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you weren't even a listener yet? If

2:00

you can imagine that. yeah I

2:02

mean I think back and for

2:04

one of others us episodes on

2:06

the run through we had super

2:08

model Natalia Vodianova on and has

2:10

this agenda burns thou interview is

2:12

a real right here check her.

2:14

I was a surprise twist and

2:16

always so I let everyone listens

2:18

to that themselves. But later on

2:20

the cell we were visit an

2:22

interview Chama did with the savviest

2:24

Mchale a coal who is on

2:26

the cover of the November Twenty

2:28

Two issue and Chama. Went

2:30

to gonna with her, went

2:32

rollerblading and across as we

2:34

get to hear about all

2:37

of their rollerblading techniques and

2:39

Sears. Tower Growls and relation. there was a really

2:41

good trip in my have been one of the best

2:43

like folk troops have been. ah. Yes, That

2:45

that tries you know is a slight

2:47

pinch yourself you let I can't do

2:49

this year and it's my job. Yeah

2:51

yeah no the side but sometimes. A

2:54

spot. Before we get into that, we

2:57

should give a bit of context about

2:59

Natalia and her sister, and Italia and

3:01

Janna actually had never met each other

3:03

until Twenty Twenty One. They were separated

3:05

shortly after Jan his birth, so Natalia

3:07

was raised in Central Russia by single

3:09

mom. I mean, they had a really

3:11

difficult lies said the word to support

3:13

the family at age of eleven and

3:16

I think by the time her sister

3:18

who was hub mom's fourth came along,

3:20

I just think my mom had to

3:22

make a really difficult decision and in.

3:24

The. Beginning of this is to these italia

3:26

told us exactly what it was like to

3:28

be given. You

3:37

have a memory as the last time

3:39

you saw her were what it was

3:41

like leaving her. Yeah. And

3:44

at once in a hospital and

3:46

I wasn't alive should be com

3:49

so. I'll just. Put.

3:51

My hands should that the baby

3:53

bad to to just. Because

3:55

I wanted to Die sign. And she did

3:57

grab my. Finger. And

4:01

then I you know, of course

4:03

I I was crying my eyes

4:05

out and and we stayed like

4:08

this so as long as I

4:10

could and you. Know. In that in

4:12

that moment I. Kind

4:14

of quite stupid lead. Me

4:17

the problem is will seats as a game.

4:21

So. It's

4:23

was that. Really really is hard

4:25

to live with. Ah, So.

4:28

They be was named Masa Bus. She is

4:31

now Jenna Bugs Jenna was adopted by an

4:33

American couple who couldn't have children of their

4:35

own. Just. As she had

4:37

a very happy whole American childhood and

4:39

she never thought they would be a

4:41

chance to meet her biological family by

4:43

an annual checkups with her doctor. She

4:45

never knew how to sell out the

4:47

medical history and she subscribed to a

4:49

Dna app Italian Assist agenda join Us

4:51

and Paris and North Carolina. From.

4:54

What I knew about the circumstances I was

4:57

born into, I didn't expect to find any.

4:59

Family. I didn't

5:01

even know if they were allies. You.

5:04

Know I don't. My test results back and

5:06

I was healthy and then. Ah,

5:09

there she was. So. I.

5:11

Didn't know that she was before the

5:13

test. you know? I just googled her

5:15

name and I didn't even think it

5:17

was her. I was like oh that's

5:19

so funny. It's such a coincidence as

5:21

someone say missing. So

5:24

what did you do next? Nothing.

5:27

Of the. And

5:30

all of my research about her. You.

5:32

Know it sounds quite creepy, but I did

5:34

look into her lot. I knew

5:36

that no one knew I existed in as

5:38

city had quite a public life and I

5:40

wasn't part of it at the time so

5:42

I wasn't. I wasn't sure if he was. Interested

5:44

in a relationship so I really

5:47

didn't do anything. I didn't tell

5:49

anyone I think until like. The.

