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the world . Today

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, I'm going to show you guys , how

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I make a beat . Alright

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, this is my sample right here in the clip . Let's

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chop it up . All

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right , check , check , one , two

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piece of love . Everybody . Go to mine

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here for the Rex show podcast

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. Happy to be with y'all

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again , man , excited . It's

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December , man . We got less

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than you know what I mean . What's that

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? 10 days , less than

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10 days , or something

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like that , by the time this episode comes out

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. So for Christmas and then

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New Year . So 2023 is about to come to a close

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. Hope , everybody's excited , chilling

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with the loved ones and everything like that . But

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then also check it out , man . We

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still have the

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season four open

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registration happening right now for

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the Rex show podcast , man . So

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if you are a beat maker , music producer or composer

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and you know , I mean you just

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want to , you know , be on the podcast

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and you got something to actually say . You got a journey

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, you got to get your story out . Yo

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, hit the link in the link tree

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, put your information in there . Man

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, invites are going to go out before the

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end of the year . And then the second thing

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is we have our annual instrumental

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album , slash beat

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tape of 2023

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episode . That's going to air , I

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think , the 30th or the 31st , right before

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the new year , man . So if you got a beat tape

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or instrumental album that you came out

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with in 2023 or that you've heard

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in 2023 , please

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put that in the list . There's

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a link for that in the link tree as well , so go

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ahead and do that . But yo

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, enough about that , let's get

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to our guests . Man , we got a fellow

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ATXian man . Atxian

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, yeah , I says that's Austin , texas

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. I'm in it , tony . Yo , yummy

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, we in it , yo . So

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, man , I've been watching this gentleman for

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man , I want to say

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five years now . Man , I've been

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a fan of his music ever since he came home

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with the HGV HGV

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tape . So I've

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been a lot of represent the HGV bro and

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got your old you already

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that HGV tape was crazy

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. I was in Japan , like yo . He came out

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with the HGV tape so

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yeah , man , I was excited for that . So

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I was like yo , as soon as I started the podcast

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I was like y'all got to have my guy on . I

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actually got the men meet him on

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a couple of pressing

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matters and , rather

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unique , actually connected us man on some

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live sets , man . So

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, yo , man , we got

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a . First of all , he's a beat maker , a hip

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hop beat maker , a synthesis

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Like . He does some crazy

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stuff with synths . He's

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on a 404 . He's on a Kai MPC

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doing these things . A live drummer . He's

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a live performer . He's

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also done some shows put

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together by , like blue lab beats , she

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ghetto DJ I

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keep messing up his name , but my

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favorite , one of my favorite groups from daylight . So

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he's performing with these , perform with the alcoholics

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, performing with cloud cord . Astro

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mega boom Baptist is one of my favorite

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beat makers as well , man , he's

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, yo , he's been , he's been for me . I've

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been on a live car with this gentleman as well

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. So , yo , man , without

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further ado , let's give it up for the one and

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only flow by my

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flow .

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I'm a little bit .

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I'm gonna put that on there and

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hey , he brought out the list .

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He brought out the . He brought out the resume

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, bro .

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Listen , man , and that's not even half

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of the stuff that you've done , man , like

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you know what I mean you

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got . You are like a instructor man . You

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teaching people how to craft beats

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and how to perform live on the

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. You know the SP's and you know , man

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, just yo , what you do is amazing

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, man . So thank you again for being on

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this show . Man , how you doing today

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, man , I'm doing well .

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I'm doing well . It's the last few weeks of

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the year and I decided to take I

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normally I work pretty

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, pretty big hour , I wouldn't

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say long hours , but like early hours . I

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work in elementary

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schools here in Austin . But

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yeah , I decided to take these last few weeks of

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the year to work on beats

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strictly and it's

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been laid back , it's been productive and I've

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been having a good time .

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Nice man , yo . So another educator

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, look at this man , I'm we on a roll right

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now . Man , another educator

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, you , um , philip

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Drummond , filthy , filthy

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, drumming . We got DJ Basta

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, we got yo , man . I think

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that's . That's so crazy . I

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think that's the direction that this podcast

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is kind of going , like people that is

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actually educating . But

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then , oh man , we're going to talk about that in

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a little bit .

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But yeah , but man Okay .

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So I know you're looking forward to you know the Christmas

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break coming up .

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Yeah , educator , you know what I mean Yep , yeah

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, man .

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So listen , I got to ask you this

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because you know I met you

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a couple of times . We never like really

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got in depth and like your story and stuff like

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that . So this is my time to get guy

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with you and ask you these questions that I've been building

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up over the last , over

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the last year . So , all right , How'd

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you come up with the name ?

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Flowbama . Yeah , All

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right . So , um , I had a roommate

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back in college . Uh

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, I went to . I went to UT for film

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school way back in

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uh , 2010 is when

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I started at UT and I was already

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making beats . At that point , Um , I

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was going by my previous

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name , which was the young master Wakizashi

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. At the time , I actually know I

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had multiple , I had multiple names . Young master

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Wakizashi was a , was a producer

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, slash rapper alias that I

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used with my group , hermit kingdom

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, which we can like go into that in a second if you want

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to . But , um , at that time I was actually

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going as DJ Jules that

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was my original producer name and

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I was . I wasn't quite making hip hop beats yet

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. I wasn't trying to get more into like , uh

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, dance , like underground dancey

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, like bass music , bass , heavy dubstep

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inspired type of stuff . Um , anyway

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, I had this roommate . His name was Thad

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. He was this tall , like seven

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foot tall , white

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dude . Uh , classic , classic

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, uh , fraternity jock bro

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, but he was like a super at

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the same time . He was like super chill and stoner vibes

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, but he was one of the good

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fraternity dudes , if you know what I mean . So

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he was my roommate at the time and whenever I was making

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beats and I had a banger going on

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, he would walk by my roommate just going Barak

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flow Obama and

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he called me that and I just uh . I

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thought that nickname was so funny that

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eventually , when I found years after

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that point , when I found found

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time that it was time to give myself

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a producer name that reflected

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myself a little bit more , I just thought back on

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what the funniest twists of my name

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have been . Um , if you didn't know , my real

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name is Florian . So like

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, uh , I get a lot of nicknames off

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of like flow , flow , Beasy

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, flow , Bizzle , uh , flow Rida

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, whatever people call me different things based on

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flow , but flow Obama was always the one that

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made me laugh the most . So I ended up just

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picking that as my producer name

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. And , uh , ever

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since I did that , I started uh , introducing

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my work as flow Obama , and people just

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always have a really great reaction

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to the name . So I

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think it was a good choice . And uh , yeah , that's how it

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came about , Heck , yeah man , that's

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a good choice , like that .

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Yo , that name was what got me to actually

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check out your music . I was just scrolling

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through band camp and I'm like flow Obama

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, who the ?

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heck is that ? That's what I'm saying . It's

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all branding brother , branding

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man .

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So I was like yo let me check out this guy

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man that name is crazy man

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. So now we got the story , the internet's

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, now you get the story about

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how he came up with low bomber man .

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Shout out , shout out , my former roommate , sad bro . I

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have not seen him since then . It's been literally

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like over a decade . But if that

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ever hears this , that's that's who . Uh

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, that's who came up with the moniker , bro , that's

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who it's been Shout out to dad .

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Yo putting you on your business

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.

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Yes , sir .

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And then , and then you also , man , I'm

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okay , I'm , I'm just go where

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the conversation is going . Man , so you

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also , um , hosted

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a something called beats and wraps

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, where you know real little quick

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flips of uh MCs

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rapping while you're doing live

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finger drumming , um

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, with the likes of , like Cyclops , right

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? So if you , if you go to the internet , go to his

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YouTube and check out these

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clips , man , these guys were spitting

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man . But MDK , who

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I can't remember the the acting

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and what that stands for , but um , Minds of a different kind

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. Minds of a different kind

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. Man Like how did you , how did you come

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up with that concept ? To , like you know , let

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me fly finger drum and

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then have them spit

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their wraps over your finger drumming man .

