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The podcast critics are calling deeply bizarre
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and anti-man. This is The Social
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Dose. The Social Dose is your go-to podcast
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for a gorgeous dose of what's going on in the world of social
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media. Brought to you every Tuesday and Thursday.
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Today is Tuesday, July 25th, and I'm
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Paris Nicholson, at ParisNicholson on
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socials. And I'm Michael Judson-Berry,
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at MJudsonBerry on socials. And now, let's
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get into these headlines.
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Today, we came, we saw,
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and we partied Barbies. This past
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Friday was the premiere of the Barbie movie, so we're
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unboxing the online, and our own,
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thoughts about the film. Then, big
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news in nerd world, as Twitter users are
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bringing non-player characters, or NPCs,
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to life through live streams. Apparently,
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some of the biggest names in music are avid
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watchers, too.
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All this breaking social media news, and
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more, coming up next on The Social Dose.
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We'll get right back into our timelines after I check my
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phone.
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I'm Paris. And I'm Michael, and this
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is The Social Dose. Michaela,
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let's get into it today,
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shall we? Yes, let's do
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it. Okay, first thing
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we need to talk about, this bizarre,
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yet very intriguing sport,
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I think we can say, known as disco
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foot. That has been brought to my attention via
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TikTok's For You page. How
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would you describe disco foot, Michael? We've both
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watched this. Yes, I love
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this. Imagine a soccer game,
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or a football game, if you're
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in Europe. I don't know why I became Russian for that.
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But everybody stops
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playing soccer at points in the game, and they
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dance. But they disco. They
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rumba, they waltz, they...
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They vogue. They vogue. Like,
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music comes on and they just start dancing according
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to whatever that music is, including the refs. Like,
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at one clip, the ref just, like, sambas
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across the screen. It's
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so good. They partner, they lift, it's like dirty dancing.
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It's... Yeah, there's lifts. This is how you
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should sports. Imagine if every game
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just had dance breaks like this and the teams just had
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to spontaneously start dancing. It
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would be amazing.
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Yeah. This is what the Savannah Bananas
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were trying to do, but they didn't have
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enough gays on the team. So, Savannah
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Bananas, take note,
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you can be doing even more than
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you already are. This is a sport I can
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get into. Oh, yeah, you'd be great
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at this. What's that called when sports
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have men and women? Multi...
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More fun. Not... It's
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like multi... mural? Multi...
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Multi-mural? It's like a pearl. Muriel?
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Are there women named Muriel? My name's Muriel. Whatever.
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It's a co-ed sport. I will
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be finding out if Los Angeles has a team for
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Disco Foot and applying and auditioning
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for that team myself.
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Our social scientists did find some
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of the rules. They are you wear hot
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pants when playing, there are no gender
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divisions, and dancing, mostly ball
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style, is far more important than scoring.
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I like to think that they're just hidden in the
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crowd and the real scores come from
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like the dance competition aspect.
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Yeah, like 10s across the board. That's
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what you want. That's how you know you've made a goal. Because
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they'll like kind of kick the ball and then like nobody
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cares where the ball goes from that point and then they
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just like get down. I
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love this. I do too. I can't
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wait to see the Olympics. Oh
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my god, wait, the Olympics? Let's anybody
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be a sport now. That's actually probably gonna happen.
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Isn't poker in the Olympics like what the hell? Have
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you heard about Elon Musk's latest
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public midlife crisis? Yes.
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And yet another one, how he
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is changing the Twitter icon to...
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to an X.
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But- Oh, the whole brand is changing
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to X. It's no longer even called Twitter. What's
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it called? He's trying to get us to call it X. He's just
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calling it X. So it's like you don't tweet anymore, you X.
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Yeah, literally I saw a tweet today. Actually
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I saw a thread today. You saw an X. Oh, you saw
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a thread, wrote Twitter. Yeah, and
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it was like a thing that was like, tweets
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will now be known as Xs, I guess?
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Which like, what the hell are we doing
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here? Now on one hand, X
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is famously the hottest letter of the alphabet, top
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five hottest letters of the alphabet besties. Look it up,
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already done. So I get
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the appeal of the letter X, but it doesn't
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feel relevant at all to
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what's happening here. Well, I looked
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up the significance of the letter X. Cause you know,
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whenever there's marketing, whenever there's rebranding, there's
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always a lot around like Y that symbol. So
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I was like, interesting. So what are the, so I
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found an article in Psychology today
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about what they think about the letter X.
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Okay. So there's psychological
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implications of that letter. So it represents
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negative, bad or evil things. But the main
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thing about the letter X is it signifies
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an end of something. An entity whose
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existence is over, past, dead,
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gone. X is the most nihilistic
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of letters. So this is why oftentimes
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skull and crossbones or like a lot,
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that's why a lot of like cartoonists jump on
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the letter X. And like when something's dead, has
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little Xs over its size. They also use it
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in the military and X is like the
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zone where they're bombing like X
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marks the spot. Like X is
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not a positive, like treasure
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is the only time it's a good thing. Like it doesn't give
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off good, you know, intonations.