5:51

Guy was dating at the time and then like

5:53

two of my friends. I

5:55

think a couple weeks went by where I

5:58

was knowing this information or just like. I

6:01

typed up a message I didn't tell. Anyone I was

6:03

planning on messaging her, it was kind of a. Last.

6:06

Second decision: I was sitting in my room

6:08

at like two o'clock in the morning and

6:10

just couldn't sleep and so I just. Pulled

6:14

up my phone and center a message and

6:16

I wasn't sure if she would respond. I

6:18

mean I wanted the message so. Ah

6:21

yeah, I'll read it about it. Pulled

6:23

up on my phone. So.

6:25

I said ah hi. My name

6:27

is Jennifer Burns and I was

6:29

born in Nizhniy Novgorod in Nineteen

6:31

Ninety Nine. And have a name

6:34

that you know that I was given. According

6:36

to this the in a side you

6:38

could be my aunt or half sister.

6:40

I said that the doing a bit

6:42

of research I figured but you are

6:44

possibly. The same as model with the same

6:46

name. Whether. Or not this is

6:49

true. I want to emphasize that I'm not

6:51

trying to disrupt your personal life by contacting

6:53

you. I'm perfectly content and simply

6:55

knowing that you. Are alive and well. Feel.

6:58

Free to contact me again. However, if

7:00

you are not interested in a relationship,

7:02

I understand. This. Is all very

7:04

new for me as well. I did not expect

7:07

to find any close family members when picking the

7:09

scarf. Assuming you knew

7:11

of my existence and have possibly wondered

7:13

about me. As I have with

7:15

my biological family, I'll just leave you with

7:17

the knowledge that I'm happy and doing well

7:19

and I hope the same for you. While.

7:23

I'm getting goosebumps. His hearing you

7:25

read it lies in my face

7:27

when I read that. but I

7:29

did not read this book. two

7:32

year. By the way

7:34

it's something that don't see

7:36

mouth you know about com

7:38

every week days that I

7:41

knew biological. Relatives

7:43

and and week he received this and

7:45

of course when as far as did

7:48

the staff which was in two thousand

7:50

each scene for just a year before

7:52

Janna did it. While you know this

7:54

past few months I was. jumping

7:56

at all these messages than that

7:58

it's like the And

8:01

then, you know, you are 0.04% related or 0.5% related.

8:07

It's your fifth cousin, your sixth cousin.

8:09

You know, at some point I'm like,

8:11

who are you kidding? I mean, why

8:13

would she be doing this

8:15

test? It just was too

8:17

painful. So I just

8:19

stopped. And the reason why I

8:22

even saw this

8:24

message, because our sister

8:26

Christina did it, even

8:29

when she saw Jennifer

8:31

appear on the site

8:34

as a sibling, she thought

8:37

that it was somehow my

8:39

fake identity on the site. So she

8:41

sent me a message. She said, is

8:44

that you? And

8:47

of course, I straight away realized that it

8:49

was Jenna. I

8:51

mean, I say Jenna, but Jenna was

8:53

not. Jenna to me is now. And

8:56

what did you write her? How did

8:58

you respond when you finally saw it two years

9:01

later? I said that

9:04

I just got it and devastated

9:06

that I'm just seeing this now

9:08

and cannot believe

9:11

that this is happening and that

9:14

I've been waiting for this moment since

9:17

the moment we said goodbye. And I

9:20

didn't see a letter from her for a couple

9:22

of years. Will it take her

9:25

a couple of years to see a letter from

9:27

me? I was frantic. I

9:30

was just frantically googling all

9:32

Jennifer Burns' in the world.

9:36

Jenna, what was your experience? Will you flip

9:38

back to your side of receiving that message?

