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Hey guys it's me Alex

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I'm with my wife and her boyfriend Don Terrese we

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just phoned out we're pregnant Don

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Terrese is the father and we're here to do the gender

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reveal so twist it honey

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What is purple? Let me

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see baby's non-binary! Oh! Oh!

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Dave Rubin

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back in the free

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state of Florida.

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And

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I have to tell you, although I did enjoy

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our three days in DC, and

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obviously we'll recap a little bit of

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that today. It was just so good landing

0:44

in Florida. Like as the plane, when they're

0:47

like, the descent has begun, I actually

0:49

become Matthew McConaughey

0:51

in Interstellar. Remember that moment in Interstellar

0:54

when he's watching all of the videos that he's missed

0:56

over the years, when he's on that journey

0:59

into space and time and everything's bending

1:01

around him and he's seeing his children grow

1:03

up and all of these things happen in life and

1:05

his father-in-law passes away and he's

1:08

crying tears of joy at his

1:10

face. That's me landing in Florida

1:12

every single time. I am so happy

1:14

to be back here amongst the joyous

1:17

free people. We did have a great three days

1:19

in

1:20

DC. I mean, it was

1:23

jam packed. I wanna

1:25

just go through quickly before we get to the show today,

1:28

the list of people that we interviewed and a little

1:30

bit sort of behind the scenes of what

1:32

it goes into doing, a

1:34

three day jaunt in DC that

1:37

like what we did because we

1:39

tried. We really tried our best to

1:41

get people from across the aisle.

1:43

And alas, it didn't quite

1:46

work out that way. Although we did get

1:48

plenty of Republicans who have diverging opinions

1:50

on a series of things, which actually happens

1:52

in the Republican Party, not so much in

1:54

the Democrat Party. But just real quick,

1:57

the list of people I sat down with Dan

1:59

Crenshaw. from Texas, Ron

2:01

Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, obviously

2:03

Matt Gaetz, Congressman from Florida, Lauren

2:05

Boebert, Congresswoman from Colorado,

2:08

McCarthy, Kevin McCarthy, who obviously now Congressman

2:12

from California, but he's the Speaker of the House, Senator

2:14

J.D. Vance, Congressman Jim Jordan, Congressman

2:17

Byron Donalds, Congresswoman Marjorie

2:19

Taylor Green, and we got to clean up a lot

2:21

of sort of the rumors and stuff around her. My

2:23

own Congresswoman, it was the first time I ever

2:25

met her, and I absolutely love this

2:28

woman. It was just a serious joy.

2:30

You probably don't even know her name. She hasn't sort

2:32

of gone nationally yet, but I hope this helps amplify

2:35

her a little bit. Maria Salazar, she was just wonderful.

2:37

We did a live show yesterday at noon that you

2:39

may have seen with Senator Ted Cruz,

2:42

and then we finished up yesterday with Chip

2:44

Roy from Texas and Thomas Massey from

2:46

Kentucky.

2:47

Now, as I said, we did not

2:49

get any Democrats. I wanna be clear, we reached

2:51

out to over a dozen Democrats. For

2:54

the first two days, nobody even responded.

2:57

Now every Republican that we reached out to

3:00

at least responded. We were actually

3:02

supposed to have two other Republicans that we were gonna

3:04

sit down with. We were gonna sit down with Senator

3:06

Marcia Blackburn from Tennessee, but then

3:09

obviously there was this horrific shooting which we'll be

3:11

covering a little bit today. So she didn't come to

3:13

DC, she was back home in Tennessee. And

3:15

then we were also supposed to sit down with Senator Rand

3:17

Paul from Kentucky,

3:19

but in a like

3:20

beyond horrific incident, one

3:23

of his staffers was stabbed, fatally

3:25

wounded, not fatally wounded. It was

3:27

seriously wounded though. He was stabbed multiple times.

3:31

From what they can tell, it was completely random. It had

3:33

nothing to do with him, Rand Paul himself

3:35

or the guy's job. Sounds like the guy will

3:37

be okay, but obviously Rand Paul had to cancel

3:40

on that. On the Democrat side,

3:43

for the first two days, nobody

3:45

responded to us. Then finally,

3:48

believe it or not, Ilhan Omar's

3:50

people said, we'll get back to you.

3:52

They never got back to us.

3:53

And Rashida Tlaib's people just

3:56

gave us a no. And you know me, I like to give credit

3:58

where credit is due. I'll take. You've

4:01

told me something. And by the way, they don't owe

4:03

me anything. We gave them, you know, a week's notice,

4:05

or sometimes it may have been two or three weeks in some cases.

4:08

Some of them were somewhat last minute, but the Congress is in session.

4:11

These guys, they're politicians. They don't have that much to

4:13

do, so you'd think they'd want to be interviewed by people. I'm not noted

4:15

as the most hardball interviewer

4:17

on the planet. I would have treated them with

4:19

respect. But I will give Rashida

4:22

to leave. This is a once in a lifetime

4:24

moment. Dave Rubin, I'm getting applause

4:27

here in studio, is giving Rashida

4:29

to leave credit because her people

4:32

actually responded and said no. And Ilhan

4:34

Omar's people at least responded with

4:36

a non-response, but nobody else even responded.

4:39

And ironically, or I guess not ironically,

4:41

I guess obviously actually would be a better word

4:43

for it. Obviously that

4:46

right there, the idea that a certain set of

4:48

people are willing to sit down, talk

4:50

about their ideas. Again, I challenged these guys

4:52

on different things. It was obviously, I always

4:55

do it, you know me. So I do it in as friendly

4:58

a manner as possible. Some of these people I do consider

5:01

friends. And I also don't pretend

5:03

to hide my feelings. So

5:05

I asked almost every single one of those people,

5:07

what do they think about this Trump-Dysantis

5:10

divide? I have opinions on it too. You've

5:12

got guys like Matt Gaetz, who were totally

5:14

in Trump camp. You've got

5:16

guys like Chip Roy, who has

5:18

already endorsed DeSantis, even though DeSantis

5:21

hasn't even announced he's running. But we can

5:23

all do it and sit there and be respectful.

5:26

And that really was one of the interesting things

5:28

about being in DC. I also wanna

5:30

give a shout out to the 100 or

5:32

so people that showed up, we did a live interview

5:35

with Kevin McCarthy in the Capitol in

5:37

the Rayburn Room. And we had about 100

5:39

local subscribers who joined us. It was great,

5:42

great seeing you guys. And then everybody broke off

5:44

and did tours of the Capitol. And as Kevin

5:46

McCarthy said repeatedly, the people's

5:49

house is now open. There was a certain energy

5:51

there. There was a feeling like maybe some sanity

5:54

can come back. But the problem

5:56

guys is that if one side

5:58

wants sanity and some... something like civility.

6:01

And the other side just wants, what

6:03

I always say is that endless descent to hell and

6:06

the anger and you're all bigots and racists and

6:08

you want to kill kids and the rest of it. We

6:10

got a problem because how do you connect those

6:13

two things that, it's like connecting

6:15

two batteries with the same side and

6:17

it's just not gonna work, right? You

6:20

need two pieces that fit to

6:22

come together and that's what we're dealing with right now. So

6:24

the theme today really is civility

6:27

versus uncivility. And we

6:29

have a couple clips that are gonna lay that out for

6:31

you really, really easily, including

6:33

you may have seen a viral clip from yesterday. This

6:36

guy Bowman, what's Bowman's first name? Jamal

6:39

Bowman, who's a congressman from New York. About

6:43

an hour after I left Thomas

6:45

Massey. So I had Thomas Massey

6:47

and Chip Roy, our studio was about, I don't know, maybe

6:50

half mile from the Capitol. About an hour

6:52

after we finish our interview, Thomas Massey, who couldn't

6:54

be nicer. He's kind of a

6:56

dorky guy. He's like an electric

6:58

engineer. He wears a debt clock, an electronic

7:01

debt clock on his jacket. Like the guy couldn't be

7:03

nicer, more friendly, smiley,

7:05

like the type of person that you would want in

7:08

politics, right? Not an ideal,

7:10

Og. Like you get what he, he says what he believes.

