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1:02

Welcome to the Sim Cafe , a

1:05

podcast produced by the team at

1:07

Innovative Sim Solutions , edited

1:10

by Shelly Houser . Join

1:12

our host Deb Tauber and

1:14

co-host Jerrod Jeffries as

1:17

they sit down with subject matter experts

1:19

from across the globe to

1:21

reimagine clinical education

1:24

and the use of simulation

1:26

. So pour

1:28

yourself a cup of relaxation , sit

1:31

back , tune in and

1:33

learn something new from the Sim Cafe

1:36

.

1:42

Welcome to another episode of the

1:44

Sim Cafe . Today I'm

1:46

here with co-host Jerrod Jeffries . We

1:49

are here with our wonderful guests

1:51

Collette Laws Chapman

1:53

and Kevin Sterling , so

1:56

thank you so much for being guests on

1:58

the podcast today .

2:00

Thank you . Where are you two calling in from ?

2:02

Hi , I'm Collette . I live in

2:04

South London and that's where I'm calling from

2:06

today .

2:07

How nice Kevin .

2:09

I'm Kevin . I'm calling from just

2:11

outside Dundee in Scotland . Okay , Scotland

2:13

.

2:14

So we're not too

2:16

thick of an accent , so that's okay for us . Right

2:18

now , Kevin , we don't want our listeners to be like

2:20

, okay , what did that guy say ? Do you have subtitles

2:22

?

2:24

I sometimes come with subtitles .

2:26

yes , Well

2:28

, thank you both so much for being here and I'm really

2:30

excited to dig a little into the United

2:33

Kingdom side of simulation

2:35

education and what ASPiH is doing

2:37

. But before we get into ASPiH , of course , I

2:39

want to hear a little bit about both of you

2:41

. So , Collette , would you maybe tell

2:43

us a little bit about your personal story and

2:46

what your position is with ASPiH and what's

2:48

going on in your role ?

2:50

Certainly so . I'm a nurse

2:52

, a registered nurse for

2:54

adult nursing , since , oh

2:57

, quite a long while I'm coming up to about 34

2:59

years and my background

3:02

was theatre and intensive

3:04

care nursing . I went into teaching

3:06

in intensive care and

3:09

focused a lot on obviously

3:11

very interactive learning at bedside

3:13

, and I moved into

3:15

quality improvement and practice

3:18

development roles to develop the

3:20

evidence base for critical care . And

3:23

then over time , I

3:25

was an operational what we call in the UK

3:28

head of nursing , so managed a large

3:30

surgical unit with a high dependency

3:33

unit and 10 wards

3:35

and three out of patient areas . And

3:37

there I was in really enjoying

3:39

teaching , still doing some leadership , and I thought

3:41

, hey , I want to do something different . And

3:44

I discovered simulation and

3:47

I was very lucky I had the educational

3:49

budget for some newly

3:51

qualified nurses and I

3:53

bumped into a colleague who said , hey

3:55

, we've got this new simulation suite and

3:58

can you get involved ? And I said , oh , I probably

4:00

could . And he said , well , you've got money , you definitely

4:02

can . So there , that's how it happened in

4:04

2009 . And I was

4:06

part-time doing some faculty

4:09

development and learning the art

4:11

of SIM and then I was

4:13

really interested in it becoming something

4:15

more interprofessional for my organisation

4:17

some hospital-based simulation , mostly

4:20

for post-qualifying interprofessional

4:23

colleagues , and I've been doing a full-time

4:26

job as the deputy director of our

4:28

simulation service and the lead

4:30

nurse for patient safety

4:32

simulation and anything non-medical

4:34

curriculum , so kind of a

4:36

long journey through .

4:38

Certainly . But I mean , you've touched on so

4:41

many different roles and I'm sure also the

4:43

theatrical background also has

4:46

benefited a little bit as well , in

4:48

probably some of the most different ways than any

4:50

could imagine . But of course the simulation anything's

4:52

possible .

4:52

Yeah so .

4:54

Kevin , I would love to hear the same question

4:57

, your personal story and what you're

4:59

doing with ASPiH as well .

