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What's Up, everybody, Welcome to the Season with Peter

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Schreger. We are now less than ten days away

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from the NFL Draft and it

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is time to just rip through mock

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draft scenarios. This is why you come to

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this podcast during this time of year, and I

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like to think I've got connections with some of the best guys

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in media who do this for a

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living. One of them is Field Yates.

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Field is younger than me. Field

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has experience with both the Patriots

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and the Kansas City Chiefs working in

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their front offices, and has been a rocket

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ship of a star over at ESPN.

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He's also a really nice guy and he loves

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the draft like I do. We're

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going to bring Field on in just a second. But here's the

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exercise I'm going to do with him. We're going

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to do a mock draft. But the two of us have

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not spoken, we have not looked at each other's mock drafts,

1:09

and we are going to alternate one pick

1:11

to another, one pick to another, and we're just

1:13

gonna let it fly and see where the chips

1:16

fall. My mock draft

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and if you want to listen to it, I put it up

1:20

on the podcast in the most recent

1:22

pod. It just went live on NFL dot

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com. Again, a lot of feedback

1:27

and a lot of it being like what the hell, which

1:29

is exactly what we want to do. I

1:32

think this is going to be a really interesting NFL

1:34

draft with a lot of teams of passionate

1:36

fan bases up top. When you're talking about Chicago,

1:39

you're talking about Washington, you're talking about New England, you're talking

1:42

about the Giants, you're talking about the

1:44

Jets. All in the top ten, you're

1:46

talking about fan bases that are vocal

1:49

but also are very passionate about their

1:51

teams. And I can't wait to see how it all shakes

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out. But with no further ado, let's get

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my guy field Yates on here and let's do something mocking,

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all right. Our guest is a friend of mine

2:02

and a guy I have long respected, who I am so happy

2:05

to see being used in so

2:07

many great ways over at ESPN

2:09

and this year especially very

2:12

prominent in their draft coverage. You're

2:14

listening to his podcast and you're seeing his stuff

2:17

with Mel Kuiper. I have to think that's the ultimate honor

2:19

for a guy the same generation

2:21

as me who grew up just wanting to be

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mel Kuiper and do this for a living. Field

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Yates from ESPN Field, what's up

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man.

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Not too much. It's great to be on with you. And

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I was thinking about this before the recording

2:34

here of I really believe,

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and I'm sure there are a lot of other people in the media

2:38

that fall into this category, but I know, like unequivocally

2:41

that you are one of these people. And I consider myself

2:43

one of these people as well. That if

2:45

I were pushing papers in an office, or

2:47

if I were a doctor, if I were a teacher, I

2:50

have zero doubt in my mind that

2:52

right now, while at my other job,

2:54

I would be thinking about mock drafts. That's the beauty

2:56

of the draft. It's something that I've loved long

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before I knew I was going to be in

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this line of work. And I know you feel the same way, which

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is why I would consider these next

3:05

let's call it two weeks some of the most special

3:07

weeks of the entire year on the football calendar.

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I mean, I remember being in the college fraternity

3:12

house Draft day telling

3:15

everyone on a Saturday morning in April, one of those

3:17

last weekends of the spring

3:19

when everyone's out there throwing the frisbee

3:21

and and and having a beer. And I

3:23

was like locked in a dungeon watching the NFL

3:26

Draft Day three to see where

3:28

you know, Leland McElroy was gonna go, you

3:31

know, from technic, that's the kind of stuff. And

3:34

I had on Jedfish, who I'm

3:36

sure you've come across recently,

3:40

had Jedfish on the podcast and he was

3:43

college fraternity brothers and maybe roommates

3:46

with Howie Roseman roommates. He

3:48

tells the story of how on draft

3:50

day, how we put on

3:52

a suit in college, put

3:55

on a suit a tie and

3:57

had folders spread across like

3:59

a desk in their fraternity house

4:01

room. And was like the same way,

4:03

I think it's a bug. I don't think there's any shame

4:05

in it. And Peter

4:07

King wrote his farewell column and he said, the one thing

4:09

he won't miss is doing that April

4:12

mock draft. It's agonizing, it's

4:14

painful. You find yourself on

4:16

the phone with the same people ten times, and then you put it

4:18

out there into the earth. It makes a little ripple

4:20

and then for the hours and hours

4:23

you labor over that mock draft. The

4:25

return on investment is just not there.

4:27

No one is going back and being like, well, this guy

4:29

got one more pick than that guy, and yet

4:31

we put all of our hard work and effort into

4:33

it and field. I'm looking online.

4:36

You haven't done one since April third,

4:38

but I have to mention you're in the same

4:40

boat I am. Where it's like I just wasted an

4:42

entire weekend on the phone with gms and head coaches.

4:45

But it's worth it. You put it out, you feel confident you

4:47

have.

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To, And I would say this, let me rank what I believe

4:50

like the priorities of mock drafts. Number one, and

4:52

this is like way above the

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rest entertainment. Okay, there for entertainment

4:57

purposes, mostly, not only, but mostly

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I find them so fun. The day after

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this draft is over, I will be reading

5:05

I hope I might have to make my own twenty twenty.

5:08

Yeah, but I actually think that might be a Matt Miller

5:10

or Jordan Reid assignment. Eskay. I will

5:12

be devouring it. I know

5:14

you and I share an affinity for a lot of sports

5:17

besides football. I will read every

5:19

MBA mock draft and now and

5:21

when the mock when the draft actually takes place,

5:24

I will read. I will do my own NBA

5:26

draft body lottery simulation so

5:28

that I can make up my own order and then read

5:30

mock drafts based off of what the order

5:33

that I determined totally randomly

5:35

and arbitrarily with a tool. So I think

5:37

entertainment is certainly the driving force behind

5:39

these. It's really hard, though, when

5:42

you take a lot of pride and put a lot of

5:44

effort into this process, like I know you do. I

5:46

actually have not, by design read your

5:48

mock We talked to ye

5:51

not reading it, but it

5:53

being accurate. Is it's a really typical thing

5:56

to do. There is such like the butterfly

5:58

effect of just one thing that goes just a little

6:00

bit unconventionally early at the top of the board

6:03

can totally change everything. So

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I would say number two behind entertainment

6:08

purposes is like my goal is, I'm

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less focused on direct hits. Those are great,

6:12

they would be awesome. I'd love to go thirty two

6:14

for thirty two, But my real hope is

6:16

that of the final thirty two players

6:19

that are in my first round mock draft, a

6:21

significant number of them actually go in

6:23

the first round.

6:24

I think that's solid.

6:25

Yeah, that's sort of the goal. That would be a nice you

6:27

know it, Mail has set a couple different times. If

6:29

you can be in the twenties with your thirty

6:32

two picks, then you should feel pretty good about that. Yeah.

6:34

And I also come at it a different way, and there's a bit of

6:37

arrogance to it, which I was humboled last

6:39

year. Like I come at it and say,

6:41

I don't no one gives a shit

6:44

what I would do if I were the Titans.

6:47

So I try to come at it and say, here's

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what I'm hearing. Everyone who's

6:52

listening or consuming my content, at least

6:54

you'd think that there is a agreement

6:57

that you know, if you're taking my content and you know where

6:59

my angle is. I talk to everybody as and

7:01

I hope that they're not be asking me completely

7:03

And here's what I'm hearing, and this

7:05

is where I could see things going. So

7:08

if I do a crazy trade at the

7:10

top, this isn't if I was Quasia

7:13

dofo mensa. Here's what I would do with the it's

7:15

I think the Vikings might be willing to give X,

7:17

Y and Z up to get up to this spot, and I think

7:20

that team would be receptive of that.

7:22

That arrogance went

7:24

a long way last year before the mock

7:26

draft and I was talking, I'm like, look, you can listen

7:28

to all the other mock drafts. They don't matter.

7:30

Mine's the one that matters. And then I think I got

7:33

two of thirty two direct

7:35

hits. I might have been three of thirty two, like

7:38

I got Bryce Young to the Panthers, and

7:40

then I just got I got the rest wrong. So this

7:42

year, I'm gonna come at it a little differently. I'm

7:45

gonna come with a little bit more humility and say

7:47

here's how I think it might go, and

7:49

we'll see from there. What's your approach, what's

7:51

your approach to it?

7:52

Yeah, I say my approach is like that. I you

7:55

know, I'm hoping that I roll snake guys on every pick,

7:57

but you know, I will say this, and this

7:59

job can be humbling in so many ways, and

8:01

taking on a full time draft analyst role this year

8:03

has been so eye opening. It and it kind of harkens

8:06

back my you know, brief but time,

8:09

my brief time, but still my time within the NFL

8:11

working out in scouting departments. And it's

8:13

so different because the role is

8:16

you're grading thirty two teams worth

8:18

of players, right, Whereas when you're

8:20

working for the same so you're working for the Jaguars

8:22

or the Seahawks, you're grading those players for

8:24

how your team goes about its business and how you see

8:27

players in your system and stuff like that. But

8:29

I would say that more than anything, and maybe it

8:31

sounds like a cop out, and I know there are a lot

8:34

of people within the league listening to this podcast,

8:36

so they can let me know if this is a cop out. But more

8:38

than anything, I appreciate the people that really put

8:40

a lot of time and effort into their mock drafts,

8:42

because if we accept that the

8:45

goal is to not go thirty two for thirty two,

8:47

I love the fact, like my when I

8:49

eventually read your mock draft after we're done, I'm

8:51

going to read it and I'm going to say to myself, well,

8:54

if Peter is hearing this, or if Peter is suggesting

8:56

that, or if Peter is, you know, forecasting

8:58

this, then if I mean something, and if

9:00

it's way different than something I have

9:03

previously heard or thought, then I need to account

9:05

for that. Or or if it's something that aligns

9:07

with stuff that I've heard or thoughts

9:09

or mocked already, then it makes me feel

9:12

that much more ebolded in my stance on those

9:14

players so efforts and I

9:16

can't this sounds like it. I feel like I'm having

9:18

a pep talk with like you know, a bunch of girls, like

9:20

you got any of your best to your kids. But

9:22

yeah, I really do think you can tell the people that put a lot

9:24

of time and effort into this process, even

9:27

if the reality is that the day after

9:29

round one is over, the

9:31

mox that we spent you know, the vast

9:34

majority of the past three or four months doing

9:36

become worth owaight and paper. Right now, the picks

9:38

are set, let's worry about what those players mean

9:40

with their respective teams, all.

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Right, real quick before we get to our exercise that you

9:44

and I are going to do. Yeah,

9:47

I'm gonna be on NFL networks coverage

9:49

of the draft all three days. I'm doing good Morning

9:51

Football. Then I'm gonna also be on the

9:53

draft coverage at night. I got a big press release

9:55

from ESPN with a bunch of names, and it's

9:57

ESPN and it's ABC, but

10:00

I saw your face prominently on it. Which

10:02

network will you be on and who will you be on

10:05

with?

10:05

All Right? So there's Friday obviously

10:07

Rounds one Thursday or then Rounds two and three

10:09

on Friday, I'll be on the ABC broadcast. You

10:12

know, it is truly and I'm not trying to be self down.

10:14

I get it, but like the Showstoppers, the

10:17

show stoppers there are, you know, Rhys Davis,

10:19

the ACE host with Kirk

10:21

Kirbstreet, you know, the face of college football, Desmond

10:24

Howard, college football legend. And then Nick

10:26

Saban, you know, just making his ESPN

10:28

slash ABC debut in this

10:30

full time capacity. So then Laura

10:32

Rutledge, one of my favorite people at ESPN,

10:34

incredibly talented, doing all the player interviews,

10:37

and then Pete Thamill, who is the most plugged

10:39

in man in all of college football. And I

10:41

will be kind of holding down a separate

10:43

set, and then will I

10:45

don't know exactly with what frequency they'll be

10:47

coming our way, but I told

10:50

the producers, I keep telling them, you know, I'll be

10:52

ready. So if you come to me once, I'll be ready for that one

10:54

time. If you come to me after every pick, I hope to be ready

10:56

for those thirty two picks on night one as well.

