0:00

Get nasty and touch

0:02

your body, get

0:05

nasty and tell

0:07

your friend hands get

0:10

nasty, but don't

0:12

tell you mama. Rom

0:15

Burgundy is one

0:17

Batman Romberguny

0:25

podcast. Oh

0:30

yes, Oh I

0:32

wake up to that song every morning

0:35

and it really gives me a jolt. Hello. This is

0:37

Ron Burgundy and welcome once again to

0:39

the Ron Burgundy Podcast. Carolina. How

0:41

are you doing today? I'm good?

0:44

Thanks for asking? Are you're just good

0:47

or great? I'm good?

0:49

Why not great? Because I'm great?

0:52

Guess what I did yesterday? I don't

0:54

know what did you do? I got my back waxed.

0:58

Now, what would you say it to bookled? Waxing

1:01

would cost I

1:03

mean you should know, right, I don't being

1:06

a lady at all. Okay, well, I guess if

1:08

you go to a decent spot, it will

1:10

cost you anywhere. I'm

1:12

guessing bingo.

1:16

I got my waxing done for four dollars,

1:19

my entire back for

1:21

four measly bucks. Okay,

1:23

Oh you know what that makes sense? Um?

1:25

Because you're bleeding a little bit through the back of your

1:28

shirt. That means it was a good waxing. They

1:30

got the entire hair follicle. If

1:32

you say I know so, run

1:35

is how long has it been bleeding? It's

1:37

been bleeding all night long. Okay, you shouldn't

1:39

go cheap on waxing. I had to throw my sheets

1:41

out my bed. Oh my god. Yeah,

1:44

but listen, don't lecture me on my body. It's

1:46

my body, I know. But if you can afford

1:48

a healthier and safe waxing

1:50

salon for your information, this wasn't

1:52

a salon. It was an auto collision

1:55

repair shop slash bird

1:57

breeder. So they're now

2:01

where was I? All right? One

2:03

of the great things about this podcast,

2:06

which sets it apart from three or four

2:08

other podcasts out there, On

2:10

this show, it's a chance for two American

2:13

icons to chat one on one with each

2:15

other, candidly American.

2:18

No hold on, I'm not done. To call

2:20

my next guest in American Icon would actually

2:23

be an understatement. She began

2:25

her show business career when she was only

2:28

eleven months old as a

2:30

model for Ivory Soap. Can you imagine

2:32

that eleven months old? It's

2:34

incredible. This blatant disregard

2:37

for child labor laws catapulted her

2:39

and to start him. At twelve, she

2:41

starred in the breakout film Pretty

2:44

Baby, directed by Lewis Malley,

2:46

it's actually Louis mal You're mispronouncing

2:49

it, are you sure? Oh? Because

2:51

look at this that reads If you look there,

2:54

that reads Louis Malley. To me,

2:56

how would you pronounce this? I'm

2:58

actually I'm pretty sure it's Gluie

3:00

maw He's an acclaimed French filmmaker. Actually

3:03

is he? Well, did he direct any of the Cannonball

3:05

Run movies? No, but I

3:07

can fact check that. See if Lewis

3:10

malle directed any Cannonball Run movies?

3:13

Can you do that? Caroline? Okay, I'm

3:15

in the middle of my guest introduction. It's

3:18

supposed to be a big build up to a discussion between

3:20

two American icons, and you've you've really

3:22

disrupted the flow. So can I finish

3:24

this? Go ahead? Okay.

3:27

She was the youngest fashion model to ever appear

3:30

on the cover of Voge, a

3:32

regular at famed New York discotheque

3:35

Studio fifty four, and then, for some

3:37

crazy reason, she decided to leave

3:39

all that fun and excitement of modeling

3:41

and starring in movies to attend Princeton

3:44

University. Wow, is this a typo?

3:46

Is this really? Okay? This

3:49

is not a move I would have made. No way. Well,

3:51

we'll have to talk about that anyway. She's

3:53

an absolute legend, you know her from

3:55

everything from the Blue Lagoon to

3:58

Suddenly Susan. It is my extreme emnor

4:01

to Welcome to the Ron Burgundy Podcast,

4:03

the iconic Brookshields.

4:05

But first let's take a commercial

4:08

break

4:20

and we are back Ron Burgundy Podcast.

