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I'm Paris Nicholson. And I'm Michael Berry.
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And this... whoa. I'm
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Michael Judson Berry. Sorry,
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there was a pigeon right outside my
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window, like, staring daggers at me. And I
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got a little afraid, and I forgot to say
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my full name. I'm Michael Judson Berry,
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and apparently I'm afraid of birds. And this
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is also the social dose.
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Let's get into these headlines, shall we, Michaela?
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Let's do it. The submarine
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was not enough. We need planes
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to fall out of the sky, it seems. As
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it turns out, Arizona Senator Kirsten
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Sinema is proposing a change to
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how training hours are counted for pilots,
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permitting some of them to fly with as little as 500
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hours of real flight time.
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Which, if passed, could mean that my 200 hours
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of cooking mama would have earned me my first Michelin
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star. Yes, Independent Senator, uh,
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Kirsten Sinema. I keep thinking Cinnabon.
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I see that name, and it makes me want a cinnamon bun. Yes,
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this has been proposed, and
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the comments, like, people's responses
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have been amazing. Like, the
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comment that was like, I needed 1600 hours of training
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to cut hair in Arizona.
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Wow. Yeah. That seems excessive.
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That seems excessive, I'll be honest. That's
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true. For cutting hair too much for flying
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a plane, probably a
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great amount. Yeah, or
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like the one from At Lost Shoe Strings, who's in
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New York City, a massage therapy license requires
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a thousand hours of training. Can you imagine, like, your masseuse
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has more training than the pilot?
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Oh, that's a great masseuse. Let me get that phone number.
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Now, listen, I'm not a pilot
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or a politician, besties, as we know. So, I brought
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on one of our besties, political
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strategist Brian Derek, to help us make
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sense of all of this. Brian, Derek, thank you so
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much for joining us today. Hello. Hi,
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friends. I'm so
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glad to be here. Let's get into it.
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Yay. Okay, yes. Because
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you saw how well I did just trying to summarize,
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basically, the tweet. Can you make
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sense of some of this for us? Like,
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how... so there was a bill, there was flying... Absolutely.
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So, there is this bill called
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the Federal Aviation Act.
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Act that Congress has
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to renew for planes
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and airports to keep operating and taking
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us all over so we can go on our summer vacations
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and to work and all these things. And so they have
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to pass this bill. And Senator
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Sinema has proposed
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an amendment that would drop that
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minimum number of in-flight hours for
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pilots from 1500 potentially
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down to as little as 500. And
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so there's been a lot of outcry that
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people are pretty concerned about that. Is she
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presenting an alternative for that thousand
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missing hours? Is it like instead of actually
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in the sky doing that, you're doing it virtually or is
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it just like you don't need that much time? There's
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definitely a component of using simulators
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instead of spending that full time in the plane
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itself and the rationale there being
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that you can have many more people
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flying planes and simulators than the
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expense that it takes and the time that it takes
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to actually fly around in commercial
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airlines. Could it be like an airport by airport?
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I live right near Newark Airport
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and we're just happy if we take off. So
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drop it down to 20 hours if it means getting me out
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of there. So the Newark pilots get less training. The
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Newark pilots are quite, they literally just have
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to show up and be like, can you chew gum and
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walk at the same time? Okay, cool, you can fly this plane.
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Just get me out of this airport. I'll
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be honest, when you are in the cockpit and
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flying the plane, you probably feel like you're in a simulation
5:23
anyway. You're just looking at what, clouds
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and a thousand buttons around you? It probably feels exactly
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the same when you're on the ground.
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That's so true. I think that so much of it is
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automated now, but when
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things go wrong, you definitely want
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the person in the cockpit to know what's going on.
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Yeah, if I'm on that plane that has to land in the Hudson
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River and then they make a movie about it, I want to make sure
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that that movie has a happy ending. Didn't
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that happen? You're referencing anything that happened? Yes.
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Sully, Sullenberger. Yeah, I know. Sure,
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sure, definitely it was that. What if he had only been training
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for 500 hours? How would that have ended? Tom
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Hanks would have had nothing to do. He would have landed in
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the East River. Yeah.
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would have been the wrong one. Paris, take
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us into our first story.
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Protect trans rights, protect
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trans kids, protect trans
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people. That's the liner divas, Michael
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Judsenberry elaborates. In the past
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few years, more and more states have passed legislation
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banning or restricting gender-affirming care.