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Like you have your ex boyfriend, like
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X, that's why it's like your ex. Like that
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is the end of something. Yeah, that's what everybody on threads is. Is
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he like announcing that this is the end of Twitter
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as we know it and like bigger changes are
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coming. Like I wonder if it's that.
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Wait, there was some woman CEO
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in power at, oh, we don't have it here. But
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she like announced that Twitter is going to evolve
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into the.
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next generation of cross-platform
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transaction community
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news media. It was literally a word
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salad generated by AI. I
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was like, what are they doing? They are struggling
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and flopping so hard. They
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said they are moving much more into
6:17
using AI on the platform, which now
6:19
makes sense why they let go of three-fourths
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of the workforce. Because they probably
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have plans where they're like, we're going to make AI
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do all of these, but AI isn't ready yet. So...
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This is stupid. I'm still on
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Twitter. No one's going to call it Twitter. Somebody
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on threads was like, nobody calls it meta,
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nobody's calling it X. No, no
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one's going to call X. But I think it's interesting Elon
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tweeted or X'd to
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embody the imperfections in us all
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that make us unique. And it's like...
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Suck a dick.
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Keep it, Denise.
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Nobody wants anything you have to say.
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Yeah. I just need threads to really
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get her shit together so I can fully make the jump.
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That's where I am. I mean, and although that
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conversation keeps coming up, like I was just talking
7:09
about this with my boyfriend, which I know our
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fabulous senior social scientist
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has talked about this as well, where it's like, how do we
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feel about all of the major platforms basically being
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under one umbrella? Like, I
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like threads better than Twitter, but I also am
7:22
kind of uncomfortable with Mark Zuckerberg being
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in control of three of the four major social
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media platforms. Like, definitely
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not great. We've got to break that up a little bit. As much
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as threads, you're fun and I love Instagram
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and I'm an old person, so I still use
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Facebook. But I just...
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I think we have to unionize. As creators,
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we need to unionize. We need to go on strike
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and create a communal space. Well, I mean, like Web 3
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is allegedly supposed to be that kind of thing,
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like very like homegrown, communal,
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but
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everything right now is so privatized. Do we need
7:54
to call in French rusher? Should we bring
7:56
the nanny name Fran in? We do.
7:58
And here she is best. I'm not saying
8:00
that. I'm just saying that. I'm just saying that. I've
8:03
never tried to do franchise before. Wake
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up and smell the coffee. I'm
8:09
here to talk about social. I know,
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I just always become like, Miranda, that's
8:14
marriage. We come home,
8:16
we eat ice cream. That's marriage,
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Miranda. Oh God bless Steve.
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It's a social dose, it's what we do.
8:23
No,
8:26
no. I haven't seen season two
8:28
of it just like that yet. Their marriage
8:30
is dying. I know their marriage. He
8:33
shows butt, he's still giving butt, which is great. And
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I'm sure it's great, because Steve always was cute. Still
8:37
tight, still gorgeous. Yeah, always one of the cutest. I've
8:40
always loved him. And just like that, it's time
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to get into our top story.
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The
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world was looking pretty in pink this weekend
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with the premiere of Greta Gerwig's much anticipated
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Barbie movie bitches.
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And together with the release of Oppenheimer, of course,
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the internet is still going wild for Barbenheimer.
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Michaela, be a doll and break down the story for us. Yes,
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with the writers and actor strike, it's been a
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quiet launch week, but that didn't keep folks
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from going to the movie theaters. Both movies
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turned out massive box office
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draws. I think Barbie broke records
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at the box office for a female directed
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film, which is amazing. We love to see that.
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So I actually did not
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see the Barbie movie. So for
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the very few of us who didn't
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see it, I know, I know the plot
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was very simple.
9:29
Of a Barbie movie podcast. I know. It was
9:31
your responsibility. It has
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become a Barbie movie podcast. So
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Oppenheimer, I know the story of that because they know all about
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Oppenheimer. I saw the stage
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version of Oppenheimer in London a long time ago. It
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was fabulous. And I find that whole thing weirdly
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fascinating. Are we Barbenheimer?
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We are, oh my God. Oh my God.
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You're even dressed for friends who can't see us. You are
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dressed like Barbie right now. And I'm wearing dark
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green. And I have to like, we actually
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are the color schemes. I have dark hair.
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Who Oppenheimer was. Oh yeah,
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I know all about it.
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There was a monologue in the play that I used to use for
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auditions, where he's like, I feel like I've left a loaded
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gun in a sandbox. Great
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monologue. Anyway,
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the plot for Barbie though is, and
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correct me if I'm wrong Paris, this is what I have in front of me, Barbie
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begins to malfunction. So she heads
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to Los Angeles only to end up questioning reality
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and saving Barbie Land. That's
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correct, right?