10:58

And then Day three have a lot of fun Reese

11:01

hosting again. That's on ESPN

11:03

twelve to let's call it seven usually when it

11:05

wraps up with Lewis Riddick,

11:07

Matt Miller, myself, and then of course Mel

11:10

Kiper Junior, who I am

11:12

endlessly thankful for to call it colleague,

11:14

because Mel's forty six years speak

11:16

for themselves, and his passion and energy

11:18

for this stuff never ceases to amaze

11:20

me. I have tried many times over

11:23

the past nine months to throw a sleeper a guy

11:25

that Mel There's no way he's heard of him, because

11:28

he got it. He's got the kids uncle's name,

11:31

he's got the kids high school memorized. He

11:33

knows what this kids you have book?

11:35

Like, were you too young for that? Did you order the book as

11:37

a kid?

11:37

Well? I have the Melkiper, But

11:40

now now I'm trying to continue

11:43

to stockpile them, like I want to go back and see

11:45

if I can get the cool.

11:46

Thing to collect. That's a really great thing to

11:48

collect. Darren Ravel might have a field day

11:50

with that. I feel like if we here's

11:52

Mel Kuiper volumes one through forty

11:55

six of his draft Bible, but the

11:57

story goes he was living in I want

11:59

to say like dun Doc, Maryland, some

12:01

small town in Maryland and was

12:03

writing up a draft guide and would send it out

12:06

to all the teas and it made its

12:08

way around and then he got put on TV and the rest is history.

12:10

Incredible. Yeah, the draft industry

12:12

would be something, for sure if not for Mel's

12:15

presence, but it wouldn't be what it is. I can guarantee you that,

12:17

and it wouldn't have happened as fast as it did. So

12:20

I will defend Melchiper Jr.

12:23

Until I'm read in the phase because

12:25

what he has done for this industry and broadening

12:27

the reach of the NFL draft is legitimately

12:29

incomparable. I think there should be a thirty for thirty

12:31

on mail one day because he is

12:34

so deserving of that kind of coverage, which he will

12:36

absolutely, one hundred percent shy

12:38

away from because the guy wants absolutely

12:40

zero in the way of praise. He just wants

12:42

to do the job.

12:43

Yeah, it's the best, He's

12:45

the best. He's the godfather of it all, and I think

12:47

we all pay our respects always and it's so cool

12:50

that you get to do it alongside him.

12:51

That's got to be a dream come true.

12:53

All Right, here's the exercise that we're going to do

12:55

field because all right, I honestly, I

12:57

was like, who can I ask? I was like, there's two people

12:59

I want to do this with. It's it's you and it's

13:02

Daniel Jeremiah. I'm like, those are the two guys

13:04

that I've been reading their mock drafts. And I'm like, all right,

13:06

these of the two that I feel are very plugged

13:08

in but also would have fun with this

13:10

exercise. So here's what we're gonna

13:12

do on this.

13:13

DJ said no, By the way, then right, I'm

13:16

busy.

13:16

So funny, I didn't even ask DJ. It's like we're

13:18

gonna We're gonna probably ask DJ either end of the week

13:21

to do it or next week. But like he's gone a little

13:23

Hollywood for me, like to the point where

13:25

I asked him to do the

13:27

pod and recently and his

13:29

response was like, I'm just so booked up

13:31

with like media engagements. I'm like, okay,

13:34

dude, enjoy enjoy a local Topeka,

13:36

Kansas radio talking about the Jayhawks

13:38

cornerback that you're gonna project

13:40

in the seventh round. Anyway, I know what's.

13:42

Gonna happen is you know Lebron has that new podcast

13:45

with JJ Reddick, which is a basketball junkies

13:47

podcast, but they're gonna find time for DJ. That's

13:49

the kind of.

13:49

Level that actually be great.

13:51

Yeah. I love DJ obviously as well. He's the best

13:54

human and has been so I mean, the

13:56

support he has sent to me during this process

13:58

has been great.

13:59

Isn't it cool that, like, the two

14:01

guys that are like at the top of the heap right

14:03

now are just amazing humans And I hate

14:05

to like do a commercial for both of them, but like I've

14:08

melt, Kaiper has no reason to be nice to me. He's always

14:10

been so gracious. And Daniel Jeremiah. If

14:12

you find one person in the media or

14:15

fan or whoever who has a negative thing about Daniel

14:17

Jeremiah to say, I would love to meet that.

14:19

Person, I'm right.

14:22

Yeah, those guys are as classy as it gets,

14:24

and they remind us of two things.

14:27

One humility should win and then two, there's

14:29

a lot of real estate out there. Just because DJ's got

14:31

a mock draft can't meet doesn't mean that you can't have

14:33

your own. So, uh, they've been alter

14:36

supportive and I'm certainly grateful for that.

14:38

You're one of the nicest guys. Do you want to do a list of our

14:40

top five hated people in NFL media

14:42

or not?

14:42

Do you want to Should we say that at the end?

14:44

Yeah, maybe we do. Maybe that's the teaser trying

14:47

to.

14:47

Who's like, who's the top heat there?

14:50

I mean it would be nice, like it would be nice to be

14:52

like a heel in sports media, the guy that

14:54

just just people just everyone hates.

14:57

Yeah.

14:57

Yeah, but you know they say,

14:59

you know, like, do you want to be interesting? Right? Exactly

15:02

like you said interesting.

15:04

Entertainment that this is all about. Say

15:07

all right, here's what we're gonna do. Okay, we're gonna do

15:09

a mock draft of two of us. I'm gonna

15:11

go and then you're gonna go. We're gonna alternate. But here's

15:14

the little twisted it. At seventeen

15:16

halfway through, we're gonna switch and

15:18

the guy that was doing odds is gonna do

15:20

evens just to mix it up a little bit. So we can't

15:22

like project ahead of time.

15:24

Okay, So I love that.

15:25

I think it's cool. Do you want to, like, should we

15:27

flip a coin? What should we do? Our shout is you know

15:29

what, it's my podcast. Yeah,

15:32

I'm a gracious guy. Why don't why

15:34

don't you choose if you want to lead off or go second.

15:36

Okay, I'll lead off only for this reason, Mel

15:38

and I did this a comparable exercise

15:41

where we went back and forth and I had the evens.

15:43

So I feel like, you know, I feel a little naked on

15:45

the odd pics right now. And there

15:47

were a few teams that I find particularly

15:49

fascinating with the odds in the first seventeen

15:52

picks that I think would be fun to have the opportunity

15:54

to be at the control panel of Okay,

15:57

so I'll take the odds that work.

15:58

That works great. The question is do we want to do

16:01

trades where you could say I think this team's gonna trade

16:03

up or should we just scrap that.

16:04

I think we should do it because I do think you I agree,

16:07

there's way too obvious of a likely trade

16:09

up that whether it gets

16:11

done or not, it's going to be discussed. It probably already

16:13

has been discussed. So we should throw that certainly

16:16

into.

16:17

And here's how that will work, because I think we're doing

16:19

this on the fly a little bit. Say say

16:21

you're at number three and you have the Patriots

16:24

and you want to do a trade up. You can say I'm

16:26

going to use one of my two trade

16:28

ups right here, and here's where it is. And we don't

16:31

even need to have the terms. You just put another team in

16:33

and we'll go from there. So you have two trade ups that

16:35

you can do or trade backs

16:37

or whatever it is. I think this makes it really

16:39

really fun.

16:40

Yeah, I've got I've got my pad here

16:43

that I pulled out sectually. My two year old

16:45

loves to scribble on dad's desk, so I have this.

16:47

I'm now ready, just in case I'm taking notes, in

16:49

case I forget who I had, is a trade up,

16:51

trade down, et cetera. But so should

16:53

I lead it off here with the Chicago Bears, nice and easy.

16:59

The NFL Draft has begun,

17:01

the Chicago Bears are on the clock

17:04

field. It's selecting for Chicago

17:06

first.

17:06

Overall, I'm going to be more like the Indiana

17:08

fever last night during the WNBA draft,

17:11

where you know you're taking let's spare everybody

17:13

the suspense and the drama, or taking Kayleb Williams

17:15

know all, using of the nine minutes

17:17

and forty five seconds Kaaler Williams usc

17:20

quarterback. Feel really good about this one.

17:22

Obviously, A being accurate and be. You

17:24

know, I love the player. There certainly have been some

17:26

guys that have made this conversation slightly more

17:28

interesting, most notably Jaden Daniels from LSU.

17:31

But my top overall player

17:33

since the first board that I put together Peter was

17:35

Kayleb Williams hasn't changed throughout the process.

17:38

And I think it's a great situation

17:40

obviously for Caleb to walk into in Chicago.

17:42

Yeah.

17:43

I've done a lot on these pods

17:45

talking about the Caleb

17:47

Chicago connection. I mentioned yesterday

17:49

when I was talking that they've had three

17:51

really extensive meetings, his Combine

17:54

experience, his pro Day experience, and

17:56

his visit to Chicago. And I could just tell

17:58

you talking to the Bears guys, he's blown them away.

18:01

And what's blown him away is his love

18:03

for football. His passion also

18:05

a little and this is going to sound crazy coming from a guy who

18:07

made like ten million dollars in an Ael money. There

18:10

is a humility there. And what

18:12

one Bear source told me, which I

18:14

loved, is he he

18:17

walks quietly. I'm like, what does that mean.

18:19

It's like he's got his own pace. He's

18:22

not a look at me, he's not wearing

18:24

you know something that's going to scream into the crowd.

18:26

He comes in with the beard,

18:28

just a little scruffy. He comes

18:31

in with just a desire to

18:33

talk football, and he wants to be the best to

18:35

ever play. And I think everyone does

18:37

want that deep in their soul. But like it

18:40

this humility, which I didn't see that as

18:42

the word attached to him. It seems to

18:44

be coming through to Chicago people, which I think that's going

18:46

to fit greatly in that city and hopefully

18:49

he can bring them to New Heights.

18:50

Yeah. Last thing I'll say on Caleb is

18:52

that you know, he marches to the beat of his own drum

18:54

in the eyes of some and you can view that one

18:56

of two ways. One is like,

18:59

what's up with that? I don't like people that disrupt the

19:01

norm. The other side of it as don't

19:03

we want authentic athletes?

19:04

Don't we want guys who.

19:05

Are comfortable in their own skin Because it

19:07

is not always going to be easy. Rookie

19:10

quarterbacks, regardless of where you end up, face some

19:12

sort of adversity and I think Caleb, being

19:14

Caleb, is well equipped to handle whatever

19:17

adversity may come his way. Now maybe

19:19

that he's got Keenan Allen Dj Moore

19:21

a potentially other wide receiver to throw to, and

19:23

things are pretty seamless here. But I do think that Caleb's

19:26

authenticity is something that really has shined through

19:28

during the process.

19:29

Agreed number

19:37

two. The Washington Commanders real

19:41

quick what

19:43

they have done this offseason in acquiring

19:45

a coaching staff that I really like, but also

19:48

a front office. Did you ever work

19:50

for the NFL proper? Do you work in Park Avenue

19:52

ever?

19:53

No, I never did, but I do work with

19:55

Well. My first this is a great well

19:57

is I don't want to get too far off track here, but my first

19:59

summer working with the Patriots

20:02

in the in house scouting

20:05

area, there were three deaths, two of which were

20:08

Brian Flores and Adam

20:10

Peters. So, I mean it's

20:12

crazy. I mean it was like if I went

20:14

through the people that were in the building at that point,

20:16

you'd be blown away. I mean, I think it was like, I think

20:18

it's pushing like a dozen or so future head

20:20

coaches or gms. But

20:22

yeah, so I have a ton of reference for

20:25

from Adam Peters and I don't. I'm

20:27

assuming you're gonna go down to the Dave GUARDI route.

