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Sarah Silverman. Let's just get right

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I wanted to know about your

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relationships with your partner's

0:47

moms. Because I think it's

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a really, really nice special relationship,

0:52

and I'm always curious about it. And

0:55

I feel like you'd be a great daughter-in-law,

0:58

whatever, not through marriage, but just through,

1:00

I guess, fucking. Holy shit! And

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love. Also, I just listened

1:05

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1:08

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1:10

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1:15

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Pun intended, I mean. Alright.

1:45

My partner's moms. Well, Rory's...

1:49

I love Rory's parents. And

1:54

they're now my parents. And,

1:56

fuck, we were... Rory, if you're

1:59

out there. We were supposed to call

2:01

your mom yesterday. We

2:06

called her on the way to the airport and

2:08

then we were supposed to call her back on

2:11

the way home. And

2:14

we didn't. Gotta do that.

2:16

Gotta do that. Gotta do that. I

2:19

love his parents. Terry,

2:21

I love you. Big Jim,

2:23

I love you. I'm so

2:26

grateful for them. They're just...

2:30

They love me. They

2:32

love me, I think, like their own kid and

2:34

I love them. And it's

2:37

heartbreaking and hilarious because they

2:40

became really close with my parents. And

2:43

Rory was saying, you

2:46

know, that his dad doesn't have a ton

2:48

of friends, you know, and he

2:51

and my dad really became close.

2:54

And then Rory said he had to tell his

2:56

dad, you know how you

2:58

were excited you had a new friend? Well,

3:01

your new friend wants to die. He'd

3:04

rather die than be friends with you, I

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think he said, jokingly, of course, but...

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3:13

in bed because, you know, he'd chosen

3:15

no more hospital and...

3:18

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3:21

yeah, I love them. And boy,

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even Jimmy Kimmel,

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his parents came

3:29

to my dad's funeral and came

3:32

over after and I

3:35

love them too, you know, and I feel

3:37

so loved by them and, you

3:40

know, you become family. So,

3:45

yeah, it's good. What else?

3:48

Hi, Sarah. This is Omar calling from

3:50

New York. I just wanted to let you know

3:52

that I took my dear friend, Daniel, who's

3:55

also a big fan of this podcast to see

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your show Bedwater as an early...

5:59

things like, oh, you

6:02

know, that's historical for

6:04

me. And when people do this

6:07

or say things like this, it

6:09

really makes me upset and like

6:12

more than I should. And of course

6:14

now I realize it has to do with this

6:17

thing from childhood. It's like,

6:20

you know, it's cool. It's like being a private detective

6:22

and the case is

6:24

your childhood and

6:26

how it's completely informed

6:29

your adulthood and the things that

6:31

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6:34

that, you can now

6:36

consciously shed, you

6:39

know, just be aware of and go, oop,

6:42

I'm doing, you know, right now what

6:44

I'm trying to shed, and I don't know where

6:46

it comes from in my, you

6:48

know, what the root of it is, but I

6:50

interrupt people and

6:52

I fucking hate that about myself.

6:55

I found myself interrupting my sisters.

6:57

I interrupt Rory all the time and I'm

7:00

just starting to catch it now.

7:03

And hopefully I'll

7:06

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7:08

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7:10

something I've tried to be mindful

7:13

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7:16

I fucking hate that. It's a shitty

7:18

trait.

7:19

But yeah,

7:22

so putting this musical

7:24

together the past 12 years and

7:27

seeing

7:28

it come to fruition

7:31

is wildly cathartic. I've also had to,

7:33

you know, in order to be effective, have some

7:36

kind of wall up

7:39

because you have to let

7:41

things go or you have to make things,

7:44

you know, some things have to make sense

7:47

and real life doesn't make

7:49

sense.

7:50

But when you're writing a show, like

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you have to change some real things in order

7:56

for it to make sense. Like my dad's clothing

7:58

store was called Crazy.

7:59

Sophie's factory outlet. Why? He

8:02

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8:05

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8:34

we changed it to Crazy Donnie's factory outlet

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because that makes sense. But the truth was

8:39

something else. That's a tiny example,

8:41

but it's like those things can't matter.

