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The ShotSpotter Split: Chicago's Public Safety in the Balance Amidst Political Turmoil

The ShotSpotter Split: Chicago's Public Safety in the Balance Amidst Political Turmoil

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The ShotSpotter Split: Chicago's Public Safety in the Balance Amidst Political Turmoil

The ShotSpotter Split: Chicago's Public Safety in the Balance Amidst Political Turmoil

Friday, 23rd February 2024
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that all right .

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are you ?

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stupid or what ? I'm kidding

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with you . What the fuck are you doing ?

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Are you fucking sick maniac ? I don't know . If

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you're kidding , what do you mean ? You're kidding .

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is your host , ryan Samuels you .

1:51

Hello patriots , we are back

1:54

again and there's one

1:56

trend that we

1:58

notice here on the show and

2:01

that is that liberals sometimes

2:03

just make dumb decisions

2:06

. They , they just

2:08

make . It's almost as if it's calculated

2:11

Idiocracy

2:13

like their plan on . They

2:15

plan on being as

2:18

dumb as possible . That

2:20

Chicago has

2:23

a system that's

2:25

in place . It's an infrastructure of

2:28

Basically

2:31

sound equipment , microphones . They pick

2:33

up A gunfire

2:35

. Right now that's the only thing that it picks up . It

2:37

picks up gunfire . So if you're anywhere

2:39

within the city limits of Chicago and

2:42

a gun goes off , the police are immediately

2:44

notified at the shots and then

2:46

they dispatch police officers directly to

2:48

the where the shots were . It could tell

2:50

you , like to , to the inch when

2:53

they came from . So it's

2:55

a great tool to have on

2:58

the side of law enforcement . So if somebody gets shot

3:00

, police are notified immediately

3:02

. They don't have to wait for somebody to call 911

3:04

. They can get over there and and

3:07

render care and , you know

3:09

, get EMS over there , possibly catch

3:11

the murder suspect or the attempted murder

3:13

suspect and resolve

3:16

the entire situation . However

3:19

, the

3:21

city of Chicago has

3:26

decided Not

3:30

to Renew

3:32

their contract with shot spotter , that's

3:36

mayor Brandon Johnson . He's

3:39

an idiot . We'll get into that later

3:41

, but here . Here

3:44

is the issue . Chicago

3:47

is a city that

3:50

absolutely has

3:52

gun violence . It has gun problems . I

3:54

mean it's known . I think

3:56

, according to the statistics , it's gone down

3:59

a little bit . I'm not really

4:01

too sure about that . It doesn't really make

4:03

that much sense , however . Um

4:05

, they have extreme

4:08

gun violence there Gangs

4:10

, drive-bys , shootouts all

4:13

over the place . And

4:15

again , the shot spotter system

4:17

is a great system . Here's a video

4:19

on how it works .

4:25

A gun is fired somewhere in your

4:27

city . So what happens

4:29

now ? In the past

4:31

, there was a slim chance the shooting would

4:33

be reported to police at all . Even

4:36

when it was , it took precious time and

4:39

there was often confusion regarding the location

4:41

of the shooting and other pertinent information

4:43

. At least that's how things

4:46

were . Shot spotter has

4:48

changed all that . By utilizing

4:50

advanced technology honed over two decades

4:53

, we have automated the process . We

4:55

monitor gunfire activity 24-7

4:58

. So if a gun is fired in

5:00

any area within shot spotter coverage

5:03

, the system detects , locates

5:05

and immediately alerts police of the

5:07

gunshot . So how does it

5:09

work ? It starts with acoustic

5:11

sensors that are placed on buildings or

5:13

street lamps throughout a neighborhood . If

5:16

a gun is fired anywhere in the area

5:18

, multiple sensors detect

5:20

and timestamp the sound . The

5:22

precise location of the gunshot is determined

5:25

based on the amount of time it takes for

5:27

the sound of the gunshot to travel to

5:29

each individual sensor , effectively

5:31

triangulating the sound . The

5:33

exact location of the detected

5:35

gunshot is indicated by a dot

5:38

on a map . Once

5:40

an alert is generated , it is immediately

5:43

sent to our IRC or Incident

5:45

Review Center , where trained acoustic

5:47

experts then analyze each incident

5:49

in mere seconds , determining if

5:51

the sound is gunfire . Shot

5:54

spotter acoustic analysts receive extensive

5:56

training on reviewing and classifying gunfire

5:59

by distinguishing gunshots from

6:01

other impulsive sounds that are not gunshots

6:04

. In addition , they are

6:06

trained to append additional contextual

6:08

information , such as multiple shooter

6:10

alerts or full automatic weapon

6:12

.

