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This is the run-through. I'm Chloe Mel. And

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I'm Jo Mennady, and the end of the

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year is really upon us. What? I

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know Raven Smith, our columnist,

0:54

wrote a very funny piece called

0:57

the Ludacrisly Capacious Year of 2023,

0:59

and with a reference

1:01

to the succession for Brabray Bag

1:03

that we all know and love.

1:05

But it's true that 2023 feels

1:07

like an extremely long

1:10

and packed year from

1:13

many different angles. And this week, Jo

1:15

and I had so much fun, we talked

1:18

to Nicole Phelps and Virginia Smith about what

1:20

fashion moments of 2023 really stood

1:22

out for them and what

1:25

they're happy to forget, what they will

1:27

always remember. And

1:29

I think we all had a lot to

1:31

say and a lot of fun discussing. So

1:33

stay tuned for that. But first, Jo-Ma,

1:37

tell me about what a holiday break

1:39

means for you. Some

1:41

time to sleep. Yeah,

1:44

I feel like we're all feeling a bit

1:47

of like end of year fatigue. Yeah, what

1:49

an intensia. So

1:51

I'm ready to sort of take

1:53

some time offline. I'm

1:56

going to be spending the holidays with my

1:58

family in the UK. nephews,

2:00

my brother, my aunt, my sister-in-law,

2:02

it's going to be very festive.

2:05

The UK is super festive. I'm looking in front

2:07

of me, there is an ice rink right in

2:09

front of my window in

2:11

Hanover Square. And there

2:14

are trees lit up everywhere. I feel

2:17

like when it comes to Christmas, like London

2:19

wins at Christmas. It is just

2:21

you can't move for festive spirit. I

2:25

know I do feel like I have dreams

2:27

of going to London at Christmas time one

2:29

day. New York at Christmas is a delight.

2:33

What are your plans? Well, this weekend,

2:35

I mean, at 8am, because that's what

2:37

happens when your children wake up at

2:39

6.30am, Arthur and I went on an

2:41

expedition to see the tree

2:43

at Rockefeller Center, which he couldn't care less about. Oh, fun.

2:46

He was like, okay, it's a tree.

2:49

But we were excited to watch the

2:51

ice skaters. And he calls it the

2:53

Rocka Rocka Center, which frankly is more

2:56

appealing. And then I'm going

2:58

to Los Angeles with our whole crew

3:00

and I have family there and my

3:02

mom will be there and my- You

3:05

grew up there. I grew up there. My mom

3:07

and I are taking Arthur to Disneyland, which he's

3:09

probably- Oh my God. We could wait like two

3:12

years, but my mother's more excited than anyone. So

3:14

we are going as a group and

3:17

we are very excited. And Arthur has

3:19

said he's most excited to see Maleficent,

3:21

which I think shows some real fashion

3:23

forward notes on his

3:25

part. Oh, you know what I

3:27

wanted to talk about, which is Vogue

3:30

Runway was inspired by The Athletic, the

3:32

New York Times Sports

3:34

website did a poll of like 100

3:37

industry insiders on their favorite sports games

3:39

of the year and blah, blah, blah.

3:41

And that inspired Nicole Phelps and the

3:44

runway team to do a similar poll

3:47

for Vogue Runway of the- I took

3:49

that poll. I know

3:51

we all did and we loved

3:53

it. And they really, Jose Creales-Unzuita

3:57

are esteemed often. the

4:00

run-through contributor, was the

4:02

master of the poll and wrote it up.

4:04

And he really went out to over

4:07

100 industry insiders. And it's

4:10

very revealing. Favorite collection of the year was

4:12

far and away. Prada Spring 24. Favorite

4:15

designer of the year by a long shot

4:17

was Jonathan Anderson, which I thought was really

4:19

interesting. Most underrated

4:22

designer was Martine Rose, Choma's

4:24

favorite. This

4:27

is kind of like a mini CFDA. The People's

4:29

Choice CFDA. Yeah,

4:32

I'm going to have to go

4:34

through that with a fine tooth

4:36

comb. I know. It's amazing.