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That's crazy . Yeah , I

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was making strictly finger drumming

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videos , um , before

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that point , even um

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, which this is like . Before , I was even on

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Instagram . This is a long long time ago at this

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point but I started putting up the

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weekly finger drumming videos that I it's the

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it's essentially the same concept that I

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kind of grew big off of on Instagram

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. I was doing this on Facebook

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for a while before that and

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, uh , yeah , around the same time that I was doing

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this , I was getting into the hip hop

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rap scene , or the Austin rap scene

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, mainly through going to

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um , going through Austin mic

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exchange , which was this uh

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, absolutely amazing open mic

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night at the time , back when I was still

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in college . Uh , rest in peace . Has been gone

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for many , many years now . But

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, yeah , there was this weekly Tuesday night . That was a Austin

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sort of open mic night for rappers

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and it was a huge community . Rappers

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came out , rappers came out , a lot of uh

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, a lot of musical collaborations

15:08

and long friendships happened from there . But

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, anyways , I'd be going to this event and be meeting rappers

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all the time and making new friends in the music

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scene and the hip hop scene all the time

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. So I was already making

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these live beats . So

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I was thinking , uh , why

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don't I bring some of these homies and have them freestyle

15:26

over my , over my finger drumming , and

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just , uh , take it a step up from there , you

15:31

know , showcase it ? Uh , potentially

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kind of figure out who I might want to

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collab with and

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uh , yeah , that's , that's how that came about .

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That's what it's about . Man Like listen

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, that is a prime example of what

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the beat community can

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do . Man Like just connecting

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networking . And then you

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find out hey , I've rapped , you know , I like your

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beats . Like , let's connect . And then

15:56

you just it's all experimentation

15:58

man Like that's right , man , that's

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incredible . Yo , you had some crazy

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. This is five , six years ago . Internet , by

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the way , man , if y'all go to his YouTube's . But

16:07

, man , you had , you had

16:09

like freestyles from like protector

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Um , I think that's how you say it's protector

16:14

.

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Yeah , protector yeah

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.

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Protector .

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That guy . That guy , protector , was one of

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the creators of Austin

16:22

Mike exchange at event that I just mentioned . Um

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, along with the former DJ

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of hip hop , hooray on

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91.7 , the former

16:32

DJ of that show , miss Manners . And

16:35

um , uh , third dude

16:37

named Aaron , who is still involved with

16:39

putting on electronic and beat shows here in

16:41

Austin . But uh , yeah , yeah

16:43

. So that was Protector , aka P

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tech , and I also had

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the minds of a different kind on there . We

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have black child , we had

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Chi clops . Uh

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, I don't remember if I did one with uh

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with breeze . I

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believe I did one with a Nick Cruz

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as well , and then a couple other homies I did

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them with man , man , I would

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yo , if I , if you bring that series

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back , man , that's going to be .

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It's so many different people that's rapping

17:12

right now . Like , if you ever connect with um

17:15

, I'll say rather unique , but rather

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unique . But then also you got , uh

17:19

, ah , who's my guy

17:21

? Man , matt . Um , oh

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, how am I forgetting his name right now

17:28

? That's crazy . Um

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, oh , man , it's

17:34

going to come to me anyway . But okay , so let's

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, let's , let's go back in history a little bit

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. Um , when you were

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growing up cause everybody's got their

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, you know their , their story somebody

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in the house was playing

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music . Or when y'all were driving , somebody

17:50

was playing music . Who

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were the people that were playing music and

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what type of music that

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you grew up on . That was like influencing you

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to this day .

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Man . So this is kind of a complicated question

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, cause I feel like a lot of people

18:06

, they kind of grow up and are highly

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influenced by their parents'

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music and what they play and whatnot , which in

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a way I kind of was , but

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almost in like the opposite . So

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let me explain Uh , my , both

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of my parents are , um , both

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of my parents are immigrants . First of all , my mom is from

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Germany , my dad is from the Philippines

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. Um , neither of them have a very , very

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much of a background with American

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culture . So , unlike

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, uh , I don't know , unlike people who maybe

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grew up with an American uh

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background , we didn't listen to a lot of like

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American music growing up . Um , my

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parents were very , very much

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into classical music

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growing up . Every morning , especially

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on Sundays , just like the

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soundtracks of breakfast was

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like classical piano

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or like um , or

18:57

like religious music , like Gregorian chanting

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or like choirs and stuff which

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I I never , ever

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got into . To this to

19:06

this day , I still cannot listen

19:08

to that type of music . Um

19:11

, so I guess I was influenced by

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that in the opposite direction

