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others to revise, eliminate the Us.

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the Us. Supreme Court and things

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of that nature. All. Boring stuff

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that you probably would have gone to sleep. Over.

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I said, the minute the teacher start talking

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about the constitution our founding fathers, it was

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like you know, sleep time But you know

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as you get older you realize. There.

1:02

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1:04

high school teachers of our time try to

1:06

instill in us. The. Wisdom of the

1:08

Founding Fathers The Genius As a matter

1:11

of fact of the Founding Fathers. And.

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The genius of the founding documents,

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when you have a president like Obama. Who.

3:10

Is frustrated that he can't force

3:12

congress. To. Implement every aspect of what

3:14

he said. Listen to it. listen the clip Want to

3:17

get? You have to hear it. Was

3:19

frustrated people as or that I

3:21

have not been able to force

3:23

Congress to implement. Every

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aspect of. What I said

3:28

in two thousand and Eight Wealth it

3:30

all turns out that of our founders

3:32

design a system. That.

3:34

Makes it more difficult and bring about change

3:36

than I would like. sometimes. See.

3:39

Obama relax because he was talking

3:41

to the subterranean. Matt Lauer

3:43

who is a stooge of General Electric. And

3:46

Matt Lauer had the golden opportunity to stand up

3:48

for freedom. But he didn't because he doesn't even

3:50

know what freedom is is nothing but a. While.

3:53

You know what I'm going say, And I can't use

3:55

such words. On. a national show i'll

3:57

call him a subterranean that's my new catchphrase

4:00

for the vermin on the left, the

4:02

rats, the vermin, the snakes, the cockroaches,

4:04

the lice who hate our

4:07

freedoms, who fear the people, who detest

4:09

every freedom that you have. So

4:12

I now use one catchphrase called subterranean

4:14

because it summarizes my feelings

4:17

in a more genteel manner.

4:19

And of course, as you well know,

4:21

we all must be very genteel since

4:23

we have a sophist for president who

4:26

is extremely genteel and extremely dangerous in

4:28

the fact that he uses his genteel

4:30

ability to literally usurp the U.S.

4:32

Constitution as often as he can. Now

4:35

if I were advising the Republicans, which of course is not

4:37

the case because A, I'm not a Republican and B, they

4:39

don't listen to the show. I don't know who they listen

4:41

to but they're committing Harry Carrey in front of our eyes.

4:43

I would play the Obama sound bite during

4:46

the campaign. I wouldn't stop playing it. When

4:49

he says I've not been able to just play the

4:51

forced Congress piece once again. What's

4:54

frustrating people is that I have not been able to force

4:58

Congress to implement

5:01

every aspect of what I

5:03

said in 2008. Well, stop

5:05

right there. Stop right there. So then if

5:08

it's Romney, they play that and they say, do you

5:10

want a president who wants

5:12

to force Congress to

5:14

follow his will? No. Vote

5:17

for a true Democrat. Vote

5:20

for a man who loves the Constitution. Vote for

5:22

Mitt Romney. They won't run it though because

5:25

if they run it, you'll probably get

5:27

the impression that you're not living in a republic

5:30

or a democracy, which they don't want you to

5:32

have. So let's move on

5:34

to the callers on many other topics. There

5:39

is news out there, just that it's not

5:41

that exciting because it's just

5:43

more about the corruption of the Obama administration.

5:45

Little things like that. Another

5:48

$500 million loan went up in smoke for another

5:50

fake electric car company given to

5:52

them by the slush fund called the DOE, run by

5:54

that former college teacher

5:56

who won a Nobel Prize in physics.

5:58

Therefore, he's a genius. They

6:00

used them just as a stooge, a front man. College

6:04

vending machine sells morning after pill. Should

6:06

U.S. arm Syrian opposition? John

6:09

Dumb McCain says that

6:11

it's time for the U.S. should consider sending

6:13

weapons to rebels. Moron. Moron

6:16

McCain does it again. Do

6:18

you agree with McCain? Do you think

6:20

the U.S. should get involved now in Syria? Why

6:23

don't you have Saudi Arabia get involved in Syria?

6:25

Answer because they're as despotic as Syria. Why

6:28

don't you have the European Union do something other

6:30

than watch child porn in Brussels? Answer

6:32

because they like to sit and

6:34

watch child porn in Brussels. Do

6:36

you think the U.S. should

6:38

consider sending weapons to so-called rebels in Syria?

6:40

Now let me make another prediction for you.

