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what is the purpose of

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know truly the purpose

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of today's episode is we want to

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to use the offseason as a means

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of connecting with you the listener and

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the obvious way to connect

2:54

is we all love college football here are

2:56

the things we love about college football here

2:58

are the small elements of the sport that

3:01

we love but we've done that show

3:03

Ty yeah we've done the show with

3:05

like the mysterious squirt through where a

3:07

tiny running back runs you know slams

3:09

into the the b-gap or whatever and

3:12

it seems like the play is gonna

3:14

be shortly whistled dead and then he

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manages to squeeze through linebackers and defensive

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tackles and come out of

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the abyss for a large game so we've

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gone through the squirt that the mysterious

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squirt through yes so we've gone through

3:27

the the smaller elements of the micro

3:29

moments of the sport that we love

3:31

today I think we're gonna try

3:33

to come together and establish a

3:36

nice baseline of we'll

3:38

call it minor annoyances minor grievances because

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we love the sport but there are

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some plays there are some calls from

3:45

coaches there are some calls from broadcasters

3:47

there are some elements of a college

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football game where I just

3:52

want it to be a shared experience that we

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all feel as if these things could potentially be

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improved upon Does

4:00

that make sense? I think that makes

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sense. This is our college football minor

4:05

grievances bracket We've

4:07

got 32 items here that we

4:09

have bracketed off solidverbaledgeemail.com

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is where you can send yours and of

4:14

course We'll be monitoring across all of our

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social media channels if anything comes to mind

4:18

and you want to give us a shout

4:20

out We will prompt you as such

4:23

because we want to continue this trend going

4:25

of course March Madness is Well

4:27

underway at this point, hopefully your brackets aren't

4:29

too much of a disaster the

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way ours already are I

4:35

haven't checked on mine. It seems bad. And by the

4:37

way, if this goes really really well, we'll

4:39

not only get listeners

4:41

input for the broader

4:44

listener minor grievance annoyance

4:46

bracket, but we will

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record a potentially

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secretly published relationship

4:53

minor grievance bracket That's

4:56

right, that's right. We've been talking about this

4:58

one, too That will

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I kind of want to have a woman's

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perspective on this since we are both in

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relationships with women And so

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maybe we'll figure out some sort of guess

5:09

to sort of even the conversation out a

5:12

little bit That'll definitely

5:14

be behind a paywall Yeah, now

5:16

it goes behind the paywall that will not be

5:18

a public face. That will be password protected. Yeah

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the teeth Okay, so what we've

5:23

got here is as I said 32 items.

5:25

We paired these off. We thought these up over

5:27

the last Couple hours.

5:30

Let's say I feel we've got

5:32

a really strong slate here. Yeah, we're

5:34

gonna talk through these we will eventually

5:37

arrive at a winner of The

5:40

tie-in Dan regions that we've got in front of

5:42

us here And then we'll hopefully combine

5:44

those with what the verbal or send in a little

5:46

bit later on in the week Okay, yeah,

5:48

this is where this is going to work. I will read there's

5:50

no seating We didn't do the seating but we did pair these

5:53

off in at least somewhat of a

5:55

logical way You and I will

5:57

read these through we'll talk them out. We will pick

5:59

the winner who? advances, I will keep

6:01

track of it on my end. And as

6:03

we go through the episode, we'll determine

6:05

who who our side

6:07

of the bracket is going

6:09

to advance. Does that make sense? Yeah, I

6:11

yeah. And look, how do we define minor

6:13

annoyance and minor grievance? Well, we don't really

6:16

have a good way of defining

6:18

that the things that make you furious in

6:20

a game are things involving,

6:22

you know, losing and

6:24

winning or horrible call,

6:27

right? The things that are just

6:29

hugely dramatic. I think these

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are minor things that can lead to major

6:33

events. But truly, we tried to

6:35

think of things that are not backbreaking in

6:38

and of themselves, whether it's the way a

6:40

game is broadcast, whether it's a specific kind

6:42

of play call or a specific action that

6:45

a player has on the field. I

6:47

do have a number one overall seed

6:49

in my mind. I don't know if

6:51

you do in looking at this list.