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And I know we hear that term a lot, gender-affirming
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care, and a lot of us may not be fully clear on
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what that means. So our social
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scientists have put a little summary together for us,
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and it is care that encompasses a
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range of social, psychological, behavioral,
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and medical interventions designed to
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support
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and affirm an individual's gender
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identity. Now, an example
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of one of these bills is from Georgia. It's a Georgia
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State Bill 140, which was passed
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into law this March, which prohibits certain
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surgical procedures for the treatment of gender
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dysphoria in minors from being
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performed in hospitals and other licensed healthcare
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facilities. Whew, I think this
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is the most serious thing I've tried to say, which is probably why
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it was a struggle for me to try and sound like an informed
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human being who is supposed to just do goof
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with a microphone. Brian, as you are here and you actually know
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what you're talking about, can you weigh in on these bills
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that we have seen crop up all
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too often these days? Yeah, there's been
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a huge wave, a massive
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increase over the last few years
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in anti-trans legislation. And
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this is something that we're tracking really closely
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because it has very
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dramatic effects on the LGBT
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community and really on everyone
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as it changes how we have,
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how we see healthcare and our
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right to autonomy in the
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eyes of the law. And so what we're seeing
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is from mostly Republican state
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legislatures, about 17 states
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around the country introducing
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a huge number of bills that
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restrict access to healthcare that
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either prohibit federal funding
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or actually criminalize doctors
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who would provide this kind of care to
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families who are seeking it. And so I think
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the important thing to remember is that this is... is medical
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care that is recommended by
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every major medical association in
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the country. This is what is considered to
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be best practice. And
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there are families out there who are just
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trying to do right by their kids, who
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are following guidelines from
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medical professionals, and
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then are being told by their state government
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that they're not allowed to access that care, or in
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some cases, laws that go so
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far as to say, if you do access that
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care, you could even lose custody of your child.
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Wow, which is insane. Mind
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you, this is health care that is sometimes
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lifesaving.
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Absolutely. We know that
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youth who struggle with gender dysphoria
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are at increased risk of
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isolation, of mental health problems.
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And so this is lifesaving
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medically essential care that
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people are being cut off from, really
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just to score political points. Brian, my
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question is this. It
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feels like grown adults are
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finding the
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children in our community that are the
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most marginalized and just piling
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on to it. So can you help me understand what
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the logic is
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in them thinking, because everybody thinks that they're
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the hero of their own story, right? Nobody thinks that they're
9:14
the bad guy. No one's intentionally being villainous, but what is
9:17
their
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perception of what they're doing to make things better?
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Yeah, I think that we're seeing this right now,
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this huge increase, right? Less
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than 40 of these bills were introduced in 2018
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and more than 400 have been introduced
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in 2023. Jesus. So
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10x in just five years, which is really
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just, as you're saying, piling
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on, right? A massive increase and
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keeping in mind that this is a tiny population,
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less than 1% of Americans. Very
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small. And I think that that's part of the actual
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answer, which is not that
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many people in the United
9:53
States personally know someone who
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is trans. The last legitimate
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survey that I saw put that. under 30%
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of Americans report personally knowing someone who is trans.
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And so what that means is that people are more susceptible
10:06
to misinformation about them
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because they don't have an example
10:11
in their life to disprove that, right? To
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be the counterfactual. That means
10:15
that elected officials can take
10:18
advantage of that situation, whip
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up a lot of fear and anger around
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the issue and then use that to
10:25
propel their own careers and to gain more political
10:27
power. And they did the same thing way back
10:29
in the day with gays and
10:32
lesbians, right? So thinking about the 1970s and the 1980s, there
10:35
was a lot of fear mongering going on about
10:38
having gay teachers in schools and
10:40
having gays in the military. And they
10:43
used a lot of the same sort
10:45
of tropes and disinformation
10:47
to really run
10:49
gays out
10:51
of public life back then. And so it was all about
10:54
protecting kids. And it
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does feel like one of those where they're using that as a jumping
10:58
off to again, go after just like queer people in general.
