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A Greta Gerwig Appreciation Podcast

Released Tuesday, 25th July 2023
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Tuesday, 25th July 2023
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0:18

The podcast critics are calling deeply bizarre

0:20

and anti-man. This is The Social

0:23

Dose. The Social Dose is your go-to podcast

0:25

for a gorgeous dose of what's going on in the world of social

0:27

media. Brought to you every Tuesday and Thursday.

0:30

Today is Tuesday, July 25th, and I'm

0:32

Paris Nicholson, at ParisNicholson on

0:35

socials. And I'm Michael Judson-Berry,

0:37

at MJudsonBerry on socials. And now, let's

0:39

get into these headlines.

0:41

Today, we came, we saw,

0:44

and we partied Barbies. This past

0:46

Friday was the premiere of the Barbie movie, so we're

0:48

unboxing the online, and our own,

0:50

thoughts about the film. Then, big

0:53

news in nerd world, as Twitter users are

0:55

bringing non-player characters, or NPCs,

0:58

to life through live streams. Apparently,

1:00

some of the biggest names in music are avid

1:02

watchers, too.

1:03

All this breaking social media news, and

1:06

more, coming up next on The Social Dose.

1:08

We'll get right back into our timelines after I check my

1:11

phone.

1:14

I'm Paris. And I'm Michael, and this

1:16

is The Social Dose. Michaela,

1:19

let's get into it today,

1:21

shall we? Yes, let's do

1:23

it. Okay, first thing

1:26

we need to talk about, this bizarre,

1:28

yet very intriguing sport,

1:31

I think we can say, known as disco

1:33

foot. That has been brought to my attention via

1:36

TikTok's For You page. How

1:40

would you describe disco foot, Michael? We've both

1:42

watched this. Yes, I love

1:44

this. Imagine a soccer game,

1:48

or a football game, if you're

1:50

in Europe. I don't know why I became Russian for that.

1:53

But everybody stops

1:54

playing soccer at points in the game, and they

1:56

dance. But they disco. They

2:00

rumba, they waltz, they...

2:02

They vogue. They vogue. Like,

2:04

music comes on and they just start dancing according

2:07

to whatever that music is, including the refs. Like,

2:09

at one clip, the ref just, like, sambas

2:12

across the screen. It's

2:15

so good. They partner, they lift, it's like dirty dancing.

2:19

It's... Yeah, there's lifts. This is how you

2:21

should sports. Imagine if every game

2:23

just had dance breaks like this and the teams just had

2:25

to spontaneously start dancing. It

2:27

would be amazing.

2:28

Yeah. This is what the Savannah Bananas

2:31

were trying to do, but they didn't have

2:33

enough gays on the team. So, Savannah

2:35

Bananas, take note,

2:36

you can be doing even more than

2:39

you already are. This is a sport I can

2:41

get into. Oh, yeah, you'd be great

2:43

at this. What's that called when sports

2:45

have men and women? Multi...

2:48

More fun. Not... It's

2:50

like multi... mural? Multi...

2:53

Multi-mural? It's like a pearl. Muriel?

2:56

Are there women named Muriel? My name's Muriel. Whatever.

3:00

It's a co-ed sport. I will

3:02

be finding out if Los Angeles has a team for

3:04

Disco Foot and applying and auditioning

3:07

for that team myself.

3:08

Our social scientists did find some

3:10

of the rules. They are you wear hot

3:13

pants when playing, there are no gender

3:15

divisions, and dancing, mostly ball

3:17

style, is far more important than scoring.

3:20

I like to think that they're just hidden in the

3:22

crowd and the real scores come from

3:24

like the dance competition aspect.

3:26

Yeah, like 10s across the board. That's

3:28

what you want. That's how you know you've made a goal. Because

3:31

they'll like kind of kick the ball and then like nobody

3:33

cares where the ball goes from that point and then they

3:35

just like get down. I

3:38

love this. I do too. I can't

3:40

wait to see the Olympics. Oh

3:43

my god, wait, the Olympics? Let's anybody

3:45

be a sport now. That's actually probably gonna happen.

3:48

Isn't poker in the Olympics like what the hell? Have

3:50

you heard about Elon Musk's latest

3:52

public midlife crisis? Yes.

3:55

And yet another one, how he

3:57

is changing the Twitter icon to...

3:59

to an X.

4:01

But- Oh, the whole brand is changing

4:03

to X. It's no longer even called Twitter. What's

4:06

it called? He's trying to get us to call it X. He's just

4:08

calling it X. So it's like you don't tweet anymore, you X.

4:11

Yeah, literally I saw a tweet today. Actually

4:13

I saw a thread today. You saw an X. Oh, you saw

4:15

a thread, wrote Twitter. Yeah, and

4:17

it was like a thing that was like, tweets

4:20

will now be known as Xs, I guess?