6:13

So we kind of get the idea here . It's

6:16

a great system , right . It

6:18

narrows it down , it can tell the difference between

6:21

a firework or

6:23

gunfire and it gives you a precise

6:25

location so that the police can get

6:27

there as quickly as possible and

6:29

render aid or care

6:33

or apply I don't know maybe

6:36

put somebody under arrest . So

6:38

here is the press release by

6:41

the mayor

6:43

of Chicago's office . City

6:46

of Chicago statement on shot

6:48

spotter contract Chicago

6:50

. The city of Chicago will not

6:52

renew its contract with the sound

6:54

thinking that expires February 16th

6:57

2024 , and will decommission

6:59

the use of spot-shotter technology

7:02

on September 22nd 2024

7:04

, which just happens to be after

7:07

the DNC . So

7:10

it expired . They extended it till after

7:13

the DNC , I

7:15

wonder why . The Democratic

7:17

National Convention Committee

7:19

so

7:21

that's weird . We'll

7:24

eliminate it after that . During

7:27

the interim period , law enforcement and other communities

7:29

safe to restakeholders will assess

7:31

tools and programs that effectively

7:33

increase both safety and trust and

7:35

issue recommendations to that effort

7:37

. In advance

7:40

of the decommissioning in September , the

7:42

Chicago Police Department will work

7:44

to revamp operations within

7:46

the strategic decision support

7:48

centers , implement

7:50

new training and further develop

7:53

response models to gun violence

7:55

that ultimately reduce shootings and increase

7:57

accountability . Moving forward , the city

7:59

of Chicago will deploy its resources on

8:02

the most effective strategies and tactics proven

8:04

to accelerate the current downward

8:07

trend in violent crime . Doing

8:09

this work in consultation

8:12

with the community , violence prevention and

8:14

organizations and law enforcement

8:16

provides a pathway to a better , stronger , safer

8:18

Chicago for all . There is no

8:20

legitimate argument you can make that eliminating

8:23

this is going to make Chicago safer

8:25

. It's

8:30

not possible to

8:32

make that distinction

8:35

. Brandon

8:38

Johnson was annihilated

8:40

in a press conference . I mean

8:42

, he was completely destroyed . He

8:45

tried to do the old Democrat Dipsy Doodle

8:47

and not answer the question and the

8:50

press held him accountable and called him out

8:52

. I mean , as they should , it's standard

8:56

journalism .

8:57

But it is a yes or no question . Does it

8:59

end tomorrow ?

9:00

It may be a yes or no question for you . I've

9:02

been clear and so you have

9:04

.

9:06

I understand that you've been clear , we wouldn't

9:09

be asking my question over and over

9:11

. They're trying to ask him

9:13

the contract . This is back in a

9:15

couple of weeks ago or last week . The

9:17

shop spotter contract ends tomorrow . Will

9:20

the shop spotter program be

9:22

done tomorrow , yes

9:24

or no ? And they say , well , it may

9:26

be an easy yes or no question for you , but

9:29

for me , like no , either

9:31

it's ending or it's not . And then he keeps

9:33

trying to say well , to be clear , I'm trying to

9:35

be clear . Well , to be clear

9:37

, and one of the reporters Kudos to him

9:39

goes if you were being clear

9:42

, we wouldn't have to ask you the same question over

9:44

and over again Is

9:46

it going away , yes or no ? Where

9:48

is the city negotiating a short-term

9:51

extension with ?

9:51

shop spotter with sound thinking to the September 22

9:54

deadline . Are you confident that you

9:56

will get there , or could this technology turn off

9:58

when the contract is set to expire tomorrow

10:00

?

10:00

Well , I've been very clear from the very beginning

10:02

around this , and

10:05

I'm still clear that

10:08

, as

10:10

we work to give law enforcement time

10:12

to draw

10:14

down from this operation

10:17

, that it was important for me

10:19

to provide that type of runway

10:22

. Look , I've made a commitment from the

10:24

very beginning , since I've been in office , to bring

10:26

people together so that we

10:28

can come up with a viable

10:30

resolution to matters that

10:32

the people of Chicago care about

10:35

.

