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The Sacred and the Profane: Tearing Down Satanic Monuments, Religious Rights, and the American Principle

The Sacred and the Profane: Tearing Down Satanic Monuments, Religious Rights, and the American Principle

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The Sacred and the Profane: Tearing Down Satanic Monuments, Religious Rights, and the American Principle

The Sacred and the Profane: Tearing Down Satanic Monuments, Religious Rights, and the American Principle

The Sacred and the Profane: Tearing Down Satanic Monuments, Religious Rights, and the American Principle

Thursday, 1st February 2024
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Hello patriots

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. So we have

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some news out

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there again . The

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show I did last night thank you guys

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for tuning in . It was

2:01

banned everywhere except for

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Rumble , even the

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video I posted on YouTube , which

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did not have any

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content on it . All it was was a screen

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that said watch this on YouTube

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. I mean watch this on Rumble , because YouTube

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does not allow this here . They removed that

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. Even so , this gentleman

2:22

who did that horrible thing to his father

2:24

in Pennsylvania is

2:26

. They are blocking all of it . I was on

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a Twitter space last night and

2:31

everybody was talking about how you can't even post his name

2:34

on any social media

2:36

, including Twitter , which is super

2:38

concerning . Now , obviously , the guy is calling

2:40

for violence , political violence , which I

2:42

do not support . However , you

2:45

do have the right to know

2:47

what's going on . You do have the

2:49

right to be

2:52

informed of the

2:55

world and what's in it . That's

3:00

just a

3:02

basic first amendment rights

3:04

, that we have the right to speak about

3:06

it , and then , of course , it's a private

3:08

company . Well then , why are all

3:11

of them coming

3:13

to this conclusion together at

3:15

the same time ? Why

3:18

are all of them banning it at the same

3:20

exact time ? It

3:23

doesn't make any sense , and the only thing that makes

3:25

sense is that somebody else is pulling the strings , kind

3:27

of like we saw with the Hunter laptop story

3:30

that it was just banned everywhere

3:32

because somebody was pulling the strings on that . This

3:34

is a different situation I understand . However

3:36

, banning things

3:39

do not make them go away , they

3:41

just make them more desirable . But

3:44

that's enough about that . There

3:47

is an incident where

3:49

Michael Cassidy he's a conservative

3:51

, he ran for political

3:54

office , I think in Mississippi and

3:57

in Iowa , in Iowa State

3:59

Capitol building , they had

4:02

put in a

4:04

Satanic Temple monument

4:08

that was put up by

4:10

the Satanic Temple of the area . It's

4:13

like a church . They exist , they're real

4:15

, they're not just fictional and in your mind

4:17

. They're out there . And

4:22

in the United States of America you do have freedom

4:24

of religion , so you can petition

4:27

a government to if they're going to place

4:30

Christmas trees and things to celebrate Jesus'

4:32

birthday , then other religions have the

4:34

right to display their

4:37

things for religion , like

4:39

the Jews . You know , you'll see a menorah and

4:41

the Satanic Temple said , hey , no , we

4:44

have the right to present this too , and

4:46

Michael Cassidy took

4:49

it upon himself to go in there and destroy it

4:51

, and now he's being arrested for a

4:53

hate crime . So let's

4:56

watch the news of when the temple first went

4:58

up and just kind

5:00

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5:19

If you are visiting the Iowa State House over the next

5:21

couple of weeks , you will see this in the Rotunda

5:23

. It's a holiday display put up by the

5:25

Satanic Temple . Kcci's

5:27

Beau Bowman went to the state house today to find out

5:30

more about it .

5:32

The supporters of this group say if there could

5:34

be a Christmas tree here in the capital then

5:36

they can display this put on

5:39

by the Iowa Satanic Temple .

5:41

We're going to really relish

5:43

the opportunity to be represented in a

5:45

public forum . We don't have a church on

5:47

every street corner , lucian .

