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give us five stars. You only give
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us four stars. I'm inclined to believe
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you are a hater. It was a
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Super Bowl. Sean, does it sound like
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I spent a week in Las Vegas?
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It sure does. And my voice is
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not doing any better. We all chance
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the fates, man. Like, we got there
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Tuesday. We left on Saturday. That
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was doing the most. I've never spent that much
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time in Vegas in my life. Yeah, I mean,
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at least I stayed long enough at the end
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to get some of my money back. Like, it
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was a lot of fun. But I do have
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to say, like, once I got
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on that plane, I was just like, I can't
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believe I was there this long. I cannot believe
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I was there for this long. It was people
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that was there for long. Oh, my goodness. I
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can't imagine what it was like Saturday night, because
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by Friday, it started to crackle at you in
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a way that wasn't always entirely comfortable. It
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took a significant change Friday
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night, Saturday, where I was like, this is
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extremely too many people. And every Uber driver
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I got in the car with was like,
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you know we're supposed to have half a
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million people in town. And I was like,
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that's insane. That number felt low, to
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be perfectly honest, right? But it was a
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good time in Las Vegas. As you can
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tell from us leaving on Saturday, we didn't
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go to the game. Like, largely because the
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game is a television production. And so it
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is better for us in doing our jobs
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to talk to you from here than to
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have actually been in that stadium. And then
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quite honestly, if I stayed in that place
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for another 36 hours, I'm not sure I
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would have lived. Like, I'm not sure I would have made it out
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of there in one single
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whole piece. I can't promise you. But what
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we had was a Super Bowl. I
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don't know if we can call it a very
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good Super Bowl. I think that this is perhaps
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the worst Super Bowl to have if you were
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here in our media business. and what made it
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a bad Super Bowl to have in our media businesses.
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Like, Sean, do you have any way that you would
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describe it? I don't. I
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know what word you're looking for, but I can't really
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describe it. I don't know how you know what word
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I'm looking for, because I don't know what word I'm
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looking for, to be perfectly honest. Like,
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it was not a great
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game. Like, a friend of the program
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sent a text that was like, look man, this game is
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kind of wearing me out, right? Like, it was
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not a top-notch football game, but
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it wasn't because anybody played poorly.
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I didn't find anybody to be
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like, uniquely disappointing in any sort
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of way. We got an
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overtime game, but I have to be
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honest, I did not find the overtime
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element of it to be particularly suspenseful.
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I felt like I had a pretty
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good idea how the thing was going
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to ultimately go. Though, I guess there
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was a measure of suspense when
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the 49ers were marching down there close, because
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I thought that it was possible that they
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could score a touchdown, but I knew good and damn well that
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when G's got the ball, they was going to score a touchdown,
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because that was Jordan over there. We get back to that part
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in a minute, but I just
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thought it was a football game
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with the largest stakes. That's
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probably the way that I would describe it. Yeah,
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like, nobody
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had a like, definitive standout
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performance. I mean, it was
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really shaping up such
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that, so let's say that
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the 49ers had kicked a field
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goal in that first overtime drive,
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and therefore, whatever reason, the Chiefs went down
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the other way, it did not score, and
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the 49ers won. Sean,
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do you have a compelling argument against Juar
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Jennings for Super Bowl MVP? Because I feel
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like Juar Jennings would have been the Super
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Bowl MVP, or should have been the Super
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Bowl MVP of the 49ers and won. I
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agree. I think he did the most for
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that team. I mean, he's always been a
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great blocking receiver, but he scored and was
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clearly the only impact player outside
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of maybe McCaffrey. That's
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that that sound like Super Bowl MVP to
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me. That's what I would think that he
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would have been it But again, not that
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he had some earth-shattering level of performance even
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my homes I would say did not necessarily
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have oh one level He didn't have that
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the thing about my home that be easy
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for us to forget sometimes that dude put
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up an easy 66 yards
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on the ground Easy 66 yards
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my buddy Nick who was more invested in stolen
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the virtues of Patrick Mahomes than anybody else
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on planet Earth He does make the point though
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that my homes is maybe the most effective runner
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that we've ever seen play quarterback
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And I thought about that As
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it was getting down like when they had the
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fourth down and over time and as they were
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getting closer to the goal line The best cop
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I have for what it was like to watch
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him there a football cop not going right to
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the Jordan cop But a football cop it
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felt like Vince Young and the Rose Bowl Which
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is to say at no
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point in that game against USC on any
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of those late plays or any of those
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four downs Never ever did
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I think they are going to stop
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him? It was what fourth down
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and whatever I want to say from the 12
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yard line and I knew right then and there
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All right, they about to score like a touchdown
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is gonna be the end result here Nobody
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is ever supposed to look in
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the NFL Like
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Vince Young looked in college It's
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never ever ever ever ever Supposed
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to be that and I do think that that was
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what this was because one thing about Vince in that
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Rose Bowl game Vince in a Rose
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Bowl game was not like watching Michael Vick
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in that Sugar Bowl where it was just
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I can't believe what this Is that I'm
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saying, right? It was more about
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being really really effective and it was a lot
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of nickel and dime pass and it's like, okay
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If you're gonna shut this down, then I will
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get us every first down that we have to
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get in order to win this game Like that's
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what we got to do. Okay, cool
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Now, of course, it's a bit different because for
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the Chiefs of the 49 as they games 22
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wall Oh, what was it 19 all
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going into overtime? where it was a 40,
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what was it? 42
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to 38 or whatever it was in that Rose Bowl
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game, right? Like that game had a lot more points,
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but hey man, my man
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Till hit me with it. He was right. It
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was Jordan and just like, yo, we
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go into the block, we go into the post, every
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play, every play. We just gonna take that
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ball down to the block and let's see what you got
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for it. Can you do anything about that? And when you
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get a bike, the ball is blocked. You know what it's
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gonna be. Might go shoot that fade away. Ain't really nothing
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you can do about that fade away. All you can do
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is play very good defense. You play very good defense, I
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hope that it works out. That
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was where the 49ers work. That's where the 49ers had
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to do. Just hope that you play the best defense that
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you can and maybe Jordan will miss. Hey,
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Jordan had an interception. He has that one missed, but
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that's it, man. But I
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say that this game was like not good
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for the people in our business because I've
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been watching some television around this and
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you could tell they tried hard to
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find the compelling things to talk about
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and the full-cra,
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is it full-cra? I feel like it's
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full-cra. Full-chromes, whatever it is, full-cry. I
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feel like full-cra should be the answer.
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But anyway, just try to find that
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thing that you can use to turn
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this into a discussion about something else,
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perhaps a discussion about something larger. And
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Sean, I'm telling you, I've been trying.
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I ain't got it. Yeah, there's a
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lot of forced narratives this week and
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probably the week, I mean, the
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week before and now this week, it's just gonna be a
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lot of forced narratives about that
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49ers team. And I think the big story
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is their lack of understanding of the OT
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rules too. Yeah, yeah, no, but it's like,
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I did think that was interesting, that they
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apparently as players did not know what
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the overtime rules were. They didn't know how it
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went in this form of fashion. Like that does
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not look good for the 49ers. I will say
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that, that part does not look good. I would
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also like to point out that the dude from
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Harvard said that he ain't know the rules. And
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I gotta be honest, Sean, that's the first time
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I'd heard that use check dude talk before. And
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let's just say. He
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should tell people he went to Harvard all the
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time because I didn't never believe that shit otherwise.
