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Welcome back to the Runcast with

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me, your host and fellow runner, John

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Richards, also the host of The Morning Show on

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KEXP, which provides these podcasts

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and you, the donors out there, I assume

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you all are, you pay

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for these podcasts. So I appreciate you all very

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much. You go to kexp.org for more information

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on how to do that or listen to my show or check out

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the archive. It is a week. I'm

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not going to lie to you. This has been difficult for me.

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I actually posted about this. If you follow

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me, DJ John Richards, I hope

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you do on Instagram. I told a little story about

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just letting everything catch up to me. And

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I haven't talked a little bit about running. I said, I was

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running a hundred miles per hour and suddenly

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I had to stop. So as I

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record this, I'm also in

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that struggle and hearing from so many

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people who also struggle with depression.

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With dealing with grief, my sister passed away not

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too long ago and it really hit me how much

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that community and music really

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does heal. And the other thing that heals is

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running. And that's what this runcast

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is all about. I'm starting to get back

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to running where it's not sporadic around

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the injury. I've been taking care of

1:07

my calf. Thanks for all the well wishes. You

1:09

fellow runners know a calf is like a, like

1:12

someone's sick in your family. You're checking in. Hey,

1:14

how's your buddy, the calf? Well, you know,

1:16

okay. Getting better. I'm going

1:19

to PT and I'm doing all the exercises and

1:21

I got my mileage back up, did five

1:24

miles and some change just before I sat

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down to record this. Yeah, I'm a little

1:28

sore, but I'm on

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it and I'm headed towards a big race. I hope

1:32

in the spring as I've talked about, because I need

1:34

that goal. I need that running. I need that community.

1:37

I know all those things will help heal

1:40

through music. So let's get to it

1:42

and start on the trail as I'm starting

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to train a little bit on trail running. This is Marco

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Silker and a song called Lowland Trail

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here on the runcast.

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Looking for a lowland trail I'm looking

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for a lowland trail

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Got hills to climb

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in my own sweet town Looking

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for a lowland trail I'm

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looking for a lowland trail

2:30

Got trouble

2:36

coming up

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where there

2:43

could have been

2:46

love I've seen

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it on a lowland trail

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Put it all on the line And

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it wasn't enough Better take

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it to a lowland trail

2:59

Looking for a lowland trail

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I'm looking for a lowland

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trail Got hills

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to climb in my own sweet

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town Looking for a lowland

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trail I'm looking

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for a lowland trail

3:17

I'm

3:20

looking for a lowland trail

3:23

Got hills to climb

3:25

in my own sweet town Looking

3:28

for a lowland trail I'm

3:31

looking for a lowland trail

3:34

I'm looking for a lowland

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trail Just

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before the morning

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Starting another

3:52

world You

3:55

go just before

3:57

the morning Starting

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over, you go Always

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on your mind, soon

4:13

as you wait Until

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you close your eyes Nobody

4:22

ever explains

4:25

that somehow you

4:27

were Just before

4:31

the morning, starting all

4:34

over You

4:39

go just before the night,

4:42

somewhere Coming

4:46

from the crowd Just

4:51

before the morning,

4:53

starting

4:57

all over You go just

4:59

before the night, somewhere The

5:04

man had spent a while, she

5:06

laughs and exhales The

5:09

car's waiting outside

5:14

The years staying like melted

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wax, the coldest

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sad curves We

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always arrive,

5:29

a moment

5:32

too late And

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I can't help feeling like

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it couldn't be

5:42

any other way Just

5:44

before the

5:47

morning, starting

5:50

all over You

5:54

go just before the

5:56

morning, starting

5:59

all over Running

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all over, you go

6:07

Now another soul around Haven't

6:13

fallen from the clouds

6:18

Either way you're going down

6:23

No, you don't need it now

6:27

Just before the moon,

6:30

you go Now

6:33

another soul around Haven't

6:35

fallen from the

6:37

clouds Either

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way you're going down

6:45

No, you don't need it

6:47

now No,

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you don't need it now No,

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you don't need it now No,

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you don't need

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it now In

7:36

a town where I'm living

7:39

now Wedding rings

7:41

reek And the records

7:43

are held by the sad

7:48

The cameras can't find

7:51

any smiles And the

7:53

water's the worst tasting

7:56

I've ever had Grown

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Ups ride BMX bikes Every

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now and then stopping

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to cry on a lawn

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And the trees have turned black

