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What's Up, everybody, Greetings from Detroit,
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Michigan. That we are in a hotel room
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right now in downtown Detroit,
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about five minutes away from the NFL Draft
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Theater. And it is approximately
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three pm Eastern on Wednesday,
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which is just over twenty four hours
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away from the NFL Draft's
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first round. And I put this tweet
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out yesterday that
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I think there's gonna be a lot of trades. I doubled
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down today with a tweet
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that I said, I referenced it on Pat McAfee.
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I think we might get ten trades in the first
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round. And that's because everybody
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I'm talking with is like, Oh, this team's trading up,
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that team's trading back, this team's looking to trade up, this team's
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trading to trade back. I figured
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this podcast episode, if
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you're listening, you just want content, content content.
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I'm not on television at the moment,
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so let's do it over podcasts and just empty
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the notebook. It's going to be rather
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quick compared to the hour
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long interviews we've had with coaches and coordinators
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in the past, but this is our latest
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thinking as of around three o'clock
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on Wednesday. And if you're listening to this at the gym
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on Wednesday night, and I know that's optimistic assuming
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people go to the gym. I always
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say the gym, but I really mean as
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you're sitting at home playing video games
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with this on, or driving in a car in traffic.
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Here's some things to note, and I'll go
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through it team by team, and then I
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think maybe big picture stuff. The first point I
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would make is that I
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do believe there is going to be close
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to a dozen trades made in the first
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round that would be record breaking.
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I think that this is one of those years where
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there are some quarterbacks
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that teams might want to trade up and down for, but it's not even
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about the quarterbacks. It's about the wide receivers,
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the tackles, and then the few defensive players.
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So I actually think
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it might go somewhat chalk one,
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two, three, four, And we'll
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get into my mock draft in part
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two on this, but as I
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have it right now, I've got Caleb going one to
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the Bears the Commanders.
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I'll open the door. It did get Harry for a while
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there over the weekend, I heard all sorts of stuff
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that he might not want to go
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there, and you know, and then
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it's if you're Washington, and if he even had
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the inclination of I might not want to go there
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three days ago, Like do you say we'll screw
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you, like this isn't free, We'll
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take Drake Mayo, We'll be fine, or do you just
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say, okay, once we get him in the building, it'll
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be all good, because there is no
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doubt. And I'm telling you this is real, that Jaden Daniels
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and Antonio Pierce have a great relationship and
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that whole you know, connection to the Raiders
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is real. But the Raiders don't have them or the
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ability to go up from thirteen to two. So earlier
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this week, Jayden Daniels
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publicist, and I think that stuff Denise White
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came out and she's been an NFL
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publicist for many stars. She's dealt
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in crisis communication. Like I've heard her name
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and I don't know her personally, but I've seen her stuff for years.
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And she wrote on Twitter, Jaden Daniels
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is excited to be part of the NFL and whatever he is,
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wherever he is drafted, he will be happy to be
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part of that organization. So I'm done, like that's it.
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But then if you're Washington, you're like,
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dude, like, we're about to put all of our faith
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in you. New coach, new owner,
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new GM, new offensive coordinator,
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new team president, new Bob
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Myers is involved. And then we just got
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you know, these other guys involved. We have a whole new
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front offense, Lance new Mark, Adam Peters always
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got do we want to start things
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off with a quarterback who says, you
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know, I will be happy with whatever team I go
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to, as opposed to I want to be a commander.
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I see Terry McLaurin and John Dotson, and I
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want to be a commander. I think by
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the time the draft comes, that will all be all
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settled. And I got him going to to commanders.
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Three is the Patriots. I'm gonna give you an analogy for the Patriots,
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because there's been a lot of rumors
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about the Patriots looking to trade back, and
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I even said it on McAfee that they could trade back
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and then still get McCarthy if they trade
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back a little, if they fall in love with McCarthy. Here's
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how I see it, though. Here's
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an analogy I would make and Aaron,
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my producer, you're on the mic right, your
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mic is working, let's say testing. Let's get
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you in there.
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Yep, yep, I'm here. I'm ready for this beautiful analogy.
