is what it comes

47:28

down to .

47:28

Yeah , I mean , that's the era I came up in , so

47:30

I I missed those limitations . But

47:32

then you know , the

47:34

unlimited sampling time has spoiled

47:37

me Right .

47:39

So right . So I mean

47:41

, do you and this

47:43

is just a random question but do

47:45

you put any limitations

47:48

on yourself when you're creating ? Um

47:50

meaning like any

47:52

time constraints , or you

47:55

know any instruments you can use

47:57

, or anything like that ?

47:59

I do sometimes . Um , like

48:02

, the biggest

48:04

limitation I put on myself was time

48:07

. Like I've done a few things

48:09

kind of on Instagram where

48:11

I was doing that . It was one thing I

48:13

was doing called Saturday sketches , where every Saturday

48:15

I'd wake up , I set a timer

48:17

. I think it was I want to say it was 30

48:20

minutes . I just set a 30 minute

48:22

timer and whatever I had finished

48:24

is what I uploaded that day . Um

48:26

, and that really got , I don't

48:29

know , got my creativity going and got my um , you know , my speed

48:31

up . Like

48:35

I , I trusted myself

48:37

more , I think , um , just because

48:39

I didn't have time to second guess . You

48:42

know , the first snare that I liked , that's the one I picked . I

48:45

wasn't going through like 400 snares because that

48:47

takes 10 minutes of my 30 minutes , right . So

48:50

you know , it's like you learn to like kind

48:53

of just go with um your

48:56

instincts and gut feeling as opposed to

48:58

thinking about things too much . So

49:00

that was super um

49:03

helpful lesson and I

49:05

really want to get back to doing that . Plus

49:07

it's . You know , we're all adults

49:10

at this point . So , like time is is very

49:12

valuable . So if I could cut

49:14

down the time that it takes me to do

49:16

something like mine I do . These aren't like fully sequenced

49:19

out long songs

49:22

, you know with mad changeups

49:24

, but you know 30

49:26

minutes knock out a good idea that I could

49:28

flesh out later that that was the shit

49:30

for me .

49:33

Man , yeah , I , um , I saw that

49:35

. Uh , I think I saw that

49:37

. When did

49:39

you ? When did I see that man ? That might've been a few

49:41

years ago when I saw , um , you

49:43

doing it . I saw a floor bomber start doing

49:45

it , I saw Jay Filt start

49:47

doing it , um , and I was like you know what

49:49

, let me time myself , man . And then you're

49:52

right , it does speed up

49:54

your decision making , cause you don't have time to

49:56

just you don't have time

49:58

to mess around and just like maybe

50:00

I can try this . I mean , no , this is what you

50:02

have . All right , you got the sample shot

50:05

, the sample . You got the drums . All right , pick your drums

50:07

, make the drums , shape the drums

50:09

. Okay , put you know , put it together

50:12

a little bit . All right , 10 minutes is up

50:14

. All right , on to the next one type of thing .

50:15

So , you can always go back

50:18

in and change it . But , like I

50:20

think , getting out a lot of ideas quickly

50:22

and stacking them , I

50:24

think it's a it's a great process , Works

50:27

for me .

50:28

Right man , um man

50:31

, and speak speaking of process man , I

50:33

always cause I'm about to start talking

50:35

about your music , um , in a

50:37

second . But I just wanted to ask this like

50:39

what , what

50:41

do you do when you first sit down

50:43

in front of your you know

50:45

your beat machines or your keyboards ? Like

50:48

what is the very first thing you do

50:50

or think about as you're about

50:52

to embark on the creation journey ?

50:55

Um , it's changed so much over the

50:57

years and now it's kind of like a hodgepodge of things

50:59

that used to be drums , cause drums

51:02

is kind of like the thing I

51:04

take the most like pride

51:07

in or the thing I put the most effort

51:09

into . So it used to be drums , but

51:11

, um , now it's kind of whatever . Whatever

51:14

hits me , like I'll just a

51:16

lot of times it's just listening to records , like

51:19

I try and like throw on a record . You

51:21

know I have a lot of vinyl , um , so I'll

51:23

just throw on a record and let it play while I'm like cleaning

51:26

the studio and , like you

51:28

know , you're a beat maker . So you know , sometimes

51:30

you'll hear those like three seconds of magic

51:33

and like this whack ass song , oh

51:35

, there it is , and then I have to

51:37

stop sample that and that

51:40

gets me going . And next thing , you know I'm adding drums

51:42

and picking a bass sound , playing keys

51:44

on it or whatever . Um , but

51:47

it could start that way . It could also just start from , you

51:49

know , like having

51:51

a Rhodes VST

51:53

up and like playing a chord and starting

51:56

there , or it

51:59

could start any way . I

52:01

I used to really

52:03

be , um , the

52:06

kind of person who was like don't force it , just wait

52:09

until it happens . And

52:11

now you know , again

52:13

, back to being an adult . You don't have that luxury

52:15

, um , because of the time . So , like , if

52:19

I'm going to sit down and make beats , I'm going to

52:21

make sure I make a beat . You know , like

52:24

that , that's , that's the end goal is

52:26

like , cause I used to , you know , I'll start working

52:28

on something like , ah , these drums aren't working , let

52:30

me throw it out . And then , like , the

52:32

next day I'll come and do the same thing . But now

52:35

I'm like , if I sit down here

52:37

, I'm making a beat Like

52:39

it's a , it's enough of a sketch for , like

52:41

a rapper , to want to wrap over or

52:43

whatever . It may not be like

52:46

fully fleshed out , but I

52:48

make something that that is , that

52:50

I can call a beat and then move on . And

52:53

then like , like what I've been doing

52:55

now cause , like I said , the past few weeks I've been

52:57

making beats every day again Um

52:59

is , I'll wait till I have , you know , like

53:01

30 or 40 , and then I'll go back and listen to

53:03

them . And you know , hopefully

53:05

there's one or two that I'm

53:08

like , okay , I have something there

53:10

and then then work on it further . Um

53:13

, yeah , I hope that answers your question . I

53:15

don't know , I feel like I kind of dodged it , but

53:17

I got you .

53:19

I understand , like it's

53:21

a process , man , um , cause

53:24

everybody starts . There's some some , you

53:27

know , you know , clean up the studio while they listen

53:29

to it , like you just said , listen to the , listen

53:31

to the record , and then they hear something , boom

53:33

, okay , now I can start . You know , sample , chop , you

53:36

know all that type of stuff . Some

53:38

people , um , sage

53:41

, some people smoke , some people , you

53:43

know , drink or you know , just

53:45

shroom , like whatever it is

53:48

, whatever it is that gets the creative juices flowing , like

53:50

that's what they do , man . So

53:52

, um , I just figured I had to , I had to ask

53:54

that . Now I thought I'm thinking , like

53:57

people , everybody don't start

53:59

the same way , so it's

54:01

just different ways of looking at

54:03

the uh , creation , music , creation

54:06

of music process , so , um

54:08

, but , man , I got to talk to you about your music

54:11

, man , which I enjoy , and

54:13

I think , uh , the listeners first time

54:15

listeners , um , if they've never heard

54:17

of you , they'll go back and you discography

54:20

and start from the very beginning . Um

54:22

, am I saying this right ? Parada

54:25

, yeah , parada , yeah , parada . Man , so

54:28

um , parada had a limited

54:30

edition cassette . I can't believe I missed

54:32

that because I'm a cassette collector , damn Um

54:36

yeah , I couldn't believe I quit that

54:38

soul man .

54:38

The cassette was the first thing to go .

54:41

Yeah , man . So um

54:43

Parada man , like what , what

54:45

that album

54:47

? Um , what

54:50

was the meaning of that album ? Let's talk about that .

