Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:00
Yes, what is going on? Everybody. Welcome back
0:02
to another rugby
0:04
muscle podcast. I'm your host as always
0:06
TJ. And in this
0:08
episode, we've got a little bit of a treat
0:11
for you. Firstly, I
0:13
want to apologize for missing last
0:15
week's episode. I had to
0:17
go to hospital because of
0:19
a nasty staph infection got Ivy
0:21
antibiotics, absolutely kicked my ass.
0:24
And that happens to be the week where we were
0:27
scheduling everything ahead of time. And
0:29
it forced me to basically skip the
0:31
week. We are still continuing with our
0:33
weekly episodes. Um, delving
0:36
deep into everything, strength
0:38
and conditioning. We're actually going to move into nutrition
0:41
for a few weeks. And then we will
0:43
talk about position specific training.
0:45
On top of that, we've got a nice
0:48
schedule of podcasts where
0:50
we will be interviewing. A number of
0:52
different guys that interested me. And I
0:54
think in turn will interest you. So we've
0:56
got coaches coming up. We've
0:58
got, uh, people that we've already interviewed where
1:00
we're doing some updates and we've got some
1:03
just. Yeah, interesting chats. I really do
1:05
think that you're going to enjoy it. What is to come
1:07
on the podcast, going into this. Going
1:10
into the summer. Speaking
1:12
of going into the summer. Summer is
1:15
right around the corner. And so with
1:17
that in mind, I know that summer
1:19
is vacation season, holiday, season
1:21
tops off season. Get in your best
1:24
shape and show your rig season. And
1:26
so I wanted to repost one of
1:28
our most popular. Uh, most
1:30
highly rated episodes from the past.
1:33
And that is the lessons that I have learned. In
1:35
coaching massive. Body
1:38
composition changes. I think you guys
1:40
are going to get a lot out of this one.
1:42
So definitely worth the repost
1:44
and worth listening. I hope you really do enjoy
1:46
it. Um, and if you do, of course,
1:48
don't forget to give us a five-star review on
1:51
the Spotify and hit the three dots. Let
1:53
us know. What you think of
1:55
the show? If you have any requests
1:57
for guests. On any upcoming episodes
2:00
also hit the three dots and leave a
2:02
comment there as well. Any questions as well? Hit
2:05
the three dots. How many times I'm going to say it hit
2:07
the three dots on Spotify. if you're not listening on Spotify,
2:10
then. I guess just give us a five-star
2:12
review. However, you can very much appreciate
2:15
let's get into this episode. Uh, what
2:17
I've learned, coaching massive body
2:19
composition and fat loss transformations.
2:23
So when it comes to big transformations
2:25
and body composition changes, this is obviously at
2:27
the heart of the fitness industry. It's what it's about, those
2:29
before and after pictures, and they are
2:31
always good to look at, but some more
2:33
often than not, it's not appreciated the work
2:35
that's gone in, either because it's just not believed
2:37
or because it's overhyped as some sort of special training
2:40
regime or supplement or whatever. To
2:43
elicit that change. Unfortunately, that's not the
2:45
reality. It's there's lots of Common
2:48
themes that go into making these
2:50
big body composition changes and that's what we're going
2:52
to be discussing in this video But before I do I
2:54
would like to invite you Right now to
2:56
hit the thumbs up button because that will
2:58
promote this video. It will help the channel. Obviously
3:01
it's going to make me feel good, but it's more about helping this
3:03
video reach people that fall
3:05
for nonsense hypey things
3:08
when it comes to this fitness industry. I'm
3:10
not a big fan of what the fitness industry
3:12
does and the way it misleads. So
3:14
with this video, we're going to get into actually what
3:16
it does take to make a big drastic
3:19
body composition change. I was gonna say nothing special about
3:21
these guys, but they're, I mean, obviously they're all special.
3:23
They're all, like, impressive transformations. Most
3:26
of which are going to be big amounts of fat loss
3:29
with a little amount of muscle gain along
3:31
with it. Some, a bit more muscle gain,
3:33
but overall, as you can see, each one of these would
3:35
be considered a transformation. And all of
3:37
these guys that did this, yes, they put in hard
3:39
work, but they also, You know, they
3:42
applied these lessons that I'm going to get into.
3:45
And actually at the beginning. They might
3:47
have been skeptical that they could have made this big
3:49
change, you know, they're not necessarily like
3:51
wouldn't believe you at all if you were to
3:53
like, you know, come from the future and show them this
3:56
after picture, but they would be
3:58
like pleasantly surprised. At least, you know,
4:00
it's not something that they knew they were going to achieve.