9:41

I opened all of my emails and there were

9:43

like 10 or 15 messages

9:45

between me and over two of

9:47

my sisters. And I

9:50

was sitting there in the car, like in

9:52

complete shock. And

9:54

my friend was like, you know, what's wrong? Is everything

9:56

okay? And I just like handed her my phone. She

9:59

was one of the only people who actually knew

10:01

who my sister was. And so we

10:03

both freaked out together. Oh my

10:05

God. Could you read one or two of those messages?

10:07

Do you have them? I mean, Natalia, do you mind

10:10

me reading them? No, I don't mind, of course. Is

10:12

that it? It was kind of, it was quite funny

10:14

because they were so

10:16

frantic. I could tell them. Like

10:19

say a lot of things in a short

10:21

period of time. I

10:25

tell she's talking very fast. There's a lot of mistelled

10:27

words. A

10:31

lot of exclamation points. She

10:34

basically said, hello, I just got

10:36

your message. You can't imagine what

10:39

this means to me. I've been looking for

10:41

you for so long. I'm

10:43

very overwhelmed. I'm crying rivers. I have so

10:45

much to tell you, so many hugs to

10:47

give you. So happy. Like, and then at

10:49

the end, she said, I hope it doesn't

10:51

take you two years to read this. So

10:56

you two planned a trip to meet each other. What

10:59

do you remember about it? I just

11:01

remember, it seems like it happened

11:03

in slow motion because we were standing there getting

11:05

our luggage and I turned

11:08

around and she was like there on the

11:10

other side of like, I couldn't hug her

11:12

yet because there was this big glass like

11:15

viewing area. Yes,

11:17

we were very impatient.

11:20

So we went where you can see,

11:22

you can see all the people getting

11:25

their luggages and we were looking and

11:27

finally, so they were

11:29

walking out. Just

11:31

as I see her, she's turning

11:33

around and she sees me and she's like, ah. You

11:38

know, she was smiling and waving and I just, I

11:41

looked like I had seen a ghost. I was pale,

11:43

I was sweating, I was doing so

11:45

unwell. But,

11:48

you know, walked around the corner and she

11:50

was there and she just like, you know,

11:53

held her arms open and I just walked into

11:55

them and then we hugged and cried on each other's

11:57

shoulders. It was great. Wow.

12:00

and release all the... Yes,

12:03

all this tension that built

12:05

up over years, many,

12:07

many years. It

12:09

was great. We went to South of

12:12

France, got

12:15

drawn together, danced together,

12:18

traveled a bit together, got the

12:21

dress up together, went

12:23

to museums and had fun in Paris,

12:26

and definitely all this was

12:28

a lot of hugs. Jenna,

12:32

do you have any memories from Paris that

12:34

really stick out from that trip? You

12:37

know, the big three introductions, the first time

12:40

I met her, the first

12:42

time I met Christina, and the first time I met our mom, all

12:45

are very, like, significant

12:47

memories. And

12:49

Jenna, can you tell us about meeting

12:51

your birth mother and

12:53

just a little bit what that... I can't

12:55

imagine what that experience must be like. It

12:58

was not at all like meeting

13:00

either of my sisters. It was

13:02

very, like, private and intimate introduction.

13:05

I was sitting on your back patio facing away from

13:08

the door, and I just turned around

13:10

and she was there. So

13:12

we couldn't understand each other. I didn't

13:15

know any Russian, and she didn't know

13:17

much English, but it was

13:19

a very, like, intimate moment, lots

13:21

of hugs. I just...

13:23

I feel like I was, like, in

13:26

shock. Yeah, it was

13:28

beautiful, but also, like, really scary. I

13:31

just remember being nervous and, like, oh, man,

13:33

what if she doesn't like me? She

13:37

was crying a lot, Mom,

13:41

and it

13:43

was different for her because we... Jenna

13:46

and I would go to know each other.

13:48

We were communicating all the time. We speak

13:51

the same language. She doesn't speak English. So

13:53

for her, there's so much, of course,

13:56

she wanted to tell Jenna that she

13:58

couldn't tell me. Her and. I

14:01

think that it was. All. In.emotional.