6:43

Since I'm the only one in the media who saw what was coming

6:45

in the Arab crescent in Egypt,

6:48

etc., and I told you what was happening

6:50

long before anybody else, that's

6:52

right, mark my words, old Mike Savage, old

6:55

Doc Savage sort before anybody else. I told you

6:57

what was going to emerge. I told you that

6:59

the murderous, freedom-hating, women-hating,

7:02

U.S. hating Islamists would win

7:04

in Egypt. And I told you that would happen

7:06

even though Hillary Clinton was going about with her

7:09

fake smile giving the big lie about the Arab

7:11

Spring. It was blowing up in their faces. Now

7:13

we see what they have wrought there. Now

7:17

as bad as Assad is, and he's pretty

7:19

bad, do you actually

7:22

think that the so-called opposition is going

7:24

to be any more democratically inclined than

7:26

Assad? I will tell you they won't

7:28

be. I will tell you

7:30

right now that the Syrian opposition so-called

7:33

will be as corrupt and as

7:35

anti-U.S. as are the Libyan

7:40

so-called rebels who we supported like

7:42

fools. They will be just as

7:44

corrupt and just as Islamists as

7:47

the Islamists who have taken over

7:49

Egypt. So am I arguing that

7:51

I'm in favor of the bloodshed? Of Course not, but

7:53

you'll say I said that, which doesn't matter to me

7:55

because you always distort what I say. My enemies always

7:58

distort what I say. What

8:00

I say is what I say And what I say

8:02

is when I write, when I write is what I

8:04

say. What I say is when I write some Not

8:06

afraid of what my opposition says about me. What matters

8:08

is that you look at my statements for what they

8:11

are in my books. And

8:13

in my articles and on my radio

8:15

show so I may ask you made

8:17

a big question: should the U S

8:19

consider selling weapons to rebels as John.

8:22

Ah the The Claude thinks we

8:25

should mccain. I mean, this guy

8:27

as stupid as eat He sounds. Lawmakers,

8:30

Suggests Us consider arming Syrian

8:32

rebels as graphic videos emerge.

8:36

John dummy Mccain and other lawmakers call Tuesday

8:38

for the Us to consider arming the Syrian

8:40

opposition. It as new videos emerge for pointing

8:42

show the body aftermath of the weekend some

8:44

aspirin the Syrian city of Homs. The

8:47

bloodletting has gotta stop Said Mccain The

8:49

shame. The. Obama administration's

8:51

up push back on the idea, stressing

8:54

instead the options of humanitarian assistance and

8:56

increased international pressure. I actually agree with

8:58

Obama. We. Don't need another war. I'm

9:00

sorry. I agree with them. I. Mean

9:02

even a stopped clock is right. Twice

9:04

a day. We

9:06

don't think more on said the series. The

9:08

answer said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland. Well.

9:11

Maybe they learned their lessons in the in

9:13

Egypt there at Augusta mean Libya. They.

9:16

Sent weapon F the weapon after weapon and was have

9:18

gotten them. Remember Russia and

9:20

China block the Arab League proposal calling for

9:22

Syrian President Assad the Sept House. So if

9:24

we would ascend arms to Syria would be

9:26

going to war with Russia and China. We

9:28

have the A A A de facto. A

9:31

de facto war with Russia and China.

9:33

Something's wrong with this picture. There's.

9:37

Very bad people are dying. I

9:39

mean, Assad's a murderous brutal dictator.

9:41

We. Know that, but who do things waiting? In

9:44

the wings in these despotic nations.

9:47

What? Do you think they're going to be

9:49

democratically oriented people? Never. It's not

9:51

gonna happen. It's. Not going to happen. They.

9:54

Don't have the basis to even understand what a

9:56

free a free people are. This isn't the for

9:58

the problem that you don't understand. Many

10:00

of you are brainwashed children of the liberal

10:02

establishment. and you think that all people are

10:04

equal around the world in terms of educational

10:06

value in terms of education and values. And

10:08

you think that if they have freedom, they're

10:10

going to use it for the betterment of

10:12

the majority of the people. You don't understand

10:15

that. they don't understand that. You understand it.

10:17

They have no such ideas. In. There,

10:19

it's not even in the of Dna. They don't know

10:21

what freedom is. Are all

10:23

it means to them as grabbing as much

10:25

power as they can as fast as a

10:27

Canada and asserting and against their enemies. And

10:29

so when you combine that with the religious

10:31

fanaticism in the Middle East, what you have

10:34

is exactly what Hillary Clinton, Obama, George Soros,

10:36

Brzezinski, and Caught Us have fostered in Egypt

10:38

or the Way to Libya Analysis now that

10:40

calling for it in Syria No, I disagree.

10:43

Not. One color on this I handle on what's wrong

10:45

with the people in an interest in anything. Did.