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Like it definitely does feel like one of those
11:03
where you really have to pay attention to where, what's
11:06
that adage where it's just like, first they came
11:08
for them, but I didn't care because it wasn't me. And then
11:10
they came for, and it feels like they're
11:12
picking an easy target to start with. I don't
11:14
know. You know, just
11:17
my sort of hypothesis. Cause you see it, it's
11:19
growing and it's very scary.
11:20
Absolutely. I
11:22
kind of want to synthesize this into a way that makes my brain understand
11:25
it better. Brian, let me know if you
11:27
would agree with this.
11:29
Can it be seen as in
11:32
the bigger picture, a good sign that
11:34
they have now shifted their focus from like
11:37
gays and lesbians to an even more
11:40
like marginalized community? Because
11:42
in
11:43
my mind, like they came for the gays for so long.
11:45
The gays and lesbians were like, you know what? We rally together. We
11:47
school together like a bunch of fish and then you can't
11:49
get to us. So then they just start picking up the ones
11:51
that haven't gotten like schooled together in like
11:54
the defensive whatever. And that's why
11:56
we're bringing in our trans brothers
11:58
and sisters so much more now.
11:59
than ever. So would you say that this
12:02
is a sign that they are running out of
12:04
things to attack?
12:06
So I think you're both correct. First,
12:09
it really has been a pivot
12:12
after marriage equality. The same
12:14
people who are organizing against trans people now
12:16
were the people who were running very public
12:19
campaigns against same
12:21
sex marriage 10 years ago.
12:23
And they lost that issue
12:26
in the court of public opinion. People were no longer
12:28
on their side. And so they couldn't be out
12:31
at the ballot box or in the street campaigning against
12:34
marriage equality because people just didn't agree.
12:36
And so they had to find something new. And you're exactly
12:39
right. They held on and picked
12:41
trans people as the new thing that they
12:43
wanted to attack. And
12:47
the danger there is that Michael,
12:49
you're exactly right. They're bundling all queer
12:51
people in with that. And so there's a new poll from
12:53
Gallup out just
12:55
last week that shows a 15%
12:59
drop in one year from
13:01
Republicans, from registered Republican
13:03
voters in whether or not they approve of
13:06
same sex relationships broadly. A
13:08
huge drop setting us back more than 15
13:11
years in that approval. And
13:13
so it is having effects across the
13:15
entire community when you're again, spouting
13:18
a lot of misinformation and trying to scare people.
13:21
So it's working. I would say it is
13:23
working in some communities. Yeah, we have a lot
13:25
of work to do. And that's why I'm so glad that you
13:28
guys are talking about this, right? And that
13:30
more people are out there taking this issue
13:32
head on, even if it's not something that you're necessarily
13:35
comfortable talking about or completely
13:38
filled in on. Well, that's why I'm
13:41
glad we have people like you who like,
13:43
if you don't follow Brian, friends, like definitely
13:45
go follow because I feel like you're brilliant
13:48
at taking really difficult issues and making
13:50
them a very accessible, very easy to understand
13:52
and also still light. I appreciate that
13:54
so much. Oh, and as these things are happening,
13:57
like definitely friends, like follow Brian for more like
13:59
information like this.
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To quote Samuel Jackson and one of our
15:04
favorite Instagram comments of 2023, you
15:07
there for the arraignment? Yes, Sam,
15:09
we are here for the arraignment, and
15:11
we are here for the indictments.
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We're, of course, referring to the arraigning and
15:16
indicting of our 45th president, Donald
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Trump. Number 45 is facing 37 charges, and
15:22
we have 100 reasons to love that.
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Paris with more. Yes, Michael, that iconic
15:27
Samuel Jackson line was commented on one of Brie Larson's
15:30
posts back on April 4th, the week that Donald
15:32
Trump was being arraigned in New York City. But that
15:34
was the past, and now this is the present. And Trump
15:36
is currently being indicted on 37 charges relating
15:39
to him mishandling classified documents
15:41
that we may or may not have seen a photograph of next
15:43
to a toilet. Brian, what's
15:46
the general
15:47
gist of what he's done here? Wait,
15:49
were you not in that bathroom? Do you not know exactly what
15:51
was going on? There is no amount of money
15:54
that would convince me to go into that bathroom. Who
15:56
knows how much time it was spent in there reading.
15:59
Okay.
15:59
That famous last words, I've heard many
16:02
people say that exact line about various bathrooms
16:04
and actually to be fair, they were never seen again.
