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7 PM in Brooklyn. This is the
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second half of 7 PM
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is the right time. See,
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see? All right. You know
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who's with me? Ken Merrow on this side. That's
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your boy. Carmelo Anthony on the other side. Peace.
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All right, so you can check the first half
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We're going to get to rolling here. I got
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these guys here. And on our show, we don't
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talk about these things as much. So I figure
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playoffs are coming up, right? Regular season is now
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just ended. So the Knicks, fellas, it's
1:02
going on. It's going on. Like this is
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the first time in my life I've
1:07
seen a Knicks fan look this genuinely happy.
1:11
It's genuinely happy. You clocked that shit. I
1:13
said, hey, hold on a second. Let me
1:15
get situated. I'm getting ready to talk my
1:17
shit real quick one time. For the one
1:19
time. Hey, look, bro, you
1:21
said it, bro. For the longest time, as
1:23
Knicks fans, we've been, I don't
1:28
want to say delusional, Because that's foul. You know what
1:30
I mean? Because like we just talked about on the
1:33
first half, everybody in the NBA
1:35
is talented. You know what I'm saying? So it's like,
1:37
but it's just about putting the team
1:39
together. And the Knicks finally have the right
1:41
people together. It's not about who's the nicest
1:43
or who's this or who's that, even though
1:45
Chandler Bresser has been getting downplayed all year. You know
1:48
what I'm saying? You can't help yourself. You just can't
1:50
help it. Just say it. You know what I'm saying?
1:52
But they got the right pieces. And we talked about
1:54
that shit with the Clippers on 7
1:56
PM. Like You can have the nicest guys
1:59
if they don't J- Though. He. Never
2:01
mean is that will work And the knicks a
2:03
jelen. If. They got the next man
2:05
up situation going. A lot of say feel
2:07
of due to some I think is going
2:09
up subdued on tabs on sits atop several
2:11
that everybody. Was
2:13
widely metal fan of the matter what He
2:15
added all of a lot of an order
2:17
from the Rafters episode trade. It
2:20
all makes sense as bad but but
2:22
but the table quick a larger your
2:24
of say every record low elo slides
2:26
and gonna blame israel they look as.
2:29
Good. Team is looking Salad and best best
2:31
lot. As a mix that on let's
2:33
not say fields and on my we are he
2:35
weird weird a dangerous and though nobody want to
2:38
see them as in a post and I'm saying
2:40
we are you I'll go the love expats since
2:42
I got here right the with you know live
2:44
here bay and also I guess is different too
2:47
because when I was growing up the knicks were
2:49
good right? Linux words into the fall of our
2:51
through for a good as the bulls like root
2:53
for my. Hair. But it was room
2:55
for migrates like I like the way to
2:57
next guy Dallas. I remembered as Fight at
2:59
All as Cargo Stadium and Ninety Two A
3:02
Love that day. Like you know my brother
3:04
was big suing fags they would yourself and
3:06
so like Iraq would addicts and I didn't
3:08
realize or a heartbreak that was his movement
3:10
around a quarter for y'all and or last
3:12
autumn. heartbreak with this all had endured beforehand.
3:14
As is Mister, you know I missed the
3:16
point at a good at the jail. Got
3:18
to be annoying and Gazelle would take any
3:20
glimmer of hope. It started it it's
3:22
of the but now I realize yeah which
3:24
is why.optimist to provide of other things out
3:26
with on. A
3:30
global news is that you hope
3:32
every resident. Of
3:35
alone and. without
3:38
a court also over the Minnesota zoo own
3:40
bring a little robot or make them up
3:42
our where we bigger have remote other way
3:44
happens go out of you know and I'll
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tell you what happened was I got to
3:48
the city and i'm like what I'll walk
3:50
around and. People will recognize because those really
3:52
live in a baby people. My readiness you.
3:54
but I'm not. Physically. in
3:57
the street every day walking around right
4:00
And don't speak as much English in Miami
4:02
if we be a perfectly nice, right? There's not as
4:04
many people that's going to talk to me, right? Like,
4:06
look, man, you know how this goes. I'm safe in
4:08
Ubers in this city. You know what I mean? They
4:10
don't know me there, right? Miami, it's on the street.
4:13
They don't really know me. But here, people would stop,
4:15
and it would always be dudes, and they come
4:17
up to me, and you could
4:19
feel the heart in
4:21
it. And they'd just be like, so you think
4:23
the Knicks might be good this year? And
4:26
they really just wanted me to tell them that the
4:28
Knicks were going to be good, and
4:31
I was trying, dawg. I mean, I got here in 17,
4:33
man. What the fuck was I going to tell them in 2017? Yeah,
4:36
fact that. It wasn't that much. Like, it took
4:38
a little more time to get there. But I
4:40
realized, oh, no, you guys just really love this
4:42
team so much.
4:45
I didn't know it was possible for
4:47
you playing for them. That had to be a
4:49
landing point early, like, oh, wow, they really love
4:51
this team. Yeah, but most people don't embrace that
4:53
part of it. Yeah. Most guys don't
4:55
embrace that part of it. And if you embrace
4:57
that, you good. Now
4:59
you know how to fucking operate, because you know
5:02
a lot of times it's just
5:04
passion. This motherfucker is just passionate up here. So
5:06
you don't get into it with the fans and
5:08
all of that shit, because you know, all right,
5:11
I respect that. I respect your passion. But for
5:13
so long, it was the
5:16
New York Knicks fans was held as
5:18
the students of the game with the highest IQ
5:21
of the game, native fans with the highest IQ. When
5:24
you're a fan, I mean, when you're a player, you
5:27
start going against that, because now it's like, oh,
5:30
now you think you're smarter than me. Like, you know what I'm
5:32
saying? Now you think you fucking know. I'm
5:34
on this side. I'm really doing it. I'm really doing
5:36
it. So that could be
5:38
the clash a lot of times. But New
5:41
York fans, man, like you said, they're very
5:44
optimistic. So as a player, I knew what
5:46
was going on. I knew too, I had
5:48
to embrace that. Now, did you grow up in
5:50
Knicks fans? No, but my family,
5:52
my household was all Knicks and
5:55
St. John's. OK. So it was
5:57
like, with the New York Red
6:00
80s, 90s. They
6:03
was Knicks and St.
6:05
John. Gotcha, cause I gotta ask you, I will
6:07
always remember this, when you were trying to get
6:09
yourself to the Knicks and the argument that
6:11
you always, one of the big things is you wanted to
6:13
get back to your birthplace and it was always very difficult
6:15
for me to reconcile that with that West Baltimore tattoo that
6:17
you had right there. Yeah, that's a fact, that's a fact.
6:19
Yeah, and I was just kinda like, hey
6:21
man, I know you just wanna go there, dog, but they
6:24
knew when you got here, it was like, welcome home. And
6:26
I was like, yeah, he said he was from Baltimore, man.
6:29
But I just always wanted to have that with together. That's
6:31
a fact, so the New York, the thing, I wasn't
6:33
going to New York. Like at
6:36
this time, I was heavy Denver. Like it
6:38
was like, I was going Denver, Baltimore. Like
6:40
it was back and forth. New York was
6:42
more summertime, come here,
6:44
week stay, move around
6:46
and go. When
6:49
I wanted to come to New York was
6:51
like, I saw the opportunity of New York
6:53
as a whole, cause I'm like, oh
6:55
shit, like New York needs
6:57
something. They need a very particular type
6:59
of person and player to come in
7:02
that New York, to get that
7:04
done. Where was they at? So I
7:06
looked at the landscape, we talked about looking at the landscape
7:08
of all the teams. So I'm like, all right, if this
7:10
was to happen, all right, the
7:12
energy is back, New York is back.