5:00

Well , I kind of followed a similar

5:03

but shorter journey to collect my

5:05

clinical life . As a nurse was

5:07

very much in critical care and

5:10

there came an opportunity to join clinical

5:12

skills team in Dundee and

5:15

I took the plunge because

5:17

I'd done a lot of ward-based education and

5:19

I thought , why not , we'll see

5:21

what it looks like for a few years . And

5:24

on my second day in

5:26

this role , based in

5:28

mind that I'd worked in an operating

5:30

theater for eight years before this , somebody

5:33

put me in a simulated ward to act as

5:35

a nurse . And I

5:37

hadn't been a nurse in a ward

5:40

for at least eight years and

5:42

I had this hugely immersive , stressful

5:44

experience of relearning

5:47

what a nurse was while trying to act

5:50

out this role in a simulated environment

5:52

. And from

5:54

that afternoon onwards I was hooked on simulation

5:56

. I learned the

5:58

power firsthand of a simulated environment

6:01

because I was becoming stressed when I was

6:03

relearning skills I hadn't used in over

6:05

eight years . I was working

6:07

with monikens and actors

6:09

in this near

6:11

clinical environments and

6:14

I could see the way that it was able to determine

6:16

which students were performing

6:18

adequately , which were

6:20

performing to an excellent standard and

6:23

those students that required a bit

6:25

of additional support . So I had

6:27

that sort of enlightenment

6:30

moment that afternoon . And that was 15

6:32

years ago and I still find

6:34

myself being involved

6:37

with simulation and loving simulation to

6:39

this date . I've been

6:42

privileged to work with simulation teams

6:44

across Europe and the UK on

6:47

a number of occasions and I

6:49

think that's what still excites me

6:51

is the power of simulation to make

6:54

an impact , to change practice

6:56

and to help save lives . That's

6:59

the real driver for me doing what I do on a

7:01

day-to-day basis and

7:03

also why I got involved

7:05

with ASPiH . So , yeah , I came

7:08

back to ASPiH in March

7:10

this year . I was interviewed by the Executive Committee

7:12

and invited to join . I had

7:14

been part of the original Executive Committee

7:16

that set up ASPiH almost 15

7:19

years ago and I rejoined this year

7:21

with the support and direction of Collette . She

7:24

encouraged me to take on a commercial

7:26

partnerships and projects lead

7:29

role , and that's really exciting

7:31

role . It's allowing us as an organisation to

7:33

explore some of the collaborations that we can

7:35

enter into with commercial

7:37

partners , with healthcare regulators

7:40

and with other educational bodies to really

7:42

advance the

7:44

utilisation of simulation across

7:46

the UK and Ireland . So , yeah

7:48

, it's been an exciting year so far for myself

7:51

rejoining at ASPiH .

7:54

Thank you both for your commitment . Can

7:56

you help me understand a

7:58

little bit more about

8:00

not to be confused with , and

8:04

how long it's been around and specifically

8:07

how it got started ? I'm

8:09

very familiar with SSH

8:11

, with the INASCL , with SimGhost s, but not

8:14

as familiar with some of the You're

8:16

based in the US Deb . Yeah

8:18

, Chicago .

8:19

We gotta give some love to our friends across the pond Great

8:21

.