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And they're full of insane

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birds That can't remember

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any of their songs They're

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shootouts and fistfights

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by night in the graveyard

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And multi-car pileups

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by day And

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the freight train derailed

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and sank in the lake

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Like a lobster it bubbles

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away When

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you get here, you're welcome

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to this town sign that

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scares little kids with

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its skulls and its gore

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And when you leave here, you

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get the hell out sign

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that's well kept and pretty

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with floral decor In

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a town where I'm

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living now In

10:30

a town where I'm living now In

10:36

a town where I'm living now In

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a town where I'm

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living now In

10:49

a town where I'm living

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now In

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a town where I'm living now In

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a town where

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I'm living now This

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is the town

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where I'm living now This

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is the town where I'm living now

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Granddaddy with the town where I'm living

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now Local natives just before morning

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Margo Silker, Lowland Trail

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Moody Mellow Set to get you running

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today Steve wrote me a nice message

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I wanted to read it and said, Hey

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John, I want to say good thoughts your way Also you

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sent this picture from Woodinville

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always send those pictures our way by

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the way. Use the hashtag KEXPruncast

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as well, tag KEXP and DJ John Richards.

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If you can remember all that, please do. Anyway,

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sent the picture and said, as

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a turnaround point, a six mile run here in Woodinville,

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I was inspired and propelled by your runcast as

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always. You also provided me a moment a few weeks back

12:19

when you were talking about believing in yourself. I

12:21

was down with some big changes at work, was questioning

12:23

my abilities and my place. You said those

12:25

words during the run and provided an inspirational

12:28

quote and I proceeded to chew on that over the next

12:30

two miles and I was able to run out

12:32

of that tunnel of darkness into confidence

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and purpose. I love that. A belated thanks

12:37

for that, of course. I know you're going through some rough stuff

12:39

right now as well. I want to tell you, you mattered,

12:41

make a difference. I'm a runner and you are not alone.

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Thank you, Steve. Us runners do got to stick together

12:45

and, you know, music, love, and runners we are.

12:47

I appreciate all of you. We continue

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here on the runcast with our friend, Kristen

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Hirsch in a brand new song called Miss Haha.

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Under his crown come

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back Mr. Bones to

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the crab shack we call

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home. If

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I gave in, we'd

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have today. What

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more were we gonna have

13:24

anyway? Come

13:29

back Mr. Bones to the flashback

13:32

we call home. you

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This your goal begins to part your own basic

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powers It

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is done, it is done, it is

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done I

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understand the

14:24

grandiose delusion

14:27

and this half Am

14:31

I your doubt? He

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shall guard it down He

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shall under his ground come back He'll

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miss the walls to the best

14:57

back We

15:00

come home If

15:17

I gave in, we'd

15:21

have to date What

15:24

more are we gonna have

15:27

anyway? You

15:43

were there for the first time

15:46

Spewing care at the worst

15:48

time Come back, Mr.

15:51

Bones, to the best back

15:54

We come home Every

16:31

morning there's an ache

16:35

It's no big deal, just seems my heart

16:37

just wants to break I

16:39

can't find the words to let you go

16:44

I just wanna be the girl I

16:46

always thought I'd know All

16:49

the things that ever kept me standing

16:52

up have gone And everything

16:54

I know's been proven wrong

16:58

I'm a firecracker going

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off in some strange guy's backyard

