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EP215 - Tiger Woods to leave Nike!?

Released Thursday, 21st December 2023
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EP215 - Tiger Woods to leave Nike!?

Thursday, 21st December 2023
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right guys, welcome back

0:49

to our end of

0:51

year special. Yes.

0:59

A virtual golf show podcast. Officially episode 215. Hi Guy, how

1:01

are you? I'm good,

1:03

but I've got a little bit of deja

1:05

vu. And the reason

1:07

we've got deja vu, you're not a chipper right now. You're

1:09

coming across like you are. We've just recorded for 25 minutes

1:13

of absolute pure podcast

1:15

gold and the SD

1:17

card apparently corrupt. What does that

1:19

mean in layman's terms, Rick? It's all gone

1:22

to... Yeah, it's gone down the swanny. So

1:24

we've got to do all that stuff again now. Pretend

1:27

it's all new. Hi Rick.

1:29

I am okay. Thank you. How

1:32

are you today? Let's get the script back

1:34

out. No, we wanted to do a last

1:36

end of year podcast for you hardcore podcast

1:38

fans. It's not been quite as regular upload

1:41

schedule recently because of trips away, a few

1:43

guests, et cetera. But we wanted to get

1:45

one more nice little cheeky episode in before

1:47

the Christmas break. Let me just elaborate on

1:49

that for a second because there's been a

1:51

few people in the podcast Facebook group asking about

1:53

the podcast and I don't mind that at all. I love it because

1:55

it means those people are missing it and they want it. We

1:58

do the podcast. We love doing the podcast.

2:00

I know this is gonna be obvious to

2:02

people listening and watching the main channel content

2:04

has to come first, right? And these last

2:06

couple of weeks you've been away in America

2:08

Then we were in Dubai then we've had

2:10

lots of film and through so many club

2:12

releases around the corner We're filming lots of

2:15

content I'd like to say now the start

2:17

of 2024 in my opinion is the most

2:19

of excited ever been for our content right

2:21

now Right at this

2:23

moment in time albeit that SD card just

2:25

corrupt which hopefully it's not any other footage

2:27

on right now. We've got 27

2:30

videos filmed in the can it's insane and

2:32

never we've never had that many videos filmed

2:34

ready to go into a brand new year

2:36

Absolutely not so because of that the podcast

2:38

is somewhat taken about seat Well slightly and

2:41

I think you've got a family holiday book which

2:43

you've very much deserved early Jan So I would

2:46

hand on how I think probably by middle to

2:48

back end of Jan. We're back on the Tuesday

2:51

Every single week uploads if you do wonder where we've

2:53

gone. Do not worry. Do not worry We'll still be

2:55

active in the group if you want to have a

2:57

chat towards come into the Facebook group Rich's golf show

2:59

podcast will be chatting in there. I will

3:02

be anywhere. Will you be chatting in there?

3:04

Obviously, of course it will and I'm pretty

3:06

confident in the next two three weeks Nothing

3:09

major in the world of golf is gonna happen I'm

3:12

sure nobody's gonna leave a clothing brand that

3:15

they've been attached to for the last 30

3:17

odd years I'm sure that no other

3:20

players are gonna join John Rahm live

3:22

team. I'm pretty sure that No

3:25

big equipment changes from any players

3:27

to honest equipment changes from players

3:29

seems like the smallest amount of

3:31

news these days Oh, yeah, like

3:33

it's much bigger than that now.

3:35

Um, but yeah, it's all been

3:37

a crazy crazy year There's been

3:39

a drama left right and center

3:42

I'm not quite sure where the world of golf is right

3:44

at this present moment in time, but I'll tell you one

3:46

thing Right now the

3:48

Gulf media the Gulf world brings a

3:50

lot of headlines I love it that

3:53

are very clickable and very watchable and

3:55

very talkable about so yeah,

3:57

it's an exciting time. We have massive

4:00

trip like you mentioned, I've been in

4:02

America filming with Bryson DeChambeau. I

4:05

was over there for a week or so filming with Bryson,

4:07

did a 10 shot challenge within, the video is out now

4:09

if you've not checked it out, do check it out. Very

4:12

good match, I threw a few shots

4:14

away at the end but also finished it

4:16

with an incredible final hole to check that out.

4:20

Also we filmed another 10 shot challenge that will be

4:22

coming out in January with another

4:24

player. Huge but that

4:26

might be February. That probably might be

4:28

February. January. Then

4:31

after America we flew over to Dubai, I met

4:33

you in Dubai. We filmed loads

4:35

of killer content in Dubai. We had our

4:37

match. We had our big, big

4:39

match. Huge match. We won't

4:41

spoil the result obviously. It

4:44

lived up to expectations. It was dramatic in

4:46

every sense of the word. I honestly believe

4:48

that our great grandchildren will talk about that.

4:51

I think so. They'll be enemies,

4:53

they'll hate each other because of it but they'll talk about it.