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, um , I also

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, uh , took

19:21

piano lessons growing up which

19:23

, on a similar side to

19:25

that coin , I was extremely resistant

19:28

to because piano lessons for

19:30

me was like , oh , I already worked for

19:32

seven hours in school , now I got to come home and

19:34

spend 30 minutes of my precious

19:37

free time practicing piano , these

19:39

dusty old tunes that I don't even like

19:41

. Like , I was so resistant to learning

19:44

piano , which , looking back on

19:46

it now , um , my keyboard

19:48

skills and my finger drumming skills , and all of that

19:50

is a direct result of the piano lessons

19:52

that I was forced to take , so that was something

19:54

positive that came out for me . Not

19:57

appreciating the music in my childhood , uh

20:00

, but really , when I started

20:02

to discover music for myself

20:05

was , uh , before

20:07

I was even into hip hop . I was a big

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time metalhead bro

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. Oh my God , I loved heavy

20:14

metal , like industrial stuff , like

20:16

the , really like I like the really

20:18

sinful stuff , bro , the , the

20:21

stuff that , uh , parents were afraid

20:23

of , like Marilyn Manson

20:25

, rob Zombie , that type of stuff

20:28

. Um , those

20:30

were also some of the first concerts that I ever

20:32

went to . Literally my first live

20:34

show that I ever attended was , uh

20:36

, I think like 2012

20:39

or something like that I was in high

20:41

school or not . 2012 , uh , 2000

20:44

, I don't know , maybe like 2005 or six or

20:46

something like that . I think I was a sophomore in high school

20:48

, my first ever live concert

20:51

I went to was Rob Zombie bro

20:53

in a big arena . That was the moment

20:55

that I fell in love with live music and

20:57

I knew from then that I wanted to be like a performer

21:00

. So that was really the moment that I was like

21:02

yo . Music is in my

21:04

blood and going out and seeing

21:06

it live just does something different to me that

21:08

Listening to it alone I already

21:11

love it , but going out and seeing it live and feeling

21:13

the bass and having it rattle my

21:15

rib cage At these

21:17

, these heavy metal shows , that's

21:20

what got me so into music in

21:22

the first place . So

21:24

I wanted to be like a . I wanted to . I was

21:26

in a punk and metal for a while . Towards

21:28

the end of high school Is

21:31

when I first really started

21:33

discovering hip-hop music

21:35

through some friends of mine

21:37

, because I remember at that time , mid-2000s

21:41

, lil Wayne was like

21:43

everywhere it was all

21:45

about Lil Wayne and Like

21:47

50 Cent . I think it was like right

21:49

, a little bit , a little bit around

21:52

a little bit after , like the crunk

21:54

era . So we had like

21:56

. Lil John and Lil Wayne like get

21:58

low was getting played at all the school dances . None

22:01

of this stuff I personally related to

22:03

Um , so I was

22:05

. I was pretty resistant to hip-hop growing

22:08

up , uh , until some

22:10

homies of mine , you know , as as

22:12

you do you meet some homies that just have like

22:15

that are music nerds and they just have

22:17

like a gigantic hard drive

22:19

full of just albums on

22:21

albums , on albums that they'll just give to you . That

22:23

happened to me a few times in my in my

22:25

early adolescence , which Formulated

22:28

a lot of my music taste as an adult

22:31

. One of those moments was my homie

22:33

Jacob had a hard drive

22:35

that had a bunch of like tribe

22:37

called quest and

22:39

blackalicious and

22:42

ashiru and blue black of

22:44

the unspoken herd just a bunch

22:47

of Um , I believe tallop , quali

22:49

and high tech was on there too . A bunch

22:51

of the like east coast , new

22:53

york , laid back jazz , inspired boom

22:55

bap . That was my first exposure

22:57

to that type of style . This homie in high school Just

23:00

gave me a hard drive full of that type of stuff and

23:02

I Especially tribe

23:05

called quest . I immediately Love

23:07

that type of stuff . I love the beats , I love the

23:09

laid back , the jazz . I was already

23:12

an avid listener of jazz at that point

23:14

. Uh , like I was saying , I've been taking

23:16

piano lessons . Towards the end of my piano

23:18

lesson taken career I finally

23:21

got a teacher who was actually teaching me

23:23

how to play jazz , like for real . So

23:25

I kind of enjoyed piano because

23:27

of jazz . I'm still a huge jazz

23:29

lover to this day but , um , yeah

23:32

, that was my true introduction to hip-hop

23:34

music , or at least my , my

23:36

first moment of like really falling in love

23:38

with it Was listening to , like , people's

23:40

instant , people's instinctive travels

23:42

in rhythm . The low end theory

23:45

, um , golden

23:47

arrow , blackalicious , uh

23:49

, jurassic five , power in numbers

23:52

, just those like classic boom

23:54

, bap , east coast joints

23:57

, and uh , yeah

23:59

, from that point on I was already like tinkering

24:01

around with making electronic music . I'd

24:04

just gotten ableton version six around

24:06

the same time as when I discovered j dilla

24:08

and it was just like you know , it

24:11

was a wrap from there , bro , I found out fly

24:14

low , I found about j dilla and

24:16

then it was cinched

24:18

, bro , I was a hip-hop head from then .

24:20

Wow , wow , so much

24:22

, so much influences . But

24:24

it all started Um

24:27

. Was it ? Was it your mom , or was it your , your

24:29

dad ? That was like forcing you to take

24:31

the piano lessons .

24:34

Definitely . Uh , my german mom

24:36

was , was more of the . You

24:38

know , in some families it's the , it's the

24:40

dad that's the tough one and the mom that's like

24:42

that you can come , come , come to

24:44

and like , ask for stuff secretly behind the other

24:47

way around . Uh , yeah , my

24:49

mom was the tough one in the family , so she was definitely

24:51

the driving force behind piano lessons

24:54

and , uh , making us go to

24:56

the symphony like a few times which , looking

24:59

back on it now , it sounds like it sounds

25:02

like super privileged to say like , oh , you

25:04

have to go to the dilla symphony . But , bro

25:06

, that was , it was . It was just so boring to

25:08

me , um , but um

25:10

, yeah , the

25:12

. The opposite end of that spectrum was that I

25:14

, sir , I was seeking out for music . That was so

25:17

, not Not

25:19

that that I guess .

25:22

Um , I came to metal .

25:22

I came to heavy metal and punk first , because that

25:24

was the , that was the hardcore , that was

25:26

the loud stuff , that was the stuff that uh scares

25:30

parents . And then , uh , I

25:32

discovered hip-hop as well and uh

25:34

just ran with it , you know .

25:36

Wow wow so , uh , I don't . So

25:38

I don't know your mom and dad's names , but Shout

25:41

out to your mom and dad , yeah

25:43

. Like put you on man

25:45

, forcing you , forcing that , but

25:47

like , also allowing you to like

25:49

, experiment and

25:51

search out what you like , and

25:54

then that is influencing

25:56

what you're creating today , which is some

25:59

of the most amazing , um

26:01

, you know not , it's not complex

26:04

, but it's like To

26:06

to my ears . I'm like yo

26:08

, how's he doing this ? Like it's

26:11

, that's that . That's the type of music I hear when

26:13

I'm uh listening to your music

26:15

, man . So shout out to them , man . Thank you , man

26:17

.

26:17

I will say , I will say shout out . Reuben

26:19

and Maria , those are their names . Um

26:22

, and they have . They have always , always

26:24

supported my music , never , never

26:26

been against anything I've done with , uh

26:28

, as far as music and in life . So they , they've

26:30

always been supportive .

26:32

Yeah , shout out to Reuben and Maria man

26:34

, big shout out to y'all . I'ma get

26:36

the cut of hand claps for that part too . Yo

26:38

, but um man

26:40

, okay . So we got you

26:43

growing up going through that um

26:46

, figuring out that you know classical

26:49

piano Um didn't really

26:51

want to take it , but it's influenced you to this day Hard

26:54

rock , heavy metal , but then also

26:56

discovering um some staples

26:59

, some staples and hip

27:01

hop man .

27:02

Absolutely . I forgot to mention Wu Tang . I

27:04

found out about Wu Tang around this exact same time

27:07

.

27:07

Wu Tang's for the children , yeah exactly

27:10

.

27:10

Wu Tang to me , was like the heavy metal

27:12

of hip hop there . It was so

27:14

, so hardcore . I'd never

27:17

heard anything that like intense

27:19

.

27:19

Yo , I think that's the reason why why

27:21

the world loves

27:24

Wu Tang man , just because it

27:26

was so abrasive . But then

27:28

it was still like the

27:30

beats were dope , but then the rhymes

27:33

complete like oh man , like

27:35

yeah , man , aggressive , and the

27:37

best in the best way . Yeah

27:39

, man , yo , okay , so , man

27:42

. So we got that going

27:44

on . When did you

27:46

know that you like ? What was that moment

27:49

for you that you were like yo

27:51

, I mean , I

27:53

want to create some music , I want to create beats

27:55

. Was it at that concert that

27:58

you went to , or was it like later

28:00

where you were like you know what ? I want to make beats

28:02

. No matter how it sounds , I'm

28:04

gonna just make beats . This is what I want to do with my life

28:07

.

28:08

Uh , man , I I don't know if I can pinpoint

28:11

a specific moment , maybe

28:14

the first time that that rob

28:16

zombie concert was the first time I did

28:18

not . I didn't necessarily know , like yo

28:20

, I want to make music , but I knew

28:23

at that moment that yo , I love

28:25

live music

28:27

and , um , yeah

28:30

, I guess it was just over , uh , over a

28:32

slow period of time in my high

28:34

school years . I was listening to a

28:36

lot of electronic music at the time too , um

28:38

, especially like the prodigy

28:41

and the crystal method , which

28:43

both of those guys are very heavily hip-hop

28:46

, hip-hop influenced , especially if

28:48

you listen to their drums . They're very like breakbeat heavy

28:50

. Those were the type of groups

28:52

that made me want to get

28:54

Ableton live , first of

28:56

all because I was already like a , I

28:59

was in , I was kind of a computer nerd at the

29:01

time , more on the more on the

29:03

video game , like computer game side of things

29:05

. But I was listening to this music

29:07

that was also made just on

29:09

computers and electronically and

29:11

that , yeah , that that you

29:13

know gives you the freedom to be like , oh , I don't need

29:15

a band to be able to do this , I don't need to like

29:17

be able to get it , get together

29:20

with three other people once a week and everybody

29:22

have their own instruments and have our own practice

29:24

base and da , da , da , da da , this music

29:26

that I love , I just need to get like a

29:28

software program and I can start making it . So

29:31

, yeah , listening to like

29:33

Apex

29:36

twin crystal method prodigy

29:38

, uh , in my teenage

29:41

years , that I would say

29:43

was my um original

29:45

impetus to get

29:47

into wanting to get my first

29:49

synthesizer , wanting to get

29:51

my first version of ableton

29:54

, which is ableton 6 , and

29:56

um , yeah

29:58

, so , like I , like I mentioned , when I

30:00

discovered hip-hop music for myself , I

30:02

was already , I was already making

30:04

music . So at that point , every time I sort

30:07

of discovered a new type

30:09

of music that , um , that

30:12

inspired me . It's from the lens

30:14

of , like yo , I can like make this for myself

30:16

. So , um , yeah

30:19

, I guess , long story short , you could say it was

30:21

a process , uh , little steps

30:23

at a time , little influences at a time . There

30:25

wasn't like a specific point .