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Make sure here's it all
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right. There's
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a house on the block that forever just
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has a for sale sign in front
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of it, and it's a beautiful house, and every
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time you drive by, you're like, Wow, that house
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is for sale, and that house is for sale, and they do have
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open houses and people come and looking through. It
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just never gets sold and
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the asking price might be too high, or
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the owners don't actually want to sell it. They just
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like to hear offers and be told what
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this exists in America. That's
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the Patriots right now. I don't
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think they're looking to sell the third pick. I think Drake
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may is fine, is going
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to be the future of this team. He's twenty one years old,
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he's six foot four, he's a great kid. It
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comes from an out sports family. Like you're
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the Patriots. You're not looking at me in
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the top five anytime soon. You're
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not going to have an opportunity to get these quarterbacks.
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You know, as often as you
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you know, as often as they come, take the quarterback.
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I don't care what the offer is from Minnesota. Take
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the quarterback, because say Minnesota offers you
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the eleven, the twenty three next year's
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for so what if you don't have a quarterback, so what
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so what? So at eleven you might get JJ
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McCarthy and and that, okay,
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fine. I think it's Drake May. And
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whether or not Jonathan Kraft is heavily involved
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or not, I think that the
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football people, and Jonathan
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Craft probably included, are like, get the quarterback. Let's
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start filling the building because
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it was bleak at times last year in those home games
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for the Patriots, and with Jacoby
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Brissett making eight to ten million dollars,
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that's a serviceable veteran guy.
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Bring in a rookie Drake May,
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third or all to the Patriots. Cardinals.
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Chalk would have Marvin Harrison. I
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think Marvin Harrison makes a lot of sense. There's your
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Larry Fitzgerald for the next two decades
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if you can get them in there. And it's fine. Where
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things get interesting and where my notes really begin,
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as we'll do a mock draft on part two on this thing.
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But the things get interesting at five to me
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because there's multiple things happening here. One,
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the Chargers will not be taking a quarterback,
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and there's one quarterback left with the
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grade that's worthy of being in the spot, and
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there are probably three or four teams that might be
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interested. So then it becomes a bit of a feeding frenzy. Who's
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gonna be able to go up and get them? Who wants them?
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And if the Chargers are at five, do they
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trade him to the highest bidder? Do they end
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up just taking their guy? Because you could
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end up missing out on a top
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tackler or top wide receiver if you move too far
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down in the draft here. So the Chargers at
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five become really interesting. The other
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little rinkle I've heard, and you'll
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start hearing this more, i'm sure over the next few
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hours, is that as
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great as Joe alt is, who
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is a high school legend at of Minnesota,
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a Notre Dame legend, a Notre Dame, and.
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Was the.
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Consensus top left tackle in this draft,
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Jc Latham, three hundred and
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forty pound maller out
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of Alabama might fit
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what Jim Harbaugh is trying to build. And they already
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have Forshawn Slater as a left tackle, so that
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might be the first wildcard. JC Latham
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being taken to the Chargers before
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Joe Alt and Joe Walt still being on the board.
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I've heard that from a few teams that if you
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look at what Greg Roman's offenses
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have been, if you look at what Harbaugh has done, and if you think
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about the Alabama connection that
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Ozzie Knewsome had and now
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Joe Hortiz, who spent twenty eight years with the Baltimore
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Ravens now comes over and the
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Chargers, there's an Alabama connection there. Could
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JC Latham go before Joe Alt?
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That's something to watch. Okay, more
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stuff there. Would
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they ever trade with the
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Raiders or the Broncos. Probably
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not. I don't think they're going to trade with those teams
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and let them get a quarterback so that they can play
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them twice a year and have to deal
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with knowing that they gave their division rivals
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the opportunity to have JJ McCarthy, which
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really limits the quarterback
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teams for McCarthy to the five spot
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to the Vikings, and does that give leverage to the Vikings?
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Think about the chess game here now, if they're not going
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to trade with the Raiders or
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the Broncos. And there have been trades within the division
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in the NFL Draft before, like Jamison
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Williams was traded from the Vikings
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to the Lions in a draft, and I believe the
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Cowboys and Eagles did one and the deal
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that got Devonte Smith
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like that and Mark Micha Parsons. I think that
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was on Draft Day and somehow those two
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teams did come to terms to a trade. But
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I don't know when you're talking about a quarterback, like
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would the Chargers on a silver platter
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give the Broncos and Raiders a chance to get
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JJ McCarthy. I don't see
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it. Just competitively. I don't see Jim
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Harbaugh doing Sean Payton and the Broncos any
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favors and handing JJ
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McCarthy over. So in that case, it
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really becomes just the Vikings.