8:44

You know, you have to be able to change

8:46

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8:49

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8:52

so much in there that is just a hundred

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one story that has to track and

8:59

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9:02

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there was something funny in your answer. A

12:56

young woman had called about a

12:58

parent with cancer

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and you gave her advice about finding support

13:02

groups. But what you

13:05

said was, I would search,

13:07

and I think it was the sequence was cancer,

13:10

comma, support group, comma, and

13:12

your area or your city. Do

13:14

you put commas in your internet

13:17

searches? If so, that's

13:19

a really funny act. That's

13:22

not something anyone else

13:24

does that I know of.

13:25

Is that true? Yes,

13:29

I put commas. I put commas

13:31

because I assume

13:33

the computer, it gives

13:35

less work for the computer

13:38

because if you just put

13:40

cancer support groups, yeah,

13:42

I guess you could totally just put like cancer support

13:45

groups, you know, low old mass

13:47

or something. But I feel like the commas

13:49

help the search.

13:52

Do you guys never use commas when

13:54

you search? You don't? I never once

13:56

even thought to personally. I don't know. What?

14:00

I thought you just said

14:03

comma because you were like, it's a way of saying like

14:05

space. I didn't know

14:07

you actually used commas. Wait,

14:10

do commas do nothing in a search?

14:12

Like what if you were writing like, I

14:14

just mean like even just separating thoughts.

14:18

Like

14:20

if you put like movie comma,

14:22

Pedro Pascal comma, Joyce

14:31

DeWitt. I'm

14:33

not good at improvising.

14:37

Well, you know, it's not like they know it's

14:39

like that's one name and that's another name.

14:43

Otherwise it could be, is it Pascal Joyce?

14:46

Well, I will say this, I did

14:49

look it up. It looks like a Google support. This is

14:51

officially from Google. It looks like they say commas

14:53

and slashes are ignored

14:55

as are most other non-alpha numeric

14:57

characters. Unless designated

15:00

as search operators. So I

15:02

think if you were to put a search

15:04

with commas in quotation marks,

15:07

they would take the comma seriously. But

15:09

otherwise it seems like they ignore it. Oh, but

15:11

if you put quotation marks, that's like

15:14

that whole thing must be in the search the

15:16

way it is. Exactly, yeah. So

15:19

Pedro Pascal and Joyce DeWitt would have to be in the same

15:21

sentence in your,

15:23

abutting each other in your example. Yeah.

15:27

What

15:27

about, isn't plus?

15:30

I think plus might, it

15:33

seems like they ignore all alpha numeric characters.

15:37

So you'd just put and instead

15:39

of plus, I guess. Well, as they

15:41

say, I was today years

15:43

old when I learned about

15:46

commas and search bars. Right. But

15:49

if- I guess I'm adorable. Maybe

15:51

someone, you know, who's a, just

15:53

computer scientist or something has a better

15:55

answer than this. I'm using

15:57

the internet to search information about the internet. I

16:00

don't know if that's the greatest method.

16:03

It probably is. Yeah, I guess so. They

16:05

have no reason to lie. That's right,

16:07

the internet never lies. Well,

16:13

I've learned something new today. Thank

16:16

you. What

16:18

else? Hi, Sarah. This

16:21

is a question and kind

16:23

of a mystery that only

16:25

you can solve. So

16:28

back in 2007, I saw you at Massey Hall in

16:31

Toronto. I

16:34

waited after the show at the

16:37

back to get your autograph

16:40

and I tried to get a picture of

16:42

you motor boating me. And

16:44

at the time cameras weren't what they are

16:46

now and none of my friends knew

16:49

how to work the camera. So we had to take several

16:51

takes of you motor boating me.

16:54

And the picture never

16:56

actually came through, but that's

16:58

besides the point.