10:35

So thank you . So our conversation ongoing for the contract

10:37

is set .

10:38

As I said , I've been very clear from the very beginning of

10:41

what this process entails

10:43

and that's

10:46

what the process entails from what I've articulated

10:48

from the very beginning .

10:49

I'm a little confused . So does spot shutter end

10:51

tomorrow ?

10:54

From the very beginning .

10:55

Yes or no ?

10:56

So I can ask you a question .

10:58

But it's a yes or no question . Does it

11:00

end tomorrow ?

11:02

It may be a yes or no question for you . I

11:04

don't dictate how you ask a question

11:06

, so please don't dictate how I answer

11:08

a question . Ok , I've been clear from the very

11:10

beginning .

11:11

So if you want to provide a runway , then

11:13

why didn't you announce this three months

11:15

ago and provide that runway

11:18

for the past three months , and then it would just

11:20

end tomorrow ?

11:22

Oh , the

11:25

look on his face . He is so like , oh

11:27

crap . That's a really good question .

11:30

Because I wanted to do it this way .

11:31

So just because I wanted to do it this way

11:33

. That's his logical

11:35

explanation . His logical

11:37

is a logical response . Because I

11:40

wanted to do it this way , because I'm better

11:42

than you , because I have power and I can

11:44

do what I want , because I'm a Democrat

11:46

and I'm a minority . So there will never be

11:48

any consequences . To clarify on that last

11:50

question so sound thinking has agreed

11:52

to an extension

11:53

here One

11:56

more time . I've been clear

11:58

. From the very beginning I've

12:01

been clear and so you have .

12:03

Does it end tomorrow ?

12:05

I understand If you've been clear we wouldn't

12:07

be asking any questions over and

12:09

over again , but you're asking things to both

12:11

of themselves . Now I'm trying

12:13

my best to be patient here respectfully

12:16

, but it's becoming quite hostile

12:18

.

12:21

It's becoming hostile . I am the

12:23

victim .

12:24

The next question .

12:26

But it is the victim . He's a victim

12:28

Like

12:30

oh my god , is the press actually

12:32

trying to hold me accountable ? How

12:35

fricking dare they ? How

12:40

dare they try

12:42

to hold me accountable

12:45

? So the

12:48

mayor tried to extend

12:50

it so that it will

12:52

work for

12:55

the DNC . That's what he wanted to extend

12:57

it . A shot spotter

12:59

came back and they said no

13:02

, thank you , we're done . If

13:05

you're not going to keep us , we're just going to walk away

13:07

. If you're going to use this as a political tool , we're

13:09

just going to walk away from that situation . Good

13:13

for shot spotter .

13:14

On Tuesday , mayor Brandon Johnson said he would give

13:16

the technology company a six month

13:18

extension but end the deal after

13:21

the Democratic National Convention .

13:22

Now late today , multiple sources tell

13:24

NBC5 , shot spotter has

13:27

rejected the city's offer with that extension

13:29

. So where does it all stand ? Let's

13:31

go to our political reporter , marianne Ahern . She's

13:33

joining us now with the very latest , marianne

13:35

, allison and Stefan . Busy afternoon . City

13:37

hall has not responded to our repeated

13:40

calls . Today , however , several

13:42

alderman have spoken with those tied

13:44

to sound thinking , the company that now

13:46

owns shot spotter . Those alderman

13:49

are concerned . The company will turn

13:51

off the technology Friday since

13:53

there's no deal in place . Shot

13:57

spotter alerts police departments to

13:59

gunshots fired through acoustic

14:01

sensors . That company took a

14:03

stock hit Tuesday after Mayor Brandon

14:05

Johnson announced he would fulfill

14:07

a campaign promise and give

14:09

the company a six month extension

14:12

but then not renew their deal

14:14

. The mayor's announcement before

14:17

he had a deal signed with the company

14:19

.

14:19

The city has lost all its leverage when

14:22

you make an announcement that you're cancelling

14:24

shot spotter and extending

14:26

it until September without having

14:28

a signed contract .

14:29

Likewise , Alderman Chris Telly-Aferro

14:31

is also concerned .

14:33

It is a great loss for the city of Chicago , particularly

14:36

as we prepare to go into the summer

14:38

months and as we go into a Democratic

14:40

National Convention , already

14:42

with a police department that is undersized

14:45

by at least 2,000

14:47

officers 2,000

14:50

officers because nobody wants

14:52

to do the job in Chicago .