4:56

So that's all to come out. We also had

4:58

the pleasure, and I mean this from the bottom

5:00

of our hearts, had the pleasure of

5:02

spending a full day with Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy

5:05

is one of the nicest people in the world.

5:07

We got to do a 10 shot challenge with

5:10

him which is also a great video. He

5:13

also unlocked,

5:17

allowed us into his brain around how

5:19

he plays some incredible short game shots.

5:22

Also talks about the golf clubs that he currently has in the bag

5:24

and we did a very, very in

5:26

depth detailed long podcast which actually might

5:29

be the first podcast released in 2024.

5:33

Tommy is, we've been fortunate and you've even more so

5:35

but fortunate to spend so much time with some of

5:37

these amazing golfers. I'm always in awe of them because

5:39

of how well they play the game of golf. Obviously

5:41

they hit the ball a long way clearly. They hit

5:43

the ball so close the flag, the whole ports to

5:45

bunker game etc. However, once

5:48

you've seen that enough time, you're still in

5:51

awe of it but it's kind of what you expect. However,

5:53

with Tommy, what you don't get

5:56

over, genuinely, genuinely, is how

5:58

nice the guy is. a lot

6:00

being crude all the money in the world all the success

6:02

he's playing the rider cup he's hit the winning shot he

6:05

is an amazing career so far and yet

6:07

he's just a normal

6:10

guy who is so nice so sound his

6:12

wife was with us as well she was

6:14

lovely yeah what a

6:16

great guy and I actually want to spend as much

6:18

time as we can to make content he's just awesome

6:20

yeah he's really really good so those videos are coming

6:22

out soon and also this

6:25

week I've been a very good boy

6:27

recently you're having a good boy

6:29

hopefully I'm on the good list I

6:34

have been last nine weeks grinding I've

6:37

not been I've not dropped dropped I've

6:39

not dropped a single drink of alcohol

6:41

yeah it's sipped a single drop of

6:43

you have dropped pounds many

6:46

pounds around my waist and so I've

6:48

been working hard in the gym eating

6:50

better not drinking however that starts all

6:52

good I'm gonna continue that into 2024

6:54

however we're a little bit of a

6:56

blowout at the start this week because

6:58

we had our staff Christmas do oh

7:00

she Ricky was up we was Ricky

7:02

there or not I made it was

7:05

Ricky with an IE not Ricky the Y I think

7:08

it was I think it was it wasn't Richard it

7:10

was it wasn't what I'd

7:12

normally be so I've not drank for nine weeks we

7:14

went and played we went to the Braberson Bell

7:17

free wonderful resolve it the full

7:19

team the team here is I

7:22

think it surprises people how big

7:24

the team is every

7:27

single person in the team does an incredible

7:29

job they really do and they've been amazing

7:31

this year they really have but we've we

7:33

went over to the Bell free we had

7:35

a full day on the Braberson golf course

7:37

Braberson was in great condition the brat for

7:39

the time of year we're lucky we play

7:41

some amazing golf courses typically this time you'd

7:44

have to go to coach to get a

7:46

good quality golf course I

7:48

was very impressed by the Braberson

7:50

greens were slick so after nine

7:52

holes no alcohol had been consumed

7:55

and then it got to the turn and

7:57

I had a crack to open a can of a

7:59

strella yeah and I had two Jack Daniels

8:01

and Co. He was back. And I was ready. I

8:04

was hammered. Yeah, he was. Yeah, you were. What'd

8:06

you say, Hogan? You're so sound, you mate. That

8:09

was a bit of a give it away. No,

8:11

it was good. We had a

8:13

mixture of golfers and non-golfers in the team. You were

8:15

a non-golfer. I was just so fine. And

8:17

it was very, very good. We had a nice, lovely

8:19

meal. We had a bit of poker after. We did.

8:21

You were a dark horse in the poker world. I

8:23

don't know what the poker was. There was 11 of

8:26

us playing. I'm not a big poker guy, but I

8:28

took the winnings easy. It's like taking candy from a

8:30

baby. With his sunglasses over there and his hoodie. Do

8:32

not talk to me. No, you played well. I

8:35

did play, yeah. Thanks. So, yeah, you managed to take the

8:37

spoils of the poker, which is good. In fact, I

8:40

have actually got your little Christmas present. Really?

8:42

I was gonna give you the staff, dude. This is what

8:44

I'm gonna win for poker. Okay, I'm expecting big ear. Let's

8:46

see what I've got. You might, people might

8:48

watch in. Might

8:51

notice we're rocking a little bit of

8:53

new head work. We're gonna do RS merch and

8:55

the Break 75 merch, but also got your

8:57

little present card. Okay, I'm excited for this. What

9:01

is it? What could it be? So,

9:04

as a gift for being

9:06

such a fantastic host, I've got you

9:08

a brand new RS. Wow.