5:48

Grieve's , co-founder of the Satanic Temple

5:51

, says this Satanic display is

5:53

a symbol for their right of religious freedom

5:55

. He says if you don't like , it , don't

5:57

look at it .

5:58

My feeling is that if people

6:00

don't like our displays in

6:02

public forums , they don't have to engage

6:05

with them , they don't have to view them .

6:07

It's a very dark evil force and

6:10

I truly hope people know how to battle

6:13

that .

6:13

Shelly Flockhart from Dallas Center says she

6:15

was shocked to see it at the capital . Okay

6:18

, come on in . Flockhart organized a prayer group

6:20

on Wednesday around the Christmas tree in

6:22

the center of the Rotunda to oppose the

6:24

Satanic display near the stairwell

6:26

. She calls it dark and evil and

6:29

says Christians should spiritually fight

6:31

against it .

6:32

One . I hope people realize spiritual warfare

6:34

is real , that there are evil

6:37

, Satanic forces that

6:39

are trying to infiltrate our state .

6:42

I'm told the altar here will be on display at

6:44

the state house for 14 days . At

6:46

the state house . Bob Oman KCCI 8 News

6:48

. Iowa's news leader .

6:50

By the way , the Satanic Temple says it

6:52

is a federally recognized nontheistic

6:55

group that uses Satanic symbols as a way

6:57

to convey its message . The Temple's

6:59

website says its work includes publicly

7:01

confronting hate groups and lobbying for

7:03

abortion rights . It says it does not

7:06

believe in the existence of Satan

7:08

or the supernatural .

7:11

So it's a political stunt , essentially , and

7:15

Michael Cassidy played right into their hands , so now

7:17

they're . He went in there , he bashed

7:19

it and now they're charging

7:21

him with a hate crime . He played right into

7:23

their hands . Obviously , this is a left-wing leaning

7:25

group who put this into mock Christianity

7:28

and depose it and played the system

7:30

in order to bait people in

7:33

. And here we are , here

7:35

we are Now

7:38

. You do have the right , if

7:41

you are a part of a religion

7:43

, to have it presented

7:47

and if

7:49

they're presenting other religions in

7:51

the state capital or

7:53

in any government building , if

7:56

they are

7:59

displaying

8:01

other religion things . Now there's a separation of church

8:03

and state and

8:06

it should not be

8:09

, in

8:11

my opinion , that no state building should

8:13

be part of any part of religion . They

8:15

shouldn't be celebrating any religious

8:17

holiday or any religious

8:19

type event . It's

8:22

nonsense . The state has no right

8:24

in the business of religion or presenting

8:26

a religion . You can be a religious person

8:29

and be part of the government

8:31

, but the government itself should not be

8:33

recognizing any sort

8:35

of religion , which is kind

8:37

of truly how the founders thought

8:39

it to be , and a lot

8:41

of you might disagree with that and we can have that discussion

8:44

, but

8:46

they played right into their hands

8:48

. Obviously , you

8:50

heard . The news report that we just watched

8:52

said that these people support

8:55

abortion rights and they go after hate

8:58

groups and they don't believe in Satan

9:00

or the supernatural . So why put up this

9:02

display inside

9:04

the state capital other than to

9:07

bait Republicans in to do something

9:09

stupid ? And

9:11

that's exactly what you got . And now

9:14

Michael Cassidy's facing

9:16

hate crime charges .

9:18

A Satanic Temple has set up a display

9:20

inside the Iowa State House . It's

9:23

the holiday season and even secular

9:25

government buildings display decorations

9:28

for holidays that are rooted in religion

9:30

, like Christmas trees and menorahs

9:32

. For 14 days , the Satanic

9:34

Temple has erected a display alongside

9:36

these major religious symbols inside

9:39

the rotunda of the Iowa State Capitol

9:41

. Lucian Grieve's , co-founder of

9:43

the Satanic Temple , spoke to KCCI

9:45

.

9:46

We're going to really relish

9:48

the opportunity to be represented in a

9:50

public forum . We don't have a church on

9:52

every street corner .