6:55

But the way I guess

6:57

we'll determine it is which, which

7:00

I guess brings out more emotion. Yeah, it's

7:02

not necessarily the most minor

7:04

or the least minor. It's just

7:06

like, which, which makes our

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blood warm, not necessarily curdle. That's right. What

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irks you is what we're going for here.

7:13

All right. First matchup. By the way, when

7:15

you get to your number one overall seed,

7:17

just just shout it out. Again, we didn't

7:19

speed these off, but we did pair them

7:22

in some logical way. The first

7:25

matchup here is between

7:27

a pointless drive extending

7:29

penalty. Oh, and

7:32

a player staying in bounds late, which

7:34

costs the team a ton of time

7:36

and perhaps the game. Okay,

7:38

maybe these both make my maybe these are both major. But

7:41

I just felt when you said that, I heard

7:44

the helicopter in my head

7:46

of a flashback. Players

7:49

staying in bounds when get out of bounds,

7:51

we don't have any timeouts, we need the

7:53

time or a player

7:56

who is commit

7:59

some sort of of penalty on like third and

8:01

17 your team gets a stop but he

8:03

rough the passer with and it wasn't even

8:05

like in the motion of trying

8:07

to sack him it was way way after

8:10

to try and like prove a point and

8:12

be tough. Yeah, I would the one that

8:14

I think makes my blood boil

8:16

the most is certainly

8:19

the drive extending penalty but the type

8:21

of penalty matters in this conversation, right?

8:24

Okay, so give me the ones that in

8:27

some sort of order that really get to you. Offsides

8:29

is the worst. Offsides

8:33

is the worst because if you are rooting for

8:35

the defense and if it is a third

8:38

and fourth and short situation

8:41

you have this feeling in the pit of your stomach

8:43

like just one more stop. One more stop,

8:46

gets us the ball, gets us the chance to score to

8:48

go down the field, what have you. Offsides

8:51

is just so minor. And

8:55

it just, it's almost an

8:57

afterthought that it's

8:59

an automatic first down. That's

9:01

always the last thing that

9:03

comes into your field of view. The

9:06

fact that that is what is extending the drive. So

9:08

that to me, I react more

9:10

to pointless drive extending penalty. The

9:12

players staying in bounds late, that

9:15

is definitely more of a minor thing.

9:17

I don't think it happens as often.

9:21

But for me, if I'm looking at these,

9:24

it's the drive extending penalty that kills me

9:26

every time. I think that's right. The

9:29

specific penalty though to me is roughing the passer

9:31

when say a defensive tackle gets

9:33

called for it, jumps up to try to

9:35

block the pass and then

9:37

comes down and doesn't block the pass

9:40

and it's a terrible pass, right? Let's say

9:42

it's overthrown by six yards,

9:44

there's no chance that a receiver is even going

9:46

to catch it. And then he

9:49

just shoves the quarterback as like

9:51

a move of aggression, a move of

9:53

power or something like that. Like, cool

9:55

job, dude. You just gave us

9:58

15 yards to lose. That's great.

10:00

Awesome that to me. I mean

10:03

the offside is one thing The

10:08

Sort of like a PI that

10:10

was fully unnecessary because it's overthrown

10:15

Yeah, you're stealing my thunder this is gonna be a

10:17

little bit later on in this episode, okay fair enough

10:20

But I think and I

10:23

don't love faulting players for penalties

10:25

of aggression But that almost

10:27

doesn't feel like aggression that feels like

10:29

a penalty of sort of taunting and

10:31

being emphatic about a play Yeah, that

10:34

doesn't actually Potentially do

10:36

anything. So I think that I'd have

10:38

that moving to the next round as well next

10:41

matchup Going from the

10:43

shotgun on fourth and inches Okay,

10:46

versus throwing short of the sticks

10:48

This Is

10:50

tough because I I can

10:53

find reasons to defend both of these. What

10:55

do you have as moving on? Going

10:58

from the shotgun on fourth and inches

11:00

to me It seems like

11:02

you're making it harder than it needs to be now Depends

11:06

who your team is Depends what

11:08

kinds of plays you call because

11:10

going from the shotgun does give

11:13

you options both in terms of

11:15

running angle and a pass or

11:18

Misdirection it is overthinking things.