17:03

And everyone I know is different

17:05

now

17:08

There's a hurricane that's in your

17:11

eyes I don't

17:13

wanna be apart of this thing

17:16

anymore I'd rather

17:19

run into a fire

17:23

And leave all my clothes and all my blood

17:25

dripping on your floor All

17:27

the things that ever kept me

17:29

standing up have gone And

17:32

everyone I know is moving

17:35

on I'm a firecracker

17:38

going off in some strange guy's

17:40

backyard And everyone I know

17:42

is different now The

17:47

pills won't change my mind Just

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fall and take

17:53

the crisis My

17:56

love for you faded

18:01

Away that night

18:13

Gonna trade it off for something new

18:18

Gish the job money from someone

18:20

but it too I

18:23

don't wanna be here I

18:25

don't wanna wait I don't wanna

18:28

hate you Better

18:30

control All

18:37

the things that ever kept you standing

18:39

up have gone And everyone

18:42

you know is moving on Be

18:46

a funny guy who hides behind

18:48

a mask and still gets high And

18:51

I will walk myself into a

18:53

fire And

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I will The

19:16

pain just won't change my

19:19

mind Just

19:21

follow your date, the crisis

19:27

My love for

19:29

you, fade away The

19:34

pain just won't change my mind

19:38

Just follow your date,

19:40

the crisis My

19:44

love

19:48

for you, fade away The

19:51

pain that night The

19:56

pain just won't change

19:58

my mind If

20:06

you can find it here, you can find it anywhere

20:29

I know all the world around

20:32

me's crawling I'm

20:35

left holding on to the bag

20:38

and stuff left I

20:42

might be the problem

20:48

Our roads smash us how it goes If

20:52

you can find it here, you can find it anywhere

20:56

If you can find it here, you can find it anywhere We're

21:14

on the hill, leech and the

21:16

bread from the car man Loose

21:20

wheels close to the

21:22

edge out of pocket

21:25

Who knows, I might

21:27

be the problem If

21:32

you can find it here, you

21:34

can find it anywhere If

21:49

you can find it here, you can find it anywhere You

22:00

can find it anywhere, you can find it here

22:02

You can find it anywhere I

22:07

know all

22:10

the world around me is

22:13

crumbling Holding

22:16

on to the bag

22:18

and stumbling Who

22:22

knows, I might be the problem

22:28

You can find it here, you can

22:30

find it anywhere Three

22:42

cheers for the master plan

22:45

Clitched fists with a broken hand

22:48

Stuck in a corner Stuck in

22:50

a corner Full start

22:55

with no second chance Built

22:58

your house on a bed of sand Now

23:00

it's underwater, it's

23:02

underwater Back up and

23:04

look, she's ready to get it Yeah, I got a real big problem

23:15

She don't care So stick inside,

23:20

I'm committed left I'm

23:29

spinning blood, I'm suing

23:32

lust Got straight by a pretty

23:34

lie It's no greener

23:36

on the other side Like a lamp to

23:38

the shoulder, lamp to the shoulder

23:44

Don't care if I live or die

23:48

My life is a firefight And

23:50

I'm not a soldier, I'm not

23:53

a soldier Back

23:57

up and look, she's

23:59

ready to get it Yeah, yeah, I've got a real big heart but if she don't

24:01

care Run,

24:08

run, run, so sick

24:11

and tired of coming to last I'm

24:13

splitting blood, I'm just waiting for last Yeah,

24:33

yeah, yeah, yeah

24:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah,

24:41

yeah, yeah, yeah Well

24:50

I can't remember if she's done it again Yeah,

24:55

yeah, yeah I've got a real big problem,

24:59

she don't care So

25:03

sick and tired of coming to last I'm

25:09

splitting blood, I'm just waiting

25:12

for last Yeah,

25:17

yeah, yeah, yeah

25:28

Alright, that was a rocking one, I hope that got you moving James

25:30

and the Cold Gun, Chewing Glass, Bays Drum

25:32

of Death, Find It, and Elizabeth M. Drummond with

25:35

a song called Crisis, mixed in with Kristen

25:37

Hirsch as well We're going to be back in a minute, first though,

25:39

real quick, Martin wrote in Said, Hey

25:42

folks, I recently had a bad cycling accident

25:44

where I broke my collarbone and several ribs Just

25:46

got my collarbone repaired, had the green light to walk

25:48

as much as I want With all your recent episodes,

25:51

I have ample material to accompany me on these walks I

25:53

just want to say thanks, I'll be back to running

25:55

and riding my bike in one to two months And my sister and I will

25:57

be running the Seattle Marathon together in November

25:59

No small feat here in Seattle. A lot of rain, a lot

26:02

of hills here in Seattle. Thanks again for

26:04

all the tunes and for exposing me to new artists.

26:06

Keep running and riding and walking and moving.

26:08

Thank you, Martin. I love it so much. I think about my own injury

26:11

and that one makes me feel a lot better. You know, when

26:13

you're feeling down, kind of beat down mentally,

26:15

beat down physically, you definitely are

26:17

not alone. We'll be back in a minute

26:19

after a short break.

26:21

All right. I can't not not play this one. I

26:23

got this song called Time

26:25

to Run from Tyco. So, you

26:28

know, I think I'm contractually obligated to

26:30

play this song as soon as I get something titled

26:32

Time to Run.