20:29

I just wanted to just explain like who he

20:32

was, and I find it. So they've

20:34

got like this, from what I'm told, they've got like this open floor

20:36

plan in Washington right now, where

20:38

like there's no not everyone's in their own office.

20:40

Everyone's kind of collaborating. And like the thought

20:42

of Dave Gardy in a commander's

20:45

shirt sitting in like an open Facebook

20:47

style office is like jarring to

20:49

me because GUARDI has worked at the league

20:51

the entire time that I have been employed

20:54

by NFL Network, and I think at Fox

20:56

and is like the most trusted and beloved

20:59

guy at the league office from the team side,

21:01

because they go to him with every question about salary

21:03

cap, about front office rules, about

21:06

whether or not this makes sense with the waiver wire,

21:08

and there are so many guys now you're just talking about the new

21:10

England Tree. The management

21:13

council at the league is a group, and it's

21:15

all these ivy league guys and really smart

21:18

aspiring ladies and they go there and

21:20

they learn the league rules inside and out,

21:22

and then they're eventually spit out of the league office

21:24

and they go to teams all over

21:26

the league, and you could turn thirty two teams

21:29

that have you know, people who worked started off at the

21:31

management Council in the League office, Guardy

21:34

is all of their mentors, and on

21:36

Monday to get the chefter

21:39

notification that Dave Gardy's leaving the league

21:41

office to go work for a team, I

21:43

was like, Wow, A, that's

21:46

surprising, b how cool is that for

21:48

him? And then see that was a sneaky

21:50

hire by the Commanders. I'm sure a lot of teams

21:52

would have loved to have them, And like, I think that is

21:54

a major X factor moving forward

21:57

as the season goes. And I just

21:59

love what they've done this offseason and assembling

22:01

a group that includes him and obviously

22:03

Peters and then d Q and

22:05

Kingsbury great coaches, but then also

22:08

to tap into guys like Bob Myers

22:11

and to tap into guys like Dave Gardy who

22:13

are outside the box hires. I love it.

22:15

With the second overall pick, I don't care

22:17

if it's Dave Guardy, Adam Peters, Bob Myers

22:19

making the pick. Jaden Daniels,

22:21

the Heisman Trophy winner out

22:23

of LSU I have going to the Washington

22:26

Commanders.

22:26

I feel good about that one. I mean feel great

22:28

about the player. Obviously, after this past season,

22:31

only player in FBS history with three hundred

22:33

and fifty passing yards and two hundred rushing yards

22:35

in a single game. I mean, the guy put up literally game

22:38

numbers. It's against two. I gotta watch that against

22:40

Florida. There are a lot of Florida grads. We

22:43

were talking about Howie Roseman earlier in the show,

22:45

and you know, and he obviously

22:47

and Jed Fish. So

22:50

I'm sorry if they're listening right now, but all

22:52

the Florida grads out there, I apologize, But that game

22:54

was I mean, that was extraterrestrial stuff.

22:57

They are from from Jada Daniels. I think the

22:59

draft kind of start to pick three. Let's think

23:01

it's interesting, all right, So the Patriots

23:03

right now, this I think is the dilemma if you're in

23:05

New England is I think you know, trade down

23:07

possibilities are in play here, right because as

23:09

we know, there are teams that are interested. As we

23:12

also know, the price is going to be steep

23:14

for those teams to move up, whether it's the Giants

23:16

from six to three, whether it's the Vikings

23:18

from eleven to three, Broncos twelve to three,

23:21

Raiders thirteen to three, the big

23:23

price sack, right, We're talking about likely three

23:26

overall first round you know, first round picks

23:28

overall, whether they're you know.

23:29

From those teams and the teams, yes, like

23:31

that eleven, twelve, thirteen you're looking at

23:34

as the trade lance trade is kind of like the.

23:36

Good DAP point.

23:37

Yeah, it's the basement offer more

23:39

than that.

23:39

Yep, I would say that's exactly where you start.

23:42

What I fear if I'm a team moving

23:45

down that needs a quarterback is that while the

23:47

Patriots I think they have, you know, this is a team,

23:49

it's still got a lot of gaps to fill and it might

23:51

be a long year this year as they move into a post

23:53

Bill Belichick world. You know, the NFL,

23:55

you could easily fall to, like the seventh

23:57

or eighth pick in the draft with

24:00

like a five and twelve, six and eleven record

24:02

and a couple of weird things take place, or late

24:04

in the season you play a team, it's all sorts of bang

24:06

up.

24:06

In the wilderness.

24:07

Yeah, So you might take that draft

24:10

draft capital that you just acquired and then have

24:12

to use it to move back up because you need

24:14

to solve your quarterback equation. So I'm going

24:16

to resist trade down temptation and

24:19

go with Drake May, who I don't

24:21

know that he is a lock there. If

24:23

you talk about there are a couple of players in this draft,

24:25

but don't generate a lot of divert divisive

24:28

opinions. There are sums that some players

24:30

that tend to be a little bit more all over the board. I

24:32

don't think people have Drake May. It's like a second round

24:34

pick. But I think there are some people that feel like he's absolutely

24:36

worth every penny at pick two or pick

24:38

three. There are others who say, I wish it were a little

24:41

bit lower that I were taking him. You don't have that

24:43

luxury though. If you're a team at the top, you

24:45

take the player the bird in hand, and I think there's

24:47

a ton of potential for Drake May a

24:49

ton. It may take some time there,

24:51

but a twenty twenty year old six four two

24:54

thirty with that arm, that's a rocket. I'm

24:56

betting on Drake May.

24:57

Basketball family, incredible

24:59

athlete, great kid, superstar.

25:02

In Charlotte. You

25:04

know that Patriots Place in Fox That's

25:07

like, you know, it's right back. So they took

25:09

them to Davio's at Patriots

25:11

Place a couple of weeks ago, wind and dined them

25:13

and I'm the great Italian steak house there

25:16

you go. I talked to multiple people in that

25:18

building and they they, I mean, they like

25:20

Daniels and they're gonna love McCart. They were spoken

25:22

about about j who's meeting with him this week,

25:24

but they loved Drake May.

25:26

I think they're comfortable with Daniels or May

25:28

and they'll take the chips that fall as they

25:30

may. And it's like, we're not planning on being

25:32

in the top three too often. Let's get a quarterback.

25:35

Just let's not overthink this.

25:36

Yeah, Chicago was in a unique spot last year

25:38

where Justin had still, you know, only two years into

25:40

his career, had shown enough promise that you could justify

25:43

the trade down and bet on the possibility of

25:45

Justin ascending. Now, they ended up getting the first overall

25:47

pick this year, so it was all moot. But you just

25:50

it's a really difficult thing because if you're moving

25:52

down with Minnesota as an example, comp Peter three

25:54

to eleven, you're not getting one of those first three

25:56

or four quarterbacks, and Minnesota

25:59

with a good quarterback next year and vat roster,

26:01

I know, you kidding me, like that pick that they would

26:03

potentially get in twenty twenty five could be like twenty

26:06

one two. Right, that's the

26:08

risk you run. So we feel good about the

26:10

first three picks being quarterbacks. I

26:12

don't know that it's Patriots at three, but I would guess

26:14

the Patriots end up sticking at three, taking

26:17

a QB.

26:17

Number four the air.

26:20

I just sip myself, the Arizona Cardinals

26:22

are on the clock. I'm going to use one of my two

26:25

trade ups.

26:25

Okay, one of two has been exhausted.

26:27

Got here we go, the.

26:29

New York Giants two spots

26:32

from six to four.

26:34

Here's the trade compensation. I've kind of gone

26:36

through the Jimmy Johnson chart and then talk to people

26:38

around the league. Because it's just two spots,

26:41

I think it would be the

26:44

sixth overall pick, all right, a third

26:46

round pick from this year, and then next year's

26:49

second round pick. Does that seem too light or do you think

26:51

it would have to be a little bit more.

26:52

No, I think that's that's a good starting point. Now Arizona

26:55

will ask for more. I think Arizona would say give

26:57

us twenty twenty five to one and we have a deal right

26:59

away. I think the Giants would say, let's negotiate.

27:02

I remind people of this all the time. The draft charts

27:05

a nice proxy, but they matter a whole

27:07

lot more the further you get from pick number

27:09

one, right, and when you're paying

27:12

up the price for a quarterback premium, you

27:14

can expect that it's not going to follow

27:16

the chart perfectly. So regardless

27:19

of what four sorry six plus

27:21

the Giants third rounder plus the twenty twenty

27:23

five second rounder says, according to whichever

27:26

draft chart you like the most, the

27:28

Cardinals are going to quote unquote win that

27:31

trade based off of the draft value chart. But

27:33

the Giants in this scenario, I would assume

27:35

we're getting a quarterback. Yeah, And to your

27:37

point, Arizona

27:40

is going to be listening to offers. Minnesota, I

27:42

truly believe is looking to move up. I also

27:44

think Denver would call, although they don't

27:46

have many picks to give up, and I

27:48

think Vegas might call.

27:49

I think all that might happen. But I think

27:52

when you're Arizona and you could get one

27:54

of the wide receivers at six, thank you, Yes,

27:57

it's and you're not getting them at eleven, you're

27:59

not getting them at twelve, you're not getting at thirteen.

28:02

So it's a lot less pain to move

28:04

back to spots. I think you might even be where to

28:06

take less trade compensation.

28:08

Completely the future picks.

28:10

So I'm going Giants, and then, gosh,

28:13

a lot of Giants fans are gonna throw

28:15

their remotes at the screen because I know that

28:18

there's a lot of people out there who don't want to giant,

28:20

big blue fans in my life who are like, no, it's

28:22

just Daniel Jones two point zero, don't do this again.

28:24

We still pay Daniel Jones JJ McCarthy

28:27

fourth to the Giants.

28:28

There you go. I'm not surprised by that one. There.

28:31

I think the most important point you made beyond

28:33

the Giants taking a quarterback is that the

28:35

real risk that Arizona runs and moving too far

28:37

down is missing out on one of these. I'm

28:40

not going to use the word generational, but one

28:42

of these I think surefire wide receivers

28:44

because there are three. The depth is tremendous,

28:47

but there are three that really are a cut

28:49

above.

28:50

I think there's three and

28:52

there's a big gap, and then there's gonna be like five

28:54

others taken in the first round. That's how good this wide

28:56

receiver draft is.

28:57

Totally agree So number five is the Chargers.

29:00

I am going to Obviously, in this

29:02

scenario, the trade up has already kind of taken

29:04

place to shake up the top five. So

29:06

I'm going to say, hey, we have Marvin

29:09

Harrison Junior sitting here waiting

29:11

for us. Now, I have heard all of you very

29:13

smart people, including Jim Harbaugh himself, kind

29:15

of alluding to it the importance of offensive

29:18

line play that should not be dismissed

29:20

at all. But in this scenario where

29:22

I don't think another team's going to be tempted to move

29:24

up to five here, I just I

29:26

think Minnesota, as an example, might

29:29

be willing to run the risk, play

29:31

the game stand pat a game of chicken

29:33

here and say, if we love

29:35

and I don't know they love Michael Pennix junior

29:37

bon Nicks enough to potentially take

29:40

him in the first round, we might be okay

29:42

with just sitting at pick eleven and

29:44

hoping that things work out. So the Chargers

29:46

end up taking Marvin Harrison Junior. To me, the

29:48

most pro ready player in the class twenty

29:51

eight, receiving touchdowns over the past two years, Peter

29:53

and most in FBS. What's so impressive

29:55

about him is the consistency I'm c

29:58

J. Shroud superstar. Maybe the best rookie

30:00

season ever for a quarterback this

30:02

past year, though Kyle McCord that that was a disappointing

30:05

Ohio State off. It's a number of plays left

30:07

on the field was really kind of

30:09

stunning, except for when they involved

30:11

Marvin Harrison. He still went nuts. Yeah, nuts,

30:14

Yeah.