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That's kind of how I got here, but yeah, that's exactly what happened.
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Okay, so this
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was my favorite thing about this entire
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experience, is I feel like it's been a very
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long time since we've had like a group
10:38
cultural moment, right? I think because
10:40
of streaming, because of, you
10:43
know, social media, it's rare that we
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as a culture sort of come together
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on one thing, whether you like it, whether you don't, everyone's
10:50
talking about it. It's been a long time since that's happened.
10:52
So regardless how you feel about these movies, I
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think this
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is a very cool thing that
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Barbie has done and that Oppenheimer
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has piggybacked on. Anyway, you
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actually saw the film.
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I did. I saw the film. I did
11:06
not. Saw it Friday with one of our
11:09
social scientists. We had a great time. We
11:11
got all dressed up. Everybody was so
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cute.
11:14
Everybody was like the vibes
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were immaculate. You know what I mean? Everyone
11:18
in that theater, we were all best friends.
11:21
The movie itself, I will say for
11:23
me personally, a perfect film. Everything
11:26
I expected it to be, everything I needed to be,
11:29
things I didn't know I needed it to be, it delivered
11:31
on those. I personally give it a 10 out
11:33
of 10. My only note
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if I had to give one, towards the end,
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it does drag a tiny bit and
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it's like a little shaky on
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part of the message. At
11:45
one point, a woman
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or a mother, I don't want to tell you
11:50
necessarily who it is for spoilers, the creator of Barbie, she
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says
11:53
something to the effect of like, as
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mothers, we stand still so
11:58
our children can see how far. they've gone.
12:00
And I'm like, that was like
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the one thing that I was kind of like, just
12:05
cuz your mom doesn't mean your life goes on hold.
12:08
I like what they were trying to do with that
12:10
specific sentiment and obviously we're not focused on that part
12:12
of it, but I would that that hit my ear a little odd where
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I was like,
12:16
a mom can still continue her life
12:18
and go far. But apparently
12:20
that woman didn't think so. Is that real Perlman by any
12:23
chance? It's real Perlman. Yeah. Okay, because
12:25
we love the memes where it's her, it's that
12:27
moment in the movie with that's like a mother. And
12:29
then next to it is hers. Matilda's mom going, you
12:31
chose books. I chose the looks. I chose looks.
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Yep. Sure did. As
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Mrs. Wormwood and Matilda. Yeah.
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We love Rhea Perlman in this house, but
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overall an incredible film. One of those movies
12:43
that like immediately is one of my top
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faves
12:46
of all time. It's very
12:48
curated to the girls, the gays and
12:50
the days. I feel like I
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will be seeing it again on Wednesday and probably at least
12:55
one more time after that before it leaves theaters because
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I loved it so much. It's also so funny
12:59
that you're laughing the whole time and you miss a lot
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of the jokes. So you got to see it twice. Nice. I
13:04
love what you said about people dressing up. I saw a
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TikTok from at greens 69
13:09
who it's her going to the movie and she's all dressed
13:11
up and she did this TikTok and to Barbie
13:14
to the Spice Girl song. Um, wait, it is
13:16
Spice
13:16
Girls. I Barbie. It's a,
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that's Aqua.
13:20
Oh, Aqua. Sorry. Uh, anyway,
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ignore this. But she says, everybody
13:25
dressing up for the Barbie movie is making me so nostalgic
13:27
for midnight premieres. Harry Potter, Twilight
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lined up for eight hours in full costume.
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The commitment, the community bring that shameless 2008
13:36
energy back to the movies. And I love
13:38
that people are saying like, that's what these movies
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did. Like that it
13:43
feels like that great nostalgic, like let's
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go back to the movies as like a crowd.
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Um, and make it a whole experience.
13:50
Like, you know, get dressed up by
13:52
popcorn, like make a whole thing of
13:54
it. And I just love that there
13:56
was actually, that's so sweet. Michael, I
13:59
completely agreed. There was a. There was a moment where we
14:01
were, there's obviously a Barbie box photo
14:03
booth where you can have a photo moment.
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And we were helping other people that were seeing
14:07
the movie. We were taking pictures for them. They were taking pictures for
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us. Just like strangers that were all
14:11
here for one goal, which is the Barbie movie. Some
14:14
of the people were leaving the theaters. They were like, oh, have you seen it yet? Are
14:16
you leaving? They were talking about, oh, it's amazing.
14:18
You're gonna love it. And it was just so fun to have
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an inherent sense of community in
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a way that we really haven't had in a long time.
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You're completely right. It was very nice.
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Oh,
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I love that.
14:30
So go see it in theaters, Michael. You have to see it in
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theaters. I will. I promise I will. As soon as possible
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so you can still get that kind of vibe
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and dress up.