4:39

And then it's been really fun to see all of

4:41

the end of year content we've been doing on the

4:44

site. Hannah Jackson did a

4:46

really fun piece on the best celebrity

4:49

pap walks. And there

4:52

were some great moments to be remembering

4:54

from Jeremy Allen White's doing

4:57

push-ups on the sidewalk to

5:00

Lupita and Joshua Jackson's

5:03

relationship hard launch. Also,

5:05

Sarah Spellings did a really fun piece

5:07

on a glossary of all the microtrends

5:09

of 2023. And

5:12

that was very

5:14

funny and tongue in cheek, but also

5:17

helpful and interesting to be like the

5:19

coastal Nona versus Tomato Girl summer. I

5:21

mean, TikTok has really expanded our vocabulary

5:23

in a way that maybe I could

5:26

do without. But nevertheless.

5:29

I know. On the other end of

5:31

that, which I thought was quite impressive, Emily

5:33

Chan on the British Vogue team here,

5:35

she did a story about only buying five items

5:37

of clothing. I know. I couldn't believe that. I saw

5:39

that this weekend. Emily's

5:41

been such a champion for

5:43

all of our sustainability content. And

5:46

she does all the coverage on COP

5:48

and is constantly in contact with designers

5:50

who are kind of leading the way

5:53

as far as sustainability. Yeah,

5:55

she set herself a really difficult

5:57

challenge. And. Wow,

6:00

like reading about it was quite impressive

6:02

because I definitely would fail within a

6:04

month or

6:07

two at least. I can't imagine. No, I mean it's hard.

6:09

I also want to know if like things

6:11

people give her count, does vintage count? Anyway, I

6:13

haven't read the piece yet, but I'm very excited

6:15

about it and have a lot of questions. So

6:17

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who's

6:19

engaged and that it's been a big,

6:22

a runaway hit. The

6:29

run through will be back in just a moment. Hi,

6:46

it's Kelsey McKinney from Normal Gossip.

6:49

At long last we are returning

6:51

for a new season with stories

6:53

about bachelorette parties and city politics

6:55

and rental houses gone wrong. New

6:57

episodes will start dropping October 18th,

6:59

but you didn't hear that from

7:01

me. Normal Gossip from Defector

7:03

and Radiotopia can be found wherever

7:05

you listen to podcasts. And

7:13

we're back. So some of

7:15

our most listened to episodes on the run

7:18

through were with, actually with our colleagues,

7:20

Nicole Phelps, who is the global director

7:22

of Vogue Runway and Virginia Smith, who's

7:24

Vogue's global head of fashion. And

7:26

my favorite conversations have always been

7:29

with them, honestly. So I was really happy

7:31

to see our listeners. We're

7:33

just as excited about hearing them

7:36

talk about fashion as I was. So we thought

7:38

we'd bring them back on the show to talk about all

7:41

the fashion that took the world by storm this

7:43

year. And we also got to hear

7:45

from some of our other friends from around the Vogue

7:47

offices around the world. Choma, I'm curious,

7:49

what fashion do you want to leave in

7:52

2023? I'm

7:54

ready to let go of quiet luxury. I'm

7:56

not a quiet girl. So no, thank you.

7:58

So I'm ready to bring in some. like

8:00

something with a bit of noise to it. Maybe

8:03

something embellished or something that makes

8:05

noise when you walk like Erika

8:07

Badu likes, just not quiet

8:10

luxury. Thank you. No,

8:12

how dare you? How dare you? It's

8:17

someone who loves boring

8:19

quiet luxury and has been dressing like

8:22

that for years. It's a

8:24

mainstay in my wardrobe. Nicole,

8:28

quiet luxury? Yeah, I would say

8:30

I'm probably a quiet luxury girl myself

8:32

too. So who do we think was

8:35

the standout designer this year? I

8:37

think Mattu Blase, the designer, is a

8:39

personal favorite of probably all of ours.

8:43

Nicole, you did such an incredible talk

8:45

with him at Forces of Fashion this year.

8:47

You know, there's an intelligence.

8:50

He's also very nice, very

8:52

handsome, and just seems

8:54

very charming and just seems to really

8:57

looking at design in a very intelligent

8:59

way, but also doesn't not taking it

9:02

too, too seriously, except in terms of

9:04

craftsmanship. But he's just really

9:08

adorable and sort of fabulous. Agree.