9:54

Though the temple went through the correct administrative

9:56

channels to present in the rotunda , the

9:58

display is getting pushback .

10:00

One . I hope people realize spiritual warfare

10:03

is real , that there are .

10:06

Well , that's basically the same video , just with suspenseful

10:08

music , but

10:11

they do have every right to be there , and I understand

10:13

that people are upset . Hold

10:17

on , I'm

10:22

trying to find a video , all

10:25

right ? So here

10:28

is Michael Cassidy

10:30

talking about this incident on

10:32

CBN News

10:34

, and let's hear his story

10:36

and what he has to say .

10:38

So , michael , you have been in the headlines over

10:40

the past few days after tearing

10:42

down , essentially decapitating , the

10:45

Satanic Temple's symbol

10:47

, this giant symbol that they placed in the Iowa

10:50

State Capitol . Take us through what

10:52

led you to take that action .

10:57

The state of Iowa put this Satanic

10:59

icon in the Iowa

11:01

Capitol a couple of weeks ago . I don't

11:03

know exactly when , but they put it up . I

11:07

saw news of it on social media

11:09

and , hopefully

11:12

, like almost the entire

11:14

country I would hope , but perhaps

11:17

not . When I saw it , I thought how on

11:19

earth can Satanic

11:21

icons be in the Capitol ? And

11:24

I thought it's some kind of

11:26

oversight , some little bureaucracy

11:28

. They

11:31

approved it but nobody knew about it , and

11:34

once people find out about it , they'll

11:36

take it down , because how can you honor

11:38

Satan like

11:41

they're doing ? And so I saw

11:43

on Wednesday that

11:45

it had not been taken down and

11:48

I didn't know what

11:50

the process was with

11:52

Iowa , who the decision

11:55

makers were , what arguments they were making . But

11:59

I decided to get a plane ticket , go

12:01

up to Iowa and

12:03

look at the thing myself , and I'll

12:05

tell you what . Whatever emotion you may

12:07

have felt looking at it online

12:10

, it's completely

12:12

different . When you are

12:14

actually in the Capitol . You're

12:16

next to the road time to the . I'm

12:20

an American , I've been in

12:22

the Navy for my entire adult life . I fought

12:24

to protect the country and it

12:26

wasn't to protect Satan

12:28

. We say so help me God , not so

12:31

help me Satan . And

12:33

then , being in the Capitol and

12:37

looking at this statue , this icon

12:41

, it became very

12:43

clear to me that this could

12:45

not stand . It

12:48

was intolerable for it

12:50

to be there . So

12:52

I did what I did . I

12:54

kind of cleaned up afterward . There

12:57

was some debris , some garbage really

12:59

, that had gone outside

13:01

of the little rectangle inside

13:04

the Capitol that was allowed

13:06

by the Capitol for them to be there . I

13:09

put everything back in there so nobody would trip

13:11

on a candle or something like that . Then

13:15

I went back into the security

13:17

terminal and

13:19

said , hey , I'm back and

13:22

this is what I did , I'm turning myself in .

13:25

And then how did they react to you

13:27

when you went in ? Because most people wouldn't

13:29

go and turn themselves in after that . What

13:31

was the reaction to that ?

13:35

It was kind of early in the morning , it was like 8.15

13:37

or so , I think they were kind of sleepy

13:40

. Whatever it's Wednesday , thursday , I

13:44

mean , hardly anybody was even in

13:46

the Capitol . I think it was a pretty . I don't

13:48

know if that's how it normally is , I don't know if it's in session

13:51

or not , but

13:53

it seemed kind of sleepy . They

13:55

were professional , but

13:57

it was kind of laid back . So

13:59

I said hey , that satanic icon

14:02

it's not there anymore . I

14:04

said something like that and they

14:06

said oh , okay , and I said yeah , I'm turning

14:08

myself in . I gave them my ID , my

14:11

phone number , and I

14:13

didn't know if they were the people to the

14:16

right people to talk to . But they were the best people

14:18

to talk to because there are no other cops

14:20

that I saw and they ended up calling

14:22

a state trooper or a couple

14:24

of them and eventually they came over , but

14:29

they were . I don't know

14:31

if they were expecting it . They didn't seem to be expecting

14:33

it .

