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Hello patriots
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. So we have
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some news out
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there again . The
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show I did last night thank you guys
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for tuning in . It was
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banned everywhere except for
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Rumble , even the
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video I posted on YouTube , which
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did not have any
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content on it . All it was was a screen
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that said watch this on YouTube
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. I mean watch this on Rumble , because YouTube
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does not allow this here . They removed that
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. Even so , this gentleman
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who did that horrible thing to his father
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in Pennsylvania is
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. They are blocking all of it . I was on
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a Twitter space last night and
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everybody was talking about how you can't even post his name
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on any social media
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, including Twitter , which is super
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concerning . Now , obviously , the guy is calling
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for violence , political violence , which I
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do not support . However , you
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do have the right to know
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what's going on . You do have the
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right to be
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informed of the
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world and what's in it . That's
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just a
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basic first amendment rights
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, that we have the right to speak about
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it , and then , of course , it's a private
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company . Well then , why are all
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of them coming
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to this conclusion together at
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the same time ? Why
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are all of them banning it at the same
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exact time ? It
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doesn't make any sense , and the only thing that makes
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sense is that somebody else is pulling the strings , kind
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of like we saw with the Hunter laptop story
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that it was just banned everywhere
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because somebody was pulling the strings on that . This
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is a different situation I understand . However
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, banning things
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do not make them go away , they
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just make them more desirable . But
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that's enough about that . There
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is an incident where
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Michael Cassidy he's a conservative
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, he ran for political
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office , I think in Mississippi and
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in Iowa , in Iowa State
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Capitol building , they had
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put in a
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Satanic Temple monument
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that was put up by
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the Satanic Temple of the area . It's
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like a church . They exist , they're real
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, they're not just fictional and in your mind
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. They're out there . And
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in the United States of America you do have freedom
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of religion , so you can petition
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a government to if they're going to place
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Christmas trees and things to celebrate Jesus'
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birthday , then other religions have the
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right to display their
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things for religion , like
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the Jews . You know , you'll see a menorah and
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the Satanic Temple said , hey , no , we
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have the right to present this too , and
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Michael Cassidy took
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it upon himself to go in there and destroy it
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, and now he's being arrested for a
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hate crime . So let's
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watch the news of when the temple first went
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up and just kind
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If you are visiting the Iowa State House over the next
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couple of weeks , you will see this in the Rotunda
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. It's a holiday display put up by the
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Satanic Temple . Kcci's
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Beau Bowman went to the state house today to find out
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more about it .
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The supporters of this group say if there could
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be a Christmas tree here in the capital then
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they can display this put on
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by the Iowa Satanic Temple .
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We're going to really relish
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the opportunity to be represented in a
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public forum . We don't have a church on
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every street corner , lucian .
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Grieve's , co-founder of the Satanic Temple
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, says this Satanic display is
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a symbol for their right of religious freedom
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. He says if you don't like , it , don't
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look at it .
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My feeling is that if people
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don't like our displays in
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public forums , they don't have to engage
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with them , they don't have to view them .
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It's a very dark evil force and
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I truly hope people know how to battle
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that .
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Shelly Flockhart from Dallas Center says she
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was shocked to see it at the capital . Okay
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, come on in . Flockhart organized a prayer group
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on Wednesday around the Christmas tree in
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the center of the Rotunda to oppose the
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Satanic display near the stairwell
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. She calls it dark and evil and
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says Christians should spiritually fight
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against it .
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One . I hope people realize spiritual warfare
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is real , that there are evil
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, Satanic forces that
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are trying to infiltrate our state .
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I'm told the altar here will be on display at
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the state house for 14 days . At
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the state house . Bob Oman KCCI 8 News
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. Iowa's news leader .
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By the way , the Satanic Temple says it
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is a federally recognized nontheistic
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group that uses Satanic symbols as a way
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to convey its message . The Temple's
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website says its work includes publicly
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confronting hate groups and lobbying for
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abortion rights . It says it does not
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believe in the existence of Satan
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or the supernatural .