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I will. So people know that you're
14:40
an ally. I will.
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I wanna do the experience of Barbie and Oppenheimer in
14:43
the same day, just to do it. Yeah. You
14:45
know, because I wanna be part of that. I don't have it in me. I wanna
14:47
do that. I love, did you
14:50
see the tweet also that Popcrave
14:53
shared from who's
14:56
the user? It says Danielle, but
14:58
I don't know her name, but she looks like a musical theater girl
15:00
in New York who did a full
15:03
like costume change as she walked through one movie together.
15:05
The reveal. The reveal, yeah. You know the
15:07
source of the reveal. You talked about this one.
15:10
So it's a two in one look. She starts
15:12
off in like full black, like structured shoulder
15:14
are not, what's Oppenheimer look. And
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then tear away belt, do a twirl.
15:19
It reveals into a full frilly pink Barbie
15:21
look.
15:23
Chelsea literally just shit her pants. Oh
15:27
my, diarrhea blowing out of her ass. Chelsea
15:29
turned off my water and they just turned back on. What just happened?
15:35
They turned off my water and then, that's
15:37
so funny. Just
15:40
blowing out. No, they turned
15:42
off my water and then all my pipes made a bunch
15:44
of noises. And I was like, I think that means like there's a lot of that
15:46
coming. Yeah,
15:47
your pipes did make a bunch of noises. Yeah.
15:51
Ah! Oh my god.
15:55
They got your cameras off. This would be so
15:57
inappropriate. Oh,
16:01
my God. Okay. Sorry. And, besties,
16:03
we actually have to take a quick break.
16:06
One of our producers seems to have sprung a leak, and
16:09
we'll be back to finish our Barbernheimer discussion. -♪♪
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Okay, so before the break, oh,
17:56
yes, this girl did an incredible two-in-one look. It
17:58
is a reference to a look...
17:59
that Chachki did on RuPaul's Drag Race
18:02
season, whatever season that was, which was
18:04
like a, it was like a fall winter
18:06
runway and it was like a full black look,
18:09
same exact silhouette, same exact like reveal component,
18:11
tearaway belt to a full tartan,
18:14
red tartan, eleganza.
18:16
Yeah, so this girl is one of the queens. She's definitely
18:19
knows her references and really, I think
18:21
we can say
18:23
best dressed of the event.
18:25
Oh, yeah. This was, and I loved
18:28
the seamless, like walking from the Oppenheimer
18:30
poster into the Barbie box and the
18:32
little twirl in the middle and just becomes Barbie.
18:35
It's so good. And
18:37
I'm looking at those Leduca boots, clearly musical
18:39
theater girl, there's choreography, it's practiced. I
18:42
appreciate this. It's
18:46
the heel, you know it by the heel. Like she clearly
18:48
got up, went to a dance call that morning and
18:51
then went right to the movies.
18:52
Obviously the movie is such a cultural
18:54
phenomenon that we haven't seen in so many years
18:57
that this movie has broken so many records
18:59
already. A lot of people are quoting like, oh,
19:01
it's the biggest box office
19:03
for a female director of all time. Which
19:05
like, yes, incredible record to break, we
19:07
love. But
19:08
it kind of discounts the fact that like female
19:10
or not, the most recent statistic
19:13
I read was that it is the 24th largest
19:15
box office opening ever. Wow.
19:18
Yeah, like it's gotta be then one of
19:20
the biggest post COVID. Like what
19:22
I wonder. Oh, it,
19:23
I'm sure it is. It has
19:25
to be. What's this article, New York
19:28
Times, Barbie box office
19:30
to the world, the pandemic is officially over, la
19:32
la la.
19:33
Is it the highest
19:36
since COVID? Oh, it
19:38
looks like it's the second highest next
19:41
to Avengers Endgame. So
19:45
post COVID, so like. Fine.
19:48
Well done though. Here's
19:50
the thing, Michael, that I need
19:53
to know because this film was so incredible.
19:55
At one point in the film, they like jokingly
19:57
reference that Mattel makes a Ken
19:59
movie.
19:59
and it's the greatest movie, breaking
20:02
all the box office records. And I'm like, if
20:05
we do live in a world where a sequel can
20:07
happen,
20:08
is it gonna be a Ken movie? Because I will absolutely
20:10
watch that. Ryan Gosling delivers such
20:13
a comedic and incredibly, also
20:15
heartwarming performance. If you didn't
20:17
already love Ryan Gosling, it's impossible to not
20:20
love him after this film. I've seen a
20:22
lot of reviews that said this is his best performance
20:24
ever.
20:25
Like, I've seen things where people are saying that Ryan Gosling
20:27
is actually giving one of the best performances, if
20:29
not the best of his career thus far. Yeah, there's
20:31
so many small choices where I'm like, brilliant.
20:34
And we already know that never work a Robbie. We knew
20:36
she was gonna be brilliant. Like, her in Tanya.