7:13

This guy, Jamal Bowman, Democrat from New York, just

7:15

went off on him in the halls

7:18

of the Capitol and it was caught on video

7:20

and it's just showmanship and rudeness

7:22

and getting in his face. And actually, I think kind

7:24

of pushing him a little bit Like it really was

7:27

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7:29

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and vegetable right now. All right, let's

8:16

talk about civility or

8:18

the lack thereof. Obviously there

8:20

was this horrific shooting

8:22

in Tennessee. We are going to get to some of the specifics

8:25

of it and some of the fallout, but you guys know what

8:27

happens. When one of these shootings

8:30

occurs depending on the skin

8:32

color and religion of the shooter,

8:35

depending on the skin color and religion

8:37

of the victims, we either blow it up

8:39

and make it a huge story, when

8:41

I say we, I mean the mainstream media, or

8:44

we completely hide it if it doesn't fit the

8:46

narrative. And this one,

8:48

because it apparently was a trans

8:50

shooter and Christian victims,

8:53

does not fit the media narrative.

8:56

So the mainstream corporate press people

8:58

are going bananas because this one was

9:00

too horrific to

9:02

ignore, but they don't know how

9:05

to put this into their sort of very

9:07

binary brains where they can't really

9:10

think of things, think about things holistically.

9:13

They can only do partisan attacks. So here is,

9:15

yeah,

9:16

it's the view, it's the view. That's

9:21

good, that's good.

9:22

Here is Joy Behar on the

9:24

view going off on Senator

9:27

Marsha Blackburn, because she is a senator

9:30

from Tennessee, talking about how she doesn't

9:32

care about kids. Now, just remember, again, we

9:34

were supposed to sit down with

9:36

Marsha Blackburn that day. She

9:38

did not come to D.C. because

9:41

obviously she stayed home in light of what

9:43

had happened in Tennessee. Here's

9:45

Joy.

9:47

Nothing. They'll do nothing. They

9:50

do nothing. It's all about the money. You

9:52

know, Marsha Blackburn is a senator from Tennessee.

9:56

She of course sent out her thoughts and prayers. She

9:58

is 13th on the.

10:00

list of senators who received the most money

10:02

from the NRA. She

10:04

received over 1.3 million in

10:06

donations while representing a

10:08

state with 1,273 gun deaths a year. Okay, follow the

10:15

money. This is what this is all about, the

10:17

gun lobby. All these people who are selling

10:19

guns, they make a lot of money off of children's

10:22

deaths apparently in this country. They're

10:24

They're worrying about other people, books,

10:27

baloney items.

10:30

Baloney items. Pretty sure the

10:33

injectables in her face are filled with

10:35

baloney. Lady, there's

10:37

just so much here, look. Let me try

10:39

to do this. I'm gonna try to do this in a calm,

10:42

nonpartisan way.

10:44

First off,

10:45

her original notion that they do

10:47

nothing, meaning Republicans and conservatives

10:50

do nothing when these shootings occur. All

10:52

right, that is based in the,

10:55

I would say, canard that somehow

10:58

if you give people guns or if people

11:00

are to exercise their Second Amendment rights,

11:02

it is your Second Amendment right to be able to defend

11:04

yourself, your home, your property, your

11:07

family, et cetera. You are, it

11:09

is the Bill of Rights. They protect our rights.

11:12

They didn't give us our rights, right? God

11:14

gave us our rights. We have inherent human rights.

11:18

The idea that they do nothing, Republicans

11:20

do nothing because people got shot. The implication

11:23

is that most people, if they had access

11:25

to guns, would just start shooting and murdering

11:28

people. And that simply is

11:30

not true, right? A gun in and of

11:32

itself can do good things

11:34

and bad things. A gun can shoot a guy on

11:37

his way to murder somebody. That's good. A

11:39

gun can accidentally go off and

11:41

kill an innocent person. That's bad. It's

11:43

like fire. Fire can heat your home. That's

11:46

good. Fire can burn down your home. That's

11:48

bad. So the idea that they will do

11:51

nothing, as if, because what she's really saying

11:53

is, after these things happen, they should

11:55

do what we want. and what

11:58

we want is to take away.

12:00

the

12:00

gun. So here you have a lifelong

12:03

New York liberal trying to tell

12:05

the people of Tennessee how they should

12:07

live. It's kind of funny because I don't sense a lot of

12:10

people in Tennessee trying to tell

12:12

the New York liberal how to live. They're just saying to

12:14

the New York liberal, stay out of our freaking lives.

12:17

And that is one of the differences that we have right

12:19

now between the attitude of, I would

12:21

say, the blue state people and the red state

12:23

people.

12:24

So that was one piece

12:26

of that. Then, of course, it's follow the money.

12:28

That Marsha Blackburn only has

12:31

these beliefs, her belief in the Second

12:33

Amendment because of the NRA. You

12:36

know what's funny? As far as I know, Phoenix, you can double

12:38

check me on this on the fly. As far as I

12:40

know, no mass

12:42

shooter in American history has ever been a member

12:45

of the NRA. There have actually been

12:48

members of the NRA, like

12:50

in that Texas church shooting about a

12:52

year ago, who stop and

12:54

kill the shooter because they have guns and they are

12:56

properly trained and everything else.

12:59

But this idea that everyone who doesn't

13:01

believe what you believe is somehow bought

13:04

off, they are controlled by the NRA,

13:06

it's just absolutely disgusting.

13:09

And so yeah, so she's connecting. It's they do nothing,

13:11

money, and the NRA. Those are the big

13:14

pieces there. What she really wants is,

13:16

hey,

13:17

let us control you.

13:20

By the way, Illinois, she

13:22

referenced the amount of shootings in Tennessee.

13:26

Is that 1,741 deaths or is that deaths by shooting?

13:31

Deaths by shooting, Illinois

13:33

and Illinois gun deaths.

13:35

Illinois has basically the

13:38

strictest gun laws in the entire country. Anyway,

13:40

it continued on the view because the other

13:42

part, when I mentioned how

13:45

sometimes if the color of the shooter or

13:47

the ideology of the shooter fits and

13:50

the victims, if that fits the narrative

13:52

and we know what that narrative is, they love it. If it's a white

13:54

Christian shooting minorities, and this

13:56

is the greatest thing ever for the media. if it doesn't

13:58

work out that way they don't know exactly what

14:00

to do with it. In this case, it was a trans

14:03

shooter going into a Christian

14:06

school.

14:07

Now, you would believe by

14:10

any notion, if someone walks into a temple

14:13

and shoots a bunch of Jewish people, it

14:16

is obviously somehow connected to their

14:18

religion. Much like this is obviously

14:20

connected to their religion of Christianity.

14:23

But that does not compute for

14:25

these people. It does not work in their

14:28

very deranged

14:29

worldview. So here is Whoopi

14:31

having no knowledge,

14:33

no knowledge of what she is saying, saying that

14:35

no, this was not about

14:37

these people being Christians.

14:40

And until that conversation becomes

14:42

a real conversation that everybody's

14:44

willing to get on board with, children

14:46

are going to keep getting shot. People in

14:49

churches are going to keep getting shot. I heard one guy

14:51

say, well, you know, this is, This is against

14:53

the Christians. No, it's not against the Christians.

14:55

Because you would have mentioned it when they

14:57

went into the Black church. And you would have said, this

15:00

is an issue. We should be thinking about what you did. So

15:02

let's

15:02

not do that. And

15:06

let's not make it about transgender

15:07

people. Let's not make

15:09

it about anything but what it is. We

15:12

have a problem with this gun

15:14

and its accessibility in this

15:17

country.

15:18

She's just wrong. She's just

15:21

fundamentally wrong. You know, I have guns

15:23

in the town. I would never

15:25

take those guns and go into a church

15:28

or a mosque or a school and shoot

15:30

someone. I have those guns so I

15:32

can protect my family and my property.

15:34

I know that several of the other

15:37

people in this room have guns and that's the same

15:39

reason they have it. It's about mental

15:42

illness and ideology. That's

15:44

what this is about. But she dismisses

15:46

all of that and it's really bizarre that she

15:49

really doesn't want you to think it has anything to

15:51

do with the victims being Christian.