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Now, if you're the Vikings, you have
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the eleven, the twenty three, you
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don't have a second, you have a third, and
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then next year I
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don't think you have a whole
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bounty of picks that you can offer. So
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if you're the Vikings, is it
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eleven and twenty three up to five for JJ?
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McCarthy. Well, it sounds like that's the
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bare minimum of what the Chargers would
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want. But if you're in Minnesota and
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you already know that they're probably not going
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to trade with the Broncos and the Raiders, it's a
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game of chicken. It's like, who
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am I betting against? Here? Who am I dealing
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against? And can I keep that twenty
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three and just trade the eleven and something
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else and move up six spots.
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I haven't heard anyone talking about them keeping
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twenty three. That's keeping twenty three.
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They keep eleven, they
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trade eleven, they trade a future bunch of picks,
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and they keep twenty three, so that they have the
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five and the twenty three. They get an offensive,
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they get their quarterback, and then they also that's all. This
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is why the five spots so interesting,
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which leads to six. I put
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in my first mock draft that JJ
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McCarthy, who's gonna go to the Giants?
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They're gonna trade up to get them. I've cooled
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down a little bit on that, but I can tell you they met with him again,
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Like they've had more meetings with JJ McCarthy,
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and he's still very much a part of it. At
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the end of the day. And I made this point
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to Art Stapleton, who does the Giants
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All in podcast. They spent
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their entire Easter weekend in ann Arbor, and I
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say they I am in the brass. So if
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they're going to vote all that time, and they're
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gonna do it on the night before Easter
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and then Easter Sunday and be away from their families,
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and they're all out there like, that's
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not for us, smoke screen so that we're doing mock
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drafts and we have them take it, that's not it's
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because they're actually interested. And JJ McCarthy
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did media today and
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they asked him what team he's met the most with and
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his answer was a New York Giant. So I think
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that's interesting. Giants also
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interesting. Alt might be on the
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board, Neighbors might
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be on the board. But I've got
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a little wildcard to watch for the Giants,
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and that's Roma Dunsa out of Washington.
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I'll say this a dounsay.
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Everyone who's met him is like, he's got the best presence
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of any of these guys. Walks in he's
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character. He's
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all world human. And if you're the
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Giants and you've been through
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Kadarius Tony as a first
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round pick, and you've been through
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some other questionable ones over the years, and
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yet and things ended with Odell the way they did,
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and O'Dell's actually a fine human being. Is something
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about Odell's character just didn't
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work. And you hear that o'donsay is
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all world and is the most you
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know, selfless servant, you
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know polite? Oh does that not
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sort of? I give you a doonsay vibes
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over neighbors who doesn't have that? Right up
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now, I'm not going to trash neighbors because he might be the best
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wide receiver in this draft, and for twenty
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nine of thirty two teams, he might be the first guy
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on the board. Everyone's got
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neighbors. Going to the Giants, I would just say,
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keep an eye on the offensive tackle Joe Alt,
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remember Joe Shane big Notre Dame
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fan growing up, there's Notre Dame tie there. But
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also keep an eye
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on Roma Dunza for the Giants. He
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screams mister giant to me from everything
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I hear, and I think that one's interesting.
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Tennessee. We've heard everything on Tennessee
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from Oh, they might
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they might like all as their number one
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guy. They might like lath them as their number one guy.
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And then I've heard a lot of neighbors stuff. Now, look, they did
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bring in Calvin Ridley, but if you give a
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wide receiver room of DeAndre Hopkins, Calvin
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Ridley, and Martin Malik neighbors, watch out
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seven Tennessee. They can't go wrong,
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or they can trade back, and that might be the spot where
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a team like Minnesota or Denver
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or Vegas trades up. Remember, I
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don't think the Chargers trade with Denver,
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and I don't think the Chargers trade with
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the Raiders. I just don't see it happening.
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So if the Giants aren't
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a team that's going to trade back there, the
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next team up is Tennessee. It's a little easier
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to trade within the conference than it would be the division,
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so that might be a trade partner to watch.
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Eight Atlanta. Everything I hear is
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pass rusher Dallas Turner out of Alabama
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or lat too if his medical checks
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out. And then late in the game, I've heard a little Byron
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Murphy smoke. I would be surprised
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if it's not a defensive player.