9:11

Hard agree. Well, everyone loved Nicole and

9:14

Mattu's talk. I feel like that was the

9:16

winner from Forces of Fashion. Agree. A hard

9:19

agree. It was so good. Have other

9:21

designers really

9:23

won 2023, so to speak? Who would

9:26

you say it was like their year? I

9:29

mean, NEMU has been so influential for

9:31

the past few years. So I mean, it's pretty

9:33

incredible, the influence

9:35

you've seen from Mucho Prada

9:37

on the runway. I feel like people are actually wearing

9:40

no pants. Out. People are wearing

9:42

that. It's a thing. It's a real

9:44

thing. I completely thought it would just

9:46

be runway to editorial. And it's like

9:48

even Claire Ford today, who I don't think of

9:51

as a particular red

9:53

carpet renegade, and she was a pantless and

9:55

Prada. Do you think that's

9:57

what we're going to be seeing? Are you seeing it a party

9:59

season out in the the world. I still kind

10:01

of seen a couple of people kind of

10:03

wearing it. Like, you know, civilians,

10:05

have you seen any? No, I've really only

10:08

seen it on the red carpet, except for

10:10

Kendall Warrett, civilian in. Yeah, I

10:12

think the civilian equivalent is all of

10:14

the, you know,

10:16

like the jog bras and the Lycra

10:18

bike shorts that women have been wearing

10:20

on the city streets,

10:22

you know, since COVID. This

10:25

everybody's in exercise clothes, everybody is

10:27

showing off their body and, you

10:31

know, maybe those bikers short those, you know, the

10:33

tight bikers shorts will just keep getting shorter. Prediction

10:36

for 2020 for shorter bikes.

10:38

So many little baby hot pants weren't there all

10:41

over. That was the one trend

10:43

I probably am going to leave for other people

10:45

to try. Yeah, we didn't really like that

10:47

trend on the on the spring 24 runway.

10:51

Note to designers. So

10:59

these are some of the trends on the streets

11:01

of New York. But before we move on, here's

11:03

what happened in 2023 overseas. Hi,

11:09

I'm Francesca from Vogitalia, the

11:11

head of editorial content. The

11:14

trend I saw in 2023 in

11:16

Italy is an iconic one. It's

11:19

like dressing as a Milanese Shura,

11:21

that I think like old ladies,

11:23

it's actually pretty cool. You always

11:26

want to dress like a Shura

11:28

with like this gold jewelry and

11:30

a little furry and the

11:33

knit kitten heels and the

11:36

longest pencil skirt. So I

11:38

always love, love, love this.

11:45

We love Fran and we also a huge fans

11:47

of the grandma look. Now from one

11:49

of our colleagues on some of the looks you've seen

11:51

in London. Hi,

11:54

my name is Daniel Watters. I'm the

11:57

fashion writer at British Vogue. I think

11:59

this year. I've begun to

12:01

see something that I can only

12:03

really refer to as nonsense dressing,

12:06

which is the kind of young

12:08

people on TikTok or in

12:10

certain areas of London who

12:12

wear things like track shorts

12:14

with cowboy boots and some

12:16

kind of fancy dress shirt.

12:18

I'd say it's about making

12:20

strange and blase statements with

12:22

clothes, like mashing formal wear

12:24

with sportswear, high femme

12:26

with more lavish accents. What

12:33

were the biggest, most

12:35

overarching trends of 2023, would you say? I

12:38

think it was all about the concert tour this

12:41

year. I mean, I think it was less

12:43

about a red carpet and more about the concert

12:46

extravagance. I mean, starting with Rihanna

12:48

at the Super Bowl in her

12:50

fabulous Luave jumpsuit and

12:52

then continuing to Beyonce's summer runway

12:54

tour. I mean, it was just

12:57

a tour de force in fashion

12:59

and music. The concert tour was

13:01

such a phenomenon because it

13:03

created trends like

13:05

the friendship bracelets, which we wrote about in

13:07

the items of the year from Taylor

13:09

Swift. And there's like a sense

13:12

of community at these shows. And they're like

13:14

badges and codes that the fans share.