15:54

But it obviously does. This

15:56

person was not happy with the way they

15:58

perceive Christian. people to

16:00

treat trans people. Okay,

16:03

there's this manifesto. Supposedly I think it's a 27

16:06

page manifesto that they're trying to figure out whether

16:08

they should release right now. And I'm actually

16:11

50-50 on whether they should release it. I was discussing

16:13

it off camera with Thomas Massey because

16:16

on one hand I'm for transparency

16:18

obviously, right? And

16:20

so on one hand you'd wanna get it out so you'd have a little

16:22

more insight into actually why did this

16:25

person do this. The problem

16:27

though is that once you release it and

16:29

then it goes viral and people are clipping it and

16:31

reading it and it's read everywhere and everyone

16:34

knows this person's name and all that. You're actually

16:36

incentivizing the copycatters to

16:38

go, boy,

16:39

if I do something unimaginably

16:42

evil, like evil that

16:44

is so anti-human that

16:48

you really can't think about it, killing children,

16:51

the media will read my

16:53

scribe, they will read my rants,

16:55

and I will become famous after

16:58

life. So there is a push and a pull

17:00

on that that I think you can make good arguments on

17:02

both sides. But she is completely dismissive

17:04

of the fact that the victims were Christian. She only

17:07

wants to make this about guns and she somehow connects

17:09

that to when there's been shootings in black

17:11

churches, except whoopee,

17:13

when there have been shootings in black churches, it's

17:16

because they're going after black people and

17:18

they're going after Christians who happen

17:20

to be black in those churches. You're the

17:23

one disconnecting reality from all of this.

17:25

This is about mental illness and it's probably,

17:28

and I think we will find more about this,

17:30

and we usually do. It's about mental illness,

17:33

and it's about prescription medication, and

17:36

what this stuff is doing to warped minds. And

17:38

then you take these warped minds and

17:40

you throw them in a world that

17:42

has endless scroll,

17:44

where boys are girls, and girls are boys, and

17:47

not racists are racists, and all

17:49

of the untruths

17:51

that we know about, you do that

17:54

over and over and over again

17:56

to a 14-year-old brain. And by the

17:58

time that brain is 18 years.

18:00

old, it might do something horrific.

18:02

It might absolutely do something horrific. On

18:04

top of the fact, and I don't want to speculate too far,

18:07

but as several people have brought up, if

18:09

this person was in fact trans, it's a little

18:11

unclear to me whether this person had transitioned

18:14

all the way or whatever it was, but we know that this was

18:16

a biological girl who was

18:19

going by he-him pronouns

18:21

and there was some level of the trans stuff there. If

18:23

it turns out that she was

18:26

on testosterone, which is what they put young girls

18:28

on when and they are transitioning them, right? Their

18:30

bodies do not create it, so then they are trying to make them

18:33

male. You put them on testosterone. Do

18:35

you think testosterone has a little something to do with aggression?

18:38

Do you think that might be a piece of this? So this one, this

18:40

one I'm telling you guys, this one's gonna be pushed

18:42

under the rug, swept under the rug so quickly, because

18:45

every piece of it, from the shooter,

18:47

the evil shooter, and

18:50

the warped mind that did this, to

18:52

the victims, none of it computes the

18:54

way that these things are supposed to compute for the

18:56

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18:58

at one thing, it's good at hiding the things

19:00

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now. Okay,

20:15

so look, we can talk about the shooting all

20:17

day. I actually wanna basically leave that

20:19

there. We'll see what more

20:22

info comes out. But yes, it

20:24

is one of those things where they're gonna go after, one

20:26

side's gonna go after the guns. One

20:29

side is probably gonna try to go over

20:31

the top on going after trans people.

20:34

I don't blame anyone

20:35

but the shooter and perhaps the psychiatrist

20:39

and the people, whoever was infecting

20:41

this young person's mind with the

20:43

bad ideas that would lead them to this. That's where

20:45

you lay blame. You don't lay blame on a

20:48

collective of individuals. That's what we're always trying

20:50

to fight around here. But what this all leads

20:52

us to is something about civility

20:55

because it is seemingly going out the window. I

20:58

try to do my best with it, but you guys know that I

21:00

joke and I drop some F-bombs and talk

21:03

about the socialists and all the crazies

21:05

and sometimes you have to. And as many of you said

21:07

to me when we went out for drinks on

21:09

Tuesday night after the McCarthy interview, you

21:11

guys dig that because you're feeling it too. It's

21:14

a release. Some of it is a silly release,

21:17

right? I'm certainly, I don't think anyone

21:19

in their right mind would say I'm trying to gin up hate

21:21

here. I know there are people who do say that, but I don't think they're

21:23

in their right mind. But civility,

21:26

especially in politics, is being

21:28

completely wiped away. And

21:31

as I mentioned, I interviewed Thomas Massey yesterday

21:33

alongside Chip Roy, Thomas Massey, congressman

21:36

from Kentucky. He is just a light,

21:39

fun, decent guy.

21:41

He's the type of guy, you're like, I can't believe you're a congressman

21:44

because you're just kind of like a goofy, fun

21:47

guy. He's also brilliant, and he has

21:49

his house running completely off the grid using

21:51

an old broken Tesla battery. I mean, the

21:53

guy's done some amazing stuff. In any

21:55

event, he is a proponent of the Second Amendment.

21:57

He does believe in gun rights. He owned several guns.

22:00

He has been a strong supporter of the Second

22:02

Amendment, etc.

22:03

He was walking in the halls of

22:05

the Capitol. We were right in this

22:07

very room. The video we're about to show you, we were

22:10

in this room, my whole team was in the room a few

22:12

hours earlier.

22:13

And here is Thomas Massey basically

22:15

getting accosted by

22:18

New York Democrat Jamal Bowman

22:20

over the shooting and just watch the

22:22

difference

22:23

in tone, in content,

22:26

and behavior. rather extraordinary.

22:57

Yes. States that

22:59

have open county laws have more debt.

23:02

States that have open county

23:05

laws have more debt. Are

23:08

you listening to what I'm saying? What

23:11

caused that? Children are dying. Nine-year-old

23:15

children. Because there's a solution to

23:17

that. Urban teachers, have you ever worked in

23:19

a school? Have you ever worked

23:21

in a school?

23:22

Have you ever worked in a school? Have

23:25

you ever worked in a school? Mr. Yester, if I want

23:28

to have you ever worked in

23:29

the school, you will not answer my question.

23:31

Don't stop and talk to me. Okay,

23:33

I'll bring it down. All

23:35

right folks, I've got a bill to repeal.

23:38

I worked in the school for 20 years. I

23:40

was a teacher. I was a school

23:42

teacher. I was a school counselor. I

23:54

was a middle school principal. I was in

23:56

cafeterias, protecting kids.

24:00

There's never been a shooting. We've

24:02

given them a chance to ask them. It's

24:04

time. We've got guns here to protect

24:06

us. Why? I

24:09

believe the kids should have somebody

24:11

to protect them. Every school

24:13

that's allowed it has never had a shooting. Not

24:16

even an accidental discharge at any of the

24:18

schools.

24:20

There's

24:20

so much there. First off, I mean, look,

24:22

the obvious stuff. Like, just the general behavior

24:25

of these people. Jamal Bowman is just

24:27

grandstanding, screaming, screaming, getting in

24:29

Massey's face. He touches him a couple

24:32

times. Massey is

24:34

clearly trying to explain something to him, right?

24:37

He's clearly trying to explain, hey, you

24:39

know, and we all went through this firsthand.

24:42

There are metal detectors when you walk into the Capitol.

24:45

There are armed security guards everywhere,

24:48

literally every hallway, every door,

24:51

outside, inside, everywhere. Now,

24:53

I'm actually not taking the position that that's what

24:55

we want at every school, because I do think over time,

24:58

if you sort of just militarize everything,

25:01

the changes in behavior for people

25:04

will not be a net good. I think there's

25:06

a psychological and mental component to this

25:08

that we really have to deal with. But the general

25:11

idea of, oh, we all walk

25:13

around with security, we have metal

25:15

detectors, we have people out there, but

25:18

we let these schools not be guarded

25:20

by anything is clearly the right one.