4:24

Which like, what the hell are we doing

4:26

here? Now on one hand, X

4:28

is famously the hottest letter of the alphabet, top

4:30

five hottest letters of the alphabet besties. Look it up,

4:32

already done. So I get

4:35

the appeal of the letter X, but it doesn't

4:37

feel relevant at all to

4:39

what's happening here. Well, I looked

4:42

up the significance of the letter X. Cause you know,

4:44

whenever there's marketing, whenever there's rebranding, there's

4:46

always a lot around like Y that symbol. So

4:48

I was like, interesting. So what are the, so I

4:50

found an article in Psychology today

4:53

about what they think about the letter X.

4:55

Okay. So there's psychological

4:57

implications of that letter. So it represents

5:00

negative, bad or evil things. But the main

5:03

thing about the letter X is it signifies

5:05

an end of something. An entity whose

5:07

existence is over, past, dead,

5:10

gone. X is the most nihilistic

5:12

of letters. So this is why oftentimes

5:15

skull and crossbones or like a lot,

5:17

that's why a lot of like cartoonists jump on

5:19

the letter X. And like when something's dead, has

5:21

little Xs over its size. They also use it

5:24

in the military and X is like the

5:26

zone where they're bombing like X

5:28

marks the spot. Like X is

5:30

not a positive, like treasure

5:32

is the only time it's a good thing. Like it doesn't give

5:35

off good, you know, intonations.

5:38

Like you have your ex boyfriend, like

5:40

X, that's why it's like your ex. Like that

5:42

is the end of something. Yeah, that's what everybody on threads is. Is

5:44

he like announcing that this is the end of Twitter

5:47

as we know it and like bigger changes are

5:49

coming. Like I wonder if it's that.

5:51

Wait, there was some woman CEO

5:54

in power at, oh, we don't have it here. But

5:57

she like announced that Twitter is going to evolve

5:59

into the.

5:59

next generation of cross-platform

6:03

transaction community

6:05

news media. It was literally a word

6:08

salad generated by AI. I

6:10

was like, what are they doing? They are struggling

6:12

and flopping so hard. They

6:14

said they are moving much more into

6:17

using AI on the platform, which now

6:19

makes sense why they let go of three-fourths

6:22

of the workforce. Because they probably

6:24

have plans where they're like, we're going to make AI

6:26

do all of these, but AI isn't ready yet. So...

6:32

This is stupid. I'm still on

6:34

Twitter. No one's going to call it Twitter. Somebody

6:36

on threads was like, nobody calls it meta,

6:39

nobody's calling it X. No, no

6:41

one's going to call X. But I think it's interesting Elon

6:43

tweeted or X'd to

6:46

embody the imperfections in us all

6:48

that make us unique. And it's like...

6:50

Suck a dick.

6:54

Keep it, Denise.

6:57

Nobody wants anything you have to say.

6:59

Yeah. I just need threads to really

7:01

get her shit together so I can fully make the jump.

7:04

That's where I am. I mean, and although that

7:07

conversation keeps coming up, like I was just talking

7:09

about this with my boyfriend, which I know our

7:11

fabulous senior social scientist

7:13

has talked about this as well, where it's like, how do we

7:16

feel about all of the major platforms basically being

7:18

under one umbrella? Like, I

7:20

like threads better than Twitter, but I also am

7:22

kind of uncomfortable with Mark Zuckerberg being

7:25

in control of three of the four major social

7:27

media platforms. Like, definitely

7:29

not great. We've got to break that up a little bit. As much

7:31

as threads, you're fun and I love Instagram

7:34

and I'm an old person, so I still use

7:36

Facebook. But I just...

7:38

I think we have to unionize. As creators,

7:40

we need to unionize. We need to go on strike

7:43

and create a communal space. Well, I mean, like Web 3

7:45

is allegedly supposed to be that kind of thing,

7:47

like very like homegrown, communal,

7:51

but

7:52

everything right now is so privatized. Do we need

7:54

to call in French rusher? Should we bring

7:56

the nanny name Fran in? We do.

7:58

And here she is best. I'm not saying

8:00

that. I'm just saying that. I'm just saying that. I've

8:03

never tried to do franchise before. Wake

8:05

up and smell the coffee. I'm

8:09

here to talk about social. I know,

8:11

I just always become like, Miranda, that's

8:14

marriage. We come home,

8:16

we eat ice cream. That's marriage,

8:18

Miranda. Oh God bless Steve.

8:21

It's a social dose, it's what we do.

8:23

No,

8:26

no. I haven't seen season two

8:28

of it just like that yet. Their marriage

8:30

is dying. I know their marriage. He

8:33

shows butt, he's still giving butt, which is great. And

8:35

I'm sure it's great, because Steve always was cute. Still

8:37

tight, still gorgeous. Yeah, always one of the cutest. I've

8:40

always loved him. And just like that, it's time

8:42

to get into our top story.

8:46

The

8:46

world was looking pretty in pink this weekend

8:49

with the premiere of Greta Gerwig's much anticipated

8:51

Barbie movie bitches.

8:53

And together with the release of Oppenheimer, of course,

8:56

the internet is still going wild for Barbenheimer.

8:58

Michaela, be a doll and break down the story for us. Yes,

9:02

with the writers and actor strike, it's been a

9:04

quiet launch week, but that didn't keep folks

9:06

from going to the movie theaters. Both movies

9:08

turned out massive box office

9:11

draws. I think Barbie broke records

9:13

at the box office for a female directed

9:15

film, which is amazing. We love to see that.