4:02
They look back and they're very happy with this progress
4:05
and maybe somewhat surprised, but they
4:07
obviously made that change. So let's get
4:09
into it. Number one nutrition is
4:11
everything. We know this, right? You
4:14
wouldn't have expected it would have been weird if I'd have got
4:16
into a body transformation video without addressing
4:18
nutrition. Sometimes training regimes
4:20
do that. And the reality is that training
4:22
regimes like are a small contributor
4:24
to a body transformation, obviously
4:27
a little bit more when it comes to gaining muscle,
4:30
but not as much as nutrition still, because
4:33
you cannot out train a bad diet.
4:35
Poor nutrition is always going to
4:37
lead to poor results. So train nutrition
4:39
needs to be there. And then training can facilitate
4:42
that change. But if nutrition is not there,
4:44
then it is incredibly difficult
4:47
to make any sort of body composition change,
4:49
body transformation, even like
4:51
if you do the best muscle gain in training ever,
4:53
if you're not eating enough, if you're not eating enough protein.
4:56
Or if you're doing the best, you know, the highest
4:58
intensity, you're doing all the work that you can
5:00
with your training to try and lose that fat, but
5:02
you're eating too many calories again,
5:05
you're just not going to make that transformation. Yes. With
5:07
training, you can make some training adaptations,
5:10
right? Your body can adapt that way. They can
5:12
become more powerful and stronger. But
5:14
when it comes to body composition, it is
5:16
everything. Everything is nutrition,
5:18
right? And these people
5:21
that have made these body transformations, some
5:23
will already have good nutrition in place and they don't
5:25
need to make too many adjustments. I
5:27
still find that they need to quantify
5:29
stuff, particularly as they make bigger
5:32
and bigger and more impressive changes.
5:34
There will be some level of quantification
5:36
in there that just to, just to know how
5:38
much protein, how many calories are general themes.
5:41
It doesn't have to be Tracking every
5:43
single day, every single gram has to be
5:45
perfect. It's more about just getting
5:47
quantities down that they can then
5:49
use to, you know, adjust
5:52
as they need to, to get this big
5:54
body transformation. Some will
5:56
need to quantify, you know, and
5:58
they don't have good habits and just quantifying itself
6:01
Helps them along the way because they start to learn
6:04
about their nutrition. They start to learn about the different
6:06
foods that they're eating and the,
6:08
you know, the amount of calories, the amount of carbohydrates,
6:10
maybe the amount of protein and fat as well. But
6:13
they start to learn about the different foods. They also learn
6:15
about their habits as far as, you know, when
6:17
they're hungry, because now they're, you know,
6:19
they're having to be conscious every time they eat,
6:22
it's impossible to do unconscious snacking
6:24
when you've got to consciously write it down
6:26
every single time you eat. You know, a lot of people
6:28
will eliminate a large degree
6:30
of their snacking simply because they're logging. So
6:33
obviously that helps with their habits, but it helps
6:35
them just become conscious of it. It's not. That
6:37
they're, they hate snacking. It's just that they didn't
6:39
even know they snacked when they were watching TV
6:42
or whatever it was. Right. It's that they've
6:44
learned the habits by becoming conscious.
6:47
A lot of people, it's that unconscious
6:49
eating that ends up sabotaging them because they
6:51
don't even really register the fact that
6:53
they're eating these snacks because they're distracted.