11:20

It can be overthinking things if you have

11:22

a competent offensive line So I

11:24

understand the frustration Especially if

11:26

you have a good interior line especially

11:28

if your backs are pretty good especially

11:30

if you have in like a Pretty good

11:32

H back or you line up a tight end in

11:34

the backfield or you lined up a you know a

11:37

linebacker a defensive end or something in the backfield for

11:39

extra short heft I Can

11:41

I can almost defend throwing short of the

11:43

sticks almost? Because I think

11:46

on third down I'm

11:48

just saying in general. Yeah, it's the short of

11:50

the sticks, right? You're trying to it'll say third

11:52

and five or whatever Right

11:54

and you're trying to get the first down

11:56

to continue the drive. I can almost justify

11:58

it because if every Everybody else is covered

12:01

and the only guy who's open is short of the

12:03

sticks. You're better off throwing

12:05

to him, hoping that he can

12:07

make a guy miss and get past the markers

12:09

to get that first down. I

12:12

understand that there's a reason

12:14

it's on this list to begin with. It

12:16

is annoying. It's damn annoying. However, I can

12:18

at least understand where that's coming from. It's

12:21

not, let's say, voluntarily making things

12:23

harder than it needs to be. That might be the

12:25

only dude open. But when you go

12:27

for the shotgun on fourth and inches, you're adding

12:29

five more yards to what you need to gain.

12:32

Why are we doing this? Forward

12:35

momentum options, especially if you're running

12:37

like zone read type stuff, I get it

12:40

on a certain level. If you're a team

12:42

that exclusively runs the shotgun

12:44

and maybe you're not confident that your

12:46

quarterback can handle a snap under center

12:48

in the high leverage moment, I

12:51

don't know. I think there are reasons. I'm

12:53

less forgiving of that. Maybe it's just because

12:55

I've been an Oregon fan for so long

12:58

and they've been in the shotgun for so

13:00

long. Maybe I'm forgiving the Chip Kelly marrow

13:02

in my bones that is informing. The

13:05

way I look at a receiver or a

13:08

play being called short of the

13:10

sticks is sometimes the receiver should run five when

13:12

it's fourth and four and doesn't. That's

13:14

infuriating when he squats at three and a half

13:16

yards and you can tell that it was like

13:19

a hitch that the whole way it was

13:21

meant for him and he runs

13:23

short and it gets a

13:27

turnover on downs. I'm

13:29

going to go with that one. I'm going to go with short of the

13:31

sticks. I guess we disagree.

13:33

All right. I'll give you that one since

13:35

you gave me the first one. These

13:38

are both of a

13:40

similar vein. It's about getting

13:42

to the marker. Let's

13:45

look at it like this. If the receiver

13:47

purposely runs short of the sticks and

13:50

does the hitch. Or does it have the awareness? Yeah. It

13:52

doesn't have the awareness for where the marker

13:54

is and falls down short. I'll give you that

13:56

one. All right. Okay. Next

13:59

one. long quarterback scramble.

14:02

Yeah, so you're rooting for the defense. Your team is

14:04

on defense. It's you know, third and 17 or

14:07

a desperation fourth and 17, the third

14:09

and Pelham moment named

14:12

after former Oregon defensive coordinator, Don Pelham,

14:14

who would give up these plays that

14:16

wouldn't have a defense ready to contain

14:18

a quarterback. And

14:21

so you feel like you've won that drive. You

14:23

feel like you've won and then suddenly they get

14:25

out of it. The fourth and long quarterback

14:27

scramble for first down versus

14:29

the fourth down goal line fade.