9:11

A mallet cover. Wow, okay, let me take a closer

9:13

look at this. Right, so you tell us about the

9:15

quality guy. Well, let me get me

9:18

a head around it first. Okay, so the good news

9:20

is, Rick, you give me a mallet head cover putter.

9:22

Putter head cover. I have a mallet putter. I'm well

9:24

known for using a spider. People think about me. When

9:26

they think a guy can't, they think a spider straight

9:28

away, don't you? This would be, this will fit my

9:31

spider. The quality is very nice.

9:33

So he's got it all here, but my putter head cover

9:35

here, it's got the white RS on, I love that. Magnetic.

9:40

I like magnetic for two reasons, Rick.

9:42

Firstly, doesn't lose its, doesn't

9:44

lose its magneticism over time. Secondly,

9:48

when you take your putter cover off

9:50

the putter, you then magnet it onto

9:52

your item, so it doesn't get dirty. The

9:55

only qualm I've got with this head cover,

9:57

Rick, is black

9:59

and white. fits my Kulski in my golf

10:01

bag perfectly. On

10:03

the back side, it's got the be phenomenal one

10:05

of your catch phrases, which I like. Don't get

10:07

me wrong. However, I would

10:10

much rather be a clubhouse guy.

10:12

Well, if only there was one.

10:14

Funny you say that, because available

10:16

now at rickshields.com is the full

10:18

collection of the IRS merch, including

10:21

Malick Putter covers with the clubhouse,

10:23

exclusively for clubhouse members only. Limited

10:25

edition, may I add. There is

10:28

also driver head covers available. Some

10:30

fantastic ones. There's no block everything.

10:32

There's this one where it's business

10:34

on the front, party on the

10:36

back with the shot tracers. There's

10:38

the paint splatter head cover with you

10:40

rip it on the top, which encourage you to

10:43

hit those bombed long drives. And once you get

10:45

on the greens, another matching head cover that says,

10:47

hole it. The

10:50

merchandise also bleeds into smaller

10:52

accessories, such

10:54

as ball markers, this reversible

10:57

RS blacken, red one, pitchforks,

10:59

teapags, you know, beanies, t-shirts,

11:01

hoodies. Whatever you

11:03

want is available now to buy at

11:05

rickshields.com. If you want a

11:07

last other source of towels as well, a

11:10

catchphrase towel, all my catchphrase is on and

11:12

also a cool black be phenomenal towel. If

11:15

you are a little bit too late to order

11:17

pre-Christmas, do not fret. You can order

11:19

a gift card for your loved ones. So you

11:21

can give them something on Christmas day so they

11:23

can spend in the shop at rickshields.com. You could,

11:25

but forget that. Order it for yourself. Correct. Christmas

11:28

is not a time for giving to other people. It's time for giving

11:30

yourself a new head cover. I think this might

11:32

be my favorite piece. I like that, I do. But

11:35

as again, as a mallet guy, and as

11:37

a OG, as a founder, CEO, head doorman

11:39

of the clubhouse, I have to stay loyal

11:41

to the clubhouse. I get that. So

11:44

I have basically got this one, I have got it,

11:46

but I've got the clubhouse version. And I will use

11:48

that till the day I die. It's a mistake. You

11:50

can't drop it. Or till the next merch drop comes

11:52

out, I might drop it. This is the Tiger Strike

11:54

1, the RS Tiger Strike. So yeah, there's loads of

11:57

cool stuff, guys. Thanks for your support. The quality of

11:59

this stuff is absolutely... incredible. I wouldn't

12:01

put my name on it if it wasn't

12:03

phenomenal. So thanks to the guys at PRG

12:05

who've made some incredible product. They make all

12:07

the Ryder Cup merch and Open merch and

12:09

now they make the RS merch as well.

12:12

Check it out, rickshields.com. It gets ordered to

12:14

UK and US currently. We are working on

12:17

the new year of shipping it globally to

12:19

every four corners of the globe. I think

12:21

you know, jokes aside, that is the big

12:23

thing that for me, you know, obviously I'm

12:25

very close to this stuff but genuinely now

12:27

if you look at a lot of the

12:29

big brands and there's, you know, I don't want

12:31

to kind of call out the brands but there's drivers

12:33

these days are looking at five, even six hundred quid

12:35

and obviously a lot of R&D goes into

12:37

those drivers etc but then you look at the head covers that

12:39

come on them and they often are

12:41

very thin, very flimsy. The quality of this stuff, if

12:44

you touch it, if you feel it, I'm sure some

12:46

of you watching, listening have got some

12:48

or you know my friends who've now bought some of this

12:50

stuff as well. Have a look at it, have a feel

12:52

of it. I would, hand

12:55

on heart, I would, what's the word I'm

12:57

looking for, I would be hard, you'd be

12:59

hard-pressed to find someone that is not genuinely

13:02

impressed by this quality of head cover. The

13:04

feedback's been really, really positive. Thank you everybody

13:06

supporting the channel. Also, I want to take

13:08

this opportunity to thank every single body that

13:11

listens, watches, comments, subscribes, interacts with the Facebook

13:13

group. You guys that make this so important

13:15

for us that we can continue to do

13:17

the podcast. Your support has been amazing and

13:20

if you want to pick up some merch

13:22

feel free to do so at rickshields.com and

13:25

everybody that I see rocking the merch will get a

13:27

big handshake and maybe even a hug. Maybe

13:29

even you might reimburse the purchase as well.