30:14

I love that pick. And truly, if

30:17

anyone knows what he can do, it's

30:19

the guy who played against him in the Big Game three

30:21

different times and they're coached against him, that would

30:23

be Jim Harbaugh. I

30:25

love that pick. I think that's the right pick, especially

30:28

with Keenan Allen gone and Mike Williams

30:30

gone. Six. Now it's Arizona.

30:32

I think they put their card in. I know they have offensive

30:35

line needs, I know they have a lot of needs on defense,

30:37

but I don't think they let Roma Dunes they fall out

30:39

of the top six. I'm gonna go Romadonsay,

30:41

wide receiver out of Washington.

30:44

Kyler Murray gets his guy, and I'm sure

30:46

you're hearing all the same stuff. I am great

30:48

player, maybe a better

30:51

human. I hate that term because it's so like

30:53

it's like just but like this guy is all World

30:57

Corner. Yeah, tell

30:59

me that.

31:00

I had the great fortune of being at both

31:02

the organ and the Washington Pro Day. Oregon was

31:04

early in the cycle. It was day two of free agencies.

31:06

A little sparse for crowd. Washington,

31:08

big crowd. They've got a ton of guys obviously this

31:10

year, maybe ten or twelve or whatever. It is the

31:12

end of getting drafted. Let

31:15

me let me reach up. We're close to ten. Could

31:17

potentially be drafted from Washington then never may not

31:19

be exactly that, but Rome opted

31:22

not to take part in the Pro Day after working out

31:24

the combin right, he was the one receiver of that top

31:26

group that did everything. But the involvement

31:28

that he had, Peter, I mean it was awesome, like he

31:31

was as involved as somebody could be without

31:33

actually taking part in the Pro Day.

31:36

As everybody was watching Michael Pennix Junior

31:38

run his forty, I was sitting there

31:40

amongst you know, by one hundred and twenty five scouts that

31:42

are all you know, working the stopwatches in Rome

31:45

sitting there as well. And after the forty

31:47

he I don't know why he turned him, you know, a group that

31:49

included me, but he's like, what'd you guys? Get what'd you guys

31:51

have? You know? And I'm like, well, I'm

31:53

not a scout room, but thank you, but it was awesome.

31:55

His encouragement for others and everybody

31:58

of that program echoed that sentiment that

32:00

this is an A plus human.

32:02

I'm not going to sit here in front of the Bay two on Rome

32:04

versus Malik Neighbors, Peter, I think it's said energy.

32:07

I think the reality is that you're talking about guys

32:09

who, if we use an arbitrary one to one

32:11

hundred scale, these at all be you know, ninety eight,

32:13

ninety nine's ninety seven, So we

32:15

can bicker. Ultimately, the only people

32:18

that it matters to about whether they go wide receiver

32:20

one, two or three are the first two teams

32:23

to take a wide receiver. So if

32:25

Roma Dunze ends up being better than the league Neighbors,

32:28

then if Neighbors goes ahead of Romaduonze,

32:30

the team that takes Neighbors will have to live with that. But

32:32

ultimately, I think all three of these guys are just outstanding.

32:35

Let me let me do a quick reset here, so please

32:37

One Chicago Caleb Williams, two

32:40

Washington Jaden Daniels three New England

32:42

Drake May four New York Giants, JJ McCarthy,

32:45

five Los Angeles Chargers, Marvin Harrison

32:47

Junior, six Arizona Cardinals

32:49

take Roma Dunsay wide receiver at A Washington,

32:51

which goes to seven Tennessee Titans.

32:54

Field Yates. You are the

32:56

Tennessee front office and coaching staff.

32:58

Your selection is whom.

32:59

Okay, well, here's the truth, Peter. I want to trade

33:01

down right now? Is that I want to do and here's the reason why.

33:03

I don't know who I'm going to do it with. And I'm not sure that I can

33:05

execute this right now. So

33:08

I am going to pick a team, any

33:11

team. I don't have a team, and that's kind of killing

33:13

me right now, I think. So I'm

33:15

going to do two things. I'm going to state that I

33:17

believe Tennessee is a compelling trade down team.

33:20

Okay,

33:23

we're gonna have some fun here. Let me just rup things a little bit. Okay,

33:25

let's do it. Let's shake it.

33:26

That's what the whole thing is. Exercise.

33:28

It's just gonna be tough to do because they have they

33:30

have paid premiums recently. I'm having the

33:32

New Orleans Saints trade up here.

33:34

I love this go on.

33:35

The Titans are at seven, they have a glaring needed offensive

33:38

tackle. We all acknowledge that when I am not convinced

33:40

of Peters that while I have Joe Walt as the number

33:42

one tackle on my board, and I think many

33:45

in the draft industry complex have it

33:47

the same way, I am not convinced that the league

33:49

has complete consensus that is

33:52

head and shoulders above Tali Fuaga

33:54

or old the fashioned new Troy

33:56

fot Utana, whoever it might be, right, it's

33:58

closely clustered enough. And with quarterback

34:01

it's kind of like house hunting, right, like if you don't get

34:03

your preferred target, you might move on. Right

34:05

with offense of linemen, especially

34:08

when you have one of the absolute greatest

34:10

to ever do it, in Bill Callaghan. He might say, hey,

34:12

you guys are all happy with Joel seven. Yeah,

34:15

but if we're at fourteen we get Olu Fashioner, I'm

34:17

cool with it too.

34:18

I could coach him up.

34:19

So I'm gonna do my trade down. So the Saints

34:22

now at seven and the Titans

34:24

at fourteen, I do think the Saints have a desperate needed

34:26

offensive tackle. They may say, hey, let's address

34:28

that, I too, all right, and

34:31

that which may have to be part of this this this.

34:33

Let's just say this is a swap of seven

34:35

and fourteen and we'll go future first round or something

34:38

like that.

34:38

Sounds right to me. Off the board, he stays

34:40

home New Orleans, neighbors and a lave.

34:42

I love it. Yeah, And then they do need a wide receiver

34:45

here. You know there are as in investments,

34:47

you know, relatively modest. Cedric Wilson on a two

34:49

year deal. Guy who's released, I

34:51

guess he's Conjuringspirer to Miami. So

34:54

I think New Orleans is a sneaky wide

34:56

receiver team, and it's right here would be as

34:58

good as it gets on the wide receiver front.

35:00

I love fun here.

35:02

And jumping Atlanta at a who

35:04

might have been in the neighbors quote. It's

35:06

funny. The regime everyone

35:09

thinks is like an old regime because Roheie

35:11

Morris coach, But it's not true because

35:13

Terry Fonteo in Atlanta, the GM is

35:15

the one who drafted Pits

35:18

and London and Bijon, And

35:20

it's three different offensive players at

35:22

skill positions in the top ten in three

35:24

consecutive years. I

35:27

don't see an offensive skill position player

35:29

now as we have gone quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

35:31

wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. I think Atlanta

35:34

takes the first defensive player off the board.

35:36

I'm going Dallas Turner, pass

35:38

rusher out of Alabama.

35:40

Yeah. One thing we know, I'll just make this in. I don't

35:42

have a lot to try to disrupt this, but Terry

35:44

Fonteau, the Falcons GM targets

35:46

young players. Has been a big part of his calculus.

35:49

And Dallas Turner there, he's a true

35:51

junior. Right, so it's only got three years in colleges.

35:53

You know one of your contributors I've played yep.

35:56

I'll play them all yep. And was the SEC Defensive Player

35:58

of the Year this past year. Great length, right, athleticism,

36:00

ten plus sacks, versatility

36:03

as well the Falcons, like I mean,

36:05

Terry Foutna has or he's lean young. Maybe

36:07

it's too small to sample size to say that this is a

36:10

forever trend, but back to back to back years

36:12

of going very young. Make it the fourth straight year. So

36:14

that brings us to the Jets at number.

36:15

Ten, It doesn't it brings us to the Bears

36:17

at number nine.

36:18

It brings us to the Bears at number nine, all

36:21

right, So, Peter, this one's really interesting, and

36:24

this might be one of those where, like the bear's screaming

36:26

needs right now are no longer screaming, right.

36:28

I mean, they have a lot of work this offseason. I

36:31

think if one of the three receivers is here, it's really,

36:33

really, really tempting to just take whoever

36:35

is available out of Molie Neighbors or potentially

36:38

Ramadoonza. I think that

36:40

Ed Rusher is certainly a consideration as well,

36:42

even after the Montes sweat trade, but no Dallas

36:45

Turner here. Layout to Lati will get to it at some

36:47

point, but I do think that given the medical

36:49

history, there are some that might feel as though inside

36:51

that top ten could come with too much risk. I'm

36:53

gonna go to the offensive line, and they do.

36:56

Obviously, they made a big investment in Darnell right

36:58

last year, so this is not a right tackle investment

37:00

and it may not necessarily be a left tackle investment

37:03

either. And this is where it gets fun. Do you take

37:05

a Joe Waltz or do you take a Tay Fought Utanu?

37:08

And I'm gonna lean towards fot Utanu here. Really

37:11

the board, I love that off the board.

37:12

Yeah, So Hey, no one had right going

37:14

as the first offensive tackle last year and he did,

37:17

so this is this could be true.

37:18

This may be crazy. But so

37:21

with Braxton Jones at left tackle, who's

37:23

a thirty year player now, brown pick out of Southern Utah

37:25

a few years ago. The Bears are in good shape, but not

37:28

like this is not I

37:30

think he's a good player. I don't think, yeah,

37:32

we're not if he were to eventually be replaced

37:35

by this player. It's not like you're replacing Trent Williams

37:37

and his prime. So Troy fot

37:39

Wutan, who at worst, Peter is you're

37:42

super sub at left tackle, left guard,

37:44

right guard, right tackle. I think he's a Day one starter a guard

37:46

for the Bears. And maybe maybe

37:48

you're saying that this is too much of an investment

37:50

for back to back years taking a right

37:53

tackle and then potentially an in tier offensive lineman.

37:55

You got a young quarterback. I am sort of saying,

37:58

I don't care about the conventional norms. I am taking

38:00

Troy fot Utan here and now the Jets

38:02

around the clock and maybe the dreams.

38:04

I don't know about the dream scenario a sion And

38:07

look, you say, Joe Alt's there like that's a dream scenario.

38:09

But then I don't know they Rock

38:12

Bowers is really

38:15

really good. I mean, that's a and the Jets

38:17

from everyone. Look, there's certain teams

38:19

unplugged in with Jets or one of them. They've told

38:21

me. Anything's on the board

38:23

obviously, and trade back is an option. So

38:26

they don't have a second round pick this year? Do

38:28

they think about trading back here and collecting

38:30

some more pieces? All right? If it goes

38:32

this way, gosh, offensive tackle versus

38:34

tight end, I'm going down to alt

38:37

or Bowers.

38:40

Gosh, I

38:42

know it's fun.

38:43

Right When did they take Beckon then the eleventh pick

38:45

couple of years ago?

38:46

Eleven?

38:46

Yeah, he's already a flame out and

38:48

I don't think he's been signed anywhere.

38:51

All will not be that. Gosh,

38:54

that's I would agree on that, all right.