17:00

Later on, years

17:03

down the road, you made a joke on

17:05

We Are Miracles saying

17:07

that women just wanna be motor

17:09

boated. And I

17:12

think it was about me. No

17:14

one else does. So please, once and

17:16

for all, settle this. Sorry,

17:19

no, I don't remember it, but I'm

17:21

sure it happened. And motor boating

17:24

was a thing before you and after

17:27

you. I don't

17:29

think I carried that memory

17:32

with me into my next special,

17:34

but hey,

17:36

it's all a part of my accumulated

17:39

life experience. So maybe it did, maybe

17:41

it was stuck in my head somewhere, but motor boating

17:44

is already a thing certainly in

17:46

comedy too. The idea of it,

17:48

the notion of

17:50

motor boating,

17:52

you didn't make that up. But

17:55

if you wanna

17:57

believe it, sure. Maybe

18:00

it's true All

18:06

right

18:09

Bye What

18:12

else hi Sarah, I'm

18:14

Jan from Massachusetts, and I'm new to your

18:16

podcast. I love what I've heard

18:18

so far I'm

18:21

calling with an apology. That's too long in

18:23

coming no reason for you to remember,

18:25

but it's been haunting me for about 16 years

18:29

In 2007 I brought some high

18:31

school students to the Webby Awards in New York

18:33

City During a pre-dinner

18:36

hour people were chatting in little clusters,

18:38

and I saw you across the room talking with

18:40

some people I

18:42

Was too nervous to walk up to you, and I didn't

18:44

want to interrupt your conversation. I

18:47

took a picture

18:49

You turned and looked at me and said in a loud

18:51

voice Next time

18:53

you could just ask

18:55

In my memory everyone turned and looked at me

18:57

I was mortified I should

19:00

have known better

19:02

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19:04

years after whenever I'd see you on TV

19:07

I tell people the story is proof

19:09

that you are a mean person Why

19:12

then I started to hear you speaking out

19:14

on causes that matter to me Anti-Trump

19:17

pro-Hillary your views on anti-Semitism

19:20

I realized that I was hating on

19:22

someone I normally would love

19:25

I realized you had been right. I didn't want

19:27

to be siding with intrusive

19:29

paparazzis So I

19:31

want to apologize First

19:33

for not asking before taking that picture

19:36

and second for telling my friends you weren't a nice

19:38

person I guess I want everyone

19:40

to know you were right

19:43

There's a part two

19:47

Yikes this is Jan from Massachusetts

19:49

again. I sent that off without listening and clearly

19:52

it cut me off somewhere I don't know where

19:59

Anyway I apologize

20:02

and can't wait to see you in Boston. Oh,

20:05

she must have come to my show in Boston. Oh,

20:08

man, don't carry that guilt

20:10

with you. First

20:13

of all, I

20:14

could have just not said anything. I

20:17

was

20:19

newer at that point. And it just

20:21

felt like when people just, when I could see

20:23

the corner of my eye, they were like taking a picture.

20:26

It just felt like they were like taking something

20:28

from me or like it just, it felt

20:30

embarrassing or something. I don't know.

20:33

And it made me, you

20:35

know, when someone hurts your feelings and

20:38

it's like a knee jerk thing, you want them to feel

20:40

bad too. And

20:43

it felt kind of in the same chemistry

20:46

as that kind of feeling. But

20:49

now I know it's like, who cares?

20:51

People take a picture. It's what

20:54

does it make a difference to me?

20:56

And

20:58

so I'm sorry. And

21:01

I also accept your apology. It was very

21:03

nice, very thoughtful and

21:05

introspective, but please release

21:08

yourself of any guilt over

21:10

it at all.

21:14

And you know what? Also it like, since

21:17

then I've realized like, I saw

21:19

somebody from a soap opera I used to watch

21:21

growing up and I like covertly took a

21:23

picture to send to my sister. Like

21:26

we all do it and we

21:28

all, as we're doing it, feel like

21:30

it's harmless. And

21:33

to a degree, it is harmless.

21:36

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21:38

my eye because it makes me embarrassed, but

21:41

you couldn't know that. And

21:44

you didn't do

21:46

anything wrong. This is just human

21:48

nature and it's fine. And

21:51

I hope you forgive yourself. And thank

21:53

you for forgiving me and

21:58

for coming to Boston, I assume you...