4:23

As I mentioned before, what an exciting

4:25

episode we are with an

4:28

icon Brookshields. Brooke, how

4:30

are you today? Thanks for joining us. Oh,

4:32

I'm fine. Thank you so much for inviting me.

4:34

Brooke. I'm sorry if you hold on for a second,

4:36

I need to do a live commercial read. Um.

4:39

I know you you just got on the phone, but I

4:41

just have to kind of take care of business here. Squatty

4:44

potty. It's that little

4:46

stool you put in your bathroom to make sure

4:48

you're using the toilet correctly when you're

4:50

doing a number two. Okay, you

4:52

know, Caroline, I don't want to have to read this ad right

4:55

now, not with brook Shields online. Can

4:57

we can we just do this later? Absolutely

4:59

could have read it. Leader. That was the decision

5:01

you just made on your own. What's done is done? Uh,

5:04

Brookshields. Let me just

5:06

ask you this about your name, Brooke. Is

5:09

it short for Brookline, Massachusetts. It's

5:12

actually not, but um

5:15

my, mom, uh. She

5:17

liked a photograph and the photographer

5:20

was named Christian

5:23

Brooks, I think, and so she liked the

5:25

name brook and she So you're not

5:27

let's put this to rest. You're not from Brookline,

5:29

Massachusetts. I'm

5:32

not. I'm from where were you

5:34

born? Born and raised in Manhattan? Oh?

5:36

Okay, well, then who am I thinking? Was born

5:39

in Brookline, Massachusetts. That's an American

5:41

icon. Oh, I you

5:43

know who I'm thinking of. It's

5:46

it's Michael Dukakus. Never

5:48

mind. Oh you know I went

5:50

to school with Andrea his daughter.

5:53

Oh my gosh, were you so nervous

5:55

around Andrew all the time because her father

5:57

was Michael Dukakis an American icon?

6:00

You know what? She's really really

6:02

bright and so her I'm sure. I'm

6:05

sure. I As a

6:07

point, I try to not hang out

6:10

with people who are smarter than me because

6:12

I get sweaty palms and it

6:15

can be intimidating. It's formidable, it's

6:18

more formidable. It's a good

6:20

word. If you use that word with smart people,

6:23

I think, well, thank you, see Carolina, I am Brooke

6:25

thinks I'm smart. Ron wrote formidable

6:28

down the pad and it's been waiting to use it all day.

6:30

Good it's the word a day. Maybe you should

6:32

do a word every day. I wrote formidable,

6:35

and then right next the word I'm going to use tomorrow

6:38

is coxyx, which is

6:40

the medical term for your

6:42

tailbone. That would be

6:44

more appropriate for the potty day.

6:46

That's true, Brooke. You've

6:48

had such an impressive career and you

6:50

truly are an American. I kond of and it feels

6:53

like it's impossible that we'll have time

6:55

to cover everything. So forgive

6:57

me if I ask you about some of the things you've talked

7:00

about a zillion times before. Okay,

7:02

I think people will kill me if I

7:04

am interviewing Brookshields and

7:07

I didn't ask you about the big stuff. So

7:09

let's get right into it, all right.

7:12

Tell me about your two thousand thirteen

7:14

guest appearance on the ABC sitcom

7:17

Super Fun Night. Uh,

7:20

well, I'm sure that's

7:22

the first thing people come up to you and they say, Super

7:24

Fun Night. I can't go through

7:26

a week without being It's

7:29

become a cult, Broke.

7:32

I want to talk about modeling. Um.

7:35

I think there's a huge misconception that you

7:37

know modeling is easy but I

7:40

know from experience it's actually very

7:42

hard work. And you

7:44

started so young. Do you remember your first big

7:48

modeling gig where you really felt

7:50

like, WHOA, I am a model? Um?

