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Dependence and Codependence

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Dependence and Codependence

Dependence and Codependence

Dependence and Codependence

Dependence and Codependence

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0:00

Happy Friday, everyone! Have you got a nice weekend planned?

0:05

What am I up to? Oh, I'm meeting up with some

0:06

friends for a meal from work.

0:10

Happy birthday, Wendy, by the way. It'll be nice to not have

0:13

to cook for a change.

0:15

I tend to do most of the cooking in

0:15

our house, you see, cos me and my wife

0:19

have always had this rule that whoever

0:19

gets home first, starts the cooking.

0:24

But I work from home, with a five

0:24

second commute to the kitchen.

0:28

So it's pretty much me every night. But you know what?

0:31

I quite like it. I get to provide something for my wife,

0:32

and it means that she can do a workout

0:36

straight after work for 45 minutes

0:36

or whatever, without feeling rushed.

0:41

So it's nice to provide for her.

0:43

It's a nice feeling. Feels good, Because I love her.

0:47

She's important to me. And I see her as an extension

0:48

of myself, in some respect, and

0:53

so if she's happy, I'm happy.

0:56

And that's not a problem, is it? Well, it could be, if it's exaggerated.

1:00

In extreme cases, it could

1:00

be a symptom of codependence.

1:04

Because it's one thing to be a Florence

1:04

Nightingale character and want to

1:08

help people, but if you're constantly

1:08

drawn towards people who seem to need

1:13

help, if you feel the pull towards the

1:13

vulnerable little bird with a broken

1:18

wing character all the time, and feel

1:18

the need to step in and control their

1:23

life for them, then no, that's not good.

1:25

If you feel guilty because you aren't

1:25

helping somebody even though they've not

1:30

even asked for your help, then something's

1:30

not fair there, and it could be that your

1:35

sense of self is based on the effect that

1:35

you have on the outside world too much.

1:41

Rather than just being you.

1:44

Because being you should be good enough,

1:44

whether you're helping somebody or not.

1:49

So there's a sense of neediness to it.

1:52

You need to be helping them.

1:54

And again, That's not fair, and it's

1:54

not healthy for them either if you're

1:58

in a relationship with somebody. That's the difference between

2:00

dependence and codependence.

2:05

Joan and Jeff might have a great

2:05

relationship, but Jeff is constantly

2:09

needing reassurance that he's doing the

2:09

right thing, asking for permission to make

2:13

decisions so that he doesn't feel guilt

2:13

or regret if he chooses the wrong car

2:19

insurance company or something like that. Now, as long as His wife Joan reassures

2:21

him, Jeff, that's fine, I trust you.

2:27

Then hopefully his self esteem is

2:27

going to rise up, and although the

2:31

two people are dependent on each

2:31

other, they're not so enmeshed that

2:35

they feed each other's anxiety. But if Joan says, I know what's best,

2:38

let me show you what you need to do.

2:42

Then that could spoil what could

2:42

have been a very happy marriage.

2:46

Joan develops a personality type

2:46

of needing to control everything,

2:50

and Jeff's self esteem gets lower

2:50

and lower and lower, because he's

2:54

allowed his wife to take control.

2:56

To make all the decisions for him. And she thinks she's doing the right

2:58

thing, because she's only trying to help.

3:04

And until it's pointed out by I

3:04

don't know, a podcast that you

3:07

listen to, or you stumble across an

3:07

article on the internet somewhere.

3:11

Jeff doesn't stand up and say to Joan,

3:11

Hey Joan, I think you make me worse.

3:16

And Joan doesn't say, Yeah, actually

3:16

I think you make me worse as well.

3:21

And then the two of them go to

3:21

couples counselling, sort it

3:23

out, and live happily ever after. And we fix this with proper boundaries.

3:31

Healthy boundaries. Drawing a line between what is reasonable

3:32

assistance and what is unreasonable.

3:37

And if you feel the need to

3:37

help someone who's been, say,

3:41

kicked out by their partner? Maybe they sleep on your sofa for

3:43

two weeks, but they pay for their own

3:47

food, and they know they've only got

3:47

two weeks to find somewhere to live.

3:53

If you feel the need to go out of your

3:53

way to pick somebody up and take them to

3:56

work Then you tell them to walk to your

3:56

house, or if you drive past their house

4:01

normally, then you're only going to pick

4:01

them up if they're waiting outside, so

4:05

that you know that they want that lift.

4:09

You don't wait for them. I know it's context dependent, but

4:11

you live with those boundaries, and it

4:15

could go against your sense of self. But if your sense of self is built around

4:17

putting everybody else first That's when

4:22

your self esteem soon becomes rock bottom.

4:25

And I know that it's hard to break

4:25

the habits of a lifetime, but saying

4:29

no to others does mean eventually

4:29

learning to say yes to yourself.

4:34

And that's a far better habit. Anyway, time's up for today.

4:38

This is only a short

4:38

bonus episode after all.

4:41

As always, the full episode, if you want

4:41

to hear more, is on my Patreon page.

4:45

Look me up. There's a seven day free trial

4:46

anyway, if you're not sure.

4:49

Either way, have a lovely

4:49

weekend, everybody.

4:52

I'll see you soon. Bye!

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