30:27

Yeah , that's and that's , that's normal man

30:29

, because you know we all just searching

30:32

to figure , trying to figure it out , and once

30:34

you figure it out you just like yo . I'm gonna

30:36

just start , because

30:38

if some people get stuck in research

30:41

mode but you didn't , so

30:43

you just was like , you know I could make this If

30:46

you get some software ableton 6

30:48

, I think , oh , don't get me wrong .

30:50

It was a lot of research mode along the way

30:52

, don't get me .

30:53

Yeah , so , but some

30:55

people can be paralyzed . Like what do

30:57

you attribute you not being paralyzed

31:00

? Uh , by the research ?

31:02

mode . Uh , this

31:04

for me , was definitely something that just came

31:06

with time , because when , when I was

31:08

a kid , I , even after I did

31:10

, like you know , getting the software

31:13

is like barely even step one . Learning

31:15

it is barely even step one . You

31:18

still have to get in there and actually be

31:20

creative . So , um

31:22

, that was honestly just

31:25

having the , having

31:27

the persistence and consistency

31:29

to create um on

31:31

Even even a daily basis

31:34

. Sometimes it can be difficult for me to this day

31:36

to be consistent Like I have . I

31:38

have ebbs and flows with it and whatnot . But

31:42

, um , yeah , it's , it's just something

31:44

that came , it's just something that came

31:46

over time and it , uh , it

31:49

came kind of it at some points . It came

31:51

kind of slowly . There were some times

31:53

where I wasn't inspired for a while . Or I did

31:55

have that either . Um

31:58

, overwhelming options

32:00

, paralysis , as some people do when they're

32:02

starting with ableton . Uh , because

32:04

there's just so many different ways to approach it . Um

32:07

, I had the uh , the uh . I

32:09

had that early beginner paralysis

32:12

of like , yo , I can't make anything

32:14

close to what I want to . So what's the point

32:16

? Um , it was just a matter

32:18

of like , going through the trenches

32:20

and Making , making

32:23

the trash beats for years and years

32:25

and years , um , what

32:27

I will say ? I think one of the first things

32:29

that got me really serious

32:32

about , um , putting myself out

32:34

there as a musician Was

32:36

when I started meeting a lot

32:38

of other like-minded people . So this is when I moved

32:40

in 2010 , when I moved to

32:43

Austin to go to UT and

32:45

, like I mentioned , it's when I started going to

32:47

this awesome mic exchange event and meeting

32:50

artists all the time . It's

32:52

when I met , uh , two of my

32:54

best friends to this day , some of my best collaborators

32:56

that I've had in my life , my homies

32:58

, uh , jay and Devin from hermit kingdom

33:01

. In my early days With

33:03

those boys , when we were working as a trio , it

33:05

was just endless creativity

33:08

, because at that point you're

33:10

not just making music for yourself , you're

33:12

like making music for your friends

33:14

, with your friends . It's more about hanging out

33:16

than like doing the work you know

33:18

. It's about having fun and like getting

33:20

a little messed up and going to parties and just

33:22

like being being a kid and having something

33:25

to bring to the table and like show the homies

33:27

like yo check this out , we just made this crazy

33:29

shit Y'all about to listen to it . Um

33:31

, so , yeah , I would say

33:34

the fur to Another

33:37

long story short to what I just said . The

33:39

first part of me sort of getting over

33:41

the hump , of Just

33:44

making stuff being consistent , was

33:46

just a matter of time

33:48

, a matter of going through it

33:50

, going through the bad beats , going

33:53

through the self doubt and , uh , just , I

33:55

wouldn't say making it out the other side

33:57

, because that's something that that's something

33:59

that we deal with all the time . I don't think

34:01

that ever goes away , but , um

34:04

, just learning , learning to , learning

34:06

to manage that . And then the second part

34:08

of that was finding the

34:10

community that gave

34:12

me the uh , gave

34:14

me , gave me the validation

34:17

to whenever I Played a beat

34:19

or made a beat that a homie immediately

34:21

wanted to rap to . That just gives

34:23

you like the validation and the uh

34:26

, the dopamine release , almost to want to

34:28

do it again .

34:29

Yeah , that's , that's major man finding

34:31

your community man , um Yo

34:34

, ever since I moved we

34:36

I moved from Japan

34:39

to Texas and then linked

34:41

up with um flip

34:44

a beat club austin and then

34:46

, like yo , it's so

34:48

many creatives and then doing shows in

34:50

austin . Oh , my gosh

34:53

man , like y'all , boys Yo

34:55

, boys and girls Yo cuz yes

34:57

, everything in between everything

35:00

in between , man , there's so many amazing

35:03

creatives out here . Man like

35:05

Yo , austin

35:07

. Man like I gotta shout out austin

35:09

, austin , san Antonio , houston

35:12

dallas , texas . Man

35:14

yo , oh man

35:16

, we've got something to say . Man .

35:18

Hey , shout out , shout out all the texas producers

35:20

bro real man .

35:22

So I am man Okay , that's

35:24

a good story man , because I like when

35:27

people can actually like articulate . Um

35:30

, you know , not

35:32

just like making music

35:34

, but that part of the

35:36

, the beginnings , you know , I mean that

35:38

, the genesis of you creating , wanting

35:41

to create the music , but then getting over

35:43

some hurdles in order to get

35:45

where you are , because nobody , just , you

35:47

know , gets where they are right now , to where you

35:49

making slappers . You know , I mean you gotta go

35:51

yeah , yeah , exactly . Yeah

35:54

, man . So , um , when

35:56

, when did your

35:58

casio with , like the first casio

36:00

that you bought , like when did that come

36:02

into play ? You know ?

36:05

Man . So I started

36:07

, I bought my first ever

36:09

. I don't remember if

36:11

it was the SK1 or the VL1

36:14

, but I bought

36:16

my first one way back

36:18

before I was barely even making beats

36:20

in high school , bro

36:22

, I think I was like 15 or 16

36:25

years old . One of the only

36:27

musical things that

36:29

I've probably the longest musical

36:31

object that I've owned just throughout

36:33

my entire life is either

36:36

the Casio VL1 or the Casio SK1

36:38

. I can't remember which one came first but

36:40

yeah , like

36:43

I had mentioned , I was into electronic

36:45

music in high school and I wanted to get into my first synthesizers

36:47

and I was also a little bit of a computer

36:50

nerd and , for whatever reason , these Casio

36:52

keyboards just like appealed to me

36:54

. There was this music video called

36:56

Da Da Da , this German

36:59

band I can't remember like the

37:01

artist off the top of my head , but it was this famous

37:03

music video that was kind of like viral before

37:05

viral , and that was when the guy was

37:07

playing the beat off of the Casio

37:10

VL1 . And he had this tiny

37:12

synthesizer in his in

37:14

the music video that he just pulled out of his pocket

37:16

and something just appealed to me so

37:19

much that I just got on eBay

37:21

and tried to find . When I ended up buying one

37:23

for something like 60 bucks or

37:25

something like that and I

37:28

don't know . I was just in love with just like

37:30

how it looked and how dinky and

37:32

how cheesy it was and how like

37:34

unique it was , as just an object to

37:36

have . So at that point

37:38

I was like , all right , I'm collecting these mugs now

37:40

. So at that point , whichever

37:42

one was first , I ended up buying the second one

37:44

and then they just kind of sat there

37:47

for many , many , many

37:49

, many years . I played with them a little

37:51

bit , as in

37:53

my early days of making beats , but they were more

37:55

of like a , you know , like a curio

37:58

, just more like a fun little thing up to have

38:00

on the side . And

38:03

then years later , years

38:05

after I got them I don't even I can't

38:07

even begin to count how many years it was was

38:10

when I , just off the cuff , decided

38:12

to make some videos with them on

38:14

Instagram . One of them

38:16

blew up and that kind of

38:18

started a whole nother journey .