14:36

And at that point were you arrested and charged

14:38

. Is that the point where that happened ?

14:41

So I think there is some bad information

14:44

that got put out by the media . I've seen it

14:46

in a couple of different outlets . It never

14:48

came from me . I know that I

14:50

was never arrested . There is no good

14:52

shot . I was never fingerprinted

14:55

or anything like that .

14:56

Because that's what ? Yeah , that's what . Multiple

14:58

reports are saying that you were arrested . So I was curious

15:01

. I hadn't seen that . No

15:03

, I hadn't seen evidence of that , so you were not arrested

15:05

. So what happened at that

15:07

point then ?

15:09

So after the cops

15:11

came over , they talked to

15:14

me . They started talking to higher ups , because

15:17

there's a bit

15:19

more than at

15:22

play , I guess , here , and

15:25

so I don't know exactly who

15:27

they were speaking with . But

15:29

after about 30 minutes or so of me

15:31

being there in the Capitol , they

15:33

said hey , you know you're free to go . And

15:37

they had my phone number . They said , hey , we'll

15:39

either give you a call or we'll

15:41

if it's a few days later , then we'll

15:43

send you some certified mail . I

15:46

think that's what they said , if they

15:49

decide to press charges , I think

15:51

. And then , sure enough , about 10

15:53

minutes after I left the Capitol , they

15:55

gave me a call and they said hey , can you

15:57

come on back to the station and

15:59

sign this paperwork , just saying

16:01

that , hey , here's the citation . And

16:04

so , of course , I went back . I mean , I already turned

16:06

myself in once . So , yeah , I'll go back . And

16:10

they gave me the .

16:11

So I mean , why did he do this and then turn himself

16:13

in ? Is this I

16:16

hate to say it , but is this a stunt to kind of get

16:18

popular , to run for election

16:21

? Is this really a deep , morally

16:23

rooted action ? I

16:26

don't really know . I mean , you're from Mississippi

16:28

, you fly all the way to Iowa just to destroy

16:30

this thing and then the first thing you do is tell everybody

16:32

what you did . I

16:35

mean , you can talk about taking the moral high ground , but

16:37

I mean it's

16:40

not your property . You went in there , you destroyed it . People

16:42

do have freedom of religion . I don't like

16:45

this statue , I don't think it should

16:47

be there . But people have the

16:49

right to freedom of religion and if you can have

16:51

your Christmas trees and your

16:53

menorahs and all your other religious

16:56

relics running through state capitals , then any

16:58

religion can do it . You could put a Buddha in there

17:00

, you could do it . Every you want . That's

17:03

. This whole country was

17:05

founded on freedom of religion . It

17:09

goes back to the Protestant

17:12

Reformation and the Mayflower escaping

17:15

religious persecution . That was

17:17

the point of it . And it says

17:19

that the Congress

17:21

shall make no law establishing religion

17:26

, respecting an establishment

17:29

of religion . So

17:31

why are we doing it with any religion

17:33

? That's me . I understand that most

17:37

of the audience is Christians . That's fine , that's

17:39

OK . I am too . It

17:41

doesn't take anything away from anybody

17:43

if the government isn't recognizing your religion

17:46

. Government has nothing to do with religion

17:48

. But , like

17:51

I said previously , if you're going to have your stuff there

17:53

, then they can have their stuff there . That's just the way it is

17:55

. Like I said , I'm not here to tell

17:57

you things that are popular or that you like . I'm

17:59

here to tell you the truth . That's the truth

18:01

.

18:04

The citation , and then I went

18:06

on my merry way .

18:09

So reports are also stating

18:11

it's fourth degree criminal mischief . Is

18:14

that accurate ? That's what the penalty

18:17

.