7:15
Amari is here, Ray and them, they
7:17
got the shit rolling in here in New York. The
7:19
lights is bright here and now in New York. So I'm like,
7:23
yo, I see opportunity
7:25
in New York. They got a
7:27
point guard with Ray, they had
7:29
Amari, they had Galinari at
7:32
the time. And
7:35
I'm like, oh, that's the, and
7:37
they had Dan Tony. So I'm like, oh, should I
7:39
know the system? I know that we want
7:41
to play fans, you want to get up and down. I'm
7:44
going over there. That's why I
7:46
want that, I want Broadway. And
7:49
that's where the New York thing came. As
7:51
far as me coming back and
7:53
embracing the whole New York thing, it
7:56
wasn't until I came back Where
7:58
I really felt like, okay, This is this
8:00
would. this is home I guess is what
8:02
home really feels like. Yeah, grew up in
8:05
Baltimore like as well. Learn. How To
8:07
survive Unless it's. Good. Saw it
8:09
in Baltimore like. that's why. That's.
8:11
All my chest was Baltimore, you nonsense
8:14
So. That. Was the difference? Yeah,
8:16
you don't. I braced a New York
8:18
situation when I came back. Or.
8:20
Though I was already young trying to figure it out.
8:23
In Baltimore. Saw. Was always back
8:25
here in the holidays and back and in in
8:27
Brooklyn and Rug during the summer and. Went.
8:29
Around New York. So I made us feel like.
8:32
I was New York heavy via email them say
8:34
is calls have you can I go back from
8:36
New York the Baltimore and did I'm soon a
8:38
dimmer by a hit list of you had a
8:40
real New York Ne right leg is.i'll be We
8:42
know they do this on Friday without a father
8:44
of the forgot to mention that will be guess
8:46
nobody else about validity or so and I'll wear
8:48
yellow Romas but I'm bedevils. I like. To
8:50
see a statically Howard landed like okay new York
8:53
does basis but I was is there like are
8:55
they have a replacement A baby is cool enough
8:57
but he was you know is in. It's interesting
8:59
compared to this era of the next. now where
9:01
you wanted to play for the next like attack
9:04
their job to be a master you wanted it
9:06
deal of Bronson little did we know he wanted
9:08
to same exact job we just thought he want
9:10
to play for the next in that he does
9:12
show up and he is like knob doing this
9:15
now so this is the mayor do like think
9:17
I can explain that to people that like with
9:19
the knicks are rolled into cities a lot happier
9:21
and be in the do behind the next one
9:23
is road and I can't imagine easy be a
9:26
for a nightmare. My own cell was most proud
9:28
because when he came over. Like. Like
9:30
the situation was perfect for him. There
9:33
was imperfect. It was perfect. It
9:35
was a perfect opportunity to answer some old
9:37
i will. You're looking to other landscapes who
9:39
was like okay you. Got. Those guys
9:41
down at a button they they do. you know mean
9:43
they got a big dreaming for down and you got
9:45
this team away. It's. Got. League as
9:47
our Wes. I'm already out with by so
9:49
we're doing a we're building a bag of
9:52
like this is we will have a cut
9:54
without is Ahmed make masses wizards the wow
9:56
our our see myself. Being. In
9:58
assists a wizard for these next. Six
10:00
seven years like? That's. How I
10:02
looked at. It so. Coming to New York with. That.
10:05
Was that was easy. That's a mean I was.
10:07
It was a only is common for long haul
10:09
and. This. Is the next? Be this
10:11
a lot. Expectation is the latest is
10:13
bright. You. Know when, when? You
10:16
know a mom uses of a star is alright
10:18
but Carmelo did his com eleven so psyched when
10:20
you come in is automatically your we talk about
10:23
the white hat like the guy on and seen
10:25
in and say. You. Com and you
10:27
automatically the White Hat go to into
10:29
another first. As Uma Thurman on the
10:31
video only Cydia brought us a lot
10:33
of pressure. breath. And. To do that
10:35
and like. but if you think about it, The.
10:38
Closest he bends to the success that we got
10:40
now. Was. That Twenty twelve, Twenty
10:42
Thirteen team. Scoring. Chance
10:44
So I sincerely displayed year Jr.
10:46
Smith Six minutes you. Beat.
10:49
The Heat: three or four times. You.
10:51
Insane. And then I was. you do that But as
10:53
do that are You know that's that's the best a
10:55
New York. So by said I. Enjoy
10:58
that my old other words are
11:00
in the regular zero. Itself
11:03
because one of the mother bear think they that
11:05
ever happened to the day is what I gave
11:08
it a play off the credited three to Why
11:10
do you have a look at a good for
11:12
Betty veiled for the ceiling But Alibi or to
11:14
Be are not as good as. Good
11:17
as is why we talk about. The
11:21
only see. Both look that up was Roy
11:23
Hibbert. Oh no man, a
11:25
mother father must have also been set
11:27
up an obesity alone hills and forty
11:29
hours of but don't say about was
11:31
it but that team was. A
11:34
of of solidly constructed William where
11:36
everybody had their roles as the
11:38
know web. And or me with
11:40
the your corner threes automatic like. And
11:42
it was this. A. Good team A you
11:45
was a fun thing to watch. They
11:47
a competitive in insane was city. five wins
11:49
in I'm saying and. You
11:51
know since then the enemy is
11:54
today Jay Lynn. Julius.
11:56
I'm saying get better soon You I'm saying we, we, we,
11:58
we have you. But. This team
12:00
now has been the closest to
12:02
that team. They give
12:04
that energy though as far as the
12:06
energy, as far as the
12:09
togetherness. This next
12:11
team is very together. It's
12:13
the kind of team this city likes. Absolutely. It's
12:16
that hard working team,
12:18
hard working players. Jayden Brunson
12:20
is making himself into a star,
12:22
a superstar. Right?
12:26
Everybody's hard-nosed workers on that team.
12:28
It's perfectly built a defensive team,
12:31
athletic guys who can switch off, guys
12:33
who don't need the ball to be
12:35
effective. But also the most important part
12:37
is they like each other. They
12:40
fuck with each other. You see three, four of
12:42
them out outside together. You know what I mean?
12:44
They're moving around. They're doing shows together. They're doing
12:46
this together. And that was what our team
12:48
had. When we went on the road...
12:50
The nicks tape. The nicks tape was on the
12:52
road. We was outside. We
12:55
had a collection of humanity on
12:57
that team. Oh my God. The
12:59
personalities, man. We had older
13:02
guys like the vet, vet, vet, vet,
13:04
the Sheeds and the Kurt Thomas's and
13:06
the Jason Kids and who else
13:08
was it? I think the K-Marts and the Ron
13:11
Arts and the Metal World. That
13:14
was one group. Then you
13:16
had the middle group who was
13:18
like Tyson, Amari,
13:21
myself, Jr.
13:25
Then you had Pablo Prezioni. He was
13:27
up there with them. And
13:30
then you had a young boy,
13:33
Chump. You know what I'm saying? I think
13:35
we had Chris Copeland was on that team. Steve
13:38
Novak was on that team. We
13:40
had levels of different type
13:42
of personalities on that team. James White was on
13:44
that team, I think. James
13:47
White was on that team. What an
13:49
NBA Caucasian archetype was Steve Novak giving
13:51
you. I know he was given the
13:53
belt, but there's a sociology and cultural
13:55
interplay with our homies. The playing top.