16:07
They're still in there. So they're still
16:09
in there. So basically
16:12
what we have here is a classic
16:15
example of a president
16:17
of the United States abusing
16:20
all of the powers of his office
16:23
in order to try to remain relevant.
16:26
So Trump is being charged with mishandling
16:28
classified documents. He kept
16:31
highly, highly sensitive information
16:34
about the nuclear powers
16:37
and secrets of the United States, of our allies,
16:39
about what we would do if we were attacked
16:42
or how we would attack other countries if we had
16:44
to do that. And he had all these documents,
16:46
like you said, in a bathroom, in a storage facility
16:49
at Mar-a-Lago. And
16:51
when the government tried to get them back
16:53
and say, hey, you shouldn't have those, he did
16:56
absolutely everything he could to hold on to them. He
16:58
had them moved. He lied
17:01
about what he had and what he knew or didn't
17:03
know about it. And so that's why he's
17:05
now being charged is because not only
17:07
did he take them, but he knew
17:10
what was in there and intentionally
17:12
held on to it after he
17:14
was asked to give it back. Well, there
17:16
it is. That seems pretty easy to understand. I
17:19
think we all over the course of this have seen a lot
17:21
of really fun memes and GIFs that come out of
17:23
this. Your social media response to this, to
17:25
a very serious topic, has been super fun.
17:28
But it's also like this is, this shouldn't be funny. Like
17:31
a president did something very bad and should be held
17:33
accountable.
17:34
Yeah. I think that it can be both. I think that
17:36
it's good. Okay. Thank you. Thank
17:39
you. That is how information travels now, right?
17:42
Is like it is meme-ified
17:44
or it's turned into content and that
17:46
is how young people consume information. And
17:48
so if we don't let ourselves make fun
17:50
of something and speak in a language
17:52
that people understand and talk about, then many
17:55
people will never hear it at all. Do you have any favorites
17:57
that have popped out for you with any of these Trump ones?
17:59
that that's bring to mind. I think
18:02
all of the Hillary ones just have the absolute
18:04
highest form of irony that
18:07
I love to see the juxtaposition
18:09
of anything with the emails and the boxes
18:12
is just sending. Yeah. Isn't
18:14
there like a rule or like a law that says, hey, president,
18:16
you can't take the documents to your house. You
18:19
keep them at the Oval Office or in a filing cabinet
18:21
with a lock. I don't know.
18:22
Are they allowed to just take stuff? No,
18:25
no, of course not. And I think that that was a big question
18:27
that a lot of people had was, but didn't Biden
18:30
do this? They found files there. Didn't
18:32
Pence do this? That they found files in
18:34
his home. That's true. I think that the
18:36
sensitivity of the documents is one major
18:39
game changer here where these weren't
18:41
classified because of who wrote them or something.
18:44
They were classified because they were the absolute
18:46
highest level of top secret
18:48
that documents can
18:51
be. In some cases, the documents were so sensitive
18:53
that even as president, Donald
18:56
Trump did not have the power to
18:58
declassify them. Really? Yeah,
19:01
exactly. Right. Because they
19:03
were so sensitive. That's good to know. Yep. That's
19:06
really good to know. Totally. Who has that
19:08
power? It has to go through the Department of Defense. Makes
19:10
sense. Yes. And how do you think,
19:12
because I've seen a lot of people say like how
19:14
obviously his base will always support him. They're just like,
19:16
he can do no wrong. Where
19:19
do you think this looks for the next election?
19:21
Do you think people are actually going to be like, we don't
19:24
know how we feel about you anymore? Yeah, I think
19:26
our best estimation
19:28
of what will
19:28
happen in the future is what has happened in the past.
19:31
What we've seen anytime Trump does something
19:33
bad and is called out for it is
19:35
that that core base just rallies
19:37
around him and normal
19:40
people open to other options move away
19:42
from him.
19:47
We've seen he's dropped a couple points since
19:50
the indictment across all polling,
19:53
but not enough that any other
19:55
Republican is like right on his heels
19:57
to take over as the front runner. OK.
19:59
He's currently still in the lead.
20:02
He is, yeah, he's still a front runner. Wow. Wow,
20:05
okay, that's upsetting.
20:07
One of my favorite Twitter
20:09
accounts called atlizaoutlives,
20:12
it's called, it's Liza Minnelli outlives, but atlizaoutlives
20:15
has had a good amount to say about this.