29:14

When

33:31

you're prices

33:34

are coming Too many

33:36

people Get

33:53

a Old

34:30

heart in mind Sold

34:32

to the bind And what

34:35

a waste of cleanup Years

34:38

till finally begun brand new If you

34:40

felt� I

34:56

wanna be

35:00

there with you I don't

35:02

mind I

35:06

wanna set you in

35:09

motion I

35:12

don't mind I

35:14

wanna feel

35:16

your pain I'm

35:23

in the fields

35:33

of love And all the

35:40

trouble sets in No

35:43

I

35:47

can't look back No I can't

35:50

look back

36:04

I'm in the fields

36:06

of love I'm

36:10

in the fields

36:20

of love I

36:24

know the trouble's set No,

36:36

I can't look back No,

36:44

I can't look back

36:48

I'm in

36:52

the fields of love

36:56

I know

37:00

the trouble's set No,

37:08

I can't look back No,

37:14

I can't

37:16

look back I'm in the

37:20

fields of love

37:38

I'm

37:41

in the fields of love I'm

37:49

in the fields of love

37:59

25K, The Volcanic on Mount St. Helens

38:02

through Go Beyond Racing. Well, this year I'm writing to share

38:04

that I'm now an ultra runner. Just nine days ago, I

38:06

finished the Hawaii

38:08

Wonder 50K, my first ever stunning

38:11

fun-filled day, and I brought two special episodes of

38:13

the run cast with me. On the first big descent,

38:15

I plugged into Kevin's latest guest episode, so

38:18

good, and zoomed my way past a few folks on

38:20

the way to the 22-mile aid station. And

38:22

after sneaking out of the aid station 15 or 20 minutes

38:24

before the cutoff, I tuned into my favorite run cast

38:27

installment, the 2022 Ragnar

38:29

episode, oh, that was good. The very same one I

38:31

made sure was downloaded when I ran the 25K

38:33

last August. What a treat to be able to bring my KXP running

38:35

community with me when I race. Hearing those cowbells

38:38

in between sets made me feel like I was running with old friends,

38:41

and like I had fellow runners with me in the pain cave.

38:43

I may have started in the back and finished in the back, but I smashed

38:46

my goals to finish, have fun, and be ridiculous

38:48

in front of the race photographers. He did post

38:50

a really great picture to prove that. Thanks for all

38:52

you do. Hey, congratulations on the ultra. That's

38:55

hopefully where I'm headed in March, and

38:57

you just inspired me as well. Thank you for those

38:59

messages. Appreciate

38:59

you. You can always write us, runcast

39:02

at kexp.org. All right, I

39:04

want you to keep running here. We got this new one from Girl

39:06

Ray. It's called Up, keep moving.

39:09

♪ True love, true love ♪ ♪ I

39:12

can feel it when you're holding

39:14

me ♪ ♪ It

39:17

feels unreal that you choose me

39:19

as your one and only ♪

39:22

♪ Kiss me as you're one and only,

39:24

tell me baby ♪ ♪ Safe

39:27

in your arms, am I worthy of your

39:30

charms, I don't know ♪ ♪ Safe

39:35

in your arms, am I worthy of your

39:38

charms, I don't know ♪ ♪ Ah

39:44

ha, ah ha, ah ha, your

39:47

love and your sweet ♪ ♪ Ah

39:49

ha, ah ha, ah ha, your

39:51

love and your sweet ♪ ♪ Ah

39:56

ha, ah ha, ah ha, your love and

39:59

your sweet ♪ Ah,

40:02

ah, ah, ah,

40:05

ah... Say

40:09

it once again Ah,

40:13

ah, ah, ah... It's

40:18

dark... ...not

40:20

light... ...there's a

40:22

burning when I close my eyes...

40:27

2 hearts... ...come

40:30

behind... ...every day was

40:32

spent... ...searching for your

40:34

almond paradise... ...sick

40:37

in your arms... ...and my worthy of

40:39

your choice... ...I don't know... ...sick

40:45

in your arms... ...and my worthy of

40:48

your choice... ...I don't know... ...I

40:58

still with a heart... ...I

41:04

reach out for you... ...and

41:07

you... ...and

41:10

you... Ah, ah, ah, ah,

41:12

ah... Say

41:19

it once again Ah,

41:22

ah, ah, ah...

41:25

Ah, ah, ah, ah,

41:27

ah... Say

41:55

it once again You

42:30

don't need a look so appalled

42:34

I take care of it all

42:36

It's madness enough

42:40

Don't pick up, I just got to

42:43

say I'm happy

42:45

as can be I'm melting

42:48

away Don't

42:50

get mad at

42:53

me I'm just

42:56

sleeping lightly

43:00

Cause it's my big

43:03

day And I'm

43:06

wasting it away

43:10

Gladly Aerosols

43:15

drifting through the halls

43:17

that hide us above

43:21

Have I really lowered the

43:24

bar Or am I

43:26

working hard inspirational?