54:53

Um , it's kind of how could I explain

54:55

it Like Parada

54:58

is . It's kind of Jess . Uh , Jess

55:00

is a the producer who produced it long time

55:03

friend . Part of Adam's family was

55:05

chilling with him last night talking about the next Parada record .

55:07

Um , look at that , oh well

55:09

, we got another one coming . What it's

55:12

it's .

55:12

Well , he's got what we're what we're going to

55:14

do . Actually

55:16

, I don't know if I should talk about it fully , but , um , there's going to be multiple

55:18

Parada records

55:20

with different rappers on it , um , and Jess is producing

55:22

all of them , um

55:25

, but yeah , I won't

55:27

get into details of that , but what it is for me . I think everyone who's

55:30

doing a Parada record has a different kind of take on it , but

55:34

for me , like you know , parada is is Spanish for pirate . So

55:38

I looked at it like in

55:42

the ways that we were part pirates that we would steal , like these

55:46

snippets of sound from older records

55:48

, um , and , you

55:51

know , use them for our own wealth , so

55:54

to speak . So

55:56

we were pirates in that manner . It's

55:59

also kind of just like my

56:01

take on on living

56:03

and growing up in New York , just

56:07

kind of it's a big metaphor

56:09

for , like , you had

56:11

to kind of be a pirate to survive

56:13

here . You

56:17

know it was . It's really

56:19

like a one endless metaphor that

56:22

has multiple meanings . Yeah

56:26

, the records all over the place . It's some

56:28

of it's about activism , some of it's about

56:31

, you know , seeing

56:33

witnessing hood shit . Some of it's

56:35

about digging for samples . Yeah

56:39

, I hope that explains

56:41

it .

56:41

Yeah , yeah , cuz I wanted to ask you about Um

56:44

Ostrich syndrome . Hmm

56:46

, what is Ostrich syndrome

56:49

?

56:49

Yeah , um , it's , you know , an ostrich

56:51

Went

56:53

to avoid a predator . It literally hides

56:56

its head in the sand , sand

56:58

, right , yeah , so like it was just kind of

57:00

like . It's

57:03

a song about People

57:05

lying to themselves to protect themselves

57:08

from danger , and

57:10

it's not really a

57:13

judgment , it's just kind of like how

57:15

we all kind of do it to some , to some

57:17

degree , and

57:20

Sometimes it can be good for you to lie to

57:22

yourself to avoid the danger , and other times it

57:24

can be worse than the actual danger

57:26

. That's that's kind

57:28

of what that song is about . Shout

57:31

out to you for asking that .

57:32

No one's ever asked me about that song like

57:35

, like , I like , I said

57:38

I'll be listening to the music

57:40

, man , and then I listen to the lyrics , man

57:42

. So I was , you know , I understand that

57:44

. But somebody that may

57:46

not be Up on

57:49

your discography will be like whoa , whoa

57:51

, like I should , syndrome , and then it's

57:53

gonna get them thinking Let me go listen to this song

57:55

, man . And then they start , you

57:57

know , just noticing things that you

58:00

know people do and

58:02

sometimes it's out of survival . When you

58:04

, when they had that astro syndrome , you know it's like

58:06

out of survival . Or or

58:10

if they do act like you do , like

58:13

who's an activist , you actually do something

58:15

and everybody's not going to be able to Do

58:18

the same thing . Some people's revolution is

58:20

Music , some people's

58:22

revolution is , you know , march , and

58:24

some people is political , some people is

58:26

cooking , some people's , you

58:29

know , I mean , like everybody's revolution is different

58:31

. So yeah

58:34

, I just figured I asked about that . That's , this is

58:36

a dope album . Everybody . So Cryptic

58:39

ones at discography again is gonna be linked

58:41

in the description of the show man . So go

58:44

ahead , click the link , man , and just take a ride

58:46

, man , take a journey , and if you know

58:48

, if you feel it , support it . Man , cuz

58:50

the way I see it , and everybody who

58:53

knows and who's ever heard the rekt show podcast

58:55

, y'all know if , if

58:57

it's recommended and you click it , man , it's

58:59

an investment . Man , buy it because

59:01

it's an investment for the artist

59:04

to keep making more Music

59:07

, more art . You know , I'm saying so . Yeah

59:10

, yeah

59:12

, man . Um , and

59:14

you are entrepreneur , I gotta , I gotta

59:16

, say that too , man . So you know , you had

59:18

a pirata hot sauce , the t-shirt

59:20

with the bundle man , like , yeah

59:23

, like man . I've never seen anybody

59:26

have their own album related

59:28

hot sauce before . Like , where did that come from

59:30

?

59:32

I love to cook , I make hot sauces

59:34

, and when people come to the crib

59:36

, like sometimes we just have people over

59:39

, you know , friends , and I cook . I

59:41

love to cook . As to me , as shit is like making beats

59:43

, and you know I'll give him a hot

59:45

sauce . They're like yo , what is this hot sauce ? And I like yo , you

59:47

should sell this . And I'm like hmm , hmm

59:51

, that was the idea for that . But also

59:53

, like I try With

59:56

every release to have some sort of unique

59:58

merchandise , just

1:00:02

to kind of like set it apart . The people who support me

1:00:04

, they kind of I don't know if they expect

1:00:06

it , but they definitely support it . And

1:00:08

you know , just kind of my

1:00:10

way of like being creative in

1:00:12

another , in another way

1:00:15

, and tie it into

1:00:17

the music , like for the next physical

1:00:20

release . Like we haven't

1:00:22

talked about my album new beginnings , which , um

1:00:25

, that's , that's the beats , so

1:00:27

it's like 37 instrumentals . It's

1:00:30

been out on Spotify for a couple years

1:00:32

or all streaming , but , um , I

1:00:34

have the vinyl now , the cassette and

1:00:36

CDs . I have

1:00:38

them like literally here . I have to like get all

1:00:41

the marketing stuff . But the unique

1:00:43

thing that I did with that is I

1:00:45

made my own incense , because I burn

1:00:47

incense at the house and I was like wonder how hard

1:00:49

it is to make my own incense . And

1:00:51

I researched it . I'm like I should , I could

1:00:53

do that at the crib and um

1:00:55

, so yeah , this is gonna be incense sticks with

1:00:57

the next album .

1:00:58

So Scientists

1:01:01

, marketing

1:01:04

genius .

1:01:05

That's it , man man

1:01:08

, I just like I like to learn new things . Man , that's

1:01:10

really what it is . And we have so much

1:01:13

access to information Now

1:01:15

that when I was growing up I didn't have I

1:01:17

, there was no . Youtube didn't exist yet

1:01:19

. So , like fact that Anything

1:01:22

I want to learn how to do , I could type it on

1:01:25

a computer and suddenly

1:01:27

have like a hundred videos

1:01:29

showing me how I can do it . I'm like , okay , let's

1:01:33

learn to do shit .

1:01:34

Right , right , man , and

1:01:37

as I , as you're talking about new beginnings

1:01:39

as well , which

1:01:42

I think I remember the story of you telling me about

1:01:44

the album cover where you took

1:01:46

, I think you had a camera , but then

1:01:48

it was some type of device that

1:01:50

you had to , where it made it look like it's like

1:01:52

a 360 degree view or

1:01:56

something like that .

1:01:57

Yeah , it's a 360 camera which

1:02:00

I've been using those for about like

1:02:03

maybe nine or ten years now , but

1:02:06

they get a more popular , the technologies getting

1:02:08

better . But it was just one

1:02:11

day . It snowed a lot and I'm

1:02:13

in Brooklyn . I'm lucky enough . I don't know if you can

1:02:15

hear my dog barking she's going .

1:02:17

No , it's alright , it's alright , it's

1:02:19

alright .