8:23

Very much and we at ,

8:25

with an IH , are really

8:28

proud to have close relationships

8:30

with SSH colleagues

8:33

actually who've helped us over the years . Yeah

8:36

, so I suppose the

8:39

itself as an organisation Kevin

8:41

was one of the founding members

8:43

of that it had a couple of iterations

8:45

, I believe before

8:47

that I wasn't involved

8:49

and I wasn't around then , but

8:51

it formed in 2009

8:54

to be an interprofessional

8:56

executive committee to

8:59

create a membership opportunity

9:01

for interprofessional

9:03

colleagues working within simulation

9:05

, and although our

9:08

website address as a UK ending

9:10

to it and at the time it very

9:12

much was UK membership

9:15

because , you know , 14 years ago we

9:17

didn't have such great opportunities like Zoom

9:20

and advances with other

9:22

products that help us communicate

9:24

and liaise more but it's always

9:26

been designed to be representative

9:29

and supportive , to guide members

9:31

in terms of standards of best practice

9:34

within simulation and to

9:36

help create communications

9:39

across different groups . So

9:42

's always supported our technical

9:45

colleagues . There were a variety of job

9:47

titles , but people that help

9:49

behind the scenes , usually within

9:51

simulation . They were either technical

9:53

engineers , sound engineers , technicians

9:56

or clinical skills technicians . So

9:58

we have a special interest group purely

10:00

for technicians and then over

10:03

the years , there's been other special interest groups

10:05

as and when we've needed them

10:07

. Some of them have become dormant

10:10

, but we're currently

10:12

renewing special interest groups

10:14

in areas such as primary healthcare

10:16

or health and care and meta

10:18

debriefing . Debriefing and special

10:20

interest groups just to create communities of

10:22

practice . So I think that was the origins

10:25

of and back

10:27

in 2016 , they

10:30

were able to launch their first set of standards

10:32

. That were as a result

10:34

of , you know , researching

10:36

the evidence , talking to other

10:39

societies and having focus

10:41

groups across the UK to

10:44

have standards of practice

10:46

, and we are just currently about to launch

10:48

our new , revised standards

10:50

, so we're really pleased it's second edition

10:53

coming out , so I think I

10:55

hope that answers your question briefly . I'm

10:57

sure Kevin can fill in some of

10:59

the gaps around that and then I

11:01

can tell you about my role a little bit later too

11:03

.

11:04

Yeah , thank you and I want to hear more from him

11:06

. But one question is so you're focused

11:08

on the United Kingdom or it's

11:10

more global , or has it was it started

11:13

within that and it's kind of transitioned into

11:15

a more hybrid , or can you just touch upon that briefly

11:17

?

11:18

Yeah , thanks , Jerrod , for getting

11:20

me to clarify . So we

11:22

have always been open to

11:24

membership from anywhere , so

11:26

, and we'd love a broad membership

11:29

. But I think because we were a smaller

11:31

place back then , we did focus

11:34

and members coming and

11:36

travelling from overseas didn't always necessarily

11:38

want to come to our conference . But

11:40

it is open and we welcome

11:42

, as I said , colleagues from around the world

11:44

. We do have organizational

11:46

membership from a couple of countries

11:49

and we do have many

11:51

people come and present at

11:53

conference , either as an invited

11:55

keynote or someone that submitted our papers

11:57

, and those people could

11:59

come from any part of the interprofessional

12:02

faculty . I don't think we

12:04

are wanting to take over the

12:06

world , but we have an opportunity

12:08

and we absolutely

12:11

love so our journal clubs . If we're presenting

12:13

or we have a paper that we

12:15

picked that happens to have an author from

12:17

Australia or happens to have someone from America

12:20

or Denmark , or then

12:22

they're invited and they tend to invite

12:24

their colleagues to join in . We've

12:27

really enjoyed , as I said , this whole online

12:29

opportunity . For us has been really

12:32

opening up our networks .

12:34

Yeah , thank you .

12:35

Kevin , yeah , I think , like Collette

12:38

described , the overarching ethos

12:40

about has always been about inclusion

12:42

and it's always been collegiate

12:44

and it's always been very organic in the

12:46

manner that it's developed . And I think there

12:49

has been this sort of natural growth

12:51

and refocusing

12:53

on the mission of , especially

12:56

after the pandemic , because those

12:58

few years where we couldn't meet really allowed

13:01

people to see the value of

13:03

organizations , of networks and of having

13:05

increasingly sort of diverse

13:08

communities , international

13:10

communities that you could reach out and contact . So

13:12

I think last year's conference

13:14

was very successful , our

13:17

first main face-to-face conference . Again this

13:19

year is looking to be a really good conference

13:21

as well . But the aspiration

13:24

of the organization is to be

13:26

with people where they're delivering skills

13:29

, delivering simulation within their

13:31

area or the local area . So it's

13:34

now us taking that next step of how we

13:36

can support people within the areas

13:38

that they practice , through the standards

13:40

, like Collette has described , but

13:43

also through regional activity across

13:45

the UK and , as

13:48

Collette described as well , the Journal Club allows

13:50

us to take that richness of literature and

13:52

experience from international

13:54

colleagues to then be able to try

13:57

that out , to test it and actually to then develop

13:59

those further research collaborations

14:02

. It's that multifaceted

14:04

organization , much like most other

14:06

simulation groups . But we've always

14:08

been very interprofessional , very

14:10

collegiate , very driven

14:13

to make a change and I think the new standards

14:15

will really sort of exemplify

14:17

future trajectory of where is

14:19

going as an organization .