13:57
Yeah. He
14:00
was intuit as a hard stay late even
14:02
though we know i the hadza had asthma
14:04
they are than a hard stand up now
14:06
for some reason to pay like forgotten his
14:08
of of of now on I'm good at
14:10
it all out there that have a hundred
14:12
I wish I knew that they aren't as
14:14
I'm in a bar that is really gonna
14:16
have been. Removed
14:18
from the for disease. Of.
14:24
People up with of as the only been to one
14:26
gave him as regards I refused to pay those prices
14:28
like they did not good enough for. Me to think
14:30
about panels brightest be a Roy would wear.
14:32
it was in October game against the Hornets
14:34
last year. Can add. The. Crowd
14:37
had not heard that hard saw was it as
14:39
a Us today. was so excited every time he
14:41
got anywhere near the real he go for said
14:43
here's a. Move
14:45
would exemplary right? But
14:47
he ago whore the hit and miss Robinson
14:50
guys don't know Nothing is more part of
14:52
a be a bit of salt and pepper
14:54
big bad cop and he would like google
14:56
irs. Says
15:00
it with this city. Like.
15:03
The. Relationship the knicks have with it. Like the other
15:05
thing I didn't realize body was married to. Think about
15:07
it. It's. The only team that the
15:09
whole city has right? Like all due respect
15:11
to the Nesmith. Fuck outta here like this.
15:13
Not. Like. The people off average for
15:15
the desert from New Jersey or moved here for about
15:17
a town of they did He protects right. But.
15:19
The Knicks is like the one unified saying that
15:21
makes displays go with so to play Article be
15:24
edited because use rebels not play and although this
15:26
blessing and curse they're kind of comes with debt.
15:28
right? If the next get
15:30
this another ship go go deep. gets the
15:33
blitz. And that's insane to
15:35
me. Just say, as a Knicks fan, I'm of
15:37
a mama. As to be and it's
15:39
a delusion, do some in the. Book.
15:42
For the most part unless you're listen,
15:44
I want Monday team to be my
15:46
mother. Fucking Patagonia stopped me from your
15:48
enemies. I would slow steady purchases if
15:50
you have been eliminated. That was the.
15:53
last one to get roman exactly the building a
15:55
team right when he be on i didn't bring
15:57
you like injury nice you know enough I'm not
16:00
I'm not one of them dudes like yo trade
16:02
trade every pick in JB and and
16:07
And Dante for spider now I'm not
16:09
one of them dudes you know saying
16:11
or like yo whoever the big free agent is
16:13
like yo throw everybody at him But this
16:15
guy I don't think like that. I'm like Wes
16:18
has proven that he knows how to work.
16:21
You know, I mean the free agency to draft all that shit You
16:23
know I'm saying so hey bro cook, you
16:25
know saying you just mentioned Dante Steve Novak He like
16:28
Dante he ain't going all the way to Dante land.
16:30
No, I think I'm a little more Nobody
16:32
going all the way to not a man. I hate
16:35
Dante He
16:37
ain't dancing. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no Dante since
16:39
he was in college I looked up. I was like
16:41
Dante with a oh he white Dante Yeah, if I
16:43
go by Dante that me we thought that cuz I
16:45
mean well watch that game And then I saw about
16:47
the party match. I was like, oh he wanted. Oh,
16:49
yeah now Steve Steve wasn't Steve was it that Yeah,
16:51
he got no, he's a White
16:56
dudes that stay white dudes in the NBA.
16:58
I'm fascinated my bill, bro. The ones that
17:00
may say they they roots No, like how did
17:02
you do that? I even went to the battles
17:04
though with Steve
17:06
Novak went through battles and practice
17:12
He was holding that talking shit popping this shit You
17:14
know me like we was you had
17:16
to in that environment like that environment was
17:18
talking big shit And I
17:21
seen it like you can see like the lip reading and Shaq
17:23
and see Steve nobody being like Entertain
17:43
and Bishop
17:46
in Austin at South by Southwest and I had
17:48
to tell him he mentioned this he somehow mentioned
17:50
it He's doing a live podcast I
17:52
could never get a clear picture in college what
17:54
kind of game he had because I lived in
17:57
North Carolina And Carolina offered him a scholarship that
17:59
said that Larry Drew would start
18:01
over him and he ate
18:03
they asses up every like in
18:05
a way where I knew I
18:08
knew it was about this game and I don't know how good he
18:10
is because right now he looks like Michael Jordan yeah I got to
18:12
tell him that he was just like yeah yeah no they said they
18:14
was gonna give Larry Drew a scholarship over me and I was not
18:17
going for that shit every
18:20
time he took all that energy from
18:23
that team that
18:25
first year like he took all
18:27
the energy that was given from
18:29
every personality on that team along
18:31
with his personality like he was
18:34
he's a big personality you get
18:36
what I'm saying oh yeah because
18:38
we had the dynamic of that
18:40
team we was able to
18:42
kind of mold that that energy
18:44
you get what I'm saying but still let him be who
18:46
he was you you want to be right
18:49
right we don't let you be right right we
18:51
need that from you you want to wrap
18:53
that right so that right there just was
18:55
building and building into the next year he
18:57
came back as
18:59
ready to tear something up the next year but that
19:01
energy around with what he was around in that locker
19:03
room and on the road and learning
19:06
the game and understanding the game from
19:08
different levels of different people
19:11
like rookies don't get that coming
19:13
into the NBA they know young players don't
19:15
get that to have a dynamic
19:17
I have a team dynamic with that
19:19
much experience from different levels
19:22
of player throughout their throughout their career he says that
19:24
shit all the time like when he does any of
19:26
you this shit he gives you your flowers all the
19:28
time he's like your mellows one of the illest vets
19:31
I've played with not even for me I'm
19:33
saying from what we created around we
19:36
talk about culture in the locker room and culture in
19:38
the in the arena and it started
19:40
to spill out into the court and spill out
19:42
to the fans to the point where
19:44
y'all was talking next tape next tape that was
19:47
it well let me ask you this though because
19:49
I think a lot of people when they start
19:51
talking about like positive culture a locker room culture
19:53
for whatever reason that is not something that people
19:56
readily associate you with yeah absolutely right how do
19:58
you feel about that I hate it I
20:00
just want to know where it comes from.
20:03
Where the fuck does that come
20:05
from? Like if your player,
20:07
if your comrades ain't saying nothing about that,
20:11
if your coach, you know what I mean, your
20:13
assistants ain't saying to people that you with every
20:15
single day, if the staff ain't talking about it,
20:18
if the training staff ain't talking about it, if
20:20
the people who clean up the locker room ain't
20:22
talking about it, the chefs ain't talking about it, where
20:24
is it coming from? From a distance, and I
20:26
acknowledge it as a distance, it seemed like, and
20:28
I think people say this about Kevin Durant too,
20:30
again from a distance, that you
20:33
balled and you did what you were doing basketball
20:35
wise, but you were not the person to say
20:37
something about it. And then that's what people want.
20:39
That is from the distance, I think the production
20:41
of people had. Yeah, I got that. I got
20:43
people wanting me to like, like
20:45
boast and brag on what I
20:47
was doing, right? Instead
20:50
of allowing other people to do it. Whereas at
20:52
that time, it wasn't a lot of people that
20:54
was doing it. So it was like,
20:56
Melo, why you ain't defending yourself? Why you ain't
20:58
beating yourself up? I just
21:00
never was who I was. Like I knew who I was, I
21:03
knew what the fuck I was doing. I know when I step on
21:05
that, what's the conversations? I know
21:07
what's happening in them opposing locker rooms. I
21:09
know the scouting, I know all of that.