6:56
They're doing something else whilst they're doing it. Then there
6:58
are other people that just have horrendous
7:00
nutrition. You know, I would say horrendous
7:02
is in like, they barely eat any protein. They're barely
7:04
proactive about. What they even want
7:06
or even having a breakfast lunch and dinner
7:08
or even four different meals or whatever, you know
7:11
Or should I say let alone four to
7:13
five meals throughout the day? They have no idea
7:15
and these people will still quantify
7:17
over time, but their main
7:20
Priority would be to learn
7:22
the basics learn to have structured
7:25
meals be predictable enough with
7:27
their nutrition That they can then
7:29
build a base to then, you know, have the habits
7:31
and then quantify off of after that if you're just
7:34
If you're someone that doesn't eat or has
7:36
no idea how much protein you're eating You have
7:38
no idea what your next meal is
7:40
going to be You have no idea about the amount of vegetables
7:42
you're eating you you just eat what's given to you and
7:44
that's it like Then you need
7:47
to get some basics down first before
7:49
you even have to worry about tracking because tracking is
7:51
just going to be an Extra layer of complexity
7:53
that you don't need at that point And
7:55
in fact that leads me to my next point about
7:57
these body transformations if I can
7:59
press the slide. There we go. Simplicity
8:01
is Key. Too
8:03
many people when they're looking for a body transformation
8:06
look for perfection on week one
8:08
These guys did not because the
8:10
reality is week one makes no
8:13
difference, right? And in fact it can actually lead
8:15
to a negative because you put so much emphasis on
8:17
getting everything perfect You put so much focus
8:19
and energy and motivation
8:22
Into getting week one perfect and obviously Like
8:24
no big changes are going to happen within one
8:26
week and then that can be kind of disheartening
8:29
it kills momentum And then you've realized oh
8:31
my god. I've put so much effort into this week one I've got
8:33
to do this for you know, several several
8:35
several more weeks more months going
8:37
into the future to even see a change I
8:39
don't think this is going to be worth it and then you drop it right
8:42
instead You should take that first
8:45
week to sort of find a groove. And
8:47
it's not about tracking all of the
8:49
minutia and getting everything down to the perfect gram.
8:52
It's about building the habits about getting
8:54
close enough. It's about doing your nutrition well
8:56
enough so that you can find a groove that
8:59
after a few weeks, You know, then you
9:01
can feel that momentum come and you can feel
9:03
it fitting in with your life. And
9:05
in fact, because it takes a few weeks to find
9:07
that groove, it works doubly well
9:09
because it also takes a few weeks to
9:12
see the transformation or the, see
9:14
the, you know, the body composition changes in the mirror.
9:17
That doesn't really happen usually after a week.
9:19
It will happen after a few weeks if
9:21
you're doing things right. And then even then,
9:23
once you've got onto the track, sometimes you won't
9:25
see after a few weeks, but then it will take a few
9:27
more weeks after that to really notice it.
9:30
Because these changes are slowly happening
9:32
over time, and, you know, if you apply
9:35
more and more and more time, then they're gonna be
9:37
bigger and bigger and bigger changes, and that's why
9:39
you need to find a groove, you need to make it fit
9:41
in with your life. And that's what happened with these people,
9:44
they fit their, their nutrition
9:46
in with their life, which allowed them to stay
9:48
consistent, which obviously then allows
9:50
them to get the change, and not just get a change,
9:53
you know, anyone that makes a change, Within
9:55
a month or two months. Yes,
9:57
that's kind of impressive, but it's more impressive
9:59
is, is if you can keep that body
10:01
transformation, you can keep that new physique that
10:04
you've now attained. That's more impressive.
10:06
And for the most part, at least keep like 80 to 90
10:08
percent of it. Unfortunately,
10:10
most, we don't have a problem
10:12
losing fat. We don't have a problem making these
10:14
transformations. We have a problem keeping them
10:16
because so many people have lost a few pounds
10:19
and then fallen off the wagon, right? These
10:21
people are able to make a huge
10:23
transformation because they found a routine.
10:25
A regime, if, if you will, that
10:28
fits in with their life and allow
10:30
them to keep the change. And because they've done
10:32
that, they've been able to stay consistent,
10:34
right? No matter what's happening with their rugby
10:36
season, you see this a lot of people, the time
10:39
with rugby players where they'll get in season,
10:41
they'll say, I'm playing every weekend, there's no way I can
10:43
diet, or I'm playing every weekend,
10:45
there's no way that I can even bother training
10:47
to try and gain muscle. You know, or
10:50
you see this with people when they get in
10:52
season and that's the
10:54
time, or pre season even, I've done a video about
10:56
this. There's, that's when they decide
10:58
that that's when they've got to get fit, and when they're not playing
11:01
rugby, they don't do anything, you know? That's
11:03
not the approach that you need to take if you want
11:05
to make a dramatic change. You have to,
11:08
you know, apply this consistently over
11:10
periods of months, which will cross through
11:12
the off season, the in season, and the pre season.
11:15
And the whole time You will be training.
11:17
Training becomes a priority for
11:19
these people to make this change before
11:21
this transformation. A lot of these people were still in the gym,
11:24
but it was somewhat sporadic, right? It would be
11:26
dropped if it was inconvenient. If you had
11:28
any sort of social plans, if work got stressful,
11:30
if you know whatever happened, you would look for
11:32
an excuse or these people would look for an excuse. To
11:35
kind of skip the gym, but that's not the reality
11:37
with the training process. It has to be consistent.