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Would you have? No, literally I thought
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the same thing yesterday was the first time I heard
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him speak. And I was like,
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this guy doesn't, this guy went to Harvard? Yeah,
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yeah, I never would have known, man. Like I
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never would have had no idea that he went
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to Harvard. Though to be honest, I feel the
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exact same way about Ryan Fitzpatrick. They just told
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us he went to Harvard all the time. Maybe
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because he was a quarterback. We saw Ryan Fitzpatrick
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at the party the other night. It ain't feel
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like Harvard showed up in the spot. No, it
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felt like a community college. No
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offense to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
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didn't necessarily assume that. But yeah, all them casters
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just out there saying that they didn't know the
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rules. OK, I hear the people. I
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leave the impressions on that to the players. If
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players say that that is an indictment or
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damning, then I am inclined to believe that
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that is an indictment or that that is
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damning. Outside of
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the fact that I think that if I were Shanahan, I
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would have handed the ball off more, I
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don't have anything really necessarily bad
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to say about him. I don't
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feel like whatever is in dispute
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about Brock Purdy, like whatever there
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is for us to figure out about him, I
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don't feel like it was settled in that game, do you? I
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thought he was, I didn't think he was bad. He
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didn't do anything, I would say, to cost them anything.
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I will say that his size, I thought, proved
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to be an issue and that when he seemed
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to be the most affected is when the Chiefs
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just had a rush straight up the middle. And
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that's the thing about having a not very big
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quarterback, when that rush was up the middle, he
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didn't have nothing really that he could do. But
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this wasn't a, see, I told you he wasn't
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good, or a, see, that's one of the 10
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best players in the league type game. All right,
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am I tripping? No, the same
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narrative probably will continue for Brock Purdy.
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He's a slightly above
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average quarterback, the
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game manager thing, sure. But you're totally right
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on his physicality. And you see it on
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the other side with Mahomes, he was slightly
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bigger and was able to escape the pocket
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and make these runs for crew. moments
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of the game. Yeah I got into a fight
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with people on the internet the day before about
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Travis Kelce and it's wow cuz like
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I've tried to make the point that I think Travis
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Kelce is a Hall of Famer they want me to
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say he's definitively a Hall of Famer as if I
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get to decide that shit. Alright like
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that's what that's that's my issue with it
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is I'm not talking about whether he should
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or shouldn't get in. I'm just
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telling you I don't trust those people. I don't
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know what they're gonna do. I think he will get
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in but I don't trust those people. I said Julio
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Jones is probably a Hall of Famer. I think he'll
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get in but I don't trust those people. The thing
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I hold against both of those guys by the way
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is the low number does not pass us but neither
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here nor there. But I got into the bag of
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four for people about that. I said that Gronk was
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better than Travis Kelce and I'm sorry fellas I did
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not know that that was a controversial opinion. It blows
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my mind but my point was and this is important
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Gronk for the Patriots was
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not just the guy in the sense of he's
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the best receiver that we have. He's
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the guy like yo that big motherfucker
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will run past you and two other
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people right like what are we going
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to do about that guy as opposed
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to damn damn that guy goes again
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moving the chain. Like Gronk was just
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a different animal from anybody who has
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ever played that position as far as
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I can tell. He is number one
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you can have whatever discussion you want
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to have about number two. Travis Kelce
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moves those chains great to have. He's
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really really good at the things that
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he does but he ain't Gronk
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because no dude that plays that position is
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Gronk. And so what's happened over the course of
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time is like somebody said this in my mentions
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because that's what they want to do because I
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said that Travis Kelce was not a guy capital
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G capital U capital Y in the
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way that Gronk was a capital G
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capital U capital Y and a guy
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sends me something that says 113 catches
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for 1271 yards and 13 touchdowns
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at Travis Kelce's last 13 games.
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And the guy says that looks like
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the guy's that line the touchdowns do
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look very impressive. There's way around
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that. Otherwise, what you're talking
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about there is 11 yards of
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catch. You understand what I'm saying,
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right? Like it's 11 yards of
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catch. 11 yards of catch is
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not setting the world on fire. 11 yards
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of catch for me is not capital G,
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capital U, capital Y territory. And in this
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game, what did Travis Kelsey give you? Nine
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catches, 93 yards, right?
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And look, them nine catches matter. That big one
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at late, that 22 yard to get them to
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help get them to overtime. It mattered. But that's
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what I'm saying about him, at least in the
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way that I look at it, that guy to
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me is not the guy that you say is
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the greatest tight end of all time. But what
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you can say is he had tight end. They
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got three championships for the role that he plays
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for the team that he is on, right? It
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is possible to stop from saying that somebody
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is in a certain sphere of all time
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greatness without that being some sort of issue,
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without that being some sort of slight. But hey,
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Sean, I mean, you ain't that
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you remember this Gronk thing. That Gronk thing
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was just something different. No, you made it.
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You made such a good point. One of
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your tweets about how we
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never discussed how there was a lack of
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wide receiver one for that Patriots team with
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Gronk because Gronk was the guy where the
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entire conversation this year was, well, the Chiefs
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don't have a wide receiver one when it
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should have been Kelsey. Yeah. Like what are
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they going to do after Tyreek Hill leaves?
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And that included last year and Kelsey kind
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of stepped up on it. But you had
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that question cause Gronk, Gronk had 90 catches
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and 18 touchdowns in his age 22 season.
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His problem obviously was just the ability to
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stay healthy. Right. And it's wild because Gronk
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started so young and Kelsey has gone late.
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They're basically about the same age, but I
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think now it played the same number of
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seasons in the NFL. But either way it
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goes, I bring that up here because you
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didn't even wind up with like some off
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the charts. Travis Kelsey performance, my
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home so damn good that he folds to 333
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yards and runs for 66. And we're like, I
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just kind of felt like another day of the
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officer patching my homes. But Hey, I want to
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say a shout out to a very important dude.
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featherstone featherstone
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Actually, I remember the Chiefs got like two
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featherstones Hey, I bought my both featherstones kind
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of came through with it. Although featherstone number
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one Shaw you saw when he
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had the forward progress. He tried to lose the game running
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backwards. You remember that? I can't believe
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he redeemed himself It
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was like this literally the next play he had a
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cut I had to catch for like eight yards made
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these yards back but that forward progress I
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was like, this is probably it for the Chiefs after seeing that
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Yeah, I would have sent him to his room and made him
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think about what he did But uh,
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me Cole Harman who got another
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featherstone He got the Super
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Bowl winning catch and he had to 50-yard
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catch. Yeah former jet who would have thought
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yes, that's right That's right. He couldn't get
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on the field. So say a bad but
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hoes out here making it happen But the
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dudes the Jets don't want you
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think about that for a second the Jets like
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five Did the just the Jets drop that CeeLo
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green on him? You can have them god damn
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it if you want it to that bad We
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don't even need him right just pass them on
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down the line My home's like I'll make it
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work my home's the dude that when when
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featherstone dropped that pass earlier this year I was
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like, yeah, you know I could have thrown it
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a little bit shorter and then he would have
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caught it like he has figured that out This
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is what he has got to do like I
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had a situation Once on a project
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that I was working on and I felt
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like the person I was doing that with
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wasn't really bringing it And I was not
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handling it well and they came and told
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me to be nice and I just was
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like, come on, man Are you serious and
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they told me hey, I ain't never seen
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that dude be better, but I have seen
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you be nicer That's what they asked
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Patrick Mahomes to do all year long. That's
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what they hit him with. They just like hey, man. Look You
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know, he gonna be featherstone no
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matter what right? We can say the name on
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the jersey still gonna be featherstone in his soul
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You're gonna have to be the one to go
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out here and figure it out and he went
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out there and he figured it out, right? Also,
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shout out to that Chiefs defense because I mean
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this really was one of those where the defense
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is carried to Chiefs also hey man, you
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got to be a boss kicker when they let you get
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up on the stage after they won a Super Bowl Did
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you peep that? Insane. I don't
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know if that's ever happened outside of
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maybe Vinotary But I mean the
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dude went out there and did his
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thing He has now the longest field goal in the
16:16
Super Bowl record Hey, I feel like we need to
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send a shout out to that moody kid, man He
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had the longest field goal in a Super Bowl history
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for about what 15 20 minutes. Yeah, pretty much I
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got that that thank her completely around the
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other way Just that quick
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like just that quick that thing turned around.
