The Salt Grain is a podcast where politicians stop pandering and start getting real. This podcast is hosted by Holly McNamara, featuring various co-hosts and guests. Our post production is done by Pixela Films. For more content and all social media links, you can find us on thesaltgrain.com. Thank you for joining us while we take you into our world of public service, and be sure as always, to take everything with a grain of salt.