13:31

So if you spend £100 on merch, go

13:33

up to Rick and you wear the head

13:35

covers like oven mitts. Oh Ricky, Ricky, Ricky,

13:37

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky Shields. You'll then reimburse them.

13:39

So it's actually a make-profit really, if anything.

13:42

So yeah, check all that out

13:44

and who knows with this, with

13:47

all the rumors going around at

13:49

the moment with Mr. Tiger Woods,

13:51

potentially, potentially it's the

13:53

last time we're ever going to see him in Nike

13:55

gear. Yeah. Maybe. The rumor is he

13:58

might be rocking RS gear next year. Well I will

14:00

make you a deal now live on Earth. If

14:02

Tiger Woods is ever seen, even with a metre

14:04

of RS merch, but WOAH an RS merch in

14:06

particular, I will eat my Bricks up in your

14:08

tyre paps. How's that sound? With a knife and

14:10

fork. Done. But who knows? I'm

14:13

Charlie Woods of the Way In. Charlie, Charlie will

14:15

rock it. I'll send him a little care package.

14:17

Yes. Erm... Yeah Tiger,

14:19

might not be with Nike. Yeah this is a strange

14:21

one, so I'm sure we're not the first on to

14:23

this, but the people watching this will know. Some might

14:26

not know, but obviously Tiger has been wearing Nike's in

14:28

Turn Pro in 96. Erm...

14:31

He is arguably, I

14:33

would say, even... Well, I think

14:35

you've got Tiger, you've got Michael Jordan,

14:37

and you've probably got Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo,

14:39

who are... And Serena Williams maybe, who

14:41

are... They

14:43

are Nike through and through aren't they? The

14:46

rumours are that Tiger is parting ways

14:48

with Nike. Can't remember where these rumours

14:50

initially came from, however, he was

14:52

asked in a press conference at the PNC,

14:54

twice in a row, about his

14:57

relationship with Nike, and his answer was something

14:59

along the lines of, I'm wearing their product

15:01

right now. Well,

15:03

I think we can, you know, we don't understand it to

15:05

be rumours and egg them on,

15:07

but we can say that that probably says enough.

15:09

You would say more if you were

15:11

carrying on with Nike. I think from what I understand

15:13

as well, he was on a 10 year deal from

15:15

2013, obviously that's coming to an end. Erm...

15:19

Where he's gonna go, what he's gonna

15:21

be wearing, who knows? But the

15:24

positive thing is, we never thought

15:26

we'd see the day where Tiger seems like he's

15:28

back again. How many times can we actually

15:30

say that? He's been

15:32

out, obviously, having treatment after... It

15:35

was the Masters this year we saw the last of him.

15:37

Yes. We've not seen him at

15:39

all until the hero championship about three weeks

15:41

ago, where he played very nicely. Playing

15:44

the PNC with Charlie Woods, who's just an unbelievable

15:46

character. I'd love to get Charlie on the channel

15:48

one day. I think it'd be amazing

15:50

if we could. But Charlie was

15:52

there just ripping it off every single year. He

15:55

seems like he's getting better and better. Erm...

15:58

And then... He's now coming... committed

16:00

or said that he wants to try and play in

16:02

a tournament every month. So we are

16:04

going to see him at the Masters in April. We are

16:06

going to see him at the Open at Royal True next

16:08

year. We are going to see him at

16:10

the US PGA. We

16:12

might not see him at the

16:14

US Open because apparently his exemption

16:16

has expired from that venue. I

16:20

think he'll be at the US Open. I think for

16:22

me, I'm actually wearing a side-wards jumper so obviously it

16:24

goes out saying I'm sure people listening and watching who

16:26

listen and watch a lot know this. I'm a huge

16:28

tag of fans obviously. I think

16:30

he looks like you said fit. He's

16:33

hitting some great golf shots. He looks fast.

