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Today we will be discussing several urban
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legends and, ironically,
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tragic events from the happiest place
1:40
on Earth,
1:41
Disneyland. From
1:43
Walt Disney never leaving the park even
1:46
after death, to several
1:48
deaths happening on grad
1:50
night,
1:51
with so much Disneyland lore available
1:54
over the internet, this will
1:56
be the first part of a multi-part
1:58
series featured. on
2:00
the scarecast files. We
2:05
will kick this episode off with a spill
2:07
on the ghost of Walt Disney. Now
2:11
if you're familiar with Disney history, you'll
2:14
likely know that the apartment situated
2:17
above the firehouse on the main street in
2:19
Disneyland. This apartment
2:22
which came into existence during the park's
2:24
construction that began on July
2:27
16, 1954 and opened on July 17, 1955 was a personal retreat for Walt Disney
2:29
himself. Although
2:39
it was relatively small, encompassing
2:43
about 500 square feet, it
2:46
proved to be a convenient hideaway for Walt
2:49
during the late nights and early mornings
2:51
when he closely supervised the realization
2:54
of his Disney vision. Walt's
2:57
apartment was designed to be discreet,
3:00
making it nearly impossible for anyone
3:03
to discern whether he was inside or
3:05
not. A preference
3:07
he held dear. Even
3:10
the spacious patio overlooking Town
3:12
Square was discreet from
3:14
ground level, although it offered
3:16
a remarkable view of the park. However,
3:21
Walt did establish a subtle
3:23
way to communicate his presence.
3:28
When he was in the park, he would
3:30
illuminate a lamp in the upstairs
3:32
window of the fare station. Employees
3:36
would see it and word even got out
3:38
about it to park guests, signifying
3:41
a high likelihood of encountering Walt
3:44
strolling through the park, graciously
3:47
offering his autograph to those
3:49
whom he encountered. Few
3:52
years after Disneyland's initial opening
3:55
and as the park expanded to include New
3:57
Orleans Square and the groundbreaking
4:00
Pirates of Caribbean attraction. Walt
4:03
decided to construct a larger apartment
4:06
above the entrance to Pirates of the
4:08
Caribbean to accommodate larger
4:10
amounts of guests for the luxurious
4:12
get-togethers he would host. Unfortunately,
4:16
Walt passed away
4:18
before this apartment's completion and
4:21
no member of the Disney family ever occupied
4:24
it. For many years,
4:27
this space was accessible to the public
4:29
as an art gallery. In 2007,
4:33
it was transformed into the Dream Suite, an
4:36
opulent apartment reserved for special
4:38
occasions in VIP guests.
4:42
In 2017, it was reimagined
4:44
as 21 Royals, an
4:47
exclusive dining experience catering
4:49
to a maximum of 12 guests per
4:52
night. Going
4:54
back to Walt's original apartment, if
4:57
you had a chance to glimpse Walt Disney's apartment,
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you might have observed that
5:03
the lamp inside it remains illuminated
5:06
to this day. This
5:08
lamp serves as an endearing tribute
5:11
to Walt himself.
5:14
However,
5:16
the story behind this glowing lamp
5:18
has its own legend. Now
5:26
as the tale goes, shortly
5:30
after Walt Disney's passing on December 15,
5:32
1966, a maintenance worker
5:37
would enter the apartment for
5:39
cleaning and was startled
5:42
to find that the lamp was shining brightly.
5:46
She promptly switched it off and exited the
5:49
apartment, only to
5:51
be astounded when she looked back up
5:54
to see the light still
5:56
burning in the window. Acting
6:00
on instinct, she returned inside.
6:04
She turned off the lamp once more and remained
6:07
in the apartment this time. But
6:10
to her astonishment, the
6:13
lamp inexplicably reignited
6:16
right before her eyes.
6:20
Some versions of the story even suggest
6:22
that the lamp was unplugged, yet
6:25
it somehow continued to glow. According
6:29
to some accounts, she heard a mysterious voice
6:32
uttering the words, Don't
6:34
forget, I am still here.