38:21

Yeah , Yo , man , like

38:24

what you're doing with IG , man

38:26

, which are your clips and reels and

38:28

you going

38:30

through like the process , man Like

38:33

yo , that's one of the things that I

38:35

look at when I'm like looking for inspiration

38:37

. It's you , it's J-FILT

38:40

, it's low key

38:43

, it's oh

38:45

, who else is it ? It's a- .

38:47

Oh , low key is fire bro .

38:49

Yeah , man , it's so many different creatives

38:52

, man , that

38:54

are like analog . It's

38:57

analog creatives too , man

38:59

, and it's two more . It's

39:01

a female . All she does is create

39:04

with analog , oh

39:07

man , oh

39:09

no , I'll figure it out , but anyway , all right , for sure

39:11

, for sure . Yeah , but

39:13

yeah , man . So the Casio , yo shut

39:15

up the Casio man , cause a lot

39:17

of people had got their start with

39:20

Casio products , man .

39:22

I don't know if they did that .

39:23

No doubt about that To make it to where it was . Just

39:25

you know , build quality , make

39:28

it look appealing to kids . But

39:30

then , even as adults , we're still

39:32

going back to those Casios and

39:35

they still are creating some dope music

39:37

, like what you do with your , with

39:40

your ID , ig where did that

39:42

come from ? To where you were

39:44

, like yo , let me just use my IG , create

39:46

some beats , use the you know

39:48

what I mean Use my keyboards , use the instruments around

39:50

me and then boom

39:53

, an explosion happened for Obama

39:55

. Yeah .

39:56

Yeah , well , as

39:59

it is , the thing with social media

40:01

for me is it's always a matter of trial

40:03

and error to see what works , see

40:05

what doesn't . And

40:08

at the early point in my social media career

40:10

, this was when I kind of made

40:12

the decision of like , all right , I'm going to go hard

40:14

on Instagram because

40:16

this is how I'm going to build

40:19

an audience , and I just kind of like stuck with that

40:21

idea early . I

40:23

had already been making those

40:25

finger drumming videos and the rapper

40:27

videos that we touched on earlier , and

40:30

I already decided to bring

40:32

those weekly finger drumming joints to Instagram

40:34

and I wanted to add another

40:37

thing to it , so

40:39

I decided to do synth Sundays

40:42

. Now , the reasoning behind the synth Sundays

40:44

is I was doing

40:46

a little bit of research on marketing at the

40:48

time , which is a

40:51

skill that I think all producers

40:54

in the current world that

40:57

are trying to make some sort of career needs

40:59

to at least have some knowledge of as marketing

41:01

. But anyway , I was doing this

41:03

like online little basic

41:05

marketing course and they were talking about

41:07

how , if you're

41:10

able to relate

41:12

your product or your thing or whatever to

41:14

something that your audience

41:17

already has a mental

41:19

connection to , then that's going

41:21

to stick in their mind so much stronger

41:24

. So the example in this marketing course

41:27

was I don't know if

41:29

it was Taco Bell , but whichever Taco Company

41:31

came up with Taco Tuesdays

41:33

, they were talking about how that's

41:35

one of the greatest marketing concepts because it links

41:37

the product Tacos with a day

41:39

of the week , tuesday , which

41:42

is something just the word Tuesday

41:44

. You think about that at least once a week

41:46

, because it's Tuesday once a week . You know what I mean . So

41:49

I had that . I had the genius idea

41:51

of like all right , so my

41:54

finger drumming videos are going to be on Wednesdays

41:56

, that's hump days . I'm going to change that to bump

41:58

days , hashtag bump day . And

42:00

then I already have this collection of little

42:03

keyboards that people don't

42:05

see a lot . Let me showcase those and call

42:07

that synth Sundays hashtag

42:09

marketing genius . So I

42:12

just came up with that formula and I started

42:14

just like doing it just for fun

42:16

, just to see what would happen . And

42:20

yeah , it was one of my synth Sundays videos that

42:22

really blew up first and

42:25

got like something like a few thousand

42:28

likes back when my

42:30

follower count was like I don't

42:32

know , under 2000 or something , which absolutely

42:34

blew my mind . And

42:36

yeah , after that I was like all right , this

42:39

works . Big check

42:41

. Let's just go ahead and do this every

42:43

Sunday for the foreseeable future from now

42:45

on . And yeah , I did

42:47

that . I stuck with it for a few years

42:50

and I built , I built a audience off it .

42:52

Man yo , that

42:55

is incredible , yeah , like I've

42:57

seen . I've seen you like man

43:01

. Okay , let me take . Let me take a step back , because

43:03

you said something very , very

43:06

critical . You said , uh

43:09

, marketing

43:11

, right , and then you said your social social

43:14

media career right , I didn't think

43:17

about social media

43:19

being a career , but maybe

43:22

that's how we need to think about it . Is

43:24

not just posting regular

43:26

stuff like especially if you trying to be , you

43:29

know , an artist or a musician or anything

43:31

like that , and you're trying to get

43:33

your uh , your

43:36

intellectual property out to the masses

43:38

. Yes , that's how we need to think about

43:40

it . Wow , I never thought about that

43:42

, yeah .

43:44

Well , when it comes to social media , I would say

43:46

I don't consider social media to

43:48

be my career . It's

43:50

part of my music career , but

43:53

it's something it's more of like , uh

43:55

, a commitment . You know

43:57

what I mean . It's like uh , cause , when

44:00

it these days , when it comes to uh

44:02

making a career out of music

44:04

, um , on one

44:06

end , the barrier to entry is

44:09

super low because it's

44:11

free to download Instagram , it's free to download

44:13

the Tik Tok , but , um , the

44:16

barrier to getting noticed now

44:18

is really really high . So

44:21

, um , another another saying that

44:23

I go by is um

44:25

to to be

44:27

in the 1% of uh , to

44:30

be in the 1% of success , you have to be willing

44:32

to do what 99% of people are not

44:34

willing to do . And one thing that I

44:36

that I've learned is one of those things is

44:38

to be consistent

44:40

at putting something out . And

44:42

when it comes to social media , it's like that's

44:45

something that , um , I pride

44:47

myself that I've been able to more or less do

44:49

for the past several years is

44:51

to consistently have my presence

44:53

out there , because it is , it

44:55

is difficult and it's something that I had to make a conscious

44:57

commitment , a time and energy

45:00

commitment to do , but uh , pretty

45:02

much all of my big opportunities for music have

45:04

come from that . So , um it was

45:07

. It was definitely worthwhile , even though

45:09

it's it's uh , it's difficult at times

45:11

and it still is difficult . But

45:13

, like I said , it's commitment , you know .

45:15

Commitment consistency . Man

45:18

, Yo you dropping crazy jewels

45:20

right now my guy . Oh , thank you

45:22

Thank you Listen

45:25

, oh my gosh . Okay

45:28

, consistency commitment

45:31

, yo get , oh

45:33

man . Okay , I'm gonna ask you this

45:35

yeah , what did you read ? What

45:38

did you like , besides the marketing course that you took , um

45:41

, what , what books , what

45:43

audio books , what videos , what , like

45:45

, what has helped you , uh

45:48

, the most get , get , uh , get the most

45:51

out of where you are right now , like , what

45:53

has what ? Which one of those videos

45:55

, books , um , uh

45:58

, documentaries , anything like

46:00

that what has helped you get to this point ?