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Oh, but yeah, that was it Like
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I just felt like it was a
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football game I just
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don't have anything like supremely
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defining supremely memorable There's like
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it didn't change my mind
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about anything and oh
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This what we could talk about Sean. Did
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you hear my man? Tony Romo
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he threw that Jordan out there like I
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feel like we the right time been ahead
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of the curve on this Jordan thing And
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people talk crazy to me about this But
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what more do you need to see before
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you recognize this man Jordan the comparisons are
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there? I'm just asking what what what is
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it that people are looking for and part
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of why I make this Jordan Comparison and
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this is important for people to understand where
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I'm coming from is I remember my dad
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By like 88 or 89 was
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like this is this is the greatest
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player I've ever seen you don't need
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to see Everything all the time like
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we've seen it like that dude So, you know
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that dude on Twitter that when the moleculars be
17:33
over he'll wait for every vote He ain't got
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to wait for every vote all the time. You
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know what I'm saying? Like 65% of the precincts
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are in I've seen enough. This is
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what it is, right? Well my hoes at
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this point, it's like they just closed the
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polls in California I know who's getting those
17:48
electoral votes and I know they
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I know I know which way that was going
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and who knows something could happen Pals get hurt.
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I don't know what it is. But
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what I've seen from him in this stretch
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to me And this is
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where I come from here, okay?
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Peak greatness matters more than anything
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else. Peak greatness. Longevity
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widely overrated to me. Peak greatness. When
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I'm talking about, in fact, longevity is
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overrated to me when I'm talking about
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who is like the greatest of all
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time. And when I think about
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what makes you the greatest of all time,
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it is you at your greatest. And if
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you have an ability to sustain that level
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of greatness, then I'm here to have the
18:26
discussion, okay? Mahomes being
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as great as he has
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been for six years, let
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alone his first six years as a
18:35
starter, but just six years in general
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is unreal, okay? This
18:39
starts with 5,000 yards and
18:41
50 touchdown passes. Like that's
18:44
where it begins. And then gradually getting
18:46
to this point, we're recognizing, you
18:48
know, I can't even really do it like that anymore.
18:50
We gotta go out here and we gotta run. We
18:52
gotta run a little more folk corners, right? We gotta
18:54
move that ball around a little bit more. We just
18:56
can't be out here playing like we was playing before.
19:00
And still getting it done, still getting
19:02
it done, right? A
19:04
loss in a Super Bowl and
19:06
two losses in overtime. Those
19:09
are the three losses that Patrick Mahomes
19:11
has had in the postseason. On the
19:13
other side, three Super Bowls with three
19:15
Super Bowl MVPs. And in all three
19:18
cases, definitely was the Super Bowl MVP.
19:21
He's Jordan, doing it and doing things unlike
19:23
anything that you have ever seen before. Doing
19:25
it in ways unlike anything that you have
19:28
ever seen before. And now doing it with
19:30
a bunch of dudes. Because the thing about
19:32
Jordan is this, you can say what you
19:35
want about that second three peeps, but the
19:37
argument that people make against him that is
19:39
not the worst in the world is look
19:41
at the competition that he faced in
19:44
the postseason deep into it and the competition
19:46
that he faced in the NBA Finals. And
19:48
how good those teams were or were not.
19:51
Fair point. Counterpoint.
19:54
He was out there on a team with the second best player
19:56
with Scottie Pippen. That's
19:58
right. said it, the
20:01
second best player was Scottie Pippen.
20:04
That's what Jordan was out here doing. Jordan's so
20:06
good Scottie Pippen in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
20:10
that's right. Jordan's so good,
20:12
Scottie Pippen is in the
20:14
Hall of Fame. That's
20:16
where he's at, okay? Mahal
20:20
is that guy. You look at
20:22
the receivers, post Tyreek
20:24
Hill in particular. He's
20:27
that dude, man. He's everything. I don't
20:31
I will he ever
20:33
amass the resume of
20:35
Tom Brady? I don't have
20:37
an answer for you on that because the
20:39
thing that's wild about Tom Brady is this.
20:41
I said this about like the Tiger Woods
20:43
comparison to Mahal or just think about Tiger
20:45
Woods, okay? When
20:48
we're talking about whether or not he would get to 18 majors,
20:51
what's so wild about getting to the 18 majors
20:54
is that Jack Nicklaus had to win the 18th. The
20:57
18th major was the 86 Masters
20:59
where he came back. He had won a major in
21:01
six years before that or whatever it is, but to
21:03
get to that one he had to pull one straight
21:05
out of his keister. Tiger
21:07
Woods, that last one that he won was
21:10
the one that he pulled straight out of
21:12
his keister. Tom
21:14
Brady went 10
21:16
seasons without winning a Super Bowl,
21:18
right? It's the 05 season
21:21
through the 13 seasons.
21:24
So that's nine seasons. That's nine straight seasons
21:26
that he had without a Super Bowl. And
21:28
what was stunning about that is that he
21:31
came back on the back end of that
21:33
and won how many more? 14,
21:38
16, 18, 20. Won four more on
21:40
the back end. That's nuts. Nuts,
21:44
okay? Like if Patrick Mahomes
21:46
was Tom Brady, he'd had these three at
21:48
this point in his career and could not
21:50
win nine more and that would still be
21:53
on the same pace as a Tom Brady.
21:56
You see what I'm saying? Like that's what's
21:58
so unreal about Brady is that all All
22:00
the ones that were won, they were in
22:02
such different ways from the first run through
22:04
the second run and what was asked of
22:06
him. And the strangest part, when
22:08
he was the best player that he was, which
22:10
was from that 05 to
22:13
13 stretch, that's the best Tom Brady. That's the
22:15
Tom Brady with the undefeated season. That's the Tom
22:17
Brady that without Randy Moss, I want to say
22:19
either had 37 touchdowns and four
22:21
interceptions or 39 touchdowns and four interceptions. I want
22:23
to say that was the 2010 year. But
22:26
that version of Tom Brady didn't win any. All
22:30
kinds of things could happen here in the evolution
22:33
of how this rolls where Mahomes goes. For
22:35
me, I'm not doing this just by checking
22:38
off accomplishments. I'm not using what's written down
22:40
on paper. I'm going to do a little
22:42
something called thinking for myself. And for me,
22:45
that guy is Jordan. That's
22:48
who that dude is. That is the best quarterback that I have
22:50
ever seen. That guy is Michael Jordan.