25:22

So there's a tone issue and that Bowman

25:24

is doing exactly what lefties do with

25:26

virtually everything. It doesn't matter if you know what you're

25:28

saying, if you just stand in a big room

25:31

knowing that there's cameras there and scream

25:33

a certain amount of people think, oh, he has righteous

25:35

indignation. So he obviously is

25:37

right. But of course he is

25:40

not. There's another interesting piece of this, as

25:42

I mentioned, and hopefully some of you guys saw it. At

25:45

noon yesterday, we had Ted Cruz in and we did, it

25:47

wasn't an interview, we just ran through clips with

25:49

Ted Cruz about a bunch of things. And we were talking about the

25:51

Tennessee shooting. Ted Cruz brought

25:53

a bill to the floor about a year ago that

25:56

would have had an armed guard at every

25:59

school in the United States.

26:00

States, public school, private school,

26:02

charter school, etc. Every single

26:04

Democrat ruled against it.

26:07

Okay, so now I get it. They

26:09

want to get rid of guns altogether because they

26:12

only want, in essence, the state to have

26:14

the guns because you know what's going to happen then? We'll all behave.

26:16

That really is what this is all about. They want centralized

26:19

power and a bunch of, I

26:22

don't know, fish people basically with no

26:24

backbones who are going to behave

26:26

as they they wish. So it's

26:28

a tone issue and it's a lack of understanding.

26:31

And also when he keeps saying, have you ever worked in

26:33

a school? Have you ever worked in school? It's utterly irrelevant.

26:36

It is absolutely utterly irrelevant.

26:39

Thomas Massey, he kept his cool the entire

26:41

time. He tweeted this after. He

26:44

tweeted out the video, as you can see, and then he said, he wanted

26:46

to discuss solutions to school shootings,

26:48

but when I offered a solution, he

26:50

began shouting.

26:51

When he asked for data, I gave him data,

26:54

but then he just shouted more.

26:55

Bring facts, there's never been

26:58

a school shooting in the hundreds of

27:00

schools that allow staffs

27:02

to carry.

27:04

Okay, I wanna go a little further

27:06

with this because you really

27:09

need to understand that what's happening in DC is indicative

27:11

of what I started with at the top of the show.

27:14

We got, I believe it was 12 Republicans

27:17

to sit down with me, two that had to

27:19

cancel because of their own issues,

27:22

and no Democrats would talk to me. This is

27:24

a problem. And when a guy like Jamal

27:26

Bowman,

27:27

when he starts thinking that Thomas Massey

27:30

is the extremist, is

27:32

the gun maniac and

27:34

all that stuff, we got a real problem. So I thought we'd just show you

27:37

just two little clips. We're gonna

27:39

post the full interview that we have with Thomas Massey

27:41

and Chip Roy, but I wanna show you two little clips. Thomas

27:44

Massey, his main thing is about debt. This

27:46

guy is into the financials. He

27:48

actually, he made it himself. We're gonna show

27:50

this to you in just a sec. A debt clock,

27:53

a digital debt clock that he wears as

27:55

a lapel pin, okay? And

27:57

that's what he cares about most. Can you tell me, does this

27:59

guy...

28:00

just his tone, everything about this guy. Does he

28:02

strike you as the extremist that you want to be yelling

28:04

at in the hallway? Thomas,

28:06

I gotta start with you because everyone's gonna be wondering

28:08

about that thing right there. You

28:10

have the debt clock on

28:13

your lapel. You probably want them still waiting on you. Yeah,

28:15

where's yours? Some

28:18

people have a pacemaker up here, a lot

28:20

of these old senators. I've got an anxiety

28:23

maker. I'm trying to make their hearts skip

28:25

beats

28:26

and become concerned by

28:28

looking at the debt increasing each

28:30

day. It goes, I wrote the

28:32

software in here, I made the case.

28:35

I've got some 3D printed ones I'm working

28:37

on so Chiproy can have a copy. But

28:39

it goes to the Treasury's website once a day, gets

28:41

the actual debt to the penny, and

28:43

then

28:44

makes its best guess based on the average

28:46

debt per second over the last year about

28:49

what the debt is at this very moment. I'm

28:51

gonna guess that when you're back home in Kentucky,

28:53

or I should say Kentucky and Texas, of course, when

28:56

you're back home in Kentucky, people probably dig it. You come

28:58

here and everyone's like, could you put that thing away, a

29:00

little bit of that? The Democrats,

29:02

I had one in an elevator look at it and say,

29:05

is that a doomsday clock? And I said,

29:07

yes, ma'am, it is. Well, they're always escalating

29:10

that situation.

29:12

Funny, it is a doomsday clock, but they

29:14

just don't fully realize it. So

29:17

as I mentioned, I had, on the Republican

29:19

side, a whole bunch of people, Trump supporters, DeSantis

29:21

people, people that backed McCarthy for

29:24

the speakership, people that didn't. As a matter

29:26

of fact, both of those guys did not back McCarthy

29:28

at first. Chip Roy especially was one of the most

29:30

outspoken against McCarthy, but

29:32

they knew that the day before I had sat down

29:35

with McCarthy, I had Gates on, who's a big

29:37

Trump guy, and then I had Crenshaw,

29:39

who the base doesn't seem to be for. I tried to bring

29:41

in a plurality of opinions. But the

29:44

theme with everybody was they are having a hard

29:46

time talking to anybody

29:48

on the Democrat side. And I actually

29:50

asked Massey about working with

29:53

AOC and the progressives.

29:55

So when you guys see AOC

29:58

afterwards, talk about how this bill... was basically

30:00

passed by fascists. And it's like, man,

30:02

she needs some better education because you don't know

30:04

what it means. Or Hakeem

30:07

Jeffries, you know, they don't want to teach about the Holocaust.

30:09

I mean, these were the responses you got out of these guys.

30:12

I've asked this to every Republican I've sat down with for the

30:14

last three days. Are you talking to these guys

30:16

in the back rooms going, what the hell are you talking

30:19

about? You know that's not legit.

30:21

So, I mean, in the rules committee,

30:23

we debated this and Chip was right

30:25

to point out, they knew that this bill

30:28

didn't ban books, okay? because

30:30

we had already discussed that the day before

30:32

in the Rules Committee before the debate came to the

30:34

whole house. They knew

30:36

it didn't ban books, but they went down there and said

30:38

it anyways because they knew a lot of their constituents

30:41

wouldn't do the due diligence to find that.

30:44

What we were referring to right there is the bill that

30:46

got passed a couple days ago, this Parental Rights and

30:48

Education bill, which is basically a sort

30:50

of copycat version of what we've

30:52

been doing here in Florida. It's about transparency and education.

30:55

There's nothing about banning books. There's nothing about, you

30:57

can't say gay. There's nothing about hiding information

31:00

about the Holocaust, but AOC, we

31:02

showed you the clip a couple days ago, literally was calling

31:04

this bill passed by fascists. You

31:07

got the other one, Hakeem Jeffries, saying they don't wanna

31:09

teach about the Holocaust. And the point is that these

31:11

guys, Massey, Chip Royce, some of the other ones, they

31:13

get out there every day. They try their

31:15

best to explain why they're voting for things,

31:17

things that anyone, I mean, especially guys, I

31:20

can tell you as a new parent, you want transparency,

31:22

especially related to your kids. Why would I

31:24

ever wanna send my kid to a school where I just,

31:26

no, I am just simply not allowed to know what

31:28

they are teaching that child. Like, think how actually

31:31

insane that is. But this lack

31:33

of civility does consistently seem to

31:35

only go in one direction. Where are all

31:37

of the videos of the Republicans

31:39

screaming at the Democrats and

31:42

lying constantly about what they say?

31:44

Actually, they just don't exist,

31:47

but please send them to me if you can find them and I'll gladly

31:49

show them to you. And I'm talking about

31:51

people in

31:52

Congress and the Senate right now. I'm not talking about the average

31:55

guy on the street. But I wanna show you another video.

31:57

You may remember this, this is from March 1st.