14:21

Thank you , Kevin , and specifically

14:24

, what is your role there ?

14:26

With the NASPE . Yeah

14:28

, I am commercial partnerships

14:30

and projects lead . I work

14:32

with the folks that will be joining

14:34

us in the exhibition hall for the

14:36

conference just to look

14:38

at their mission and vision and

14:41

how that's aligned and

14:43

how we might be able to undertake

14:45

collaborations beyond the

14:47

annual conference that might

14:49

, as I've described , deliver some

14:51

of that regional activity or

14:54

online activity that

14:56

achieves our mutual goals

14:58

as an organization . So this

15:01

role really only came about in May

15:03

this year but it was a real aspiration

15:05

of Collette to bring that

15:07

closer working and collaboration between

15:09

our colleagues who we value in the exhibition

15:12

hall , be they commercial partners , healthcare

15:14

regulators or other educational bodies

15:16

, to really advance simulation

15:19

. It is that impact conversation about

15:21

how we can evidence what we are

15:23

doing at a national and local level

15:25

and those partnerships are central

15:28

to that .

15:29

Kevin , I love your eye for data

15:31

. It's so good because you just want

15:33

to back up everything with numbers , and that

15:35

really resonates with myself specifically

15:37

. But of course , some of our previous guests

15:40

we've had on as well . And Collette

15:42

, would you share as well ?

15:44

Yes , certainly so . When I first joined

15:46

I was

15:49

headhunted , I think , if I'm allowed to say

15:51

, but mostly because they were

15:53

very keen to make sure there was always nursing

15:55

representation on the committee . But

15:58

also my critical care nurse

16:00

background role , I was conference

16:02

director for that organisation for 15

16:05

or years . So I came to be

16:07

our conference director and

16:09

it was during the pandemic for me

16:11

that all our colleagues who

16:13

were anaesthetists because I

16:16

was in education , I didn't need to go on the front

16:18

lines straight away I was able

16:20

to , and I had to step up and support

16:22

ASPiH to keep us going

16:25

through the pandemic , because I

16:27

think we were talking just offline to say we're

16:29

volunteers , so we're . You know , would

16:31

have folded really if we hadn't have kept doing

16:33

something . And it was there that

16:35

I saw the opportunity

16:38

for us to really strengthen

16:40

. As you know , we met so many simulation

16:42

colleagues during the pandemic who were all trying to help

16:45

and I thought well , you know , I really like trying

16:47

to bring us together , bring

16:49

us closer to sharing more . And

16:51

because I had to step up , I was

16:53

then asked would I be interested in

16:56

the president elect and then

16:58

becoming the president ? So it wasn't really my choice

17:00

to come president . I hadn't consciously thought

17:02

of it , but I am the president of ASPiH

17:05

and I'm very proud to say I'm the first nurse

17:07

to have done that predominantly had

17:09

anaesthetic colleagues in that leadership

17:12

role . So it's exciting for

17:14

all of us because we

17:16

do have representation from Alline Health and

17:19

our technical colleagues and nurses

17:21

and doctors , primary care and acute

17:23

hospital care , as well as the academic

17:25

world on our exec and I think

17:27

that's what we're trying to do . So I'm

17:29

trying to show leadership for

17:32

that into professional , into

17:34

collegiate and , as Kevin said , for

17:36

me the vision is we're partners

17:38

. We're partners with colleagues who

17:40

are from industry and commercial

17:43

, be that small startup companies

17:45

or be that those you know , long term

17:47

invested companies like CAE and

17:50

all the others I mustn't name Laurdal , I mustn't

17:52

say them all or whatever . I'll get that wrong . You might want to edit

17:54

that . But also

17:56

it's about thinking for the future . You

17:59

know having patient experts on our

18:01

executive committees we have a patient

18:03

voice , the authentic patient

18:05

voice , whilst we simulate and

18:07

use standardized patients and follow the

18:09

guidelines of our colleagues from . With an

18:11

E , we're working towards partnership

18:13

and working towards being strategic

18:16

, but also at a local level

18:18

, helping and enabling people

18:20

to really deliver high quality

18:22

simulation based care both in the universities

18:25

for undergraduate provision , postgraduate

18:27

provision , but also within hospitals

18:30

and healthcare sector areas across

18:32

our local primary

18:34

care GP practice , that kind of thing . It's

18:38

so great to be working with all these amazing

18:40

people on the executive . I'm very lucky .