7:53

I remember getting

7:55

a cover try

7:59

Yes seventeen magazine and

8:01

that I was so excited about

8:03

it and I didn't get it and

8:06

it was crushing. It was

8:08

crushing to me. And within

8:11

the next year or so, I

8:13

then finally got the cover and

8:15

I remember thinking, I'm

8:18

a I'm the real deal. I've

8:21

been doing catalogs. It was my first

8:23

sort of major you were part of the club, you

8:25

were you would invited to the

8:27

party. I'll tell you the first

8:30

time I felt like a model of And of

8:32

course I've been. I've been doing some male modeling over the

8:34

years, but the first big one for

8:36

me had to be in nineteen and

8:39

I did a print campaign for Virginia Slims

8:42

the cigarettes. Yes, and

8:45

I'm sure you're wondering, excuse me, Ron Burgundy. It

8:47

was in an advertisement for Ladies

8:49

cigarettes. Yes, I was, but

8:51

you were ahead of your time and was ahead

8:53

of my time. I love the product too. They

8:56

were sexy, definitely as

8:58

a sexy approach, so it seems

9:01

very appropriate you know what, I really appreciate

9:03

that because I used to walk around

9:05

and smoke, you know, the small, thin,

9:08

little Virginia slims, and people

9:10

would give me a lot of flak. But

9:12

I don't necessarily need or

9:14

needed back then a full cigarette. And

9:17

clearly comfortable in your masculinity. Well

9:19

that's that's exactly right, and thank you for

9:21

for recognizing that. And I also, I

9:24

mean, I felt a responsibility to do it

9:26

as a journalist. So I ask

9:28

you, Brooke, are you comfortable with your femininity?

9:30

Femininity? How do you say it? You

9:33

got femininity? I

9:37

have become much more so since

9:41

since having children. Actually, prior

9:45

to kids, I think

9:47

just anything. Femininity

9:50

was also synonymous with um

9:53

beauty to me, and for

9:55

a long time I sort of didn't

9:57

want to pay attention to the

10:00

physical, to anything external,

10:03

anything sort of and part of being

10:05

feminine was an external

10:07

sort of expression of all that. And it wasn't

10:10

until I mean really until

10:12

I got pregnant and I started feeling

10:16

that sense of female

10:18

I don't know, power, and then the femininity

10:21

sort of grew out of that because I used

10:23

to think, oh, I had to be the strong,

10:26

tough one, so I was always you

10:28

know, the femininity was always

10:30

also synonymous with frail and petite

10:33

and dainty and waif like. And

10:35

I've never been those things, wearing white

10:37

lace gloves and carrying a parasol out

10:40

in the summertime. Absolutely,

10:42

And so that was it took me a while to sort

10:44

of appreciate how

10:47

badass femininity can be. You're

10:49

not going to get an argument from me. I mean, you

10:52

know, some say that I

10:55

exude toxic amounts

10:57

of masculinity, but I

10:59

also have a feminine side, and I think every man does

11:01

and they shouldn't be afraid to embrace

11:04

it. Do you agree? I totally agree.

11:06

In fact, I think it just highlights

11:10

the masculinity in the right way. I think

11:12

when they work in conjunction with each

11:14

other, I think that's the sexiest. Wow.

11:19

I've started wearing lipstick once

11:22

a week just to try it out.

11:25

You carry yourself then, totally totally

11:27

do you stand a little taller? Um

11:31

doing a seat on the

11:33

city bus? Sorry? Go ahead,

11:35

it chose a different side to people. Sorry interrupted

11:38

you? Um, no, no, I

11:40

try not to do that again, please, I

11:43

won't. Okay, I'm

11:45

doing a show called a pilot.

11:48

We're doing a pilot called glamorous, and it's

11:50

all about the makeup world, and it's all

11:52

about what we were talking about, this sort

11:54

of masculine feminine and this celebration

11:56

and kind of embracing it, and it's so

11:59

refreshing. So this

12:01

is full circle. This is full circle here.

12:04

Yep, we have to we

12:07

have to talk about your classic Calvin Klein

12:09

Jenes commercials. I mean, they are, let's

12:12

face it, they are part of American

12:15

pop cultural history.

12:17

And I mean, how how

12:20

many years later and we're still talking about

12:22

them specifically because I'm

12:24

bringing them up. And but

12:27

you said, and I quote unless you want to say

12:29

it. Um, you said,

12:31

you want to know what comes between me and my Calvin's.