16:35

He looks absolutely jacked. Also as

16:37

well, one thing you did mention then but I think it's

16:39

also great to show his fitness. Not

16:41

only has he played at the PNC and the Hero, he's

16:43

been cad-ing lots for Charlie. It's been those kind of images,

16:45

leaks and stuff which you think if he's walking around carrying

16:47

a golf bag for 18 holes, cad-ing,

16:49

he must be feeling relatively fresh

16:52

and fit. I just

16:54

hope that if he just plays once a month, he

16:56

is competitive. I think for me, when you think of

16:58

Tiger Woods, you actually think of lots

17:01

of things but ultimately you think of being

17:03

an absolute dominant force. I

17:06

suppose it's like football when players retire at

17:08

the right time or sometimes they don't and

17:10

they carry on and they're not the same

17:12

as they were and it can sometimes damage

17:14

a career. I don't think Tiger ever

17:17

would carry on playing if he doesn't think he can

17:19

win. He said that at the Hero, that he thinks

17:21

he can win, he feels he can win. I

17:23

hope he is up there. I hope he's making cuts

17:25

and he's in those top 10 and winning

17:29

majors maybe, I'd love to see it but I

17:31

just hope he is. I don't want to be

17:33

kind of let down but who knows. He might

17:35

be listening to another

17:37

major trophy, another major

17:40

tournament not rocking a Nike swoosh which

17:42

would be very bizarre. Silly

17:44

question then but would he be a huge loss for Nike?

17:46

Now my initial answer to that would be yes, of course

17:48

he would but when you think about

17:50

sports on a more deeper level, think about

17:53

why brands pay athletes no matter

17:55

what sport to use their

17:57

product. It's for two reasons really.

18:00

This to sell more product

18:02

obviously as was. Secondly, it's

18:04

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Even. though you know that and athletes get paid