9:19

So I actually did not

9:21

see the Barbie movie. So for

9:23

the very few of us who didn't

9:25

see it, I know, I know the plot

9:27

was very simple.

9:29

Of a Barbie movie podcast. I know. It was

9:31

your responsibility. It has

9:33

become a Barbie movie podcast. So

9:37

Oppenheimer, I know the story of that because they know all about

9:39

Oppenheimer. I saw the stage

9:41

version of Oppenheimer in London a long time ago. It

9:44

was fabulous. And I find that whole thing weirdly

9:46

fascinating. Are we Barbenheimer?

9:48

We are, oh my God. Oh my God.

9:50

You're even dressed for friends who can't see us. You are

9:53

dressed like Barbie right now. And I'm wearing dark

9:55

green. And I have to like, we actually

9:57

are the color schemes. I have dark hair.

9:59

Who Oppenheimer was. Oh yeah,

10:02

I know all about it.

10:03

There was a monologue in the play that I used to use for

10:05

auditions, where he's like, I feel like I've left a loaded

10:07

gun in a sandbox. Great

10:10

monologue. Anyway,

10:12

the plot for Barbie though is, and

10:15

correct me if I'm wrong Paris, this is what I have in front of me, Barbie

10:17

begins to malfunction. So she heads

10:19

to Los Angeles only to end up questioning reality

10:22

and saving Barbie Land. That's

10:24

correct, right?

10:25

That's kind of how I got here, but yeah, that's exactly what happened.

10:28

Okay, so this

10:31

was my favorite thing about this entire

10:33

experience, is I feel like it's been a very

10:35

long time since we've had like a group

10:38

cultural moment, right? I think because

10:40

of streaming, because of, you

10:43

know, social media, it's rare that we

10:45

as a culture sort of come together

10:47

on one thing, whether you like it, whether you don't, everyone's

10:50

talking about it. It's been a long time since that's happened.

10:52

So regardless how you feel about these movies, I

10:55

think this

10:55

is a very cool thing that

10:57

Barbie has done and that Oppenheimer

10:59

has piggybacked on. Anyway, you

11:02

actually saw the film.

11:04

I did. I saw the film. I did

11:06

not. Saw it Friday with one of our

11:09

social scientists. We had a great time. We

11:11

got all dressed up. Everybody was so

11:13

cute.

11:14

Everybody was like the vibes

11:16

were immaculate. You know what I mean? Everyone

11:18

in that theater, we were all best friends.

11:21

The movie itself, I will say for

11:23

me personally, a perfect film. Everything

11:26

I expected it to be, everything I needed to be,

11:29

things I didn't know I needed it to be, it delivered

11:31

on those. I personally give it a 10 out

11:33

of 10. My only note

11:35

if I had to give one, towards the end,

11:38

it does drag a tiny bit and

11:40

it's like a little shaky on

11:42

part of the message. At

11:45

one point, a woman

11:48

or a mother, I don't want to tell you

11:50

necessarily who it is for spoilers, the creator of Barbie, she

11:53

says

11:53

something to the effect of like, as

11:56

mothers, we stand still so

11:58

our children can see how far. they've gone.

12:00

And I'm like, that was like

12:02

the one thing that I was kind of like, just

12:05

cuz your mom doesn't mean your life goes on hold.

12:08

I like what they were trying to do with that

12:10

specific sentiment and obviously we're not focused on that part

12:12

of it, but I would that that hit my ear a little odd where

12:14

I was like,

12:16

a mom can still continue her life

12:18

and go far. But apparently

12:20

that woman didn't think so. Is that real Perlman by any

12:23

chance? It's real Perlman. Yeah. Okay, because

12:25

we love the memes where it's her, it's that

12:27

moment in the movie with that's like a mother. And

12:29

then next to it is hers. Matilda's mom going, you

12:31

chose books. I chose the looks. I chose looks.

12:34

Yep. Sure did. As

12:36

Mrs. Wormwood and Matilda. Yeah.

12:39

We love Rhea Perlman in this house, but

12:41

overall an incredible film. One of those movies

12:43

that like immediately is one of my top

12:46

faves

12:46

of all time. It's very

12:48

curated to the girls, the gays and

12:50

the days. I feel like I

12:52

will be seeing it again on Wednesday and probably at least

12:55

one more time after that before it leaves theaters because

12:57

I loved it so much. It's also so funny

12:59

that you're laughing the whole time and you miss a lot

13:01

of the jokes. So you got to see it twice. Nice. I

13:04

love what you said about people dressing up. I saw a

13:06

TikTok from at greens 69

13:09

who it's her going to the movie and she's all dressed

13:11

up and she did this TikTok and to Barbie

13:14

to the Spice Girl song. Um, wait, it is

13:16

Spice

13:16

Girls. I Barbie. It's a,

13:19

that's Aqua.

13:20

Oh, Aqua. Sorry. Uh, anyway,

13:22

ignore this. But she says, everybody

13:25

dressing up for the Barbie movie is making me so nostalgic

13:27

for midnight premieres. Harry Potter, Twilight

13:30

lined up for eight hours in full costume.