22:53
Period. So
22:59
Sean, I got to tell you a secret. I kind
23:01
of forgot how the show works. And
23:03
I had been stretching out that last segment feeling like
23:06
I needed to get his father and father and father
23:08
along, you know, and then
23:10
realize I looked at the clock. It was
23:12
like, shit, I could have wrapped that up
23:14
five, six, seven minutes ago. And we still
23:16
got the, you know, the halftime show to
23:18
talk about. We have. Yeah, yeah,
23:20
yeah, yeah. Yeah. But it was
23:22
great, but you pushed through. Yeah, I did. I
23:25
made my life a lot harder than it had to
23:27
be. I'm holding to people here a little longer. Like
23:29
I really looked up and was like, damn, I still
23:32
got Vegas brain, baby. Time is no object. Right. I'm
23:34
still there. Anyway, we
23:37
got the halftime show from your boy Usher.
23:39
And are you an Usher guy? Sean,
23:42
I wouldn't say I'm an Usher guy,
23:44
but I know that he
23:47
has hits. And I do know a lot
23:49
of his songs by word. Yeah. Usher for
23:52
me is interesting because I'm
23:54
of a very particular age. Usher
23:57
is around my age. Like
24:00
I went to college in Atlanta and Usher is
24:02
Atlanta ish like us right here I got like
24:04
he was the first dude to ever put off
24:06
for Atlanta and he need to sit his pointy-headed
24:09
ass down That is that they ain't that just
24:11
come on get out of here He he started
24:13
putting on the Atlanta after everybody else had long
24:15
been putting on Atlanta and then he showed up
24:17
like oh Yeah, y'all know what school you're right
24:19
chill out homie. He wrong about that. But anyway
24:24
So the thing about Usher that I kind of had
24:26
to shake was like I Went
24:29
to college with so many people who made up stories
24:31
about how Usher got beat up at a high school
24:33
one time because he showed Up to holla at the
24:35
girls and the dudes ran up on him and I
24:37
was 17 years old So I
24:39
wasn't sophisticated enough to recognize that all these
24:41
people were telling the same story Just at
24:44
a different school which meant that probably all
24:46
of them were lying But
24:48
we were of the age of those things not only
24:50
seeing plausible but all dancy ass motherfucker That would be
24:52
exactly the person that we would be talking about that
24:54
way You know, like I ain't never I ain't never
24:56
really been here for these old dance Yeah, it's my
24:59
fucking that ain't never been my speed. That's not this
25:01
is this is in the height of the hip-hop thing,
25:03
too Man, this is about hip-hop that don't nobody ever
25:05
talk about Hip-hop
25:08
completely How
25:11
did how did an entire genre
25:13
decide that singing made you whack?
25:16
We just decided anybody that was singing
25:18
was whack Singing
25:22
singing and dancing Dancing.
25:24
Nah, nah. Nah, we decided that all the y'all
25:26
was whack old singers. They was fine. Al green
25:29
in them That was cool. That wasn't so much
25:31
of an issue But any new dude that was
25:33
out here is still singing and dancing We was
25:35
really not like trying to hear that it's so
25:37
interesting for me now to see dudes who are
25:39
my age who talk about how They big usher
25:41
fans. I'm like where the hell were you in
25:44
1999? Cuz you sure wouldn't
25:46
say that out loud in the dorm. I walked
25:48
past not now one of y'all Playing no usher
25:50
tape in the room. Yeah, it's not only the
25:52
singing the dancing It's it's I feel like the
25:54
dancing with the headset, you
25:56
know that hip-hop was like not the old
25:58
Navy joint. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah,
26:00
nah man, like I just I'm just
26:02
saying like something changed there whatever but
26:04
you know saying I saw I
26:07
saw Usher that you know the show that he'd
26:09
been doing I saw him do that and I
26:12
Just don't take us seriously Right,
26:15
like I just I don't I don't I
26:17
don't I don't fight him to somebody that's
26:19
just me. He is not a person I
26:21
don't find him serious. I don't find his
26:24
music to be particularly serious and I think
26:26
we'd all agree about this He got a
26:28
lot of silly silly silly ass music. All
26:30
right, the the omg. That's a silly little
26:32
song What you call
26:34
it the good kisser love in the club
26:36
era Usher? That's a silly music man And
26:39
when he was doing them shows for the
26:41
residency He doing the whole show cuz ain't
26:43
nobody tell him like hey dog, you don't
26:45
have to do this no more You know what I'm saying?
26:47
We understood you were trying to figure out how to grow
26:50
up to stay young at the same time You ain't got
26:52
to do these songs no more You ain't got to break
26:54
them out in concert and that's why his Super Bowl set
26:56
was off the chain Cuz he ain't have time to play
26:58
all them silly songs in their totality He could only sing
27:00
out a little bit of it He was out there doing
27:02
a little dancing brought a couple people out people that to
27:05
be honest I like a little bit more than him. I
27:07
thought his set was great I think it was one of
27:09
the better sets in the last couple years. I the
27:12
internet has been loving germane Dupree showing
27:14
up Which in his
27:16
hilarious get up my homeboy. Yeah, that's
27:18
why he would dress like Shirley Temple
27:21
I Mean
27:23
he was he was I mean, but again, I don't
27:26
I ain't never had to look for clothes in them sizes
27:28
You know what I'm saying? So I don't really be judging
27:30
him y'all need to be glad his little ass they come
27:32
out there in a sailor suit Like
27:34
I don't know what I said. I don't know
27:36
what I don't know what else fits, right? But
27:39
yo, I'm gonna go take some pictures. What do
27:41
I wear? They bring out a sailor suit like
27:43
that, you know that that's got to wear it
27:45
is but now I got a loot out there
27:47
Luda who trust me Luda
27:49
been salty if he ain't get out there cuz
27:51
loot is like my career actually merits this just
27:54
as well As Urshas does but neither here nor
27:56
there Little John
27:58
came out there. That was The vowels was
28:00
up like out there for the bed.
28:03
Get it all young thousand was up.
28:05
Her came out there playing a guitar.
28:07
Somebody on the show may or may
28:09
not have said see was out here
28:12
look alike. Press would die guitar will
28:14
keep his name save for the audience.
28:16
On.c. We. Will keep his name under
28:18
see That is where we will keep
28:20
his name. It's and.r C W look
28:23
like France I was like Abbey and
28:25
her Abby I I didn't know was
28:27
are here was what was hurt was
28:29
harper thousand like that you don't have
28:31
there been any way. Thought. Oh
28:33
she was good. However,
28:36
Was. Found. Somebody
28:38
said at least gays get ahead
28:40
all his money Saw us are
28:42
very funny tweet about Isis Annalisa
28:44
geeze and I can't tell you
28:46
what it was over the air
28:49
but I'm going to send it
28:51
to you and I think that
28:53
it will make you laugh a
28:55
lot. Ah, I'm Lindsay I'll
28:57
try to keep my my golf not to
28:59
disrupt the show. Ah yeah no no no
29:01
no no I was you to keep the
29:03
my gone. When you see a good sometimes
29:06
by I need you'd I need you to
29:08
be able to share? Ah,
29:10
What the forty years? With what I've
29:13
share And here or here it is,
29:15
my bed confined to force. The.
29:17
Air is is is that is just a
29:19
little bit too too far for me to
29:21
say myself, but I is. You become A
29:24
to you right now. I'm.
29:26
But anyway, Adding
29:29
ostrogoths has minimum sentences
29:32
of a pretty funny
29:34
what it. Is
29:37
buddy. I won't like or retreated but
29:39
I'm laughing my and. As
29:43
Brady Buddy. Ah. So.
29:46
I don't know if you guys remember this. But
29:49
in the year twenty thirty. Kind.
29:52
Yea was put. Now the
29:54
uses Apple right? And.