14:34

Yeah. When you have one play, when

14:37

it's a crucial moment and you're

14:39

running that fade. I think

14:44

the thing about the fourth down fade on

14:46

the goal line, it's usually preempted by

14:48

at least one other

14:50

goal line fade attempt. True.

14:52

Exactly right. It's never, it's never that they're

14:55

just pulling that one out of the bag

14:57

for the first time, you know, it's always,

14:59

we tried it on second down. It didn't

15:02

work. Why not go back to it on

15:04

fourth? Well, and especially because

15:06

the number of teams who have a

15:09

receiver who is built to win

15:11

those, right? Either has like a

15:14

big ass to box somebody out in the

15:16

corner or has, you know, monstrous meaty hands

15:18

to win all those 50 balls, 50, 50

15:21

balls, or is like Joe

15:23

for you. Was that the name of like six,

15:25

eight tight end for UCLA, right?

15:27

Is an actual power forward that is

15:29

playing tight ends. Like you have whatever

15:32

the modern version of like Antonio Gates

15:34

is that

15:36

if you are just running your number

15:39

two or three receiver, who is probably

15:41

not an NFL type, who most teams

15:43

have non NFL number two or number

15:45

three receivers. And you're like, this

15:47

is the best I can come up with in this

15:50

huge moment where you're just like, I'm

15:52

going to throw it in an area and

15:54

hope this guy wins. That's

15:56

pretty infuriating. That's

15:59

pretty awful. I

16:01

think we got to go a fourth down goal line fade here.

16:04

I think so too. All right Next

16:07

up trying to draw team

16:09

offsides. This is a very high

16:11

seed for me by the way Yeah

16:14

versus the inadvertent early whistle

16:18

This is a Blockbuster of

16:20

a matchup it is this is a solid 8

16:22

9 or a 512 How

16:25

many times how many times? in

16:29

your storied career as a college football

16:31

fan as a college football podcaster as

16:33

a noted internet

16:35

spin How many

16:37

times can you recall? The

16:40

old tactic of trying to draw

16:42

the opponent offsides actually working What

16:45

percentage of the time have you ever seen

16:47

that work? It's

16:50

maybe 2% it never Never

16:54

Work, it's an it's a non-winning proposition and

16:56

maybe you're sort of scouting for like What

16:58

is this team gonna look like in terms

17:00

of personnel? What is this team gonna look

17:03

like in terms of? Stopping a

17:05

fourth down midfield. That's like kind of a

17:07

50 will they or won't they go and

17:09

so maybe you're like, okay This is what

17:11

that defensive coordinator is thinking maybe for later

17:13

on when we're calling a play so in

17:15

that way it's not like a Moment

17:18

where you're positive it's gonna work, but you're

17:20

sort of scouting mid-game if

17:22

that's the case Sure,

17:25

if it's not the case It's

17:27

pretty infuriating and just kind of like what who is this

17:29

for? now the

17:31

idea of picking on 19

17:35

year olds to see if they'll make a mistake if

17:38

it does work you're brilliant But

17:42

it just doesn't it it never works that's

17:44

the problem it never works so

17:46

for as frustrating and As peeved

17:49

as I tend to be by

17:51

the inadvertent early whistle Trying

17:54

to draw a team offsides is

17:57

a tactic that you will see on every

18:00

any given Saturday, a dozen

18:02

times, it never actually

18:05

works. It's always just to give a

18:07

little bit more room for the punter.

18:10

They should just make it like in Major League Baseball on

18:12

an intentional walk, where you can just point to the guy

18:14

and say, go to first. And I

18:16

gotta throw it, go to first. I

18:20

would say the inadvertent whistle is almost two

18:23

major agreements. Like

18:25

I think the

18:27

call to try and get them offsides

18:29

the hard snap or whatever to get

18:32

them offsides fits this bracket better. Because

18:35

if you're a team that recovers

18:37

a fumble and look, even after the whistle, what's

18:40

the phrase like a clean and clear recovery?