38:56

For the sake of I'm

38:59

gonna go Rock Bowers

39:02

tight end over

39:05

Joe al might they might regret that, but you know what, I

39:07

feel like Rogers might want

39:09

some weapons and Bowers can, Bowers

39:11

can ball. I'm gonna go Bowers to the

39:13

Jets at eleven. At ten. Oh,

39:16

that felt weird, which leads to the Minnesota Vikings,

39:18

who did not get one of the top four quarterbacks

39:21

at number eleven. Field eight's here on the clock.

39:23

Yeah, so thoughts here would be quarterback. I

39:25

just don't know that's the right spot there. You

39:28

know, there's some good offensive lineman here, but they've got a great

39:30

tackle duo ed rusher. Still feels

39:32

like a need here. So

39:36

I thought that maybe because

39:39

quasy Dopha. Benza has obviously

39:41

has Cleveland roots, San Francisco roots as well Cleveland.

39:43

Andrew Berry certainly a skewed, very young at

39:45

his high caliber picks right Also,

39:48

like I was talking on Terry Fontno, you

39:50

know, Ryan Gregson, very prominent role there in Minnesota

39:53

former Colts GM, and I think that he's got

39:55

enough of the voice that they may say, you know, we're not going to

39:57

stick to just you know, young guys. So

40:00

I'm gonna go lay out to a lot too. Peter and I just mentioned

40:02

how like he's it too much of a risk inside the top ten.

40:04

Is it possible to take him outside the top ten a number

40:06

eleven, So I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth

40:08

and just saying based off how the board fail right now,

40:11

I'm going to play out to Latsu and I'm doing this

40:13

with the implicit sort of understanding

40:15

or acknowledgment that their medical staff

40:17

is comfortable with where things are at, and

40:20

Alto is a terrific player, such an advanced,

40:22

nuanced pass rusher. So they lose to Neil Hunter,

40:25

and they replace him with Jonathan Grenard

40:27

and also lely Onto a lot.

40:29

I don't think if you're a Vikings fan, you could complain

40:31

about that pick at all. You'd look at the board and you'd

40:33

say, Okay, that's that's how it

40:35

fell. We didn't give up the next five

40:37

drafts. We didn't get the quarterback, but let's get

40:39

the best, you know, first or second

40:41

best pass rusher in this draft, which leads to Denver

40:43

at twelve. I've got two guys in

40:46

mind here, neither one being a quarterback.

40:50

I'm gonna if I'm Denver, I'm thinking here,

40:52

okay, we're gonna go Joe Alt

40:55

offensive tackle. I know they've

40:58

got they're paying Mike mclinchee a lot of

41:00

money, and they obviously have Garrett Bowles, but

41:02

I think.

41:03

In his thirty now he came in the league, is an older

41:05

player right now. You know it was

41:07

a late entrant and he had I believe he had turned

41:10

college as a mission that he took. Yes,

41:12

so he's an older prospect. Or he was an older prospect.

41:15

So he's at the point now where like looking

41:17

towards the future, it's not the worst thing in the world. Plus

41:19

Joe hold it picked twelve is pretty darn.

41:21

Good, right, pretty good, and they don't have to mortgage the

41:23

future to get it. And another team that didn't

41:25

get a quarterback at eleven or twelve

41:27

or twelve, but I think they'd be happy

41:29

there, which leads to the Raiders at

41:32

thirteen.

41:32

You're on the clock, buddy, Yep, I'm going to make it

41:34

easy here, Michael Pennix Junior. And

41:39

yeah, right, I haven't read your

41:42

mock yet this morning, and there's a chance that he's not even

41:44

in the first round. I don't know. I am going to this

41:46

unvarnished. I am not at

41:48

all. I have no idea what you said, so I'm

41:51

gonna acknowledge that right away. But

41:53

Michael Pennix Junior would feel,

41:56

you know, there's an interesting team, right. They're saying all

41:58

the right things about Aidan O'Connell and how he's going to have

42:00

to lose the job for someone to take over

42:02

for him, and they signed gard new Minister this two

42:04

year deal. But if you look at the quarterback market, like

42:07

nothing about the finance that says guaranteed

42:09

starter. So Michael Pennix

42:11

Junior ends up in Las Vegas.

42:13

It's really tough to pass on both

42:15

Olu Fashionu and also Tali Fluaga,

42:17

especially Puaga because they have Colton

42:20

Miller. He could be a plug and play right tackle

42:22

there. But I end up with Michael

42:24

Pennix Junior at thirteen. Dude,

42:27

I love that. I love having fought, haven't.

42:29

But I should say this. I know entertainment rules,

42:32

and I'm not trying to know. There's

42:34

a lot of arguments. There's sort of conceivable. I think

42:36

this is a not to be dismissed

42:38

possibility.

42:39

Yeah, And I would also say if bo Nicks

42:41

went twelve to Denver, I wouldn't

42:44

bat and eye either. Like, quarterbacks

42:46

are at a premium and there are about

42:49

six of them that are going to go in the first or second

42:51

round. If you like them enough to take them in the thirties,

42:53

you might as well take them at twelve or thirteen.

42:55

That's how I feel as well, totally all

42:57

right.

42:58

So the Titans are on the board now because of your

43:00

Saints trade.

43:01

I mean, this is perfect scenario for them, perfect

43:03

just.

43:03

A bunch of offensive tackles that they can still

43:06

live there. All there, I

43:08

will go with Talisa Fuaga

43:10

at Oregon State as

43:13

their pick at fourteen. I

43:16

got to talk with him at the combine. That is

43:18

all business. He is a maller and

43:21

whatever team gets him is going to love his his attitude

43:24

in addition to the play. I love I

43:26

love his game.

43:27

All right, let me just say one thing to help you out here. It's

43:29

a tough first name to pronounce. I've hurt him.

43:31

I've heard him do interviews and people have different

43:33

ways and he's icknowledged them both.

43:35

But on the pro day circuit and talking

43:37

to teams, he's often said I'm Tally, so

43:40

Tally seems to work as well. So you

43:42

know, I guess first mentioned. We'll try to name the

43:44

you know, Tally, yes, Paga. Try to hit it correctly,

43:47

and I apologize if I missed it there. But apparently

43:50

he goes by Tali, or has gone by Tally during

43:52

the pre draft process to some so hopefully

43:54

sooner enough we can all call him Tally if

43:56

that's what he prefers to be called. That leads

43:59

us to the fifteenth pick. So my

44:01

final odds team pick Andlas

44:04

is here. All right, So Indy's been mocked so

44:06

many times with the corner that almost feels boring,

44:08

Peter, and yet I am going to do the boring

44:10

thing and give them Quinon Mitchell from Toledo,

44:13

who has been borerlin flallbless

44:15

during the pre draft process. This is a big time college

44:17

player at Toledo, though, right, so how is he going to handle

44:20

better competition? Goes to the Senior Bowl.

44:22

Look like he more than belonged. He was the

44:24

dominant player. The guy was just absolutely

44:27

aces there, ran four three three at the combine.

44:29

It's got a good size, that's excellent speed. Obviously

44:32

great kid. I mean his football knowledge.

44:35

I talked to scouts that how like this guy is like

44:38

Einstein, Like he's really his recall

44:40

is terrific. Some of the stuff that he

44:42

has shown during that pre draft process has been really

44:44

impressive there. So Quenyon

44:47

Mitchell, his intellect

44:49

combined with his physical skill set makes me

44:51

feel like he is a good bet. In

44:53

the first half of the first round, Indianapolis at

44:55

fifteen. They got by last year with a

44:57

very young and not heavily

45:00

invested corner room, especially at

45:02

the perimeter spots. But it wouldn't surprise me

45:04

if they make a bigger investment this off

45:06

season with qu I.

45:08

Like it, Seahawks

45:16

sitting there at sixteen. I

45:19

am looking here, and if I'm

45:21

the Seahawks, I see a corner that I

45:23

like. I also see the offensive

45:26

tackle out of Penn State. Let's go

45:28

there, let's go conservative here, help

45:30

me with this one field sixteen out of Penn State.

45:32

Oh fashion, new FASHIONU

45:36

to the Seattle Seahawks at sixteen

45:39

the OT. Now

45:41

we've got a little run on our big offensive

45:43

tackles here, which goes to seventeen, which is going

45:45

to be my pick Jacksonville.

45:47

Okay, I'm glad that I flipped here because

45:49

this one's a tricky one.

45:50

I think, yeah, I'm gonna go oh,

45:52

because I know I'm

45:55

going to go Terrian Arnold out

45:57

of Alabama. I will say

46:00

this red shirt sophomore,

46:03

but yet was, from what I'm told, the

46:05

leader of that Alabama defense.

46:08

And like the face, even with Dallas Turner there,

46:10

and it's like the voice, the face

46:12

and like the most charismatic

46:16

kid in this draft perhaps, and just a

46:18

magnetism to him and how special

46:20

a guy he was and his connection I was saving in those

46:22

folks. I think he's going to be a top twenty

46:24

pick. Obviously he might go before Mitchell in the

46:26

draft. I'm gonna say, Terry

46:29

and Arnold, here's seventeen

46:31

to Jacksonville, Okay.

46:32

I like it a number seventeen that the corner would

46:34

certainly be one of the most primary needs for that team

46:37

right now. Darius Williams release, he returns

46:39

for the Rams this offseason, and you

46:41

know they signed Ronald Darby do material

46:43

two year deal. What they need to continue to kind

46:45

of hammer away in that secondary. There, So a

46:48

good pick there. I

46:50

am going to go at number eighteen the

46:52

Cincinnati Bengals, who you have to look both

46:54

short and long term, right t Higgins recently

46:57

said he expects to be back for twenty twenty

46:59

four, but still he's

47:01

in a FRA. He's a franchise tag player who previously requested

47:03

a trade wide receiver in need there, But I'm

47:06

going to Maus Mims. The team recently signed

47:08

Trent Brown to a one year deal. Brown obviously

47:10

a very talented player when he's on the field and engaged,

47:13

but one year deal and a guy that you can't

47:15

always expect to be, you know, wire

47:17

to wire dominant player. Marius

47:19

Mamms is a dice roll. This guy has eight

47:22

hundred and three college snaps to

47:24

his name. Peter eight starts eight and three college

47:26

snaps. That is fewer snaps than

47:28

Joe all played this season alone. So different

47:31

level of experience, but all the talent. He's got

47:33

a nearly eighty seven inch wingspan. If

47:35

you're a nerd like you and I are, and you love wingspans

47:37

and arm length and things like that, that a Marius

47:40

Mams checks every box. It's

47:42

going to take some time here, obviously to develop

47:44

him, but I think highly of this prospect.

47:46

If he can put it all together, eighteen will end

47:48

up being a value and not a reach for Amarius

47:50

Mams.

47:51

I love that number. Nineteen is the Rams,

47:53

as you know about baby.

47:55

I know I'm listening closely here.

47:57

First time that the Rams

47:59

have had a first round pick with Sean McVay

48:01

as their coach.

48:02

How nothing is that insane? Like DeShawn

48:05

even know the draft begins next Thursday.

48:08

I think he's a picabo. I think he's chilling,

48:10

yeah, I don't know who they're gonna take,

48:12

I'll tell you that. And they don't know who they're gonna take. How the board falls,

48:14

I will say this, I would be absolutely shocked if

48:16

they don't take an offensive player. This is mcveigh's

48:19

first draft.

48:19

I don't think they're going to take a great note.

48:21

I don't think they're gonna take a middle line back.

48:23

It's just me just knowing him.

48:24

I don't think I'll taking a middle linebacker or a

48:26

third corner. I think they're gonna

48:29

go offense. The question is do they take a skill position player

48:31

or do they take it for the sake of fun?

48:33

Okay, just for fun? Yep, there

48:36

are a million ways they can go

48:38

here. I do not have this from them

48:40

directly, but I look at

48:42

the way that this guy plays, and I know the way

48:44

that not only Sean, but like Kyle

48:46

Shanahan wants a player. How about

48:49

this shocker nineteen rams take

48:51

Lad McConkie out of Georgia.