11:40
You're not just trying to get the perfect
11:42
first week. So you really push it. No, you're just going
11:44
into the gym and you tick in the box,
11:46
you know, perfect first weeks or special
11:48
training programs. Again, that's magic bullets.
11:50
That's hype. That's what the fitness industry is trying
11:52
to sell you. But the reality is that
11:55
it doesn't exist, right? It's training
11:57
is about the process and just being consistent
11:59
and ticking the box every time. And every now
12:01
and again, yet when the weeks are cool
12:03
for it, you can absolutely push the intensity
12:05
when it is needed. But for the most
12:07
part, you're going into the gym, you're ticking the box,
12:10
you're not expecting the big body transformation.
12:12
Because of a couple of weeks of going to the gym,
12:14
you're expecting the big body transformation because
12:16
of the consistency that you've applied. And
12:19
these people also stayed consistent when it
12:21
comes to socials. And what I mean by that is
12:23
both sides of the coin, right? They stayed
12:25
consistent with their nutrition to an extent.
12:28
When it came to socials, but they also stayed consistent
12:30
by keeping their social commitments in
12:33
their life. They didn't just drop everything and say, Oh, I'm
12:35
going to diet for eight weeks. I can't do anything
12:37
fun. That's not sustainable. Obviously,
12:39
that's not going to work. You have to keep a social
12:41
life, particularly as a rugby player. There are socials
12:44
that are important for you to be a part of your team.
12:47
And I would encourage you, even if you're making,
12:49
you know, the most drastic body transformation that you
12:51
could to still attend
12:53
these socials and be a part of them and
12:55
obviously enjoy them. Now, there are several
12:57
different ways that these guys that made these transformations,
13:00
I handled it with them as part of their coaching. Some
13:03
of them we would just say, okay, this day is a wash,
13:05
but it doesn't need to, you know, a binge
13:07
for the next few days. Actually, it doesn't need to
13:09
any binge within itself. You're just going to enjoy that
13:11
day. You're not trying to get as
13:13
many calories in because this is your one
13:15
day off the wagon. No, you have to still stay fairly
13:18
consistent. Others, we would set aside
13:20
calories. So we would lower calories down for the
13:22
summer or we, you know, budget calories
13:24
by Increasing the training in the
13:26
days leading up or the day of, that's
13:28
quite rare, but it would still be a tactic
13:31
that we could use or lowering the calories around
13:33
the social. That would also happen or,
13:35
or the day of, if it was a big social
13:38
event, maybe, you know, we would, Practice
13:41
lowering the calories for breakfast or whatever it was.
13:43
There were several different tactics we had. And one of the
13:45
biggest tactics that we did with these
13:47
socials was to say, okay, this
13:49
is just going to be a dealer or a time or
13:51
some of your time off, particularly when we're looking
13:54
at like tours or we're looking at going
13:56
away for a vacation. This
13:58
sort of thing is the perfect time for
14:00
a time off. You don't really want to be
14:02
taking a week vacation. And thinking,
14:04
oh my god, I've got to stick to my diet and I've got to do everything
14:06
perfect. Likewise, you
14:09
still shouldn't be going on vacation and going,
14:11
oh my god, I'm off my diet, I'm going to eat everything
14:13
in sight. Both of those things are
14:15
going to lead to a bad time. When
14:17
you're going on vacation, it's a good time to have a planned
14:19
pause, because then, you know, you're not going
14:21
on vacation just to eat. Whereas if you were
14:23
saying, you know, if you were going to a Chinese buffet,
14:26
and that was your one meal off, then, you know, you're gonna
14:28
get several plates and you're probably gonna overdo it.