29:57
there was a lot promotion around the
29:59
easy album no
30:02
need for us to litigate the quality of the
30:04
Yeezus album but Yeezus album was coming
30:06
out all right and
30:09
this is after Watch the Throne and
30:11
I feel like it's kind of around
30:13
the time we're not really sure what
30:15
the relationship is with Kanye and Jay
30:18
Z but one thing we know about
30:20
Jay Z is when is
30:22
it ever not all about Jay Z right so
30:25
anyway it is a Sunday
30:28
I want to say that
30:31
Sunday is before game five
30:33
of the NBA Finals between
30:35
the Heat and the Spurs
30:38
it's a Sunday and that Yeezus
30:40
is coming out on Tuesday because that's
30:43
back when records still came out on
30:45
Tuesday okay that Yeezus is set to
30:47
come out on Tuesday the biggest thing
30:49
going in music Yeezus is coming out
30:51
on Tuesday and we watching the
30:53
game and what do we see a
30:56
Samsung commercial for Magna
30:58
Carta Holy Grail the
31:01
new Jay Z album that
31:04
wasn't even good but the new Jay
31:06
Z album and suddenly all
31:09
the discussion is
31:12
about Jay Z putting out a new tape Kanye
31:14
we thought was his man we thought the name
31:16
was cool all
31:19
about that right so
31:22
fast forward to this Super Bowl your
31:25
man Ursh get up there does
31:27
an excellent halftime show he was on
31:30
fire everybody thought he was on fire
31:32
again even somebody like me who finds
31:34
him to be silly and pointy-headed thought
31:36
that he was on fire right he
31:39
was out there doing the thing and
31:41
then after you get off stage it's
31:44
a Verizon commercial and
31:47
it's Beyonce in the Verizon
31:49
commercial and it's Beyonce talking
31:51
about breaking the internet and
31:54
then gets to the end and says well
31:57
fine guess we gotta drop that
31:59
new music on And
32:01
people went from looking up them usher tickets to
32:04
going to see where this new Beyonce
32:06
music is Just
32:08
like that the discussion went
32:10
away from talking about usher to
32:13
talk about Beyonce got new music out It
32:15
had the audacity to make it country music
32:19
If I'm usher I'm calling Jay
32:21
Z like dog. Y'all don't care about nobody do
32:23
y'all y'all y'all couldn't
32:25
let me have the night
32:29
The night y'all couldn't let me have
32:31
the night and this would make it
32:33
even worse Let
32:36
me tell you who don't need no Super Bowl to
32:38
pump up a new tape coming out Beyonce
32:41
Beyonce don't need none of this
32:43
to make none of this happen.
32:45
It is completely unnecessary She
32:48
could have lived us a half a couple of
32:50
days and they could have done something Beyonce
32:53
put that put that lemonade thing on HBO and
32:56
all they told us that Beyonce gonna be on
32:58
now ten years ago Beyonce gonna be
33:00
on that's all we knew Beyonce gonna be on and
33:03
we showed up for what it was
33:05
What not it would not now better
33:07
that necessary. I'll be like Beyonce is
33:10
such a benevolent queen Nah, man, Beyonce
33:12
is married to Jay Z the
33:14
Jay Z by the way, that books the Super
33:16
Bowl halftime show That's all I'm saying. He knew
33:19
it He knew they could have had us
33:21
to let him they could have let us they
33:23
had that moment He could have let his own
33:25
clients have that moment instead.
33:27
Boom Beyonce dropped him
33:29
tape Hey, and and my question is
33:32
Sean was in attempt by Beyonce in
33:34
part to one up Taylor
33:36
Swift a little bit, you know, it's funny because they
33:39
had both gone to each other's movies and
33:41
concerts and they made it a big thing
33:43
of like Beyonce and Taylor Swift hanging out,
33:45
but I Mean the signs
33:47
are there if Beyonce is gonna put out a
33:49
country record. I mean the only thing that's left
33:52
now Time for Kim
33:54
Kardashian to put a naked picture on the internet
33:56
ain't that normally how this work? All right in
34:00
normally how this battle back
34:02
and forth goes under these
34:04
circumstances well yeah yeah now a game
34:06
was Pete as for the songs
34:08
themselves they are interesting to me like I don't
34:10
need to go over the top in one direction
34:13
or another and I'm very clear about this I
34:15
don't listen to that much country music I'm big
34:17
into my man Waylon Jennings I'm into my man
34:19
Sturgill I ain't really got that much boy for
34:21
you I got a couple Willie Nelson records at
34:24
the house but I don't really know like this
34:26
is not where my background is the grapes however
34:29
I will say this and this is
34:31
just me personal taste I
34:33
like the way the Raphael Sadiq
34:35
songs sound I tend to
34:37
like the way that his songs feel I
34:40
don't typically like him that much as a
34:42
lyricist I find him to be
34:45
a little too on the nose
34:47
at points girl give me all
34:49
your loving girl I'll do all the rubbing you
34:52
know what I mean like I just I find
34:54
him to be a very on the nose sort
34:56
of songwriter that's just not it's not necessarily my
34:58
speed number two I
35:00
don't like and this is just again
35:02
my own personal taste I
35:05
do not really enjoy listening
35:08
to people sing vulgarities
35:12
I don't mind hearing people say them I don't
35:15
mind hearing people wrap them
35:17
I don't really enjoy hearing
35:19
people sing cuss words I
35:22
just don't I just don't really dig that Beyonce
35:25
does that a lot like that's been one
35:27
of my criticisms of the last like three
35:29
or four of the Beyonce albums is like
35:31
that eight-shit song bang but I don't want
35:33
to that's not what I that's not what
35:36
I want to hear from her that's me
35:38
personally I don't want to hear that from
35:40
her it's kind of like how when vibrant
35:42
thing came out from Q-tip it was banging
35:44
but that was not really what we wanted
35:46
to hear from Q-tip right
35:51
but anyway the the country song that
35:53
she's putting out and look if she's putting out a
35:55
country album I am very interested in hearing it like
35:57
what I have hoped to get from her is
36:00
interesting stuff, right? Like I don't need big,
36:02
I don't need outsized. I want to hear
36:05
interesting music from her. I would much rather
36:07
hear her do something
36:09
like Nas is done with that hip boy dude,
36:11
where, okay, I got me a producer I'm working
36:14
with, I don't have to get an army of
36:16
people to work on every track. I'm just gonna
36:18
go with this one person, and
36:20
we gonna go over and like intimately
36:22
create a bunch of music. Like
36:25
I would like to hear that from her more
36:28
than I would like to hear her take
36:30
this off to like a whole nother stratosphere
36:33
and keep making it bigger and bigger and
36:35
bigger and more epic. To me, that's where
36:37
Michael Jackson went wrong, is he just kept
36:39
going and kept getting more epic. And then
36:41
it became like harder to feel. Beyonce, much
36:43
to her credit though, as the stuff has
36:45
gotten more epic, has also made it still
36:48
feel really intimate. Like that's a really tough
36:50
game to play, but she's managed to pull
36:52
that off. But if she
36:54
make a country record, I'll be interested in to hear
36:56
it. I just wanna see who she work on
36:58
with it. Cause to be honest, if you do
37:00
a whole country album with Raphael Sadiq, one
37:03
might call that cultural
37:06
appropriation. But
37:08
I've gone through the credits. She
37:10
seemed to have like some legit folk,
37:12
like people who make country music who are on
37:14
there. So if that's what she wants to do,
37:17
I wanna see it. I appreciate her being willing
37:19
to take the chance of making the country music
37:21
in the first place. I'll be curious if she
37:23
takes some chances within the country. I would also
37:25
love if I found out that somehow they put
37:28
a call in and my man Sturgill worked on
37:30
it. I seen like something that he might be
37:32
trying down to pull off. Somebody said they want
37:34
a Dolly Parton collab, but not unless you put
37:37
in Dolly Parton in a time machine. Like
37:40
honestly, a Dolly Parton collaboration,
37:43
if it's not Dolly Parton writing the song and
37:45
Beyonce singing it, I'm not really interested in that.