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At eight, nine, ten,
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eleven, twelve, thirteen, that's
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where I get all kind of wonky trade
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stuff going. And I think we're going to go through
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this in part two
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of this podcast. If you're going to click on part two, which
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is my actual mock draft, I'm gonna give you a bunch of names
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and where they all are kind of jarbled up here. This
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is where you've got a Doonsay could
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go, Neighbors could go, Bowers
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could go, Latham could go,
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tell a yac Fu Wanga could go, McCarthy
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could go, Penns could go. You've
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got this glob of offensive tackle,
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wide receiver and quarterbacks,
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and I think any of the teams
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could be coming up and down, and I'd keep an eye on guys,
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like, is this where Indianapolis
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jumps up because other teams you know, loaded
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up during freegency and they didn't. Is
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this where a Jacksonville trades up because
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they lost out on Calvin Ridley? Like, does Jacksonville
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move up and say we're gonna get brock Bauers or
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Molak Neighbors the
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Broncos so they have to move up a couple spots. If McCarthy
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starts slipping and they want McCarthy, do the
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Broncos take bow Nicks. If that's the case
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that they trade back a little bit, Tennessee, what
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are they gonna do? And is the eleven
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team Minnesota? Are they gonna be moving up
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down packaging not packaging. I
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think that's where it gets really interesting. So tomorrow night
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that'll be about nine picks in. I
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would say around the Bears
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at nine is where
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it really gets spicy. And then I just
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think it's an avalanche of trades of teams going up
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and down trying to find what they
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can get. Some notes on guys,
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all right, I
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don't have a bo Knicks team at the moment.
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Broncos would be that team. I just don't
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know if they would take them at twelve.
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Other than that, I don't know any other boon Knicks
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teams. I just think quarterback need and
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what is in this draft? So
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bo Knicks could be the
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twelfth overall pick to the Denver Broncos.
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Bo Nicks could also be the Will Levis
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where he doesn't get selected in the first round and we're
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just like, how the hell did boon Knicks not get drafted. I don't
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know where to do with bon Nicks.
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Raiders and Seahawks are the two Michael
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Pennix teams. I keep hearing about Raiders
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apparently had really good workouts
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with them. Thirteenth overall pick seems like the
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right spot. He's the leader. Da da Da da da Seattle.
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At sixteen Seattle their
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offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb was
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Pennix's offensive coordinator at the University
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of Washington. That was Mike McDonald,
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the new hire that was as higher as the OC. If
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anybody knows Pennox, it's him. If he falls all the
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way to sixteen, that's a cool fit. Like local
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guy stays in Seattle, gets
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to go play for the Seahawks, and you know, Gino's
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got one more year. He left to think on the contract. But
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they did trade picks or
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a pick to get Sam Howell, which makes
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it seem odd that they would take a quarterback after
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trading draft capital to get
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Sam Howell. So Pennix, Raiders
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and Seahawks bon Nicks. I've got broncos.
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I'll say this now on this podcast. It might make news.
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I don't think Rams are a Bonnicks team as much
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as everyone is tying them together. Unless Sneed
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played with bo Nix's father,
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Patrick Nicks, and they were at Auburn
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together and that's a cool connection. And McVeigh
16:58
obviously has been searching for a Stafford
17:00
successor, and whether it be Stetson
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Bennett last year or Jimmy Garoppolo
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this year, or whatever else they've got,
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I just don't think they're a first round quarterback
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team. And I certainly don't think they're gonna move up
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to get Bo Nicks. All right,
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Aaron, some more things. We haven't even talked
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about. The defensive back position. I keep
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hearing the Eagles want a defensive back, so I would
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circle them as a potential trade up team.
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And the four dbs to
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look for, and I think the order could
17:27
vary from team to team, But I think you
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got the two Alabama kids, Terry and Arnold
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and kool Aid mckinstree. How I've been described,
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Terry and Arnold was a
17:37
red shirt sophomore, came in as like
17:39
a nickel guy and then evolved into one of
17:41
their top corners and is like all
17:43
world amazing, like you
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know, boy scout, the whole thing. Great. Then
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you got kool Aid McKinstry, who is dealing
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with injury stuff, but he
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is your flashier guy
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who maybe barks a little bit more of that dog,
17:58
you know, CB one mentality. If
18:00
you could have Dion as your kool Aid McKinstry,
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then you could say Darryl Green is your Terryan Arnold
18:04
as far as demeanor and all that goes. Or
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maybe nom the awesome Wall if you will, just
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like a gentleman is what I'm describing
18:11
as ARLs. So I want to say those two guys and
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personalities are different, and the abilities are
18:15
different. And then you've got the kid from Toledo,
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Quinean Mitchell, who will go top twenty.