12:34

And then you took a pause and said nothing. And

12:36

my question is what did you mean by that? Well,

12:40

first of all, you are one of the first people

12:42

to properly quote

12:45

it. What do people usually says? They

12:48

have always said, nothing comes between

12:50

me and my Calvin's. Now, I'm sure

12:52

I was probably really naive at that

12:55

age anyway, But the idea

12:57

of the whole series of commercials was that

13:00

each sentence, each saying,

13:02

had a double meaning to it. So

13:05

there was this hoop lab about it. And they pulled

13:07

the commercial because they

13:10

said it meant I wasn't wearing any underwear or

13:13

they started playing with the spelling get

13:15

out of the gutter. Yeah,

13:18

so it was. I thought it was pathetic.

13:21

And yet the controversy surrounding

13:23

it and the novelty of

13:25

their approach and advertising is why

13:28

when the new UM creative director,

13:31

Raf Simmons, who's now left, but when he came

13:33

on, he brought back the

13:37

image that was used in

13:39

the in those ads because it became

13:41

like this pop pop icon e Like

13:44

you said, the iconography of it was brought

13:46

sort of into the hip hop world. Yeah, I have a I

13:48

have a T shirt with your image on

13:50

it. It's kind of cool.

13:53

I mean I had to buy mine. I

13:55

had to buy. I had to It

13:58

wasn't cheap. I was like, can't you guys give you went?

14:00

Wow, you had to buy your own T shirt

14:02

of yourself? Mm

14:05

hmm. How much was it one

14:08

twenty or something like that? Definitely

14:12

that's a rip, right, you know

14:14

that nothing's free. Well, you just can't

14:16

ever wear it or wash it. I

14:18

know. I'm afraid. What

14:21

did anyone ever try to steal your Calvin Klein

14:23

jeans? No? Um,

14:25

but I've just found the original pears.

14:28

I had three of them.

14:31

My mom kept everything, and I

14:33

recently was going through a warehouse of

14:36

stuff, literally, and she

14:38

had this whole Calvin.

14:43

I've kept every single mustache

14:45

comb I've ever owned, just in

14:47

case or

14:50

some of them really pretty like that might be really pretty.

14:52

Some of them are bejeweled, some

14:54

of them are Sadly, I have to

14:56

admit some. A lot of them are made of ivory.

14:59

I've contributed to the ivory ivory

15:01

trade. That's

15:03

not Maybe it wasn't endangered. Then maybe

15:06

it wasn't. Let's just say that. And let's

15:08

just say I didn't go hunt elephants

15:10

too so that I could get the tusks

15:12

to make my own mustache comb.

15:15

No, let's say that didn't happen, because it didn't

15:17

say it didn't. And if I was in a court of law, let's

15:21

get off this topic. Um.

15:23

You know one time I had a pair

15:25

of jeans stolen from me and they

15:28

weren't Calvin's. They were Lee

15:30

Jeans, also a

15:32

good brand. Levi's

15:34

lead the Wrangler. Those are the originals.

15:37

Yeah, I had an incident with a rottweiler

15:40

tried to steal jeans from me. Were

15:43

they on you? They were on my person?

15:46

Yes? Where was this?

15:49

This was at the Pasadenas

15:51

Rose Bowl swap meat

15:54

in the Rottweiler section. Ah

15:58

did he he? Or she? Doesn't

16:00

matter? Yeah, I don't know. It was a he. There was

16:02

a big old set of balls on that one. He

16:05

was super charged with testosterone sensing

16:08

masculine yep. And we had a show down.

16:10

I you know what, I started the fight. This

16:13

is so much about the toxic masculine anywhere.

16:16

Just so I went to the rott Wilder section

16:18

of the Rose Bowl swap meat, and

16:20

I just said, who wants a piece of me? I

16:23

just was feeling a bit randy that

16:25

day. Rott Wilder is

16:27

an explosive, vicious animal.

16:30

Beautiful, Yes, And

16:33

you know, while the rottwater was

16:35

pinning me down and ripping my lee jeans

16:37

to shreds, I remember

16:40

thinking I stopped

16:42

screaming and remember thinking this is a gorgeous

16:44

animal, the power of the beauty,

16:46

the majesty, and all went slow.

16:49

Yeah, it all went slow. It's that fight or

16:51

flight and exactly everything

16:53

slowed down. Brook. Let me ask

16:55

you this, Let me let me I'm gonna radically

16:57

change subjects here or maybe not so

17:00

because you probably wore your your

17:02

Calvin clients to this place. Do

17:04

you have any great memories of Studio fifty

17:06

four. I have the

17:09

best memories from Studio fifty Um.