32:00

we showed you this clip, Jamal Bowman. Again, Congressman

32:02

from New York. This is on,

32:04

I believe it's the steps to the Capitol. Going

32:07

after Byron Donalds. Byron Donalds is Congressman

32:09

from here in Southwest Florida. He's

32:12

a good dude. A bunch of the Republicans

32:15

who are supposed to be racist were voting for him for

32:17

speakership, but okay, whatever. Here's

32:19

Jamal Bowman going after Byron Donalds

32:21

because he supports, I believe

32:24

he calls him white nationalist, Ron

32:26

DeSantis.

32:28

the same. The same. This doesn't have 45

32:36

45. He's a national. He's

32:39

a white supremacist. He's anti

32:43

gay. He's anti women. He's anti black. Listen,

32:45

there's no way he can be president.

32:48

Former colleagues in the legislation. The other

32:50

one who's the other one Democrat when all that

32:52

stuff was coming up last year, I called them.

32:54

I said, Tell me what's happening. They're like, Ah, I'm out

32:56

of the conversation. Why can't

32:58

those who have been incarcerated,

33:00

who are released, who have done their time, why

33:02

can't they be re-enfranchised and be allowed

33:04

to vote? They are in our state. No, they're

33:07

not, man. They can bring all kinds of files and vote.

33:10

I mean, there's so much there. He has no arguments,

33:13

right? He's telling a black man

33:15

that his friend, I mean, Byron Donalds and

33:17

Ron DeSantis are friends. At Ron

33:19

DeSantis' re-election night, remember that

33:22

20-point win, 1.5 million

33:24

vote win that he had back in November. You know who

33:27

opened for him? The only politician

33:29

on stage with him that night of

33:31

the win? Yeah, it was Byron Donalds.

33:34

Okay, former felons are allowed

33:36

to vote in Florida, so he also made that up.

33:39

And he's anti-black, he's anti-women,

33:42

he's anti-gay. And then this is

33:44

the same guy who a month later is

33:46

screaming at Thomas Massey

33:48

about guns as if he wants people to be killed,

33:50

just because he believes in the Second Amendment.

33:53

But this, what do we do with this? And I really

33:55

mean this as an open-ended question, Maybe this will

33:57

be an open-ended question. for

34:00

the remainder of the time that I do this program.

34:03

What do we do if we consistently

34:06

are trying to explain what we believe, why

34:09

we believe it, and how

34:11

we want to accomplish it, if the other side

34:13

is just there to lie about

34:16

it, and in their estimation,

34:18

take us out because we are the bad guys. There

34:21

was another interesting moment. One of the people that I

34:23

interviewed, this was yesterday as well, yesterday

34:25

morning, was Marjorie Taylor Greene, congresswoman

34:28

from Georgia. Now, if you listen to the mainstream

34:30

narrative on her, she's a white nationalist

34:33

and something about a Jewish space laser

34:35

and she doesn't like black people or something and

34:37

she's an insurrectionist. I actually found her quite

34:39

lovely. She was very able

34:41

to explain what she believes. We talked

34:43

about a little bit of everything, but

34:46

later in the day, she was doing a hearing

34:48

and they were talking about what

34:51

happened in Tennessee and she's having

34:53

a back and forth with, what's his

34:55

name, Jason Moskowitz? Is it Jason?

34:58

Jeff Moskowitz, representative

35:01

Jared Moskowitz, about

35:04

shootings and

35:06

sort of how she evolved on some of this stuff.

35:08

Any question? I'll

35:11

yield to anyone on this committee who disagrees

35:14

that murder in schools is

35:16

not

35:17

murder. I yield. Will you yield? Oh,

35:19

I'll yield, yes, please. Yeah, when I was in 11th

35:21

grade and Joe Biden made our schools gun-free

35:23

school zones, one of the students in my

35:25

school brought three guns of school

35:28

and our entire school went on lockdown

35:30

because he was the only person with a gun. There

35:33

was no good guy with a gun to

35:36

protect us kids at school. You want to

35:38

know why the shooter is dead in

35:40

Nashville, the trans shooter, you

35:42

want to know why? Because a good guy with a gun

35:45

killed that woman. She identified

35:47

as a man, she was mentally ill, probably

35:50

taking hormones and she

35:52

went and murdered children and adults

35:54

in this Christian school in Nashville.

35:57

So if you want to have a good talk about schools.

36:00

and protecting children. We

36:02

need to talk about protecting our children

36:04

the same way we protect our president,

36:07

we protect our celebrities, we protect this

36:09

building.

36:09

Reclaiming my time. Okay,

36:12

I'll yield. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

36:15

You

36:15

got it, it's just the truth. These

36:17

people exist and are able to

36:19

scream about taking away our

36:21

guns while they are protected by guns. Remember

36:24

that video we showed you about a month ago as

36:26

Gavin Newsom was walking the streets of California

36:29

talking about how the GOP is in a suicide

36:31

pact with the NRA because of guns

36:34

and he's surrounded by like eight armed

36:36

security guards because that's the only way he can go

36:38

out in the state of California. I

36:41

know you guys get it, but it's not just the congressmen,

36:44

congresswomen and the

36:45

senators who are

36:47

disconnected from reality on

36:49

the left. It's also obviously the president

36:51

and the president, I would say is disconnected from reality

36:54

when it comes to basically everything for

36:56

several reasons, some of the medical. Here

37:00

is his first response. This was the first

37:02

thing that he said

37:03

after the shooting.

37:05

Ripping our communities apart, ripping

37:07

the soul of this nation, ripping it the very

37:10

soul of the nation. And we have

37:12

to do more to protect our schools so they aren't turned

37:14

into prisons. You know,

37:17

a shooter in this situation

37:19

reportedly had two assault weapons

37:21

and a pistol, two AK-47. So

37:24

I call on Congress again to pass my

37:26

assault weapons ban.

37:29

No, Joe, you got it backwards. First

37:31

off, okay, the usual slurring, that's fine. He doesn't even

37:33

know what he's saying.

37:35

Again, Ted Cruz a year ago

37:37

tried to get an armed security

37:39

guy at the front of every school. So

37:41

now imagine, and there's no perfect

37:44

system, right? There's always ways around a system.

37:46

I accept that. But now imagine there's

37:48

an armed security guard at the door of

37:50

this school or any school, The

37:53

shooter comes up, now you have a standoff.

37:55

You have someone that is trained and prepared and

37:57

ready to defend the students and the teacher.

38:00

and the faculty, et cetera, but

38:02

every Democrat was against that.

38:04

So what the Democrats are doing, while the

38:06

bodies are still warm,

38:08

the Democrats are saying, how can we

38:10

take guns from you? And if you think

38:12

for one second that

38:14

if they can get whatever they want, we want

38:16

semi-automatics, they don't even know what they're talking about,

38:18

right? We always find this out. They don't

38:20

even know what the definition of the words mean. They

38:22

don't know the difference between magazine and clip. They don't know any

38:24

of this stuff. But okay, if you think

38:26

for one second that if you give

38:28

them an inch on guns, they will stop.

38:31

Oh, we're good guys, we got the guns we wanted,

38:33

let's wrap up shop. First off, it's

38:35

an insane theory. You would not understand

38:37

the ideology of progressivism. It

38:40

is to progress always on your

38:42

rights, that's how it works. But it's

38:44

not just that, it is that they will always do

38:46

it and then they will move on to

38:48

something else. It's the Second Amendment that is protecting

38:51

the First Amendment, right? It's just

38:53

how it is. Here's

38:55

another one by Biden, where

38:57

he's conflating

38:58

a couple different issues on

39:00

how Americans feel about guns in

39:02

general. Take a look.

39:04

Congress has to

39:06

act. The majority of the American

39:08

people think having assault weapons

39:11

is bizarre. It's very VIP. Very

39:14

desktop.

39:15

I don't know if that is true. I don't know what, we tried

39:18

to find some numbers on that, that the majority

39:20

of Americans think that having assault weapons is

39:22

bizarre. We could not find that out. But let's

39:24

say that is true for a second. I will try

39:27

to make your argument for you, Joe.

39:29

If the majority of Americans think that having assault

39:32

weapons is bizarre, does that

39:34

mean then that you should take

39:36

assault weapons from people? Should

39:39

we be ruled by a mob?