21:11
So I really cared about more
21:14
so of that and thinking about some whole other shit. You
21:16
think it would have gone different for you though, maybe you
21:18
came into the league a little older. And the reason I
21:20
ask that is like, you were a freshman in college, and
21:22
even if you were the man in college, you still got
21:25
to get up to speed. And then you get to Denver
21:27
and you'd ever do like Kenyon and those cats who got
21:29
big personalities on top of it, that it can be easier.
21:31
I think some people might think as a younger dude to
21:33
have those personalities do that. And then they put you in
21:36
a position where all you got to do is who. I
21:38
think that's a great question. It was created
21:40
that way, right? So when
21:42
I first got there, it wasn't a big personality. Like
21:45
Marcus Canby was big, Marcus came not a big personality. You
21:47
know what I mean? Like he come to work, do what
21:49
he do, shop block, and you know, talking
21:51
shit here and there, but he's not a big personality.
21:55
Andre Miller is not a
21:57
big personality. He's a personality.
22:00
He's not a big personality. Earl Boykins
22:02
wasn't a, you know, he's a big,
22:04
you know, but he's
22:06
not a big personality. The
22:09
only big personality we had on that
22:11
team was Birdman, Chris Anderson.
22:13
That was the only big personality we had on
22:16
the team. So when I came, Kiki
22:18
Vanuie did a great job of looking at the
22:20
landscape of like, okay, this is
22:23
what the fuck I need to bring around
22:25
this team. And Kiki was
22:27
thinking of building a tough
22:29
team. He wanted toughness. He wanted powerful.
22:31
He was athletic. And he knew
22:33
out of everybody who was on the market, he wanted
22:35
K-Mart. He wanted
22:38
K-Mart and he was willing to pay K-Mart that
22:40
bread. At that time, everybody was like, okay,
22:43
why they paying him this money? Why they
22:45
giving him that? He leaving Jersey. It was
22:47
a lot of shit being talked about K-Mart
22:49
coming. But we was building the pieces
22:52
of what we really needed. And
22:54
I understood that to an extent as
22:56
a young player. I know
22:58
where I come from. I need a dog. I
23:00
need toughness. I need killers. Like, K-Mart
23:03
coming. Hell yeah. J.R. Smith wanted to leave. I
23:05
mean, the Hornets. Hell yeah. Love you all. I
23:07
know what Shorty can do. I just watched him
23:09
in high school. I just watched the McDonald's game.
23:11
I've seen him sporadically at
23:14
the Hornets. I know what's going on. And
23:16
we got Andre Meloos, one of
23:18
the top point guards at this point in
23:20
time, who Earl Borkins was doing. So we built
23:22
that situation over there intentionally.
23:25
So to a point where I can just come hoop
23:27
to your point, like, I'm coming to hoop. I ain't
23:29
got to. I'm still 19, 20. I'm
23:32
still learning how to be around
23:34
this environment. I'm still trying. I'm still
23:36
being cool. I'm still doing what I do. And
23:38
still got to go win and try to
23:40
lead not a team or organization.
23:43
So I understood that. And the reason
23:46
those guys surrounded me like that and embraced me like
23:48
that, like, yo, we ain't going to let you. We
23:52
got you. It was because they
23:54
understood that I was embracing it, but
23:56
I was embracing it too much. We
23:58
can't let you embrace all of this. at
24:01
one time. So we gonna separate this.
24:03
We gonna keep you away from this. We gonna let you do
24:05
this. You just go hoop, you go score, you go do this,
24:07
you go do that. And
24:09
that's what it was. A bit of a detour, because it
24:12
donned on me. I don't even know if you remember when
24:14
this happened. But for you there that
24:16
day, that JR put
24:18
the popcorn in Kenny
24:20
Martin's car. Team. Yo, yo. We
24:23
was on the team. I
24:25
did not answer. We was on one of that.
24:27
That was crazy. That's the epitome of who he
24:29
was. You gotta tell the people what happened with
24:31
this. That's
24:34
who it was. Like it was, anybody can
24:36
get it. For
24:38
those who are unaware of this, as
24:40
a prank that I myself would not have tried to
24:42
pull off, JR spit loaded up Kenny
24:45
Martin's car. It was actual popcorn, right? Not
24:47
like styrofoam, but actual butter popcorn in his
24:49
brand new car. It was a rain of
24:51
popcorn. The big
24:54
yellow bags and all. And
24:56
as I recall, it went with Kenny Martin exactly as you
24:59
would expect what you discovered to do to that. Yeah, Kenny,
25:01
Kenny, Kenny Martin want to kill him. Yeah.
25:03
Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah.
25:06
That's the other thing, that Kenny Martin want to kill him, baby.
25:09
Yo, I know. Kenny Martin, Kenny Martin. That kind
25:11
of character. No, out of all of those colors on
25:13
that team, I'm about to try to wear them. No,
25:16
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You
25:18
can't control. Like at that point in time, like
25:21
Kenny Martin was once he'd go, he'd go. Like
25:24
once he get there, he goes. And there ain't
25:27
no, you gotta
25:29
be somebody who he really trust and really
25:31
fuck with to like be
25:33
able to step in the middle of that. Cause once
25:35
he goes, he goes. I'm
25:38
not the one getting in the middle. I can't imagine
25:40
that. I would not have that much trust in the
25:42
trust that I had built. Yeah, like there was that
25:44
incident, like the popcorn incident was when I seen him
25:46
like smoke coming out of his
25:49
ears. And then it
25:51
was a situation where we playing the
25:53
Clippers and the playoffs with
25:56
George Carl, not with the coach, with
25:58
the, with the. and
26:02
came out was coming back off an injury that year and
26:04
we playing Elton Brann and Sam Good sound like you know
26:06
what I mean like this in the Clippers was so
26:09
George promised them you know just sit off come back
26:11
to playoffs I got you come back first game we
26:14
gonna give you a couple of minutes see where you
26:16
at second game we gonna so
26:18
he looking first
26:20
game you know
26:23
it's cool second game starting
26:26
Francisco Elson third
26:29
quarter come he ain't in it's just like he
26:33
might loses it like it was
26:35
a lot more going into that but he's on the
26:37
end of the bench and he's just steaming
26:42
and you see this fucking you see this
26:45
shit and I fucking
26:48
halftime goes in the back loses
26:51
it loses it
26:53
turns anybody out fuck
26:56
out of here coaches players anybody got
26:58
something to say it's
27:00
whatever it is shit
27:02
and leave this halftime he leaves the
27:04
free leaving I
27:11
saw this is this is serious this
27:14
is serious but I seen it brewing I've
27:17
seen it on the sideline brewing I
27:19
knew what was happening like it
27:22
was a reason to be tight you know
27:24
the man was a reason for him to be tight but he
27:27
bugged he left I said oh somebody
27:29
get this thing but that's you know
27:31
that's to the to the
27:42
point like that's that was a team in the culture
27:44
that we actually created over in
27:47
Denver the day about Kenny Martin but
27:49
bad over here from Dallas unfortunate for
27:51
him but he was asking like why
27:53
it's so hard on Dallas and
27:56
I will have you know that what I did
27:58
gills arena there were no doubt to be told.
28:01
Not in the presence of Kenny Martin, no sir.