1:02:22

Yeah , yeah she's , she's a good

1:02:24

protector of the equipment . But

1:02:28

, yeah , so it snowed a lot , snowed like a

1:02:31

little over a foot and I went in the backyard

1:02:33

. I'm like , damn , I got to take a picture

1:02:35

of this . And I was like I'm just gonna get my 360

1:02:37

camera and I took the shot . I took one shot

1:02:40

usually I take , like you know , 1015

1:02:42

to try and get the right one but

1:02:44

I wasn't even intending it for the album cover . But

1:02:46

the second , I uploaded it to

1:02:48

the computer and looked at it , I was like , oh , this is the

1:02:50

album cover , right

1:02:53

, right , this is it . I don't even know what

1:02:55

the next album is gonna be , but this is gonna

1:02:57

be the cover . It

1:02:59

kind of worked out because the

1:03:01

whole concept of new beginnings was

1:03:03

I started , it was on

1:03:06

January 1st and I

1:03:09

decided every Friday that year I

1:03:11

was gonna release an

1:03:13

Instrumental song . Like

1:03:15

I didn't want to call it a beat because , like

1:03:17

most of these beats have like Progressions

1:03:20

and change ups and like I

1:03:22

consider them songs . So I

1:03:25

Was like every Friday

1:03:27

I'm gonna do it and at the end of the year I'm gonna

1:03:29

collect them together and call out an album

1:03:31

. And I didn't do it every

1:03:33

Friday . I missed some Fridays because life

1:03:36

gets in the way , but

1:03:39

I did . I think I did 39 or 40

1:03:41

and then

1:03:43

I could only fit so much on the vinyl , so I had to

1:03:45

narrow it down to 37 of them

1:03:47

. But

1:03:50

yeah , that was the whole whole story behind

1:03:52

that in the picture . Shout

1:03:54

out to 360

1:03:57

Cameras . If you don't , if you're not familiar

1:03:59

and you want some , like , interesting

1:04:01

, cool , unique content . They're

1:04:03

getting a little more popular now , but I would look

1:04:05

into one and , matter of

1:04:07

fact , hit me up on Instagram because I have a couple and

1:04:09

I'm probably gonna be selling them soon .

1:04:14

Yeah , man , you know , I was looking at the car . I'm like how's

1:04:17

you even capture , catcher

1:04:19

all ? And then , and then I just remember you

1:04:22

saying about the 360 camera

1:04:24

. I'm like , wow , it really it's

1:04:26

just yo , the , and

1:04:28

look like you're looking up , it

1:04:31

looks like you're looking up , but then everything is surround

1:04:34

like it's like a high-fresh ball or eyeball

1:04:36

type of view . But

1:04:38

man , it's um , that's a dope cover , man . And then

1:04:40

I've been seeing you recently and talking about the , the

1:04:45

physicals coming out . So physicals

1:04:47

are already ready to go , ready to ship .

1:04:50

They're ready . I've just been , to be a hundred

1:04:53

percent honest , I've just been kind of lazy getting

1:04:55

all the marketing stuff . This

1:04:57

is that , that business art balance

1:04:59

that I was talking about . Like I was stressed out because I like build a website

1:05:01

for it and all this other

1:05:03

stuff and I do 90%

1:05:06

of the stuff I do myself . So I was stressing

1:05:08

out about all the business stuff and I was like , okay , I

1:05:11

need to take a step back . So

1:05:15

for the last Three months they've

1:05:18

been sitting here , but

1:05:20

it's time to get them out in the world . I

1:05:23

spent the money on them . It's time to . It's time

1:05:25

to Make some money back , hopefully

1:05:28

, because you

1:05:30

definitely don't sell records that are just sitting

1:05:32

on a shelf With

1:05:34

no no way for anyone to get them . I've

1:05:37

sold a couple of shows , so shout out to

1:05:39

everyone that comes out to the shows . Man , that's

1:05:42

been my life blood for the , the whole

1:05:44

year pretty much Performing

1:05:47

.

1:05:48

Yeah , performing and and congratulations

1:05:50

. I know you have a lot of like milestones on your

1:05:52

music too , but , um

1:05:54

, fysm just turned

1:05:56

10 years old . Yep

1:05:58

, yeah , 10 years old this

1:06:01

year , man . So congratulations

1:06:03

on that . Like , how do you feel about you

1:06:05

know , when you have an anniversary of Something

1:06:07

that you created and you put out to

1:06:09

the world ? Is , you know , five

1:06:12

years , ten years , 15 , 20 years

1:06:14

later , you know if

1:06:16

people still rocking with it ?

1:06:18

Yeah , that that's the thing that really

1:06:20

like that touches

1:06:22

me is that people still fuck

1:06:24

with it , or or people just

1:06:26

now discovering it and they like it . Yeah

1:06:31

, man , sometimes we we get hard

1:06:33

on ourselves and like , ah , man , I could do things

1:06:35

better , why isn't this working out

1:06:38

? And then you get a DM

1:06:40

from someone that's like yo man , congrats

1:06:43

on FYSM . Man , I gotta tell you

1:06:45

that this one song or this one line

1:06:47

really spoke to me like that . That's

1:06:49

what , that's everything to me

1:06:51

, man , that that's Keeps

1:06:54

the battery in my back charged . Yeah

1:06:58

, shout out to anyone who's ever , ever

1:07:00

gotten anything from my music , man

1:07:02

, y'all , y'all , everything .

1:07:05

That's what it's about . Man , just I'm

1:07:08

they . I can't remember who just talked

1:07:10

about this , but they said um , you

1:07:13

know , if you're making music , don't

1:07:16

make it To be

1:07:18

like self-serving . Make

1:07:21

it so other people can take something from it

1:07:23

and you know whether it's inspiring

1:07:26

or just helping them get through their day or Whatever

1:07:29

. But at the same time , you get that release of

1:07:31

creating and then you know expressing

1:07:34

yourself . Expressing yourself , yeah

1:07:36

, but it shouldn't be self-serving .

1:07:38

No , I mean it was major . It is

1:07:40

that it is a great gem

1:07:43

. It's

1:07:45

kind of cool that it's really like a

1:07:47

cycle , you know , like I sit here and

1:07:49

I make the music , then I give it to someone else , they

1:07:51

listen to it and then they tell me that they got

1:07:53

something from it and that gives me something

1:07:55

to make more , and then just keep that

1:07:58

that energy flowing , you know .

1:08:02

Man , man , um , one

1:08:04

of my , one of my favorite albums that you have

1:08:07

created , the anti-mobia

1:08:09

strip theory , man , um , and

1:08:13

we'll talk about it real quick as I know time but

1:08:15

, man , I just thought that was

1:08:17

a very , very

1:08:20

introspective album

1:08:22

, if I can say that . Um , for

1:08:25

sure , there's a , there's a lot happening

1:08:27

in this album . Man , can you go

1:08:29

into like , what

1:08:32

, what , what made you create this

1:08:34

album ? And you know , just write the way you were writing on this album , because

1:08:38

you have guest appearances as well too . So

1:08:40

, yeah , um , for that

1:08:42

album , asap rock . You got on there , man , like , come

1:08:45

on . Man .