20:18
Whoever runs this account is one of my favorite
20:20
humans. And just sort of like announces
20:22
what's going on in the world by being like, Liza Minnelli
20:24
has now outlived this. So there
20:27
was one that was like, Liza Minnelli has outlived the
20:29
long wait for Donald Trump to be indicted. A grand
20:31
jury has voted to indict the former president for his
20:33
role in paying hush money to Stormy Daniels. Hallelujah,
20:36
and amen. And I just love
20:37
that that's sort of like the way we're
20:39
measuring things. It's like, this happened,
20:42
like Liza Minnelli has outlived yet again
20:44
another historic moment. I think she's
20:46
gonna have to live for a long time to see the
20:48
end of this thread, right? There's gonna be so
20:50
many things coming out about Donald
20:53
Trump's next arraignment, Donald Trump's
20:55
next court date, and maybe
20:57
Liza Minnelli outlived
21:00
Donald Trump being outside of jail. What
21:02
if she just outlives Donald Trump and he dies? I
21:04
never thought I'd see the date, Mama. That'd be great.
21:07
Remember that
21:07
Donald Trump, he's in prison now and I'm still here,
21:09
I'm still here. Like
21:11
that's how that would go. That's exactly
21:14
how that would go. Can you believe it, Mama?
21:17
Oh my God, Liza's, I'm
21:19
still here Carnegie Hall concert. Trump went
21:22
to prison, but I'm here.
21:24
Liza, take us to a break, will ya? After this
21:26
ad break, we're gonna get back into breaking social
21:29
media news. It's gonna be fabulous,
21:31
darling, just fabulous. Terrific, terrific.
21:34
Rach Berries.
21:40
Hello,
21:41
I'm Tig Notaro, and despite
21:43
my request that you stop asking
21:45
me questions, here we are again. We're
21:48
back with new episodes of Don't Ask
21:50
Tig, where my guests and I field
21:53
your questions every week. This
21:55
season, we get advice from Kristen
21:57
Bell, Cheryl Lee Ralph, Randy
21:59
Jackman, and so many more.
22:02
I can't promise it's good advice, but we
22:04
will always try our best. Listen
22:07
to Don't Ask Tig
22:08
wherever you get podcasts.
22:30
And we're back.
22:43
Okay, this has been a very
22:45
serious episode, we get this, as far as we
22:47
go, so we gotta have a little bit of fun. So
22:49
we are going to play a game here at The Social
22:51
Dose. So Brian, the world of social
22:53
media is something we are experts in, but
22:56
you are the expert on politics, and we have prepared
22:58
a little game where we're going to put yours
23:01
and Paris' heads together when
23:04
the force is combined. That
23:07
was a way to phrase that. Like,
23:10
neither of you enjoyed that. But now you're excited
23:12
about
23:13
this game, I'm sure, called Red, White, and Twitter
23:15
Blue.
23:16
What's the game? Okay, how this works is,
23:18
no, I just want to introduce it for 25 minutes.
23:22
This is why they didn't hire me to host Wheel of Fortune.
23:25
Oh. No. My
23:27
self-tape was so good and unsolicited.
23:30
Okay. Um, Red,
23:33
White, and Twitter Blue is very simple. Unlike
23:36
my introduction, I will read you a tweet
23:39
from a politician, and you'll have to guess who tweeted
23:41
it from a list of politicians that I will give you. It's
23:43
a fun little multiple choice game. So,
23:46
here is our first one. Who is
23:48
challenging Jimmy Kimmel to a B-Ball
23:50
match? The tweet is, at
23:53
Jimmy Kimmel. Alright, big guy,
23:55
you talk a good game. You
23:57
besmirched my support for the...