18:43

Yeah , and I'm poking around your website

18:45

here too , because you first mentioned the

18:47

diversity piece , which I see from

18:49

2022 , your big push was diversity

18:52

, equity , inclusion , you

18:54

know , in simulation , and then now

18:57

I also see you guys have a conference

18:59

coming up it just actually is that next

19:01

month as well which is also

19:03

focused on succession planning . So

19:05

I think that what you've formed

19:07

on the executive committee and what you're

19:10

able to bring to you know within your leadership

19:12

role , I think is touching upon that very well

19:14

and you're well suited for it . So I appreciate you being

19:16

with us .

19:17

Thank you , it's so great . I'm very lucky

19:19

to be doing it as a privilege .

19:22

Thank you , Collette , and congratulations

19:24

as a first nurse . As being a nurse

19:26

, I can recognize that's fantastic

19:29

.

19:29

I'm even more interested now . Now you guys

19:32

give me all the details here on

19:34

the conference here . I don't know who

19:36

wants to go , Kevin , it seems like it's your role , maybe

19:38

more so , but I would love to hear , maybe

19:40

first from you , Collette , and then I will go to Kevin .

19:43

Yeah , I'll touch on some of it . The conference

19:45

thing this year is around sustainable

19:48

simulation . We are

19:50

looking at , as you say , sustainable

19:53

workforce , sustaining quality

19:56

, making sure there's an evidence base

19:58

for best practice and

20:00

dissemination . But also , very

20:02

importantly , starting and

20:04

one of our new special interest groups that's going

20:06

to be launched at conference is around sustainability

20:09

for simulated practice and

20:12

that's about thinking about our carbon

20:14

footprint , thinking about how we use

20:17

and practice and run simulation safely

20:20

, so we're not cutting corners but

20:22

also thinking about our workforce . So

20:25

conferences over three days . We

20:27

have a pre-conference half

20:29

day I suppose where we've got expert

20:32

workshop sessions on human

20:34

factors , sustainability

20:36

and technical workshop

20:38

, plus a debriefing , advanced

20:40

debriefing workshop and then so

20:42

some delegates will come to that and then

20:45

stay on for the rest of the conference . But the rest

20:47

is over two days in

20:49

lovely place called Brighton . If you

20:51

ever come to the UK , guys , it's lovely

20:54

. Maybe not so lovely in November

20:56

because it's right by the sea , it's going

20:58

to be very cold we're on the seaside

21:00

edge there , but it'll be great and

21:03

we have a number of keynote speakers , including

21:05

Professor Paul Bowie talking about

21:07

human factors and for

21:10

the first time , and because I know

21:12

it's a pre-conference director , we used

21:14

to have seven or eight strands , we're

21:16

up to 12 strands . We

21:18

were overwhelmed with paper

21:21

submissions this year , so

21:23

we have a number of workshops . All our special

21:25

interest groups are running workshops and

21:27

we have well , a sheer plethora

21:30

of them , ranging from anything

21:32

to do with sustainability and workforce

21:34

, but also people's projects

21:37

on best practice utilizing

21:39

360-degree

21:41

cameras and other things like that Typical

21:44

multi-professional conference . Kevin

21:46

knows all about exhibition and a fabulous

21:49

thing called the Sustainability Forum , so we're

21:51

going to let Kevin come in .

21:53

Thanks Collette .

21:54

So yeah .