14:31
Whereas if you're just on a vacation, you're still,
14:33
you're just enjoying yourself, and you're enjoying your food as
14:35
part of that. And we would make a few simple rules,
14:37
just to make sure the wheels didn't completely come off
14:39
and we had to undo a load of bad
14:42
when we come back. But it still wasn't overly
14:44
restrictive and that way you know
14:46
we're not getting the binges that take us away
14:49
from our goal because obviously like the
14:51
longer you do these pauses and the more you
14:53
do these pauses. Like the longer
14:55
it's going to take you to eventually reach your
14:57
end goal and these people understood
15:00
that so, you know When it was time for their pause, they
15:02
took it but they took a pragmatic approach They
15:04
didn't feel the stress of having to diet But they also
15:06
didn't feel the guilt of you
15:08
know having a terrible binge or even like
15:11
just staying or straying slightly
15:13
away from the diet because it was Plan
15:15
time off and these plan pauses are important
15:17
times to sort of reset the motivation
15:20
Battery to get you excited
15:22
to die again to excite to make more changes
15:25
But also prepare you for
15:27
life I guess when you're not dying
15:29
because you're not supposed to be dying all the time,
15:31
you know It just gives you a bit of a break
15:33
because it is a constant underlying
15:35
stress trying to adhere to strict
15:38
ish nutrition rules if you're trying to make
15:40
this change and By default because
15:42
you're trying to make a change means you're trying to do
15:44
something different. It's going to be
15:47
causing Underlying stress. So if
15:49
you just take some planned pauses, it's
15:51
always going to help as and when they're needed
15:53
The other cool thing about these pauses is you
15:55
know, they give you a deadline to to work towards
15:58
It's not you're going to be sticking with this diet That
16:00
is somewhat restrictive for the
16:02
foreseeable future or forever. You've got a light
16:04
at the end of the tunnel where you say, okay, I'm going to work for
16:06
a few weeks or for six weeks or for
16:09
three months. And then I'm going to take a planned pause
16:11
and then we can re go again, or we can assess
16:13
where I need to be once I'm there. That
16:15
allows you to, again, Practice the
16:17
habits, you know, that you've learned whilst
16:20
you're dieting in a less restricted state
16:23
so that you're not always dieting
16:25
or undoing the work of that
16:27
diet, but allows you to be less
16:30
totally restrictive, but still practice
16:32
and sort of get yourself rid of
16:34
all of that underlying stress that comes with
16:36
it. The bigger transformation that we're trying to make,
16:38
the stricter we're being. And it gives you that opportunity
16:41
to just get yourself rid of
16:43
all of this underlying stress that comes
16:46
with dieting because of that change. You
16:48
know, that you're making on a, on a continual basis,
16:50
on a day to day basis, you're having to do something
16:52
that Is still not quite who
16:54
you are, right? Does that make sense?
16:57
Let me know if it makes sense I'm sort of rambling here, right?
16:59
So final point i'll
17:01
say on this is that it still takes
17:03
time away From the
17:06
transformation process, right? So
17:08
we're not looking to do as many pauses
17:10
as we can because We know that that's
17:12
going to help sometimes like we
17:14
need to just to grit our teeth and get into
17:16
the work that needs to be done. We need to
17:18
keep an eye on the calories that we're intaking.
17:21
We need to keep consistent in the gym and
17:23
taking a planned pause just for the sake of taking
17:25
a planned pause because we think it's good is
17:27
still it's not always a great idea. Planned
17:30
pauses are great when the time is needed, vacations,
17:32
socials, extra stressful times at work.
17:35
There are definite times for planned pauses
17:37
to really help push on from in the future.
17:39
Also when someone is overly stressed with
17:41
their diet and they just, you know, just can't
17:43
see that, you know, their motivation is starting
17:45
to drop. Those are great times for planned pauses,
17:48
but it still has to be acknowledged that these planned
17:50
pauses, whilst they're great, are still
17:52
taking time away from
17:54
that end goal of the transformation, right? So
17:57
if you were to do, let's just. Pluck out
17:59
some numbers out of my ass. It could take say
18:01
a transformation that took 12 weeks. We're
18:03
in the middle of it. We're now going to take a two week pause.
18:06
Well, now that transformation is going to take 14
18:08
weeks. So we're pushing that date back of, of our
18:10
sort of end goal. And obviously,
18:12
you know, we're not dealing with a specific
18:14
date that has to be done by, but
18:17
we are dealing with a physique that we're pushing
18:20
back and back and back and back at an end goal
18:22
that we are pushing back by taking these pauses. And
18:24
we're acknowledging that are a net benefit
18:26
when they are a net benefit.
18:29
But we're not taking them for the sake of taking a
18:31
planned board. On to the next overarching
18:33
theme of these body transformations.
18:35
None of them were bulking. In
18:38
fact, when you're trying to lose fat, like,
18:41
You can be kidded into thinking
18:43
bulking would be a good idea just because
18:45
subconsciously you want to eat more food
18:48
and you want to eat all of the food. Bulking,
18:50
you know, I hate the term. Bulking is a terrible
18:52
term, but it's what people understand, so I'm
18:54
going to go with it for this one. And unfortunately
18:56
it ends up being a real slippery slope and more
18:59
often than not is way
19:01
more of a net negative than it is a positive.