37:47
Cause I feel like that would be, like that's
37:49
what you do to get the song sold in
37:51
Target. Like that would feel a level of schmaltzy
37:53
to me personally, that I wouldn't want to get
37:55
down on. But here
37:58
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38:01
about Beyonce. And don't you think
38:03
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Show me where Usher got man in the
40:50
goddamn mirror. Show me
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what Usher saw that sound like man in
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the mirror. When I was,
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look, I ain't know what a dude was
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putting on the Usher capes, all right?
41:03
I'ma just say that right now. Like you, I
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mean, and you know what, it may be that
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ain't a dude. Maybe I'm wrong here. Okay, okay.
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Got it, got it. Got it, dude, that
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Bomani is having the epiphany that he and Usher
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are the same age and Bomani can't do any
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of those moves. I could never do any of
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those moves. What are you talking about? You
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think it took till 2024 for me
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to be like, damn, I can't dance
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like Usher. If I, I'ma be honest
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with y'all, I could dance
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like Usher. I don't know who that woman is at your
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house, but she wouldn't be. Let's
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move on. All right, Bo, our
41:36
first story on, if you haven't heard today, is
41:38
on the diamond industry. My name is Amanda Mull,
41:40
and I'm a staff writer at The Atlantic. I'm
41:43
here to tell you about my new story, diamonds are
41:46
too perfect for their own good. If you've
41:48
been in the market for any jewelry in the past like
41:50
five or so years, and especially an engagement
41:52
ring, you've probably been offered
41:54
lab diamonds, and they probably seemed a little
41:56
bit too good to be true. Lab
41:59
diamonds are... everywhere now. According to one estimate,
42:01
as much as 40% of the engagement rings
42:03
sold in the US last year held lab
42:05
stones, which represents like a really, really
42:07
huge shift in the traditional diamond business.
42:10
These stones like basically didn't exist on the
42:13
market at all as recently as like 15
42:15
years ago. And lab diamonds are real diamonds,
42:17
chemically and physically, they're identical to
42:19
their mind counterparts. A jeweler
42:21
can't look into his loop and tell whether
42:24
your diamond came out of a mine or out of
42:26
a lab. But they speed up that process to like
42:28
a matter of weeks or months. And they do it
42:31
in a factory instead of deep within the earth. That
42:34
means a lot of different manufacturers have been
42:36
able to flood the market with these types
42:38
of stones in all shapes and sizes in
42:40
the past few years. As a result, diamonds
42:43
long a market managed by a price
42:45
fixing cartel called the De Beers Corporation
42:48
are no longer even plausibly rare. They
42:50
were never really rare, but like not
42:52
even plausibly anymore. They're everywhere and they're
42:55
not very expensive. Thanks to oversupply, the
42:57
wholesale price of lab diamonds has crashed
42:59
even just in a few years. An
43:02
average one carat stone cost more than $1,700 in 2018. And it would
43:04
go for a little over $160 today. That's
43:10
like more than 90% of its value gone.
43:12
Lots of people have predicted that lab diamonds
43:14
are the end of the traditional diamond industry
43:16
as we know it. And I can see
43:18
why they think that if a diamond engagement ring
43:20
is a public avatar for a couple social status,
43:22
then they'll always want one that's a little bit
43:24
bigger and brighter than their lot in life might
43:27
really afford them. If anyone can
43:29
have a huge diamond, then it no
43:31
longer has any power. Why pay more for a mined
43:33
version of the same thing if not even a jeweler
43:35
with a loop can tell the difference. But
43:37
I think that prediction is wrong. I think lab diamonds
43:40
will end up a boon to the jewelry industry overall.
43:42
Less expensive lab diamonds will attract younger
43:45
lower income people to find jewelry and
43:47
induce demand for more of it, getting
43:49
more people into the habit of buying gemstones. As
43:52
those buyers become more prosperous, they'll go looking
43:54
for things that are considered fancier and rarer,
43:57
leading them directly to the mined diamonds these
43:59
products claim. to undercut. And
44:01
I think she is correct. Because in
44:03
the end, the point is
44:06
not simply to have an attractive
44:08
diamond. The point is to have
44:10
a diamond that look like it
44:12
costs a lot of money.
44:16
And when the diamonds don't look like that, the
44:18
purpose has been defeated. Sean, you about to say
44:20
something? Yes, I was. I remember you commented. I
44:22
got engaged in November. Okay, cool. We can tell
44:24
that story. We can tell that story. I'm gonna
44:26
go ahead and do it. Okay. Congratulations,
44:29
by the way, again to Sean. Sean
44:31
has gotten engaged. I met his lovely
44:33
fiance, Christine, right? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. There we
44:35
go. And so I looked at the
44:37
picture that Sean put up. And let
44:39
me tell you something, boy, that rock
44:42
was powerful. That rock was hitting it.
44:44
I had to ask Sean. I was like, yo,
44:46
what way are you paying in these streets, baby?
44:48
I ain't never wearing nowhere where no producer could
44:50
get his woman no rock like that. I ain't
44:53
no, you know, maybe I got money in the
44:55
old country. I had no idea where that paper
44:57
was coming from. And then Sean
44:59
told me it was a lab diamond. And
45:01
I was like, good for you that you
45:03
got a woman that was good with that.
45:05
Yeah, she told me exactly what she wanted.
45:07
She says, I don't want any blood on
45:09
my diamond. And, uh, you know, for me,
45:12
the price being what it was, I
45:14
was like, yeah, I'll get you
45:16
a lab diamond. Say less. Yo,
45:18
we need more of her because
45:20
I don't know if it's going to be
45:23
a little different with these zoomers and these
45:25
millennials. I have no idea, but I'm here
45:27
to tell you all them principles about the
45:30
blood diamonds and everything else. They
45:32
go out the window when it's about her
45:34
getting that diamond. Like I remember that time
45:36
I was in the, I think I'm a
45:38
buy a diamond, uh, whatever. And I made
45:40
the point about the lab diamonds and said,
45:43
maybe that was the way to go as
45:45
opposed to the, let's be honest, ones that
45:47
cost more money. And, uh, let me tell
45:49
you something. It wasn't all
45:51
just about cut color and clarity. No more.
45:54
No, sir. Reebok. They want to feel
45:56
like you don't feel some pain to
45:59
get that diamond. Not all of them,
46:01
but some of them. It's a lot of
46:03
them. If you ain't, the point is
46:06
to look like you spent a lot of
46:08
money. And so they gonna have to figure
46:10
out ways to make it look like you
46:12
spent a lot of money. This is in
46:14
line with what we was talking about last
46:16
week about this society. If the diamond no
46:19
longer looks like you spent a lot of
46:21
money, then they gonna find some way on
46:23
top of that diamond to make it look
46:25
like you spent a lot of money. That
46:28
being said, I know this
46:30
next part may make me seem like a hypocrite, but
46:34
boy Robert Griffin showed up at the party and
46:37
he showed up with his wife. It was very
46:39
nice to meet her. She seemed like a very
46:41
lovely lady. And I looked at that ring. She
46:43
had boy, man, them diamonds was crip walking in
46:45
the light. God damn, I could not
46:47
believe that. In every day something, that thing
46:49
right there came out of the lab. Everybody
46:51
needs to go get that because that thing
46:53
was out here. I love it. It was
46:55
moving boy. I could not believe what it
46:57
was doing. It was popping and locking. It
47:00
was making all kinds of moves. Good gracious.