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So it's a political stunt , essentially , and
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Michael Cassidy played right into their hands , so now
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they're . He went in there , he bashed
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it and now they're charging
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him with a hate crime . He played right into
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their hands . Obviously , this is a left-wing leaning
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group who put this into mock Christianity
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and depose it and played the system
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in order to bait people in
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. And here we are , here
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we are Now
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. You do have the right , if
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you are a part of a religion
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, to have it presented
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and if
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they're presenting other religions in
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the state capital or
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in any government building , if
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they are
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displaying
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other religion things . Now there's a separation of church
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and state and
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it should not be
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, in
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my opinion , that no state building should
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be part of any part of religion . They
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shouldn't be celebrating any religious
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holiday or any religious
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type event . It's
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nonsense . The state has no right
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in the business of religion or presenting
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a religion . You can be a religious person
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and be part of the government
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, but the government itself should not be
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recognizing any sort
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of religion , which is kind
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of truly how the founders thought
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it to be , and a lot
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of you might disagree with that and we can have that discussion
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, but
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they played right into their hands
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. Obviously , you
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heard . The news report that we just watched
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said that these people support
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abortion rights and they go after hate
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groups and they don't believe in Satan
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or the supernatural . So why put up this
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display inside
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the state capital other than to
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bait Republicans in to do something
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stupid ? And
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that's exactly what you got . And now
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Michael Cassidy's facing
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hate crime charges .
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A Satanic Temple has set up a display
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inside the Iowa State House . It's
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the holiday season and even secular
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government buildings display decorations
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for holidays that are rooted in religion
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, like Christmas trees and menorahs
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. For 14 days , the Satanic
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Temple has erected a display alongside
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these major religious symbols inside
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the rotunda of the Iowa State Capitol
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. Lucian Grieve's , co-founder of
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the Satanic Temple , spoke to KCCI
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.
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We're going to really relish
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the opportunity to be represented in a
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public forum . We don't have a church on
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every street corner .
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Though the temple went through the correct administrative
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channels to present in the rotunda , the
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display is getting pushback .
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One . I hope people realize spiritual warfare
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is real , that there are .
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Well , that's basically the same video , just with suspenseful
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music , but
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they do have every right to be there , and I understand
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that people are upset . Hold
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on , I'm
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trying to find a video , all
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right ? So here
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is Michael Cassidy
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talking about this incident on
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CBN News
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, and let's hear his story
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and what he has to say .
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So , michael , you have been in the headlines over
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the past few days after tearing
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down , essentially decapitating , the
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Satanic Temple's symbol
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, this giant symbol that they placed in the Iowa
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State Capitol . Take us through what
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led you to take that action .
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The state of Iowa put this Satanic
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icon in the Iowa
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Capitol a couple of weeks ago . I don't
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know exactly when , but they put it up . I
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saw news of it on social media
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and , hopefully
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, like almost the entire
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country I would hope , but perhaps
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not . When I saw it , I thought how on
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earth can Satanic
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icons be in the Capitol ? And
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I thought it's some kind of
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oversight , some little bureaucracy
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. They
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approved it but nobody knew about it , and
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once people find out about it , they'll
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take it down , because how can you honor
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Satan like
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they're doing ? And so I saw
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on Wednesday that
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it had not been taken down and
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I didn't know what
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the process was with
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Iowa , who the decision
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makers were , what arguments they were making . But
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I decided to get a plane ticket , go
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up to Iowa and
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look at the thing myself , and I'll
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tell you what . Whatever emotion you may
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have felt looking at it online
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, it's completely
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different . When you are
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actually in the Capitol . You're
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next to the road time to the . I'm
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an American , I've been in
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the Navy for my entire adult life . I fought
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to protect the country and it
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wasn't to protect Satan
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. We say so help me God , not so
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help me Satan . And
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then , being in the Capitol and
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looking at this statue , this icon
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, it became very
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clear to me that this could
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not stand . It
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was intolerable for it
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to be there . So
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I did what I did . I
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kind of cleaned up afterward . There
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was some debris , some garbage really
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, that had gone outside
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of the little rectangle inside
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the Capitol that was allowed
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by the Capitol for them to be there . I
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put everything back in there so nobody would trip
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on a candle or something like that . Then
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I went back into the security
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terminal and
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said , hey , I'm back and
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this is what I did , I'm turning myself in .