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I think he's a
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superb athlete. He came
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out in a in an interview and said
18:26
that he wanted to be the greatest MAC athlete, a MAC
18:28
football player of all time. That's Jack Lambert,
18:31
that's Antonio Gates, that's Ben Roethlisberger,
18:33
that's Antonio Brown. But no Quey and Mitchell
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is saying that's me. And
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then the last defensive back would
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be the wild card in this thing. I don't know
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what to do with Cooper Dejeen Aaron.
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Have you seen Cooper dejean basketball footage
18:48
highlights yet? No?
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I haven't watched his basketball play.
18:51
Oh Man went to a school
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of I think a thousand people
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in the town total
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in the school. It's one of those where they had to
19:00
combine like eight different high
19:02
schools to make a team. And he was obviously
19:04
All World Football, All World Beast Ketball.
19:07
Do you have the high school on there? Let's let's give it
19:09
some love here. Cooper Dejane's
19:11
high school is called you'll
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like this one and then we're gonna go.
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Yeah.
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So his high school was called OA BCIG,
19:21
which was like one of those combinations. Give me his hometown
19:23
where he's from, the town of a thousand because
19:26
I think we're gonna put it on the map in this podcast.
19:28
Cooper Degene, uh suit
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Falls, No, it's not suit Falls.
19:33
He might have been born there. Where did he grow up?
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Odiball?
19:36
There we go. Tell me about Odaball.
19:38
Read me a little wiki on odobl Oh,
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gosh it, I
19:45
don't know if there's anything about Odoblt.
19:46
I want the Odobault town of
19:48
Okay. We're going to Odabolt, Iowa.
19:50
The website population as of the
19:52
twenty twenty census was nine hundred and ninety
19:54
four people.
19:55
Nine hundred and ninety four people in the
19:57
entire town, and
20:00
Cooper Degene comes from that town in Iowa.
20:02
It's just farmland, folks. It's
20:04
it's incredible.
20:06
Sping picture on their town website
20:09
is literally farmland. And the
20:11
second is a tractor parade, a tractor. As
20:13
someone who grew up in a very small town that also had
20:15
tractor parades, I know how important
20:17
it is to have a tractor parade when you're a small town,
20:20
and it is a sign of being a small town.
20:22
I'm telling you what we're We're on the website right
20:24
now. There is
20:26
there is nothing to love about Odaball,
20:28
Iowa. This looks lovely.
20:30
This looks very much like Friday
20:32
night lights would be said here. I mean, you've got
20:34
like the water tower with the town name
20:37
on it. You got these picturesque a little bit.
20:39
Once in a hundred years you'll get
20:41
a star athlete in one of these towns. Yeah, that's
20:43
Cooper de Gene. Notable resident.
20:46
Yeah, Jason, give me some notable residents who
20:49
we got one of one. Iowa
20:51
Hawk Outs star cornerback Cooper
20:53
Degene. That's it. That's it. And
20:56
and I think he's a first round pick. I don't. I
20:58
don't know where to put him. I think somewhere twenty to thirty
21:00
two, But like, those are your four corners. So think
21:02
of those guys and Cooper maybe being the
21:04
second round guy. Like, if
21:06
that's the case and you need a defensive back, teams
21:09
are going to be trading. So I've got like a
21:12
lot of teams wanted to move up to get those three
21:14
guys. And I think kool Aid's very interesting
21:17
because he didn't blow anybody at the
21:19
combine or Pro Day or any of that stuff,
21:22
and if you watch the film, he's there all
21:31
right. Some
21:34
other interesting names. I
21:36
think after the big three, the wide receivers
21:38
get really interesting. So I think Rome, Neighbors,
21:42
and Harrison go in the top twelve. Let's
21:44
be generouslet's say top twelve. Then
21:46
you've got Brian Thomas at LSU.
21:48
You got Xavier Worthy the Burner out
21:51
of Texas. Who is the combine workout where You've
21:53
got ad Mitchell out of Texas. You've got
21:55
Lad McConkie, you got Xavier Legette,
21:59
and you look at Keon Coleman at
22:01
a Florida State kind of a bigger body. I
22:04
think those are your wide receiver names
22:07
that would go in the first round. You might
22:09
have another guy, you might have a Ricky
22:11
Piersoll, you might have Franklin, Troy
22:13
Franklin. I think those guys are probably secondard.
22:15
But what's interesting is this in
22:18
that twenty to thirty two, You've
22:20
got Steelers who might need a wide receiver.