6:39
Today the lamp remains
6:41
illuminated as a symbolic representation
6:44
of Walt Disney's presence within
6:46
his beloved Disneyland. However,
6:51
it's worth noting that this apartment
6:53
has gained a reputation for paranormal
6:56
activity among Disneyland's
6:58
cast members, who have reported
7:00
hearing footsteps and knocking,
7:03
especially during the night. While
7:07
some versions of the legend claim that
7:09
the lamp has remained lit since
7:12
that supernatural incident with the cast
7:14
worker, this is
7:17
not entirely accurate. Devoted
7:20
park goers and Disney historians
7:23
have pointed out that the current lamp, as
7:25
well as the one preceding it, is a
7:27
replacement and not the
7:30
original lamp personally attended to
7:32
by Walt Disney himself. As
7:35
recently as September 2022,
7:39
Disneyland took a significant step
7:41
by replacing the iconic lamp in
7:44
Walt Disney's former Main Street apartment
7:47
with one that closely resembles the
7:49
original fixture. The
7:51
new lamp boasts a prominent glass
7:53
dome, featuring an intricate
7:56
floral pattern, making it quite
7:58
the eye-catching addition. However,
8:03
it's important to note that Walt Disney's legendary
8:05
apartment is typically off limits
8:07
to the general public, and
8:10
the lamp can only be observed from
8:12
ground level. On
8:14
rare occasions, Disneyland
8:16
Park offers guided tours that
8:19
provide a unique opportunity to explore
8:21
the upper apartment, creating
8:24
the potential for a face-to-face encounter
8:26
with the ghostly presence of
8:28
Walt Disney himself. According
8:32
to an article featured on SFGate.com,
8:36
Anna Beese, a ghost hunter
8:38
who possesses the ability to perceive
8:41
and communicate with spirits, have
8:44
claimed to have witnessed Walt Disney's apparition
8:46
by the lamp in his apartment window.
8:49
In addition, Anna has reported
8:52
seeing Walt in another location within
8:55
close proximity to his apartment, leaning
8:58
on a lamp post in front of the great
9:00
moments with Mr. Lincoln attraction. Given
9:04
the proximity of these two locations,
9:07
it's not entirely surprising. Moreover,
9:11
several park visitors have also
9:13
attested to spotting Walt Disney's
9:16
ghostly figure around the park. One
9:19
guest who was granted access at
9:21
the regular hours by a cast member
9:24
recounted an encounter with the man standing
9:27
outside the castle. This
9:29
man, positioned on the drawbridge, noticed
9:32
the guest, flashed a warm
9:34
smile, and waved. The
9:37
guest claimed to have instantly recognized
9:39
this man as Walt Disney
9:42
himself, and he continued
9:44
to wave for approximately twenty seconds
9:47
before mysteriously vanishing into
9:50
thin air. I
9:53
had one listener of my podcast reach out
9:55
about an interesting experience
9:58
that she had in the final station
10:00
below Walt Disney's apartment which
10:03
I will feature in a reel on my Instagram
10:05
and TikTok page at the scarecast
10:08
so if you don't follow me already make
10:11
sure you all head over to follow and
10:13
look out for the reel where I'll be discussing
10:15
this interesting experience.
10:19
Since we're audio based I can only describe
10:22
to you what happened in the video. My
10:24
listener Adina got a tour
10:27
of the fire station. On
10:29
her video she captured
10:31
a glimpse of an orb while
10:33
walking towards the fire pole. In
10:37
another video she also captures a second
10:39
orb along with a shadow moving
10:42
from left to right. To
10:45
see the actual videos make sure
10:47
you follow my page at the scarecast
10:50
on Instagram and TikTok so that
10:52
you can see them when they're posted. I will
10:55
also link the rails into the description of this
10:57
episode when they come available.
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A commonly circulated misconception
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insists that Disneyland
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is a place where no lies
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have been lost and where extreme
13:33
measures are taken to prevent
13:35
any fatalities on its premises.
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However,
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this notion is far
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from accurate.
13:44
The truth reveals
13:46
that a number of individuals have,
13:48
in fact, met their demise within
13:50
the park's boundaries.
13:53
The forthcoming accounts highlight
13:55
one of the earliest instances of
13:57
such tragic events occurring.
14:00
within the confines of the renowned happiest
14:03
place on Earth. In 1964,
14:09
Disneyland introduced a new tradition
14:11
called Grad Night. This
14:13
event exclusively for high school graduates
14:17
involved an all-night stay at Disneyland
14:19
and holds a special place in
14:21
the hearts of many Southern California
14:24
residents. However,
14:27
the idea of unsupervised teenagers
14:29
spending the night at a sprawling
14:32
theme park does raise some concerns.
14:35
Surprisingly though, the number
14:38
of incidents and issues have been relatively
14:40
low, but there have been several
14:43
unfortunate fatalities associated
14:46
with Grad Night. Our
14:49
story transports us back to the fateful
14:51
night of 1966 when a 19-year-old Northridge,
14:56
California resident named
14:58
Thomas Guy Cleveland embarked
15:01
on a daring adventure. That
15:04
was sneaking into one of Disneyland's
15:07
Grad Night events
15:08
at the cost of free 99.