17:12

I first went there with Steve Ruebel

17:14

and Calvin Klein. Actually that

17:19

guy didn't like me. Yeah,

17:21

you never let me in. No, was

17:24

he manning the door? Yeah, he was manning

17:26

the door. He said, Ron Burgundy, I don't like you.

17:28

I will never let you in my nightclub. Oh

17:32

he's probably just jealous. Obviously

17:34

that never happened to you. No, And

17:36

I never got subjected to the picking

17:39

process. And

17:42

I also always went really

17:44

early. My mom would let

17:46

me go, but we would have to I'd

17:49

have to go home because I had school the next It wasn't

17:51

like an early bird special. Yeah,

17:54

but I really all I wanted to do was dance.

17:56

Would you get there? What? PM?

17:59

No, they didn't open the doors until later,

18:01

so it was like eight. Like

18:03

if there was an event, I could get there right

18:06

on time and then dance a

18:08

few hours. I would just go directly

18:10

to the dance floor and

18:13

and then I'd gone home. I mean I And the

18:15

interesting thing was I was never offered

18:18

any drugs. I was. It

18:20

was almost as if

18:22

they were all on protection

18:25

duty or something from me, Like I was like

18:27

the mascot. I was sort of offs

18:30

for you. They were. I mean it was

18:33

it was the late seventies, early eighties,

18:35

and it was crazy,

18:37

but I felt I was protected.

18:39

And you know, it's interesting. There's a room

18:42

that they call the it's on the fourth

18:44

floor, and

18:46

yeah, I think it was. It was some druggy

18:49

room or some layer of some kind.

18:51

And I never obviously never went

18:53

past the dance floor. And then when

18:55

I did Cabaret on Broadway,

18:58

we did it at Studio fifty four,

19:00

and my dressing room was that actual

19:03

room on the floor in that room, and

19:05

it was haunted. Haunted,

19:08

No, no, And it wasn't haunted,

19:11

but it was. It actually had a

19:13

good energy to it. You hung

19:15

out, run, you had a club in New York though that

19:17

you frequented. Well, I would go to the you

19:20

know, like I said, I couldn't get into Studio fifty

19:22

four, so I went to a place called Studio

19:24

fifty two and it

19:27

was a couple of blocks down, and you know, it

19:29

wasn't the same crowd. I mean, I hung out with like

19:31

Ed Cotch and a

19:33

couple of the couple of guys from shan on a. You

19:37

know it was all right, Um,

19:39

you didn't have to get there early because it was never

19:42

full. He liked dancing.

19:45

Ed Ed could really cut a rug.

19:48

He loved it. But I gotta be honest,

19:50

My pride was hurt that I never got in. And this

19:52

happened to me right in front of Grace Jones

19:55

and she laughed at me. But

19:58

and I've never told this story. But I got

20:00

back at the studio fifty four people. I

20:02

called some buddies in the I R

20:04

S. And I just made up a bunch of wild

20:06

stories and I told them, you know what, go They've

20:09

got cash hidden in the ceiling and a

20:11

safe, you know, filled with like three

20:13

hundred ludes in it. And I just, you

20:15

know, I made up a bunch of crazy lives and

20:19

a reason for the demise. Well, and then it

20:21

turned out to actually be true. So

20:25

how did you even know? I don't know. I don't It was

20:27

just a wild swing and I happened to be

20:30

I happen to be so right, And I

20:33

don't know. I've mixed emotions about that. No,

20:35

I probably shouldn't have told that story. Well,

20:38

no, I won't. I mean, it's what's done. It's done.

20:40

But it also you know, you sort

20:42

of go like, oh my god, that was an institution and

20:44

you brought it down. I brought it down. I did,

20:47

ye, which you know it was the

20:49

right thing. I mean, were you know

20:51

it was going to run its course eventually, but

20:53

I brought it down prematurely. Pery could had another

20:55

thirty years. But maybe that was good. Maybe

20:57

it's like it's like, you know, when

21:00

these people die really early,

21:02

they get to thank you because I've had

21:04

some sleepless nights over my behavior. But now

21:07

you're you're easing my conscience. Yeah.