48:53

It's a fun one. No, it's so it's interesting.

48:55

I mean during the process, I have, like

48:58

from the very first time that you watch Lad screen

49:01

the tape, there's elements of the tape that screen

49:04

first round pick right, But yes, Georgia offense,

49:06

which had two players last year, they had two

49:08

separate running backs with Kendall Milton de Jon

49:10

Edwards, who had thirteen bust rutching touchdowns. They

49:12

had Rock Bauers right and Marcus Roseby

49:14

jacksont a Senior Bowl attendee who could get drafted

49:16

as well. Like a lot of mouths defeats so

49:19

Ladd's overall production, especially when you factor

49:21

in the time miss due to the injury. You

49:24

know, like, is it going to blow you away? No, it

49:26

is not. But it's a hell of a player and he

49:28

is. He's an outstanding right

49:31

runner, which everybody knows.

49:32

It's smart, smart smart. I

49:34

think of it, and I know they're both white receivers,

49:36

but like he looks like a skinnier Cooper Cup when I

49:38

watch him, and.

49:38

I'm like, people get mad when you make that compy.

49:41

Elements of it that come that

49:43

are I think are our pertinent.

49:44

I asked, I asked for a player come to a wide receivers

49:47

coach that I trust in the league. And he didn't go Cooper Cup. He

49:49

said Terry McLaurin. Just the intelligence

49:51

and the route running and the ability and you know what.

49:54

I know, Brian Thomas is on the board. I know ad Mitchell's

49:56

on the board. It's my mock draft. I have the Rams

49:58

taking Lad McConkie, Peter.

49:59

There are shocks every year, and I

50:02

love Ladam. He's been a, you know, a fixture in the top

50:04

forty or so players from my board for throughout

50:06

this so as nineteen a

50:08

rege relative to my board sort of. But I tell you this

50:10

all the time. The further you get away from

50:13

the beginning of the draft,

50:15

like the lesson really matters, Peter. I'm just telling

50:17

everybody. Everybody has a different board, everybody

50:19

has different things they value. There are a couple of wide

50:21

receivers that I thought to myself that they go to the Rams

50:23

specifically, I would love them. If they go elsewhere,

50:26

I wouldn't be quite as optimistic. So I totally

50:28

get that pick that gets me the Steelers at number

50:30

twenty. I'm good to keep up with my boring theme

50:32

here, but sometimes boring means it feels strongly about

50:35

it. And I'm going Graham Barton center

50:37

from Duke guy who played left tackle

50:39

the past three years. Peter's

50:42

this true freshman center for Duke.

50:44

So he's played the interior before.

50:47

You know, again back to like arm length and wingspan.

50:49

Those are the kind of things that suggests he's more of an interior

50:51

player. The Steelers have really worked hard to reshape

50:54

that offensive line over the past fourteen

50:56

twelve fourteen months, both free agency last year

50:58

and the draft last year. So give me Graham Barton,

51:01

who at worst gives you two

51:03

position of flexibility. I think he's probably your

51:05

day one starter. They've released

51:07

Mason Cole actually, like at

51:09

the beginning of the waiver period, they have

51:11

not yet replaced him, at least notably

51:13

to this point. So the Steelers get Graham Barton. Okay,

51:16

love it.

51:17

Here's what we're gonna do for twenty one to thirty two.

51:19

Okay, we're just gonna go your

51:22

ten seconds on the clock in rapid fire.

51:24

I think that's a fair way to do it, all right. Twenty

51:26

one is the Dolphins. I am going

51:29

to go with Byron Murphy,

51:31

the defensive tackle

51:34

out of Texas.

51:35

Yep, okay, love it. He's I

51:37

mean, the guy had just an awesome, awesome

51:40

final season right.

51:40

There, and so good at the combine and

51:42

so good at the work. Oh yeah, I think that's a great

51:45

spot for him at twenty one.

51:46

Yep, twenty two Philadelphia Eagles.

51:48

This is me. I'll go Tyler Geiton, offensive

51:50

tackle from Oklahoma. They have a long history

51:52

of taking players early, as in

51:54

like addressing positions earlier than they

51:56

need them. They do not necessarily need an offensive

51:59

tackle, but this would be Jeff Stoutland's newest

52:01

project. They're terrific offensive line coach.

52:03

This kid has so much talent,

52:06

great feet, left tackle or right tackle.

52:08

Potential vikings on

52:10

the board. I am attempted

52:13

to do it because he Bo

52:16

Nicks quarterback. Oregon have him

52:18

to do it, right, do Yeah? I don't know, Like they

52:20

sit up twenty three and our Vikings

52:22

fans like, okay, in this scenario, we got

52:24

lot too in bow Nicks. What the hell we thought

52:26

we were getting Drake? May you know, like, are they

52:28

just like blah or do you look at

52:31

that and say, all right, bow Nicks is definitely

52:33

better than Sam Darnold.

52:34

I don't know that, I know, I know it's

52:36

well. The only thing I will say though, is just you know,

52:38

with the one year deal for Sam, you have to

52:40

already be mindful of twenty twenty five, right. Other

52:43

things don't go well, then you're obviously

52:45

looking for a quarterback. If things do go well,

52:47

then you're gonna have to reinvest

52:49

in Sam. And you know, negotiating quarterback contracts

52:52

is not always easy. So all right,

52:54

so this is where things get fun.

52:56

Right.

52:56

So we are up to pick number twenty four, the

52:58

Cowboys on the clock. I think this is a team

53:00

that obviously needs an offensive tackle. I

53:03

certainly would be looking at the various

53:05

options here. I would consider a trained

53:07

down because I think that right now, Peter, like I may

53:09

have reached the threshold of my offensive tackle that

53:11

I think that like unimpeachable first round

53:13

picks. So what

53:16

I am going to do is do a little bit

53:18

of a reach here, Peter, and go with Jordan Morgan,

53:20

left tackle from Arizona. Not a huge reach, but

53:22

a tiny bit of a reach here. Uh

53:24

something. He could be a guard at the next level. Here's the good

53:26

news for Dallas. If he ends up being a guard, they

53:29

already have a potential left tackle in Tyler

53:31

Smith. The preference, though, would be to leave Tyler

53:33

Smith at left guard, so you have Jordan

53:35

Morgan. If he works out at left tackle, you

53:37

keep things status quote. Otherwise, if

53:40

he doesn't work out at left tackle. You put him to that

53:42

left guard, Tyler Smith left tackle.

53:44

I'm going to give you a bailout here if you

53:46

want, because I know how this goes. You've got a board,

53:48

You've got all this fictional stuff. Would you rather

53:50

have JC Latham? Or is that? Is that a

53:52

no mission of still

53:55

on the board?

53:56

Fully crap, Peter, I don't, okay. So this

53:58

feels like a massive, massive ror

54:00

in our ways people. All right,

54:02

so we needed to just acknowledge its like I

54:04

put it. I think I would have taken I'm like fourteen

54:07

all right.

54:07

So let's go back. Let's go back, let's go back. So let's

54:09

go tackles here.

54:10

So, yeah, yeah, I.

54:11

Had we had all. No, you took

54:14

Chicago, went out

54:16

of Washington. Do you want to keep that?

54:18

I will keep that one right there?

54:19

Yeah, all right, well yeah I

54:21

took Joe all I still want to keep that. This is where

54:24

we go, Titans. I still want Fuaga

54:26

over him?

54:26

Okay, all good, No problem there.

54:28

The Hawks. I still want Shanu over him.

54:31

So I guess I didn't really take too many of attacks.

54:33

Angles he took it, took Mims over him. Do you want.

54:37

I do. I do, and I apologize to j C.

54:39

Latham, so to both Jason Latham

54:41

and A Marius Mam. So we'll just keep

54:43

sliding the guys down the border here here, I

54:46

like this.

54:47

Latham goes eighteen, and

54:50

then do you want Graham Barton still Steelers

54:53

there, okay.

54:53

And then Mims can go and slide down. So

54:55

we'll go to the Eagles. Yeah, there we go, okay,

54:59

and then they always get guit So I

55:01

apologize. This is the reality of doing a

55:04

off draft on the fly right eater

55:06

screen and going to old school writing things down. So

55:08

I love that, all right. So those three

55:11

impacted parties there.

55:12

You're gonna have to write a long letter to Jordan Morgan.

55:14

He thought it was the first round pick. I don't know about it, all

55:17

right, So let's just to recap here. Instead

55:20

of Mims at eighteen,

55:23

the Bengals take JC Latham, and

55:25

then the Eagles take Mimes

55:28

from Georgia, and then the Cowboys

55:31

they.

55:31

Take Tyler Gaydon, Tyler

55:34

Guyton Oklahoma,

55:36

yep, so take it.

55:38

We're good, moving back all down the field here, sorry,

55:40

yes, we're back on course.

55:42

We're good.

55:43

Uh, Packers, I'll go with there

55:47

are a bunch of wide receivers sitting there, dude,

55:49

But I don't know.

55:49

They've made so many investments there, right.

55:51

They have all those late round guys that all were awesome

55:54

last year. Uh, Packers,

55:57

I will go west, Uh

56:02

the Packers. I will go with Jared

56:05

Verse out.

56:05

Of Florida like a state, yep, and

56:08

keep beefing up that edge rush. You know, Preston Smith

56:10

restructured his contract this offseason.

56:12

Keeps him around, but at some point, you know, he's he's

56:15

the oldest player on the team's president. I think he's the only

56:17

guy in the thirties by the way, the entire Yeah,

56:19

so a very very young roster.

56:21

Obviously still kicking there.

56:23

Yeah, Mays ended up with the Rams last

56:26

season.

56:26

Yeah, they took one of the other Carlson guys. They

56:28

took one of those two.

56:29

Yeah, there you go. Yep. All right, so we

56:31

are back to pick number twenty six

56:33

years we are rolling along him on the evens

56:35

again. This is my way of filibustering for the for

56:38

the Bucks, I'll take Chop Robinson, who

56:40

if you look at the profile of players they have drafted

56:43

early in Tampa, they have definitely skewed towards

56:45

athletic guys. Chop Robinson is an

56:47

elite athlete, somewhat of a divisive prospect

56:49

because he had modest college production. Peter just

56:52

four sacks last year to ast

56:54

Yeah, and two of which game against

56:56

UMass uh. So you know, to two

56:58

sacks in the and the games against the tiffer

57:00

competition. But that first step quickness is

57:03

just so good, Peter, he is. I think

57:05

this is the definition of a better pro than college

57:07

player. So I'll go Chop Robinson.

57:09

There, Chop Robinson.

57:10

It is okay.

57:11

I'm gonna go with another Robinson

57:13

on the defensive line for the Arizona Cardinals twenty

57:15

seven. I'm gonna go Darius Robinson,

57:18

who is a I don't would you call him a rising prospect.

57:20

I guess like he's been there for a long time. He's not at

57:22

all. But like in our world, all of a sudden,

57:24

I'm being told he's a surefire first round pick.

57:26

Yeah, I think the sky screens first round picked Peter. He's

57:29

just the total package. Is the defensive lineman, right,

57:31

He's not just an edge rusher, not just a defensive

57:33

tackle. He spends much of his early

57:35

portions of his time at Missouri, his defensive

57:38

tackle transformed, his body dropped some weight, and

57:40

he became an edge player. He did not dominate the combine

57:43

in part because he's still got some defensive tackle

57:45

body on him, but had a

57:47

great season this past year for the Tigers. Part of

57:49

that really really good defense obviously had a

57:52

total, dominant, totally dominant Pro

57:54

Day as well, which again people will

57:56

say, what the heck is a pro day worth? Well, every

57:58

team is either there or watching it on total

58:01

and I'm just telling you I've gotten feedback on that prote

58:03

that it was awesome. So Darius

58:05

Robinson's tapes has first round pick, and I think

58:07

that other parts of the process have also said

58:09

first round pick. Love it for Arizona

58:12

at number twenty seven, and

58:14

the Bills I think just maybe want a lottery

58:16

here, Peter right, I mean to get either

58:18

Brian Thomas or Mitchell make

58:20

twenty eight. I don't know though. Brian Thomas Jr. I have one

58:23

spot. I had one whole spot. I had him on the big board.