19:04
Bulking or gaining mass should only be
19:06
done when you're eating. Once good habits are in
19:08
place, and that's what happened with these transformations. In fact,
19:11
I think maybe, you know, I can
19:13
count on my hand the amount of times that we, we really
19:15
focused on bulking and we really had to really
19:17
push the food. For the most part,
19:20
people that need to push the food already have a
19:22
decent enough physique, and if they're
19:24
the people that just forget about eating,
19:26
and if they're stressful, they have to, you know,
19:29
just be proactive about getting in enough
19:31
calories. And that's again more about performance
19:33
than it is about gaining muscle. There
19:36
are still different ways that we can handle
19:38
it, but the most important thing I want to stress
19:40
here is that it's way too easy
19:42
when we're looking to gain muscle and people want to do
19:44
it at the end of a diet because they want
19:46
to eat more food because they've been restricted and
19:48
they really want to see how much food that they can
19:51
eat and enjoy. Eating food
19:53
and tell themselves that yes, I'm I'm
19:55
bulking. I'm allowed to do all of this when in reality.
19:57
That's not the case You're not going to be gaining muscle
19:59
that fast that you need to force the nutrition
20:02
or force feed yourself calories and
20:04
really ramp up the carbs Because the reality
20:06
is that if you're someone that's had to really
20:09
focus to lose fat, like
20:11
eating enough calories comes easy to you. In
20:13
fact, it comes too easy to you. That's why
20:15
you gain the weight in the first place. And so, rather
20:17
than, you know, go for the traditional bulking approach,
20:20
normally what we would do is just look
20:22
at slightly higher calories than the dieting.
20:25
And these people would still have to keep the same
20:27
habits, right, in those slightly
20:29
higher calories to stop them from overeating.
20:31
Because overeating can still be really easy. And
20:33
in fact, what we would use is And
20:36
even when they would go, you know, they would go out
20:38
to eat for socials and they would have like Because
20:41
again, people look to bulk because they want
20:43
to eat these quote unquote dirty foods
20:46
and they want to go out and have a real good time
20:48
at restaurants and stuff. That's fine, but
20:50
that still has to be included within your higher
20:52
calories, right? You still have to learn the lessons to keep
20:54
things under control. And so
20:57
that's a really important point that people that
20:59
are looking to bulk and these people at the end of their
21:01
body transformations. Had to remember right?
21:03
Sometimes we didn't even put their
21:05
calories up much at all. And in fact, we
21:07
always just said was there's, you know, two to
21:10
three times a week when you go out to eat or
21:12
when you feel like it, you can have a meal that's
21:14
higher calories, and that's going to be enough
21:17
to, um, keep
21:19
you away from a deficit, keep you in a
21:22
surplus to allow you to gain muscle. But
21:24
it's not going to be so much that you're going to gain fat. Thanks
21:26
to the fitness industry. We kind of get crazily
21:28
overly optimistic of the amount of muscle
21:31
that we can gain in a short period
21:33
of time, like even six months, if
21:35
you can gain a pound a month for six months, that
21:37
is absolutely phenomenal progress. And I wouldn't
21:39
expect it for most people.
21:42
Like that's just the reality. That's why I've put Johnny sex
21:44
in here. Because particularly when we're looking
21:46
at rugby players when it comes to gaining muscle
21:49
That can't be the only priority when you're in the
21:51
gym There has to be other things going on and
21:53
johnny secton here is looking pretty jack But
21:55
he's also like now in his like late 30s
21:57
or at least past his mid 30s So
21:59
it's taken him, you know 10
22:02
to 15 years Plus to gain
22:04
this amount of muscle to look this impressive. If you look
22:06
here, he was always smaller and smaller and smaller. He didn't
22:08
just do this over a period of three
22:10
to six months. No, he did this over years. And
22:12
that's the way it has to be. If
22:14
you want to gain muscle mass as a rugby player,
22:16
you have to adhere to this process of
22:19
training in order to
22:21
facilitate that muscle gain and nutrition
22:23
can't obviously is then a part of it, but it becomes
22:25
performance nutrition. You eat to perform at
22:27
your best. Whilst not gaining
22:29
fat that's that's kind of it That's kind
22:31
of how bulking for rugby players
22:34
should be working and that's that's the approach that
22:36
these guys would take Particularly the ones that gain muscle.