19:58

a lot of money to use something or promote

20:00

something. You also then or I do anyway think

20:02

well they must also still trust

20:05

it to use that. So whether

20:07

it be John Ramm with Callaway, he's

20:09

getting paid an absolute fortune to use Callaway but

20:11

equally you think well he must also like it

20:13

or else he wouldn't want to use it for

20:15

his career. I think what Ty

20:18

did with Nike, Nike

20:20

was in golf before Ty, Seviwell Stieros used to

20:22

wear it a long long time ago but

20:25

he really brought Nike into golf didn't

20:27

he and he made golf cool. Has

20:31

he done his bit almost, you know

20:33

they've still obviously got Rory, they've obviously

20:35

got Brooks Koepka, there's obviously several guys,

20:37

there's Nelly Korda as well etc. wearing

20:39

it on the women's tours. Does

20:42

it matter now to lose Tiger? What

20:45

will be interesting though is it's not about

20:47

maybe losing Tiger, it's whoever Tiger goes to,

20:49

is he the first Nike athlete to go

20:52

there? Who could

20:54

maybe go next? Will it be Rory goes and

20:56

joins him? Will it be Brooks Koepka goes

20:59

and joins him potentially? Is

21:01

he the first domino to fall potentially? Well and

21:03

the other thing as well and we are looking

21:05

quite deep but it's only clothes and shoes

21:09

but if surely

21:11

Tiger is obviously worth a lot of money to

21:14

Nike, he has to be. He might be looking

21:16

at it purely financially and thinking right they're willing

21:18

to pay me, these are the numbers that are

21:20

made from thinner, $10 million a year right? Over

21:23

10 years that's $100 million. However if I

21:25

go launch my own company or get shirts

21:27

in an existing company, I can

21:29

get $20 million a year, over 10 years that's

21:31

double the money that's better. But

21:35

is it that or is it that Nike are thinking you

21:37

know what we can pay Tiger $10 million a year but

21:39

it's not worth it for us? You know we don't think

21:41

golf is that important anymore, we want to focus on football,

21:43

soccer, whatever, we want to focus on tennis, we want to

21:46

focus on now they do a lot in the gym wear

21:48

and stuff. Is it that they're

21:50

not looking at golf being that attractive, that profitable

21:52

maybe? If that's the case the

21:54

biggest, if that's the case is that a

21:56

bad thing for golf? That you know ultimately

21:58

Nike are the biggest sport brand in

22:00

the world and they're not

22:03

carrying on their relationship with the

22:05

best-known golfer of all time does

22:07

that say something about the sport? Would that happen with

22:09

Ronaldo or you know I did ask with David Beckham

22:11

he's retired long since but he's still gonna be a

22:14

lifetime athlete. Yeah I think I think again going back

22:16

to why they even pulled out and making equipment obviously

22:18

you worked for Nike at the time and I was

22:20

kind of not long after I was I

22:22

was wearing Nike clothes as

22:24

well is I think that a lot

22:26

of their decisions is based on on business yeah

22:28

it's not emotional it's sometimes it's like well these numbers

22:30

just don't add up we're spending

22:33

X amount on Tiger, Rory,

22:35

Rook, Nelly, Jason Day, all

22:37

these other players well

22:39

we're not we're not balancing the books over

22:42

here. We're paying them 50 million we're only making 30 million

22:44

well this isn't adding up anymore. Do you know

22:46

what I mean? It might just be as simple

22:48

as that really. Well yeah but you think of

22:50

what you look obviously all these new purses now

22:52

obviously PJ Thor trying to fund and you know they're

22:55

gonna have to get more eyeballs on golf to

22:57

justify it if the players are getting paid so

22:59

much money now that money has to come from somewhere

23:01

come from investments it comes from sponsors for

23:04

me it's not a great thing if Nike are

23:06

coming away from Tiger because it makes you feel

23:08

like they mustn't see a return on investment and it's

23:10

not bad for the world of golf I don't

23:12

know I don't know we can go on all day about it

23:14

but it will be weird. I think the only way we can

23:16

find out is if Tiger

23:19

comes on the podcast. Correct. Tiger if you

23:21

want to email us at podcast at rickshields.com

23:23

and if you want to come on the

23:25

podcast I'm sure we if you can fly

23:27

into Manchester Airport. Yeah economy that's fine. We'll

23:29

cover your economy flight yeah we'll get you

23:31

an Uber and we'll get you an Uber

23:33

here to the studio and then you can

23:35

come and spend maybe an hour here and

23:37

maybe two hours we will treat you to

23:39

a burgerism. A burgerism okay fair dues. Treat

23:41

you to a burgerism. A prize

23:43

as well. And then get you an Uber home

23:46

back to the back to the Premier Inn you can

23:48

stay at the Premier Inn and then flight the next

23:50

day yeah so thanks for that and then you can

23:53

really tell us the reason why maybe you're not wearing

23:55

a Nike connection. I wonder if someone actually listens to

23:57

this podcast what his reaction would actually be. raise

24:00

a half smile would he say what absolute idiot

24:02

do these kids yeah kids would

24:06

he say kids anyway

24:09

and on tiger potential coming

24:11

on the podcast next year hmm is

24:14

there anybody that you would love to have

24:16

on the podcast next year okay good question

24:18

clearly tigers holy grail I

24:20

would love to also have I

24:23

love to have Rory on and

24:25

I think for me now with obviously what's going on

24:27

with Liv and row is kind of his

24:30

kind of position I always come off the tour

24:32

board thing but I feel

24:34

like it was only a little bit older than me a year

24:36

or so older than me it feels like he's a real kind

24:38

of what's the word I'm looking for like figurehead

24:41

of golf yeah and I

24:43

think spokesperson for golf and he really is one

24:45

of the few golfers I would say certainly in

24:47

the UK was a household name like you it's

24:49

a random person who doesn't even much interesting sport

24:52

and to name a golfer they probably say ty goods

24:54

and Rory McElroy I actually want to

24:56

speak to as much about his golf in terms

24:59

of his performances but just more about about golf

25:01

and his future the future of golf and things

25:04

that were doing right things were doing wrong I think that'll be

25:06

interesting and then get him on

25:08

a 10 shot challenge and then a 10 shot challenge

25:10

that would be phenomenal maybe a 20 shot challenge I'd

25:12

love to get obviously John Rahm yeah there's

25:14

obviously moving on to live now would I

25:17

I'd like to I'd like to ask him

25:19

genuinely the questions around come on John this

25:21

these are the things you said and he

25:23

didn't think you now say yeah explain money

25:27

that's fine I'm gonna be explained it and

25:29

I'd also genuinely really like to get someone like a

25:31

Scotty Cameron on yep yes

25:33

like the guy who actually makes incredible

25:35

putters yeah like that'd be a mad one

25:38

as well and just interesting

25:40

guests I mean we've had some phenomenal

25:42

guests on this year again who's who's

25:44

been who's been you kind of

25:46

stand out favorite guests that we've had on this

25:48

year Wow good question go on then you go

25:50

if you've got one lined up hit me generally

25:52

my favorite one this this year's been Robert Rock

25:55

mmm shout I thought Robert Rock after the

25:57

career he's had on the on the tour

28:00

owns a small pro shop but got a great story.