1:08:46

That's . That's the homie man . Yeah

1:08:49

, that album . It was my first solo album so

1:08:52

I really wanted to put a lot into it . And the one big Thing

1:08:56

for me with that album , it was the first time

1:08:58

I ever wrote anything that was personal , like

1:09:01

life shit you should . You know , used to just

1:09:04

be rapping a rap , like bragging

1:09:06

, or do creative things with the bragging

1:09:08

or tell stories or like that

1:09:10

, but like

1:09:14

actually getting into like my real life and my issues and Problems

1:09:18

and depression and put that

1:09:20

in the song . It wasn't really done Much back then

1:09:22

and I definitely had never done

1:09:24

it . So

1:09:27

that's what I went into the album Thinking

1:09:31

like I'ma pour my soul into this

1:09:33

. You know there's some rapping and

1:09:35

bragging on it too , but , um , I

1:09:38

think the heart and soul of that record is really

1:09:41

just me being honest

1:09:43

, um , with Myself

1:09:47

, really not even I never wrote

1:09:49

it like with the intention of it's kind of weird that this

1:09:51

is coming up after . You said that we should . We both agree that

1:09:53

you shouldn't be self-serving , but

1:09:57

this was totally self-serving . It

1:10:00

was kind of like my way to get out the stuff that

1:10:02

I didn't feel comfortable talking to people about , and

1:10:04

I think I coded a lot of it , um

1:10:07

, you know , with my crypticness

1:10:09

, um

1:10:11

, where I kind of felt safer talking

1:10:13

about it in that form than like Walking

1:10:17

up to a person and be like yo . I've been depressed

1:10:19

for the last year about this , you

1:10:21

know . So , um , that's

1:10:23

kind of the story behind behind that

1:10:25

album . I don't know

1:10:27

if I've done an album like that

1:10:30

since . Um , I've had songs

1:10:32

here and there that were personal , but , like as a whole , there's

1:10:35

there's a lot of of

1:10:37

um , deep

1:10:40

, uh for lack of a better

1:10:42

word deep , uh , traumatic

1:10:44

things that have happened in my life , kind of

1:10:47

contained in in the lyrics on that one .

1:10:50

Yeah , you definitely . Uh , anybody

1:10:53

that goes to listen to it , you know , as we're

1:10:55

talking about , you can research it and , um , listen to it on your

1:10:57

own time . But , yeah

1:11:00

, man , I , um , I definitely felt , I

1:11:04

felt the like , the real life . You

1:11:07

know lessons and you

1:11:09

know everything that was going on throughout that , throughout this

1:11:11

album , man , so that's why it's one of my favorites , just because

1:11:14

you

1:11:16

know , we , all , we , everybody's going through something . There's

1:11:18

nobody on this earth that's not going through something

1:11:21

. Um , but

1:11:23

you know , it takes

1:11:25

a certain type of individual to say you know what

1:11:27

I'm a , I'm

1:11:29

gonna write this down , write what I'm going through , you

1:11:32

know , create the , you know

1:11:34

the , the music for it , and then

1:11:36

put it out so A

1:11:39

wider audience can

1:11:41

hear it instead of just yourself . You know what I'm saying . Like , that's

1:11:45

um , and and again , that's not to

1:11:48

me , that's not self-serving , because if you didn't do that , who knows if

1:11:50

we'll be talking to you right now ? Yeah

1:11:52

, you know so . So

1:11:54

I appreciate you for doing that because now I

1:11:57

get to talk to you about it , you

1:12:00

know me , and then everybody else can listen to it

1:12:02

and you know , take something , take something from it and help their life and

1:12:04

, you know , just get their their life better . You

1:12:08

know , um

1:12:10

Um

1:12:13

, yeah

1:12:16

, yeah , we'll go on for the next one

1:12:18

, but that's question Um

1:12:21

. But yeah , I just enjoy

1:12:23

that . I enjoyed that album when I listened to it , man

1:12:25

. So , oh , thank you . But

1:12:27

man um , your

1:12:30

Showcases

1:12:32

, man um , you do a lot

1:12:34

of shows , um , recently you did

1:12:37

, I think was donut lounge .

1:12:40

No , I didn't do . Don't I'm doing donut lounge

1:12:42

this come in Saturday , I

1:12:44

did . They have this other thing where you go to their

1:12:46

studio and do like a

1:12:48

performance in front of a green screen , which

1:12:51

was super fun . Shout out to donut

1:12:53

lounge , man , they're great . If you

1:12:55

ever come out this way , you definitely should check

1:12:57

check out donut lounge .

1:12:59

Yeah , man , donut lounges , yeah , I've

1:13:01

been tapped it in for the last few years and

1:13:04

I think they do it , like , once a month in our arcade

1:13:07

, and you know it's just a fun

1:13:10

atmosphere . That's what this is about , man , just you

1:13:12

know , having fun , peace , love , unity

1:13:14

, having fun , you know . So Donut

1:13:17

lounge has the right idea . Keep it going

1:13:19

, man . Um , because they also

1:13:21

host world emcee , which is , you

1:13:23

know , getting the emcees out there to spit

1:13:26

their lures . They do it on top of rooftops . Yeah

1:13:29

, like yo man , they

1:13:31

really have come a long way for

1:13:34

where they first started . So the

1:13:38

your showcases

1:13:40

, man , when you go into a beat

1:13:42

, showcase what

1:13:45

, what goes through your mind

1:13:47

as you're , like , either

1:13:49

picking beats or , you

1:13:52

know , practicing , and like what , like what

1:13:54

goes through your brain as you're going

1:13:56

through that whole process to get ready for a beat show

1:13:58

.

1:14:01

For me it's . I picked what

1:14:03

I call Bangers

1:14:05

. Like when I make beats I dump them into iTunes

1:14:07

and I listen to them and then I kind

1:14:09

of rate them . I'll give like it's

1:14:12

just for my own personal opinion

1:14:14

and sometimes the ratings changes as time

1:14:16

goes on . But like , these are my five star

1:14:18

beats , these are my four star beats , these are the the

1:14:20

trash ones will call those one star beats

1:14:22

and , um , I

1:14:25

Try and pick at least 50%

1:14:28

that are my quote-unquote

1:14:30

it's a weird word to use because I

1:14:32

don't really have any hit records , but these are my

1:14:34

hits . You know , like you're probably gonna see

1:14:36

those . It most shows I do and

1:14:39

then I just kind of experiment and like

1:14:41

Swapping different beats

1:14:43

that I haven't played out before or what

1:14:46

have you . That's my general

1:14:49

process . Lately I've

1:14:51

just been playing like 80

1:14:53

. 90% of the set is Stuff

1:14:56

from new beginnings because I know I'm about to

1:14:58

release the physical , so I want people

1:15:00

to get to familiar with those songs . But

1:15:04

yeah , it varies . I did Make

1:15:08

a promise to myself . I don't know if I'm gonna

1:15:10

keep it because I'm kind of it's

1:15:12

kind of intimidating , but I told myself

1:15:14

that next year when I start doing

1:15:16

shows , 50%

1:15:18

of them are gonna be beats that I've never Played

1:15:22

out before , like brand new beats that

1:15:24

I made Currently

1:15:26

, because

1:15:28

I see people like Shout

1:15:31

out to designer dreams . I see him at shows

1:15:33

and I I have literally

1:15:35

seen that dude sitting at the show

1:15:37

before his set in a corner with headphones

1:15:39

on and his SP making

1:15:42

the beats that he's gonna play that night . He's

1:15:47

like , yeah , man , I just made five beats , I'm about to play

1:15:49

him . Like wait , what you just made

1:15:51

beats and you about to play him in your set . That's

1:15:54

wild to me . Yeah

1:15:56

, man , he's a different , he's

1:15:59

a different kind of animal with that .

1:16:01

Mm-hmm . Yeah , man

1:16:03

shout designer dreams man . He's also

1:16:05

been a guest previously , man , so , man

1:16:08

, season three is yo man , crazy

1:16:11

, crazy . It's

1:16:14

amazing how all y'all Tapping

1:16:16

with each other because designer dreams is in the same

1:16:18

area , nothing new was

1:16:20

in the same area who

1:16:23

else Jay ?

1:16:24

Hershey , saw

1:16:26

him last night yeah .

1:16:28

I'm saying like all of y'all are

1:16:30

like Literally like that's

1:16:32

y'all's group , and then I , I

1:16:34

can't wait . For I can't remember what it's called

1:16:36

, but I just remember

1:16:38

nothing new . Like it's in front of a

1:16:40

, like a brownstone , and you know it's like

1:16:42

a street party , a block party or

1:16:44

something .