21:59

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22:02

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25:13

strange relationship with my grandfather.

25:16

Haven't seen him since I

25:19

was a teenager. He lives in Hawaii.

25:21

I grew up in New England. And

25:24

a few years ago, my dad died. And

25:27

then my uncle passed away

25:30

about a year later, which is two

25:32

out of his three kids.

25:33

And I

25:35

had a bit of an estranged relationship with my

25:37

dad as well. And I've

25:41

been wanting to reconnect with my grandfather

25:44

because he's in his late 80s, living

25:47

alone in Hawaii. But every

25:50

time I try to reach out to him, he

25:53

just is so depressed. He's just

25:56

miserable. Doesn't have anyone to

25:58

talk to. just, you

26:01

know, he says that he's existing, not

26:03

living. And I want to,

26:06

you know, have a relationship

26:09

before he goes. And

26:12

it's just tough

26:14

to talk to elderly

26:16

people who are depressed. And I

26:19

wish that I could do something more for him. So

26:22

I was just wondering if you had any advice talking

26:25

to elderly people in

26:27

this kind of state. Thank

26:30

you. Bye. What

26:33

a bummer. Um, well,

26:36

why don't you just try, you know,

26:39

um, why don't you make a little bit of an effort and

26:41

see how it feels, you know,

26:44

FaceTime him. Does he have an iPhone?

26:46

I mean, if he lives alone, I'm guessing

26:48

he, he can

26:51

use a smartphone, but, um,

26:54

you know, if he has an iPhone,

26:56

FaceTime him, he might not have ever

26:59

used FaceTime, but, you know,

27:01

like with my friend Pat, I started

27:03

FaceTiming her and she saw something happening

27:05

on her phone and pressed a button and there I was.

27:09

So, um, there's something about

27:11

FaceTime where you don't have

27:13

to fill in

27:15

every pause because you're on the phone

27:17

and you need to like, let the person know you're

27:20

still there. There's none of that anxiety. You

27:22

can kind of hang out and,

27:24

and maybe you could just talk to him like a person,

27:26

like a human, ask him questions, ask

27:28

him about his childhood,

27:31

ask him about how

27:33

he met his wife or,

27:36

you know, um, ask him, you know,

27:38

he's anyone who's 88, it's

27:40

got some pretty fucking interesting

27:42

stories in them. Ask him

27:45

about

27:45

his childhood, figure out

27:47

what year it was when he was 17. It

27:50

was probably about,

27:52

let's see, he, 30,

27:53

he's

27:55

probably born in 34, uh, or 30. 35. Yeah,

28:01

something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So

28:04

let's see, 45, 52. 1952, he would have been

28:06

like 17,

28:12

you know, or 1947, he

28:16

would be 12.

28:18

Find like the top hits

28:21

from those years and

28:25

play them for him or ask,

28:27

you know, because boy, I did that with

28:29

my dad. He knew every

28:31

word to like most of the songs

28:34

because 12 or sometimes 17,

28:37

I picked 17 for my dad because that was, I

28:39

think his happiest summer

28:42

as a kid. They'll know it, there's

28:45

some, there's, they come alive because

28:47

it's a sense memory.

28:49

It's a, you know, in memory through

28:52

the senses, this, in this term, in

28:54

this virgin hearing is so

28:56

palatable.

28:58

And watching

29:00

my dad like sing along to all those

29:02

songs, it was so fun. You know,

29:05

there's lots of things, but like a

29:07

true interest in them, having a million,

29:10

a ton of questions for him and really being

29:12

interested in the answers

29:15

is a way to, by the way, get closer

29:17

and find the

29:19

best parts of anybody. Interest

29:23

feels like love,

29:25

you know, and is, and is a kind of

29:27

gesture of care. You

29:32

may see a different part

29:34

of him that lights up, that

29:36

fires up in his brain and is, and

29:38

shows on his face.