10:48

They bring. I think the American people are jaded. I

10:50

said you wiped out. I. Believe

10:52

that Newt Gingrich has destroyed America.

10:55

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10:57

for the destruction of the America Mind.

11:00

I. Personally believe that Fatso has destroyed

11:02

the republican party and republic itself. I'll

11:04

be right back. Seventy

11:08

Seven on the

11:11

Mass. Middle. East

11:13

on the brink, North Korea on

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12:49

or thing about Syria. We've moved from.

12:52

The emerging dictatorship in America to

12:55

the over dictatorship of Syria. And

12:58

we see the slaughter of innocents or

13:00

shall I say opponents to of the

13:02

Assad regime. And. We

13:04

all oppose violence have that kind.

13:07

However, We're. Now in a

13:09

situation where. The. Idiot John

13:11

Mccain who encouraged arming the Libyan rebels

13:13

and we could see who they are

13:16

today. Ah, The Libyan rebels

13:18

as you well know a worse than the Qaddafi

13:20

was. Thus far, and they've yet

13:22

to assume maximum power now, John Mccain

13:24

is saying we should send weapons. To.

13:27

Sit to the Syrian opposition I say idiotic

13:29

and I agree with the Obama. State department

13:31

says that that's not going to help things

13:34

and ah, we should use a humanitarian and

13:36

diplomatic maneuvers in the interim and I happen

13:38

to agree with them as as as terrible

13:40

as the slaughter is would only be worse

13:43

if we set more weapons and mora. Are.

13:45

Such. Incendiary items into

13:47

Syria. At this time we have a

13:49

call from Texas. Go ahead please. You're

13:51

on a savage nation. Michael.

13:55

Oh. Yeah, Jeff Smith, I really

13:57

appreciate what you're saying. That.

13:59

like of us against John McCain's

14:02

advocating sending arms

14:05

to the rebels in Syria. We

14:07

need to get out of that area and

14:09

let those folks take care of themselves. It's

14:12

a real shame that

14:15

such atrocities occur in other nations,

14:17

but we just can't be everywhere

14:19

all the time. No, haven't

14:22

we learned from Iraq and now Iran

14:24

where we have had no

14:26

effect whatsoever in Iran? Sorry,

14:29

Afghanistan rather. Haven't we learned that

14:32

foreign intervention doesn't always work to

14:34

the advantage of the American people?

14:36

Well, we should have learned, but I tell

14:39

you Michael, perpetual

14:41

war is

14:43

one way leaving slaves

14:46

their own people. Why

14:48

is McCain such a war hawk

14:51

when his instincts

14:53

are always wrong here? Look

14:55

what he did in Libya. He was wrong about

14:57

arming the Libyan rebels, so hasn't he learned from

14:59

that? Obviously not. No,

15:02

they haven't learned. There's

15:04

obviously some agenda that

15:06

we're not aware of that they're pursuing. Well,

15:08

I'm going to tell you, here's my fear

15:10

about what the agenda is for a guy

15:12

like McCain. He fronts from any military,

15:16

what shall I say, contractors, and

15:20

war is good for them. That's the unfortunate

15:23

ugliness of what I think is going on here. Well,

15:26

that's true. That's that military-industrial

15:28

complex is what Dwight Eisenhower

15:31

warned the country about. That's

15:33

right. Beware the military-industrial complex,

15:35

which I've changed to the

15:38

government media complex. But

15:40

here we have Lindsey Graham suggesting arming the Syrian

15:44

opposition. Joe Lieberman

15:46

has done the same. Why don't they just put on a uniform and

15:48

go over there and fight with the rebels? I

15:51

wish they would. Why wouldn't McCain and

15:53

Graham and Lieberman just get on uniforms

15:55

and become generals in the Syrian

15:58

opposition army? Well,

16:01

they know that the generals of

16:03

our military and admirals of our

16:05

military are not allowed to use

16:07

their military expertise to

16:10

win wars, and they don't want to

16:12

be there. They would rather

16:14

be controlling those generals and admirals

16:16

and blaming those generals and admirals.

16:19

Well, there's an interesting article that I

16:21

posted on michaelfabish.com about a lieutenant colonel

16:23

who's been through seven or eight tours

16:26

in the war zones, and he says it's a complete lie

16:28

coming out of Afghanistan. We're losing

16:31

at every turn. Wow.

16:34

I'm looking- No, it's horrible. This is Lieutenant

16:36

Colonel, combat Lieutenant Colonel,

16:38

who says the men are

16:41

dying to get out of Afghanistan.