43:31

Why be bad?

43:34

Cause I'm not

43:37

feeling so good I

43:41

miss my big

43:45

day And I'm

43:48

not leaving summer

43:50

No way I

43:53

stay in the summer Night

43:56

time with the windows down Flakes

43:58

down in the corner Must

44:01

have gone better right this time

44:03

I'ma push it further Don't

44:06

hit me when it all falls down I'm

44:08

standing in the door, I'm begging you

44:11

Just don't get mad at me I'm just sleeping

44:13

lightly Cause

44:23

it's my big

44:26

day And I'm

44:28

wasting it

44:31

away Don't get

44:34

mad at me

44:38

I'm just sleeping

44:40

lightly Cause

44:44

it's my big

44:46

day And I'm

44:50

not even sober

44:54

Let's stay in the summer

44:57

Like time when the window's

44:59

down Face down in the corner Must

45:02

remember to rise this time

45:05

I'ma push it further Don't

45:07

hit me when it all falls down I'm

45:12

standing in the door, I'm begging

45:15

you Just don't get mad I

45:20

caught a clean line, seek no

45:22

rest Wonderful forever, it's it forever

45:24

yet Just the old soul for

45:27

the elephant gun Put a down phone

45:29

sign, heard the sudden sun Keep

45:31

clear, watch it for fear Never

45:33

show the call, I'm the engineer From the blue

45:36

S-light till the indigo dawn

45:38

Black space got a whole life to retcon

45:44

But I'm still getting it done I'm

45:50

still getting it done But

45:55

I'm like Johnny Deon Still

46:00

swinging I'm

46:11

in it, it's in me Telling

46:14

me to throw my body into the sea Will

46:16

the beast plus chains rain for a millennium?

46:18

Get some, that would shove me in stitches

46:22

To the back of my leg, some ericled dragon

46:24

Will get into the dregs, well I can't

46:26

survive The men in the sweet clothes

46:29

get still me And I'm in it But

46:35

I'm still getting it done I'm

46:40

still getting it done But

46:45

I'm like Johnny Beyong Still

46:51

rolling I'm

46:57

still getting it done I'm

47:11

still getting it done But

47:15

I'm like Johnny Beyong Still

47:21

swinging I'm still

47:23

getting it done I'm

47:27

still getting it done I'm

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still getting it done I'm still

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getting it done I'm still

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getting it done I'm still getting it

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done Ghost of Room, still

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getting it done That seemed like a song to throw

47:40

on the runcast For sure, Bombay Bicycle Club With

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My Big Day And Girl

47:46

Ray with Up As we continue on this

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run Big thank you to our podcast Producer

47:51

and Licensing Administrator Isabelle, appreciate

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you Owen as

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well, thank you so much Producer

47:57

of this podcast And Brooks

47:59

Running

47:59

and the people who support KXP. Everybody

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is a part of this. I really appreciate y'all. You

48:04

can always email me, runcastkxp.org. I

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get those too. Feedback questions, suggestions,

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all the good stuff. We have more Runcast

48:11

coming, tell everyone you know is a runner out there that

48:13

there is some inspiration out there and a community

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of runners who care about, not just physical

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health,

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but mental health as well. You be

48:21

safe out there as you run, be kind to one another,

48:23

and remember, you are not alone. Gonna leave you with

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one more. This is from a local band here in Seattle I

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just love. Small Paul is their name.

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Live Along the name of

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the track. I'll see you next time. Yeah!

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Oh! Well,

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if you can't, if

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you can't, oh,

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you'll play your life. On

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the run, oh, your life. It's

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a kind of track, oh,

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it's hard to fly. On

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the run, oh, your life. Live

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and know, live and know with you. Live and

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know, live and know with

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you. We're

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on our own, we

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ain't no time to

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heal. Keep your

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eyes on the road, and

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your head on the wheel. Shine,

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shine, oh, oh, you're

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mine When

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we rise, we'll

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find, find Let

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alone, let alone with you Let

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alone, let alone

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with you Show

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is life, see

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love in your eyes

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Well, show is

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life,

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see love in your

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eyes Well,

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show is life,

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tonight,

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tonight Well,

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show is life, see love in your

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eyes Where

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does your feeling go? Where

52:04

does your feeling go? Where

52:09

does your feeling go? Let

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it go Let

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it go Let

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it go Let

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it go with you Let

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it go Let it

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go with you Let

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it go