23:59
Houston Rockets
24:02
eyebrow up face so let's
24:04
settle this man-to-man colon
24:06
one-on-one
24:08
hoops or ring ball if you prefer
24:10
the loser gives $5,000 to the non-political charity
24:14
of the winner's choice so who
24:16
is challenging Jimmy Kimmel to a basketball
24:19
match is it who tweeted this
24:22
who tweeted this is it speaker of the house Kevin
24:24
McCarthy secretary of transportation
24:26
Pete Buttigieg or Republican
24:29
senator Ted Cruz
24:31
I can't tell do you know the
24:33
answer to this Brian I do
24:36
know the answer to this I feel very
24:38
confident let me say okay on
24:40
one hand I don't want to say Pete Buttigieg
24:42
because Jimmy Kimmel seems like they
24:45
seem like they'd be on the same side but also is this Pete
24:47
Buttigieg's like idea of playful ribbing if so
24:49
he's an alien from another planet because
24:52
no human rights or speaks like this
24:54
okay well Pete is not challenging anybody to basketball
24:57
let's get real he's like fire yeah okay
24:59
yeah Ted Cruz just a
25:01
wee man
25:02
is an oh Ted Cruz is from Texas he's
25:04
not from Florida okay so maybe Houston
25:07
Rockets Ted Cruz is from Texas
25:09
I'm gonna say C is that what you were thinking Brian
25:12
absolutely Paris you know that
25:15
and you are both correct it is America's
25:17
favorite vacationer Ted Cruz okay
25:23
I'm actually impressed with myself let's hear the next
25:26
one okay great who's into
25:28
modern linguistics who of
25:30
these politicians is the most cunning linguist
25:33
here's the tweet refutiate misunderestimate
25:37
we weed up English is a living
25:39
language Shakespeare like to coin new words
25:41
to got to celebrate it
25:44
was this tweet from
25:46
Georgian Republican representative Marjorie
25:48
Taylor Greene former Alaskan
25:51
governor Sarah Palin or
25:53
former president George Bush
25:56
this one's tough cuz I feel like they're all
25:58
famously morons
25:59
Yeah, I'm immediately
26:02
drawn to Sarah Palin.
26:05
We Weed Up is giving me weird,
26:08
weird energy for me. Yeah,
26:10
very weird. And I don't think that Marjorie Taylor Greene could
26:13
definitely not spell Shakespeare. Like
26:15
she couldn't do that.
26:16
It's true. Oh. Not even
26:19
with auto correct. Not even with auto correct. Oh,
26:22
I don't think I could either, honestly. It's like.
26:24
Um. I
26:26
feel like refutiate and misunderestimate could
26:29
both be George Bush words, but the vibe overall is
26:31
giving Sarah Palin. I think you're
26:33
right, Brian. Yeah, the vibe is giving Palin to me. Okay,
26:35
final answer. Yeah. Yeah,
26:37
let's go Palin. Yes, it is. Sarah, I can see
26:41
Russia from my house Palin. She said
26:43
refutiate, misunderestimate,
26:45
and we weed up. We
26:47
Weed Up. We Weed Up
26:49
definitely sounds like something she would say. In what context?
26:53
In what context?
26:54
A hockey mom is lipstick on a pitbull
26:57
and I know how to we we up. Okay. Paris,
27:01
you we weed up once and it didn't end well for
27:03
you. So. Oh, that's
27:06
true, Andrew. That's the only context I have
27:08
for the term we weed up. I don't know what that could
27:10
mean other than accidentally peeing in one's own face.
27:13
One's pun at time Paris peed in his own face and he hasn't
27:15
stepped up to a urinal ever since. I was like
27:17
seven, Brian. It was sad. It was traumatizing.
27:19
All right, that was helpful context. I appreciate
27:21
that. Yeah. Okay,
27:24
last one.
27:24
Whose father was incredibly
27:27
intense?
27:28
When I was a kid, my dad used to walk
27:31
around the house saying, beat the system kids,
27:33
beat the system. It took me 50 years
27:35
to realize how much he really meant that.
27:38
Is this Florida governor Ron
27:41
DeSantis, majority Senate leader
27:43
Chuck Schumer, or presidential candidate
27:45
Marion Williamson? Okay, don't know Chuck Schumer.
27:48
So I'm just gonna say no to him.
27:50
Good call. I'm just giving Chuck Schumer, Brian. No,
27:52
Chuck Schumer loves the system. Yeah. Okay,
27:55
Marion Williamson hates the system and I do love
27:57
her for that. Totally this doesn't necessarily
27:59
sound like the.
27:59
the way she talks? Yeah, I feel
28:02
like if it were DeSantis, it would say, beat the kids,
28:04
comma, system. That's what I was
28:06
waiting for. Exactly. Exact system
28:09
kids. Exactly. So yeah,
28:11
I'm with you. I feel like-
28:13
Let's go Marianne. It's totally giving Marianne.