46:03

Yeah , yeah . So when it came to like

46:05

kickstarting me , getting

46:08

into this mindset of like , all right , I'm committing

46:10

myself to creating on social

46:12

media , it was the

46:14

book crushing it by Gary

46:16

V bro , reading that

46:18

book like flipped a switch in

46:20

my mind way back in like 2016

46:23

, 2017 or something . That was when

46:25

I started writing down goals . That

46:27

was when I started like coming up with

46:29

these concepts of like , all right , I need

46:31

to , uh , what do I need to study

46:33

to improve myself ? Let me uh get on this

46:35

. Let me get on this marketing , uh

46:38

course online . Um

46:40

, what are some concrete

46:43

goals ? What are some things that I can ? How

46:45

can I brand myself ? How

46:47

can I extend how I , how can

46:49

I extend my authentic personality

46:52

into my branding without it being forced

46:55

? How can I dada , dada , dada , um

46:57

. Crushing it by Gary V was kind of like

46:59

the start of that and then , um

47:01

, from then on , a lot of it was a matter

47:03

of just like observing what other

47:05

successful people in

47:08

um in production were

47:10

doing online . At the time

47:12

, um big shout out to

47:14

stolen drums . By the way , I definitely copied

47:16

a lot from his , from his formula

47:19

of his early success on success , uh

47:22

, on social media . Um , so

47:24

, yeah , gary V is a big one . I'm still a huge

47:26

fan of Gary V . Um , I just really

47:28

enjoyed his , his content and just like makes

47:30

me feel good and it makes me feel motivated

47:32

, so shout out to him and

47:35

then , um , yeah , other than that , it's just like observing

47:37

other people who have

47:39

, um , who I would say are in

47:41

a point in their career that I hope to

47:43

achieve myself at some point . So

47:45

people like stolen drums , people like

47:48

, uh , little bad snacks , who was also

47:50

like a really great , uh , producer and

47:52

educator on on YouTube

47:55

and social media and and so

47:57

on , um , yeah

47:59

, so Gary V , and then other

48:01

producers , yeah , yeah , yeah , gary V man .

48:06

I just remember like the same thing , like

48:08

crushing it . I haven't read that book , but I

48:10

used to watch all of his videos when

48:12

he'd come out because it was just . It

48:15

was so simple how he

48:17

put it . It was just like yo just stay

48:20

consistent , be hard . Don't give a fuck

48:22

about what nobody else is talking

48:24

about .

48:24

Yeah .

48:25

Stay committed to your vision , man

48:28

, and then build a winning team . Like

48:30

that's the things I took away from Gary V

48:32

and I still use to this day is the

48:35

team stay consistent , fuck

48:37

everything else . You gonna have to sacrifice

48:39

, like he always talked about . You know he didn't have no

48:41

weekends , no weekends

48:44

, you know what I mean . Like the only weekends was to watch

48:46

the Jets . Yeah , you

48:49

know saying like I just remember everything

48:51

he was talking about . Man , shout out to

48:54

Stolen Drums . Man , sidechain

48:58

Society . Man , they doing some amazing things

49:00

over at Sidechain Society

49:02

. And then , and Gary V

49:04

man , yo and Speaker to that

49:06

, when you , in 2015 , I think you

49:08

came out with this album in

49:11

2015 , which

49:13

is Flobama volume

49:15

one .

49:16

Man which is an amazing

49:18

joint Volume one .

49:20

Yeah , man , like I had to take it back

49:22

. Yo , that's it . That's an amazing

49:24

album as well , man . So , if

49:26

internet's , go to Flobama's

49:29

band camp , man , I'm going to link everything in the description

49:32

of the show . So go

49:34

too far , man , but listen

49:36

. If you haven't listened to anything

49:39

that for Obama has put out , do

49:41

yourself a favor , go to his

49:43

band camp , go to Apple Music , go to Spotify

49:45

, follow him , man . Like

49:48

. Go to his IG . Yo

49:50

, man , he's doing some amazing things . But let's

49:52

talk about volume one . Flobama volume

49:54

one . Man , like

49:57

, what was the what

49:59

was ? Where did that come from ? Like , what made you

50:01

put out Flobama volume

50:03

one ?

50:04

So that was really a beat tape . Honestly

50:06

, I wasn't thinking of it as like an album or a project

50:08

, but that was that was the first time where I

50:10

was like all right , I got , I got a grip of beats

50:12

, let me put them out and let me see if I can

50:14

shop them out to some rappers

50:17

around town , which it's

50:19

been so long bro , I don't even . I'm

50:21

not even sure if any of those tracks

50:23

off of volume one ended

50:25

up having people rap on them . I'd have

50:27

to like go back and listen , listen to the

50:29

beats and like try

50:31

to remind myself . But yeah , it was essentially

50:34

just I had just

50:37

recently come up with the name Flobama

50:39

. I was kind of finally

50:41

establishing my identity as like a solo

50:44

hip hop producer , because I was already

50:46

working with her , my kingdom at the time , working

50:48

as young master Wakizashi , which

50:50

was like a slightly different vibe from Flobama

50:53

, giving a little bit less of a fuck

50:55

, a little bit more of the like , the

50:57

, the on the Wu Tang clan side

50:59

of things , but like a slightly unhinged

51:01

underground , like weirdo version of it

51:03

. But Flobama was

51:06

like my , like , all right , this is me staking my

51:08

claim . This is , this is me like sort

51:10

of establishing what I am starting

51:12

to sound like as a producer , and volume one

51:14

was just like essentially like my first beat tape

51:17

. You know it was the first batch of beats . I wasn't necessarily

51:19

trying to

51:21

I don't know if I was trying

51:23

to make like an album per say

51:25

I was just trying to have like a collection of like

51:28

all right , these are some joints that I'm proud of that

51:30

like maybe people want to wrap on .

51:33

Nice , and then you transition and go

51:35

to strong

51:37

style slaps . Yeah

51:39

, so that album

51:42

. Man , I was like yo . So that that

51:44

album , those two first two albums and

51:46

then HB beats the

51:48

beat tapes , those were the ones I was

51:50

like yo . I got to get his discography , man , so

51:53

I got your whole discography .

51:54

Well , hey , thank you brother .

51:56

As of like , when you came out with HB beats

51:59

everything you had I was like yo , let me get

52:01

everything this guy got , because I got to have it in my

52:04

music collection , because you know , when I

52:06

get older my grandkids gonna

52:08

be like yo , what was you listening to back

52:10

then ? I'm like yo , let me go to my band camp

52:12

. Yeah , I mean , this is what I was listening

52:14

to . Yo , I

52:16

mean , but yo strong

52:18

style slaps man . Where did that

52:20

name come from ? And then , what was that album

52:23

?

52:23

about . So

52:25

the album strong style slaps . That was

52:27

definitely more of like an effort to have

52:29

like some sort of like a consistency

52:32

in the sound and like the concept of it . So

52:35

I at this point in time in

52:38

my life I was a huge fan

52:40

of wrestling and

52:43

I particularly enjoyed watching

52:45

Japanese wrestling at the time

52:47

. And strong style

52:49

is a term in Japanese wrestling

52:51

that refers to wrestlers

52:55

that actually smack

52:57

each other like real hard , like

53:00

an American wrestling WWE , that

53:03

AEW type of thing . There's

53:06

a certain sect of , there's

53:08

a certain there's a certain approach on some

53:10

, some people that I guess I don't know how

53:13

it is anymore . But in

53:15

general , professionalism

53:17

and wrestling is to be able to do a match and like not

53:20

hurt the other person at all but make it look real . And

53:22

Japanese strong style wrestling

53:24

is like a old school hardcore thing of like

53:26

yeah , we're actually smacking the shit

53:29

out of each other . So that's

53:31

where the title came from . Also , the

53:33

album cover is kind of like me doing

53:35

a tracing of one of

53:37

the most famous Japanese

53:40

strong style wrestlers , kent Akobashi

53:42

, smacking the shit out

53:44

of another wrestler in the in the corner of the ring

53:47

. So that album

53:49

in particular was highly

53:51

influenced by just the sounds of Japan

53:53

in general . I actually

53:55

grew up , growing up , I

53:58

spent a couple years in Japan

54:00

with my family when I was a really

54:03

young kid , from , like I want to say , kindergarten

54:05

to first grade . I was in Japan

54:07

because my dad worked there for a couple

54:09

of years . Um , so

54:12

I had some childhood memory with Japan

54:14

. Like I have that in my like nostalgia

54:16

banks of my brain . So the strong

54:18

style slaps album was like partly a callback

54:20

to that and also , just in general

54:23

, it was like , uh , a tribute

54:25

to Japanese jazz , japanese musicians and

54:27

then , of course , uh , japanese wrestling .