29:41

Maybe you can be a bright light in his

29:43

life. If he's just depressed

29:46

and existing and there's no way

29:48

to,

29:49

to change

29:51

that, like you're happy, you've

29:54

got to just like have your own deal with your

29:56

own happiness and, you know, but

29:59

if you do get an involved and you see

30:01

something in him and that comes

30:03

through and you connect. And

30:05

then maybe you can Google,

30:08

you know,

30:10

like events

30:12

for the elderly on

30:14

the island he lives on and

30:16

try

30:18

to nudge him towards a little bit

30:21

of a social experience,

30:25

especially with people his own age. They

30:27

have so much to talk about. There's

30:29

always something you can Google,

30:31

you know, so it's like, you know,

30:35

some sort of like events

30:37

or social things

30:39

or things to get involved in or voluntary

30:42

things for the elderly could

30:45

really kind of bring them alive, you know. Maybe

30:48

you have a weekly call with him, you know. With

30:50

my family, we have Zoom

30:52

every Sunday. Wherever you are, you log

30:55

on to that Zoom, which is something

30:57

that we're really trying to keep alive

30:59

since my parents are gone because they were

31:01

kind of the beating heart of that,

31:03

the beating hearts of our

31:05

family Zoom. But we want to

31:08

really keep it going and not

31:11

lose contact because they're gone, you

31:13

know.

31:14

Anyway, good luck.

31:17

What else? Hey, Sarah. Hi,

31:21

I'm from Pennsylvania. I'm

31:24

a 50-something woman, happily

31:27

married. I have four amazing

31:30

kids.

31:31

And I wanted to share with you something

31:33

horrific I did at the grocery store the

31:35

other day. I would just try

31:38

to like to understand it better and you

31:40

seemed like a good place to start. I

31:43

went up to a guy wearing

31:46

a Kyle Rittenhouse t-shirt at

31:48

the grocery store and I went

31:50

up to him. It was two days after

31:52

the Nashville shooting and I

31:54

could not get my head around how this

31:57

guy could wear a gun.

31:59

shirt to

32:01

the grocery store. I wanted

32:03

to yell at him like a mom,

32:07

but I didn't. I waited until I was

32:09

walking out of the store and he was bagging

32:11

his groceries and I said to him quietly,

32:17

but firmly, I hope your

32:19

kids die in the school shooting.

32:21

And I walked out. He

32:25

flipped out, rightly so. That was

32:28

a horrible thing to say, but I just,

32:30

my mind didn't know what else to

32:33

do

32:34

with the fact that this man was wearing a t-shirt

32:36

in the grocery store praising pieces

32:38

of guns. What

32:41

do you think? Uh,

32:47

um, you know, if you said

32:49

like a guy was wearing a gun, like a pro

32:52

gun t-shirt at the grocery store and I

32:54

said this thing, I'd be like, you know, and

32:57

this is what it is. This is what

32:59

it is. But

33:01

seeing that shirt

33:04

triggered you. It hurt you. It cut

33:06

you

33:07

because it was right after a shooting, which what

33:10

are the chances it isn't right after a shooting?

33:12

There are shootings like every other day that

33:14

I get it. I get it. But it's like it

33:16

cut you and the knee jerk reaction

33:18

is making him feel the pain

33:21

you feel. And

33:25

if I just heard you say he was wearing

33:27

a gun t-shirt and I said this thing to him, I

33:30

would go, you know what? I

33:33

like these people are lunatics.

33:37

They're heartbreaking to me. And

33:39

if you can make that adjustment, we're seeing

33:41

that makes you just like heartbroken for

33:43

this fucking idiot who

33:46

is so misinformed

33:48

and has so many of his own rages

33:52

over most certainly

33:54

horrible misinformation where

33:57

he doesn't feel safe. And

34:00

this is his political t-shirt.

34:03

But fuck, like two days after

34:05

Nashville. Yeah,

34:08

I don't know that I would say I hope your

34:11

kids get shot. I would, but

34:13

I could see saying something like.

34:16

I think you would feel differently about

34:18

your t-shirt if your children

34:21

were killed.

34:23

By an AR 15 while at school. You

34:27

know, but I mean, listen.