20:39
Oh, my God. In I, Tanya. Oh, I loved I, Tanya.
20:42
She's so good at this kind of... When I
20:44
heard it was her, I was like, oh, is
20:46
she as good as we hoped she'd be?
20:48
Oh, absolutely. She gives you everything you need and
20:50
more.
20:51
Oh, I do. So not everybody
20:53
loved the movie. Did you see the...
20:55
People are
20:57
sharing the bad reviews. I just
20:59
gotta mention these reviews. Yes. They cracked
21:02
me up. People are sharing the one-star
21:05
reviews from clearly just like angry stories. From like letterboxed.
21:08
So these... George
21:10
Han shared his favorite
21:12
four, and I will read them for you now. Barbie,
21:16
an alienating, dangerous, and perverse
21:18
film. Barbie, the feminist
21:21
agenda will kill us all.
21:23
Like, we're all gonna die.
21:26
Barbie, they won't be happy until
21:29
we all are gay.
21:30
Like... That's true. That part is
21:33
true. That's true. And that was as God
21:35
intended. This
21:37
is the best one, though. Barbie, a pink acid
21:40
trip that feels like being slapped by lots
21:42
of confusingly attractive
21:44
people. Which, I don't know. That
21:47
sounds like a wet dream right there. Like a
21:49
confusingly attractive person comes up and
21:51
slaps you. Calm down. Like,
21:53
a lot of people pay a lot of money for that. Like...
21:56
Yeah, truly.
21:57
It's a very expensive service in some countries.
22:00
I think it's important to know, because there's this rhetoric
22:03
of obviously right-wing whack jobs, whatever,
22:06
that the movie is anti-man,
22:08
which to me says that you did not understand
22:10
the movie. Or didn't see it.
22:13
Whatever. Ted course has been criticizing it and has
22:15
not seen it.
22:16
But literally the message of it is that
22:18
toxic masculinity is harmful
22:21
to everyone, and men
22:23
don't have to
22:24
abide by the rules of it and torture
22:26
themselves and put themselves through all of that. They can actually just
22:28
be men. And just, that's
22:31
enough. Yeah, it's okay. That's
22:33
fine, but I don't know. Maybe their brains
22:36
are full of worms, the people that are having these problems.
22:39
A thousand percent. Worm brain is
22:41
really, it's a problem right now.
22:43
It really is. It's a plague. I did see a great
22:45
Barbenheimer meme from Medium-sized
22:48
Meach, who I love on Twitter, who
22:50
said, For those planning on doing a Barbenheimer
22:52
double feature, a word of caution. Barbie
22:54
before Oppy, your tears will be sloppy. Oppy
22:57
before Barbie, you'll still want to party. I
23:00
love that. So I think that's what you should do when you go to see them.
23:04
That's awesome. I just love that
23:06
these two ended up getting mashed up because they're
23:09
such different movies. And I love that the internet
23:11
just interneted. It
23:13
feels like this was the greatest thing that could have happened
23:15
to either marketing team.
23:17
Exactly. It's very much giving
23:19
you're at the McDonald's drive-through in the 90s, and
23:22
you're given the Sophie's choice of Barbie
23:24
or race car.
23:26
I mean, it wasn't a Sophie's choice for me,
23:28
but I'm sure somebody out there was really torn.
23:31
Probably. Did you
23:33
see the mashup from at just
23:35
underscore me underscore me?
23:38
Wait, yes, I did. Excuse me. Where they did
23:41
Oppenheimer but done in the Barbie trailer. Yeah,
23:44
that was actually very well done. It was a really clean
23:46
edit. It really is. Bringing like a post-apocalyptic
23:50
atomic bomb. What time period is that? The 50s? Yeah,
23:52
because it's World War II. It's
23:54
a great match up to great juxtaposition. Yeah,
23:58
but it's like, but he's like. in Barbie's
24:00
world. It's like Emily Blunt looking nervous
24:02
and crying, but then Nazis from
24:05
Jojo Rabbit are in there just to push the
24:07
nut that Oppenheimer was fighting the Nazis.
24:12
I think it's just so...
24:14
Like the fact that these two are together is just
24:16
so wonderful. They put pink curly hair on his chalkboard.
24:18
It's a beautiful dichotomy. Oh, that's
24:20
why I think the world just couldn't resist mashing these
24:22
two up because it's just such a wonderfully bizarre
24:25
mashup. I also feel like we need this to happen
24:28
every summer. Like hopefully the money that this
24:30
movie makes lets studios know like we
24:32
need more girly pop movies.
24:35
Actually, one thing I did have a concern
24:37
with was the trailers for
24:39
the movies are always indicative of like the demographic
24:42
of the film. The trailers they were giving for
24:44
the Barbie movie were the most like generic all-around
24:46
trailers, which makes me fear
24:48
that there's not any more
24:50
like cute girly pop like rom-coms or
24:52
anything on the horizon. I'm like Jennifer Lawrence
24:54
is working again. Like show us what her next project is going to
24:56
be. Like where are these movies?