13:17

And it sort of trickles out. It feels like

13:19

a new way for trends to start

13:22

the concert. Here

13:27

is one of our Vogue Runway colleagues on the accessories

13:29

at the find 2023. I'm

13:38

Lya Garcia-Furtado and I'm a senior fashion news

13:40

editor at Vogue Runway. I feel like the

13:42

accessories of the year definitely shoes. The

13:44

first one is a Martine Rose Nike

13:46

sneaker. They're like Nike shocks, but it's

13:49

a mule and it's a really weird

13:51

color and it looks weird. And then

13:53

another shoe that I feel

13:55

like was everywhere was the Mary Jane

13:57

Flatt, specifically the designer.

14:00

version of it by Elia which was

14:02

like studded or lace were

14:04

cut or mesh or like embellished

14:07

with crystal. And then the

14:09

last shoe, it's a Marjela Tabby. Ladies of

14:11

NYC be thinking where this man is out

14:13

here on Tinder and Hinge and he will

14:15

steal from you. So this is a story

14:17

about how that fucker stole my Mary Jane Tabby's.

14:20

This year I feel like they went mainstream especially once

14:22

that girl on TikTok went on a date and they

14:25

stole her pair of Tabby's. And if

14:27

you know who he is, where he lives or

14:29

anything about him, let me know because I

14:32

deserve retribution and I want my fucking shoe

14:34

back. Does

14:41

everyone have a best red carpet look

14:43

of the year? That's a tough question

14:45

Chloe. One? Okay you

14:48

can have a couple. You can have one that pops

14:50

to mind. I'll tell you mine just because it's top

14:52

of mine. I loved Emma Corrin and the Princess

14:55

Diana inspired white tuxedo with the

14:57

sheer skirt. I just love

14:59

that they do their thing and really

15:01

dress the way they want to. And

15:04

I love Santa Miller and her bump-bearing

15:06

Schiaparelli at Vogue World. You

15:09

know Beyonce looms large in my life.

15:12

I did think she looked amazing in

15:14

the silver Versace at her film premiere

15:16

with her newly blonde hair. I mean

15:18

her Donna Telekac play. It was pretty amazing.

15:21

It was epic. Yeah

15:24

I loved Hunter

15:26

Schiaparelli especially in the

15:28

cutout peekaboo silver McQueen

15:30

by Sarah Burton. Just

15:34

incredible. She looked great. Really

15:36

great recently. Incredible. Who won

15:39

the red carpet this year? I mean Greta Lee

15:41

had amazing looks. There were so many people but

15:43

who consistently kind of nailed it. Hunter,

15:46

Greta. What about Timmy? How

15:48

does everybody feel? Someone

15:51

on our celeb style flag this morning

15:53

said that Timmy in

15:55

his shiny brown suit yesterday was dressing

15:57

as an actual chocolate bar. Oh,

16:00

he makes that one. I mean, he can

16:02

wear anything and look amazing. Yeah, method. Method

16:04

dressing. The bar is

16:06

hot. I mean, he's definitely still by far and

16:08

away the most exciting when it comes to men's.

16:11

I mean, there are lots of men who dress

16:13

well now, but I think it's

16:15

difficult to top him. I mean, poor Mascow always looks good

16:17

too. I mean, there are a few guys. And

16:20

my favorite was Virginia Smith in her

16:22

archival, Alexander McQueen. Thank

16:25

you, Nicole. No, it was it was so

16:28

amazing to wear that. And I was so

16:30

happy and so thrilled. They let me wear

16:32

it. Can you describe it? It was just

16:34

the most perfect menswear suit with this amazing

16:36

ruffle. Oh, the ruffle. I

16:39

love that so much. Yes, it was great.

16:41

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for letting

16:43

me wear it. One of my

16:45

favorite Met looks I've ever worn, I would have to

16:47

say. That was fabulous. Fantastic. So

16:50

good. And my second vote for

16:53

Met Gala look is Kristen Stewart, who

16:55

I loved that she was in that

16:57

boyish tuxedo and

17:00

wearing flats. I

17:03

think that understatement goes a

17:05

long way, you know, in

17:07

a in a moment when everybody else

17:09

is sort of going the other direction. So I

17:11

thought she was great. And

17:17

now another great red carpet look this year. I'm

17:23

Jose. I'm a fashionist, writer of O'Brien Way.

