I sit down with professor and theologian Kristen Deede Johnson and talk all about the topics we're supposed to avoid - politics, religion, and navigating a new year and a new administration. 

We talk about why political strife has been going on since the beginning of time, and how we can stay focused on Christ despite the murky waters of politics, unrest, and injustice around us.

Plus...we talk about what it truly takes to love our neighbors, the beauty of having walked through a trying year like 2020, and how to face 2021 with grace.  I was so honored to have Kristen join me on the podcast, and I can't wait for you to listen in.  You can find it at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your favorite podcast episodes.  Listen in today!