24:58
Where are the Legally Blondes? Where are the Cluelesses? Where
25:00
are they? Hopefully this like
25:03
brings them back into the culture because they are profitable,
25:06
they are incredible, and they are important.
25:08
Yeah. Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox.
25:10
There have been times
25:12
in the past where we have had summer blockbuster
25:15
juxtaposition movies like this. For
25:17
example,
25:18
the year that 10 Things I Hate About You and The
25:20
Matrix came out on the same day. That's
25:24
a fun one. Incredible combo.
25:26
Or 2008 when Mamma Mia and The Dark
25:29
Knight came out on the same day. Yeah.
25:31
Shockingly, I've never seen Mamma Mia
25:33
and I did see The Dark Knight. I was on the wrong side of
25:35
history back then. I was not a huge fan of
25:37
Mamma Mia 1, but I am obsessed with
25:39
Mamma Mia 2. Here we go again. And
25:41
all I want in the world is for there to be Mamma
25:43
Threia. Here we go yet again.
25:46
Like,
25:49
I can't take credit for that.
25:50
That's from my friend Alyssa Maygold. She
25:52
came up with Mamma Threia and I think it's genius. And
25:55
yeah, I thought that was so funny. I
25:57
love Mamma Mia 2. There was another one.
25:59
But with one of your favorite movies, the year
26:02
that She's the Man and V for Vendetta
26:04
came out. Yes, I was on the
26:06
correct side. I've still actually yet to see V for Vendetta,
26:08
but I own two copies of
26:10
the She's the Man DVD in case one breaks. Oh,
26:12
incredible. I was that person. A great film.
26:15
Where are the She's the Man? When Amanda Bynes
26:17
Eats Chicken Angrily, if you put it in slow
26:19
motion, it's one of the funniest things you'll ever see.
26:22
There's actually one coming on the horizon.
26:24
We have another moment.
26:26
Oh, really? In our future, yes, because
26:28
Saw 10
26:30
and Paw Patrol, the Mighty Movie are now
26:32
releasing on the same day.
26:35
And actually I will be seated for Saw 10. Can
26:39
you imagine though, like you take, you accidentally
26:41
don't do that correctly and you buy them for like, for you. Like,
26:44
cause Paw Patrol is for kids, right? So you do a family day.
26:47
And accidentally bring them to Saw 10.
26:50
Oops, that
26:52
would be bad. And this is not the first time
26:54
Saw has done this because in 2008, again, 2008, Saw 5
26:58
came out the same day as High School Musical 3. Like,
27:01
is Saw just doing this on purpose?
27:04
That was a good year. I saw both of those movies in
27:06
theaters. I
27:08
haven't. I'm not good at horror movies. They freak me
27:10
out. Like, Gore, like, is Saw really gory? That's
27:13
fine, and Saw specifically. It's very gory. It's torture
27:15
porn. I can't do gore. I like a good like, jump scare,
27:17
but gore,
27:19
not so much. The extreme gore helps me to remember that I'm
27:21
a human that can feel things. So I like it. Oh,
27:23
well that's good. Well, Michael,
27:26
you can see Paw Patrol while I see Saw 10
27:29
and will compare notes after. Okay, I'll
27:31
have to find a friend with small children to go with
27:33
me though, so I'm not just like a creepy adult alone
27:36
at a children's movie. No one wants to do that. Oh yeah,
27:38
actually. Michael, when you go to the movies, you
27:40
obviously have to bring snacks. And one of my favorite movie
27:42
snacks is ice cream. Ice
27:44
cream's so good. Ice cream's
27:46
so good. Ice cream's so
27:48
good. We're going to get into why
27:50
Michael's talking like this right after this
27:53
break. Remember
27:55
when Kylie...
27:58
was declared the
28:01
youngest self-made billionaire and everyone
28:03
got up in arms about it? Well,
28:06
I do, because I wrote that
28:08
story. I spent hours talking
28:10
to Kylie and Kris Jenner, and
28:12
on the podcast Infamous, I'll be playing
28:14
tape recordings of them no one has ever
28:16
heard, because it turns out they
28:19
may or may not have lied
28:21
to me. Where'd you want me to be? Uh, you can
28:23
move in there. Listen to Infamous wherever
28:26
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28:29
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29:02
Welcome to
29:03
the social dose. Welcome to the social
29:05
dose. Welcome to the social dose.
29:08
Wow, and NPC story for me? Thanks.