22:23
You've got Lions who might need a wide receiver.
22:26
You've got the Cowboys who might
22:28
need a wide receiver. You've got an
22:31
Arizona Cardinals team that's probably taken
22:33
a wide out at four, but like, if they can get two
22:35
wideouts, they'll be their top one and two wide
22:37
outs. Buffalo definitely needs a wide
22:40
receiver. Baltimore could
22:42
be in wide receiver zone because of Odell's
22:45
departure. Forty nine Ers could be wide
22:47
receiver. Rams could be wide receiver. And
22:49
then I'll tell you what's really interesting. Thirty
22:52
three are the Carolina Panthers. They're likely going to
22:54
take a receiver. They have no receiving you help
22:56
whatever. If you jump thirty
22:58
three and you get to thirty two, you
23:00
get that wide receiver for
23:03
five years, not four. So you get them under
23:06
contract for five years, which is a
23:08
really interesting prospect. And so you look at
23:10
teams who might have wide receiver
23:12
needs and say, okay, take someone else.
23:15
You know, say the Patriots, for example, they
23:17
need a quarterback, but
23:19
they're desperate at wide receiver. Do they take
23:21
a quarterback at three and then trade back up
23:23
to thirty two? Very possible
23:26
if you're the Jets and you don't want
23:28
to Now the Jets wouldn't
23:30
be the right team for the Giants and you want to go quarterback
23:33
and say we're taking McCarthy or alt but okay,
23:35
we're going to jump back in we get five years of Xavier
23:38
Lagett or five years of a d Mitchell.
23:40
That could be all right too. So I
23:43
would circle that Kansas City Chiefs thirty second
23:45
pick, and I would say that might be the spot where a
23:47
team moves up to get a wide receiver. A
23:50
couple other little pieces of gossip that
23:52
I've been hearing. I
23:55
think that Philly might be moving around.
23:57
I think that Jacksonville might be moving
23:59
around. I think Indie might be moving
24:01
around. And here's one that just
24:03
as we're getting onto the mics,
24:06
I think Detroit might be looking to move
24:08
around. Now they made two big signings or
24:10
extensions today. I'm on Rossin Brown and Penny
24:12
Sue. Well, now I love it. We're in Detroit.
24:14
They like hold it till a day before the draft. Little
24:16
news, little buzzler momentum. They could have done
24:19
that deal in the last several weeks, but they waited
24:21
till draft week while we're all here. But I
24:23
find that interesting to hear that Detroit's been
24:25
making calls just to hear, just to poke around,
24:27
what do they need. Well, Detroit
24:30
could use a defensive end. Detroit could use
24:32
a defensive back. Obviously,
24:34
they've had some issues, you
24:36
know, with the back end there, and there's been
24:38
some departures this season, and one of
24:40
those players is having some legal stuff. So maybe
24:43
it's for one of the top corners. Interesting
24:46
to watch running
24:49
backs, I don't see a single running back in the first round.
24:53
I guess Bijeon went first round last year
24:55
and Gibbs went first round. I
24:57
don't even know if there's a running back in the first fifty
25:00
picks. To be honest, I would
25:02
say Marshawn Lloyd or Jonathan
25:04
brook So the top two running backs. But like that, it's not
25:06
even a position I'm considering right now. Safety
25:09
not a position I'm considering right now. Linebacker.
25:13
There's some love for Colson out
25:16
of Michigan. Not
25:18
a first rounder. I don't think my
25:21
whole deal is like I want to get as many first round
25:23
picks, right, So that's not direct HiT's
25:25
necessarily, but I'd like to give you the idea of
25:27
like, all right, if I get twenty two or twenty
25:30
five or twenty eight of the thirty two first
25:32
round picks, that's pretty good. I don't see any
25:34
running backs. I don't see any pure safeties. I don't
25:36
see any linebackers middle
25:38
linebackers. I would have been wrong because I didn't have Jack Campbell
25:40
last year. And then I'm
25:43
not sure other
25:46
than Brock Bowers if we're
25:49
going to even smell a tight end up top. Rock
25:51
Bowers is interesting, another name
25:54
I've heard tied to a million teams, and yet
25:56
when you're doing a mock draft, if you don't have him to the Jets,
25:59
like it's hard to place him. The
26:01
two players that I've been told to have been the cleanest
26:04
prospects by cleanest meaning character,
26:07
health, everything A Doonesday
26:10
and Brock Bowers. Both
26:13
those guys are really interesting. Team
26:17
that I would watch to
26:19
see what they do if
26:21
there's a quarterback slipping
26:24
is the Denver
26:26
Broncos. Do they trade back into the
26:28
first round? If they pass on a McCarthy
26:31
or a Knicks and one
26:33
of them is still sitting there with there be Pennix or
26:35
Nicks. They don't have a ton of ammunition.