39:41

Just because most people think something,

39:43

does that mean that it is right? I think

39:46

because I have a wise audience, you guys know that

39:48

that obviously is not the case. Imagine,

39:50

and you could end up in a situation like this, where after

39:53

generations of programming young people, we

39:55

could end up in a situation, and I think we may be

39:57

heading to that situation, where the majority

40:00

of people will think that the First Amendment and

40:02

free speech are bad. They will think there

40:04

are too many bad ideas out there. People

40:06

have too many conflating and conflicting

40:09

views on things. There's too much quote

40:11

unquote hate speech, et cetera. And once

40:13

that gets over that 50% threshold, should

40:15

we take away free speech?

40:17

Should

40:18

minority viewpoints not be allowed to

40:20

be shared in the world that Joe Biden

40:22

wants to live in? Apparently the answer is yes. But

40:25

then of course, we had to show you

40:27

a clip of cringe, Jean-Pierre,

40:31

where she just, instead of just

40:33

honestly saying, we have to think

40:35

about mental health, we have to think

40:37

maybe we actually are radicalizing

40:40

now a whole generation of people because they're

40:42

confused about their gender and their

40:44

sexuality and all of these things and what that might

40:46

lead to. Instead of having any honest assessment,

40:49

it's Republicans wanna kill people because

40:52

of guns. We

40:54

must do more and he wants Congress

40:57

to act because enough is

40:59

enough. In his

41:01

State of the Union, the President called on Congress to

41:03

do something to stop

41:05

the epidemic of gun violence tearing

41:08

families apart, tearing communities

41:10

apart. How many more

41:12

children have to be murdered

41:15

before Republicans in Congress will

41:18

step up and act to pass

41:20

the assault weapons ban, to

41:23

close loopholes in our background check system,

41:28

or to require the safe storage of guns.

41:30

We need to do something.

41:33

Most of those laws exist already, that's

41:36

number one. But this idea that it's just how

41:38

many more children have to die until Republicans

41:41

do what we want. How many more children have to

41:43

die until Republicans are like, Constitution,

41:45

Constitution, right? No,

41:48

guys, no, but they can't, they just

41:51

can't deal with any of this honestly.

41:53

And do you think that might be why they'd be afraid

41:55

to sit down with a guy like me? Like,

41:58

am I known as the most... combative

42:00

interviewer, I'm actually known as the reverse

42:03

of that. I used to get a lot of criticism because

42:05

I was the reverse of that, right? People would say, Dave's

42:07

a softball interviewer. OK, but

42:10

they're afraid to sit down with me because what they want

42:12

to do, what she knows she can do is

42:14

Biden can say his nonsense,

42:17

then she can filter it down and then the mainstream

42:19

media just repeats it. So they basically

42:22

never have to be challenged on any of this. And if you

42:24

want to see how the mainstream media also

42:26

obfuscates the obvious truth about this stuff.

42:28

Look at this headline from Reuters. I mean tell

42:31

me this is not just evil.

42:33

Former Christian school student

42:36

kills three children, three

42:39

staff in Nashville shooting. So apparently

42:41

this trans activist

42:44

was at one time a Christian school

42:46

student

42:47

and that is the way they chose

42:50

to frame it. Just incredible. Then

42:52

there's this guy Ben Ryan who he

42:55

is an an NBC guy? Did we confirm that? He's

42:57

an NBC guy? Look

42:59

at this tweet. I mean, is this just unbelievable?

43:02

NBC has ID'd the Nashville

43:04

school shooter as Audrey Hale, 28, who

43:06

identifies as transgender

43:09

and had no previous criminal record. Nashville

43:13

is home to the Daily Wire, a hub

43:15

of anti-trans activity by

43:17

Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, and

43:19

Michael Knowles. Ben

43:24

Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and Michael Knowles

43:27

had nothing to do with this. The Daily

43:29

Wire being in Nashville had nothing

43:31

to do with this. We will find out

43:33

more about

43:35

the medication this person was on, the ideology

43:37

that this person was

43:39

following, but Ben Shapiro

43:41

and Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh never

43:44

said, if you

43:45

like us or dislike us or anything else, you should take

43:47

the law into your own hands and kill people.

43:51

This is a mental health issue, guys. It

43:53

is a mental health issue, guys. But look, here's

43:56

how the USA today covered

43:58

this. Police on Monday. One

44:00

day afternoon said that the shooter was a transgender

44:02

man. Officials had initially

44:05

misidentified the gender of the shooter. Do

44:07

you see how stupid this is? It is so

44:09

pro- I don't care. And no

44:12

one in their right mind cares about the gender

44:14

of this person right now, right? It's going to become

44:16

political because they've forced this trans

44:18

stuff on everybody.

44:20

But you see where the media is worried about, oh

44:22

my god, did we misgender the

44:25

murderer? Insane. Speaking

44:27

of insane,

44:29

Don Lennon, CNN Go.

44:32

The police are identifying the shooter as

44:34

a trans woman, would actually be a trans man,

44:37

so there's sort of a misidentification there, but this is all

44:39

new. I'm just wondering, the identity

44:41

of being a transgender person and also

44:43

being identified as a woman, does

44:45

this pose any sort of difference or

44:48

difficulty for police because it's not

44:50

typically a woman, regardless of how

44:52

they're identifying? So there are a couple of things

44:54

here that are different and that

44:56

we are going to have to talk about and delve into.

45:00

Right. So each of these cases is always

45:02

going to have a particular

45:05

difference, right? Whether it's

45:08

someone is angry at their father or someone had

45:10

something happen at the school. And

45:12

this is a unique case and we have to be

45:14

sensitive about it to the extent that Audrey Hale

45:16

identified as a woman who do

45:18

not see mass shooters who

45:21

are female, especially in particular school

45:24

shooting murderers. That is,

45:26

this is actually, I

45:28

think, the first time that I

45:30

can remember.

45:32

Okay, do you see how they're so focused

45:34

on the wrong thing

45:36

and how they're basically running

45:38

cover

45:39

for a trans ideology? Because

45:42

if this was a Muslim that went into

45:44

a church and shot Christians, nobody

45:46

would be like, oh, we better figure this out.

45:49

everyone would be and

45:50

probably correctly.

45:52

Well, first off, I would still say there's a mental health issue,

45:55

because again, if you kill innocent people, there's a mental health

45:57

issue there. but we would be able to maybe connect

45:59

this to a. religious ideology and there would be a certain

46:01

amount of people, by the way, people on the right, who then would

46:03

be unjustly prejudice against Muslims.

46:06

If a Christian shooter went into a Jewish synagogue

46:09

or a Jew went into a mosque, right,

46:11

we would be able to somewhat clearly

46:13

connect these things. But in this one, we better not

46:15

misgender this person who's a trans man or a trans

46:18

woman, this has never happened before, we should be very careful,

46:20

blah, blah, blah. As opposed to focusing on

46:22

the real victims, the way they talk about it, the victim

46:24

here is the shooter. The victim

46:27

here is the shooter, you know, because the

46:29

Daily Wire is in Nashville

46:30

and somebody

46:32

misgendered this guy or this gal.

46:35

Insane, absolutely insane.

46:37

Here is a fake Republican.

46:39

You know these pet Republicans, I'm always talking

46:41

about these pet Republicans that go on MSNBC.

46:44

He is a former congressman named David Jolly. Former,

46:46

I'm very happy to say he's former congressman because he

46:48

was a Floridian Congressman, David

46:51

Jolly. And he's a pet Republican, which basically

46:53

means a Democrat. He goes on MSNBC

46:56

to just rail against Republicans. and

46:58

listen to just the way they frame

47:00

this. I mean, it just, yeah, it's about

47:02

race, go.

47:04

When you say the word gun violence, one of

47:06

the things that always strikes me here, and you see it here,

47:08

is if you say the word

47:10

crime, Republicans,

47:13

there's nothing that's too much to

47:16

go after crime in the big cities. Crime,

47:19

crime is the enemy, throw it. If

47:21

you say gun violence, which is probably

47:23

the most deadly subset of crime,

47:26

All of a sudden it's like, well, what are you gonna do? It's

47:29

just, whatever the word

47:31

is, that just changes everything. Yeah,

47:34

Chris, this is gonna be hard, but for Republicans,

47:36

crime is something that's committed by black Americans.