16:44

We've had no impact whatsoever. The

16:46

Afghan police are corrupt. The Afghan

16:48

government is corrupt, and that the

16:50

administration and the politicians are lying

16:52

about the so-called successes in Afghanistan.

16:56

McCain should surely know that. Well,

16:58

he should. I don't know

17:00

why he won't believe it. We've

17:03

got a congressman, Lieutenant Colonel Allen

17:06

West. He's not my congressman, Ted

17:08

Poe's mind, but Allen West is-

17:12

I'm certainly hopeful that he gets reelected,

17:15

but the people in Republicans

17:17

in Florida don't want him. And

17:19

they're- Well, no, I had Allen West, Congressman

17:21

at West, on my show last Friday, and

17:23

he told the sad truth that the Republicans

17:26

have gerrymandered his district to an extent that

17:28

it's now a democratically Democrat majority district. They

17:30

want him out of business because he is

17:32

a true conservative and a combat veteran. That's

17:35

what the Republican Party has become. It's

17:37

basically Democrat light. I thank you

17:39

for the call. Any other

17:41

callers, guys, on the Syrian

17:44

question of whether we should be funding the

17:46

opposition? Edward, welcome to the Savage Nation. Yes,

17:49

sir. How are you today? Let

17:52

me tell you about my background. Maybe you will understand

17:54

where I'm coming from. Can you hear me, sir? Yes,

17:57

please. Okay. I used to

17:59

be a negotiator. in the Red

18:01

Cross in the Middle East and the

18:03

first and last lesson

18:05

I've learned that you cannot negotiate

18:08

or help Islamic

18:10

movement. It's very, very device

18:13

and they are planning on their

18:16

own plan. They will

18:18

fool you, take your money,

18:20

secure their help and then they

18:22

will turn around and stab

18:24

you in the back. Wait, wait, let me

18:27

see if I follow you. I think I do. You're

18:29

saying that the opposition is

18:31

not unified and fundamentally they're

18:34

not worthy of support? I'm saying

18:36

we should not fund anybody who is

18:38

Islamic and I'm sorry if I offend

18:40

anybody because the Islamic laws

18:43

and Islamic beliefs are

18:45

against our beliefs. So what

18:47

they do is they will use us as

18:49

a key to enter the door

18:52

and they went enter when they were entered

18:54

in the door. They will close the door

18:56

behind them on us. So

18:58

this is what happens in Iraq. Interesting.

19:00

Well that's what happened to us in

19:02

Iraq, that's what's happening to us in

19:05

Afghanistan and now McCain wants

19:07

us to do it in Syria again? They will

19:10

do it in Syria. Now I tell you what, if

19:13

the United States Reagan time listened

19:15

to the voice of reason to the Christians

19:18

in Lebanon, we could have had

19:20

a base in Lebanon that would

19:22

have been a big threat to

19:24

everybody. But we

19:27

lost that base because... Yes, I remember

19:29

that horror of what happened in Beirut.

19:31

It was a horror, just

19:34

a horror. Thank

19:36

you for the call. I'll be right back here on the Savage

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20:53

the Syrian so-called rebels. Apparently

20:55

that fool hasn't learned his mistakes yet in

20:58

arming Libyan rebels. What have we

21:00

wrought? Are the Libyan rebels

21:02

our friends? Are you crazy? They're

21:05

going to be far worse than

21:08

Qaddafi. Just as the

21:11

Muslim fanatics who have taken over Egypt are

21:13

going to be far worse for us than

21:15

was Mubarak. Just as

21:17

Ahmadinejad and that band of psychotics

21:19

are far worse than

21:22

was the leader

21:24

of Iran at that time, who they

21:26

drove out, a pro-Western

21:28

man. They drove him

21:30

out on a rail. They ushered in

21:33

worldwide Islamic terror around the globe. That was

21:35

Jimmy Carter. So now we have it happening

21:37

all over again under Carter II.