18:17

That is what the citation is for

18:19

. That is correct .

18:22

So what happens from here In terms of Ramaphic

18:24

? And then we'll get into more of the theological

18:26

issues here and why you took the action you did . What

18:29

happens now ? What penalties could you face

18:31

as a result of this ?

18:33

The maximum penalty is

18:36

for that specific

18:38

charge is , I believe , up

18:40

to one year in jail and

18:42

I think $2,500 , $2,700

18:45

, something like that in fines . That's

18:48

the maximum penalty .

18:51

Which I mean they

18:53

upgraded it to a hate crime now because

18:55

he turned himself in , and then obviously

18:58

these political activists

19:00

who did this want

19:02

the most extreme punishment possible , so

19:04

they pushed to get him charged with a hate

19:06

crime , even though when

19:08

the left tears down statues of Thomas

19:10

Jefferson or religious statues

19:13

, or breaks into graveyards and destroys

19:17

religious statues whatever

19:19

, they don't get charged with hate crimes Because

19:22

their activism . We

19:25

get charged with hate crimes when the right

19:27

decides to do the things that they're doing , which

19:29

is why you should never get roped into it .

19:34

Was that your only question ? Did you have a second question ?

19:36

Yeah , no , that is my only question

19:38

on that front . It's interesting because you've

19:40

ignited quite a debate , right , even

19:42

among Christians . You've got two

19:44

sides of this , people who are saying people

19:47

should be praising you for this and celebrating

19:49

you because you have taken down a symbol that

19:51

, honestly , shouldn't be there

19:53

. Even if there's a holiday argument

19:56

it's interesting to note that the Satanists

19:58

aren't . By the way , these Satanists , the Satanic

20:00

Temple , is an atheist group technically

20:03

, which is interesting , and that's

20:05

a whole other conversation but there's

20:07

no Christmas celebration happening here , right

20:09

? This is the time of year , we celebrate Christmas , and so that symbol

20:11

has nothing to do with Christmas . The

20:14

other side will say well

20:16

, we shouldn't be destroying property , we shouldn't do this

20:18

, and you have to allow more free

20:21

speech , not less , right

20:23

? So how do you respond to that debate

20:25

that you've ignited with this ?

20:28

I think that it's the wrong debate to

20:30

have that . It's extremely

20:33

simple that there

20:35

can be . We could talk about this for

20:37

hours , for days . There are

20:39

people that are much

20:41

more intelligent than I am , much more well-versed

20:44

in making good

20:46

Christian , good legal

20:48

arguments , but it really boils

20:51

down to God is good

20:53

and deserves praise and Satan

20:55

is evil and does not deserve praise

20:57

, and they're

20:59

not equal . There

21:02

is an example that I

21:04

gave .

21:05

Yeah , but that's your opinion , dude

21:07

, and I get it . I

21:10

get it . I'm a Christian , I get it . That's your belief

21:12

. Their belief is something different and

21:15

it is not your right to destroy or

21:17

attack their beliefs , just like it's

21:19

not their right to destroy or attack our

21:21

beliefs . I'm sorry you're

21:23

wrong . This situation

21:25

couldn't be any more wrong . I

21:28

don't like it . I really don't like

21:30

it . I think it was done intentionally to

21:32

antagonize Christians , which

21:34

obviously it was , when you look at who did it and why

21:36

they did it . But they

21:39

have the right to do that .

21:43

Earlier today , I think , was you

21:45

know if there was some you

21:47

know fake religious group that they call

21:50

themselves a religion and they decided

21:52

that they wanted to honor ISIS or

21:55

honor Osama bin Laden for 9-11

21:57

. And they got a permit from

22:00

a bureaucrat to

22:02

put a display

22:05

of the 6-foot 8-foot

22:07

tall Osama bin Laden inside

22:09

a safe capital . Who's

22:12

going to defend that ? There are going to be , of course

22:14

, there's always going to be somebody , but that doesn't mean

22:16

that it's a good argument . That doesn't mean

22:18

that we have to listen to it , that

22:21

there's a lot of just

22:24

, I think , misconceptions about what

22:26

a what

22:28

the Satanic temple , what the devil

22:31

is . The devil is bad and it's not something that we should

22:33

promote .