28:03
Dallas is Paris as far as I'm concerned if
28:06
Kenny Martin says so. So why would I have
28:08
to do something? Like if I'm creating
28:10
a team, I want that. I
28:12
need somebody that's going
28:15
to protect my best player. But you also
28:17
got to stand on your, you know what I mean? But I
28:19
need somebody when shit hit the fan that the, it's
28:21
a lot of shit that as the white hat don't really
28:23
want to deal with it. A lot of times, you know,
28:25
they just get shotted away from it. So
28:27
you need those, those kinds of hit men like,
28:29
you know what I mean? Like them a left.
28:31
None. You D was one. Yeah. You D was
28:34
one. I mean, and I guess like
28:36
this Isaiah Stewart count. No, I ain't
28:38
been doing that. Yeah. As I say, he just, he's
28:40
if he could see if he could stick around long
28:42
enough, right? The black thought bride, right? Learn the rules,
28:45
learn the rules, little homie. You could be one too.
28:47
I come with experience too though. Yeah. I mean, I
28:49
come with experience. Like you just can't get that title.
28:51
Like, Oh my belief that the NBA
28:53
was a little better when not everybody was good at
28:56
basketball. I understand why that may seem counter to the
28:58
new new role. You knew your role. Yeah. Yep. Just
29:00
somebody didn't play outside yourself. You know what I'm saying?
29:02
Like that you got motherfuckers. Everybody's like, yo, I'm gonna
29:04
drop 50 tonight. Fuck that. Yeah. You know what I'm
29:07
saying? And they can. Oh, when you, when you're not
29:09
that good at basketball, you got to figure out other
29:11
ways to earn. You keep, those are typically very entertaining
29:13
techniques that keep everybody out here. Like I was looking
29:15
at my man, till appointed us out. We were looking
29:17
at like one of those new, the heat maps for
29:20
like where all the shots go, the difference between now
29:22
and 20 years ago. And what you see is
29:24
that the mid range game is completely gone and
29:26
it's completely gone because they, nobody, the elbows in
29:29
the paint are just not there anymore. Like if
29:31
you, if everybody could just get one enforcer on
29:33
every team, we'd have much more shot diversity than
29:35
we used to be. That's what they told me. That's what
29:38
they told me when I did my first game back. He's
29:41
like, no,
29:43
no, no, no, that bully ball shit is out.
29:45
When you said my bad, I mean, what? What
29:52
Was that like though? In The, there was a paradigm
29:54
shift that took place in the middle of your career.
29:56
You became a 40% three point shooter. So It's not
29:58
like you didn't adjust, but the paradigm. Changes.
30:01
In the middle of your career. About the
30:03
thing That is the thing that is your
30:05
thing. With. The since you felt the
30:07
system when you felt as if because
30:09
com faces and of seasons and lot
30:11
different now. Is. Your we
30:13
are we will switch off and so is his.
30:16
We want to suit his many Dewey's we wanted.
30:18
In Odis make more sense in there and
30:20
as you sit manages. I
30:23
got i hear you You know maybe
30:25
it's the is happening and quick time
30:27
right? and then use. You. Plan
30:29
seems was already adjusted to that every wrap
30:31
up as listen when you try to do
30:33
at that point Gazette employed you com ela
30:36
goddamn And now for the not not not
30:38
for it that style of game My it
30:40
wasn't just like thrown at, it wasn't just
30:42
like this is what we gonna do, it
30:44
was slow drip, site specific types. I
30:46
now mellow now qaeda il caso to get
30:48
gets we want to in a corner now
30:51
we want you to some breezy wants you
30:53
to. The. I'm like damn
30:55
I okay you start seeing a sieve slowly
30:57
start the happened in a calm seas is
30:59
happening. The practice. Of season
31:01
strategies is is different you come back
31:04
train it and natty is is faster.
31:06
So. Me been away from their game for that
31:08
a of town i have a was adding watched
31:11
again. So. My first game back.
31:14
I'm. Just go back to what I know but I
31:16
know the game has changed or know is more threes
31:19
now have. You. Know. Like
31:21
oh, sit. Back. And images do
31:23
or early postal. Let me give decay and early
31:25
post up. And our own the
31:28
went up office have found what the fuck
31:30
is that came out again like going to
31:32
pose a total when I saw it on
31:34
my back down. Au. Nom.
31:38
Elena the Bully Bonomo Balibo. Them.
31:41
Days over his The rest a Referee
31:43
Domenech as crazy Hours there's naked of
31:45
of is our footwear them are respectively
31:47
Lego Methylphenidate if you are you being.
31:50
He. Been gone. The. Games
31:52
turns. Out. Only.
31:55
It booted. That those nuns and
31:57
other simply below yellow stuff deleted Divorce.
32:00
is ah but was it really them because
32:02
yeah of course I think they did part
32:04
of it cuz I feel like that shift
32:06
started before them I was a but I
32:08
think the NBA misunderstood something they understood that
32:10
people like offense yeah but points and
32:13
offense are not the same thing and so when
32:15
you do all this stuff to increase points we
32:17
started looking at it and we like yo man
32:19
it ain't even really offense right like that's why
32:21
when we did the other episode we talk about
32:23
the best offensive performance and I protested right
32:35
it's just like points and offense
32:37
are not the same thing like to be
32:39
offense especially I guess growing up
32:41
watching 80s and 90s basketball before the rules changes there's
32:43
an art to it right like there's an art to
32:45
be in 17 feet away
32:47
but you're back to the dude in the phone booth
32:50
and like you know the things like like
32:52
all those things there there's an basketball is aesthetic
32:54
as much as anything else right and
32:56
so I think that people like that
32:58
they like the physicality I think they would think
33:00
what happened was though offense got so good these
33:02
motherfuckers just close a lot of people like it
33:04
just it went a little
33:07
too far no layups and then we went back
33:09
the other way but I don't think people want
33:11
points I think people want offense
33:13
which is why they like the college game like
33:16
which is why they love women's basketball like
33:18
the girls game because they
33:21
have offense yeah and I hate the
33:23
always compared it to but we talk about the
33:25
purity of always talk about it that's why so
33:28
your point we want is people want to see
33:30
office especially the especially people who came from those
33:32
errors like the fans of the
33:34
game who come from those errors where you
33:37
know what it takes to draw up a
33:39
play and go execute that play you
33:42
know I want to get Patrick you know in the
33:44
ball on this block and we don't make run a
33:46
misdirection play to get him a cross screen on this
33:48
block like that's what we want to
33:50
see we want to see what makes a
33:53
tool guard a shooting guard a shooting guard
33:56
like if you are Reggie Miller tight I want to see
33:58
you get your shot I want
34:00
to see what you're going to do to work you're going to put it. If
34:02
you were a Chris
34:05
Paul or Darren Williams at the
34:08
time, I want to see what makes you a
34:10
really good point guard. Now
34:12
you don't have to prove that anymore.
34:15
All you have to do is know how to play a pick and roll, come off the
34:17
pick and roll and be able to shoot the chase. The
34:20
read is downhill. That's the read. There's
34:23
no more point guards coming off and already
34:25
knowing the read that they really want. That's
34:28
the first option. There's no more of
34:30
those Chauncey Billups where like
34:32
I got to learn, yo my
34:34
best player on the team ain't touched the ball in a
34:37
couple of possessions or he ain't, you know what I mean?