13:32

The commitment, the community bring that shameless 2008

13:36

energy back to the movies. And I love

13:38

that people are saying like, that's what these movies

13:40

did. Like that it

13:43

feels like that great nostalgic, like let's

13:45

go back to the movies as like a crowd.

13:48

Um, and make it a whole experience.

13:50

Like, you know, get dressed up by

13:52

popcorn, like make a whole thing of

13:54

it. And I just love that there

13:56

was actually, that's so sweet. Michael, I

13:59

completely agreed. There was a. There was a moment where we

14:01

were, there's obviously a Barbie box photo

14:03

booth where you can have a photo moment.

14:05

And we were helping other people that were seeing

14:07

the movie. We were taking pictures for them. They were taking pictures for

14:09

us. Just like strangers that were all

14:11

here for one goal, which is the Barbie movie. Some

14:14

of the people were leaving the theaters. They were like, oh, have you seen it yet? Are

14:16

you leaving? They were talking about, oh, it's amazing.

14:18

You're gonna love it. And it was just so fun to have

14:20

an inherent sense of community in

14:23

a way that we really haven't had in a long time.

14:25

You're completely right. It was very nice.

14:28

Oh,

14:29

I love that.

14:30

So go see it in theaters, Michael. You have to see it in

14:32

theaters. I will. I promise I will. As soon as possible

14:34

so you can still get that kind of vibe

14:37

and dress up.

14:38

I will. So people know that you're

14:40

an ally. I will.

14:41

I wanna do the experience of Barbie and Oppenheimer in

14:43

the same day, just to do it. Yeah. You

14:45

know, because I wanna be part of that. I don't have it in me. I wanna

14:47

do that. I love, did you

14:50

see the tweet also that Popcrave

14:53

shared from who's

14:56

the user? It says Danielle, but

14:58

I don't know her name, but she looks like a musical theater girl

15:00

in New York who did a full

15:03

like costume change as she walked through one movie together.

15:05

The reveal. The reveal, yeah. You know the

15:07

source of the reveal. You talked about this one.

15:10

So it's a two in one look. She starts

15:12

off in like full black, like structured shoulder

15:14

are not, what's Oppenheimer look. And

15:17

then tear away belt, do a twirl.

15:19

It reveals into a full frilly pink Barbie

15:21

look.

15:23

Chelsea literally just shit her pants. Oh

15:27

my, diarrhea blowing out of her ass. Chelsea

15:29

turned off my water and they just turned back on. What just happened?

15:35

They turned off my water and then, that's

15:37

so funny. Just

15:40

blowing out. No, they turned

15:42

off my water and then all my pipes made a bunch

15:44

of noises. And I was like, I think that means like there's a lot of that

15:46

coming. Yeah,

15:47

your pipes did make a bunch of noises. Yeah.

15:51

Ah! Oh my god.

15:55

They got your cameras off. This would be so

15:57

inappropriate. Oh,

16:01

my God. Okay. Sorry. And, besties,

16:03

we actually have to take a quick break.

16:06

One of our producers seems to have sprung a leak, and

16:09

we'll be back to finish our Barbernheimer discussion. -♪♪

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Okay, so before the break, oh,

17:56

yes, this girl did an incredible two-in-one look. It

17:58

is a reference to a look...

17:59

that Chachki did on RuPaul's Drag Race

18:02

season, whatever season that was, which was

18:04

like a, it was like a fall winter

18:06

runway and it was like a full black look,

18:09

same exact silhouette, same exact like reveal component,

18:11

tearaway belt to a full tartan,

18:14

red tartan, eleganza.

18:16

Yeah, so this girl is one of the queens. She's definitely

18:19

knows her references and really, I think

18:21

we can say

18:23

best dressed of the event.

18:25

Oh, yeah. This was, and I loved

18:28

the seamless, like walking from the Oppenheimer

18:30

poster into the Barbie box and the

18:32

little twirl in the middle and just becomes Barbie.

18:35

It's so good. And

18:37

I'm looking at those Leduca boots, clearly musical

18:39

theater girl, there's choreography, it's practiced. I

18:42

appreciate this. It's

18:46

the heel, you know it by the heel. Like she clearly

18:48

got up, went to a dance call that morning and

18:51

then went right to the movies.

18:52

Obviously the movie is such a cultural

18:54

phenomenon that we haven't seen in so many years

18:57

that this movie has broken so many records

18:59

already. A lot of people are quoting like, oh,

19:01

it's the biggest box office

19:03

for a female director of all time. Which

19:05

like, yes, incredible record to break, we

19:07

love. But

19:08

it kind of discounts the fact that like female

19:10

or not, the most recent statistic

19:13

I read was that it is the 24th largest

19:15

box office opening ever. Wow.

19:18

Yeah, like it's gotta be then one of

19:20

the biggest post COVID. Like what

19:22

I wonder. Oh, it,

19:23

I'm sure it is. It has

19:25

to be. What's this article, New York

19:28

Times, Barbie box office

19:30

to the world, the pandemic is officially over, la

19:32

la la.