54:30

Nice man , listen , you know when

54:33

I was listening to that again , because

54:35

I was in Japan too , so I don't know what part

54:37

of Japan you were in , um

54:40

, but we were in the Tokyo section , um we

54:42

were in uh .

54:43

We lived in Kyoto from 1998 to 2000

54:45

.

54:45

Kyoto . Yeah , yeah , we

54:47

were in Fusha uh , fusha Shishis , so

54:50

it's like a prefecture of uh

54:52

of Tokyo , man . So it was , they

54:54

call it the country of um

54:56

of Tokyo .

54:58

But yeah , it was far a lot .

54:59

It was like maybe three hours away from uh

55:02

Shibuya Shinjuku , you know all

55:04

that type of stuff .

55:04

But very nice .

55:06

Man . So I was like yo

55:08

, man , this guy , he's definitely been

55:10

to Japan just from the

55:13

uh , the album cover as well . Um

55:15

, cause , I was looking at some of the wrestling too . I was

55:17

like yo , they really going hard with this , um

55:20

, the wrestling too . And then I

55:23

come up on HGB beats and

55:26

I was like yo , I've been to Texas before

55:28

. I know anybody that

55:30

said Texan loves

55:32

HGB . Oh yeah

55:34

, and then you go with people's

55:37

reactions to you

55:39

know what I mean , the clips from people

55:41

just loving HGB , because HGB

55:43

is an experience man .

55:45

It really is .

55:46

It really is . And this beat tape is the same

55:49

thing , man . So how did you even come

55:51

up with this concept for HGB ?

55:52

beats . So the title came up

55:54

as a kind of like a joke . Um

55:56

, so me and

55:59

uh boom Baptist go to

56:01

the same HGB and we run into

56:03

each other there a couple of times . Um

56:05

, and after the second time we bumped into each other

56:07

. I DM'd him later like as

56:09

a joke , being like yo , we should make a

56:11

collab album and call it HGB . But

56:14

that name HGB is just kind of stuck in my

56:16

head already . Uh , even before

56:18

that there was a , a corduroy

56:20

show . He's another amazing , uh , electronic

56:23

producer here in Austin . Uh , I

56:25

, it might have been like an exploded drawing

56:27

or some sort of beat showcase that

56:29

my homie corduroy played at , and

56:31

in between tracks he was just like hello , welcome

56:33

to HGB . He just like on stage , which

56:35

made me laugh so much . But at the same time

56:38

it's like yo , like shout out HGB

56:40

, like that that's actually for real , representing

56:42

as fuck . So , uh , I

56:45

kind of got the idea in my head that , like yo , hgb

56:48

is like I kind of ride for HGB , bro . Honestly

56:50

, like I'm so down to name

56:53

an entire project after HGB

56:55

because I mean I go there every week , I

56:57

buy all my food in there every week , I cook

56:59

up in the kitchen with groceries from HGB , like

57:02

I cook up with uh with my beats at

57:04

home from samples and whatnot . So , uh , let's

57:06

just uh put two and two together and make

57:09

a make a project that represents

57:11

one of my great loves in Austin

57:13

, texas , and that is the grocery store HGB

57:16

.

57:16

Yo , man , yeah , if

57:19

y'all listen to this , if y'all haven't

57:21

listened to HGB , hg

57:24

beats , do yourself a favor

57:26

, man . I'm going to link his whole description in this show

57:28

. So yo , just do yourself

57:30

a favor , man , and support this joint . I

57:32

got the cassette um

57:35

, which I got to get you to sign , man , I got

57:37

. Next time I see you , you know , I got to get your autograph

57:39

.

57:39

Oh yeah , for show , for show .

57:40

Yeah , that one , and then

57:42

, uh , warp mode , I got . I got both of those , cause

57:45

I think that was a cassette too , right , um

57:47

?

57:47

as it was it sure was .

57:49

So I got both of those man , I got a , I

57:52

got a , I got to get your autograph on those man

57:54

. Um , and then you just came

57:57

out with um . What'd

58:00

you just come out with ? Um as a single

58:02

, that you just came out with actual um .

58:04

Oh you , you mean the one that I just dropped . Uh , this

58:06

week you just dropped it .

58:07

Yeah , you just dropped this joint .

58:10

Um , that one's called happy accidents , yeah

58:12

.

58:12

There you go , there you go . What's so ? Can

58:14

we talk about that ? That that joint right there real quick

58:17

? Is that leading up to a

58:19

new beat tape , a new album ? What's

58:21

what's happening with this ?

58:23

So yeah , uh , so , these new , these new releases

58:25

that I'm coming out with on Spotify , um , for one

58:27

, I have to shout out my team , that is the mind feeders

58:30

. They're these homies from

58:32

Berlin that are my um

58:34

, they're my management , they're my team and

58:37

they are helping me with , uh , helping

58:39

me with things like Spotify and , um , all other , all

58:42

other kinds of things in the background . Um

58:44

, they're the reasons that I got uh crazy

58:47

streams last year . Um

58:49

, it was . It was one of those situations where , like I

58:51

had built up my audience on Instagram

58:53

and they reached out to me and DM me like yo , maybe we

58:55

can work together . Um

58:58

, and after , after quite a long while of like negotiation

59:01

and figuring , each other out and , uh , you know cause you gotta have

59:03

your guard up in the internet days . Um , we went

59:05

through . We went through the long process of

59:07

getting to know each other , contract

59:09

negotiations , everything's super official . So

59:14

, in case anybody didn't know , I am with mind feeders . That is my

59:16

management , that is

59:18

my team , based in Berlin . They also they also manage

59:20

, they also manage Odyssey , which was really

59:23

the main reason . I was like all right , these

59:25

guys are legit . So , uh , all that in

59:27

the background . Um , so this is a the latest

59:29

in a series of singles that I have been releasing

59:33

with mind feeders

59:35

on , uh , on Spotify , and

59:37

for now , these in particular

59:40

. They're really just singles . I'd

59:43

say Spotify , but it's on all streaming

59:46

, everything . Um , apple music is surprisingly also like a really

59:48

good source of streams for me , because they

59:51

have a bigger audience in Europe . That's a

59:53

whole other thing , Um , but , yeah , so I have a series of singles

59:55

that I've dropped , with them just

59:58

on streaming , just to have like a kind of steady

1:00:00

flow of things happening . Um , but that is building into

1:00:02

something . So , um , I can't

1:00:04

really I don't want

1:00:08

to go into details right now , but I'm not going to do anything

1:00:11

. So , um , I can't

1:00:13

, really I don't want to go into details

1:00:15

right now , but I do have a

1:00:17

collab album with

1:00:20

uh , someone that I'm really , really excited

1:00:23

to work with . That's going to be coming out

1:00:26

next year . I can't really talk about

1:00:28

um who , I

1:00:30

can't really talk about the details yet , but it's going

1:00:32

to be a big collab album with uh

1:00:34

, with a bigger artist , and I will give

1:00:36

you I will give you one hint as to who the artist

1:00:39

is that I have this album that

1:00:41

I'm working on with . It is one

1:00:43

of the artists that has a

1:00:45

fat beats bakers

1:00:47

dozen . If you know about those

1:00:49

um , that uh vinyl series that fat beats

1:00:52

did . They reached out to a bunch of different producers

1:00:54

and have them had them put out like a 12

1:00:56

beat , uh , 12

1:00:59

, 12 joint beat tape . I am

1:01:01

producing with one of the dudes , uh

1:01:03

, that has one of those . I'm not going to say who it is

1:01:05

, but it's someone from Germany and

1:01:07

it's someone that I'm really excited to work with . So , yes

1:01:09

, I do have a big album coming out next year . Um

1:01:12

, other than that , I have

1:01:14

uh , I have a couple of

1:01:17

pretty . Another

1:01:19

thing I'm going to be a little bit coy about , but

1:01:22

I have a single in the tuck that

1:01:24

is also with a really well

1:01:26

known uh beat producer . Again

1:01:29

, I'm not going to say who it is , but I have played it out at

1:01:31

a couple of live shows , so some of

1:01:33

y'all that have been at some of my recent live shows might

1:01:35

know who it is that I'm working with . I'm

1:01:38

not going to say too much more on here , but um , yeah

1:01:41

, safe to say , things are brewing behind the scenes at the flow

1:01:43

bomb , the camp .