34:39
Like I got to get him going. How do I
34:41
get him going? How do I get this player's shots? Like
34:44
there's no more of that. It's
34:47
just high powered guards that's out there getting
34:50
to it. You know, I love to watch
34:52
it. Yeah. But to your point when you
34:54
start talking about the game game and running
34:57
offense and executing and
34:59
that's why in the playoffs a lot of guys be kind
35:01
of lost in that when you got to execute plays and
35:03
you got the timing is everything and angles is
35:06
everything and the screen is you
35:08
got to execute. You be lost. Exactly
35:10
what you said, man. It's the difference between
35:12
offense and points. You got dudes dropping 70
35:15
on straight like metal saying straight downhill.
35:18
Ah, step in your chest. Next position straight
35:20
downhill. Ah, step in your chest. Next possession.
35:23
Hence you pull three. Ah, three times in a row. Now
35:25
you got seven threes. That's 21
35:27
points. You know what I'm saying? Which used
35:29
to be like a superstar average. And if
35:31
I'm shooting a midi as a coach, as
35:33
a team, I'm looking at Andy Liddy's like,
35:36
yo, they shooting threes. You shoot with two. Like,
35:38
I had a nice shot at it. I'm
35:41
like, yo, take the best shot available. That's what I
35:43
take the best shot available. And whatever
35:46
happens happens. But the Andy Liddy saying
35:48
the three is better than the two. And
35:50
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38:12
my favorite time of the year. Like, this is
38:14
Christmas for me. I don't know where I get
38:16
to sleep. Like, I remember I used to do
38:18
morning radio, and me and different guys on
38:20
the show would have to do shifts on who got to
38:22
sleep, because otherwise we'd all be up until 2 o'clock in
38:24
the morning, and then getting back up at 7. You should
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be sitting up, Bo. Oh, yeah. You should be sitting up
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you wake up and you turn on your TV, and
38:34
it's all charm from TNT being on the night before.
38:37
Like, this is it. And commercials, man. Yes, it
38:39
is it. I admit, I'm
38:41
not that... I mean, you're the next guys, guys. You've already
38:43
talked about them, though. Outside of the
38:45
East, the East, not that compelling to
38:47
me right now. The West. Going crazy.
38:49
100% fascinating. Even though
38:51
I am positive I know who's going to win the West.
38:53
Who you at? Denver?
38:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why
38:58
don't we don't treat them like they're champions? They
39:01
are champions. They are the champ staff. Everything that made them
39:03
the champ, they're the best player in the world. You gotta
39:05
go through this, man. And nobody's stopping him. I don't think
39:07
anybody's beating them. You gotta go through this. You gotta go
39:10
through Denver. Yeah, you gotta go through Denver. But the problem
39:12
is swag. Like,
39:14
this is America, B. We
39:16
want our stars to be flashy, entertaining.
39:19
Look. You know what I'm saying? You're right. Look,
39:21
if Michael Porter wasn't wearing all them devices just
39:23
to play, he would be that guy, right? Like,
39:25
I don't think people appreciate what he physically overcomes
39:28
just to get on the floor. He would be
39:30
that guy. Jamal Murray can be that
39:32
guy at times. Yeah, but you're right. They're best
39:34
players. Just... I am
39:36
unstoppable. You cannot stop. You cannot. You
39:39
can try. But you cannot stop. Brother, I
39:41
have 47 points. You have... My
39:44
friend, in this third quarter, I have 58. Look
39:47
at my brother over there. He is 6'5", 12. He
39:52
weighs 16,000 kilograms. He's
39:55
still 5'12". Brother,
39:57
listen. You may have... win
40:00
this game and I will bet you two of
40:02
my horse. That's
40:04
on his arm bro. You know what I'm saying? He ain't at the club.
40:08
You have to go through Denver bro. You have to. Yo,
40:11
that top four is so interesting because the thing to
40:13
me about if the question is why do you pick
40:15
Denver? The answer is who in the world are you
40:17
going to pick otherwise, right? Minnesota
40:19
gave them the best run last year. They
40:22
made a few things break right. Maybe they're the
40:24
ones that figure out how to do it. We
40:26
talk about the curve all the time. Ant-Man
40:29
being one of those guys that's like
40:31
in that like that S tier bro.
40:34
Like you could be the guy that is the face of the league.
40:36
We talk about it all the time. And
40:40
this could be his moment bro. You take
40:42
Denver out. It's hard bro. It's
40:45
almost impossible. It's not impossible.
40:48
But it's such a it would be such
40:50
a crazy look for him. It could happen.
40:52
In his career that that I feel like that
40:54
would be the curve for him to be like, I ain't.
40:57
Yeah, because you really got you really have to you really
40:59
have to beat Denver. All
41:02
of like you really have to like beat them
41:04
like as a team as a unit as a
41:06
staff. Like you really have to come
41:09
to play every play of the game
41:11
every second of the game for seven
41:14
games. So if you're
41:16
not ready to go with the
41:18
ebb and flow of this series and then when it's time
41:20
to if it gets there, you
41:23
can't handle that and you can't make those
41:25
adjustments. You have to make those adjustments like
41:28
it's all about those adjustments because I feel like Oklahoma City
41:30
just too light in the ass. Like
41:32
it's not their fault. They they're going to need
41:34
to and they will because they have draft picks
41:37
out the wild. They got young players like they
41:39
they're going to be a problem for a long
41:41
time. But this but this ain't the year. They're
41:43
a fun team. They're a fun team. You know,
41:45
this is this is like like an undergrad for
41:47
them. Yes. You know, like, yo, you won't learn
41:49
some shit and then you're going to come back next
41:51
year better, smarter. When Oh, and it's Skinny King Chet
41:53
fully gets this thing going. What?
41:56
Baby, it's going to be a problem. Like
41:58
I think Big Vic has obviously. Obscured
42:00
the fact that Chet has absolutely
42:03
He's absolutely big. I'm so ready for it. And he
42:05
got the sauce too. He's one of them. He's one of
42:07
them guys He has not swag a list, bro. Yeah,
42:09
you got a lot of Tough
42:12
bro It
42:15
is I mean look we haven't gotten to the clip I mean the
42:17
Clippers We
42:19
all know that we all know what the issue
42:21
is we can none of our advance X's and
42:24
O's matter The only thing that matters is is
42:26
James Harden go fuck it up for everybody Maybe
42:30
he does maybe he does it we have seen
42:32
him do it We've seen him carry teams like
42:34
that playoffs that last year series with Philly where
42:36
he had two games without him bead Where he
42:38
said get on my back and he said it
42:40
I'm cooking and then it was that last one
42:42
and it was like hey Man, who want to
42:45
go y'all ready? Like
42:51
they the team to me that can You
42:56
They have to come they have the pieces to
42:58
do it I feel like you can count on
43:00
more than anybody else in the playoffs other than
43:02
the yokage and maybe right there It's quite Leonard
43:04
quietly all-time great postseason. Yeah They
43:09
have the pieces 100%
43:11
and it's just like who else is in the West
43:14
you saying jelly Oh, we so Sacramento who we have
43:16
completely forgotten about after being everybody's daughter last year Yeah
43:19
Dallas and whatever ain't scary though. That dad is
43:21
a Dallas is scary Hey, can I send a
43:23
shot? I've said it before but I'm gonna say
43:25
it again Can I send a shout out to
43:27
Kyrie because I really did not think that he
43:29
could behave Himself and I hate to say that
43:32
like that because he's a grown-up, but it got
43:34
kind of crazy, right? I didn't think
43:36
that it could be so quiet all the
43:38
way through this year. He's a It's
43:42
a humanitarian piece is going on over there
43:44
and he's still acting right peace Will
43:47
you find you find a piece? When
43:54
you find your piece nothing could disrupt you
43:56
I saw that man in the post game
43:58
with the skull fovers And I was like, oh,
44:00
nah. Uh-oh. He is at peace. No, no, no. I
44:03
was afraid when I saw that, because I thought he
44:05
was about to start talking. Oh, nah. That ain't like
44:07
when I got it. Like, hey, hey, hey, I guarantee
44:09
you. He does that. You pretty good at that. There
44:11
was a conversation. You pretty good at that. I don't
44:13
know if it was Joe Dumars. I don't know if
44:15
it was Nico down there with the Mavericks. But somebody
44:17
came in and was like, hey, man, look. It's
44:20
a lot going on in the world right now.