22:38
That's it. There's an occasional trim up like once
22:40
a year where you know It's either, you
22:43
know, from one to two months to maybe
22:45
three months where you would just trim up the excess
22:47
fat that you might have gained from one
22:49
too many socials. But throughout the
22:51
year, the main goal is just to
22:53
eat enough and eat well enough to
22:55
keep performing. And that way, you know, you've got
22:57
that monkey off your back. And that's why I encourage
22:59
transformations like this to happen at the front
23:01
end where You lose that fat
23:04
so that you and build the good habits so that then
23:06
you can focus on your performance nutrition so that you
23:08
can eat to train at your best without
23:10
worrying about gaining excess fat because
23:12
you've got a little bit of wiggle room
23:15
because you're not already, you know, carrying
23:17
too much lard. Hopefully that
23:19
makes sense, right? You get that monkey off your back of
23:21
that fat loss so that you don't have to worry about
23:23
it. So you don't have to worry about performing at your best and
23:26
still losing fat. No, you know,
23:28
you've lost that fat. Now your only focus
23:30
is performing at your best and then occasionally. Once
23:32
a year or so, you'll try and trim that up if you
23:34
really need to, but otherwise all your focus
23:37
and resources can be into performing at your
23:39
best. And if you do that and you train efficiently
23:41
and you do the right sort of training, you're going
23:43
to gain muscle. Look at Johnny Sexton here,
23:45
right? That's not, he's not been training
23:47
like a bodybuilder for years and he's not got
23:49
the best genetics for building muscle yet. He's
23:51
built himself, you know, or at least a pretty
23:54
jacked arm, if not a bit of a weird farmer's
23:56
tan. Because of that years of work that he's
23:58
been able to put into the gym and the nutrition
24:00
that he's sort of allowed himself to perform
24:02
at his best. And, and that's why he's still in
24:05
his late thirties and performing at
24:07
a ridiculously high level, as you've
24:09
seen in the past few weeks in this
24:11
Island test series, actually you've seen in the past
24:13
couple of years. Still with violin in
24:15
his late 30s performing at his best and
24:18
a final point that I want to make about these
24:20
big body transformations that I have helped
24:23
coach is the conditioning side
24:25
of things. A lot of people think, oh,
24:27
I'm getting fit and I'm losing fat and those
24:29
two are the same thing. Yes, conditioning can
24:31
be a part of this
24:34
process, but they're two separate
24:36
goals. They're very, very much interlinked,
24:39
but they're not the same thing, right? When
24:42
they are properly done together, right? So firstly,
24:45
if you're carrying less overall weight, right?
24:47
It's like you're not wearing a weighted vest. Imagine
24:49
playing a game. With an extra
24:52
10 kilo weighted vest, that game
24:54
would be significantly harder. Imagine doing a
24:56
fitness test with a 10 kilo or even a
24:58
five kilo weighted vest. That would make that
25:00
game much more difficult. Well, that's what you're
25:02
doing if you're carrying excess fat because that
25:04
fat is not helping you in any way
25:06
in your performance. So to take
25:08
that weight off. Obviously is going
25:11
to give not the illusion because
25:13
it actually is a reality of being
25:15
in Bettica's edition, but it's without
25:17
any sort of extra conditioning work. And
25:19
obviously with that, as I've already touched
25:22
on, once you've lost that weight, you can then obviously
25:24
eat to really perform at your best, which
25:26
is obviously going to really help your conditioning.
25:29
And whilst both of those things aren't directly
25:32
Affecting the actual conditioning side of things,
25:34
right? You're fueling yourself, it's just allowing
25:36
you to perform at your best and losing that fat
25:38
is just taking that weighted vest off. But they still
25:41
lead to a greater increase in performance,
25:43
which is what you're wanting at the end of the day. And
25:45
when you're looking at your training, now you've got
25:47
the freedom to really choose What
25:50
you want to improve about your performance. What
25:52
is it in your, in your rugby that you need
25:54
to improve? And a lot for a lot of these people that
25:56
are overweight, it is that conditioning
25:58
component, but they're not training for that fat
26:00
loss, right? They're training to improve
26:03
their conditioning. Yes. Training to improve
26:05
their conditioning is going to burn calories, which
26:07
is going to make fat loss that much easier.
26:09
And that's kind of. The interlinking and how
26:12
really synergistic these two things can be.