17:25

Daniel Brooks just wore, I

17:27

think, recently a Moschino look from

17:29

the red carpet. It was

17:31

a look that wasn't precious Lee on the runway. And

17:33

I think the reason why I love this so much

17:35

was not just because it was super fab, but also

17:37

because that's why it's so important to have other

17:40

kinds of sizes on the runway. And

17:43

then actors who are not sample size can also have a

17:45

red carpet moment that is off the runway. So I love

17:47

that. I'm

17:50

very excited for the award season. Me

17:53

too. I think people are going to really go for it. Hi

18:03

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18:05

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18:07

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18:23

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Off Camera with Kelly Ripa wherever

18:27

you get your podcasts. Favorite

18:34

emerging designer of the year? I

18:37

think Rachel Scott of Diatima had a great

18:39

year. I mean, she was a finalist for

18:41

the Vogue CFDA Fashion Fund and then she

18:43

ended up winning emerging designer of the year

18:46

at the CFDA Awards. And

18:48

I have to say, everyone who was wearing her clothes

18:50

there I thought looked really incredible. Those

18:52

needlepoint dresses are so beautiful and

18:54

I feel like it was really a great

18:57

year for her. Yeah, I want

18:59

to give a shout out to another

19:01

New York based woman designer who is

19:03

Hilary Tamor at Colleen

19:05

Estrada. I loved everything

19:07

about the show she put on

19:10

in September, especially the

19:12

way she sent the models out.

19:14

They were walking down the runway

19:16

with the very weird, almost psychotic

19:18

smile and then they turned around

19:20

and put on this frown and

19:22

the theatre of it was really

19:24

great. And I just really

19:26

respect everything that she's trying to do

19:28

to make a collection that

19:30

is sustainable, but also so much fun

19:33

and so full of life. It's

19:35

been fun being back in London because I've gotten to reconnect

19:37

with a lot of young designers

19:40

here. But there are a

19:42

couple who I've mentioned on the show before who

19:45

I'm just getting to know and

19:47

one of them is Michael Stewart from

19:49

Standing Ground. He makes these

19:52

incredible draped couture

19:54

level dresses with very

19:57

intricate details that are almost

19:59

padded. like a padded hip or

20:02

there'll be kind of beading going through underneath

20:04

the skin of a dress so it has

20:06

this texture to it. They're just

20:08

really beautiful and special. I think

20:10

you usually associate London with kind

20:12

of a more kind of street

20:14

level kind of grit and he's

20:17

really glamorous and refined. His

20:19

clothes are so I am excited to see

20:21

what he does. Next. Yes, it

20:23

feels like somebody should wear his dresses

20:26

on the floor. Oh my god, on the back of it. The

20:29

water would be great in them. I

20:31

mean, anyone would be great in them.

20:33

They're just so beautiful. I've always loved

20:35

what Supriya Lele does and

20:38

now she's been, she's opened

20:40

up an art gallery and she's kind

20:42

of thinking outside the world of fashion. Such

20:45

a great point of view and wonderful

20:47

taste. So to see her world kind

20:49

of expand as a young

20:51

designer because I think a lot of designers are

20:53

thinking, well, what's next for me? Like how can

20:55

I kind of bring people into

20:57

my world? And I think this is a really

21:00

smart way for her to do it and it's

21:02

kind of a natural extension of what she does.

21:04

And things are tough for

21:06

young designers. I think retail isn't

21:08

an easy, stable place and you

21:11

kind of have to think creatively

21:13

and kind of lean into what

21:15

you love, right? Because that's so

21:18

important now to kind of feel like you're

21:20

doing your hearts in it. And you can

21:22

just tell that she puts her heart and

21:24

soul into all of it. So

21:26

I'm excited by her. Hi,

21:36

I'm Christian Alaire. I'm Bogue's senior fashion

21:38

writer and my favorite designer of the

21:41

year was an emerging designer called

21:43

John Tae-Kam. He's a Plains Cree

21:45

designer from Saskatchewan and he does

21:47

a lot of sort of avant-garde

21:49

sculptural gowns made out of ribbons

21:51

and feathers sort of nodding

21:53

back to his indigenous roots and I think he's

21:55

going to be a big star in the future.