1:16:45

Yeah , that happens , and in bed style

1:16:47

, I believe .

1:16:48

Yeah , yeah

1:16:51

. So you know I'll just be why I'm

1:16:53

in Texas , man . So when I'm seeing

1:16:55

everything on Socials and

1:16:57

stuff like that , man , that's cool , tell me

1:16:59

, like Yo , block parties

1:17:01

and all y'all connected and stuff like that

1:17:03

, which is super dope . As

1:17:06

far as merch goes and

1:17:09

these are my last few questions , but as far as merch

1:17:11

goes , man like , and

1:17:13

you design all of this too , so

1:17:16

wow , you got

1:17:18

a crazy amount of hats that you have

1:17:20

. But when that , when

1:17:23

you did , when you're designing a merch , it's

1:17:27

intentional to go with the music , right ? So

1:17:30

Like

1:17:32

, how do you , how do you even think about , or

1:17:35

is it just you just trying different things and then figure

1:17:37

out what sticks ?

1:17:42

It's . It's a little bit of everything

1:17:44

. Sometimes I'll just have an idea and I run with it . To be

1:17:46

a hundred percent Honest , like the last

1:17:49

few I haven't

1:17:51

designed like I took the pictures and what have you . But I have a designer

1:17:53

who's

1:17:55

amazing , who I work with , shout

1:17:58

out to ill poetic , so

1:18:00

he's done it . But it's kind of a we

1:18:03

do a back and forth , like I kind of give him a concept and

1:18:06

then he comes at me with something and then we go back

1:18:08

and forth . I used to design everything like

1:18:10

honestly , like that's

1:18:13

one of those business Things

1:18:17

that I found super stressful because I didn't feel

1:18:19

like I Don't

1:18:22

want to say I didn't have the skill , but I didn't have the , the , the

1:18:27

skill level of to Make exactly what was

1:18:30

in my head hit hit design things . So like I wound

1:18:32

up starting to hire someone

1:18:35

because I feel like they could get what's out of my head better than I can

1:18:37

. But um , yeah

1:18:40

, man , I try and tie everything

1:18:42

together . In

1:18:45

a marketing Community

1:18:47

that I'm part of , they kind of stress , like

1:18:50

for branding , to kind of have a campaign . So

1:18:52

like when I release a record , it's not like okay , here's

1:18:54

just the album cover and that's

1:18:56

it . Like here's album cover , here's

1:18:59

stickers coast or whatever , and they all aren't the exact same design but they

1:19:01

clearly all belong together like you know . It's like you

1:19:03

know , say , any Product

1:19:09

you see a coke can

1:19:11

. You don't even need to see the word on it , you

1:19:13

just see the red and the white stripe go through

1:19:15

. You're like , yep , that's coke . So

1:19:21

like I try and have that kind of a recognition

1:19:23

with with everything on a full release . And then I

1:19:26

think I don't think enough people put importance on

1:19:28

logos

1:19:34

because I feel like that's a it's

1:19:37

a very instant way to

1:19:39

just be recognized as to , like you

1:19:42

know , once you get a logo , man put that shit on everything

1:19:45

. Like I'm a little guilty of not doing that because

1:19:47

I honestly I don't have

1:19:49

a logo for cryptic one that I like . Yet

1:19:51

I have the Adams family

1:19:53

logo which I designed , which has become

1:19:56

kind of like A

1:19:59

staple . Like every year or two I

1:20:01

do t-shirts and they always sell out . So

1:20:05

it's kind of a testament to like the

1:20:07

staying power of a logo . I made that logo 20 something years ago and

1:20:09

I think people when that know who Adams

1:20:12

family is , when they see it

1:20:14

it just kind of Instantly like , oh

1:20:16

, this is them , so I put that on every

1:20:18

single release . I have to tie them all

1:20:21

together . Yeah , I hope

1:20:23

that that answer your question somewhat

1:20:25

.

1:20:26

Yeah , that does that does like I'm , I'm , I'm just going through

1:20:28

and looking over , like all your , your merch

1:20:30

that you have on your website and On

1:20:35

Bandcamp as well . Like I'm looking at Truth

1:20:38

, the truth album , which is I think it was

1:20:40

the second sophomore

1:20:42

album for you , which

1:20:45

is another crazy album . It's

1:20:47

like you know just the

1:20:50

way that you designed that

1:20:52

is like what was the

1:20:54

whole truth ? Have truths and lies , yeah

1:20:57

, like .

1:21:02

Yo man like thank

1:21:04

you man , that one , I that one , I take full credit , credit Credit

1:21:08

man .

1:21:08

Yeah , man like , Sheesh

1:21:11

boy , like you get like Soon

1:21:13

as you look at the cover

1:21:15

, you like all right , this is what I'm in for me , like , I Like . I just

1:21:17

enjoy how you do that with your album covers , which is the album cover

1:21:20

speaks first . It's kind of

1:21:22

like books , right . So you look at the book

1:21:25

, you like , damn okay , is this something

1:21:27

I might want to pick up ? And you

1:21:29

pick it up , oh , oh , okay , this is well , okay

1:21:31

, now I'm gonna open it . You know me the same thing

1:21:34

for music , so I feel like you take that

1:21:36

same approach . Yeah , I think . I think what seems like

1:21:38

a lot of people are .

1:21:41

Yeah , I think I think what seeped into me is

1:21:43

because the first however many years of

1:21:45

me digging for records , it

1:21:49

was all about the album covers , like that's

1:21:51

how I look at the year and like , okay , 72 , I

1:21:54

kind of like that era , and

1:21:57

then whatever album cover was the coolest looking , that's how I bought

1:21:59

, you

1:22:01

know , my first I don't know few thousand records , so

1:22:05

I guess that's why it leaked into being kind of an important aspect for me . Yeah

1:22:09

, man influenced man

1:22:11

.

1:22:11

So , um , another thing I noticed is about your

1:22:13

, your videos , which

1:22:15

there's a quite a few people that directed . But

1:22:18

what

1:22:20

was it ? 1221

1:22:23

, 12 Intricate

1:22:28

schemes or what else ? Adams , or is it origami , orgami

1:22:32

, those , those are so cool . Man

1:22:36

those , those are so man

1:22:40

, they like , yeah

1:22:43

, man , it's like they speak , like whoever directed

1:22:45

them did an amazing job . But

1:22:47

yo , like these are the videos

1:22:50

that I'm like Wow , like after you watch them

1:22:52

, like you can't forget it To

1:22:56

get what was said . You know saying

1:22:58

either so it really is speaking to the

1:23:00

person I mean , especially if they're open to

1:23:02

it Like

1:23:05

, do you , do you go again , do you do like storyboards

1:23:08

and like , oh , this is how I want the videos to go , or you

1:23:12

just give creative control to somebody , or is it you ? You know

1:23:14

doing everything .