21:40

That would be Obama. That's the

21:42

mini Carter. At the best he's a mini Carter, although

21:44

I don't even think he's a mini Carter. At least

21:46

Carter served in the U.S. submarine fleet. Obama

21:50

was a street organizer while we could say

21:52

Jimmy Carter was at least a patriot and

21:54

served in the U.S. military, which is a

21:56

beautiful thing. Have

21:59

we not learned our lesson? Should the

22:01

US arm Syrian rebels? I

22:04

say absolutely not. If anyone's going to arm them,

22:07

it should be the European Union. Where's

22:09

the European Union on this? Why don't they do anything

22:11

along those lines? What is this? The

22:14

United States is the world's policeman? We haven't

22:16

learned from our disaster in Iraq, our disaster

22:18

in Afghanistan. Now we're going to get involved

22:20

in Syria? This is total insanity. Virginia

22:23

Beach, Toby, do you agree or disagree? Should we be

22:25

in Syria? Yes or no? Oh,

22:28

no. Oh, no. Definitely not. I

22:30

think they need to handle their own issues. We fought for

22:32

our freedom and they should fight for theirs. But

22:35

we fought for our freedom and Obama says that

22:37

it's not free enough for him because he can't

22:39

impose his will on the Congress. How do you

22:41

like that statement today? Oh, see, I don't like

22:43

that. I don't like all the freedoms that they're

22:45

taking away from us either over the last 10

22:47

years. I don't either. But

22:50

thank you, Toby. Should US arms Syria in opposition?

22:53

John McCain has learned nothing from his mistakes

22:56

and he says that we should send weapons to

22:58

the rebels. And

23:01

many of you, of course, know this is another disaster.

23:03

See, there's something you should know

23:06

about government, all governments, good, bad,

23:08

and indifferent. They're dysfunctional.

23:10

In fact, the more democratic a government,

23:12

the more dysfunctional it is. Let me repeat

23:14

that. I don't know if you understand the theorem.

23:18

The more democratic a

23:20

government is, the more dysfunctional it

23:22

is. The more

23:24

authoritarian a government, the

23:27

less dysfunctional it is because it gets everything

23:29

done that it wants immediately

23:32

or else people wind up in internment camps or

23:34

in death camps. So I

23:36

think a dysfunctional government is a sign of

23:39

a healthy democracy, which is the lie that

23:41

Obama's putting out. Oh, Congress is the problem.

23:43

They're standing in the way of its progress.

23:45

You don't understand the big lie, do you?

23:48

They're supposed to stand in the way of its

23:50

progress if it's, let's say, against the will of

23:52

the people or unconstitutional or too expensive, whatever. You're

23:55

supposed to stand in a dictator's way. That's

23:59

how it was set up. And the only countries

24:01

where governments are extremely functional are

24:03

the dictatorships. North Korea,

24:05

very functional government. Extremely

24:08

functional. They starve the people to

24:10

death and they live like kings and

24:12

princes at the top. Very

24:14

functional government. But

24:16

we have a dysfunctional government. Israel's a very dysfunctional government.

24:18

I don't know if you know that. The

24:21

Knesset is a marketplace of

24:23

ideas. They argue all the time.

24:26

They're at odds with each other over

24:28

everything because Israel's a true democracy. So

24:30

it has a dysfunctional government in

24:33

that regard. That's a healthy side. Saudi

24:36

Arabia is a very, very smoothly

24:38

efficient government because it's a

24:40

dictatorship. So listen to what I

24:42

just said to you. I mean, look,

24:44

what can I say to you? Wisdom

24:46

comes from various sources. And

24:49

what you just heard is quite wise. Take

24:51

it for what it is. New

24:53

York, WOR, Kathy, go ahead, please. You're on

24:55

the Savage Nation. Dr. Savage,

24:57

I was listening to President Obama

24:59

Friday after the release of the

25:02

jobs number, the so-called 8.3

25:04

percent, the decrease in

25:07

jobs. And he was speaking on a

25:09

number of topics. And he

25:11

got to the topic of green energy,

25:13

which always has to be squeezed into

25:15

anything he says. And

25:17

I just bristled. And I heard him

25:20

say, and I've heard him say

25:22

this before, he said that he was going

25:24

to double down on

25:26

green energy. And it made

25:28

me so- Well, you've got to remember something.

25:31

The green energy rubric is a slush fund

25:34

for Democrat donors at the highest level.

25:38

You understand that? That when you put a billion

25:40

dollars into a fake company, some of it flows

25:42

back to your campaign? Well, they're

25:44

not donors. I think they're more like betters.

25:48

I disagree with you. How do we know how

25:50

much of the Solange money wound up back in

25:52

the hands of Democrats? We'll

25:56

never know, but it's not good. It's not good

25:58

for- No, it is not good. No, it's

26:00

a slush fund for the Democrat machine. That's

26:02

what green energy is. It's sort

26:05

of this PC area where I'm for

26:07

green energy. Oh, who's against green energy?