58:26

An Ady Mitchell with Brian Thomas Jr. Such

58:28

a great accelerator at the second level, had

58:30

over seventeen yards to catch last year, had seventeen

58:32

receiving touchdowns that led FBS.

58:35

The guy's second gear is just so special. And of

58:37

course when you have I don't know about the strongest

58:39

arm, but certainly on the short list for strongest arms.

58:42

Now that Anthony Richardson is in the league and a couple

58:44

of other guys, that strong arm competition

58:46

would be fascinating. But with Josh Allen's arm strength,

58:49

eighty Mitchell or Brian Thomas Junior

58:51

would work. Give me Brian Thomas Jr.

58:53

It would everyone be just gobsmacked

58:55

if lat buck Conki went before Brian Thomas.

58:57

This is what I'm saying. Sometimes it's just

58:59

fit like.

59:00

Yeah, but for the Rams, I wouldn't be at all right.

59:02

Rams.

59:03

I mean just in the same way that Pooka if you

59:05

placed him in Buffalo. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful

59:08

to a guy who had maybe the greatest rookie receivers

59:10

season ever, but the outcome is different

59:12

than the system he played in Los Angeles.

59:14

It was just That's what I love about what they

59:16

do in LA is that they're less worried about

59:19

how the league views a player and more worried about

59:21

how they feel a.

59:22

Player and that is exactly the perfect

59:24

transition to a team that has a

59:26

general manager from the Los Angeles Rams

59:29

organization who also took a running

59:31

back and an inside linebacker with two first

59:33

round picks last year, the Lions at twenty

59:36

nine. I can

59:38

go a million ways here. I'm

59:41

going to say the Lions take kool Aid

59:43

McKinstry twenty nine.

59:45

Yeah. Yeah, Alabama corner has had

59:47

a good free draft process recently because he

59:49

came back from that foot injury, ran somewhere

59:51

in the high four forest and everybody's got a different stop

59:53

watch a pro days Buttery Smooth though

59:56

Peter are really really good, like natural man

59:58

coverage player and twenty pass breakups over

1:00:00

the past couple of years. So when the football

1:00:02

is in his vicinity, it ain't often

1:00:04

caught, which is a good sign there. I mckinshew.

1:00:06

I think kool Aid might actually have a better rookie

1:00:09

year than Terry and Arnold, like just because

1:00:11

of the experience and just getting him out there,

1:00:13

and it feels like he might even be more pro ready to

1:00:15

take on number one wide receivers. And I feel like

1:00:17

the Lions like that defensive backfield.

1:00:19

They could use another guy, Yeah, they could use one

1:00:21

more guy and the Ravens in that defensive

1:00:23

backfield. Still, I think you know a body short

1:00:25

there, so I will go with So

1:00:28

I look at the big board. I just want to make sure that I'm not like

1:00:30

totally overlooking the players that I have ranked high

1:00:32

on my big board, and there are a couple of names that are

1:00:34

still pretty intriguing there. I can

1:00:36

make a pretty good case between Cooper Degene

1:00:38

and Nate Wigans and uncle Nate Wiggins from Clemson speedy

1:00:41

cornerman ran a fourto eight at the Combine, and

1:00:45

you know, I just I think

1:00:47

there's a little bit of a fool's errand and focusing

1:00:49

too much on one play, one series for one game.

1:00:52

But I've talked about this a bit with kuyper

1:00:54

Is. There are two separate occasions this past year

1:00:56

where Nate Wiggins was

1:00:58

like out of the frame of the TV and

1:01:01

a running back was off to the races for what

1:01:03

would be an easy touchdown and Wiggins, with

1:01:05

that four too eight speed caught them on both occasions.

1:01:07

One time he forced to fumble against North

1:01:09

Carolina that resulted in the touchback. Another

1:01:11

time he forced to fumble the one yard line by Miami

1:01:14

running back that was recovered by Miami. But

1:01:16

you know it became a jump ball for being

1:01:18

a touchdown or a touchback. So Nate

1:01:20

Wiggins, I thought championship efforts showed up

1:01:22

on a couple of different occasions that speed really applied.

1:01:25

So he goes to the Ravens to pick thirty.

1:01:27

Okay, I dig that pick right now. There's

1:01:29

a bunch of names that are on the board. We got two

1:01:31

teams left all the.

1:01:35

Sorry they really get.

1:01:37

Oh and you're still talking.

1:01:38

Ad Mitchell still out baby worthy, Ady

1:01:40

Mitchell. Those are the names, yep.

1:01:42

Yeah, And you know you could always

1:01:44

just say, hey, give me the next offensive lineman Jordan

1:01:46

Morgan. Of course we said, we said. Zach Fraser

1:01:48

still on the board out of West Virginia. He's tough.

1:01:51

You know what, I'm gonna go, Zach Fraser, four

1:01:53

time All State wrestling

1:01:56

champion, inside offensive lineman,

1:01:58

nothing flashy. Forty nine ers take Zach

1:02:00

Fraser over all those wide receiver

1:02:02

prospects, just to cause great

1:02:05

madness amongst the forty nine faith. Well, that's

1:02:07

just what I'm doing. I'm going offensive line and tough,

1:02:09

gritty guy who they're going to

1:02:11

just continue to protect Rock Berdy with.

1:02:13

By the way, this team does what it wants

1:02:16

in the draft, right, Yeah, the four nine ers are not Beholden's

1:02:18

to you know, mind mock drafts, your mock draft,

1:02:21

right, They're going to do what they want to do. And if that means

1:02:23

taking a you know, a center

1:02:25

at thirty one, that somethink might be available at

1:02:27

forty one, so be it. They don't care.

1:02:28

What do you make as Zach Frasier because everyone loves

1:02:30

the kid, but no one has them in the first round. I just said,

1:02:33

screw it.

1:02:33

I like him. Yeah, so he went is at

1:02:35

the Big twelve pro Da. I mean he's

1:02:37

the toughest player in the draft. There's no two ways

1:02:39

about that, right. Wrestling background, everybody knows

1:02:41

the story by now. Final play for him at West

1:02:43

Virginia this past year breaks his leg, game

1:02:46

winning drive is going on. But of course in college,

1:02:48

if you require medical assistance,

1:02:50

you don't have a timeout. It's ten second runoff. So

1:02:52

the guy hobbles to the sideline

1:02:55

to ensure that his team preserves ten seconds,

1:02:57

which is so tough and so impressive,

1:03:00

but that injury obviously impacted it. So he was

1:03:02

at the combine, took part in some portion

1:03:04

of trideline. He tried it, and

1:03:06

that big twelve Pro day didn't have overwhelming numbers.

1:03:08

So I think that's the question is for a center

1:03:11

only, probably a center only. Is the

1:03:13

athletic profile good enough for

1:03:15

every team to view this level? That's

1:03:17

the question mark. I think if he ends up going forty

1:03:20

one, it would be because of the you know,

1:03:22

in that range. It would be because the athletic stuff.

1:03:24

But the question you have to ask is is that a

1:03:27

real reflection of who he is athletically? I mean, the guy's

1:03:29

coming off of a major leggage, so long

1:03:32

winded way of saying, don't know for sure what

1:03:34

the range is, but there was a time

1:03:36

where I would have fought twenty five, twenty six, twenty

1:03:38

seven was where the thing the range started

1:03:40

for Zach Frasier. That brings to the chief

1:03:42

at thirty two. Chiefs at thirty two, And I'm

1:03:44

going to make it real simple, Ady Mitchell, right, I mean the need to wide

1:03:46

receiver desperately, and Adie

1:03:48

Mitchell probably I think he goes earlier than this, Peter,

1:03:51

but it is that's

1:03:54

a heckic there. I mean, I don't know they've

1:03:56

been so money in the draft recently that I'm going

1:03:58

to whoever they pick, I'm going to probably.

1:04:00

Just be totally to say plus, great pick,

1:04:03

great value.

1:04:04

You know, there is pressure in the sense that they need

1:04:06

some of these guys to perform, to continue

1:04:08

to fill holes that they you know, that are created

1:04:10

when they lose players in free agency. But

1:04:13

we've also seen like it's

1:04:15

not they didn't need Like last

1:04:17

year's first round pick barely played

1:04:20

defense.

1:04:21

The defensive lineman out of what TCU out

1:04:23

of Kansas State, Yeah, Kansas State and Uzoma.

1:04:26

Yeah, ever I got on the field. Yeah, So it's

1:04:28

like, yes, you need these guys, you

1:04:30

also kind of don't, right, but I do think Aidie

1:04:32

Mitchell or xavierly Get would be fascinating

1:04:34

there. The only thing I'll add at thirty two, Peter, everybody

1:04:37

talks about the possibility of teams trading up into

1:04:39

the back and back quarterbacks. I'll

1:04:41

highlight this, how about the

1:04:43

potential for a wide receiver trade up? Right,

1:04:45

You've got Caroline at thirty three knowing it at

1:04:47

thirty four, bodd for

1:04:49

wide receivers if they start to see that run

1:04:51

happening, or if one of those guys falls a little

1:04:54

bit wouldn't be. I don't have intel

1:04:56

on either of those teams. I am simply using

1:04:58

logic and noting that you really need

1:05:00

a wide receiver and at some point that drop off takes

1:05:02

place. Do you say, hey, take our

1:05:04

third to go from thirty

1:05:07

four to twenty six or thirty

1:05:09

three out of twenty five and

1:05:11

get that preferred wide receiver target. I don't

1:05:13

remember. I'm trying to.

1:05:14

I mean you both both of us are Encyclopedia's.

1:05:16

Obviously we've seen the trade back into

1:05:18

the first for quarterback a million times. I

1:05:21

don't have a recollection of like, oh, thirty

1:05:23

one or thirty two, like we need to trade up to get

1:05:25

a wide receiver. Do you have anyone that you can remember

1:05:27

that that was the guy?

1:05:29

Okay, let me say. I don't think I can recall a

1:05:31

wide receiver trade up, but I want to say, and

1:05:33

I'm going to try to pull this up on the fly here through

1:05:35

Google. Do I recall Tampa

1:05:37

moving up for a late round

1:05:40

first late first round offensive

1:05:42

lineman a few years back? That maybe maybe

1:05:45

a misrecollection there, No, that sounds

1:05:48

right.

1:05:48

Think it was the guy from

1:05:51

No, No, it was because they took they

1:05:53

took the big kid out of.

1:05:56

What's his name, Logan Hall who

1:05:59

this was a couple of years ago.

1:05:59

Yes, and then the first pick they took the other

1:06:02

kid who I sound like. I'm just like, was

1:06:06

it feat of they took with like the thirteenth

1:06:08

pick, and then that one.

1:06:09

They took early. Yes. Let me just see if I can get this correctly.

1:06:11

This may be wrong.

1:06:12

Okay, if they have a second second, here, there

1:06:15

we go.

1:06:15

I had it backwards. It was Tampa they moved back.

1:06:17

It was the year that Jacksonville moved up from thirty

1:06:19

three to twenty seven from Devin Lloyd, the wide

1:06:21

receiver. I'm part of the linebacker, so got

1:06:24

it. I don't know why I said wide receiver there from

1:06:26

Utah.

1:06:27

Yes, and Jacksonville took that was Taevon Walker

1:06:29

their first overall picks and they had Walker.

