Today I sit down to talk to rapper/activist/producer Bloodmoney Perez about the CHOP (Capital Hill Occupied Protest), an autonomous zone formerly known as CHAZ(Capital Hill Autonomous Zone).  This conversation is mostly about the significance of the autonomous zone that has been opened up in Seattle during anti-police protests in the wake of George Floyd’s murder.  We talk about the cultures of mutual aid, solidarity and self defense that have popped up against constant attacks from white supremacists, the media and the police and how this movement is modeling the revolutionary potentials of our time.     We also talk about his new album, “Its About Fucking Time,” the loss of his grandmother to Covid 19, and a wide ranging discussion about the economic and social state of affairs in the US.     Basically, are we in a civil war yet?