26:10

Well, anybody who knows that green energy

26:12

is fraudulent is against green energy. We'd

26:15

all like cars that run on the sun. I'd

26:17

love to have a car that runs on sunlight. It doesn't exist. Sacramento,

26:21

Mary Ann, on the Syrian question. Go

26:23

ahead, please. Yes, Dr. Savage, I want

26:26

to compliment you. You're the

26:28

only one taking a correct interpretation of

26:30

what's occurring in Syria. I

26:32

have extended family there and also

26:34

in Beirut. The media,

26:37

unfortunately, is not getting out that what is

26:39

really occurring is, as you are articulating,

26:42

a clash between the Saudi

26:45

faction, including the Kurds, and

26:48

the Christians who are aligned with the Alawites.

26:51

Let me see if I can follow this. Who

26:54

comprises the majority of the

26:56

Syrian opposition? It's

26:59

Kurds currently and those

27:01

who are Sunni and

27:05

some Turks because Syria is comprised of

27:08

many different people since the changing of

27:10

the border. And

27:12

Homs is traditionally a city that

27:14

is Sunni. Okay,

27:16

so is this a Sunni-Shiite battle

27:19

again? It's

27:21

a Sunni, the Christians,

27:25

the Syrian Jews and

27:28

the Assyrians, A-S-S-Y Assyrians,

27:31

are aligned together with the Alawites,

27:33

which of course is what Assad

27:36

is. And

27:38

the opposition is being fueled by

27:40

the Saudis. It's Saudi

27:42

money due to the fact that... I

27:44

see. So Assad, as dictatorial

27:46

as he is, has the support of

27:48

the Christians and the Jewish-Syrian community? Yes.

27:52

Amazing. Amazing. I

27:54

really, truly didn't know that. But

27:56

I do know this, that if we haven't learned

27:58

by our mistakes and I... Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya,

28:01

when are we going to learn? Well, there's

28:03

a large Assyrian, as you know,

28:05

Assyria, A-S-S-Y-R. No, no, I know

28:07

I have an Assyrian friend

28:09

who explained to me who the Assyrian people

28:11

are. I actually have someone of that background

28:14

in San Francisco, so it's not a stranger

28:16

to me. Right. Yeah,

28:18

well, that's basically what's going on. So am I

28:20

the only one who got this right instinctually? Is

28:23

that it? Yes, because you

28:25

understand the historical imperative relative to the breakup

28:27

of the Ottoman Empire, and that's basically

28:29

what you're still dealing with that sort

28:31

of factionalism. But why is it that

28:33

McCain would be so dumb that he

28:35

would say send weapons to the so-called

28:38

opposition? Well, he's an

28:40

idiot, and he doesn't understand the

28:43

sophistication of what the opposition comprises.

28:46

And does he also work for the defense

28:48

contractors who would benefit from sending weapons to

28:50

Syria, do you think? Oh, absolutely.

28:53

Absolutely. I think that McCain

28:55

is long known to be part of the

28:57

military industrial complex and fundamentally is

28:59

a salesman for these corporations.

29:01

The first al-Qaeda enclave was

29:04

in Arizona. That's

29:08

why you had the whistleblower out of the Phoenix

29:10

office of the FBI. So

29:13

Arizona- Oh, you mean right

29:15

under McCain's nose? Yes. And

29:17

this is all- Wow, what a disaster he's been.

29:19

Ever since he set off that rocket on the

29:21

aircraft carrier, he's been a disaster

29:23

for America. He's been continuously setting off rockets

29:26

in Congress. This guy is a rolling danger to

29:28

the country. Well, I grew up in Coronado, so

29:30

we all know about McCain. So maybe- Wow,

29:33

he is so misunderstood by the American people.

29:35

I mean, he's got our sympathy because he

29:37

suffered for so many years at the torture

29:40

of the hands of the Vietnamese in the

29:43

Hanoi Hilton, but that doesn't justify what he's

29:45

been doing ever since. No, my mother worked

29:47

for Admiral Stockdale, so everybody in

29:49

Coronado knows McCain's storyline. Wow.

29:53

Well, at the end of

29:55

the conversation between us, Mary Ann, the

29:58

bottom line is you say don't- arm

30:01

the so-called Syrian opposition.

30:04

They're a false opposition. It's an

30:06

inter- false opposition. Correct. So

30:09

what you're not arguing that Assad is a benevolent

30:12

leader are you? Absolutely not. Absolutely

30:15

not but what we don't want is

30:17

another we don't want any more Christians

30:19

and affiliated people who were at least

30:21

sophisticated and educated massacred

30:23

and that's exactly what's going on.

30:25

Aha. So Assad is

30:29

I see what you're saying so the opposition

30:31

is going to be what more or less

30:33

the Islamists again the uneducated Islamists? Assad speaks

30:36

fluent French he's an ophthalmologist

30:39

he's highly educated. Well that doesn't mean

30:41

anything. Mengele was a doctor but I

30:43

mean so that he has a professional

30:45

background doesn't distinguish him in any way

30:47

necessarily but what I'm asking you are

30:49

the opponents to Assad fundamentally

30:51

going to fall in line with the Islamist

30:54

crescent that is emerging in the Middle East. Yes.