14:05

And that I'm in that

14:07

Haagen Dazs years and.hand whole

14:09

day and and and. I

14:12

underestimated what it's really managed to

14:14

her as well. I really underestimated

14:16

would have with least she had.

14:19

Finding time, knowing that she's well

14:22

and that everything is. Worked.

14:25

Out the way we hope and not

14:27

actually since we got the news and

14:29

since. This. Year.

14:33

Caesar's. Blossom. She's

14:37

been working on gloves lately. She's

14:39

or says i'm so hot the

14:41

I'm so grateful. Life.

14:43

Is so good. at

14:45

this change your concept of family and

14:48

sort of the way family comes together

14:50

and the way you think about family.

14:53

Is really strange. Mother Janet.

14:56

By. Him in our lives.

14:58

I on. A. Huge. I

15:00

don't feel like you were. Ever.

15:03

Not bad. At the So, it's sort

15:05

of. Almost like I'm not a bad

15:07

dream. Third be a for me is

15:09

is been. In Love. Not

15:11

much has changed, but I imagine

15:13

it's very different for Janna because

15:16

she didn't know. I existed

15:18

and it's he didn't remember me. To.

15:20

Me the more people that are added.

15:23

The. More. Blessed. I feel

15:25

in a way especially. you know,

15:29

My sister's not. Think.

15:31

He cleared ever be a possibility of this

15:33

happening. I do know other adopted

15:35

children and I don't know anyone that

15:37

this has happened to little. While.

15:40

I define consider myself to be very

15:42

fortunate. In. Ourselves and fortunate

15:44

that my family is so supportive

15:46

and. You know wants to

15:48

be part of this as this as well.

15:51

And. If that, I'm. In.

15:54

A very very lucky. We

15:56

are that went We have sir. What?

15:59

We do have. an issue of

16:01

managing holidays. So, yeah.

16:04

Yeah, what happens? Jenna,

16:06

Jenna is going to be

16:08

so in demand this Christmas.

16:14

This has been amazing and- It's been

16:16

truly amazing. We feel so grateful to

16:19

you both for taking the time and

16:22

the emotional effort to share

16:24

this with us. It's such a

16:26

remarkable story and I'm just so thrilled

16:28

to hear about this. It's unbelievable. Truly

16:31

remarkable. Thank you both so much for sharing

16:33

that with us. Thank you

16:36

so much for being great

16:38

listeners and giving us

16:40

the space to express this

16:42

joy. Thank you. Yes,

16:44

thank you very much. Ooh,

16:48

and Amy Leibovitz

16:50

actually photographed Natalia and Jenna

16:52

together and the image is

16:55

really beautiful and powerful and I

16:57

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16:59

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17:02

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17:04

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17:06

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17:08

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17:11

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19:15

referenced your roller skating in Accra several times

19:18

on the show today. So we're happy to

19:20

bring it back to the source of this

19:22

moment. I know it was a really special

19:25

one. It happened back you know for

19:27

the November 2022 issue. The images were

19:29

shot by Malik Bodian and it was

19:31

styled by Ava Kamara is definitely

19:33

one of my favorite. I love that.

19:36

Yeah it's amazing. At

19:38

the start of the interview I asked Michaela why

19:40

she wanted to shoot in Accra. Whenever

19:42

I'm asked I always

19:45

say Ghana because I'm

19:48

passionate about bringing work there,

19:50

about working there because I

19:52

want people to know how

19:54

possible it is to create

19:56

amazing things there and my

19:58

dad is always a You

20:01

know, our own in the six it I'm like right

20:03

seeing and my. Grandma My Grandma. Yeah I'd

20:05

say when I'm. Writing and say

20:07

oh yeah it's same. Phone I'm utensil is

20:09

that. Why

20:11

North America suppose? where's the money

20:13

than money is? That it's it's

20:16

for as I won't even says

20:18

for my dad is it for

20:20

my dad allies to understand that

20:22

we can create amazing things and

20:24

gonna send my mission and that's

20:26

why I said are gonna is.