34:29

Who has the presence of mind? And it's not like

34:31

that's a very, you know, it's

34:34

just, it's, yes, it's maddening. It makes you

34:36

want to punch, but this is the world

34:38

we live in. And I can't

34:41

help but believe that if mental

34:44

health were a priority in our school

34:46

systems and our government in

34:48

the way that this country is run.

34:52

A

34:54

and B if we, if

34:58

the powers that be

35:00

weren't making so much money

35:02

off of our rage that it behooves

35:05

them

35:06

to constantly be putting

35:08

misinformation in front of us.

35:12

That we really are not very

35:14

different. We really aren't, but

35:16

we are of a total different set of

35:19

truths. And we

35:21

have no baseline truth. We share

35:23

no truth. Their truth is

35:26

something that if that was the truth we thought

35:28

was the truth, we would have similar feelings

35:30

to them.

35:31

I have to believe

35:33

we aren't

35:34

that different, but their rage

35:36

is over other stuff.

35:38

And our rage is over other

35:40

stuff. One seems

35:43

a lot more real than the other. And

35:46

I believe that to be the case, but I

35:48

also understand that in their

35:50

view, theirs is the real one

35:52

and ours is the overblown

35:54

one or whatever. I don't know. It's just

35:58

the reality is there is. There's no reality.

36:01

There's no truth that we share.

36:03

So there's communication is just,

36:08

the only thing that can really change things, and

36:10

this sounds corny, is love and

36:13

regulation. Government

36:16

regulation over what these

36:19

non-media outlets that we get

36:21

all our media from who have no, who

36:24

are

36:27

not responsible for what they're putting

36:30

out there because they're technically not

36:32

a news organization. But

36:35

all the news and fake news

36:38

and bullshit information flows

36:41

through their vessel and

36:43

they can't get in trouble for it and so

36:45

there's no way to stop it.

36:49

The algorithms just keep

36:52

feeding you the

36:55

things that create rage

36:57

because they make money

36:59

from it

37:00

and that's our division more than

37:03

our actual selves, I think. But

37:06

I'm sorry that happened. I totally

37:08

get why you said that in that moment.

37:12

Forgive yourself, but yeah, I mean,

37:14

it

37:15

doesn't change anything. It's just more

37:18

rage. Rage begets rage begets

37:20

rage. And until the cycle

37:22

ends with

37:23

enough people, nothing

37:25

will change. There's

37:28

a word salad for you. What else?

37:31

Hi Sarah. I've been a fan of yours since I

37:34

first saw you on Mr. Show protesting

37:36

the blowing up of the moon.

37:38

But my respect for you went to a whole

37:40

new level when I saw you stumping for

37:42

Bernie Sanders. Now the

37:44

question is, what do you see moving forward

37:46

for the movement that he has started?

37:50

And more pointedly, do you feel compelled

37:52

by your own political conscience to

37:54

get involved in a more consistent,

37:57

substantial kind of way?

37:58

Yeah. I like to

38:00

do anything that I can, you know,

38:03

and I think

38:05

Bernie's movement,

38:07

as well as

38:09

his protege

38:11

is like AOC, like

38:14

a lot is getting through that's positive,

38:16

you know. I mean, listen, this $35

38:19

cap on insulin

38:22

would not have happened without Bernie,

38:24

without the people

38:26

behind the

38:31

revolutionary idea that people

38:33

should not have to be rich

38:35

in order to live, in

38:37

order to get health

38:39

care, in order to have

38:42

the life-saving medicine that

38:44

they need.

38:46

It's just like so

38:49

obvious. The answer is always very

38:52

simple,

38:53

but the complicated

38:55

things that get in its way boil

38:58

down to greed, Citizens

39:00

United, Big Pharma, lobbyists

39:03

filling the pockets of politicians, etc.

39:08

But everything really boils down. Until

39:10

Citizens United is overturned, there's

39:14

little we can do about legal

39:16

corruption in our

39:19

political system, our

39:21

government, our government.

39:26

What else? Hi, how's it going? My

39:28

name is Will. Big fan of the podcast,

39:30

been listening pretty much since it came out in 2020,

39:32

I think.