26:37
But I think Sean Payton, looking at his quarterback
26:40
room, could go to war with Zach Wilson and convince
26:42
himself that Zach Wilson and Jared Stidham
26:44
and then Denucie co compete. But
26:47
I think you feel a lot better if you ended up getting Bo
26:49
Nicks or a Spencer Rattler in the second round,
26:51
even a name that's been buzzing
26:54
a bit, Byron Murphy out of Texas.
26:57
I originally had him going eighteen to Cincinnati
26:59
in my first mock dround. I think he was higher than that.
27:02
That was some of the feedback I got,
27:05
And then I would just go through the tackles and one
27:08
of those guys is going to be the first one taken. It's
27:10
either going to be Alt Fuaga
27:13
or this JC Latham, who, as we're recording
27:15
this, I'm telling you has got more heat than maybe any other
27:17
player in this draft. I just keep on hearing his
27:19
name come up. Oulu
27:22
Fashanu at a Penn State has a
27:24
lot of fans. I think he's a guy who could play left
27:26
tackle, which is helpful. Would consider
27:28
him a top twenty pick for sure. Troy
27:32
Fatanu out of Washington. Not
27:35
sure his health is everything
27:37
that everyone wants. I've heard some questions
27:40
on that. I'm
27:42
trying to spell his name right here. Faugh new
27:47
the auto correct on my word
27:49
document keeps on changing these guys' names.
27:51
I'm like, no, those are the real names. Relax.
27:55
Amarus Mims is a name
27:57
to watch. Giant, massive
27:59
offensive tackle out of Georgia. Doesn't
28:03
necessarily have the tape
28:05
or what you want, like, that's the upside guy. And
28:08
then the last one I would The two last ones
28:10
I would circle is we
28:14
got an NFL head coach Colin right now, but we
28:16
can't pick that up on the podcast. We'll call him
28:18
back in a second. The
28:20
other two would be Geiton and
28:23
Jordan Morgan who plays
28:25
at Arizona. Those
28:27
are your first round prospects. You
28:30
know you can go through the list. Graham Barton, the inside
28:32
guy at a duke. Darius Robinson
28:35
out of Missouri chop.
28:37
Robinson's a name, the guy who's
28:39
falling, and I hate it for him because I
28:41
think he's a great kid, and I've seen him do the media tour. I
28:43
think Lotso is gonna fall. I had him going
28:46
top twelve in my first mock draft.
28:48
I think he ends up going in the twenties. The medicals
28:50
just are not as clean as everyone feeling
28:52
comfortable. Seems like it all you need is one team,
28:54
like he can go eighth to Atlanta and I wimb shock. But you
28:57
know what happened. He was medically retired with a neck
28:59
injury all season
29:02
or draft season along. I've been told by everyone, it's fine,
29:04
it's fine, it's fine. Well, the day for the draft,
29:07
I don't know if you're taking a guy who was madic.
29:09
I mean, just sucks to hear that. But I don't think he's fallen out
29:11
of the first round. But I don't think he's going top eight
29:13
or top twelve. Before
29:18
we get to my mock drafts on part two? Is there anything?