21:57

So, that's all. Nicole,

22:04

you had a piece come out from Vogue

22:06

Runway that Mark Holgate wrote that I

22:08

think he writes every year on what

22:11

actually sold this year. And he

22:13

interviews a lot of retailers, and

22:15

it's always interesting to see what

22:18

translates from the runways into people's

22:20

closets. Yes. It's sort of

22:22

another way of talking about where

22:24

trends are coming from. You know,

22:26

if they're coming from Beyonce and

22:28

Taylor Swift's tour. They're also coming

22:30

from small underground,

22:32

not that well-known designers

22:35

around the world. Dusan is one

22:38

that I think a couple of

22:40

retailers name-checked. And

22:43

that's a name that I wasn't

22:46

really very familiar with. It turns

22:48

out that the person who's doing

22:50

that collection worked for

22:52

Zoran many, many years ago.

22:56

My mom wears a lot of Zoran. And

22:59

so talking about quiet luxury, sort of

23:01

exemplary of that trend. And there's

23:03

many, many more labels that Mark talked

23:06

about with these different retailers

23:08

that I had never heard of. So

23:10

for me, it's like a real education.

23:12

And interesting to learn that retailers

23:15

are really going far off

23:17

the runway to get clothes

23:19

that are working for women.

23:22

And what does that say about the runway? It's

23:24

curious, you know? What about Model of

23:26

the Year? Model of the Year was

23:28

Maggie Smith and the Luavey ad. Absolutely.

23:30

I mean, brilliant. That

23:33

was amazing. I think my Models of the Year would

23:35

be both Paloma and

23:37

Anok because they both

23:39

had such amazing years. And they're both such

23:41

– I mean, there are so many great models.

23:44

It's difficult to pick favorites. We should probably mention

23:46

Daria, who made her comeback at Gucci. Oh, yeah,

23:48

Daria's comeback. Surprising everyone because

23:50

we all thought she would come

23:52

back for Phoebe. And

23:55

Daria and Sabato at Gucci were friends

23:57

20 years ago when they were both

23:59

– starting out in the industry and

24:01

Sabato was an assistant in the pattern

24:03

makers studio at Prada and that's how

24:05

they got to know each other. I

24:07

guess they've been friends or close

24:10

ever since and so he asked her to

24:12

be in his first campaign. That was

24:14

a very good one. What about designers

24:16

we lost or designer exits of the year?

24:18

I'm thinking of Sarah Burton and McQueen which

24:21

was I think very emotional for everyone and

24:23

people felt very strongly about

24:26

the end of a really exquisite era perhaps.

24:28

Yeah, that's a hard one just because I

24:31

think we've all loved what

24:33

Sarah has done there for so many

24:35

years but as someone pointed out,

24:38

it's certainly not the

24:40

end of Sarah Burton and I think it

24:42

will be really amazing to see what

24:45

she does on her own without the history

24:47

of McQueen and I'm excited to

24:49

see what she does next. But obviously

24:51

that sparked a lot of controversy

24:53

in terms of having

24:56

so many male creative directors at the

24:58

top of houses and the lack

25:00

of female creative directors at so many houses.