15:13
It was a late Friday night at around 9.30 pm
15:17
when Thomas Cleveland would decide to scale
15:19
two chain-link fences, one
15:22
six feet high and the other 16
15:25
feet, landing him right
15:28
on top of the Monroe track right
15:30
around the area where their employee parking lot
15:32
was located. This
15:35
track, resembling the circular
15:38
railway around Disneyland,
15:41
served as Thomas's main route into
15:43
the festivities taking place
15:46
at Disneyland. noticed
16:00
Thomas on the tracks. Officer
16:03
Williams would urgently shout a warning,
16:06
instructing Thomas to take cover as
16:09
an incoming Montero raced towards
16:11
him at a breast 25 miles per hour
16:15
as it was headed to Tomorrowland. Thomas
16:18
would come down into a narrow fiberglass
16:21
canopy suspended beneath
16:23
the track as he heeded
16:25
Williams warning. What
16:28
a fortune this
16:30
clearance proved woefully inadequate.
16:34
In a harrowing account, the
16:37
four-car train collided with
16:39
Thomas, pulling him beneath
16:41
the carriage, the relentless
16:44
momentum of the train causing
16:46
all four cars to pass right over him.
16:48
The collision
16:51
propelled Thomas' lifeless body
16:54
some 30 to 40 feet along the
16:56
track. By the time the Montero
16:59
screeched to an abrupt halt, Thomas'
17:02
body was ripped to pieces.
17:06
The Montero's operator, Dallas
17:09
Baker, informed the police that
17:11
he had not observed the young man on
17:13
the track before the incident.
17:16
In fact, he remained oblivious
17:18
to any unusual circumstances
17:21
until a sudden jolt and the subsequent
17:24
loss of power
17:25
brought the train to an abrupt halt.
17:28
Passengers occupying the train's frontmost
17:31
compartment known
17:32
as the nose cone mentioned
17:35
sensing a slight jolt during the
17:37
incident. However,
17:40
they remained unaware of the actual
17:42
incident that transpired. Subsequently,
17:48
the train found itself immobilized
17:50
for approximately 10 minutes before
17:53
a work car arrived to tow it to the next
17:55
station, where the passengers
17:58
could safely disembark. Officer
18:02
Williams would recount the grim
18:04
task of cleaning the young man's
18:06
remains from the underside
18:09
of the Monorail, which he
18:11
did so by hosing it off the track.
18:15
Tragically, this
18:17
incident marked a second and
18:19
ultimate fatality to transpire
18:22
during Walt Disney's lifetime in
18:24
a period when he would watch over the park's
18:27
operations. Among
18:30
Disneyland's former staff, whispers
18:33
circulated about eerie occurrences
18:36
during the late mint and then
18:38
vanish into thin air the
18:41
next. It
18:45
would only be a year later on August 21, 1967, another
18:47
tragic death would occur. Back
18:55
when Tomorrowland was just unveiled,
18:58
Disneyland introduced a new attraction
19:01
called The People Mover. This
19:03
attraction operated from 1967 to 1995, and its primary
19:06
function was to transport park
19:12
visitors through various sections
19:15
of Tomorrowland. It
19:17
was ingeniously designed to
19:19
allow passengers to embark and
19:22
disembark while the ride was still
19:24
in motion, which meant that
19:27
it moved at a very slow
19:29
pace. Each car
19:31
operated autonomously, eliminating
19:34
the need for a driver or a
19:36
conductor, serving as
19:38
a self-sufficient public transportation
19:41
system
19:42
for park guests.
19:45
Gradually, it didn't take long
19:47
for the allure of bending the rules
19:50
to captivate visitors. Just
19:53
immediately, possibly enticed
19:55
by the slow-moving trains, it
19:58
became a popular challenge for young teenagers
20:01
to exit their cars and move
20:03
to another car within the dark
20:05
tunnels where they remained hidden from
20:08
view. In executing
20:10
this maneuver was quite straightforward
20:12
at the time, as there were no
20:14
barriers whatsoever between the main
20:16
body of the people movers car and
20:19
their roofs. It was
20:21
a simple act to perch on the back
20:23
of a seat and swing one's
20:25
legs over to the side. In
20:28
just a month after its debut, a
20:31
16-year-old resident from Hawthorne, California,
20:35
Ricky Lee Yama, found
20:37
himself taking on the challenge of hopping
20:39
cars on the people mover. He
20:42
decided to exit his people mover car
20:44
in an attempt to join his friends in
20:47
the adjacent one, and
20:49
Ricky would embark on the risky maneuver
20:52
as the ride passed through a dimly lit
20:54
tunnel within the Circle Vision 360
20:57
building, and tragically,
20:59
Ricky lost his
21:01
balance, leading to a perilous
21:04
fall into the tracks below.