47:03
And that room was dark. It was super
47:05
dark. And I thought the same thing. I
47:07
was like, that's all I'm seeing right now. Yes.
47:10
Yes. But I'm gonna tell you this right now.
47:13
If what they saying is, and I didn't really notice
47:15
before, what
47:17
Amanda said was that they
47:19
can't even put on the loop, the eye
47:22
joint. If the loop can't
47:24
tell the lab diamond, hey man, don't want
47:27
to answer what she asked where you got it from. She's
47:29
gonna need to go get it insured. Let her
47:31
go work all that stuff out on her
47:33
own and let her expose herself. Why you gotta
47:36
spend a lot of money, greedy ass? Moving on.
47:38
All right, Bo, our next one is how it's
47:41
tough to be a sellout in this industry. Hi,
47:43
my name is Rebecca Jennings and I'm a senior
47:45
correspondent at Vox covering internet culture. I
47:48
recently wrote about the labor of self promotion and
47:50
the imperative that if you want to be any
47:52
kind of artist or author, you've got to devote
47:54
a serious amount of time to building an online
47:56
platform. Essentially, we're all sellouts
47:59
now. But what this piece
48:01
is really about is the tension between big
48:03
tech, which claims it's democratizing culture by making
48:05
it so that theoretically anyone can get their
48:07
work seen and anyone can go viral, and
48:10
the model of the culture industry that existed
48:12
in the second half of the 20th century,
48:14
where artists were siloed from the business side
48:16
of things by publishing houses and record companies.
48:19
That model is still alive to an extent,
48:21
but the burden of marketing is now almost
48:24
entirely on individual artists. And the
48:26
ones who end up succeeding aren't necessarily the best,
48:28
but the ones who are really skilled at marketing
48:30
themselves, sometimes at the expense of
48:32
their art. When musician I talked to Ricky
48:34
Montgomery told me of the experience of building
48:36
his TikTok following, you're becoming a great marketer
48:38
for a product which is less and less
48:40
good. Music or film or
48:42
fiction has never been a meritocracy and it's
48:44
always been pretty difficult to make living off
48:46
of doing it. The difference is that before
48:49
at least some people were getting rich off
48:51
their art in the form of royalties and sales.
48:53
That's all been decimated by big tech, whereas
48:56
left artists is on a hamster wheel of
48:58
constantly posting online in the hopes that someone
49:00
will care. And even if you
49:02
do win the virality jackpot, you're kind of stuck on
49:05
the stride forever. Thanks for reading. I just
49:07
want to throw this out here. Marketing and
49:09
selling out? Not the same thing. Selling
49:11
out? Always bad. Always
49:15
bad. Period. Not a good thing.
49:18
We all got stabbed for something out here in this world.
49:20
And I feel like if you, like, and Sean, I think
49:22
we talked about this the other day, how I feel about
49:24
people who call when they do content. Right?
49:28
Ain't no art in it whatsoever. Right? There's nothing there.
49:30
You don't think it was your work or anything like
49:32
that. It's just content. It's just shit to throw up
49:34
on the Internet. And I do think that's what a
49:36
lot of people just think this is. Find something that
49:39
trips over in the algorithm and then go from there.
49:41
But there is nothing wrong and there never has been
49:43
anything wrong with marketing your work. But if you make
49:45
your work only
49:47
for the fact that it'll sell, and that's the
49:49
only part that you care about, you're
49:52
a buster. That's crazy seeing how many
49:54
people just make content for the sake
49:56
of making content, like Rebecca said, of
49:58
the hope to go viral. Whereas I
50:01
think we think the same way is like
50:03
make the good thing and if it goes
50:05
viral great But you're making something that you
50:07
love and you're passionate about right now. Come
50:09
on man somebody something's got to matter, right?
50:11
All right, well we can move on the
50:13
next if you haven't heard
50:15
story is about YouTube and the streaming wars.
50:17
Hi I am Peter Kofka. I'm the chief
50:19
correspondent at Business Insider It's day I wanted
50:21
to talk to you about YouTube and
50:24
how in addition to being the world's largest video
50:26
site is now one of the biggest Cable TV
50:28
companies in the US that's because
50:30
YouTube has something called YouTube TV Cost
50:32
about 70 bucks a month and it delivers all
50:35
the things you used to get from cable TV
50:37
Now it has more than 8 million subscribers For
50:41
context Comcast and charter the two biggest
50:43
pay TV companies. They've got about 14
50:45
million subscribers each Direct TV
50:47
has 11 million, but those
50:49
companies are all losing subscribers and YouTube
50:52
TV is growing So that's
50:54
interesting But more interesting to me is the road
50:56
YouTube took getting here because for a long time
50:58
YouTube and Google which owns YouTube Wanted
51:01
to take over traditional TV, but they didn't want
51:03
to be a traditional TV company so they tried
51:05
all kinds of ways to break
51:07
into TV with while being a
51:09
smart tech company instead of a slow outdated
51:11
TV company they Tried selling ads they tried
51:13
building software to run TV sets They spent
51:16
money trying to get people to make their
51:18
own TV style shows for YouTube None
51:20
of that worked so in 2017
51:23
YouTube started selling bundles of TV channels
51:25
just like Comcast and charter and everyone
51:28
else and They must think
51:30
it's working because they keep spending more money on
51:32
it last year They got the rights
51:34
to the NFL Sunday ticket package. That's something that
51:36
had looked at years earlier and passed on So
51:39
they seem committed to this stuff Regular YouTube by
51:41
the way is still very much a thing Last
51:44
quarter the company sold more than nine billion
51:46
dollars of ads for regular YouTube But
51:49
people still watch and pay for regular
51:51
TV. So YouTube has decided to meet
51:53
them where they are Okay,
51:55
you can read that whole article on Business Insider.
51:58
Thanks boy, Sean one my
52:00
favorite things to hear people talk about is how
52:02
they a tech company. Everybody's
52:05
a tech company. When's the last time you heard
52:07
about a new company that wasn't the tech company?
52:10
Everything. Oh, we're not a TV company. That's dot
52:12
dot dot. We're a tech company. Nobody can even
52:14
tell me what that means anymore. Right? Now, not
52:16
that YouTube isn't a tech company. It obviously makes
52:18
sense that it would be a tech company. I
52:20
just laugh every time I hear that. I'm like,
52:22
yep, everybody is a tech
52:24
company. There's somebody right now who just bought
52:27
a dump truck talking about, I got a
52:29
tech company. I had to describe this company,
52:31
wave sports the first couple of years as
52:33
a tech company and we don't
52:35
do any tech. I got news for you. Nobody
52:38
ever told me the words. This is a tech
52:40
company and I knew good and damn well, this
52:42
was a tech company. Let
52:44
me tell you something. Any company with a name like
52:46
wave, they a tech
52:48
company and every meeting they go in. I'm
52:50
sorry fellas. I hope I'm not giving the
52:52
game away to any of my bosses who
52:54
matter, but come on now, everybody a tech
52:56
company. Everybody a tech company, just like
52:58
every press conference when a new coach comes in. Oh
53:01
yeah, we're going to be multiple. We're going to be
53:03
multiple. All
53:09
right, both today's voicemail was about the
53:11
game is cheating. A lot
53:13
of video game. The
53:17
game cheat. There's no is. Sorry.