1:01:44

Yeah , man . So y'all tap into

1:01:46

flow bomber everything he's doing , Stay

1:01:48

tuned to his Instagram and

1:01:50

pay attention to his link treatment . Um

1:01:53

, listen , um . Last

1:01:55

two questions yeah , Um

1:01:58

, when , um , if

1:02:01

there's there's one thing that , uh

1:02:04

, that you could say to

1:02:06

up and coming , you know , beat makers , music

1:02:08

producers , composers , um

1:02:10

, about why

1:02:13

you create music , what

1:02:16

would you say ?

1:02:17

Do it cause you have to do it , bro . Do it cause you

1:02:19

have no choice . Cause it like soothes

1:02:22

your soul or cause you have the like fire

1:02:24

inside of you . You know , don't do it

1:02:26

for money , don't do it for clout , cause you will

1:02:29

fail . If that's your motivation , dude

1:02:31

, you got to do it cause it's what my

1:02:34

you know what my motivation is ? I want

1:02:36

to create the stuff that I want to hear

1:02:38

. That's like , at the end of the day , I

1:02:40

want to make music that doesn't exist but

1:02:43

that I need to exist . So

1:02:45

if you're doing it out of uh and another

1:02:47

way of saying that is to just do it out of love

1:02:49

do it out of love for the craft , do

1:02:52

it out of like being a nerd for music , whatever

1:02:54

it is . Just do it cause you feel like

1:02:56

you need to and do it because you feel like

1:02:58

it is inside of you .

1:03:01

Yo man , that's a ding ding

1:03:03

, ding , ding ding .

1:03:05

Yeah , Listen man .

1:03:08

Yo listen , you've done some amazing

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beatsets that uh that I've

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been a part of man backyard sessions

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put on by IKBC , austin

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man Preston man . It was rather

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unique . Um and

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yo and uh , the car , the

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cars that you've been a part of , that I've been able to see

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um and

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quickly like how , why

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? Why finger drumming um

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live , like why , why do that ?

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So when it comes to like watching beat performances

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live , um , I

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found that a lot of them are pretty

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visually boring just watching

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somebody there like pressing buttons

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and looking like they're checking their email . So

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my whole thing was look , I

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want , I want whoever's

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watching me to have

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a direct visual link of

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what this finger is doing

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and the sound that's coming out

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of it . You know , like watching somebody play like drums

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live or guitar live , you see

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them play the chord and you see , you hear

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the sound come out . At the same time , you see them

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shred the solo and you see their fingers move

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and there's that like , there's that

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visual element to it and it also tickles

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the part of your brain that's like oh , I get

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that satisfaction of like , oh

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, this , this movement is leading

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to this sound and it makes sense and it's like fun

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to see , like what's going to happen next . So

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part of the reason why finger drum live

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is that I just want uh , I

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just want the audience to be able to have

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that experience of actually having

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it feel like a performance and not necessarily

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just like , you know , pressing play or like

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I look like I'm checking my email back there , like . I want

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people to actually feel like I'm playing

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an instrument up there which can be really difficult

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for um , electronic music . Um

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, a lot of the times you'll see a performance where it's like I

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don't know synthesizers or modulars or like

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really esoteric and like cool looking

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gear . But if the guy's just up

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there like kind of twiddling knobs at

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least for me a lot of the times it just like doesn't

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necessarily connect

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all the way , like sometimes for

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performances like that you almost have

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to be another producer or

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another like sort of tech nerd to

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understand what's going on , to really have that connection

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to it . I want to remove that barrier

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and just have anybody from

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any background be able to understand what's going

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on and enjoy the beat set .

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Got you , I got you . Can you shout out your

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uh , your school , where you teach at man

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, I got it . You know what I mean . Like

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that's a big deal for a teacher . Ah

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, thank you , you got to shout that

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. I know the kids . You be like yo kids . I've been

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on a podcast . Check me

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out .

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Oh bro , I do not . I do not tell the kids . I

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do not tell the kids , I don't want them on my social

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media .

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I got you . I got you , man . So

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okay , Last question , man , and

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first of all I want to say thank you again for being

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on the show , hey thank you for having me . Thank you

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for your thank you for your time , my pleasure

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. The rest of 2020 , well

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, 2023 is coming to a close right , so

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2024 is going to be wide open

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. Besides

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what you told us , a little bit of like where can

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people find you ? What are your socials

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? Why should they tap into

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Flobama and what ?

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you're doing so

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, first of all , flobama 91 on everything

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FLOBAMA91

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, twitter , tiktok , instagram

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. All of that is Flobama

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91 . And

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people should tap into me if they

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feel , if they enjoy the music . You know , if

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you enjoy a good sample flip

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, if you're into some laid back vibes , if

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you're into lo-fi music , if you want to

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just have some cool background music to study

1:06:53

and chill to , or if you want to

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, if you're somebody who is a producer that

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wants to learn a little bit about I don't

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know , finger drumming or using

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Ableton or using a SP-404

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or anything like that , that would be another good

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reason to follow me . I have

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some . I'm always working on new

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beat videos

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, new beat Ableton cook up content

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, mpc content . I

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actually have a collab with the company

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Ableton that I'm working on

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that's going to be coming out sometime

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next year . I got

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a little thing in the works with Red

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Bull as well . That's like a smaller little

1:07:30

, just like fun video , but y'all can keep y'all's

1:07:32

eye out for that . And

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yeah , just if you feel the vibes , feel

1:07:37

free to holler at your

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boy .

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Yo , man , that's yo

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listen . Flowbomb has been featured on the Austin

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Chronicle too . Man , I'm

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going to link that article as well . I

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think that was like 2021 when you came out with

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that , but you know that's one of my

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career highlights .

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for sure , I was so proud of that moment .

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Yeah , so I got to link that in the description

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of the show so everybody can read that . Yo Flowbomb

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. I want to say thank you , man

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. Keep doing your thing . I'm paying

1:08:06

attention and supporting you , man . Thank

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you brother , you're going to definitely

1:08:11

have some new fans from

1:08:13

around the world . That's going to tap into you . Man

1:08:15

, y'all going to enjoy Flowbomb

1:08:18

man and if you enjoy his music , man , send

1:08:20

him a message . Man , shout it out . Send

1:08:23

him a message saying you enjoy it , what you enjoy about

1:08:25

it , because I'm pretty sure feedback

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is another piece

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of the social media . You know what

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I mean . This whole landscape , you know what I mean 100%

1:08:34

. That's important , man . So thank you for

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your time , man . I appreciate

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you , man , any last words you want to give

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to the internet .

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Uh , y'all stay breezy bros

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. Be some dope killers .

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Yeah , that's all I got , and

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that's totally nice . Oh

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working produce at H eb plus just minding

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my pairs in come quads when she

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walked in . I Need you

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to make something

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disappear . Oh

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