30:57

Well that's that's a very important

31:00

point because I intuitively sense that.

31:02

I intuitively sense that the so-called opposition in

31:04

Syria who Anderson Cooper is crying for again

31:07

on the on a television set because they

31:09

look so good in tight dungarees and they

31:11

all have cell phones so therefore they all

31:13

must be modern and good. Again he's feeding

31:15

into the the propaganda line of the emerging

31:17

Islamist factions

31:20

in the Middle East as the moron did in Egypt. Okay

31:23

I see it. Well I guess it

31:25

takes a little a little

31:27

time and patience to really understand what's going

31:30

on and not be a knee-jerk liberal who

31:32

says well he's a bad guy and they're

31:34

the good guy. I'll

31:36

be right back. Savage. Home

31:38

of borders. Language. Culture. Boss.

31:41

Savage. Nation. And

31:44

the band played on as the good ship

31:47

America has struck the iceberg with the captain

31:49

at the helm saying that the crew doesn't listen to

31:52

him and he has no ability to tell the crew

31:54

what to do while the ship is going down. We

31:57

have a bishop in Harrisburg PA who

31:59

says that Hitler and Mussolini would

32:01

love our public school system. Here

32:03

finally is a voice coming out of the

32:05

church that gives all free men hope.

32:08

Listen to clip 20. In

32:10

the totalitarian government they

32:12

would love our system. This is what Hitler

32:14

and Mussolini and all them tried to establish.

32:17

A monolith. So all

32:19

the children will be educated in

32:21

one set of beliefs and one way of

32:23

doing things. A

32:26

Pennsylvania bishop says Hitler and Mussolini would

32:28

love our public school system. Bishop

32:31

Joseph McFadden, I don't know if you

32:33

listen to the Savage Nation but you're

32:35

a hero to all of us for

32:38

daring to break with the church and stand up to the

32:41

incredible dictatorship that

32:44

we see emerging under our right under our

32:46

eyes right under our noses. But

32:48

the issue today that we're talking about right now

32:50

on the Savage Nation is really not the educational

32:52

system nor the corruption

32:54

of the administration which is astonishing.

32:58

Astonishing. A daily astonishment. We

33:01

are talking instead about Syria. Syria

33:04

if you look at the map is adjacent

33:06

to Iraq. We

33:08

have not learned from the debacle in Iraq

33:10

and now John the Shane McCain says we

33:12

should be arming the rebels. International

33:16

pressure grows. Bombing of rebels

33:18

resumes by Assad and the

33:20

US now is told by McCain and

33:22

others leave him in the warmonger. McCain

33:25

the warmonger and

33:28

a few others that we should be

33:30

sending at least weapons to Syria. They

33:32

haven't learned what disasters they

33:34

have fostered from Libya

33:36

to Egypt let alone

33:38

the disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan but now

33:40

they're saying now let's get involved in Syria.

33:43

So I ask the American people listen to

33:45

the Savage Nation what you

33:47

think? That's what I'm asking

33:49

you. What do you think? Do you agree

33:51

with McCain that we should be sending arms

33:54

to the Syrian people? I don't

33:56

think so and I know so. Some

33:58

disagree. Bala and I... Idaho, go ahead, you're on

34:00

the Savage Nation. Thank you, Mr. Savage. I

34:03

just must say, look to our history, look

34:05

to our revolutionary war. Who helped us during

34:08

that? The French, the French actually supplied us

34:10

weapons because the British were bringing in higher

34:12

guns, but they call them the Huns, another

34:14

racist term for the Germans. Well, wait, let's,

34:16

okay, that's a good point, but did the

34:18

French do it out of altruism or because

34:21

they wanted a part of the natural resources

34:23

of the United States? I think

34:25

out of both. We have interest

34:27

there as well for preserving peace and

34:29

stability around Israel. What do we actually

34:31

need in Syria? We

34:33

need to have a nice stable area

34:36

in Syria. We need to have it stable. Wait, we

34:38

need a stable Syria. Could it get more stable than

34:40

what we have with Assad? It

34:42

needs to be more stable. I mean, Assad's not at war with anybody,

34:44

is he? Are you sure that

34:47

the opposition will not go to

34:49

war with its neighbors, including Israel

34:51

immediately if it attains power? We've

34:53

gone to war with Mexico. We went to war with

34:56

France during our revolutions. Wait, now you're changing the topic

34:58

again. We're talking about Syria. I think we need to

35:00

focus on one nation. So

35:02

let's go back. Did we win anything from going

35:04

into Iraq? Did we

35:07

win anything? Absolutely not, no. Okay.