19:33

Is it the highest

19:36

since COVID? Oh, it

19:38

looks like it's the second highest next

19:41

to Avengers Endgame. So

19:45

post COVID, so like. Fine.

19:48

Well done though. Here's

19:50

the thing, Michael, that I need

19:53

to know because this film was so incredible.

19:55

At one point in the film, they like jokingly

19:57

reference that Mattel makes a Ken

19:59

movie.

19:59

and it's the greatest movie, breaking

20:02

all the box office records. And I'm like, if

20:05

we do live in a world where a sequel can

20:07

happen,

20:08

is it gonna be a Ken movie? Because I will absolutely

20:10

watch that. Ryan Gosling delivers such

20:13

a comedic and incredibly, also

20:15

heartwarming performance. If you didn't

20:17

already love Ryan Gosling, it's impossible to not

20:20

love him after this film. I've seen a

20:22

lot of reviews that said this is his best performance

20:24

ever.

20:25

Like, I've seen things where people are saying that Ryan Gosling

20:27

is actually giving one of the best performances, if

20:29

not the best of his career thus far. Yeah, there's

20:31

so many small choices where I'm like, brilliant.

20:34

And we already know that never work a Robbie. We knew

20:36

she was gonna be brilliant. Like, her in Tanya.

20:39

Oh, my God. In I, Tanya. Oh, I loved I, Tanya.

20:42

She's so good at this kind of... When I

20:44

heard it was her, I was like, oh, is

20:46

she as good as we hoped she'd be?

20:48

Oh, absolutely. She gives you everything you need and

20:50

more.

20:51

Oh, I do. So not everybody

20:53

loved the movie. Did you see the...

20:55

People are

20:57

sharing the bad reviews. I just

20:59

gotta mention these reviews. Yes. They cracked

21:02

me up. People are sharing the one-star

21:05

reviews from clearly just like angry stories. From like letterboxed.

21:08

So these... George

21:10

Han shared his favorite

21:12

four, and I will read them for you now. Barbie,

21:16

an alienating, dangerous, and perverse

21:18

film. Barbie, the feminist

21:21

agenda will kill us all.

21:23

Like, we're all gonna die.

21:26

Barbie, they won't be happy until

21:29

we all are gay.

21:30

Like... That's true. That part is

21:33

true. That's true. And that was as God

21:35

intended. This

21:37

is the best one, though. Barbie, a pink acid

21:40

trip that feels like being slapped by lots

21:42

of confusingly attractive

21:44

people. Which, I don't know. That

21:47

sounds like a wet dream right there. Like a

21:49

confusingly attractive person comes up and

21:51

slaps you. Calm down. Like,

21:53

a lot of people pay a lot of money for that. Like...

21:56

Yeah, truly.

21:57

It's a very expensive service in some countries.

22:00

I think it's important to know, because there's this rhetoric

22:03

of obviously right-wing whack jobs, whatever,

22:06

that the movie is anti-man,

22:08

which to me says that you did not understand

22:10

the movie. Or didn't see it.

22:13

Whatever. Ted course has been criticizing it and has

22:15

not seen it.

22:16

But literally the message of it is that

22:18

toxic masculinity is harmful

22:21

to everyone, and men

22:23

don't have to

22:24

abide by the rules of it and torture

22:26

themselves and put themselves through all of that. They can actually just

22:28

be men. And just, that's

22:31

enough. Yeah, it's okay. That's

22:33

fine, but I don't know. Maybe their brains

22:36

are full of worms, the people that are having these problems.

22:39

A thousand percent. Worm brain is

22:41

really, it's a problem right now.

22:43

It really is. It's a plague. I did see a great

22:45

Barbenheimer meme from Medium-sized

22:48

Meach, who I love on Twitter, who

22:50

said, For those planning on doing a Barbenheimer

22:52

double feature, a word of caution. Barbie

22:54

before Oppy, your tears will be sloppy. Oppy

22:57

before Barbie, you'll still want to party. I

23:00

love that. So I think that's what you should do when you go to see them.

23:04

That's awesome. I just love that

23:06

these two ended up getting mashed up because they're

23:09

such different movies. And I love that the internet

23:11

just interneted. It

23:13

feels like this was the greatest thing that could have happened

23:15

to either marketing team.

23:17

Exactly. It's very much giving

23:19

you're at the McDonald's drive-through in the 90s, and

23:22

you're given the Sophie's choice of Barbie

23:24

or race car.

23:26

I mean, it wasn't a Sophie's choice for me,

23:28

but I'm sure somebody out there was really torn.

23:31

Probably. Did you

23:33

see the mashup from at just

23:35

underscore me underscore me?

23:38

Wait, yes, I did. Excuse me. Where they did

23:41

Oppenheimer but done in the Barbie trailer. Yeah,

23:44

that was actually very well done. It was a really clean

23:46

edit. It really is. Bringing like a post-apocalyptic

23:50

atomic bomb. What time period is that? The 50s? Yeah,

23:52

because it's World War II. It's

23:54

a great match up to great juxtaposition. Yeah,

23:58

but it's like, but he's like. in Barbie's

24:00

world. It's like Emily Blunt looking nervous

24:02

and crying, but then Nazis from

24:05

Jojo Rabbit are in there just to push the

24:07

nut that Oppenheimer was fighting the Nazis.