21:10

I never am not good with regret. Yeah,

21:12

I don't have time for regret. I'm

21:15

just like Mary J. Blige, No

21:17

drama, right y, that's

21:20

what you always say. So

21:22

you're at the height of your celebrity, You're on magazine

21:24

covers, you're starring in movies, and

21:27

and then you went to college.

21:30

Why because

21:34

I had always wanted to

21:36

go and it was a good It was a

21:38

good school. To Princeton. That's like

21:40

a really hard school. It's a very

21:42

hard So you

21:45

do all that work, you're already

21:47

rich, and famous, which you

21:49

know, which I think we all know fulfills

21:51

absolutely everything in a person's life. What

21:54

what was missing for Brookshields that you

21:56

would make such a crazy decision to

21:58

attend college with more boring people

22:01

like I just can't imagine it. Um,

22:04

I think I had the

22:07

the vision and the sort of foresight to

22:09

know. Now, maybe because I had been

22:11

working for so many decades by that

22:13

point, there's

22:16

a sense of it wasn't something I was striving

22:18

for, something I had done all my life,

22:20

so it was a lot as much I just assumed

22:23

I would always continue it, but

22:26

I also knew the

22:28

way the industry breaks

22:31

you down, the way it tries to attack

22:33

you for everything. And now,

22:35

I mean, I don't even think I could handle it if

22:38

now with social media. But the

22:40

idea of attaining

22:43

something that could not be taken away

22:45

from you and was arguably

22:47

threatening to people was

22:50

really exciting to me. And

22:52

four years of just

22:55

being in one environment and

22:58

this beautiful setting, I mean, I had it. There

23:01

was a dream quality

23:03

to it for me. You know, I wanted I

23:06

wanted to go to a old IVY

23:08

League college, the IVY

23:10

on the walls and you know, football games and

23:12

so there was definitely in the heart of Texas,

23:14

right Ivy, mostly in the southwest,

23:17

is that correct? Actually Swiss?

23:22

Yeah, this was in Princess in Baltimore,

23:25

Jersey, New Jersey. Yeah.

23:28

I noticed though my first UM press

23:30

conference after I had been at

23:33

school for a semester. They didn't

23:35

like me having more articulate answers.

23:37

Oh, very threatened. They

23:40

were threatened. They sort of wanted little

23:43

Brook again, and they

23:45

wanted to catch me in things. And it

23:48

was it was fun to sort of play around

23:51

with them in a way, A

23:53

very empowering time for you, Sanctuary,

23:56

it was, and it was fun. Do

23:59

you have I want to say? And this is a serious

24:01

question when someone's big, Well, my questions

24:04

have been serious, I know, but I'm

24:06

yeah, of course, I just um

24:09

no. But just when you phrase it like that, it makes

24:12

like I stayed up all night

24:14

to do this research. Anyway, go ahead,

24:16

Carolina, Okay. Do you ever want

24:18

to say to someone when they're

24:20

being they're undermining you, or

24:23

just do you ever want to just say you,

24:26

I went to Princeton. Um,

24:30

you didn't go to school, But I

24:33

would say that if she went to a real hole.

24:35

Sarah Lawrence, So,

24:37

Sarah Lawrence is not. Oh

24:40

okay, well I'm not hearing good things lately.

24:42

No, it's a very very good school. Sorry,

24:45

go ahead, broke, go ahead. Um

24:48

No. You know what's even better is just

24:50

thinking that and then

24:53

not reducing yourself to their

24:55

level. You're so much

24:58

more emotionally mature, and I

25:00

am, because I would just I

25:02

would hammer people with that as

25:04

soon as I walked into the door. Overtly.

25:07

I won't ever throw

25:09

it in someone's face because I think by doing that

25:11

you've weakened your position,

25:14

because you've gotten petty. But

25:16

you could always wear a jacket and then if they're being rude,

25:19

un zip it and you have a Princeton shirt under

25:21

yes, right, or like scratch

25:23

your scratch society of your face, but

25:26

have your class ring showing a

25:29

lot, have the fight song

25:31

queued up on your cellular device

25:33

ready to play at any time, and

25:35

say, oh, sorry, that's just my school, that's

25:38

just the theme song. Wow,

25:41

I wish I had gone to college. You

25:44

didn't. You didn't go to well, you've

25:46

taken some online course that took some online Phoenix

25:48

University. Yes, before

25:50

they were located in Phoenix. Oh

25:53

okay, So can

25:55

we talk about the Brookshields Timeless collection

25:57

for a moment you're doing that with with QVC

26:00

and and yes, I'm just saying,

26:02

you know, maybe you could introduce me to

26:05

some of the folks at QVC because I'd

26:07

like to launch my own fashion

26:10

line, but they're not returning my calls.