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And then how did they react to you
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when you went in ? Because most people wouldn't
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go and turn themselves in after that . What
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was the reaction to that ?
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It was kind of early in the morning , it was like 8.15
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or so , I think they were kind of sleepy
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. Whatever it's Wednesday , thursday , I
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mean , hardly anybody was even in
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the Capitol . I think it was a pretty . I don't
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know if that's how it normally is , I don't know if it's in session
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or not , but
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it seemed kind of sleepy . They
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were professional , but
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it was kind of laid back . So
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I said hey , that satanic icon
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it's not there anymore . I
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said something like that and they
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said oh , okay , and I said yeah , I'm turning
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myself in . I gave them my ID , my
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phone number , and I
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didn't know if they were the people to the
14:16
right people to talk to . But they were the best people
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to talk to because there are no other cops
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that I saw and they ended up calling
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a state trooper or a couple
14:24
of them and eventually they came over , but
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they were . I don't know
14:31
if they were expecting it . They didn't seem to be expecting
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it .
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And at that point were you arrested and charged
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. Is that the point where that happened ?
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So I think there is some bad information
14:44
that got put out by the media . I've seen it
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in a couple of different outlets . It never
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came from me . I know that I
14:50
was never arrested . There is no good
14:52
shot . I was never fingerprinted
14:55
or anything like that .
14:56
Because that's what ? Yeah , that's what . Multiple
14:58
reports are saying that you were arrested . So I was curious
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. I hadn't seen that . No
15:03
, I hadn't seen evidence of that , so you were not arrested
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. So what happened at that
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point then ?
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So after the cops
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came over , they talked to
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me . They started talking to higher ups , because
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there's a bit
15:19
more than at
15:22
play , I guess , here , and
15:25
so I don't know exactly who
15:27
they were speaking with . But
15:29
after about 30 minutes or so of me
15:31
being there in the Capitol , they
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said hey , you know you're free to go . And
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they had my phone number . They said , hey , we'll
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either give you a call or we'll
15:41
if it's a few days later , then we'll
15:43
send you some certified mail . I
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think that's what they said , if they
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decide to press charges , I think
15:51
. And then , sure enough , about 10
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minutes after I left the Capitol , they
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gave me a call and they said hey , can you
15:57
come on back to the station and
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sign this paperwork , just saying
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that , hey , here's the citation . And
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so , of course , I went back . I mean , I already turned
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myself in once . So , yeah , I'll go back . And
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they gave me the .
16:11
So I mean , why did he do this and then turn himself
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in ? Is this I
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hate to say it , but is this a stunt to kind of get
16:18
popular , to run for election
16:21
? Is this really a deep , morally
16:23
rooted action ? I
16:26
don't really know . I mean , you're from Mississippi
16:28
, you fly all the way to Iowa just to destroy
16:30
this thing and then the first thing you do is tell everybody
16:32
what you did . I
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mean , you can talk about taking the moral high ground , but
16:37
I mean it's
16:40
not your property . You went in there , you destroyed it . People
16:42
do have freedom of religion . I don't like
16:45
this statue , I don't think it should
16:47
be there . But people have the
16:49
right to freedom of religion and if you can have
16:51
your Christmas trees and your
16:53
menorahs and all your other religious
16:56
relics running through state capitals , then any
16:58
religion can do it . You could put a Buddha in there
17:00
, you could do it . Every you want . That's
17:03
. This whole country was
17:05
founded on freedom of religion . It
17:09
goes back to the Protestant
17:12
Reformation and the Mayflower escaping
17:15
religious persecution . That was
17:17
the point of it . And it says
17:19
that the Congress
17:21
shall make no law establishing religion
17:26
, respecting an establishment
17:29
of religion . So
17:31
why are we doing it with any religion
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? That's me . I understand that most
17:37
of the audience is Christians . That's fine , that's
17:39
OK . I am too . It
17:41
doesn't take anything away from anybody
17:43
if the government isn't recognizing your religion
17:46
. Government has nothing to do with religion
17:48
. But , like
17:51
I said previously , if you're going to have your stuff there
17:53
, then they can have their stuff there . That's just the way it is
17:55
. Like I said , I'm not here to tell
17:57
you things that are popular or that you like . I'm
17:59
here to tell you the truth . That's the truth
18:01
.