24:12

I think it's just so...

24:14

Like the fact that these two are together is just

24:16

so wonderful. They put pink curly hair on his chalkboard.

24:18

It's a beautiful dichotomy. Oh, that's

24:20

why I think the world just couldn't resist mashing these

24:22

two up because it's just such a wonderfully bizarre

24:25

mashup. I also feel like we need this to happen

24:28

every summer. Like hopefully the money that this

24:30

movie makes lets studios know like we

24:32

need more girly pop movies.

24:35

Actually, one thing I did have a concern

24:37

with was the trailers for

24:39

the movies are always indicative of like the demographic

24:42

of the film. The trailers they were giving for

24:44

the Barbie movie were the most like generic all-around

24:46

trailers, which makes me fear

24:48

that there's not any more

24:50

like cute girly pop like rom-coms or

24:52

anything on the horizon. I'm like Jennifer Lawrence

24:54

is working again. Like show us what her next project is going to

24:56

be. Like where are these movies?

24:58

Where are the Legally Blondes? Where are the Cluelesses? Where

25:00

are they? Hopefully this like

25:03

brings them back into the culture because they are profitable,

25:06

they are incredible, and they are important.

25:08

Yeah. Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox.

25:10

There have been times

25:12

in the past where we have had summer blockbuster

25:15

juxtaposition movies like this. For

25:17

example,

25:18

the year that 10 Things I Hate About You and The

25:20

Matrix came out on the same day. That's

25:24

a fun one. Incredible combo.

25:26

Or 2008 when Mamma Mia and The Dark

25:29

Knight came out on the same day. Yeah.

25:31

Shockingly, I've never seen Mamma Mia

25:33

and I did see The Dark Knight. I was on the wrong side of

25:35

history back then. I was not a huge fan of

25:37

Mamma Mia 1, but I am obsessed with

25:39

Mamma Mia 2. Here we go again. And

25:41

all I want in the world is for there to be Mamma

25:43

Threia. Here we go yet again.

25:46

Like,

25:49

I can't take credit for that.

25:50

That's from my friend Alyssa Maygold. She

25:52

came up with Mamma Threia and I think it's genius. And

25:55

yeah, I thought that was so funny. I

25:57

love Mamma Mia 2. There was another one.

25:59

But with one of your favorite movies, the year

26:02

that She's the Man and V for Vendetta

26:04

came out. Yes, I was on the

26:06

correct side. I've still actually yet to see V for Vendetta,

26:08

but I own two copies of

26:10

the She's the Man DVD in case one breaks. Oh,

26:12

incredible. I was that person. A great film.

26:15

Where are the She's the Man? When Amanda Bynes

26:17

Eats Chicken Angrily, if you put it in slow

26:19

motion, it's one of the funniest things you'll ever see.

26:22

There's actually one coming on the horizon.

26:24

We have another moment.

26:26

Oh, really? In our future, yes, because

26:28

Saw 10

26:30

and Paw Patrol, the Mighty Movie are now

26:32

releasing on the same day.

26:35

And actually I will be seated for Saw 10. Can

26:39

you imagine though, like you take, you accidentally

26:41

don't do that correctly and you buy them for like, for you. Like,

26:44

cause Paw Patrol is for kids, right? So you do a family day.

26:47

And accidentally bring them to Saw 10.

26:50

Oops, that

26:52

would be bad. And this is not the first time

26:54

Saw has done this because in 2008, again, 2008, Saw 5

26:58

came out the same day as High School Musical 3. Like,

27:01

is Saw just doing this on purpose?

27:04

That was a good year. I saw both of those movies in

27:06

theaters. I

27:08

haven't. I'm not good at horror movies. They freak me

27:10

out. Like, Gore, like, is Saw really gory? That's

27:13

fine, and Saw specifically. It's very gory. It's torture

27:15

porn. I can't do gore. I like a good like, jump scare,

27:17

but gore,

27:19

not so much. The extreme gore helps me to remember that I'm

27:21

a human that can feel things. So I like it. Oh,

27:23

well that's good. Well, Michael,

27:26

you can see Paw Patrol while I see Saw 10

27:29

and will compare notes after. Okay, I'll

27:31

have to find a friend with small children to go with

27:33

me though, so I'm not just like a creepy adult alone

27:36

at a children's movie. No one wants to do that. Oh yeah,

27:38

actually. Michael, when you go to the movies, you

27:40

obviously have to bring snacks. And one of my favorite movie

27:42

snacks is ice cream. Ice

27:44

cream's so good. Ice cream's

27:46

so good. Ice cream's so

27:48

good. We're going to get into why

27:50

Michael's talking like this right after this

27:53

break. Remember

27:55

when Kylie...