29:10
Wow, and NPC story for me? Thanks. Mm,
29:13
less as parrot what they think. Mm, less
29:15
as parrot what they think. But with ya, I
29:17
can't keep that up. I don't know how they do it. That was
29:19
awful. I give up. Michael Vatt was
29:22
terrible. You have no future
29:24
as an NPC live streamer. I
29:26
did my best. And besties. It's
29:28
hard, I think. I imagine it's hard. I, yeah. Besties,
29:31
I can't. For those of you who have not seen this on
29:33
your For You pages yet. For
29:35
your weeks. People,
29:37
we touched on this a little bit last week, but the story
29:39
has only gotten crazier and bigger
29:42
in the past week. So people are live
29:44
streaming themselves, pretending to be NPCs,
29:46
like AI, non-human
29:48
characters. And as people give them
29:51
objects or cues, like a little hamburger or an ice
29:53
cream cone or like a rose, they respond how
29:55
an NPC would. So it's like you're inputting
29:57
the same thing and then they say the same line.
30:00
For an example, if I was an NPC and you commented
30:02
with a shocked face emoji on live, maybe
30:04
my catchphrase would be like, oh no, am
30:06
I showing whole? Oh no, am
30:08
I showing whole? Oh no, am
30:11
I showing whole? Now whenever somebody
30:13
comments a shocked face, I'll have to say that,
30:15
like an NPC. The
30:17
most popular NPC livestreamer right now is
30:20
a user named Pinky Doll. I honestly think
30:22
she deserves all the credit for putting this trend on the
30:24
map right now. Obviously she didn't invent the
30:26
trend, but she definitely brought
30:28
it to a huge level
30:29
that it never would have gotten to otherwise.
30:32
So credits to Pinky Doll, she's kind of a star,
30:34
I'm obsessed with her. And according to a Forbes
30:37
article, she told Vice that she can actually make $7,000 a day
30:41
doing this. She's on there for hours
30:43
at a time, like up to seven hours
30:45
in one day, just lobotomized
30:49
NPC cashing
30:52
those checks, Michael.
30:54
That's
30:55
wild. I couldn't
30:57
do this. What's that famous line? I'd rather have
30:59
a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
31:02
Anyway, she... I love that.
31:07
Anyway, I don't remember who said
31:09
it, someone with a gravelly voice. Yeah,
31:12
I had to say it, but I'm pretty sure Pinky Doll's gonna win
31:14
an Oscar before Glenn close. Let's
31:16
just say it. Wow. Yeah, because
31:18
she's very good at it. She is so committed. Oh
31:20
my God. Yeah. I mean, I know a lot of you other
31:23
bitches coming out of the woodworks trying to jump in on this bandwagon
31:25
to
31:25
get the money, which obviously I don't
31:27
blame you at all, but I don't think anybody's
31:30
quite doing it like she is. When
31:32
you watch her, and
31:34
part of it is sometimes they break
31:36
character, and that's kind of another
31:39
part of the appeal is seeing them break character.
31:41
But when she's in it, you can see her
31:45
eyes dissociate,
31:47
and her brain just changes
31:50
into full NPC mode, and she's
31:52
so committed. She's so good at it. But there
31:54
are some times where she does break, usually because
31:57
she has a child. I don't know if it's a boy or
31:59
girl or how many.
31:59
she has, but she has a child who
32:02
sometimes interrupts the live streams. Uh-huh.
32:04
And that's when things get very funny and
32:06
kind of,
32:07
that's when you kind of start to think about it a little too
32:09
much and you're like, wait, have you seen those
32:11
clips where she has to like, I
32:14
tell her child to go to bed? I saw one
32:16
and it is, it's very jarring when she becomes a
32:18
human being again, because she's so
32:20
good at it. She really does look like an automaton.
32:23
Like, because I've seen other people do it and I think
32:25
you're right. I think it's the eyes and the face because
32:27
her face is so blank and her eyes are so dead.
32:30
Like she's just animated. It also needs to be said that she is
32:32
so stunningly beautiful. She is gorgeous.
32:35
Gorgeous. And other people
32:37
do it and they almost are just a little too human.
32:39
You know, like, they look like they still
32:42
have agency and that's kind
32:44
of like the problem. Yep. What
32:47
a crazy thing to say, but yes. Yes. You
32:52
look too human. You look like, yeah,
32:55
like when I tell you to do something, you're going to think
32:57
about it as supposed to just do it. You
32:59
know, it's whenever they do ice cream
33:01
though. I can't, it's so,
33:03
it's so weird and creepy to me though. It's still,
33:06
I see the appeal for people, but I'm just like still
33:08
kind of eked out by this.
33:10
There was a clip that I saw because
33:13
there's now a million permutations. I
33:15
think I referenced this before on the pod, but there
33:17
was a
33:19
user named Fern is burning
33:21
who did the live stream as like a weird robot with a
33:23
TV on her head. Yes. Trisha
33:27
Paytas obviously tried to jump in on it. She wasn't very
33:29
good at it, but she's Trisha Paytas. So I'm sure it
33:31
still made her some money. And
33:33
then one that actually killed me was this
33:36
bitch who did like the same thing
33:38
except as a Victorian child.