25:02

So that's certainly a topic that

25:04

we have been discussing in the

25:07

last few months. Hi

25:14

I'm Laura Ingham, the deputy director

25:16

of the Global Fashion Network here

25:18

at Vogue. I think that the

25:20

very sad passing of Dame Vivian

25:22

Westwood in December 2022 had a

25:24

huge impact

25:27

on the collections that we saw and worked

25:30

with in February and March this year and

25:33

then subsequently shot over

25:35

the pages of Vogue and globally

25:38

this summer. I think you know

25:40

of course we all know

25:42

and love her provocative and

25:45

punk aesthetic and to see

25:47

that influence and her influence

25:49

and her legacy sort of

25:52

trickling through the collections in

25:54

March this year was really

25:56

inspiring and one that I'll

25:59

remember as well. redefining the

26:02

movement and the trends that we work towards

26:04

and the stages and the fashion that we put together

26:06

this year. This

26:18

year we talked about a lot of runway shows that

26:20

we loved and here are a few more that really

26:22

stood out. Hi my

26:25

name is Carla Martinez de Salas. I'm the

26:27

head of content for Vogue Mexico and Latin

26:29

America. Personally one of

26:31

my favorite shows and one of the most emotional

26:33

shows I would say was Willie

26:36

Chavarria's last show in

26:38

downtown Manhattan where the entire

26:42

soundtrack was Latin

26:44

songs that really reminded me of what

26:46

my parents used to listen to when

26:48

I was growing up and just those

26:50

beautiful jackets with the roses. I

26:53

kind of felt like I was in like 1960s ballroom

26:55

in Mexico. Hi

26:59

it's Laird Borelli-Person the archive

27:01

editor at Vogue runway. I

27:04

will say Duran Lanting who

27:07

shows in Paris and who

27:09

is doing wonderful things in

27:11

my opinion with silhouettes, padding,

27:13

odd shapes, things that really

27:15

make you think and

27:17

force us to look at the body in new

27:19

ways. I also loved

27:22

Luar Show in September just

27:24

seeing the energy in the room. It

27:27

was eight o'clock we were out in Bushwick. He

27:30

came out and he was emotional and had tears

27:32

in his eyes and those two

27:34

designers the fact that they're so in

27:37

tune with their roots and where

27:39

they come from I think is the goal. What

27:50

about Favorite Runway this year? Either shows

27:52

or runway look? Is there any that

27:54

stands out? Well I was not there

27:56

and I was very limb and lipped

27:58

as our colleague Hamish Bullock. would say.

28:00

I wish I would have been at Pharrell's debut in

28:02

VCon because it did look like such an

28:10

amazing, amazing show.

28:13

And that's what it was, a real show. I

28:15

mean, it really brought back drama,

28:18

performance, excitement. That's a good point.

28:20

We didn't touch on that. It's

28:23

rare that I find that fashion

28:25

shows trans really bleed

28:27

into other culture. I had sort of friends

28:30

with my husband being like, oh, what was

28:32

that? What was happening? And so it's nice

28:34

when you feel that relevancy. Now

28:41

let's check gears and talk about the Vogue covers we

28:43

love this year. This is one we

28:45

definitely can't forget. Hi,

28:49

my name is Willow Lindley. I am

28:51

the fashion market and collaborations director here

28:53

at Vogue and Margot Robbie in

28:55

her role for Barbie styled by

28:58

Gabriela Krieffer-Johnson and shot by Ethan

29:00

James Green. That was a

29:02

super fun shoot. Gab and

29:04

I, we hadn't been able

29:06

to see more than about five minutes

29:09

of part of the film. And we

29:11

were deep in Reddit forums about spoilers

29:13

and any sort of hints and

29:15

tips we could get from people

29:18

out there trying to build this

29:20

story in this sort of futuristic

29:22

world of Barbie, finding that perfect

29:24

balance between humor and seriousness and

29:26

celebrating the actress as well as

29:28

the subject was really well accomplished. Yeah,

29:31

Barbie felt like such a fun cover. There were a lot

29:33

of good ones. I loved Erica too. I thought

29:35

Erica was beautiful. And obviously, like, you

29:38

know, you and I spent time with Badu.

29:41

She's a fun,

29:43

I mean, her objects of affection video goes

29:45

down in history. You mean any

29:47

Badudio? In the Badudio. I mean,

29:50

amazing. Amazing. I have to say the end

29:53

of the year with Nicki Minaj is also

29:55

sort of a heartfelt favorite too. I mean,

29:57

it was her first Vogue cover and that's always

29:59

so special for anyone. And we did

30:01

a Zoom with her. Shumu, were you

30:04

on that? It was Anna and

30:06

I did a Zoom with her. Yeah, well, in

30:08

the beginning, she was so excited. She was so

30:10

excited. She said she cried when she heard, you

30:12

know. Aww. And it was so sweet.

30:14

And the response to it, and also

30:16

Erica, the response to that cover was

30:18

pretty incredible to both. So it's just

30:21

so nice when that happens.

30:27

All right. That's it for this episode.

30:29

Thank you, guys. So we're

30:34

hearing from you guys about what made fashion great

30:36

in 2023. And we can't

30:38

wait to see what we are all wearing or not wearing in

30:40

2024. Yes. And we'll be back

30:43

next week with an exciting

30:46

episode. Happy holidays. The

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