27:58

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28:01

youngest self-made billionaire and everyone

28:03

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28:06

I do, because I wrote that

28:08

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28:10

to Kylie and Kris Jenner, and

28:12

on the podcast Infamous, I'll be playing

28:14

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28:16

heard, because it turns out they

28:19

may or may not have lied

28:21

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28:23

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28:26

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29:02

Welcome to

29:03

the social dose. Welcome to the social

29:05

dose. Welcome to the social dose.

29:08

Wow, and NPC story for me? Thanks.

29:10

Wow, and NPC story for me? Thanks. Mm,

29:13

less as parrot what they think. Mm, less

29:15

as parrot what they think. But with ya, I

29:17

can't keep that up. I don't know how they do it. That was

29:19

awful. I give up. Michael Vatt was

29:22

terrible. You have no future

29:24

as an NPC live streamer. I

29:26

did my best. And besties. It's

29:28

hard, I think. I imagine it's hard. I, yeah. Besties,

29:31

I can't. For those of you who have not seen this on

29:33

your For You pages yet. For

29:35

your weeks. People,

29:37

we touched on this a little bit last week, but the story

29:39

has only gotten crazier and bigger

29:42

in the past week. So people are live

29:44

streaming themselves, pretending to be NPCs,

29:46

like AI, non-human

29:48

characters. And as people give them

29:51

objects or cues, like a little hamburger or an ice

29:53

cream cone or like a rose, they respond how

29:55

an NPC would. So it's like you're inputting

29:57

the same thing and then they say the same line.

30:00

For an example, if I was an NPC and you commented

30:02

with a shocked face emoji on live, maybe

30:04

my catchphrase would be like, oh no, am

30:06

I showing whole? Oh no, am

30:08

I showing whole? Oh no, am

30:11

I showing whole? Now whenever somebody

30:13

comments a shocked face, I'll have to say that,

30:15

like an NPC. The

30:17

most popular NPC livestreamer right now is

30:20

a user named Pinky Doll. I honestly think

30:22

she deserves all the credit for putting this trend on the

30:24

map right now. Obviously she didn't invent the

30:26

trend, but she definitely brought

30:28

it to a huge level

30:29

that it never would have gotten to otherwise.

30:32

So credits to Pinky Doll, she's kind of a star,

30:34

I'm obsessed with her. And according to a Forbes

30:37

article, she told Vice that she can actually make $7,000 a day

30:41

doing this. She's on there for hours

30:43

at a time, like up to seven hours

30:45

in one day, just lobotomized

30:49

NPC cashing

30:52

those checks, Michael.

30:54

That's

30:55

wild. I couldn't

30:57

do this. What's that famous line? I'd rather have

30:59

a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

31:02

Anyway, she... I love that.

31:07

Anyway, I don't remember who said

31:09

it, someone with a gravelly voice. Yeah,

31:12

I had to say it, but I'm pretty sure Pinky Doll's gonna win

31:14

an Oscar before Glenn close. Let's

31:16

just say it. Wow. Yeah, because

31:18

she's very good at it. She is so committed. Oh

31:20

my God. Yeah. I mean, I know a lot of you other

31:23

bitches coming out of the woodworks trying to jump in on this bandwagon

31:25

to

31:25

get the money, which obviously I don't

31:27

blame you at all, but I don't think anybody's

31:30

quite doing it like she is. When

31:32

you watch her, and

31:34

part of it is sometimes they break

31:36

character, and that's kind of another

31:39

part of the appeal is seeing them break character.

31:41

But when she's in it, you can see her

31:45

eyes dissociate,

31:47

and her brain just changes

31:50

into full NPC mode, and she's

31:52

so committed. She's so good at it. But there

31:54

are some times where she does break, usually because

31:57

she has a child. I don't know if it's a boy or

31:59

girl or how many.

31:59

she has, but she has a child who

32:02

sometimes interrupts the live streams. Uh-huh.

32:04

And that's when things get very funny and

32:06

kind of,

32:07

that's when you kind of start to think about it a little too

32:09

much and you're like, wait, have you seen those

32:11

clips where she has to like, I

32:14

tell her child to go to bed? I saw one

32:16

and it is, it's very jarring when she becomes a

32:18

human being again, because she's so

32:20

good at it. She really does look like an automaton.

32:23

Like, because I've seen other people do it and I think

32:25

you're right. I think it's the eyes and the face because

32:27

her face is so blank and her eyes are so dead.

32:30

Like she's just animated. It also needs to be said that she is

32:32

so stunningly beautiful. She is gorgeous.

32:35

Gorgeous. And other people

32:37

do it and they almost are just a little too human.

32:39

You know, like, they look like they still

32:42

have agency and that's kind

32:44

of like the problem. Yep. What

32:47

a crazy thing to say, but yes. Yes. You

32:52

look too human. You look like, yeah,

32:55

like when I tell you to do something, you're going to think

32:57

about it as supposed to just do it. You

32:59

know, it's whenever they do ice cream

33:01

though. I can't, it's so,

33:03

it's so weird and creepy to me though. It's still,

33:06

I see the appeal for people, but I'm just like still

33:08

kind of eked out by this.