22:34

Well , and I think to make this point too you know the Satanic

22:36

temple is an atheist organization that

22:39

does not literally worship Satan

22:41

, but that doesn't mean that putting a symbol

22:43

of Satan because there's still a form the

22:45

argument can be made that you are still endorsing

22:48

. When you say hell , satan , you don't believe that Satan

22:50

exists , if you're on that side of the Satanist

22:52

. Of course , there are real Satanists out there who

22:54

do worship Satan , unfortunately , but you're

22:57

still giving credence and attention to

22:59

Satan , and you're doing it in a public forum

23:01

, and so , again , that's a totally different

23:04

conversation , and you brought

23:06

up an interesting example there . You also know , I'm sure , that there

23:08

are people who are accusing you of all sorts of things . They're

23:10

saying this is a PR stunt , that you went

23:12

there knowing you were going to do this , and how

23:14

do you respond to those people who would wage

23:17

those accusations ?

23:19

So I already said that and I'm here

23:21

to tell you I usually tell you guys this , but

23:23

I didn't watch this video . I don't watch I

23:25

typically do not watch the videos before

23:27

I go live . I want to have a genuine reaction

23:30

and a genuine response . I don't like to have

23:32

prepared scripts and speeches . I'm going

23:34

to say this . I'm going to say that I want you to hear

23:36

my genuine response . So that's

23:39

my feeling on this situation . Let's

23:41

hear what he has to say about it .

23:45

It's not that

23:47

the I certainly

23:50

saw this ahead

23:52

of time and was

23:54

, but I did not know

23:56

. I did not have a full plan of what I was going to do . I

23:59

didn't know if there was going to be security

24:02

there around the icon . I

24:05

didn't know if there were going to be politicians protesting

24:07

and

24:10

there was no set plan . There's

24:12

certainly an immense dislike that

24:15

I had that from

24:18

seeing it online . But

24:21

in terms of a PR stunt , you know I saw

24:23

that Satanist leader say

24:25

that another misconception that's

24:27

out there that I want to make clear . But

24:31

there's talk that I'm an active

24:33

political candidate . I am not an active

24:35

political candidate . I have no campaign for office

24:37

. I have in the past , but there's

24:40

no campaign for office and

24:42

that is so . That's not

24:45

a an accurate thing

24:47

. And for the people that are saying

24:49

, hey , you're doing this for some kind of gain , I

24:51

mean I'm risking a

24:54

. When I made that decision in the capital

24:57

, I knew

24:59

that there was going to be potential penalties . I

25:01

don't know what the exact you know charge was going to

25:03

be . I could imagine that

25:06

. You know it could lead to jail

25:08

, could lead to other you know severe

25:10

financial hardship . But

25:13

it was the right thing to do that

25:16

we should not tolerate Satan

25:18

, and so that that's

25:20

what I , that's what I say to them .

25:23

And thank you for clarifying that , too , because , yes , you

25:25

know , I know you ran in 2022 , I believe there

25:27

there have been people saying that you have an active campaign

25:29

, which is not , which is not true , and

25:32

so thank you for clarifying that . What happens

25:34

now , moving forward here , because obviously

25:36

you have these potential penalties , what

25:39

? What are the next steps from you

25:41

, from authorities that you know of at this point ?

25:45

There's a court date on December

25:47

29th and

25:49

again , I'm not a lawyer , so

25:52

the I may use the incorrect

25:54

phrase for exactly the terminology

25:56

of what of what's going to happen , but I

25:58

think that's the initial arraignment

26:00

when we

26:02

enter our plea . We we

26:05

may do that earlier . We're talking

26:07

, I'm talking with the lawyers , with counsel

26:09

, right now about what

26:11

the best plan is forward and

26:14

I'm certainly going to listen to , to

26:16

their advice , but go with what's in

26:18

my heart about what the right thing to do going

26:20

forward is .