1:06:31

Yep, exactly, so they think, Okay, three first round

1:06:33

picks that year? Am I making that up?

1:06:35

Gosh, Peter, for guys who take this from did

1:06:37

it? ETN was the year before which Trevor Lawrence.

1:06:40

I'm sorry, they had back to back years with two first

1:06:42

round picks. It was Etn Lawrence and then they had

1:06:44

Walker and also Devin Lloyd. There so a

1:06:46

lot of capital there in Jacksonville

1:06:48

to work with.

1:06:50

All Right, I love what we just did. It

1:06:52

was one great yeah, real quick

1:06:54

for the listener. Should we should we? Just?

1:06:57

Should?

1:06:57

We just rattle it off?

1:06:58

Do you have your list in front of all the picks?

1:06:59

Or no? I do? I got it all right, So go

1:07:01

back if you.

1:07:02

Go first, Kayleb Williams.

1:07:03

Kaler Williams so. The Chicago Bears number.

1:07:05

One, number two, Washington Jaiden

1:07:07

Daniels.

1:07:08

Number three, The Patriots Drake May number

1:07:10

four. The Giants trade up and get JJ McCarthy

1:07:13

number five. The Chargers Dan Patt and take Marvin

1:07:15

Harrison Junior number six. Arizona

1:07:18

trades back and still gets Roma doonza Ana

1:07:20

number seven. Things get spicy. The Saints trade ups

1:07:22

take Malik Neighbors number seven. Meeting Tennessee

1:07:24

moves back to fourteen.

1:07:26

Number eight Atlanta, Rahim Morris's

1:07:29

first pick as a new head coach of

1:07:31

the Falcons takes Dallas Turner defensive

1:07:33

end at Alabama.

1:07:34

And number nine. The Chicago Bears Stan Patt

1:07:36

and take Troy Futon Tanu A little bit of disruptive

1:07:38

pick there from the University of Washington.

1:07:41

Jets go with ten and stay where they

1:07:43

are, and they take the tight end brock Bowers out

1:07:45

of Georgia.

1:07:46

Vikings don't move up, so they take Leatu Latu,

1:07:48

the awesome ed rusher from UCLA.

1:07:51

Number twelve, the Denver Broncos, with

1:07:53

the number one offensive tackle prospect

1:07:55

and a lot of teams boards sitting on the board, they take

1:07:57

Joe alt out of Notre Dame.

1:07:59

Alrighty, and the Raiders at number thirteen

1:08:01

take Michael Pennis Junior.

1:08:04

I love that, and that's where it.

1:08:06

Tom Talco, you dog, he's

1:08:09

the most unpredictable GM in the f IS.

1:08:11

It's yes, it's great. He's a hard gear after

1:08:14

years. That's a hat tip to him, by

1:08:16

the way it is.

1:08:16

And they and say what you want about the Chargers

1:08:19

win losses. Over the last decade, their first round

1:08:21

picks have been absolutely money.

1:08:23

Uh fourteen the Titans. They trade back

1:08:25

and they get Tally Tally fu

1:08:28

Wanga. I was told to make it an enng like

1:08:31

like to Popago violo. So

1:08:33

it's Tali fu Wanga offensive

1:08:35

tackle Oregon State.

1:08:36

Okay, it is noted now Tali fu

1:08:38

Wanga.

1:08:39

All right?

1:08:39

So fifteen Indianapolis Colts quin Mitchell

1:08:42

cornerback from Twedo.

1:08:44

Great sixteen Seahawks, Olo

1:08:46

Olu Fashanu, offensive tackle

1:08:48

slash whatever you need them to be, Penn State.

1:08:51

And then you go right back to the well because you're this

1:08:53

is our flip our roll our odds

1:08:55

to Evans reversal.

1:08:56

Here seventeen Jacksonville Jaguars.

1:08:58

They select Arry and Arnold cornerback

1:09:00

out of Alabama.

1:09:02

Eighteen. My personal apology tour begins.

1:09:04

The Bengals take a Marius JC. I

1:09:06

hate them after previously taking imperious

1:09:08

myths. Jac Latham is the pick confirmed at number

1:09:10

eighteen.

1:09:11

Would you be shocked if that was the order of the offensive

1:09:13

tackles? If it went then I go through it here? Yeah,

1:09:16

Batanu okay, then

1:09:18

Joe Alt, then Fuaga,

1:09:21

then Fashanu and then going

1:09:24

with Latham all the way down there as the fifth one take

1:09:26

And would you be shocked?

1:09:27

Or there are some massive, massive

1:09:29

grades on Jac Latham around the NFL, Peter, so

1:09:31

I would be surprised. But

1:09:33

those massive grades may not necessarily

1:09:36

be held by teams that are in a position to make

1:09:38

those first picks of the offensive

1:09:40

tackles.

1:09:41

Yeah, he could be

1:09:43

the I heard he could be the first one taken.

1:09:45

I mean, so it could be anywhere, So we haven't fit. That's

1:09:47

just the draft. That's how it goes. Sorry, that's

1:09:50

what it is.

1:09:51

Number nineteen Spice

1:09:54

Tour.

1:09:54

This is where screw it. Ladi

1:09:56

McConkie. Come at US wide receiver, Georgia.

1:09:59

Lad McConkie, love it, great player, four, three,

1:10:01

nine and forty. The guy can absolutely fly. Graham Barton

1:10:03

goes twenty to the Pittsburgh Steelers meat

1:10:05

potatoes film that center film

1:10:08

in at center. Right away we run.

1:10:10

Number twenty one Byron Murphy,

1:10:12

defensive tackle out of Texas.

1:10:15

That one feels just too good to ignore.

1:10:17

No Christian Milkins anymore. Our number twenty two

1:10:19

Eagles on the clock. They take Amarius Mims,

1:10:21

who again got through the grips of the Bengals

1:10:24

because they took jac.

1:10:25

Lath all right. Twenty three the Vikings.

1:10:28

I don't gonna say they're settling, but they get the fifth

1:10:30

quarterback off the board, bow Nick our sixth

1:10:32

bo Nick's quarterback out of Oregon.

1:10:34

Bo's got good tape, man. I

1:10:36

get it. People are gonna want the guy in the first

1:10:38

five picks, and I understand that I would too. But Bo's

1:10:41

got some good tape. Tyler got in twenty fourth overall

1:10:43

of the Cowboys' potential to play left

1:10:45

tackle or right tackle, but they

1:10:47

got Terrence Steele there, so he settled in it left.

1:10:50

Twenty five Jared Verse to the Packers

1:10:52

Florida State.

1:10:53

Yeap, and then chop Robinson twenty six, So back

1:10:55

to back ed rushers. He goes to the Buccaneers, who

1:10:57

still have the need opposite of Joe

1:11:00

Tryon Trianca.

1:11:01

Yes, let's go back to back to back defensive

1:11:03

lineman. Arizona Cardinals select Darius

1:11:05

Robinson Adam.

1:11:06

Yeah, I talk about some good tape right there. All right, So

1:11:09

twenty eight Buffalo Bills take Brian Thomas,

1:11:11

junior wide receiver from LSU to pair with

1:11:13

Josh Allen.

1:11:14

If he falls to twenty eight, you say that's crazy.

1:11:16

It happens, guys, twenty does happen?

1:11:18

Yeah.

1:11:18

The Lions take kool Aid mckinstrey

1:11:21

defensive back out of.

1:11:22

Alabama, number thirty. So

1:11:24

again we were in running we are in cornerback run

1:11:27

territory. Nate Wiggans goes from Clemson to the

1:11:29

Baltimore Ravens, who need offensive line and cornerback.

1:11:31

Helpt and thirty one,

1:11:33

I said, screw it. The forty nine ers take a

1:11:36

center coming off a broken leg. Zach Frasier

1:11:39

at O West Virginia, Yep.

1:11:40

Can never. It's never toally to look ahead,

1:11:42

especially when you have an investment that could be amongst

1:11:44

the highest paid players in the league next year. In brock

1:11:46

Purty. And then thirty two, the Chiefs wrap things up

1:11:49

with Ady Mitchell. Personal apologies

1:11:51

for me, Peter go to Cooper Degen, the

1:11:53

highest rated player on my board that did not go

1:11:55

in the first round.

1:11:57

And personal apology to me is to Jordan

1:11:59

Morgan who put the hat on and everything

1:12:01

and still did not go in our

1:12:04

first round. Guys, that is our first round fields

1:12:07

ninety minutes of just just juice.

1:12:09

I loved it, dude, you are so great at what you

1:12:11

do. I'm wishing you need so much luck. Over

1:12:14

the next ten days, you're gonna have a blast, and I'll be

1:12:16

watching obviously, and maybe we're

1:12:18

sets are sort of near each other. We can give a

1:12:20

little fifth pound, like you know.

1:12:21

I love I would love to do it. Yeah, No, I love how

1:12:23

much I love how much the draft

1:12:26

means to you, and I admire the heck out of your process

1:12:28

and all that you do. And I'm glad that Good

1:12:30

Morning Football will be on the air during the draft

1:12:33

because fans strongly deserve your

1:12:35

and the entire panels insight for that. That great

1:12:37

I mean to me, the you know, the second best event

1:12:39

on the entire NFL calendar, behind only

1:12:41

the super Bowl, which may sound sacrilegious. I

1:12:44

might go, I might, I might go.

1:12:46

Draft combine then super Bowl.

1:12:48

That's not much. You love it, that's dedication

1:12:50

to it.

1:12:50

Love it great, Field, Yates, You're

1:12:53

the man. Thank you so much.

1:12:54

Thank you, Peter.

1:12:57

So there you go, guys. Hopefully you are

1:12:59

on a commute or you're on a run or a jog,

1:13:01

or you broke it up with the two spots like that is

1:13:04

just content. That is just juice.

1:13:06

And Field is great at what he does. You could

1:13:08

watch him on ABC's coverage the first

1:13:10

two nights and then ESPN's coverage

1:13:13

on day three. I encourage

1:13:15

you to do so, flip around. I'll be over on

1:13:17

NFL network. But there's

1:13:19

so much good draft coverage. Field is one

1:13:21

of the greats, and he's really coming

1:13:23

into his own. I love when we do that.

1:13:25

I mean, I'll be honest, I didn't

1:13:27

have Michael Pennox in my first round of my mock draft. He's

1:13:29

got him going thirteenth over all of the Raiders. That's

1:13:32

the beauty of this thing. The two of us are as plugged in as anybody,

1:13:34

and that's how different it can be. I'm

1:13:37

gonna do one more of these, I think this week we're working on.

1:13:39

It might be with Daniel Jeremiah, it might be with

1:13:41

somebody else, but I feel like this is what you guys

1:13:43

want from what I'm hearing from all the

1:13:45

feedback on the podcast. You liked these last

1:13:48

year, We'll keep on doing them this year up until draft.

1:13:50

It's a simulation, it's an exercise, but it also informs

1:13:52

you on a lot of these guys. I got about fifty nuggets

1:13:54

from players that I didn't know just

1:13:57

listening to Field Talk. The Roma Dunesday

1:13:59

stuff was terrific. And of course you

1:14:01

talk about Quinny on Mitchell being described as a

1:14:03

genius. I had not heard that. I

1:14:05

love that. I will add that to my repertoire and

1:14:08

I will consider that as a good info to

1:14:10

share moving forward. But there you go.

1:14:13

More draft stuff and on behalf of Aaron

1:14:15

Wang Kaufman who's been just fantastic and flexible

1:14:18

around my schedule. And Chason English and everybody

1:14:20

at the NFL network, and in this case, I guess

1:14:22

ESPN. We're all hands on board

1:14:24

here. The NFL Draft is one

1:14:27

of my favorite events, and I want to make sure you guys

1:14:29

are as well informed as possible

1:14:31

until next time. This is the Season Peter

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