26:12

Ron has been doing some sketches on scrap

26:15

paper, kind of just pants

26:18

and pants. It's it's it's

26:20

actually a line of formal

26:22

wear for infants. Um

26:24

a lot of tuxes and ball gowns. Oh,

26:28

there's some very room entering sketches. I

26:30

mean it makes the met Ball look like an episode

26:32

of he Haw, you know, so wow.

26:36

You know what's good about that is that, especially

26:38

if the kids can't walk, you

26:40

don't have to worry about shoes,

26:43

and that sometimes can make or break an

26:45

entire outfit. Thank you, Broke, thank

26:47

you. I can introduce you to

26:50

some of the creative team. They are a give

26:52

me names right now? Can you give me names

26:55

and phone numbers right now? They're

26:59

in Philly. I'll um, I'll

27:01

put you in touch with the right people. I think that it's

27:03

a really amazing team

27:05

of people. So why won't they get

27:07

back to me. You've just been

27:09

mailing them in with I

27:11

mean, maybe we should just start getting on the

27:13

internet more. You know what,

27:14

I'm try

27:17

to sell a deep fryar or a panini

27:19

oven or something like that, because maybe the fashion

27:21

game is not is not in me. It's

27:23

only baby clothes or baby

27:26

clothes or bust. You

27:29

did say ballgowns, but baby ballgowns,

27:31

baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns. Maybe

27:34

petwear? What about pet wear? Pet wear?

27:36

Okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on here, let

27:39

me write this down. Pet war. I

27:41

could see that ron Burgundy pet wear. It

27:44

has a nice If

27:46

you can get me in with the QBC folks,

27:48

that would just and I won't expect

27:51

anything other than just a conversation, so

27:53

Brook, that would be hugely helpful. Absolutely,

27:57

And I think if you started with pets, there's

27:59

such a uh, it doesn't matter masculine,

28:02

feminine, you know, it's they're such a big, big

28:04

audience. Well, of course, my best friend

28:06

is my dog Baxter, so I know everything

28:08

about Yes, Brooke,

28:11

let me. You've been such a mental health advocate

28:14

over the years, and I know at times it's it's been

28:16

very difficult, both personally and

28:18

publicly, and I just want to take a moment to commend

28:21

you for your bravery with that. But

28:23

I'd also like to ask you if you have a number of a therapist.

28:26

Um, it's not for me, it's for Carolina. Uh,

28:33

well that's a very personal Well I'm trying to help you,

28:35

Carolina, I really think you should see someone. It's

28:38

it's just sometimes it's like you're trying to undermine

28:40

me or sabotage the work I'm doing on the show.

28:42

And I think I think you should talk to a professional,

28:45

the professional recommended by Brookshields.

28:48

Run. How am I trying to sabotage you? That seems

28:50

so weird and paranoid. Maybe you

28:52

should see a therapist And that's

28:55

ridiculous, that's ridiculous. Or maybe or

28:57

what about like a marriage counselor

28:59

but for people that have to work so closely

29:02

to each other, you know, maybe

29:04

you both some stuff

29:07

off your chest about the other person, but in a safe

29:10

and I'll stay for the first five minutes check it out,

29:13

and then I'll come back for the last five I

29:16

see what you can come in. I

29:18

mean I can mediate, but Brooke,

29:21

you would mediate a counseling session between

29:23

us, that would be I would

29:26

absolutely I did, but I told you I had a Well it's a minor

29:29

in psych But you know what, why don't

29:31

when we're in Philly together. Well,

29:34

they have these quiet rooms. Perfect,

29:36

have these quiet rooms at QBC because you usually

29:38

have to sometimes stay there all

29:41

night because it runs QBC

29:43

runs seven. Um, but

29:45

they have these quiet rooms, almost like nap

29:48

rooms in a hospital or something, and we could probably

29:51

use one of those rooms. Perfect.