35:09

Have we won anything by meddling in

35:12

Afghanistan? Absolutely not.

35:15

So we're pragmatists. Have

35:17

we been right by backing the so-called

35:19

Libyan rebels and killing Qaddafi? Yeah,

35:22

because we didn't put boots on the ground. We just gave

35:24

them weapons. We helped them. But do

35:27

you know what has emerged in Libya? They're

35:29

pulling the toenails out of diplomats

35:31

from other countries. They're

35:34

monsters. These are Islamic monsters.

35:36

I'm not saying that at all, but I'm saying

35:38

we do very terrible things here. What about Egypt?

35:40

We had Mubarak, who was our best friend for

35:43

almost 40 years, and Hillary Clinton and

35:45

Obama and Soros overthrew Mubarak and told us that

35:47

it would be a new dawn in Egypt. You

35:49

know what's going on in Egypt, don't you? Yeah,

35:52

it's a birthing democracy. We

35:55

had a revolutionary war ourselves. No, it's

35:57

not a birthing democracy, a birthing Islamic

35:59

dictatorship. what world are you living in i'm

36:01

where you said where you saying the muslim brotherhood is

36:03

a good thing on absolutely not

36:06

but freedom of the good that's where the

36:08

web women that's who is taking

36:10

control of the jet all

36:12

control of the trip no fair not

36:14

all control your your sensationalizing and i

36:16

respect you like you don't even know

36:19

like when i'm not sensationalizing it the

36:21

muslim brotherhood is becoming the dominant political

36:23

force in egypt uh... so

36:26

do that do they are they going to go to

36:28

war with israel are they going to keep their problems

36:30

on the israel aside they actually have said that they

36:32

will they actually have said yes that's one

36:35

of the chief things that they want to do uh...

36:37

as by the way have

36:40

the up opponents to a side in syria

36:42

they have said that the minute they have

36:44

power they're going to receive the good the

36:46

goal on heights setting off world

36:48

war three i i think you've got to

36:50

see the chest game here not the checkers game will

36:53

live outside is a puppet for iran we absolutely

36:55

know that this ought to be being propped up

36:57

by iran so anything well i don't know that

36:59

we know that i would we read that the

37:01

side of the popular by ran looks to me

37:03

like the opposition uh... our pockets

37:05

of iran i highly

37:07

doubt that i know that i thought

37:09

is in bed with iran wholeheartedly letters

37:12

a ball that we disagree on on

37:14

on who's in bed with who what

37:16

business do we have in syria right now after

37:18

all the mistakes this country has made ever

37:21

since vietnam you know

37:23

i believe that we have a uh... uh...

37:25

obligation as a free country who was helped

37:27

at one point against the biggest most largely

37:30

you're talking in a vacuum no bala we

37:33

no longer this rich great wealthy powerful

37:35

nation that can go around the world

37:38

helping uh... at other countries were

37:40

a basket case ourselves we're wholly owned

37:42

by china and other countries where we

37:44

supposed to get the money from i've

37:47

i've told don't count it out there brother i

37:49

know you're a real american i know you are

37:51

here from your heart and the initial all the

37:54

time don't get me wrong i hear you're coming

37:56

from but you know we have something greater to

37:58

export everyone and that is free and yes,

38:00

they need to fight for it, but we need to

38:02

help them with real weapons. Well, I understand the idealism

38:04

that you are expressing, but in this case I think

38:06

you're on the wrong side of the equation. It's

38:10

very similar to Mubarak. As dictatorial

38:12

as he was, as oppressive as

38:14

his regime was, he was a

38:16

better friend to America than are

38:18

the emerging Islamic fascists in Egypt.

38:20

And I would say that that

38:22

quotient holds in Syria as

38:24

well. As horrendous as

38:26

Assad is, I believe that what

38:28

is waiting in the wings will be much worse,

38:30

especially for our security interests.

38:34

Moreover you're ignoring the fact that China and Russia have

38:36

vetoed any attempts to intervene in Syria. You know that

38:38

this would put us at odds with China and Russia,

38:40

which is not a good thing right now. No,

38:43

I hear you and I respect you. Alright, well let's

38:45

go away friends. You know, we don't have to disagree

38:47

with each other and hate each other as a result.

38:49

We're not Democrats after all. We're decent

38:52

Americans and conservatives. We can disagree and go away

38:54

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38:56

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38:59

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