28:02

I think that is, I think yeah

28:04

for me as variety isn't it? It's

28:06

that and also something I really love

28:08

doing with the videos or podcasts is

28:11

giving people either new people to follow and almost fall

28:14

in love with or give

28:16

people a new perception

28:18

somebody. So yesterday actually after our work still went to

28:20

the driving range near me I went to Clark's Golf

28:23

Centre whacking some balls and I was walking

28:25

out a lady stopped me and she was

28:27

lovely, her name was Nicola, we got chatting, she

28:29

was a member at two golf courses that are

28:31

really good. She was a member at South Putter

28:33

Nainsdale in Sillis and we were chatting about

28:35

the videos and she was chatting about the Bryson video with you and she loved

28:37

it and she actually said that

28:40

it really changed the perception on Bryson and

28:42

I saw a lot of comments saying that as well and we had

28:44

a similar thing with it I don't want to kind of name everybody

28:47

but a few golfers were filmed with people said you know what? I

28:49

think being Poulter was a big one. Poulter was a big one and

28:51

you know something after the whole live stuff. People

28:53

came into it thinking oh I'm

28:55

not sure on that person for whatever reason

28:57

and watched it and saw that more human

28:59

side of the person and really enjoyed

29:01

it. I think that's the thing for me if we can do that

29:03

with videos and we can you know we

29:05

can showcase guests who don't always have that big of a

29:08

platform and so like Robert Rock I mean he's

29:10

been there, he's done it, he's beaten Tiger Woods

29:12

in a huge event but doesn't really I would

29:14

say get the kind of credit he maybe deserves

29:17

or the recognition. So to get and

29:19

it's I don't know how much I'm condescending that we're giving

29:21

them that but to put them on a big platform

29:23

and let them tell their story I do enjoy

29:25

that. No it's really really good and like I

29:27

say we're gonna get some banger, more banger guests

29:30

next year. Just a bit of

29:32

housekeeping I think we mentioned start this podcast

29:34

that we'll probably have a little bit of

29:36

time off now for the podcast probably

29:39

the start of Jan

29:42

not quite sure when date. We've got the Tommy Fleetwood

29:44

podcast recorded. Yes. That might be the first one that

29:46

goes out as the start of Jan. And then you're

29:48

on holiday so we'll have a bit of a delay.

29:50

I think back end of Jan is when it gets

29:52

back up and running every single Tuesday wherever

29:55

you listen to your podcast or watch your podcast

29:57

on YouTube feel free. Of course. Good.

30:00

I've got just a few questions

30:03

Rick. Super quick questions because we

30:06

have been asking our favorite

30:08

people, in fact actually there

30:11

might be new hierarchy. So

30:13

you are, you would class

30:15

people who listen to the podcast and they

30:17

listen to every episode of the podcast and

30:19

are in the Facebook group, like family wouldn't

30:21

you? You'd say they're like your family.

30:24

They're in the Facebook group too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. However,

30:27

what people that have done all that

30:29

and bought merch. Yeah, that's a different

30:31

level. You know what I mean? It's

30:34

like a brother or a sister. However,

30:38

we have asked the questions in that group and

30:40

we'll go through a few before we wrap this

30:42

up. Okay. Tim Morris

30:44

Rick, what is the best and worst

30:46

golf related extra presents you've ever received?

30:48

Oh my god. The

30:51

worst Christmas presents I've

30:53

ever received was like, I was

30:57

quite young back in the day, but like a

30:59

counter family shot. You need it. I

31:01

didn't go by enough. So that

31:04

was the worst one. And then probably the best one,

31:07

what's the best present I've had as a golf gift? I've

31:09

actually got mine in my head and it might surprise you.

31:12

I don't think I've ever had an amazing golf gift present.

31:14

Well, there you go. That's it. Clubhouse golf. That's my best

31:16

present I've ever had. The worst one I've ever had and

31:18

it's only a few years ago from my wife, I think

31:20

I mentioned this couple of years ago on here, was those

31:22

golf pens. It's like a golf club, a mini little golf

31:25

club that you take the head off and the grip off

31:27

and a pen comes out. And was it in a little

31:29

tiny bag? Correct. They're not

31:31

great. The best, I've actually got

31:33

two and they're very, very contrasting. This is when I

31:35

was very, very young. One year I was very lucky

31:37

I got a power caddy and

31:39

I was a member of a very, very, very hilly golf

31:41

club. So although I was a young junior, a power

31:44

caddy was almost essential to try and play decent golf because

31:46

the hills used to kill you. And

31:48

before I got this power caddy, I had

31:51

like a fake one, basically from, from macro,

31:53

it was like Costco and it was garbage.

31:55

It kept breaking and I eventually got a

31:57

genuine power caddy that was brilliant. But

31:59

on the... Complete flip side because that was

32:01

obviously a very expensive gift. One year, this

32:04

sounds really geeky, I got a diary, I've

32:06

only got 10, like an actual diary because

32:08

it was a bespoke golf diary and

32:10

I don't know what it was. A diary or a calendar?

32:12

An actual diary. No, I would never put stuff in it

32:15

as such but it was like, it probably had in, I

32:17

can't remember it a little bit, but I would have had

32:19

like the dates of the majors like today and inside it

32:21

would have had like a handicapped chart and like oh three

32:23

quarters of twenty-eighties whatever and for whatever

32:25

reason I absolutely loved it. That's up

32:28

there for me but

32:30

it's not always how much you spend Rick and that's why

32:32

I love the Rick Shields merch because you can go cheaper.

32:34

You can go bull market. Or

32:36

you can go for some fancy head cover.

32:39

Rick, Kevin Nash, what are our goals for 2024? Let's

32:42

go just purely on the golf side of things. What's your goal for

32:44

2024? I've

32:47

got two, I've been thinking about these recently. I'm

32:49

actually genuinely thinking what

32:52

you're thinking of that. No, I just want to turn it into what you say. I'm

32:55

genuinely thinking of keeping

32:57

my handicap. Oh, okay. Like

33:00

for every round of golf, every break 75

33:02

and everything, almost trying to keep an actual

33:04

handicap. I like that. Yeah,

33:07

I like that. My other one, and this is more of a vain

33:09

one but I think it would, it's

33:11

weird because it's probably not the part of my game I need to be

33:13

working on but I do think it'll make a difference.