21:08
As fate would have it, the
21:10
ensuing people mover car approached
21:13
him, and the formidable grip
21:15
of the Goodyear tires that comprised
21:17
the people movers propulsion system
21:20
continued to propel
21:23
the car forward, and
21:26
the consequence was grievous. Ricky's
21:29
head and upper body
21:31
bore the crushing weight of the unyielding
21:34
people mover car, leading
21:37
to a tragic outcome.
21:39
Ricky would be crushed before
21:42
the ride would be forced to stop by
21:44
a ride operator who finally
21:46
noticed. A
21:49
security guard would describe that when he responded
21:51
to the incident, he looked
21:53
under one of the people mover cars and
21:56
saw Ricky's head split
21:58
into two. Three
22:01
sections of the people mover train had to
22:03
be taken apart to even remove
22:06
Ricky's torn body from the track.
22:10
Just like Ricky's unfortunate incident,
22:12
18-year-old Hrado Gonzalez
22:16
faced a similar fate shortly after
22:18
his graduation from a San Diego
22:20
high school. The
22:22
date was June 7, 1980, and yet another grad night. When
22:29
Hrado decided to exit the ride
22:32
and attempt to move from one car to
22:34
another, as the ride approached
22:36
another attraction below, known
22:39
as the Super Speed Tunnel, Gonzalez
22:42
lost his footing and fell off
22:44
the people mover, plummeting
22:47
into the Super Speed Tunnel track below.
22:50
And tragically, Hrado
22:53
was struck by the next oncoming
22:55
car. Eyewitnesses
22:59
recounted that he miraculously emerged
23:02
from beneath the car. Although
23:04
severely injured and in a battered state,
23:08
he was still alive. But
23:11
regrettably, he couldn't
23:13
move, and he suffered another
23:16
crushing blow from the subsequent
23:18
car, being dragged
23:20
for a considerable distance down
23:23
the track. Some sources
23:25
claim it was at least a hundred feet, while
23:28
others suggest that it might have been several hundred
23:30
feet before the ride finally
23:33
came to a halt.
23:36
But by the time the ride ended, there
23:39
was very little left of him.
23:43
I guess the eerie question arises. Were
23:47
the odds of two eerily similar
23:49
fatalities occurring on
23:51
the same ride in the happiest
23:55
place on Earth? Interestingly,
23:58
there have been reports of paranormal
24:01
activity associated with the ride throughout
24:04
its history, as described
24:06
by park guests. When
24:09
the ride was operational, some
24:11
visitors, particularly blonde females,
24:14
claimed to have experienced hair-pulling
24:17
sensations as they entered
24:19
the tunnel. Prior
24:22
to its removal from the park, Disneyland
24:24
made a commitment to discontinue the operation
24:27
of the People Mover ride during
24:30
Grad Nights. This
24:33
decision was influenced by a combination
24:35
of factors, with of course
24:38
the deaths and also
24:40
the persistent attempts by teenagers
24:43
to smuggle drugs and alcohol into
24:45
the ride, as well as a
24:47
reputation that the ride gained as
24:50
a place for romantic encounters during
24:53
the Grad Night festivities. Throughout
24:56
today, the space once occupied
24:59
by the People Mover ride is
25:01
now home to the Buzz Lightyear
25:04
Astro Blasters. And
25:13
our voyage does not end here, for
25:15
there are numerous other stories and fables
25:18
that have permeated the vast expanse
25:21
of the internet, each weaving its own
25:23
spellbinding narrative. It
25:26
is with great anticipation that
25:28
we announce this endeavor as the inaugural
25:30
installment of a multi-part
25:33
series that will grace the
25:36
scarecast files. And
25:38
as we delve deeper into the labyrinth corridors
25:41
of Disneyland's urban legends,
25:44
we invite you to join us in this captivating
25:47
Odyssey, where the line between reality
25:50
and fantasy blurs and the enduring
25:52
charm of Disneyland continues
25:54
to cast its enchanting
25:57
spell. Have you ever
25:59
encountered anything weird or strange
26:01
at Disneyland.
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