1:23:17

With those it was I gave creative control

1:23:19

. Like 1221

1:23:23

, 12 , that was Eric and

1:23:25

nello , so was origami . He is , he's

1:23:27

just a genius . Like he's Super

1:23:32

young while he's probably not super young anymore , but

1:23:34

when , when he did those videos he was maybe early 20s , he's

1:23:36

just really . He's

1:23:41

got an eye that like I don't understand

1:23:44

. I wish I understood how we did have the stuff he did . I

1:23:46

was there for shooting some of it and I was like what is

1:23:48

he doing ? Man ? This is I

1:23:51

don't understand this shot . And and

1:23:53

then I saw the final product . I was like

1:23:55

, oh okay , I will never not trust you again

1:23:57

. Like , yeah

1:24:00

, he's , he's something else . He

1:24:03

did one of the Davey Jones

1:24:05

locker for pirata . He did that video as well . Yeah

1:24:09

, he's , he's just

1:24:11

a person like literally others give him the song and then His

1:24:16

mind just goes to work . It

1:24:18

doesn't Like I've

1:24:22

done videos to like full music videos that I haven't released , and

1:24:24

the reason I haven't released them is because I don't feel like they're

1:24:26

. They look cool but they're

1:24:28

not creative enough . In a way , he

1:24:32

gets so creative , like my stuff

1:24:35

is . My videos are kind of on the nose

1:24:37

, like If

1:24:40

the lyrics say he was walking down a dark alley . That's exactly

1:24:42

what you're gonna see . You're gonna

1:24:44

see a dark alley and he's gonna be walking down , you

1:24:47

know . So it's just kind of like I

1:24:49

tend to follow the narrative exactly where he gets super creative with Everything

1:24:54

, like the shots and story everything .

1:24:56

Yeah , shout out to Eric , man man , shout out to

1:24:58

Eric man , he's

1:25:00

doing this thing like I really enjoy those videos

1:25:02

and

1:25:05

I'm a , I'm a link a couple of these in the description

1:25:08

as well , so people can See

1:25:10

what we're talking about , man , because you gotta see it

1:25:12

firsthand and then that's gonna make you go

1:25:14

into the album . Listen to that , you know me . So it's just

1:25:16

a rather whole you're gonna go down , so Be

1:25:21

prepared , into nets . But Okay

1:25:26

, last few questions . Like the man

1:25:30

, no genres , off limits . I haven't asked

1:25:32

this in a couple weeks actually , but If you had to , who

1:25:37

would be your , like your , your superheroes

1:25:41

For music creation ?

1:25:44

David Axelrod is probably

1:25:47

my favorite

1:25:50

producer all time . He's

1:25:54

kind of , like you

1:25:56

know , he's mostly

1:25:59

jazz producer and I would

1:26:01

say he's my north star , obviously

1:26:05

with more of a hip-hop twist , but I feel like

1:26:07

he was making a big hit Pop

1:26:14

before hip-hop was hip-hop because his

1:26:16

drums feel like , you know , the sample drum breaks that we used to always

1:26:18

use . So

1:26:21

he's number one for me . Who

1:26:25

else ? For rapping , doom

1:26:30

is Top three for me of all time . He

1:26:33

just

1:26:35

always did things that impressed

1:26:37

me and made me question things

1:26:40

and , yeah , shout out to doom

1:26:42

. Rest in peace . And

1:26:46

I was lucky enough to do a remix

1:26:48

for him , kind

1:26:51

of in his prime in like 2005 . So

1:26:55

that was Incredible blessing . I wish I were

1:26:58

to do that . So that was

1:27:00

incredible

1:27:02

blessing . I wish I would have got to work with him , work with

1:27:04

him , but Wasn't

1:27:07

in the cards but

1:27:09

I was blessed enough to get that remix out

1:27:12

on vinyl . Who

1:27:15

else ? Who else ? Who else I know like

1:27:17

the obvious choice is Dilla for

1:27:20

90%

1:27:22

of beat makers , I know , and the

1:27:24

reason why I never say Dilla in these

1:27:26

questions is because , like he

1:27:31

didn't have as big of an impact on

1:27:33

me as a producer because I was already making beats

1:27:36

for like eight or nine years when

1:27:39

came on the scene . I appreciate

1:27:41

Dilla , obviously Credibly

1:27:44

talented , but like he

1:27:46

was never someone that I like . Early we talked about

1:27:48

how I

1:27:50

mimicked and stole from Big Daddy Kane . Like

1:27:52

the producers , I mimicked and stole was like Marley

1:27:56

Maul and Pete Rock and

1:27:58

Premier and , to

1:28:00

a lesser extent , rza , but

1:28:03

Dilla kind of came after when

1:28:05

I was already kind of like Developing

1:28:08

my own style . But

1:28:10

Dilla said dude

1:28:13

, there's no denying it , another

1:28:17

superhero would be Prince Paul . Q-tip

1:28:21

was very influential

1:28:24

to me . Yeah

1:28:30

, I'm gonna leave it there because I'll probably just run down names for the next

1:28:32

hour . There's

1:28:34

so many , there's a

1:28:36

lot of incredible , incredibly

1:28:39

talented musicians Out

1:28:43

in the universe . Yeah , and we recently

1:28:46

just just lost 45 King

1:28:48

.

1:28:48

So Do

1:28:50

you have an impact on On

1:28:54

you as well

1:28:56

? Or yeah , for sure , that

1:28:59

was my era , and like the stuff he did

1:29:01

with Queen Latifah .

1:29:03

The 1900 number everyone knows that

1:29:05

beat . That's crazy . Wow man

1:29:10

, I was a kid listening to that song

1:29:13

.

1:29:13

So I was like I

1:29:17

didn't know who made it . I'm thinking you know

1:29:20

, like a Pete Rock or DJ

1:29:23

Premier made that , but who

1:29:26

is ? 45 King

1:29:28

, yeah . So he still played that song . He

1:29:32

was 45 King , yeah .

1:29:33

So he still played that joint

1:29:36

in clubs today and still gets a crowd

1:29:38

going . It's kind of crazy .

1:29:40

Man , man , his memory will

1:29:42

live on , man , so rest in peace . 45

1:29:44

King . So

1:29:47

you know , as

1:29:50

we , 2023

1:29:53

is about to come to a close , what

1:29:57

should the internet's look out for from

1:29:59

? From cryptic one

1:30:02

for the rest of either 2023

1:30:04

and then going into the new year

1:30:06

2024 .

1:30:09

Well , right now it's shows

1:30:12

. I got a show December 9th

1:30:14

in Brooklyn . I got a show it

1:30:17

don't out lounge on November , november

1:30:20

25th

1:30:22

Saturday to last Saturday the month and

1:30:26

I think there may be one more show in December

1:30:28

. But other than that , I'm

1:30:30

trying to finally get the physicals for

1:30:32

new beginning Out

1:30:34

before the end of this year , fingers crossed

1:30:36

. Other

1:30:39

than that , there's a lot of projects

1:30:41

I have , but it's kind

1:30:43

of hard to know what's next because none

1:30:45

of them are finished . I

1:30:47

do have a wrap

1:30:50

record that's like 80% done , which

1:30:53

is the third part of a trilogy

1:30:55

of records called the world according

1:30:57

to . So this

1:30:59

is the final installment

1:31:02

of that and it's . Do

1:31:05

we have time ? I could just explain what that is .

1:31:07

Yeah , yeah , yeah , go ahead .