28:17
And you are both correct. Look
28:20
at you. Wow.
28:22
Oh, I'm so proud of you two. Can
28:25
use context clues and my resources
28:27
like Brian. Thank
28:29
you for carrying us through that game, Brian.
28:32
It was all you. It was all you. So wait, real
28:34
quick, I would love to hear your thoughts on Marianne Williamson
28:36
because I'm personally a fan. But I feel
28:38
like it's just not plausible at this point because the
28:40
world's not ready for her. But also,
28:43
how realistic are the things she's saying?
28:46
Yeah, I think that she is
28:48
really speaking the language to
28:51
reach specific segments of the
28:53
internet community of
28:56
the very plugged in community. I get from friends all
28:58
the time who spend a lot of time on TikTok
29:00
that they're big Marianne fans. I
29:03
think that in 2024, it is about what our options
29:05
look like
29:09
and what we can achieve. And
29:12
Marianne
29:14
does not have a path to being in
29:16
the White House. That's so upsetting. Because
29:18
yeah, I think that's right. I ideologically,
29:21
I'm like, yes, 100% Marianne Williamson.
29:24
But at the same time, it's like, am I throwing a vote away?
29:27
And you hate to feel that way. But
29:29
that's the way the two-party system works. And it sucks. Two-party
29:31
system is ass. I heard, I think in
29:34
school one time, Australia does a, I
29:36
don't know, some country does a different voting system where
29:38
you rank your picks. Yeah, that's like
29:40
Ireland. They have a five-party system. And you just rank
29:43
one to five. So chances are good one of your
29:45
top three is going to get there.
29:47
Yeah, nobody wins the majority
29:49
vote. Well, you just vote for your top five.
29:51
But as a result, everyone's at peace with that. Yeah, we should top
29:53
five. We should top five hottest presidents. I'll
29:56
start it. It's happening in some places.
29:58
New York City has implemented.
29:59
and ranked choice voting, as well as Alaska.
30:02
That's how we ended up with Congresswoman Mary Paltola.
30:05
Google it. And we love her? And
30:08
we love her, major, yeah. Okay, good.
30:10
Good, yeah. Well, it starts local. Starts
30:13
local.
30:13
Absolutely. I love that. It is indeed hopeful.
30:16
Okay, well, on that hopeful note, aw,
30:19
yes, thank you. We're gonna end on a hopeful note today. That is
30:21
all we have for today. Brian, thank you
30:24
so, so much for coming in and being our
30:26
special 4th of July correspondent and our
30:28
political expert. We very much appreciate having you here.
30:31
Yeah, Brian, thank you so much. Thank you for having me
30:33
on. Where can everyone find you,
30:35
go on walks with you, watch
30:37
you put on a blue blazer and get very excited about
30:39
politics? You can find me on socials,
30:42
except for Twitter, at
30:43
BrianDerrick underscore. Amazing. I
30:46
also feel like, should we guide people
30:48
to resources and places that they can donate or volunteer?
30:51
Yeah, I think that if you wanna take action,
30:53
especially on the trans issue
30:55
that we were talking about today, there are a lot of really
30:58
great state-based groups that I would recommend
31:00
like Equality Texas,
31:03
Equality Florida, the Tennessee Equality
31:05
Project, who are doing awesome
31:07
work on the front lines, making sure people get
31:09
the healthcare that they need. I love that.
31:11
And also the information that they need, because a lot of people are just
31:13
confused about what it is and making strong
31:16
choices based on misinformation. Exactly.
31:19
And you would never do that, Bestie.
31:21
Listeners, you would listen to the episode
31:23
all the way through, and then you would go to thesocialdosepodcast.com
31:25
and leave us a message with your thoughts on all of this.
31:27
I know you would do that, and you will, and I can't
31:30
wait to hear those messages, Besties. But
31:32
with that being said, I need to go
31:34
clear a path for Marianne Williamson to get
31:37
to the White House. And
31:39
I need to go find out who's running the Liza
31:41
Minnelli Outlives account, so I can go try
31:43
and get an internship there, because it just looks fabulous,
31:46
absolutely fabulous. Happy scrolling, friends.
31:48
Happy scrolling, Liza. Thank
31:50
you.
31:52
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31:55
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31:58
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