33:10

There was a clip that I saw because

33:13

there's now a million permutations. I

33:15

think I referenced this before on the pod, but there

33:17

was a

33:19

user named Fern is burning

33:21

who did the live stream as like a weird robot with a

33:23

TV on her head. Yes. Trisha

33:27

Paytas obviously tried to jump in on it. She wasn't very

33:29

good at it, but she's Trisha Paytas. So I'm sure it

33:31

still made her some money. And

33:33

then one that actually killed me was this

33:36

bitch who did like the same thing

33:38

except as a Victorian child.

33:41

So it was like, it was like

33:43

food, please, sir. May I have some

33:45

more? Please, sir. May I have some more?

33:47

And then like coughing up blood and being like, Oh

33:50

no, I've coughed up the red. Oh no. I've

33:52

coughed up the red. Yes. And she's like pale

33:55

with like dark circles under her eyes. Yeah. She

33:57

does. What is it? The one where they do a red pepper?

33:59

She's like, ugh, no spicy

34:02

food. I want mushy peas. Like,

34:04

it's so weird.

34:06

And then the other thing that gets me is when they're

34:08

in between commands and they come up

34:10

with emotion. So like, Fern

34:12

is burning, who has the TV on her head. Again,

34:15

so weird. And when she stands, her arms just

34:17

sort of float by her side and she does

34:19

like a little bounce. And then like the Victorian

34:21

girl, her hands are

34:24

just hovering over. Yeah, the fact that there's like that

34:26

level of dedication where they have their sort of like,

34:28

that just loops.

34:30

I said this. Yeah, it's the idle animation. I'm

34:32

hoping again, this is the future of AI.

34:35

The AI actually starts, we just swap

34:37

places. Like AI gives the commands and

34:39

we're weirdly like the static thing just waiting

34:41

to be told what to do. Where it's just like,

34:44

AI is like do a jumping jack and we're like, jumping

34:46

jack. Like, that's the

34:48

future. That's how we regain control.

34:51

Okay, wait, that's not what's happening though.

34:53

Because my Apple Watch tells me to stand up all the time

34:55

and I'm like, stand up now. Yeah,

34:58

I mean, we already have, they're telling us when

35:00

to exercise and when to eat. Like,

35:03

if they wanna take our jobs, we'll take

35:05

theirs. Less than, watch your AI. To

35:07

complain this game AI. Yeah. We

35:11

are coming for your gig. We're

35:13

coming for your gig, babe.

35:14

Oh, were you gonna do,

35:15

okay. I thought you were gonna be like a charming

35:17

guy, but we can go past him.

35:19

Yeah, he's a man. He wasn't. This

35:22

podcast, this Barbie podcast is famously anti-man.

35:25

Yeah. We're trying to turn him

35:27

everyone's gig.

35:28

Well, Pinky Doll. Like I said, Pinky

35:30

Doll's gonna win an Oscar before Glenn Close and

35:32

Amy Adams. She deserves it. I'm putting it out there now.

35:35

It's gonna happen. I don't like a Nobel Peace Prize or something. Okay, and

35:37

last thing before we go, we do have to just mention

35:39

that famed music producer,

35:41

Timbaland, is apparently

35:44

one of Pinky Doll's biggest fans. Oh

35:46

yeah. So random for him to

35:48

be a part of the conversation, but sure. And

35:51

then even remixed some of her voice lines

35:55

into a track. But

35:57

did you see she

35:58

released a video talking about it?

35:59

and the sound doesn't sync

36:02

up with her face.

36:03

It makes her seem even

36:06

weirder. Like when I watched it. It's uncanny

36:08

valley. When I watched it, it's like

36:10

she pre-recorded this, her

36:12

what she was gonna say, and then she stood there

36:14

and mouthed it. While she's talking, she starts

36:17

to slip into her NPC character.

36:19

Like you see the life slowly drain out

36:21

of her eyes and then come back in.

36:23

What if that like happens while she's driving or something?

36:25

It's so eerie. Oh my God. Can

36:28

you imagine that as be warning? Don't NPC

36:30

while driving or operating heavy machinery. Yeah.

36:33

Like accidentally her brain just turns off. Yeah.

36:36

That could be a real danger if this is what you do. That

36:39

actually sounds like a great idea for a horror movie.

36:41

You do it often. Yeah, I do it sometimes,

36:44

now and then.

36:45

Yeah, someone becomes

36:47

an NPC, can't turn it off, and they just start killing people.

36:50

Anyway. On

36:54

that note, thank you so much for joining us today,

36:57

for listening, hanging out with us. On

37:00

Thursday, we have a very special guest. We have our good

37:02

worst cooks buddy, Nick Trawick finally

37:04

joining us. AKA kleptorra,

37:07

AKA the bitch that stole everything that's

37:09

ever been stolen. And besties, don't forget

37:11

to catch up with us on our socials or leave

37:13

us messages at the socialdosepodcast.com and

37:15

we just might read them aloud on the show. Now

37:18

with that being said, I do need to end this live stream,

37:20

Michael. I've actually

37:20

been streaming as an NPC this entire time.

37:23

That's terrifying. I need

37:25

to run very far away from you and go see Barbenheimer

37:28

finally, so I can be part of the conversation. Happy

37:30

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