53:20
Game cheat. Game cheat. It's cool. It's cool.
53:22
I understand. I understand. It's not your fault.
53:24
I just wanted to clarify the game cheat.
53:27
All right. Here's the first one on Kobe
53:29
and NBA 2K. Hey, both. This is Isaac.
53:32
So I got a story for the time
53:34
where the game was cheating me the
53:37
worst. So, okay. This is like, I
53:39
want to say early 2000s. I'm
53:43
playing NBA 2K with my nephew
53:45
and there's about a seven
53:47
year age gap between us. And up
53:50
until this point, you know, I
53:52
was the better one at video games. You know,
53:54
I pretty much dominated all
53:56
the video games because I was like a teenager
53:58
when he was like a kid. growing up. So,
54:00
uh, cut to
54:02
this point, I'm like early twenties. He's a
54:04
teenager now. We're playing 2K
54:07
and this is the one with, uh, Kobe
54:09
on the front. So of course
54:11
in the game, you know, Kobe is
54:13
the highest rated player, you know, he
54:16
has all the good stats. So my nephew,
54:18
he picks the Lakers, he has Kobe, I'm
54:21
playing against them. And you
54:23
know, every time Kobe comes down, he's
54:25
just like making everything. He's, you know,
54:28
dunking on everybody. He's hitting every shot
54:30
and it's getting kind of ridiculous. So, uh, fast
54:34
forward to like the end of the game. Um, he's
54:37
just racking up points. I think he has like, you
54:39
know, 60 or 70 in the third quarter and he
54:41
starts to brag like, Oh yeah, I'm going to score
54:43
100. And I'm like, there's no way he's
54:45
going to 100 on me. So, you know,
54:48
I'm throwing everything out on every defense,
54:50
double teaming doesn't make a
54:52
difference. Kobe is going on every time
54:54
down the floor. So we get
54:56
to the end of the game. He ends
54:59
up getting, getting a couple of shots, getting up
55:01
to like 98 points.
55:04
And you know, I'm just like
55:06
shaking my head in disbelief. Like I can't believe
55:08
that I'm about to let, you
55:10
know, my nephew who I'm like better
55:12
at video games than score 100 points
55:15
for me in the basketball game. And
55:17
so he's getting ready, like the hip, the shot
55:20
to go up and you know, score 100 points.
55:22
And I just get up and
55:24
turn off the game, drop
55:26
the controls. I'm like, no, I'm not letting
55:28
this happen. So like, I don't care what
55:30
happens. This game is cheating. I'm
55:32
not playing it no more. I just
55:35
cut the game off. And the
55:37
sad thing is ever since then, he's pretty much been
55:39
better at video games than me. But yeah, that one
55:41
time the game was really cheating and I had to
55:43
turn it off. All right,
55:45
thanks for that. Well, listen to keep
55:48
up the good work. You didn't have to
55:50
turn it off. You got Wow.
55:52
You got up and turn as a grown
55:54
man. You got up and turned it off.
55:57
Oh, no, you wack. You wack.
56:00
I was hoping to sympathize with you.
56:02
I can't you wag you wag I
56:04
hope that young man beat the brakes
56:06
off you every time y'all play you
56:08
already scored 98. What's an
56:10
extra two points there? There you know
56:12
it got drawn a lot somewhere though now
56:14
that part I do understand right right got
56:16
it Got a job a lot somewhere all
56:18
right, but we got another game cheating story
56:20
on Madden. Hey, but money. It's Alan from
56:23
Houston I had a great video game cheating
56:25
story Remember back in
56:27
the day they used to have the NCAA
56:29
football game And
56:32
I would always create myself as a player
56:34
and making myself a six
56:36
foot five quarterback with a 95
56:39
speed and like a 99
56:41
arm and the most athletic freak of nature Thinking
56:44
like Donna McNabb meet Michael Vick
56:46
meets Camarino all the one thing
56:49
That's what I created myself as a what
56:52
you could do is later export yourself to
56:55
Madden once you graduated and
56:57
my best friend Wilbert saw
56:59
that I made myself a 99 to
57:02
80 quarterback and Without me
57:04
noticing decided to change my
57:07
health attribute to zero and
57:10
then halfway through my rookie season on Madden
57:12
I Broke
57:14
my hip the Bo Jackson injury in
57:16
my career was over with I've
57:18
matted And that was how my
57:20
friend got back at me for cheating so
57:24
great story Love
57:26
what you guys do and Thanks
57:29
a lot. You broke your hip
57:32
Did I hear that? Yeah, I didn't
57:34
even know they did those injuries in
57:36
Madden. He broke his hip Wow
57:42
Wow Wow
57:49
Wow damn, yeah, let's get that
57:51
next one damn able money man
57:53
this Burley Time
57:58
to game is T go I was
58:00
in a Madden league, man, and we were playing with
58:03
each other online. I said, it's funny, sir. Get
58:05
to the championship game, bro. The
58:08
dude that I'm supposed to play against, he can't play, so
58:10
I gotta play against the computer. If you don't know, I'm
58:12
back. At the time, this was cheap.
58:14
This was about 10 years ago, 10, 15 years
58:16
ago. It was the
58:18
Patriots, you know, that I'm playing against the Patriots. That
58:21
automatically right there, I'll let you know the game's on
58:23
cheap. All right. We get down, I'm
58:25
down by, you know, like three, four, you
58:27
know, trying to drive to win the last
58:29
minute game. So, bro, I called
58:31
a spike ball. Spike ball. You
58:34
know, you're home circle, so you can spike the
58:36
ball, you know, better using the timeout. You
58:38
know, tell me why I spiked the ball. Vince
58:42
Wilford, big six foot 12,
58:44
493,000 pounds. Vince
58:47
Winford, I'd be saying
58:49
that, Wilford. Bro, tell me
58:52
why this man doe and intercepted
58:54
my spike, bro. I'm
58:56
driving, trying to win the game. Vince
58:59
Wilford doe and
59:02
intercepted the spike pass, dog.
59:05
How? Bro, money, tell
59:07
me how, bro. When
59:09
I can tell you I had to buy another controller, man.
59:12
Yeah, I had to jump on Craigslist
59:14
buying this controller. Peace, bro. This man
59:17
is my kind of man. And I say that
59:19
because the mother cats sound like they had made
59:21
peace with what had happened in that story. Not
59:23
this guy. No,
59:26
sir, rebob. He had made zero peace
59:28
with this. He still feels the pain
59:30
of what is taking place. Still feels
59:32
the pain of that. And I feel
59:35
the pain for you, too. Vince Wilford,
59:37
damn, dog. That's rough. That's rough.
59:40
Your pain is felt. But
59:42
hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for
59:44
joining us here on the right time, away
59:47
sports and entertainment original presented by Prize Pick.
59:49
Speaking of Prize Pick, Sean. You
59:51
got picks for the people. I do. Now we're
59:53
deep into the NBA season. So I'm going to
59:55
take Kyrie Irving, 21 and 1.5 points. I'll
59:58
take more there. Victor Wenceslas. Bimyama 36 and
1:00:01
a half points rebounds and assists. I'll take
1:00:03
more there and Brandon Miller three and a
1:00:06
half rebounds I'll take more there. All right
1:00:08
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