18:42

Yeah, right. That like you can

18:45

still gain possession if your team recovers

18:47

a fumble, even if the whistle is

18:49

called prematurely tie. Yeah. But

18:52

I don't think you can, if

18:54

a team recovers a fumble and returns at 83 yards for

18:56

a touchdown, it's sort of a

18:58

spot call that it's back to that, the

19:01

spot of recovery. So it can potentially

19:03

swing a game pretty dramatically. Yeah,

19:08

I'm always annoyed when refs are so quick

19:10

on the whistle. When it looks

19:12

like there's a bang bang play unfolding, you're

19:14

like, hey, slow down, slow down, slow down.

19:18

I think there's more minor about this

19:20

one. So

19:23

I'll give you the offsides attempt. This

19:28

is sort of our bad decisions sub

19:32

region here in our

19:34

grouping of 32 items. Why

19:37

don't we move now to the presentation

19:39

division? Yeah. Okay. First

19:43

matchup broadcasts randomly appearing

19:45

in 480p. Versus

19:52

Joel Klet. That one overall seed, but it's up

19:54

there. It's up there. Versus Joel Klet. We included

19:56

that last joke. That was just a goof. Yeah,

19:59

we put. So, Mr. Klatt in here, I don't think

20:01

we really meant to include Joe Klatt, but

20:03

we needed something, we needed sort

20:05

of a Patsy to go up against 480p, which I

20:08

think is one of our higher seeds.

20:10

No offense to Mr. Klatt, he's in here

20:12

just so 480p can move on. He

20:15

won the play-in game maybe against Kirk

20:17

Herb Street or I don't know,

20:20

somebody else, Todd Blackledge, but

20:22

480p. Like how is

20:24

this still possible that we're getting 480p

20:26

broadcasts in the

20:28

year of award 2023,

20:31

2024? We got an explanation

20:33

that it was ESPN farming out

20:36

some of the production truck

20:38

elements to a third party

20:40

and using old technology that they

20:42

weren't able to upload or uplink

20:47

the feed in anything higher than 480p.

20:51

So they were up-converting for all you

20:53

dorks, I believe. They were just sort

20:55

of stretching the frame to appear in

20:57

higher resolution. It was always the Gilmore

20:59

game. Two

21:02

years ago, it was a Rod Gilmore game and

21:04

he would get the bad cameras, which

21:07

I don't know if that was some sort of like, you

21:09

know, implicit

21:12

dig on Rod Gilmore or

21:14

not, but he seemingly got the bad cameras

21:16

for a year. And

21:18

we still have a couple of these creeping in. We

21:21

still have a couple of these creeping in. I don't think it's quite

21:23

as overt as it was with the

21:25

Gilmore games two years ago, but on

21:28

occasion we'll have like a weird

21:30

weather situation or we're reverting to

21:33

a backup camera or

21:35

some sort of setup where you end up

21:37

with just anything short of even

21:39

720p in this case where

21:42

it just looks really, really bad. That

21:44

in, again, the minor

21:46

annoyance category, this is one of the top four

21:49

seeds for me. I probably wouldn't

21:51

put Joel Klatt in this matchup if we were

21:53

talking about like the color

21:55

analyst where, and look, I'm sure I fit this personally

21:57

for a lot of people, you're like solid rubbles go.