20:28

Awarded.and grandma think of the pictures they

20:30

look for a amazing so. Proud My

20:33

Dad is like the whole of

20:35

as Nine Cents will My dad

20:37

is most as some who. Knows

20:42

what Do As I said dad

20:44

likes of what I mean. I

20:46

grew out of this person to

20:49

have some citizen of the have

20:51

a choice if it's a Adam

20:53

Eve generally bearing for us to

20:56

see like my cousins who am

20:58

I way, Why is uncool in

21:00

vogue Lies grandma. What

21:03

soften it everybody's heads off limits but my

21:05

dad loves their My grandma's is some adores.

21:07

I'm trying to get it since it as

21:09

far as to the she can stick it

21:11

up in a house and guys are beautiful

21:14

cells. Yeah.has, to be phrased as a good holiday

21:16

Gifts on filling up for the holidays that ago.

21:18

That's very different see as well as a gift.

21:20

It says it. I guess movers and said the Christmas

21:22

cards such as but he looks at it as a

21:24

gift that keeps. On giving the is the gift

21:27

that keeps on giving, and it was such

21:29

a gift to go with you there was

21:31

some hair raising moments I must. I

21:33

watched Mchale a sudden traffic he was getting

21:35

in the middle of the street and mean

21:37

that people do I mean in gonna I've

21:39

seen yes we saw people skating in the

21:41

middle of it. Streets is like a thing.

21:43

It really is. I was just.

21:47

His. Shoe

21:49

at one. Place there was I

21:51

the in that's frogs and

21:53

I would stay. And. Sometimes I would

21:55

just hold onto the. And

21:57

I would let that such as will meet some.

22:00

It was fun the other hair

22:03

raising time that everybody. Of

22:05

experience. Was the who's illicit So

22:07

since to set the scene we go to

22:09

the beach. It's actually I think it's like.

22:12

It was a holiday. I think it was

22:14

an aid so. We. Saw pause crowds

22:16

of people dress stop it was really

22:18

beautiful day then we go down to

22:21

the beach and they're a horses but

22:23

it sounds so random and it was

22:25

the actually i think that horses on

22:27

the beach or a thing and across

22:29

as some kind of gray right to

22:32

see these young people riding horses and

22:34

for me that was just a lot.

22:36

At the intake of breath i was

22:38

like wow like as is this place

22:40

couldn't be more cool idea as I

22:42

wouldn't have wanted to be. Surrounded.

22:45

By. The prisoner. They

22:47

want Seventy eyes. The sounds,

22:49

sounds, Very. Safe.

22:53

And I have. No

22:56

idea why there's. No reason for me to

22:58

feel safer. Message residents. By did the

23:00

horses are going round and it's

23:02

only when I saw Melissa video.

23:05

Diary, that's how close. Very good Us:

23:07

yes because everybody was that Mccain on

23:09

there was. A moment where it looks

23:11

like the horse was gonna consensus and

23:13

all that as a present to invoke

23:15

as that let me through a for

23:17

them. It's just sad when my mind

23:19

you know Madonna said limited slip virgin.

23:21

Wow. The horses were literally like grazing to

23:23

have. A my thoughts I didn't know. Says

23:27

so I see the

23:29

adrenalin. Of the fact

23:31

that it was happening that we

23:34

were shooting. For. Vogue.

23:37

In. Gone on. I.

23:39

Was grinning for whole time. I sing

23:41

also the first day. I

23:43

cried. I was just like. For.

23:45

This To Be Happening. Is

23:48

incredible and. I.

23:51

Generally, you know, as I say,

23:53

I don't princess things by saying

23:55

when we rats on that Desi.