18:04
The citation , and then I went
18:06
on my merry way .
18:09
So reports are also stating
18:11
it's fourth degree criminal mischief . Is
18:14
that accurate ? That's what the penalty
18:17
.
18:17
That is what the citation is for
18:19
. That is correct .
18:22
So what happens from here In terms of Ramaphic
18:24
? And then we'll get into more of the theological
18:26
issues here and why you took the action you did . What
18:29
happens now ? What penalties could you face
18:31
as a result of this ?
18:33
The maximum penalty is
18:36
for that specific
18:38
charge is , I believe , up
18:40
to one year in jail and
18:42
I think $2,500 , $2,700
18:45
, something like that in fines . That's
18:48
the maximum penalty .
18:51
Which I mean they
18:53
upgraded it to a hate crime now because
18:55
he turned himself in , and then obviously
18:58
these political activists
19:00
who did this want
19:02
the most extreme punishment possible , so
19:04
they pushed to get him charged with a hate
19:06
crime , even though when
19:08
the left tears down statues of Thomas
19:10
Jefferson or religious statues
19:13
, or breaks into graveyards and destroys
19:17
religious statues whatever
19:19
, they don't get charged with hate crimes Because
19:22
their activism . We
19:25
get charged with hate crimes when the right
19:27
decides to do the things that they're doing , which
19:29
is why you should never get roped into it .
19:34
Was that your only question ? Did you have a second question ?
19:36
Yeah , no , that is my only question
19:38
on that front . It's interesting because you've
19:40
ignited quite a debate , right , even
19:42
among Christians . You've got two
19:44
sides of this , people who are saying people
19:47
should be praising you for this and celebrating
19:49
you because you have taken down a symbol that
19:51
, honestly , shouldn't be there
19:53
. Even if there's a holiday argument
19:56
it's interesting to note that the Satanists
19:58
aren't . By the way , these Satanists , the Satanic
20:00
Temple , is an atheist group technically
20:03
, which is interesting , and that's
20:05
a whole other conversation but there's
20:07
no Christmas celebration happening here , right
20:09
? This is the time of year , we celebrate Christmas , and so that symbol
20:11
has nothing to do with Christmas . The
20:14
other side will say well
20:16
, we shouldn't be destroying property , we shouldn't do this
20:18
, and you have to allow more free
20:21
speech , not less , right
20:23
? So how do you respond to that debate
20:25
that you've ignited with this ?
20:28
I think that it's the wrong debate to
20:30
have that . It's extremely
20:33
simple that there
20:35
can be . We could talk about this for
20:37
hours , for days . There are
20:39
people that are much
20:41
more intelligent than I am , much more well-versed
20:44
in making good
20:46
Christian , good legal
20:48
arguments , but it really boils
20:51
down to God is good
20:53
and deserves praise and Satan
20:55
is evil and does not deserve praise
20:57
, and they're
20:59
not equal . There
21:02
is an example that I
21:04
gave .
21:05
Yeah , but that's your opinion , dude
21:07
, and I get it . I
21:10
get it . I'm a Christian , I get it . That's your belief
21:12
. Their belief is something different and
21:15
it is not your right to destroy or
21:17
attack their beliefs , just like it's
21:19
not their right to destroy or attack our
21:21
beliefs . I'm sorry you're
21:23
wrong . This situation
21:25
couldn't be any more wrong . I
21:28
don't like it . I really don't like
21:30
it . I think it was done intentionally to
21:32
antagonize Christians , which
21:34
obviously it was , when you look at who did it and why
21:36
they did it . But they
21:39
have the right to do that .