22:00

Dan is a

22:02

minor annoyance. If

22:04

I were to say who in

22:06

the booth as like the analyst, I

22:09

think by and large I'm good with a lot

22:11

of play-by-play guys and nobody stands out as a

22:13

minor annoyance. Like everybody has their own way of

22:15

approaching a game. It's the

22:19

casually moving

22:21

past huge moments or not talking

22:23

about them or not getting

22:25

a replay in there, which is not the analyst's

22:27

fault necessarily. But I would put

22:30

this under like a Tim Brando entry

22:32

rather than a Joel Klatt where

22:35

you watch a game and you're

22:37

like, was he an emergency

22:39

addition to the broadcast? Like it

22:41

never seems like he's fully like

22:44

aware of a roster or a team's

22:46

season thus far. Where it's just like

22:48

Brando lives 44 miles away, get him

22:51

here immediately. That's

22:57

the vibe I get. He came from a

22:59

wedding reception? Yeah. Yes. Where it was like

23:02

whoever was slated to call

23:05

that game had some truly

23:07

awful barbecue the night before

23:10

and as having intestinal

23:12

despair and Tim Brando,

23:14

yes, is at a local wedding and

23:17

happens to be able to, he

23:19

has a suit, he has, he just got

23:21

a haircut. We'll send a car. We'll send a car.

23:24

You're on the mic. Yeah.

23:26

All right. 480p goes on. 480p

23:28

goes on. Next one. This

23:31

is my number one overall seed. This

23:34

next one's my number one overall seed. The

23:38

modern swirling slash flashy LED

23:40

stadium light thing. I

23:42

don't know how to be more

23:44

specific. The thing they do at Alabama with

23:46

the strobe lights. Yeah. Their LEDs are

23:48

going in everywhere, but yeah, you get

23:50

the elephant sound. Yeah. That

23:53

versus stadiums, stadium DJs. I

23:58

think that's a good question. I think it has to be LEDs.

24:02

I don't get it. If

24:04

you don't, of course you get it. It's,

24:06

we can do this, so

24:08

we will. But also, Ty, we're combined like

24:11

85 years old. I get it,

24:13

listen, I get this. Here's my thing

24:15

with this. Here's why this is a minor annoyance to

24:17

me. I don't mind

24:19

the innovation. Right. I

24:21

don't mind the innovation. We talk about, we do like six

24:24

shows a year where we

24:26

try to rack our brains for new

24:28

ways that recruits can innovate in the

24:30

space of recruiting announcements, in

24:33

the space of draft

24:36

declaration announcements, transfer announcements, you

24:38

name it. This is largely

24:40

a sport outside of what we see,

24:42

baby, from an X's and O's standpoint. This

24:45

is largely a sport that's void of innovation,

24:47

okay? Void of innovation, save

24:50

for a few obvious things. What

24:53

bothers me is that Bama started doing

24:55

this and then a bunch of

24:57

other schools just decided, oh, we

25:00

want to be Bama. We're gonna do it too. Right.

25:02

I don't know how many schools are doing this thing

25:05

now with the LED stadium walls. But

25:07

it bothers me. It looks different, right? The

25:09

LEDs, and look, if you're doing this because

25:11

it's more efficient, the bulbs last longer, there's

25:13

a lot of good reasons, I'm sure, to

25:15

upgrade your lighting. But it looks different, right?

25:17

That like the temperature of the lights makes

25:19

it look sometimes like you're playing in a

25:22

dome, even though it's outside. There's

25:24

a different look to the LED transfer.

25:27

It's like a 6100 Kelvin situation. Right.

25:30

You're playing under a desk lamp. Like, this

25:32

is a weird, weird different

25:34

look where you think your TV is a

25:36

little bit off, but it's just the stadium

25:38

lighting has, and your eyes get used to

25:40

it, but the sort of

25:42

flashing and all of the lights go out.

25:44

We can also file this under minor grievances

25:47

because Ty and Dan are just getting up

25:49

there in years. We can. Ty

25:51

and Dan are yelling at some clouds. Right. But

25:54

there's a heavy millennial influence on this show,

25:56

and that's fine. Yeah, of course. stadium

26:00

DJs on here. Yeah. What's

26:03

your beef with stadium DJs? Okay,

26:06

so let's be clear. I don't have a problem

26:08

with stadiums playing

26:10

music, like between quarters

26:12

or before kickoff. All that is cool.