29:53

I think that would work great. But once

29:55

again, just as long as we know the expectation

29:58

level of

30:00

me coming in for the first

30:02

five minutes. If I like it, I'll stay. Maybe

30:05

we'll just both commit to staying. Well,

30:08

if I get on QVC, I'll totally

30:10

commit. Yeah, well

30:12

you've you've truly done it all. Brooke, Um,

30:15

I mean Brookshields, much like Ron Burgundy

30:18

is a household name. You've met every

30:20

celebrity there is to meet. Is there anyone

30:23

you you would still like to meet? Like,

30:26

let me guess, would you like to meet the guys

30:28

from that band who sing the song take Me to Church?

30:31

I would love that I play that all the

30:33

time. Take me to church. I'll worship

30:36

you like a dog at the shine of

30:38

your lives. You know that those guys. Yes,

30:42

I'd love to meet that guy. I get kitty

30:45

when I meet famous

30:47

people. Oh I My

30:49

life is dedicated in the pursuit

30:52

of meeting famous people. Ron actually

30:54

recently has been just going to l a X Airport

30:57

and just hanging down. I

30:59

followed the MZ guys and just stay

31:01

on their shoulders. So smart, and

31:03

I'm just like, who do we got coming in today?

31:07

Yeah? I like meeting famous people. I mean, I

31:09

think it's just I still get star struck. I

31:12

mean I was like that since I was a little kid.

31:14

The most star struck I ever

31:17

got was when

31:19

I met Nick Nulty.

31:22

That was your most I was weak

31:24

in the knees and

31:27

I just I didn't know what to say. I couldn't even say

31:29

anything. I just gave

31:31

him a bear hug, give him a bear hug,

31:34

and and I just I'm

31:38

so proud of you. It's

31:41

so unsettling. Are

31:44

you mistaken for anybody ever? Uh?

31:48

There have been a couple periods

31:50

of time where I haven't had a mustache, very

31:52

rare, and I've been mistaken

31:54

for Rachel Maddow. Umh.

31:59

So other than that, Nope,

32:01

that's good old RB in the house.

32:04

You're so iconically

32:07

you know, recognizable then, and that's what we share,

32:10

that's our common bond. The

32:13

reference is often like they'll

32:15

say, well, you know Brookshields,

32:18

ron Burgner, they're both like one word kind of in

32:20

the same sentence. Yes, it's

32:22

nice to not be alone. Actually, I mean it's for

32:24

a while. That was really isolating to me growing

32:27

up. But finding

32:29

someone that's akin to an understanding

32:33

what it's like it is

32:35

comforting. Brookshields.

32:38

We cannot thank you enough for

32:41

visiting us today on the podcast. It has been

32:43

an absolute treat. Thank

32:46

you for spending the time with us. Thank

32:48

you for all your insight and views on

32:51

life and your career, and it's been truly

32:53

fascinating. Thank you very much.

32:55

Well, I will get those numbers to you as soon as I that

32:57

would be great. And and for our listeners

33:00

if you haven't seen it, check out the episode of Super

33:02

Fun Night featuring brook Shields. She's

33:04

done so much in her career, but

33:07

she was a guest star on that show and she was she

33:09

was terrific. And yes, if you could get me

33:11

the the therapist referral for Carolina,

33:14

that would be great. I'll

33:17

get a couple. Thank you, Brooke. Thank

33:19

you. We really appreciate it, and

33:21

we'll be right back with more on

33:24

the Ron Burgundy Podcast right

33:26

after this. Welcome

33:38

back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. This

33:40

is Ron Burgundy along with Carolina. Here

33:43

are my final thoughts. Today.

33:46

We talked to Canada's Brookshields

33:49

class act through and through and

33:51

the one thing that was remarkable to me is

33:54

her humility and grace, something

33:57

I wish I had more of. If

34:00

we could bottle that class and grace

34:02

and dignity and give nine to

34:05

our world leaders and the other

34:07

three percent to Carolina, I

34:09

guarantee we would solve the

34:11

world's problems. So

34:14

of the Donald Trump's and the Kim Jungens

34:18

and the Alexander Putin's out there, if

34:20

you happen to be listening, try

34:23

to handle yourself like Brookshields, and

34:26

you might just might save

34:30

the world. This

34:32

is Ron Burgundy. Until next time, don't

34:35

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