14:56

This policy is one that you know about getting

14:59

rid of the shot spotter . Now imagine getting

15:01

rid of what else they're

15:03

been getting rid of what other policies

15:06

that he's been changing ? There

15:11

is zero , zero

15:15

critical excuse

15:18

or explanation into

15:20

this situation that would justify

15:23

this Zero

15:27

. Now

15:30

the city's Alderman have

15:33

kind of united

15:35

against the mayor , and rightfully so . I

15:37

mean this is bad for the city .

15:41

Even on the campaign trail . Mayor Brandon

15:43

Johnson said that he would remove shot

15:45

spotter from the city's budget

15:47

, and critics say that the service is

15:49

unreliable and leads to unconstitutional

15:52

policing . Authors , including police

15:54

officers , say that it's a reliable resource

15:57

, especially in underserved

15:59

communities where the code of silence

16:01

still maintains 35

16:03

cities have already said this technology is unreliable

16:06

. In September , right after the DNC

16:08

in Chicago shot spotter will end

16:10

. The technology alerts police

16:13

in real time to locations where gunshots

16:15

were fired .

16:16

I feel it is very disrespectful of

16:18

the mayor to make a decision like

16:21

this without even getting the

16:23

input of the community .

16:24

In place since 2018 , shot

16:26

spotter calls Chicagoans about $8

16:29

million annually . City council members

16:31

speaking in Inglewood today outraged

16:33

by the mayor's decision not to renew

16:35

the contract , saying with the department down

16:38

more than 2,000 officers , many

16:40

residents are not calling police

16:42

.

16:42

We're here to tell the mayor that he's wrong , that

16:45

he needs to change his decision and

16:47

listen to the community , black and brown communities

16:49

hear gunshots all the time .

16:52

There are some communities are immune to it , so

16:54

therefore , sometimes people just don't call

16:56

the police . Shot spotter

16:58

, saves lives . Why ? Because the police

17:00

will still respond to that call .

17:02

On the other side , several cities have rejected

17:04

shot spotter because of inaccuracies

17:06

and red flags .

17:08

What the inspector general's report found is

17:10

that the police enter every single situation

17:12

with a shot spotter , report guns blazing

17:14

because they think that there's shots being fired in that

17:16

moment . And in the case of Adam Toledo

17:18

, what occurred is it led to that little

17:21

boy , that 13-year-old boy being shot

17:23

and killed .

17:24

In a statement , the mayor's office sang in part quote

17:26

law enforcement and community safety stakeholders

17:29

will assess tools and programs

17:31

that effectively increase both safety

17:33

and trust and issue recommendations

17:35

to that effect . Former Top

17:37

Cop Gary McCarthy also not

17:39

a fan of the decision .

17:41

I think it's a bad decision as far as

17:43

catching bad guys and preventing somebody

17:45

else from getting shot .

17:46

Now , we must add , in the case of Adam Toledo , a

17:49

gun was found in his possession . Also

17:51

the police board .

17:53

Interesting . A gun was found in

17:56

the guy's

17:58

possession where they showed up for the shot

18:00

spotter call . But they're trying to use

18:02

that against them . But he had a gun

18:04

.

18:06

Strange Ordered an officer

18:08

involved to be disciplined

18:10

. And now the last day for shot spotter is

18:12

September 22nd .