47:39

Yes, right. Gun ownership and gun violence

47:41

is something that is part of the culture of

47:43

young white men and so Republicans protect

47:45

it. And that's just the real...

47:47

Yes, oh yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, crime.

47:49

Only black people commit crime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's

47:52

so weird because it

47:55

seems to me Republicans are the ones that care about

47:57

crime in the big city, thus fund

47:59

the police.

48:00

so that there is less crime in their cities.

48:02

There's a reason that Denver, for example,

48:06

has homelessness and drug use everywhere, and Dallas

48:08

does not.

48:09

One is run by a Democrat, one's run by a Republican. He's

48:12

a muppet to this guy, this Chris Hayes. He's just

48:14

a muppet. But

48:16

this David Jolly, like, yes, do

48:18

you see how what they did? Instead of dealing with

48:20

the actual mental health issues are about

48:23

this specific person and this ideology

48:25

that is being pushed on children everywhere, instead

48:27

of dealing with the complexities related

48:29

to that, it's somehow Republicans fault.

48:31

Oh, and also Republicans are racist when it comes to

48:34

all of this. But not just that, here's another

48:36

lunatic from MSNBC. Republicans

48:38

also hate rule of law.

48:42

We now live in a society where

48:44

the cops are afraid

48:46

of the convicts. We're former

48:48

presidents. Former

48:52

presidents, they make martyrs

48:55

out of convicts who stormed

48:58

the United States Capitol.

49:00

These Republicans are

49:03

the enemy of the rule of law.

49:05

My

49:05

God, they're talking about a

49:07

trans shooter who shot

49:09

up a Christian school and

49:11

he's making this about January 6th.

49:14

Bananas, bananas. Also,

49:16

cops are afraid of convicts. You

49:19

know, it's funny, they're not afraid of them here in Florida

49:21

where we have rule of law and all-time low

49:23

crime. You know where they are? You know

49:25

where cops are afraid and where cops are

49:27

retiring early and where they are literally,

49:30

literally having to lower the

49:32

physical fitness standards to become police

49:34

officers?

49:35

New York, because they defunded

49:37

the police. Minnesota, because

49:40

they defunded the police. Seattle, Portland, San

49:42

Francisco, Los Angeles. Not

49:45

Republican places, bananas. All

49:47

right, only one more from MSNBC, I promise. You

49:50

know this guy, we've shown a couple clips of to this guy. There's this

49:52

guy, what's his name? What's his first name? Nod.

49:56

His first same to nod. His last name, I'm probably

49:58

going to mispronounce it, is Gridharadas. He

50:00

looks like a villain from Gotham

50:03

City. I think he broke out of

50:05

Arkham Asylum and he's terrorizing,

50:07

well I know he's terrorizing people because he's on MSNBC.

50:11

Watch this. And

50:13

then more people see big problems in

50:16

their lives that government can't solve and

50:18

get demoralized about government, which

50:20

helps this extremist right

50:23

ideology. And it is sickening to

50:26

watch them try to claim the idea

50:28

of freedom. For me the freedom

50:30

to remain alive or have

50:32

my kids remain alive kind of comes

50:34

first. But also they say they talk about

50:36

a freedom. They

50:39

talk about a freedom that they've made up in

50:41

their own twisted heads because

50:43

they've been whipped into

50:45

a paranoid. You

50:49

guys have that searing pain in your heads right now like

50:51

a knife stabbing you in your Abdullah

50:54

Ablongata.

50:57

Yeah,

50:59

he's sort of right. Government

51:02

can't solve problems. Government's not good at problems.

51:04

The nine scariest words in the English language, I'm from

51:06

the government and I'm here to help

51:08

except he, like every idiot

51:10

at that table and everyone on MSNBC

51:12

and everyone watching MSNBC, their solution

51:14

is always more money and more government.

51:17

The government is evil. The government

51:19

is corrupt. is

51:22

full of elitists pushing the people down.

51:25

What is the solution? Make it bigger,

51:28

make it bigger. I want

51:30

the freedom to have my children alive. Well, no

51:32

shit. So how about we scale back

51:34

government, which is the number one thing

51:36

encroaching on all of our

51:39

lives.

51:42

Oh, wait, we have more MSNBC. I'm

51:48

sorry, guys, we do have more MSNBC. Remember

51:51

John Heilman? I feel like I owe everybody

51:53

an apology right now. I

51:55

apologize if you guys,

51:57

I apologize. What can I do? What can I do?

51:59

for John Hoe-

52:00

He is the MSNBC hack

52:02

who went on real time with Bill Maher about a

52:04

month ago and Russell Brand just Filled

52:07

this guy just absolutely filleted

52:10

this guy Here he is

52:12

and remember the whole thing was about whether they lie on

52:14

MSNBC intentionally here He is telling

52:16

an insanely completely fictitious

52:19

story about Republicans and

52:21

Waco I

52:22

don't even know what he's talking about here,

52:24

but go ahead taken

52:26

semi-automatic weapons, making the machine guns,

52:28

and it was when ATF saw

52:31

evidence of that and the fact that David Koresh was raping

52:33

young girls, that they decided to try to

52:36

make a move on Waco, and that's what started the whole 51-day

52:38

siege. And

52:40

those people are heroes now on the right. David

52:42

Koresh and the

52:45

assault, the Waco, the French Davidians are now,

52:47

we'll talk about this more later, but that's how deep

52:49

it goes, and it's not new. The only other thing I'll say

52:52

is I agree any, like, you

52:54

know, some parts of the culture are obviously

52:56

broken and it's

52:58

not all about policy.

53:00

Koresh is a hero on the right.

53:03

Now I have three right-wing maniacs in the room with

53:05

me right now. How many of you, show of hands,

53:07

guys, have a David Koresh, you

53:11

know,

53:11

like a bunch of pictures of David Koresh, a shrine, let's

53:14

say, to David Koresh in your bedrooms? Anyone

53:16

in this room?

53:17

Nobody in this room?

53:18

I have never met anyone on the right that thinks

53:20

David Koresh is a hero.

53:22

Now there might be some radical,

53:25

really anti-government out there,

53:27

something or other that does, but you see how

53:29

he conflates that with every, he's a hero

53:32

on the right, he's

53:33

a hero on the right. This is the same clown

53:36

who a month ago got eviscerated

53:38

by Russell Brand for saying that nobody

53:41

on MSNBC intentionally lies. Then

53:43

we showed you a massive compilation

53:45

of him lying on MSNBC and then the guy blocked

53:47

me on Twitter. But for those of you who forgot,

53:50

here's Russell just taking them apart.

53:53

Have to take responsibility

53:55

for our own perspective. I've been

53:57

on that MSNBC, mate. It was propaganda.

54:00

this nutcracker-y on there. I went

54:02

on the show called Morning Joe. It was

54:04

absurd the way they carried on. Good Morning Joe. Yeah,

54:07

I don't know what it was. It wasn't morning. There was no one

54:09

called Joe there. No one could concentrate. They didn't

54:11

understand the basic tenets of journalism.

54:14

No

54:14

one was willing to stick up for genuine

54:16

American heroes like Edward Snowden.

54:18

No one was willing to talk about Julian

54:21

Assange and what he suffered trying to bring real

54:23

journalism to the American people.

54:26

And I think to sit

54:28

within

54:28

the castle of MSNBC throwing

54:31

rocks at Fox News is ludicrous. Make

54:34

MSNBC better. Make

54:36

MSNBC bring again. My friend, I would love.

54:40

I think that morning Joe, it's not in the

54:42

morning. There was no one named Joe there. It's

54:44

just like, anyway,

54:47

you get it. These people, they just lie about everything.

54:49

So now how can we wrap the show together today in

54:51

a positive way? I've had to apologize to you. I think

54:53

I cried a moment ago. It's been a lot today, right?