44:22
And I know you feel like you got
44:24
to do something. I only think that conversation needed to
44:26
happen. You already know what
44:28
Tyler was. He set the tone already. You
44:30
don't even come over here. Don't even come
44:33
over here to me. Let me
44:35
do what I do. Let me find my peace. And
44:37
I'm cool. And he's done it. How much is that?
44:39
Shout out to Kyle for that, man. How much is
44:42
that? Well, how about this? I want to give Kyrie
44:44
credit for the fact that I was not sure how
44:46
willing he would be to ride shotgun to
44:49
anybody, really, at that point, but to Luca Dodgers. And he
44:52
did it. Like, and I was hard on the dude, right?
44:54
Like, I feel like it's imperative, if I was as hard
44:56
as I was on him in those times, to look at
44:58
it and be like, nah, he's done it. And
45:01
two dudes that you can't guard in the
45:03
playoffs. So they scary. They
45:05
scary. Like, Kyrie is like, I
45:09
think he matured to the point where
45:12
he was younger in Cleveland. You
45:14
know what I'm saying? He was coming up and Brown
45:16
was already in it. He was trying to find
45:19
his way and be that. You know what
45:21
I mean? Now he's been through the ringer. He's
45:24
been to a couple of situations. Now
45:27
he found the situation where he's comfortable. I'm
45:30
happy. I'm good. I ain't got to
45:32
worry about. I done went through the worst shit ever.
45:35
I done went through it. So now everything is up
45:37
for me. All I got to do is just focus and get back
45:39
on my dean and just play basketball.
45:42
The reason why I work with Luca is because he's
45:44
a basketball player. Like, Kyrie is just a basketball man.
45:46
He just loved the hoop. He loved the game. And
45:49
if it's somebody else at this point now who can
45:51
go out there and do the same thing, he
45:54
going to do it. He could have went somewhere else. He
45:57
could have went somewhere else. Oh, definitely. You understand
45:59
what I'm saying? He could have been
46:01
over there in purple
46:04
and gold. In other
46:06
situations, he chose
46:08
Dallas because
46:11
Dallas chose him. Mark Cuban
46:14
did a hell of a thing about bringing him in
46:16
and saying, hey, I got you. I'm
46:19
going to give you this platform. You
46:21
got to meet me somewhere, but I'm going to give
46:23
you this platform. We're going to have tough conversations, but
46:26
I'm going to give you this platform and go out there and do
46:28
what you want to do. This is the craziest thing about the West.
46:31
So it fits with them. But like the craziest thing about
46:33
the league right now, when you talk about the overall level
46:35
of talent, Phoenix
46:37
has all the dudes that they have. The
46:40
Lakers have Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
46:42
Who's AD is having a hell of
46:44
a year. And LeBron is still, I
46:46
mean, he's not as good as he
46:49
used to be. And I don't think he's as good
46:51
as his numbers, but that does not mean he's not
46:53
very good. Like these dudes are still balling. Neither one
46:55
of them teams got no chance at winning the West.
46:58
That's about the league, right? It's
47:00
not even so much about them, but Phoenix with all those
47:02
dudes they got, and none of us thinks that they have
47:04
a chance to win this. That's
47:06
where this league is. They got the
47:08
pieces though. They do. That's what it
47:10
is. They got the pieces. I do
47:12
believe Phoenix like... Bro,
47:14
and this is not... They got the fucking
47:17
pieces. And also real shit like, you know,
47:19
NFL single elimination. This is feeling to me,
47:21
it's giving NFL in the sense that if
47:24
something break left for a certain team, they
47:27
could get high and go on a run. You know
47:29
what I mean? Like, you know, barring injuries because
47:31
you never want to see that. But like just
47:33
certain things break in a certain way, certain
47:36
calls break in a certain... You know, playoffs,
47:38
it's a possession game now. You
47:40
know what I mean? It's like clock management, possession, shit like
47:42
that. So it's like, yo, a foul,
47:44
a missed call, a loose ball.
47:46
That type of shit determines the outcome of a
47:48
game. You know what I'm saying? So it's like...
47:50
Well like, you also get cases like Minnesota, right?
47:52
Like, you know, how healthy Carl Townes is, is
47:54
going to be a thing. And this
47:57
is where I'm nice to Carl. Karl
48:00
Townes is a better basketball player than Nas Reed. Play somebody
48:02
that can get in the background. What
48:04
he's saying is... But he's better player than Nas Reed,
48:06
period. And so you can find those numbers that say
48:08
that they are better with Nas Reed. But
48:11
if Karl Townes, if this is the year that he
48:13
steps up, which can happen, right? Right.
48:16
You want a guy that can get buckets in
48:18
the playoffs because the ability to create shots. Minnesota
48:20
only got Anthony Edwards really as a guy that's
48:22
like an elite shot creator. Right. Karl
48:25
gives you a chance at that. If he
48:27
gets healthy, right? He goes. Or
48:29
if he can't play in the numbers,
48:32
the on-off numbers carry out with Nas Reed,
48:34
maybe that little nuance can
48:36
affect what direction the West goes. Because in theory, if
48:38
Minnesota is better than they were last year, then they
48:40
can push Denver to six or seven. And
48:42
that's my shit. So like in theory... It's there, man.
48:46
It's there. It's there. I'm not. We
48:48
also know the other problem, which is, y'all can just go cook
48:50
Rudy. Yeah. He's gonna cook Rudy every
48:52
time. He's gonna cook Rudy. He's gonna put Rudy in
48:55
a D-month. That's a lot. That's
48:57
a lot of pressure for Ant
49:00
Edwards. Yes. My favorite player
49:02
on earth, by the way. I love him. But
49:04
that's a lot of pressure to
49:06
go out there and try to take
49:08
on a juggernaut like the Denver
49:10
Nuggets by yourself.
49:14
But I love the fact that he's up for it. He
49:16
may be one of the only ones that's up
49:19
for it to do it by himself. My last
49:21
one left, it feels like I know there's other
49:23
sociopathic type dudes out there. He's not even a
49:25
sociopath because he seems to do well with people.
49:28
But he want it. He really believes that he
49:30
can knock them off. He really
49:32
believes that... When you going up
49:34
against a juggernaut, man, it's... And I just don't
49:36
think people appreciate that that's what it is. It
49:39
is a legitimate... Look, if Eric Gordon
49:41
is your fourth best player, fourth
49:44
best player. That's what I'm saying, man. They
49:47
built that team to be Teflon,
49:49
bro. Like, yo, this guy goes down. Aight, this guy's gonna
49:51
slide in and we're gonna be fine. Plug and play. That's
49:54
it. Ugh, that player might
49:56
be good for 100 years because he doesn't jump. You know
49:58
what I'm saying? Like, he's dead. He
50:00
ain't running suicides bro. He
50:02
be running past them dudes down the floor. That's
50:05
how he chewed, cause he know when to turn it on.