39:34

Helped me get through a lot of early COVID, so thank you.

39:37

I was at The Daily Show the other day when you

39:39

interviewed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and that

39:41

was just incredible. I was so excited

39:44

to see you, and I had no idea he would be the guest.

39:46

So when he came out, I was freaking out.

39:50

Something that I just think is really cool is seeing people

39:53

I admire or am a fan of in person,

39:55

whether it's a Broadway show, a comedy show,

39:57

a basketball

39:58

game, whatever it might be. It's

40:00

so cool to follow someone, see

40:03

them on screen so much,

40:04

and then kind of see them in person and think

40:07

like,

40:08

oh, you're a human, you exist.

40:11

You're not just this person on a screen.

40:13

And seeing you was really

40:15

cool, really alive, that is.

40:18

And I wonder if

40:20

you feel that way sort of being a celebrity

40:23

yourself. Do you ever meet people and think like,

40:25

whoa,

40:26

you're in front of me, this is awesome.

40:29

Or you kind of just used to it now. Did you feel that way

40:31

when you first saw Kareem Abdul Jabbar

40:33

in person? Yeah,

40:35

I just would love to know your thoughts

40:37

on that. And

40:38

also, what he,

40:41

how he complimented you was so awesome

40:43

of him,

40:43

sort of referencing Robin Williams, and

40:46

it honestly just even reminded me of how awesome

40:48

you are. So I just thought that moment was really cool. And

40:51

I hope you enjoyed the week, you did a great job.

40:53

Bye. Thank you. Yeah, I loved it. It

40:56

was really fun. And they

40:59

asked you, they said, who is your dream

41:02

guest?

41:04

Who knows if we can get them, but we

41:06

want to know your dream guest and any other ideas.

41:08

And I said, well, my

41:10

number one dream guest is Kareem

41:13

Abdul Jabbar. And

41:15

then I asked for my

41:16

friend Liz Winstead, who was on the

41:19

first night. She was brilliant, great

41:21

appearance. But they called me and they said,

41:23

we got him. He's going to fly to New York,

41:25

Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And my heart

41:28

already started pounding like, oh my God,

41:31

I didn't want to waste his time. I wanted to make sure

41:33

it was great. I just, he really is one

41:35

of my favorites. And,

41:37

you know, obviously I'm a basketball fan. I love playing

41:40

basketball. I like basketball,

41:42

but it's not

41:44

even his basketball career at all. Like

41:46

obviously, he's

41:47

one of the all time greats.

41:49

And he, you know, was it his

41:52

record had just been broken by LeBron

41:56

James. And so he was kind

41:58

of going around anyway. What

42:01

I love about him is his mind,

42:04

is his writing. He is

42:06

a

42:07

brilliant writer and you should check out

42:09

his sub stack, which you can see

42:11

on his Instagram

42:13

page has the link and he'll like give

42:15

previews of the stuff he's written about. And

42:18

also just that he will write about

42:21

racism, anti-Semitism,

42:23

you know, like big heavy shit, politics.

42:26

But he also like

42:28

had a column in the Hollywood Reporter about

42:30

the Bachelor every week, which I

42:32

love. And also just like the fact that

42:34

it is fascinating just in terms

42:37

of

42:38

human nature and the dynamic

42:40

between people and,

42:43

you know, like you can see a kind of

42:46

deeper thing in terms

42:48

of the human experience when you watch

42:51

the Bachelor should you want to. Or

42:53

that like he wrote

42:55

for the reboot of Veronica Mars.

42:58

Huh? What? He's

43:00

so interesting. He's so complex.

43:03

He's such a beautiful, thoughtful

43:06

thinker. But I

43:08

love the way he writes. I love

43:11

it. And that he also just, you know,

43:13

it's interesting when you read

43:15

about him, there's a great documentary about

43:17

him. You can watch, what was

43:19

it called?

43:20

Minority of One?

43:23

Is

43:23

that something like that? His

43:27

journey of like being

43:30

kind of a very serious guy

43:33

and then kind of discovering

43:37

the option of having

43:39

humor about yourself.