21:43
Earlier today , I think , was you
21:45
know if there was some you
21:47
know fake religious group that they call
21:50
themselves a religion and they decided
21:52
that they wanted to honor ISIS or
21:55
honor Osama bin Laden for 9-11
21:57
. And they got a permit from
22:00
a bureaucrat to
22:02
put a display
22:05
of the 6-foot 8-foot
22:07
tall Osama bin Laden inside
22:09
a safe capital . Who's
22:12
going to defend that ? There are going to be , of course
22:14
, there's always going to be somebody , but that doesn't mean
22:16
that it's a good argument . That doesn't mean
22:18
that we have to listen to it , that
22:21
there's a lot of just
22:24
, I think , misconceptions about what
22:26
a what
22:28
the Satanic temple , what the devil
22:31
is . The devil is bad and it's not something that we should
22:33
promote .
22:34
Well , and I think to make this point too you know the Satanic
22:36
temple is an atheist organization that
22:39
does not literally worship Satan
22:41
, but that doesn't mean that putting a symbol
22:43
of Satan because there's still a form the
22:45
argument can be made that you are still endorsing
22:48
. When you say hell , satan , you don't believe that Satan
22:50
exists , if you're on that side of the Satanist
22:52
. Of course , there are real Satanists out there who
22:54
do worship Satan , unfortunately , but you're
22:57
still giving credence and attention to
22:59
Satan , and you're doing it in a public forum
23:01
, and so , again , that's a totally different
23:04
conversation , and you brought
23:06
up an interesting example there . You also know , I'm sure , that there
23:08
are people who are accusing you of all sorts of things . They're
23:10
saying this is a PR stunt , that you went
23:12
there knowing you were going to do this , and how
23:14
do you respond to those people who would wage
23:17
those accusations ?
23:19
So I already said that and I'm here
23:21
to tell you I usually tell you guys this , but
23:23
I didn't watch this video . I don't watch I
23:25
typically do not watch the videos before
23:27
I go live . I want to have a genuine reaction
23:30
and a genuine response . I don't like to have
23:32
prepared scripts and speeches . I'm going
23:34
to say this . I'm going to say that I want you to hear
23:36
my genuine response . So that's
23:39
my feeling on this situation . Let's
23:41
hear what he has to say about it .
23:45
It's not that
23:47
the I certainly
23:50
saw this ahead
23:52
of time and was
23:54
, but I did not know
23:56
. I did not have a full plan of what I was going to do . I
23:59
didn't know if there was going to be security
24:02
there around the icon . I
24:05
didn't know if there were going to be politicians protesting
24:07
and
24:10
there was no set plan . There's
24:12
certainly an immense dislike that
24:15
I had that from
24:18
seeing it online . But
24:21
in terms of a PR stunt , you know I saw
24:23
that Satanist leader say
24:25
that another misconception that's
24:27
out there that I want to make clear . But
24:31
there's talk that I'm an active
24:33
political candidate . I am not an active
24:35
political candidate . I have no campaign for office
24:37
. I have in the past , but there's
24:40
no campaign for office and
24:42
that is so . That's not
24:45
a an accurate thing
24:47
. And for the people that are saying
24:49
, hey , you're doing this for some kind of gain , I
24:51
mean I'm risking a
24:54
. When I made that decision in the capital
24:57
, I knew
24:59
that there was going to be potential penalties . I
25:01
don't know what the exact you know charge was going to
25:03
be . I could imagine that
25:06
. You know it could lead to jail
25:08
, could lead to other you know severe
25:10
financial hardship . But
25:13
it was the right thing to do that
25:16
we should not tolerate Satan
25:18
, and so that that's
25:20
what I , that's what I say to them .
25:23
And thank you for clarifying that , too , because , yes , you
25:25
know , I know you ran in 2022 , I believe there
25:27
there have been people saying that you have an active campaign
25:29
, which is not , which is not true , and
25:32
so thank you for clarifying that . What happens
25:34
now , moving forward here , because obviously
25:36
you have these potential penalties , what
25:39
? What are the next steps from you
25:41
, from authorities that you know of at this point ?