26:22

And as far as law , have you had law firms reaching

26:24

out to you ? I was curious about that . You know religious

26:27

liberty law firms . Have you had any of those groups reaching

26:29

out or have you had to kind of go out and get counsel on your

26:31

own ?

26:32

So I I

26:34

had a previous relationship with

26:37

a lawyer , a legal relationship

26:39

with a lawyer that I knew from , had

26:42

helped out some military service

26:44

members in regards to the

26:46

COVID-19 mandate for

26:48

the military , and

26:50

when I have had legal

26:52

trouble , I reached out to those guys and

26:54

I said , hey , this is one of the good guys . So

26:57

I gave him a call and

26:59

then we certainly had a lot

27:01

of people offer , offer

27:04

help , many pro bono

27:06

, which has been a blessing

27:08

, I believe

27:12

. Right now I know that I've got my my own

27:14

personal lawyer .

27:15

He's not in Iowa , though , so it

27:19

looks like he's just talking about his legal representation

27:21

now . But this is now

27:24

. It was criminal mischief , but

27:26

now it is a hate

27:29

crime , so it's going

27:31

to have a little bit more penalties

27:35

to it . So

27:37

let's look up the hate crime . Is

27:41

that it ? Did that just pop up ? Let's look

27:44

up the Iowa hate crime . Let

27:47

me zoom in on this and we'll get this

27:50

. We'll take a look at this . But

27:52

now they've upgraded it and you

27:54

know he didn't really achieve anything . I don't

27:57

know what he was trying to achieve . Violation

28:00

of individual rights

28:02

hate crime . Hate crime means one of the following public

28:05

offenses committed offenses

28:07

one committed against the person or person's

28:09

property because of their race

28:11

, color , religion , ancestry

28:13

, national origin , political

28:15

affiliation , sex , sexual orientation , age

28:17

, disability or the person's association with

28:20

a person of a certain race , color , religion

28:22

, ancestry

28:24

, national origin , political affiliation

28:27

, sex , sexual orientation , age or

28:29

disability . So

28:33

now this would fall under this section

28:35

three here of criminal mischief in violation

28:37

of individuals

28:40

rights , under

28:42

section 716 alpha

28:44

. Now that's exactly what happened

28:46

. They upgraded it because it is criminal mischief

28:49

, but the criminal mischief was done because

28:52

you don't like the

28:55

quote . Unquote religious entity . Now

28:57

he made a point about well

28:59

, somebody can create any religion and

29:02

put it in the capital . I mean , that's kind of how America

29:05

works . If you want to worship

29:07

a ham sandwich , you can worship a ham sandwich

29:09

. They have to leave you alone . That's like ultimate freedom

29:12

and I get you know

29:14

we don't agree with it . It's kind of like free speech

29:16

. The free speech that is protected is the speech

29:18

that nobody wants to hear . This

29:21

is the equivalent of stopping

29:23

speech you don't like is stopping a

29:26

religious belief you don't like or an anti

29:28

religious belief you don't like . This

29:30

is the exact opposite . And

29:32

you know , in my opinion , michael Cassie is on the wrong

29:35

side of history and he may feel

29:37

vindicated , he may feel good in

29:39

the eyes of his public

29:42

and his religion and

29:44

his God , and that's fine , that's okay

29:46

. But there are consequences for that . And

29:49

you know , on the other side of the table , there

29:51

should be consequences for when somebody damages

29:54

a Christmas tree or

29:56

a crucifix or you

29:58

know whatever , because they don't

30:00

like Christianity . And

30:03

that's exactly

30:06

how America

30:08

should work . And when we cross into

30:10

the other side of trying to stop people from doing

30:12

what they want to do , then we're

30:14

violating their rights and

30:16

we can't have it both ways . We cannot have

30:18

our cake and eat it too . Thank

30:20

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