33:41
So it was like, it was like
33:43
food, please, sir. May I have some
33:45
more? Please, sir. May I have some more?
33:47
And then like coughing up blood and being like, Oh
33:50
no, I've coughed up the red. Oh no. I've
33:52
coughed up the red. Yes. And she's like pale
33:55
with like dark circles under her eyes. Yeah. She
33:57
does. What is it? The one where they do a red pepper?
33:59
She's like, ugh, no spicy
34:02
food. I want mushy peas. Like,
34:04
it's so weird.
34:06
And then the other thing that gets me is when they're
34:08
in between commands and they come up
34:10
with emotion. So like, Fern
34:12
is burning, who has the TV on her head. Again,
34:15
so weird. And when she stands, her arms just
34:17
sort of float by her side and she does
34:19
like a little bounce. And then like the Victorian
34:21
girl, her hands are
34:24
just hovering over. Yeah, the fact that there's like that
34:26
level of dedication where they have their sort of like,
34:28
that just loops.
34:30
I said this. Yeah, it's the idle animation. I'm
34:32
hoping again, this is the future of AI.
34:35
The AI actually starts, we just swap
34:37
places. Like AI gives the commands and
34:39
we're weirdly like the static thing just waiting
34:41
to be told what to do. Where it's just like,
34:44
AI is like do a jumping jack and we're like, jumping
34:46
jack. Like, that's the
34:48
future. That's how we regain control.
34:51
Okay, wait, that's not what's happening though.
34:53
Because my Apple Watch tells me to stand up all the time
34:55
and I'm like, stand up now. Yeah,
34:58
I mean, we already have, they're telling us when
35:00
to exercise and when to eat. Like,
35:03
if they wanna take our jobs, we'll take
35:05
theirs. Less than, watch your AI. To
35:07
complain this game AI. Yeah. We
35:11
are coming for your gig. We're
35:13
coming for your gig, babe.
35:14
Oh, were you gonna do,
35:15
okay. I thought you were gonna be like a charming
35:17
guy, but we can go past him.
35:19
Yeah, he's a man. He wasn't. This
35:22
podcast, this Barbie podcast is famously anti-man.
35:25
Yeah. We're trying to turn him
35:27
everyone's gig.
35:28
Well, Pinky Doll. Like I said, Pinky
35:30
Doll's gonna win an Oscar before Glenn Close and
35:32
Amy Adams. She deserves it. I'm putting it out there now.
35:35
It's gonna happen. I don't like a Nobel Peace Prize or something. Okay, and
35:37
last thing before we go, we do have to just mention
35:39
that famed music producer,
35:41
Timbaland, is apparently
35:44
one of Pinky Doll's biggest fans. Oh
35:46
yeah. So random for him to
35:48
be a part of the conversation, but sure. And
35:51
then even remixed some of her voice lines
35:55
into a track. But
35:57
did you see she
35:58
released a video talking about it?
35:59
and the sound doesn't sync
36:02
up with her face.
36:03
It makes her seem even
36:06
weirder. Like when I watched it. It's uncanny
36:08
valley. When I watched it, it's like
36:10
she pre-recorded this, her
36:12
what she was gonna say, and then she stood there
36:14
and mouthed it. While she's talking, she starts
36:17
to slip into her NPC character.
36:19
Like you see the life slowly drain out
36:21
of her eyes and then come back in.
36:23
What if that like happens while she's driving or something?
36:25
It's so eerie. Oh my God. Can
36:28
you imagine that as be warning? Don't NPC
36:30
while driving or operating heavy machinery. Yeah.
36:33
Like accidentally her brain just turns off. Yeah.
36:36
That could be a real danger if this is what you do. That
36:39
actually sounds like a great idea for a horror movie.
36:41
You do it often. Yeah, I do it sometimes,
36:44
now and then.
36:45
Yeah, someone becomes
36:47
an NPC, can't turn it off, and they just start killing people.
36:50
Anyway. On
36:54
that note, thank you so much for joining us today,
36:57
for listening, hanging out with us. On
37:00
Thursday, we have a very special guest. We have our good
37:02
worst cooks buddy, Nick Trawick finally
37:04
joining us. AKA kleptorra,
37:07
AKA the bitch that stole everything that's
37:09
ever been stolen. And besties, don't forget
37:11
to catch up with us on our socials or leave
37:13
us messages at the socialdosepodcast.com and
37:15
we just might read them aloud on the show. Now
37:18
with that being said, I do need to end this live stream,
37:20
Michael. I've actually
37:20
been streaming as an NPC this entire time.
37:23
That's terrifying. I need
37:25
to run very far away from you and go see Barbenheimer
37:28
finally, so I can be part of the conversation. Happy
37:30
scrolling. Happy scrolling.
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37:51
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