21:55

Collette will be delivering her pre-conference

21:57

workshop on the 6th of November

21:59

and she'll be enjoying meeting

22:02

some of our delegates and I'll

22:04

be in the exhibition hall working with all

22:06

our colleagues who are coming to exhibit

22:08

. So when she's doing the really

22:10

cool stuff I'll be working shifting

22:12

crates and moving stuff . But it's

22:15

a real privilege to run these pre-conference days

22:17

on the 6th before the main conference on the 7th

22:19

and the 8th , and it's

22:22

also a privilege to welcome those folks

22:24

that are going to be in the exhibition hall because they're

22:26

the ones that make the conference possible . And

22:28

, like I'm describing in my role

22:31

, we wanted to make the exhibition hall

22:33

a very vibrant place , a very

22:35

engaging place , a place where people

22:37

wanted to go and talk to commercial

22:39

partners or just meet and talk

22:42

with other colleagues from across the UK

22:44

or more widely afield . So

22:46

to really sort of bring the

22:48

conference theme together , this year

22:50

we've created a sustainability forum and

22:53

there's going to be three core activities happening

22:55

in that forum and they're

22:57

under the conference sub-themes

23:00

of Enhance , share and

23:02

Improve and the Enhance

23:05

theme that will run on the 7th

23:07

, on the first formal day of conference

23:09

, and that's where we'll get all our SIMTech

23:12

community showing us how to maximise

23:15

how we use our cameras , how we use our mannequins

23:17

, and also to really invite some

23:19

of our commercial partners to come up and get on

23:22

the stage and say this is what we're

23:24

doing or this is some of the innovations we're taking out

23:26

. So that forum is going to be located

23:28

in the exhibition hall and it's really designed

23:30

to create that networking space . The

23:33

share theme and this might be challenging for

23:35

yourself , it's where you've only

23:37

got three minutes to talk about something and

23:40

you'd probably struggle with that time limit , gerald , but

23:44

really we want people to talk about something succinctly

23:46

. This is something I'm really proud of , this is something

23:48

I'm working on , this is something we hope to bring

23:50

to market . So , three minutes to present

23:53

, two minutes for questions and

23:55

then , like Colette has described

23:57

, the new standards are going to get launched at conference

24:00

on the second day , on the eighth , on the

24:02

Wednesday , and then we're

24:04

going to hold an improved meeting

24:06

in the exhibition hall at the sustainability

24:09

forum where we'll talk about the standards

24:11

. We'll talk about this new sustainability

24:13

sig and we'll talk about how

24:16

we as a simulation

24:18

community both commercial partners , regulators

24:21

could take some

24:23

of those standards and actually change

24:25

the dialogue , move away from simulations

24:28

expensive to . This

24:30

is the value that simulation brings to your

24:32

organization . So it is that dialogue

24:34

change of I'm really sorry

24:36

it costs a lot of money to actually do

24:38

. You know how much time simulation

24:41

saves your organization by shortening

24:43

the curve to competency . So that's

24:45

the flavor of what's happening in the exhibition

24:47

hall . I recall with our exhibitors

24:50

today and , oh my goodness , there's

24:52

some amazing stuff coming to Brighton

24:54

lots of VR stuff , AI

24:56

, there's those immersive

24:59

simulation boosters at least two of those coming

25:01

. There was something called a juice bar

25:03

gonna be there as well , but that seems

25:05

far too healthy for somebody from Scotland

25:07

. But there's gonna be a very inclusive

25:10

vibe this year in the hall . We're

25:13

also gonna be doing a daily broadcast

25:15

from the exhibition hall as well . So today

25:17

for to showcase

25:20

to our virtual attendees and also to

25:22

those that maybe can't make it this year , that

25:24

they can still get some of the feeling

25:26

and some of the key messages from presidents

25:29

, from our keynote speakers and from

25:31

some of our exhibitors , just to

25:33

give them a flavor of what's happening in Brighton

25:36

.

25:36

Thank , you , Kevin . Can you share how many vendors

25:39

will you have there ?

25:40

So we were really , really fortunate

25:42

in that we managed to sell out

25:45

our exhibition space about four

25:47

weeks ago and we have

25:49

got almost 40 different

25:51

exhibitors coming to the

25:53

conference . Some are

25:56

just taking one space or others

25:58

are coming with multiple

26:00

different sort of flavors off

26:02

their company that they're going to showcase over the different

26:04

days . So it's been a real privilege

26:07

to work with so many different people and really

26:09

to see those in the exhibition

26:11

hall . Getting behind the theme of sustainability

26:14

, there's a lot of strong

26:16

sustainability coming ideas

26:18

coming from our commercial partners

26:20

this year , so it's going to be really exciting .