50:07
He know when to sprint. He know when to go. He
50:11
know which way to go. He know how to
50:13
do that. I'm gonna ask you this as a
50:15
basketball player, cause I noticed this about Yo Kitch
50:17
and it's the most interesting thing is that he's
50:19
the first player I'd ever seen who realized that
50:21
after I've done the pump faking, you've gone past
50:23
me, I don't have to be in a hurry.
50:25
Like, oh, when let's man, I can slowly walk
50:27
into the lane. I had never seen anybody that
50:29
had that understanding of space and time. That's IQ.
50:32
That is just IQ, a feel for the game.
50:35
Like, I don't know where the fuck he got that from. Like,
50:37
that's hard to teach. You know what I mean? You just gotta
50:39
have a feel for the actual game
50:41
and the floor of the game to understand like, oh,
50:43
there's one less guy over here and I'm looking at
50:45
four guys in front of me. Yeah. I'm
50:48
gonna just pick this apart, right? So now what
50:50
you start doing is putting systems and play for
50:52
him to be able to work out of
50:55
that position up top of the key, upscreens,
50:57
backscreens, curl, cuts. You know what I mean?
50:59
I catch it, you just, and going to
51:01
just go into the back, high, low to
51:03
the love. Like, it's a lot of
51:05
shit that only he can play
51:08
that position like that. The damn shame
51:10
they gave him Anthony Randolph's number. Fuck!
51:17
No, no, no. Actually, no, the reason I
51:19
say that though, because I know the discussion
51:21
is always, Dan, they gave Yogi a number.
51:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they did. The
51:26
crazy part is that they gave it to Anthony Randolph.
51:28
Anthony Randolph, that's the fact. That's the point I'm making.
51:31
That's the crazy part. I know the underbelly of what
51:33
you say. Yeah, no, it's like,
51:35
if they had given it
51:37
to Yogi, way later, it would have been like, come on,
51:39
man, this is crazy. Because the idea of like, retiring New
51:41
Jersey is a no-brainer. Like, there's no, but when
51:43
I found out they had given it to Anthony
51:45
Randolph already, I was like, oh, this is bad.
51:48
Yeah, I keep trying to say that. The static
51:50
is with Anthony Randolph. Yeah. How is it? How
51:52
is it? How is it in my life? Why, why are
51:54
we on it? No, let me take it off. Let me
51:56
take what Anthony Randolph is. The dude that wants to jump
51:58
in the tile machine and come play into. days basketball because
52:00
he was just too skinny to play in.
52:03
He would play well in today. Because he
52:05
went over to Europe and was so cold.
52:07
Beach right hoping hoping hoping just
52:09
this raw look. Yeah, I'm here for all the
52:11
skinny dudes. You know what I'm saying? Like I would have
52:13
all come back in this day and time. I wish John
52:16
Henson could have stayed healthy. No, it would have been great.
52:18
Every single one of them. Copeland's not the Chris Copeland. He's
52:20
another skinny dude, man. He was balling at a couple of
52:22
years ago. We had no heroes when I was little. That's
52:24
the thing that people don't understand. We have no Kevin Durant
52:27
when I was little. Oh, yeah. We
52:30
remember, yeah, like Reggie Miller, but I mean, Reggie
52:32
was in the gym. No, see, that was the
52:34
other part, too. They were. It was they were
52:36
confident in a skinny. I
52:39
will also make this note, too. Before we get out
52:41
of here, people need to understand NBA. Skinny
52:43
is not quite as skinny as people think.
52:45
Oh, if you see a picture of me
52:47
standing next to Kevin Durant, you will not
52:49
be saying that Kevin Durant is skinny. No,
52:51
he's like, he's like 240 something pounds. He
52:55
just finished eight lots of pills. Look
52:58
at him. Now, I
53:00
have been wanting to pull off this epic
53:03
crossover for a long time. Like we've done
53:05
with 7 p.m. Is the
53:07
right time, man. But man, Mero, I'm proud of
53:09
you. Glad to see you. We do. I
53:12
appreciate you. Also, shout out to Melo, man. He
53:14
hit me with that left hand down. No, I
53:16
have to let him know. The lines were drawn
53:18
in the sand. You know, you got to do
53:20
it. I'm saying one time. I'm going to tell
53:23
you why Gary T. You also ain't going for
53:25
no left hand. Dap Anthony Edwards on the left.
53:28
I bet you tried to walk up to him. The others with
53:30
the left hand. I can. I can. I can. I can. I can. I
53:32
can't. I will never walk up to it. I want to be left
53:34
hand. That
53:38
as much as everybody thinks the left hand dap
53:40
is being disrespect. Now, one time in your life
53:42
has anybody ever tried to disrespect you by offering
53:44
left hand dap. It's a it's an
53:47
anecdotal tale, but it's never happened. So what we need
53:49
to do is start fighting people. We don't respect and
53:51
just roll up all would be like, you
53:54
know, that's why you do it. You just give them the weekend. like
54:00
that would be worse than the karate dap
54:07
you just give them the dead fish the
54:10
see that's that's the new generation handshake
54:13
right there they
54:15
don't look at you it's
54:18
a year I've
54:21
done the wrong thing because me I was like
54:23
yo it's 20 minutes what is going on like
54:26
no really
54:29
school looking at like they don't even look
54:31
at you in a gap you know the dat
54:33
master is going out of style and they're
54:36
not my handshake you over here it
54:38
yo all the team you
54:40
know they're too cool I don't
54:42
know what I would do with some 14 year
54:44
old didn't look at me when I yeah yeah
54:47
I'm over you stay the over they
54:52
would definitely talk I've got to I
54:55
want to bring sir back you know what I'm saying
54:57
we thought he was talking about this last time I
54:59
was here fuck this shit bad whatever happened to sir
55:01
I'm just crazy I've worked really hard to get to
55:03
where I am but I have earned search that when
55:05
he hit you with the uncle feel away bro yo
55:08
because they think they think it's cool yeah
55:10
I remember a maneuver day was got bad it said
55:12
that she didn't want to be called auntie and I
55:14
thought that she was being real disrespectful and like it's
55:16
like I think you'd be a real sensitive right seven
55:19
years later I got a few more years under
55:21
my belt and I'm like nah I feel like
55:23
oh is you respecting
55:29
your uncle is optional like
55:31
if he a good uncle you respect but otherwise
55:34
you might just kick it with a little weed
55:36
every now and then that's the way
55:38
that's the way you don't respect 20
55:42
special every battle of crime you
55:47
know how to how to go home going with
55:52
the ball you know let
55:54
me hold something let me know yeah you got
55:56
no because I heard that officer cute that's It's
56:00
been a school up there, big program. See, that's
56:02
awk. That's awk. They got boosted.
56:04
Even the uncle that you call a
56:06
nickname, you respect
56:08
more than the uncle you call awk. Like my uncle will,
56:10
but God rest his soul. We call him black, cause he
56:13
called everybody else black. We respect him black. Call him black
56:15
was not a sign of disrespect. But if I had called
56:17
him awk, black would have flipped. What? I
56:19
can't even get a second. He would have
56:21
called the black hand side. Black out. Black
56:23
out. Yeah, black out. Black was very much
56:25
so a kind that's not weakness. No, black.
56:27
I'm a sort of dude. Could
56:29
have been there. But fellas, I
56:32
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56:52
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