1:31:08

Yeah , so like the first world according to was

1:31:11

Literally , I

1:31:13

just kind of did a similar limitation

1:31:16

, time limitation thing . It was like , all right , every

1:31:18

week I'm gonna make a beat , I'm

1:31:21

a recorder verse and I'm a shoot a video and

1:31:24

upload it to Instagram by the end of the week . So

1:31:27

I did that for I

1:31:29

know maybe nine or ten weeks straight

1:31:32

. Then I had all these verses recorded

1:31:34

and some of them I added another verse and like

1:31:36

that's what became the first album , and

1:31:40

then I kind of the second one . I kind of did

1:31:42

something similar and the third one . I started off doing something

1:31:45

similar and then I started getting in my head like man

1:31:49

, I want to make this better . So I've been kind

1:31:52

of sitting on it for a couple of years

1:31:54

now . But yeah

1:31:57

, I have all the artworks done for it . I have

1:32:00

ideas for the merch already . I just need to get off

1:32:03

my ass and finish the actual music side of it , which

1:32:05

is funny that that's the last thing

1:32:07

. Yeah

1:32:12

, maybe two more songs to write and then

1:32:14

it's done . So

1:32:17

I'm hoping to get that out in first quarter

1:32:19

or second quarter of next year . The

1:32:22

other big thing that's happening

1:32:24

next year it's the 20 year anniversary . Crazy

1:32:27

of anti-Movie strip theory and

1:32:30

I'm gonna do something special for you . I don't know

1:32:32

what yet , but it's most likely gonna be physical

1:32:34

. I don't know

1:32:36

what yet , but it's most likely

1:32:38

gonna be physical because , um , I

1:32:41

mean , I still have vinyl here of that

1:32:44

. But I want to do like a special

1:32:47

anniversary edition where I'm

1:32:50

probably gonna put like music that

1:32:52

didn't make the album on

1:32:54

it , because I still have songs from you

1:32:57

know , I released that in 2004 , but

1:32:59

I made it in like 99 or 2000

1:33:02

, most of the songs . So

1:33:04

it's a long ass

1:33:06

albums , literally 72

1:33:09

minutes a thing . Whatever the limit was you

1:33:11

could put on a CD . I was like I'm gonna use every

1:33:13

second , yeah

1:33:17

, so like I had other

1:33:19

songs I wanted to put on it that just couldn't

1:33:21

fit . So Maybe I'll

1:33:23

figure out a way to release those . But

1:33:26

, um , yeah , I think that that's most

1:33:28

of the , the plan that's set in motion

1:33:30

. Other than that , a lot of shows , I

1:33:32

, I

1:33:34

do my . I throw shows as well

1:33:36

, a show called digital dust . So

1:33:41

I want to throw more of those . But I

1:33:43

really want to get out of the , the

1:33:47

position of performing at every one of those

1:33:49

, because I don't

1:33:51

know if you ever thrown shows before , but it's . It's stressful

1:33:53

enough to throw a show but then have to perform

1:33:56

and wrangle all the performers

1:33:58

and Handle the marketing

1:34:00

and the flyers and you

1:34:03

know video and

1:34:05

sound like . It's

1:34:07

too much for one person man . I don't know

1:34:09

why . I do it self-foot . Yeah

1:34:13

, it is what it is . So that that's

1:34:15

another big thing for next year . I'm trying to build a team , so

1:34:18

if anyone in New York City beat

1:34:20

maker or not that wants to be involved with throwing

1:34:22

shows , hit me up . I'ma

1:34:24

be a hundred percent honest . Yeah

1:34:26

, probably ain't gonna be no money in it for a while , because

1:34:29

I ain't making no money doing that shit . I'm doing that shit

1:34:31

strictly to to get

1:34:34

people on stages and Get

1:34:36

. Try and build this community up

1:34:39

up even more than it is . The community

1:34:42

here is really dope , but I I sense

1:34:44

that , um , that

1:34:47

it could be bigger and

1:34:49

I want to like do whatever I can

1:34:51

to like help , help People

1:34:54

have a bigger and better scene

1:34:56

than I had .

1:34:59

Yes , bigger is . It's not

1:35:01

about the greed is , it's about the dream

1:35:03

, you know . So , yeah , I

1:35:05

get it . Building up , building

1:35:07

and connecting With

1:35:10

other creatives man , that's I Mean

1:35:14

. I know a lot of people put a lot of emphasis on

1:35:16

you know getting paid when you performing

1:35:19

and stuff like that , but just connecting

1:35:22

at these events and you

1:35:25

know Talking

1:35:28

to your fans and becoming

1:35:30

a fan of that , you know the

1:35:32

people that are performing like I Think

1:35:35

that's bigger than you know just getting paid , you

1:35:37

know to perform some songs and stuff like that

1:35:39

. So , but that's just me , you know , that's just

1:35:41

me , that's .

1:35:42

I agree a million

1:35:44

percent . But what I do want

1:35:46

to say is I was talking about the people like helping

1:35:48

put the shows together , not getting paid . I

1:35:51

make sure that I pay my performers , even

1:35:55

if it's not not much , you know , I like you're

1:35:58

gonna get at least like a meal or or

1:36:00

your Uber ride home

1:36:02

or something like I want

1:36:05

to Kind of that's

1:36:07

one of the things in the beat scene . Like I came

1:36:09

up in the underground rap scene right , so like I was

1:36:11

a rapper and I did a lot of shows for

1:36:14

free and

1:36:16

it took me a long time to start getting paid

1:36:18

shows and I

1:36:21

realized that the

1:36:23

people who were really capitalizing on

1:36:25

Making money doing it , it

1:36:28

was never the artist , it was always the venues

1:36:30

. Like they you know people

1:36:32

would come and buy drinks and you

1:36:35

know Whatever percentage

1:36:37

of ticket sales or whatever would all

1:36:39

go to the venues and and that started to bother

1:36:41

me . So I'm like at least

1:36:43

let's throw the artist a bone , like something

1:36:45

, and I just kind of want to . That's one

1:36:47

of my missions for next year . It's to kind of change that narrative

1:36:50

and like get other

1:36:52

promoters on the same page , to

1:36:54

like if you can break

1:36:56

your artists off a little something you know

1:36:58

like and and and help

1:37:00

it grow until that little something becomes a bigger

1:37:02

something and and it's

1:37:05

it's got to start somewhere . You know , and and

1:37:08

I am , I'm

1:37:11

all for doing free shows . I do free shows

1:37:14

. I did a free show last week , donut

1:37:16

lounge . I don't get paid for that , but

1:37:19

the shows that I throw I

1:37:21

want to show people that it's possible to to

1:37:24

get a little bit of money doing it and , and

1:37:26

I'm hoping it that people

1:37:28

follow suit . And you know

1:37:30

, the free shows are a necessity , but

1:37:34

there can also be paid ones too . So yeah

1:37:38

, hey , joe .

1:37:42

Yeah , man , Okay

1:37:45

. So how can , how can you know the internet's

1:37:47

tap into you ? You know where

1:37:49

could they find you ? You

1:37:51

know any websites , things

1:37:54

like that the website .

1:37:55

I I feel weird calling

1:37:58

a website because really just my store at the moment

1:38:00

Um , it's cryptic

1:38:02

one net . That's O N

1:38:04

A One is spelled out cryptics , like

1:38:07

the normal way you spell cryptic note , like K's

1:38:09

or anything . It's C R Y P

1:38:11

T I C O N E net . Then

1:38:15

the main place where I'm active

1:38:17

is Instagram . It's

1:38:19

Crip uno , which is

1:38:21

Crip underscore uno . That's

1:38:25

a main place and you know , if you search me on Spotify

1:38:27

, apple music or bandcamp , you'll

1:38:30

find me on all of those . I'm

1:38:33

phasing out the merch on bandcamp

1:38:35

, trying to just sell digital stuff there , because All

1:38:37

the merch is just gonna be from my website

1:38:39

. But yeah , those are the main places

1:38:42

. And in sidechain society , if

1:38:44

y'all like I can't stress this

1:38:46

enough and I don't get a cut

1:38:48

of anyone who joined sidechain society but

1:38:51

if you want to talk , to beat makers and learn Whether

1:38:55

it's mixing , whether it's business

1:38:57

, whether it's , you know Trading

1:39:00

sounds whatever it is and be a part of something that's like

1:39:02

some Really

1:39:05

dope shit , hit up sidechain

1:39:07

society like we've . We've gotten

1:39:10

to the point where we've done a couple of like producer retreats

1:39:12

, like earlier in the summer

1:39:14

In Atlanta

1:39:17

we got like an Airbnb and there was

1:39:19

like I don't know , 10 or 14 producers in a crib just

1:39:21

making music for you know , like a week

1:39:23

or two , and then controller

1:39:29

eyes happen . You got to play there and it's it

1:39:32

. I've been doing this

1:39:34

for a while . That's been one of the biggest life changes for me

1:39:36

is being a part of sidechain . So

1:39:39

shout out to sidechain and everyone who's a member , and

1:39:41

especially Stolen drums , for putting it together , giving us a space

1:39:43

to to

1:39:45

be nerds together .