25:45
There's a court date on December
25:47
29th and
25:49
again , I'm not a lawyer , so
25:52
the I may use the incorrect
25:54
phrase for exactly the terminology
25:56
of what of what's going to happen , but I
25:58
think that's the initial arraignment
26:00
when we
26:02
enter our plea . We we
26:05
may do that earlier . We're talking
26:07
, I'm talking with the lawyers , with counsel
26:09
, right now about what
26:11
the best plan is forward and
26:14
I'm certainly going to listen to , to
26:16
their advice , but go with what's in
26:18
my heart about what the right thing to do going
26:20
forward is .
26:22
And as far as law , have you had law firms reaching
26:24
out to you ? I was curious about that . You know religious
26:27
liberty law firms . Have you had any of those groups reaching
26:29
out or have you had to kind of go out and get counsel on your
26:31
own ?
26:32
So I I
26:34
had a previous relationship with
26:37
a lawyer , a legal relationship
26:39
with a lawyer that I knew from , had
26:42
helped out some military service
26:44
members in regards to the
26:46
COVID-19 mandate for
26:48
the military , and
26:50
when I have had legal
26:52
trouble , I reached out to those guys and
26:54
I said , hey , this is one of the good guys . So
26:57
I gave him a call and
26:59
then we certainly had a lot
27:01
of people offer , offer
27:04
help , many pro bono
27:06
, which has been a blessing
27:08
, I believe
27:12
. Right now I know that I've got my my own
27:14
personal lawyer .
27:15
He's not in Iowa , though , so it
27:19
looks like he's just talking about his legal representation
27:21
now . But this is now
27:24
. It was criminal mischief , but
27:26
now it is a hate
27:29
crime , so it's going
27:31
to have a little bit more penalties
27:35
to it . So
27:37
let's look up the hate crime . Is
27:41
that it ? Did that just pop up ? Let's look
27:44
up the Iowa hate crime . Let
27:47
me zoom in on this and we'll get this
27:50
. We'll take a look at this . But
27:52
now they've upgraded it and you
27:54
know he didn't really achieve anything . I don't
27:57
know what he was trying to achieve . Violation
28:00
of individual rights
28:02
hate crime . Hate crime means one of the following public
28:05
offenses committed offenses
28:07
one committed against the person or person's
28:09
property because of their race
28:11
, color , religion , ancestry
28:13
, national origin , political
28:15
affiliation , sex , sexual orientation , age
28:17
, disability or the person's association with
28:20
a person of a certain race , color , religion
28:22
, ancestry
28:24
, national origin , political affiliation
28:27
, sex , sexual orientation , age or
28:29
disability . So
28:33
now this would fall under this section
28:35
three here of criminal mischief in violation
28:37
of individuals
28:40
rights , under
28:42
section 716 alpha
28:44
. Now that's exactly what happened
28:46
. They upgraded it because it is criminal mischief
28:49
, but the criminal mischief was done because
28:52
you don't like the
28:55
quote . Unquote religious entity . Now
28:57
he made a point about well
28:59
, somebody can create any religion and
29:02
put it in the capital . I mean , that's kind of how America
29:05
works . If you want to worship
29:07
a ham sandwich , you can worship a ham sandwich
29:09
. They have to leave you alone . That's like ultimate freedom
29:12
and I get you know
29:14
we don't agree with it . It's kind of like free speech
29:16
. The free speech that is protected is the speech
29:18
that nobody wants to hear . This
29:21
is the equivalent of stopping
29:23
speech you don't like is stopping a
29:26
religious belief you don't like or an anti
29:28
religious belief you don't like . This
29:30
is the exact opposite . And
29:32
you know , in my opinion , michael Cassie is on the wrong
29:35
side of history and he may feel
29:37
vindicated , he may feel good in
29:39
the eyes of his public
29:42
and his religion and
29:44
his God , and that's fine , that's okay
29:46
. But there are consequences for that . And
29:49
you know , on the other side of the table , there
29:51
should be consequences for when somebody damages
29:54
a Christmas tree or
29:56
a crucifix or you
29:58
know whatever , because they don't
30:00
like Christianity . And
30:03
that's exactly
30:06
how America
30:08
should work . And when we cross into
30:10
the other side of trying to stop people from doing
30:12
what they want to do , then we're
30:14
violating their rights and
30:16
we can't have it both ways . We cannot have
30:18
our cake and eat it too . Thank
30:20
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