18:21

Ludacris , ludacris , absolutely

18:28

insane

18:30

. Now you may be wondering

18:32

why they

18:34

want to get rid of shot

18:37

spotter . And that's because

18:39

the mayor thinks that it's racist . That's

18:44

right . The computer system

18:46

that picks up

18:49

gunfire and

18:53

reports where the gunfire came

18:55

from is

18:57

racist . It

19:02

marginally affects the

19:04

black and brown community

19:07

. He stated it's

19:10

an indiscriminate program . It

19:14

just reports where shots came from and

19:16

the police go there . It doesn't

19:18

matter what neighborhood it's coming from . It doesn't

19:20

say oh , this is a no shots

19:22

in this neighborhood , we're ignoring that . It monitors

19:24

the whole city . Here's

19:28

kind of just a representation of

19:30

how the shot

19:32

spotter works and you can see just

19:34

how accurate it is . So

19:39

it comes up with these little red dots and it tells

19:41

you the numbers One

19:43

shot was fired here , two shots here , 8

19:45

, 10 , 11 , 22 , whatever . So

19:54

this is the entire city of Chicago , 19

19:57

shots fired here , and

20:15

that's exactly where it came from . Gives

20:24

you the address , how many shots

20:27

were fired , what direction they

20:29

were fired in , if

20:31

they stood still , if they were running

20:34

up or running around . It's

20:36

very accurate . The technology is very

20:38

good , very good . So they could

20:40

turn around and say that you know it's not accurate

20:42

or whatever they're going to say that they're going to

20:45

try to devalue it as much as they can , because

20:47

they want to remove this tool , because , for

20:49

whatever reason , the

20:53

left likes

20:55

violence . They want violence , they want chaos

20:58

, they want , you know , blm

21:01

and rioters to be able to run into the streets

21:03

and destroy things without any fear of repercussion

21:06

, and

21:08

they don't want crime to be stopped because

21:11

it gets in the way of their political

21:13

you know

21:15

, their political wet dreams . It's

21:19

crazy .

21:21

The campaign promise fulfilled , mayor

21:23

Brandon Johnson is ending the city's

21:25

use of the controversial gunfire

21:28

surveillance system known as ShotSpotter

21:30

. The city's contract with the company behind

21:32

ShotSpotter expires on Friday and

21:34

the police will stop using the technology

21:36

. September 22 , about a month

21:39

after the Democratic National Convention , a

21:41

city statement said moving forward

21:43

, chicago will deploy its resources

21:45

on the most effective strategies and tactics

21:48

proven to accelerate the current

21:50

downward trend in violent crime . For

21:52

years , grassroots organizations

21:54

targeted ShotSpotter campaign promise

21:57

.

22:03

I don't understand how anybody can think that this is a good

22:05

idea . So they're saying

22:07

that there has been a decline in

22:12

gun crime in Chicago and

22:14

ShotSpotter was put in in 2018 . I

22:19

wonder if there's any connection with that , because

22:23

prior to that it was the gun

22:25

capital of the

22:28

country . So

22:35

here's a 911, . Well , this isn't a 911

22:37

call . This is dispatch of

22:41

a ShotSpotter call . So

23:08

you got these guys who are monitoring

23:11

where the shots are coming from . They're

23:14

notifying to the police officers . We just had five

23:16

shots at this address . He's moving

23:18

down the sidewalk . This is critical

23:20

intel when

23:23

you're a police officer . When

23:25

I was a police officer , we did not have a ShotSpotter

23:28

system . We would go to the shots fired calls

23:30

all the time , I mean all day

23:32

. Every day . It was like every night shots

23:34

fired over this place because people were calling

23:36

911 . So it happens so often

23:38

. People sometimes just don't call 911

23:42

. But we didn't have intel going in Like

23:45

, hey , this guy is standing on this corner and he's

23:47

moving down the street this way and he

23:49

just fired five more rounds Because

23:51

now you know , okay , if he's moving this way , I

23:53

can come around this side of the building and

23:56

get a line on him and stop

23:58

him from shooting . He's not shooting

24:00

for fun .

24:06

I'm 32 , 10-4 . 1115

24:11

.

24:13

1115 . J0

24:18

, 20-5 .

24:20

Boy Robert 7-3 . 111

24:23

. Sure correct sir 10-4

24:27

. Oh look

24:30

, hold that thing . Three

24:34

for this one is two .

24:37

Edward Paul , 83219 . It

24:39

should be a steady Edward Paul , edward Paul 83219

24:43

. Look at that one on the event X-ray 1011

24:46

.

24:46

Adam 1032 .

24:47

1032 , go ahead , we got some running .

24:51

Indeed , if he's alley , then

24:54

he's got a point which is the line of gas station

24:56

. Thank you .

25:00

Five on the gas station with two , six and Kedzie you

25:02

got a description .

25:08

So they know where this guy is .

25:10

There's someone with a gray sweater , french

25:13

gloves , right by the gas station , going east

25:16

down from the gas station 26 .

25:34

So they find the suspect fleeing from the scene . An

25:36

officer finds him . He's got a rifle in his hands

25:38

. He's letting them know Without shot

25:40

spotter they never would have found this guy , Never

25:43

. He just would have taken off he's

25:46

got

25:48

a rifle .

25:49

He's got a rifle . He's got a rifle

25:51

. He's got a rifle . He's got a rifle . He's

25:54

off the fence .

25:57

He's hopped on the fence . Where is that now ?