1:39:46

Yeah , to

1:39:48

be nerds , yeah , it's all

1:39:50

right to be a nerd man

1:39:52

. We are , I saw . We always nerds anyway . We keep learning , you

1:39:56

know . I mean . So , yeah , shout out to stolen drums , man . I've

1:39:59

been seeing like they came to japan a

1:40:01

couple years ago and I was supposed to go

1:40:03

to the show but

1:40:06

I had to work that night , so I was . I missed them , man . It was right

1:40:08

before um

1:40:11

COVID happened too . So , but , um , yeah , man , one day

1:40:13

I'm gonna make it down

1:40:15

there . No , so we can , I can , you know , try and be

1:40:17

a part of that festivities , because

1:40:19

it just looks like an incredible

1:40:21

atmosphere . So , um

1:40:25

, to be a part of . So , yeah

1:40:28

, man , well

1:40:30

, um , cryptic one . I want

1:40:32

to say thank you for your time and thank you

1:40:34

for Um continuing

1:40:36

to just Re-evolve

1:40:38

. You know , to evolve into , you know doing so many different

1:40:42

things Um expressing yourself , but then also

1:40:44

just Giving

1:40:47

it out to the world . Um , whether

1:40:49

it be , you know , something that

1:40:51

you're not feeling too good about

1:40:53

, or Um some of the stuff that you are

1:40:56

feeling good about , um , you

1:40:58

express it , you put it through song , you put it

1:41:00

out there to the world and

1:41:02

I guarantee it's , you know it's helping people , whether they Send

1:41:06

you a message or not ? Um

1:41:09

, it is . It is helping people , man . So I

1:41:11

really appreciate you and you know

1:41:13

, if there's any final thing that you would

1:41:16

say to you know , the beat mutants , um

1:41:20

, of the multiverse man , what

1:41:23

would that be ?

1:41:24

um , the one big thing

1:41:26

is just be yourself , man like . However

1:41:29

, however , you have to do it . Just just be yourself and

1:41:31

things

1:41:34

will fall in line because At

1:41:37

the end of the day , you're the

1:41:39

only you , so you may as well be

1:41:41

you like it's . I know I said

1:41:43

earlier , copy and steal from other

1:41:46

people , that's

1:41:49

just the learning process to get to know how to express yourself . But like it

1:41:52

can't stress it enough Uh , like , that's

1:41:55

the number one thing is be you . Even

1:41:57

if it's weird and doesn't fit in

1:41:59

in A

1:42:04

space that that you want to be a part of , it's still going

1:42:06

to shine through .

1:42:11

If you're just 100 , authentically yourself

1:42:13

, you

1:42:38

you

1:43:11

, you

1:43:38

, yeah

1:44:09

, but

1:44:37

I'm rabble's , all the spools of the threat

1:44:40

before needle and teetering , propped

1:44:42

upon the ledge of deceiving One

1:44:45

of the tread ties ain't Todd Nick dead

1:44:47

, no traction , icy

1:44:49

floor crashing . Only see that

1:44:51

passion directly after he's cashed

1:44:54

in . Won't tell you how to live . So don't tell

1:44:56

me how to die , just tell me what I

1:44:58

want to hear and lie , lie

1:45:00

, lie . Just

1:45:04

tell me what I want to hear and lie

1:45:06

. Oh

1:45:31

yeah

1:45:45

, the truth set me free . Then the

1:45:47

truth screams . This ape man hunt

1:45:49

target me . I barely made it out the gates

1:45:51

. They wore camouflage . Get

1:45:54

up enough to damage gods through the skewed

1:45:56

few of security . Camera fog

1:45:58

cattle , prod , shocking catalog

1:46:01

of options . Rose early to opt

1:46:03

in god , parasols blocking sunbeams

1:46:06

, shade in the face from her grace

1:46:08

, sugar plum dreams . Erase all

1:46:10

trace of that taste that's been Festering

1:46:12

for years somewhere . There's a lesson

1:46:14

here keep dreaming lucid , use it

1:46:16

all to fuel some pep and cheer , and out I call

1:46:19

bullshit part of my french

1:46:21

fry pulpit creature . Leaving

1:46:23

that to the next guy . Won't tell you

1:46:25

how to live . So don't tell me how to die

1:46:27

, just tell me what I want to hear and lie

1:46:30

, lie , lie . Just

1:46:34

tell me what I want to hear and lie

1:46:36

, uh

1:46:49

.

1:46:55

Uh , yeah , this

1:46:58

is all all very necessary

1:47:00

, yeah , sometimes

1:47:05

you just need to let it out , right ? So

1:47:10

check it .

1:47:12

Yeah , this

1:47:15

is one of those apology songs where

1:47:17

I apologize to all the love ones

1:47:19

are done wrong . Harder me a sec

1:47:21

because that list is tight , long , not

1:47:23

on the way to start . These matters of the

1:47:25

heart To those that pump the same blood

1:47:27

, that love for

1:47:29

your mom and dad don't always shine through . I

1:47:32

hope you know it . If you did , now you do

1:47:34

. I appreciate everything you've

1:47:36

done and you do have such great

1:47:38

friends , or . What times . I don't deserve you . Emotions

1:47:41

on lockdown , dead bolts , curfews . Y'all

1:47:44

help me down , even when I push you all

1:47:46

away . Good looking , all that pushing

1:47:48

getting put away today . This

1:47:50

is the realest things I've ever wrote most people

1:47:53

. I don't let them close . Emotionally bellicose

1:47:55

, learning to let it go . Turn to work

1:47:57

in progress , trying to get better though

1:47:59

openness a foreign concept this

1:48:02

is my first stamp in that passport

1:48:04

, turning a new leaf . Sorry for being a

1:48:06

bad sport , late to the airport

1:48:08

, but better late than not at all . Sick

1:48:10

of waiting for that other shoot is gonna fall

1:48:13

Into that bird out

1:48:15

west . Exactly my stress and the rest

1:48:17

impossible to impress . Tough love

1:48:19

when it was bested to make it out west for

1:48:21

your ceremony should have tried harder

1:48:24

. Bird better knows me . Into

1:48:26

that wonder that is from the bottom

1:48:28

of my blood pump . I got love for you , miss . You

1:48:31

will always miss . From the second things dip

1:48:33

to a mess . Couldn't handle that worse

1:48:35

, I confess . Sorry , I

1:48:38

could hardly say that enough . Sorry

1:48:40

, saying it at all . Still kind of tough

1:48:43

. Sorry , thank you all . Ain't ever caught my

1:48:45

bluff . See these connections

1:48:47

never getting snuff into my brethren

1:48:49

. That arrested in that pirate code , that

1:48:51

further region season , what's needed ? I was kind

1:48:54

of cold so tough to open up when shut

1:48:56

down mode was all I know for the past few Cash

1:48:58

you . Thank you for the second home Into

1:49:01

them , fans and dig the tombs that suffer

1:49:03

my abuse of updates and coming soon

1:49:05

. All I can promise is I'll try

1:49:08

and do better . It took me six years

1:49:10

to see that tombs keep me glued together and

1:49:13

y'all make me want to improve with every

1:49:15

word I write to every sample court of groove

1:49:17

. I know I'm crazy all of this . I'm

1:49:19

very sure a little less crazy

1:49:22

today than the days before . I owe you all

1:49:24

. I owe you all

1:49:26

fans and friends . I love you all . In the end I

1:49:28

just ain't pretend and

1:49:30

if I never say it again , just press play

1:49:33

. Sorry . I don't know what else to

1:49:35

say , but sorry , I could

1:49:37

hardly say that enough . Sorry