54:56

Okay, and this is serious stuff. This wasn't our funniest

54:58

show ever. But how can we bring this together in a sane

55:00

way? Look, for those of us that

55:03

are on this, what I would say is this broad right

55:05

coalition right now that's trying to figure out some

55:07

stuff and it's going to get difficult. It's

55:09

going to get difficult because we're fighting a bunch of people

55:12

who will yell at you and shout you down and call

55:14

you racist and lie about you and all that stuff that

55:16

you know. But it's also gonna get increasingly difficult

55:18

in the next year, especially because

55:20

of the presidential politics portion of this,

55:23

right? I've hit Trump a bit on this

55:25

show. No matter how many times I say I like the guy,

55:27

I went out of my way to support him. It cost

55:29

me a lot in friends and probably

55:32

sponsorships and a whole bunch of other stuff, but

55:34

I don't regret it in any way whatsoever. I

55:36

haven't been thrilled with some of his behavior lately.

55:39

But as I said, I sat down with as many

55:41

Republicans as possible. I sat down with

55:43

hardcore ones in the Trump camp like Lauren

55:45

Boebert and Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz and talked to

55:47

them about their support for Trump and they know

55:49

my feelings

55:50

about DeSantis. And then I sat down with guys like

55:53

Chip Roy and Thomas Massey, who are, let's say, more in

55:55

the DeSantis camp. How

55:57

are we going to do this without destroying

55:59

each other?

56:00

Or will we destroy each other?

56:01

Maybe that's what the machine really wants, right?

56:03

We will actually destroy each other. And then congratulations,

56:06

we get four more years of a mentally

56:09

scrambled Joe Biden in the White

56:11

House. Well, I talked about just that with

56:13

Matt Gaetz, and I thought that would be a nice way to

56:15

tie this all together. Gaetz knowing

56:18

that

56:18

I'm more in the DeSantis camp at the moment and he's

56:20

more in the Trump camp. And what do we do with

56:23

that? AOC,

56:26

you guys passed the parents' rights and education

56:28

thing and she's calling it fascism. Hakeem

56:30

Jeffries is saying they don't want to teach about the Holocaust. It's

56:33

just like lies and craziness. Is

56:35

there anyone in there that can sort of stem

56:37

that? Or do you think that's just about it? Well, broadly, I don't

56:39

know the answer to that question, but I

56:42

do think we have to be willing to

56:45

create alliances around issue

56:47

sets where we may have common

56:49

ground. Take, for example, the

56:51

surveillance state that we have. I get

56:54

real squeamish about

56:55

the powers that the Patriot Act and other

56:57

laws have fused into the

56:59

national security state to deprive

57:02

Americans of their liberties often in the absence of

57:04

constitutional protections. And I can

57:06

find Democrats like

57:09

Zoe Loftrin on the Judiciary Committee or

57:11

Ro Khanna in the Progressive Delegation who

57:13

will actually work with me to try to

57:16

build enduring coalitions against

57:18

an establishment that also includes

57:20

both Republicans and Democrats.

57:23

I'm sorry, we showed you a different clip right there.

57:25

there is a clip that we'll show you tomorrow

57:28

or that you'll see in the full interview, which I think the full

57:31

interview's up already, right? The full interview's up already.

57:33

It was the clip that I was referring to. We just got back late last

57:35

night, so we had a little error there, where I

57:37

talked to him about the DeSantis Trump thing. And

57:39

we sort of agreed to disagree and walked away

57:41

there, like kinda high-fiving and shaking

57:44

hands, and it's all good. Obviously, what we were talking

57:46

about there was the other theme of the

57:48

show today, which was that hopefully

57:51

we can find some people. Hopefully Gates can

57:53

find some people. He mentioned one or two right there.

57:55

We'll keep putting our hands out. I promise you, I will keep

57:58

trying to interview people. on

58:00

the left if they will sit down. I will

58:02

keep trying to do it.

58:03

I will keep trying to not

58:05

go scorched earth

58:07

when it comes to

58:09

whatever's gonna happen with Trump and or DeSantis

58:12

or anyone else. Like that's gonna be the challenge.

58:14

It will be very easy to do the other thing. It's very

58:16

easy to be the bowman of the situation. It's

58:19

very easy to just scream and find enemies

58:21

everywhere but we're gonna have to do some work. Just

58:23

one final thing for today. Wall Street Journal

58:26

put out a poll a couple days ago that's

58:28

really, really fascinating about some disturbing

58:31

trends in America right now, talking

58:33

about values. Take a look at this. What

58:35

this is showing you here, from 1998 to 2023, so

58:40

in a 25 year span, patriotism

58:43

has dropped. The belief in the importance of patriotism

58:46

has dropped from 70 to 38%. The

58:49

belief in the importance of religion

58:51

has dropped from 62 to 39%.

58:54

The importance of having children,

58:58

59% to 30%, community involvement, 47%

58:59

to 27%. The

59:04

belief in the importance of money, 31, which

59:06

has risen to 43%, which might have something

59:09

to do with the amount of inflation we have, people are like, oh,

59:11

I do wish I had some more money. But

59:13

yes, guys, this is disturbing. Those

59:17

numbers are all going in the wrong way. I am not

59:19

sitting here telling you that you have to

59:21

believe in a particular religion. I

59:23

am not sitting here telling you you have to have a flag

59:25

waving outside of your house. we've got a pretty massive

59:27

one inside of my house, or any

59:29

of those things. But if we don't get back

59:32

to a place where we have

59:34

something common, whether that is

59:36

a belief in the United States of America as

59:38

a fundamentally decent project, whether

59:41

that is a belief in God or

59:43

something beyond ourself, whether

59:45

it is a belief that being part of your community

59:48

matters, your local community, so

59:50

that you

59:52

walk down the street and you don't get shot and people

59:54

actually take their garbage out and

59:57

clean up when they see trash and all of those things.

1:00:00

It can derail pretty quickly. So

1:00:02

it is a battle for the culture and we have to decide

1:00:04

what do we care about? What are our priorities? What

1:00:07

are our shared beliefs? I'm gonna keep doing

1:00:09

it. I'm gonna keep trying to expand those things

1:00:11

right along with you guys. It is gonna get tough.

1:00:13

It's gonna get tough. Like this thing is going, this

1:00:16

DeSantis Trump thing is going to get tough

1:00:18

and nasty and everything else. But

1:00:20

I'll tell you guys, having been in D.C. for three

1:00:23

days, I left the city, believe it or not. And

1:00:25

when you watch my interview with Kevin McCarthy, I think you'll

1:00:28

see it. He says something about how

1:00:30

he still, every day he goes

1:00:32

into that Capitol, he still feels

1:00:34

a sense of awe, and I do believe him. I

1:00:36

feel it when I go in there. It's like

1:00:38

great people over generations

1:00:41

and hundreds of years created

1:00:43

these structures, meaning these physical structures,

1:00:46

but then also these documents that

1:00:48

did so much freaking good. We've still

1:00:50

got it so freaking good,

1:00:52

but we have to be able to defend

1:00:54

it, and we have to know when forces

1:00:56

are coming to take it out, and we have to figure

1:00:59

out how we deal with that in a decent

1:01:01

way, in a law abiding way. We

1:01:03

got a lot of work to do, but as I often

1:01:05

say, I have nothing better to do than save

1:01:07

the world. And I suspect you don't either in 37 seconds.

1:01:11

I'll be doing a post game show. If you wanna ask me any questions,

1:01:13

comment. Did I screw up anything today?

1:01:16

Let me know. Did I play too many clips

1:01:18

of MSNBC? I think we can all agree the answer is

1:01:20

yes. My full interview with Dan

1:01:22

Crenshaw is already up on YouTube and

1:01:24

Rumble, the full one with Matt Gaetz is

1:01:26

already up on YouTube and Rumble. all the others, and I think

1:01:29

it was about 12 in total, we'll be going

1:01:31

up over the next couple of days. We're doing

1:01:33

them all as full, right?

1:01:35

What's that?

1:01:36

Lauren Boebert will be up later today, and we're

1:01:38

putting them up all as full, right? They're all going up as

1:01:40

full interviews. We may do some clips after,

1:01:42

but we just wanted, we did so many that we didn't want

1:01:44

to bludgeon you guys with a gajillion clips. So

1:01:46

that'll all be going up, and all right, postgame

1:01:49

show in just a moment, cold clothes, and I'll see everybody

1:01:51

at roomandreports.locals.com. Goodbye.

1:02:32

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