23:58

I did, And it. The

24:00

filled me where I was overwhelmed

24:02

on fury. Now says talking. About

24:05

assess thankful which. Is

24:07

why I was willing to do

24:09

any and every since. How? Many

24:11

looks to we want to do I would do

24:13

all of them We are going to find a

24:15

with where am I to changing or my sanity

24:17

in the middle of this market is hiding behind

24:19

a car door. It was a very

24:21

glamorous I will say you are

24:23

hiding behind a causal get changed.

24:26

Mean of look was was major near.

24:28

As as it was it was really special

24:30

be in there with you and seeing you

24:32

in that mode that as you see less.

24:35

So. I wanted to ask you about

24:38

what's next you. looking back, he's had

24:40

an amazing year, you know? Looking.

24:42

Back What some of the things that you're thinking

24:44

I want to bring into the New Year like

24:46

a wanna think about this and what other things

24:48

that no longer serve you. This.

24:51

Things are probably won't do. Less

24:54

and less things I want

24:56

to do more. Would.

24:58

You was it immoral? Yeah. Would I

25:00

want to do more of I? I'd

25:03

definitely miss. My alone

25:05

time. Said this period

25:07

is definitely a i'm.

25:09

Outside periods Yes says gonna pick

25:11

out a supply of us and

25:14

our max sing out the outside

25:16

nurse. Because I know next

25:18

year is going to be.

25:21

Very. Work francis

25:23

and it requires me to

25:25

a chance. extracts myself. From.

25:29

Being so so I'm said,

25:31

I can move forward with

25:33

my stories, which I'm excited

25:35

about. It's just quite nice

25:38

to take the furthest of

25:40

my own life. And.

25:42

Think about somebody elses for a

25:44

while it sells. I could spin

25:47

of Ferry Mckay less sense for

25:49

each year or two for me,

25:51

and. I've loved it. I was

25:53

so shy away from it. Being a Brits

25:55

and being funny and a sophisticate those tough

25:57

the com about it is a car. I

26:00

want it is constantly bow

26:02

my head and about my

26:04

emphasis assist assist up from

26:07

a to put it is

26:09

acting up minutes but I've

26:11

I've been told you know

26:13

especially by my mom to

26:15

try and process what's happening

26:17

and recognize I still struggles

26:19

as a recent that's happening

26:21

said The reasons I've gone

26:23

to substitute my sanity is

26:25

that is I was young

26:27

his I was just me

26:29

now. To see. Me:

26:33

Of someone like me on the

26:35

cover of. Vogue or

26:37

in Black themselves or

26:39

you know, just in

26:41

this platform and to

26:44

a would probably. Has.

26:48

Really changed scenario is the I

26:50

had built for myself growing up

26:52

which is that I am not

26:54

beautiful. Why would anybody ever want

26:56

me to go on television? I

26:58

have an ugly face. Why was I

27:00

have a be? That is all. these

27:02

am horrible tales. The.

27:04

We tell ourselves. When.

27:06

When of the civil. Suits.

27:09

You. Possibly. Be

27:11

passes. Seems. Is.

27:14

Repeats. Is

27:16

so be I mean the response

27:19

honestly, the people that the comments

27:21

so, you know, how many people

27:23

was so grateful and so excited?

27:27

It feels that sell it like such a

27:29

war moment and how many will members we

27:32

get on the internet and know you're not

27:34

on Sesame Threads on Miss I may not

27:36

have a nice and a day I don't

27:38

know what's happening as much I know I

27:40

I was thinking about that as all of

27:43

the messages and seeing the commentary in. The

27:47

calluses a love like I can actually

27:49

see lit I can feel the love

27:51

I actually do says maybe more special

27:53

than and seeing the comments I celia

27:56

my own it on the. So glad

27:58

and thank you so much. The wonderful

28:00

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28:05

it's the episode. Will be back next

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