33:16

I want more clubhead speed. I want more ball speed

33:18

and clubhead speed and distance. I want 115 miles per

33:20

hour clubhead speed, over 170 miles per hour ball speed

33:22

and I want to be bombing it over 300 yards

33:24

again. Again? I

33:27

used to back in the day when I was

33:29

young and fit. Yeah, no, yeah. I think, you

33:31

know what, for me, I don't really have to

33:34

play enough but I just actually enjoy playing golf

33:36

and also playing, I don't play very

33:38

well very often, I don't think most of us do, but play well

33:40

enough to enjoy and I think to me, everyone's

33:42

got different perception on that but when we obviously played a

33:44

lot of golf in Dubai, I was very fortunate to do

33:47

so. I don't want to

33:49

or expect to play amazing golf but

33:52

just to play a level where I'm hitting some good

33:54

tee shots, not losing loads of balls, just enjoying the

33:56

course, there's nothing worse than going to a golf course

33:58

you've never played before. which is actually what I

34:01

do a lot, as probably you do to a degree as well,

34:04

and just spraying everywhere. It's just not fun.

34:07

Yeah, like I said, I'm thinking about trying

34:09

to maintain a handicap of like plus, trying

34:12

to get in the plus. A handicap. Yeah, fair

34:14

dues. A bit keering, scary. Quite a strange

34:16

name, but fair dues. How does Rick feel

34:18

about playing golf in the UK in the

34:20

winter? Is it better just saving money and

34:23

spending time at the driving range and waiting

34:25

until spring, rather than battling courses, often in

34:27

challenging and wet and muddy conditions? It

34:29

is hard, isn't it? I can't really speak. I've just

34:32

been in America and Dubai for two weeks, trying

34:34

to run away from it all. But it is

34:37

hard. It is challenging. Obviously, it's time

34:39

to put a bit more work on your golf swing

34:41

at a driving range or getting

34:43

lessons. And then if you can

34:45

find nice Lynx golf courses that

34:47

don't cost too much. When we

34:49

were up to Dunsborough Castle, that

34:52

was like 20 odd quid, and you could play really solid

34:54

golf course. I don't think that'd be too wet because it's

34:56

quite Lynx. Lynx golf is where you need to be going

34:58

to. I think someone that

35:00

wants to improve, which I'm guessing Keering does, that's

35:02

a very good question because is it really worthwhile?

35:04

But the way I flip that is that everyone

35:07

knows winter golf certainly in parts of the UK, if it's

35:09

not a Lynx golf course, it's not as much fun, it's

35:12

wet, it's soggy, the ball gets covered in mud.

35:14

However, go and map that word for fun. I think you just got

35:17

to try and make it fun. So rather than thinking, oh, it's wet,

35:19

or I'm not going to hit it as far as I normally would,

35:21

have more battles with your friends, have more like foresons

35:23

or scrambles, or just do different things. Or

35:25

even just match play against each other because

35:28

then you're both playing the same golf course.

35:30

And then the other thing as well, actually,

35:32

again, in Dubai, we played every round on

35:34

a buggy, which is the kind of thing

35:36

you do when it's so warm. But

35:38

yesterday, day before yesterday, when we played

35:40

the belfry, we actually walked 18 holes.

35:42

I carried my bag, you used obviously a trolley,

35:44

which is too dissimilar, but I carried my bag.

35:47

And on my Woot bands, there's all my fitness calories,

35:49

whatever. I think like one and a half thousand calories,

35:51

walking like four or five miles with quite a heavy

35:54

golf bag, plenty of golf balls in there because I

35:56

need them. And I thought how

36:00

played that's like doing a lot of running

36:02

yeah I think about me going to do before about

36:04

15 K run if not more so that's it is

36:06

that that if you go in playing on a Saturday

36:08

even if the course is horrendous condition you don't massively

36:10

enjoy it see the exercise you got out in the

36:12

fresh air you spoke to your pals you've had a

36:14

bit of a fun time and

36:16

if you get wet so what you'll dry and if

36:18

you get muddy so what you can clean it it's

36:21

not nothing not the end of the world but yeah

36:23

if you can if you can find

36:25

somewhere dry you'll have more fun and guy thanks

36:27

for a great 2023 thank you for a great 2023 let's let's continue

36:33

to smash it in 2024 not sure

36:35

what camera camera and

36:37

thanks for the wonderful team here thanks for

36:39

everyone listening watching etc have a great Christmas

36:41

everybody and a happy new year and we

36:43

shall see you in 2024 what

36:46

would I buy

36:48

a friend quickly for Christmas there's only

36:50

one thing to buy Tiger

36:52

Stripe head cover while it's still

36:54

available. The stock

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is very low with that. Check it out

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at rickshills.com. Thanks everybody. Love you

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