26:14

And it's great. It's the

26:17

actual like DJ is on the field before

26:19

a game or like somebody in the athletic

26:25

department felt like the stadium needed more

26:27

energy. And so they brought in DJ

26:30

Robbie Rob and he's down there

26:32

like he has a microphone. He's

26:35

hyping up the crowd. I know there's a lot

26:37

of like in stadium announcers and hosts and stuff

26:39

like that. And I'm sure there's a spectrum of

26:42

good ones and not so good ones, but

26:44

it's just the idea of, again,

26:47

we are, we are entering or we have

26:49

entered our fifth decade of life. We're old, we're yelling

26:51

at clouds, um, or has beens,

26:53

whatever, but seeing a DJ

26:55

and a college football field, it,

26:59

it sort of seems incongruous. It

27:01

doesn't seem like right place, right time

27:03

to me that there are probably reasons

27:05

why the, there is an energy there

27:07

and a DJ is not going

27:09

to fix it. It's just going to make it look weird

27:12

to me. All

27:14

right. Um, we're

27:16

going LEDs. We got to go LED lights, right? Yeah.

27:19

Okay. Yeah. Next up we've got networks

27:21

not showing an obvious replay.

27:24

This is what you were alluding to just a few

27:26

minutes ago versus an

27:28

unreviewable game breaking moment.

27:32

This is a very good one. So the first

27:34

is sort of what you alluded to with, you

27:36

know, whatever announcer, it doesn't matter. And

27:39

I feel like I've had this grievance with

27:41

Fox a lot over the

27:43

last couple years where they're kind of

27:45

in the throws of the broadcast and not throwing

27:48

anyone's in particular under the

27:50

bus with this, but it just feels

27:52

like they're really in, in, in

27:54

the groove of calling the game of calling

27:56

the situation of talking through the scenarios. And

27:59

I'm at home. on my

28:01

couch screaming, show me the

28:03

replay. You show every other replay, why not

28:06

this one? Seems obvious,

28:08

they don't show it. That's very

28:10

bothersome for me. I

28:13

think that one is my answer because

28:16

it really affects the

28:18

user experience, the viewer experience. And

28:21

I think I probably understand a

28:23

little bit of why we get that sometimes.

28:25

Totally, I totally get it. We're

28:28

moving more towards more remote broadcast

28:30

because ESPN, Fox, whoever are looking

28:32

to broadcast on the cheap, because they're

28:34

looking to save money after spending

28:36

a lot of cash on these

28:38

rights. And so you

28:40

have announcers calling Kansas, Kansas State

28:43

and LA, you have announcers

28:45

calling Cincinnati, Utah and Connecticut, and

28:48

so there are gonna be fewer cameras.

28:50

There are going to be fewer production

28:52

employees, replay employees,

28:54

replay opportunities. And so

28:57

if there is an opportunity to see whether

29:00

or not a guy crossed the goal line,

29:02

and all you get is an angle behind

29:04

the play where you can't tell anything and

29:06

you're just like, well, this is completely useless.

29:08

Well, it's because we don't have as many

29:10

cameras because we are cutting costs and

29:14

it's horrible. And

29:17

it ruins that moment where you're like, I

29:20

don't know what the refs are looking at. I

29:22

don't know what I should be looking

29:24

at if I can't see a good angle. And

29:26

so, or just moving past a

29:28

play where you're like, you needed obviously to see

29:31

what happened. Like it was a bang bang thing.

29:33

You're just like, well, that was a first down.

29:35

We're moving on. And you're like, what was

29:37

it? Clearly didn't seem like it was.

29:40

And we just move on and don't talk about it anymore.