26:00

East Valley , East Valley Hopping on the

26:03

fence . He's got a East Valley off the fence .

26:06

Alright East Valley from Kedzie , 1011

26:10

, 10th of the alley , 24

26:13

round , troy Leppin , alright

26:16

Great sweatshirt , orange gloves . The guy

26:19

was seen with a rifle in hand and

26:21

24 , you saw him in the yard .

26:26

Yeah , 10-4 .

26:29

So they chase him down , they

26:31

catch him , they

26:34

recovered the rifle and

26:36

they put him in jail . I

26:39

mean , how amazing is that ? Think

26:42

about that . The

26:49

technology is a phenomenal

26:52

tool , but they're

26:56

just throwing

27:01

it all away . And why ? It doesn't make any sense

27:03

. You're talking $8 million a year

27:06

for the city of Chicago . That's not a

27:08

lot of money .

27:11

What do you make of the decision to

27:13

end this ShotSpotter Potter ?

27:15

This is another horrible decision by the

27:17

administration to cancel ShotSpotter

27:19

In certain communities . Historically

27:22

, they don't call the police and this is a tool

27:24

to help the police to respond quickly

27:27

to 911 calls where shots

27:29

are fired so they can get there in an

27:31

expeditious manner . And now they don't

27:33

have that tool when data has shown

27:35

people are not calling 911

27:38

. So this is something to help communities

27:40

that are still afraid to call 911

27:42

and to aid the police in responding in

27:44

a timely manner .

27:45

Well , and the superintendent had said he was

27:47

supportive of it as well .

27:49

Well , the superintendent said he's a huge advocate

27:51

for ShotSpotter . So the administration is

27:53

going against the same person he just hired

27:55

to police the city of Chicago and

27:57

you're going against his expertise

27:59

as far as being a policeman . So

28:02

I think it's sad to say , but this is another

28:04

political decision and not a common sense decision

28:06

.

28:07

There are those who do turn to some reports

28:09

that say that ShotSpotter might not

28:11

have helped as far as response time

28:13

. I think it's one of those things where we have

28:15

statistics that can prove almost anything to be asked

28:18

for Well , we know .

28:20

Yes , I mean that's a great point by the reporter . I

28:22

kind of like these Chicago reporters . I

28:24

mean if you ask for a statistic to prove

28:27

one side or the other , I mean somebody will find

28:29

a way to articulate it . I

28:31

mean you cannot say

28:33

that police response isn't faster when

28:35

they're responding the second a shot

28:37

is fired .

28:39

Oh , the ShotSpotter works in our community and

28:41

communities that have historically had violence

28:44

and different problems . It has helped

28:47

aid the police in helping solve

28:49

crimes in our community . So we know it works

28:51

. When you ask the people on the ground if

28:53

ShotSpotter works there , tell you yes , it does . But

28:55

when you ask the advocates , who have no

28:57

idea what ShotSpotter does

28:59

, then they're going to say , oh , we just want that money to

29:01

allocate it to something else . That's

29:04

where politics is getting

29:06

involved in policing and

29:08

it shouldn't . We need to use the data

29:10

, we need ShotSpotter . And let me just say

29:12

this for the record If ShotSpotter is

29:14

so bad , cancel it now . Why do you

29:16

want to wait until a month after the DNC

29:18

? So you want to protect

29:20

the people that are coming in for the DNC and

29:23

then cancel it a month after ? So

29:25

if it's good enough for them , why is it not good enough for

29:27

the rest of the people here in the city of Chicago ?

29:29

And the mayor has the right to do this without city council

29:31

approval .

29:32

Well , we're going to see if the city council has an appetite to

29:34

override the mayor and put something in place to keep ShotSpotter

29:36

.

29:38

That's going to be a tough one .

29:39

Well , we're going to see what happens .

29:42

They're not going to override the mayor . They're

29:45

going to be highly unlikely , unfortunately

29:48

. But this is the

29:50

Democrats of the world and

29:53

this is what they want . They

29:55

want , I mean , every policy that

29:59

Democrats institute

30:01

creates more violence . I mean , if you

30:03

look at the worst , most violent cities in the

30:05

country , they're all ran by Democrats . Same

30:07

thing with countries , leftists , leftists

30:11

, insane

30:13

leftists , ruined

30:15

countries . There's not a history

30:17

that's had a positive leftist experience

30:21

. It's never happened . But

30:25

thank you very much for tuning

30:27

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