26:14
And it does really work well together, but they
26:16
were viewed as absolutely separate
26:18
things. They did, you know, in fact, these
26:20
guys did a lot of low intensity aerobic conditioning.
26:23
It's almost a fat burning zone if you're on a machine
26:26
in the gym, the aerobic zone as the
26:28
fat burning zone. But it's
26:30
also the zone where you can get most bang for your buck
26:32
as far as not causing a large
26:34
amount of fatigue and really improving
26:36
your aerobic system which will then fuel you
26:39
when you play rugby. Now I'm not going to go crazy
26:41
into like zone 2 and stuff, I've
26:43
done enough videos on that. You can go check out the rest
26:45
of the channel if you want to see more about why
26:47
aerobic work is so important for rugby.
26:50
But just understand that, you know, performance
26:53
training itself leads to
26:55
so much greater motivation
26:57
in training. It leads to a
26:59
better net fat loss result
27:02
because you're not just training for fat loss. I
27:04
don't think fat loss training really
27:06
exists, right? Working out to burn
27:08
calories like it fails over and over
27:10
again. Because we've mentioned at the very start
27:13
of this video, when it comes to
27:15
fat loss, nutrition is everything.
27:17
Performance training can help that, right,
27:19
because it's going to be a period of time, you
27:21
know, hour or so a day, give or take,
27:24
where you're going to be burning a higher
27:26
amount of calories than you are just doing nothing, and
27:28
it's going to, you know, which will then Give
27:30
you more calories to play with when it comes to your diet.
27:33
But at the end of the day, it's, it's a separate thing.
27:35
And these guys viewed their performance training
27:37
as a separate thing. They did that zone to work, to improve
27:39
their aerobic conditioning. Yes,
27:42
it caused minimal amount of fatigue and allowed
27:44
them to get a lot of fat loss done, but
27:46
that's not the point, right? They did that to, to
27:48
boost their aerobic system, not to elicit
27:50
fat loss. There was no working out
27:52
just to burn calories. That's, that's a stupid use
27:55
of your time. It's a waste of your time. Okay.
27:58
Because it can all be undone by one
28:00
bite of a cookie. And with that,
28:02
we'll go for one last final point,
28:04
the rugby physical preparation
28:07
pyramid. Now in this new rugby physical preparation
28:09
pyramid, obviously things have changed a little bit, but
28:11
for the most part, what you're going to see here and
28:13
what these guys shared in common wasn't even
28:15
like the level one human phase. Yes,
28:18
they worked on aerobic system, the strength
28:20
and the hypertrophy. Yes, those things
28:22
were done with these transformations. But
28:24
again, that was the training. The training
28:27
stuff was what built the pyramid. It's
28:29
not what elicits the fat loss. The fat loss comes
28:31
from that foundation. Some
28:34
people have great genetics and they're already
28:36
shredded and they come out the womb shredded and you
28:38
know, they're 12 or 13 and they've got six packs
28:40
and they've got like large amounts of muscle. Those are going
28:42
to be the professional players. Those are going to be the people
28:44
that you see if they ever go to
28:46
the gym, end up being post trainers that don't know anything
28:49
because they haven't learned the habits and the consistency
28:51
that is needed to really make a change. They've always
28:53
just been blessed. Looking great. Whereas
28:56
these people that made these transformations, their
28:59
focus was on the foundation as far
29:01
as habits and consistency goes. That's the big
29:03
focus, right? Don't get distracted
29:05
by the training. Don't get distracted by any of
29:07
the crazy stuff. That's not what these people
29:09
did. They stayed ridiculously consistent. They
29:12
kept things simple. They focused on their nutrition.
29:14
And then they allowed their training process
29:17
to allow them to improve their body
29:19
as far as playing rugby goes. And
29:21
obviously in turn that helped them with their fat
29:23
loss, but that wasn't the goal All
29:25
right that'll wrap this video up if you've made it to the end You haven't
29:27
already kicked thumbs up, please do so helps
29:30
us out And if you enjoyed this video if you made it
29:32
to here i'm assuming you found some stuff valuable
29:34
So Click that thumbs up button. Let me know
29:36
any points you agree or disagree with in the
29:38
comments below. If you want to work with rubbing
29:40
muscle, I'll put links to whatever
29:42
we've got available to you in the description
29:45
also below and subscribe if you are new
29:47
with that, I think I'm done here. See you guys
29:49
in the next one.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More