26:23

I just wanted to go back to you with

26:25

, after the formal launch , we're holding

26:27

a symposium for

26:30

delegates to attend , but also , more

26:32

importantly , we've invited very

26:34

important UK-based stakeholders

26:37

from our commissioning

26:39

bodies for our professional

26:41

bodies . So Health and

26:43

Education , NHS England

26:45

sorry NHS Scotland our

26:48

nursing with Wifery Council , the Royal College

26:50

of Nursing , and we've invited

26:52

the Allied Health and Medical Equivalents

26:54

to come and help talk and

26:56

discuss with us how we implement

26:59

and bed in those standards across

27:02

the diverse areas that simulation

27:04

is being implemented

27:07

, because we want to make this the journey

27:10

to really try and help produce

27:12

high quality sims so that it's safe for

27:14

our learners , that it's safe for our faculty

27:16

and , of course , helps improve patient safety

27:18

. So it's a pretty big conference

27:20

. We're very excited about it .

27:24

So where can our listeners learn

27:26

more about the conference ?

27:28

Well , we have our own dedicated website

27:30

conference . So

27:32

just type in on any of

27:35

your search engines for www

27:38

, that's ASP-IH

27:40

, conferencecouk

27:44

, and we have several tabs all about the

27:46

conference and also a tab that will take you

27:48

back to our main website .

27:50

Thank you . I'm going to be checking the weather and Brighten

27:52

, though Excited , but we'll see

27:54

. I think it's a . I think it sounds like a great conference

27:56

and a lot of vendors . I

27:58

think a lot of good stuff's happening in the United Kingdom

28:01

and it's with conferences and being

28:03

back in full force . It's always been exciting

28:05

to attend the different ones this year , so I

28:07

think that also lays true with the

28:09

, with an H conference this

28:11

year too . So thank you .

28:14

Thank you very much . Is there anything that

28:16

you want to leave our listeners with or any questions

28:18

that you have for Jerrod and I ?

28:20

I mean , the first thing would be to

28:22

say thank you for inviting us

28:24

, thank you for listening that

28:26

our online

28:28

door is always open . We would

28:30

love for anyone to visit our

28:32

website and find out how

28:34

they can get information for the Journal

28:36

Club . It's open to anyone

28:38

. We're trying to do it in the morning and afternoons

28:41

so that we can meet different time

28:43

zones , because we do have the Executive

28:45

Committee members in Australia and

28:47

in based in Europe . And

28:49

, yeah , I think we hope

28:51

to continue to forge

28:54

strong links with all our colleagues

28:56

. We're all in this together , as

28:58

we have been from the pandemic , but we

29:00

are in this . I think we've all got the same

29:03

vision we all want to

29:05

do a great job . So I

29:07

think all our organisations can help

29:09

people who aren't necessarily well connected

29:11

become better connected to the

29:13

evidence or to people that can

29:15

help them . That's it from me . I'm just really

29:17

excited to have had this chance to speak to

29:20

you .

29:20

Thank you , Kevin . Any closing thoughts ?

29:23

I think it shows the energy and

29:25

the power that simulation has in

29:27

the folks that are involved in this community

29:29

. You know , there's just been the photo of us in

29:31

this virtual room having this conversation

29:34

and we're excited about what

29:36

we might be able to do . We're excited about what we can

29:38

realise and I think very much from

29:40

AspiH's perspective . We're heading towards

29:42

our 15th birthday and we really

29:44

want to showcase that over

29:46

the coming years as we head into

29:49

that sort of celebratory event . And just

29:52

having this opportunity to talk , to share

29:54

, to link in with the global SIM community

29:56

is just a fantastic way

29:59

to signpost towards Brighton and then onwards

30:01

to the bigger celebration

30:04

next year . So , yeah , thank

30:06

you for bringing this podcast together because it just

30:08

allows people to catch

30:11

up , share and be sort of re-energised

30:13

as they go about their daily process

30:16

of delivering some . We all sometimes

30:18

need to have that opportunity to pause and to re-energise

30:22

. So , yeah , thank you for inviting us on . Thank

30:25

you .

30:26

Thank you very much , an . with that , hopefully

30:29

you'll see some of our listeners in

30:31

just a month from now . And

30:34

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