29:21
Oh, there's a guy Newton out of Illinois. I didn't have him
29:23
defensive tackle. I didn't have him
29:26
in my first round. And I heard it from every
29:28
fan, but did not hear it from NFL teams. So
29:30
that tells me that, like I might be less far
29:32
off on that maybe Newton goes, maybe
29:35
he doesn't. But to not have Newton from Illinois
29:37
in the first round, it's not like I missed on like a top
29:39
ten pick or anything. Pennix,
29:44
like I said, two teams Nicks, I only could
29:46
think of the Broncos, and I
29:48
think of the Vikings miss quarterback
29:51
in the top ten and McCarthy gets taken like
29:53
I think they could take at eleven Penix
29:55
and be okay. I would say this as we wrap
29:58
this little notes emptying session. From
30:01
what I hear and from what it sounds like,
30:04
Minnesota is
30:06
closer. How
30:08
do I put this, Minnesota
30:11
might look at JJ
30:13
McCarthy closer to Pennix than
30:15
they do Drake May, meaning the Drake
30:18
May might be their first you know,
30:20
their their love affair, and it's not
30:22
like McCarthy's right after him. I think there's a drop
30:24
off, and then it's McCarthy and there's less of
30:26
a drop off, and then Pennix. That's how I would
30:28
order it for them. So that's
30:30
where I'm at at three or three thirty. I
30:32
hope that was exciting for everyone listening. As you're
30:35
on the treadmill, I would encourage you then to
30:37
now click on part two,
30:39
which is going to be coming out as well, which is where
30:41
I'm coming out in my mock draft as of four
30:45
o'clock Eastern
30:47
on Wednesday. And of course whatever's
30:49
printed on NFL dot Com on Thursday
30:51
morning and I present on Good Morning Football might
30:54
be different because it might have changed based on
30:56
until I've gotten over the last few hours. But this is my
30:59
my empty of the notebook. Like
31:01
I said, I think it could be six quarterbacks
31:04
taken. I wouldn't be shocked if it was just five. I
31:07
think there's going to be ten or
31:09
so trades made in this draft,
31:11
and I think there are going to be some
31:14
wild, wild moves
31:16
going on from about nine to fourteen.
31:20
That includes the Jets, that includes the Broncos,
31:22
that includes the Vikings, that includes the
31:25
Bears. Like I don't think it's just going to be chalk,
31:28
So take with that what you will. Everybody,
31:31
finish up your session on the treadmill or
31:33
your drive or wherever.
31:35
Else, or your match of
31:37
call of duty.
31:38
You'aying I'm a Minecraft guy?
31:40
Oh?
31:40
Never never played Minecraft? Yeah?
31:42
I have not either.
31:43
Are you into the shoot them up game?
31:44
No? I am notoriously horrible at
31:46
any first person kind of thing.
31:48
What about Twitch?
31:49
You ever watched anyone play video over
31:52
pandemic? I watched some people play among
31:55
Us and great people play. I
31:58
actually watched people play mad in one teacher one
32:00
time one time.
32:03
Yeah, I'm not like, So let me ask you about among
32:05
Us? Is that did they take among Us and then make
32:07
the HBO show based
32:09
on among Us? Yes?
32:11
You thinking about Last of Us?
32:13
Yes?
32:13
Yeah, so that's among Us is like a cute
32:15
kids game where like you're on a spaceship and
32:18
right different game. Last
32:20
of Us is like the gritty zombie post
32:22
apocalyptic thing.
32:23
Got it one last thing
32:25
before we wrap it up? How dumb? Sorry?
32:28
How do I put this?
32:31
Good start? Interested
32:34
to see where this goes?
32:37
As an NBA fan, You're
32:39
gonna put Nick Sixers and
32:42
Nuggets Lakers on Thursday
32:44
night up against the NFL Draft, Like, can
32:47
you wait at night? Can you take Can the NBA
32:49
have some foresight on this and say, you know what,
32:51
the NFL Draft is a big deal. ESPN
32:54
is a partner, the NFL
32:56
network is gonna be airing, Like, I'm
32:58
devastated. I can't watch my
33:01
Knicks play the Sixers Game three
33:03
and I just see the schedule it's a loaded NBA night,
33:05
and it's like, guys, I'm not asking
33:07
you to put up a white flag here, but maybe
33:10
just play that game Friday night of Night
33:12
two as opposed to going up against the
33:14
Jets and the Giants with top ten picks.
33:16
Especially when you have huge storylines
33:18
around each one. The Knicks game,
33:21
like, I mean, the Knicks
33:23
beating Embiid would be amazing.
33:25
Whatever, that's amazing series that you can't That's how
33:28
do you ask a Knicks fan Because a Knicks
33:30
fan is obviously gonna watch the Knicks and watch it, but they're
33:32
also a Jets and Gizon. Then you've got Denver and
33:35
the Lakers.
33:36
And especially after Lebron's tantrum last
33:38
ye, Yeah, that's
33:41
a wild night to.
33:42
Be Uh, maybe we wait on the schedule. Maybe
33:45
we just say, like, hey, out of respect, were the
33:47
broadcast partner airs the NFL
33:49
Draft, We're just gonna kick it. You
33:51
know, baseball for years didn't play
33:53
on like Memorial Day. I don't know. That's
33:55
my take, guys, All right, click
33:57
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33:59
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