29:42

Worst. I think we gotta move that

29:44

one through. For as much

29:46

as the unreviewable moment can

29:48

be bothersome, we

29:51

are nothing if not selfish podcast. So

29:53

it's all about the user experience from

29:55

our catch. Final

29:58

pairing in this sub-room. region again

30:00

the presentation sub region let's call it

30:02

yeah yeah yeah

30:04

I jotted these down these are two tie ones

30:06

okay I've got sideline reports

30:09

that offer no insight okay

30:11

versus rules analysts who

30:14

hedge one

30:18

is sort of innocuous one

30:21

you're in you're generally in a

30:23

heightened state of nervousness

30:27

because there's a play

30:29

that's so close that it's

30:31

being reviewed by the refs whether it's targeting

30:33

whether it's a spot whether it's out of

30:35

bounds whether it's did he come down when

30:38

we're bobble to catch whatever that is generally

30:40

a I don't know if it's a higher

30:42

leverage moment but it's a

30:44

it's a tensor moment and

30:46

having a rules analyst on there

30:48

who doesn't necessarily care about

30:51

getting it right or is sort of wishy-washy

30:53

with like well they might be thinking this

30:55

and like well why are we here why

30:57

are we here to have this conversation we

30:59

can just wait and see I think

31:02

that gets it for me because you

31:04

know a sideline reporter saying like you know coach

31:06

said they got to do they got to toughen

31:08

up in the second half back to you bill

31:11

and it's kind of annoying but it

31:13

doesn't nearly go as far as being

31:15

memorable here's the thing I

31:18

think sideline reporters by and large get

31:20

a really bad rap a

31:22

really bad rap because look all you gotta do

31:25

is read the internet and

31:27

you could see what people say about people who

31:29

are trying to do a good

31:31

job at sideline reporting it's

31:33

hard to offer insight from that perspective because

31:35

you're chasing down injuries you're trying to be

31:37

in the flow of the game I I

31:41

think it's a much harder job

31:43

than most people would recognize and

31:45

so by and large and again

31:47

this is a minor annoyance from my standpoint

31:50

where I'm in the game I'm watching Notre

31:52

Dame I'm watching Penn State they kick it

31:54

down to whoever is on the side Tom

31:56

Luke and Bill whoever is on the sidelines

31:59

and they give be a nugget of information

32:01

that does not interest me and I sort

32:03

of furrow my brow at that. Right. But

32:05

that's a hard spot to put anybody in. Yeah,

32:09

and if you're a reporter, you want

32:11

to justify your existence in place, right?

32:13

And there are a number of things

32:15

that are super interesting that

32:18

sideline reporters or sideline

32:20

analysts, whatever, can report

32:22

on, right? That like if a coach and

32:24

player got in the shouting match or a

32:26

shoving match or if this player is favoring

32:29

his left ankle or if

32:31

this quarterback right before

32:34

this key drive was like really

32:36

inspiring his offensive line and his receivers

32:39

and you're like, he, the expletives were

32:41

flying. Like that's really like interesting, nice

32:43

color, right? To understand before

32:45

a big moment or a big drive. Like

32:48

that's really cool that say Molly McGrath or

32:50

Jenny Taft or whoever on both of those

32:52

women do great jobs. That's

32:55

like to observe the emotion

32:57

on the sideline and report back on

32:59

it. That's cool. But like I

33:01

talked to coach so and so and they said they

33:03

need to keep doing what they're doing. Exactly.

33:07

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So I get it.

33:09

I think that's a hard job. I think it gets

33:11

a bad rap. When

33:13

rules analysts hedge though, this

33:17

one irks me. The

33:19

sole purpose of their two purposes in

33:22

my view for the rules analyst, i.e.

33:24

the ex-referee who they put up in the booth. Give

33:28

them a monitor. Let them look at all the replays. The

33:31

two rules for the rules

33:33

analyst is A, explain the rules to us

33:35

like we're dumb dumbs. Here's

33:37

the applicable rule for this moment. Right.

33:40

Yeah. Right. And

33:42

B, give us your opinion on replays. I

33:45

would say for the most part, they're pretty damn good at

33:47

explaining the rules. They do a good job of that. But

33:51

I've seen it happen on multiple

33:53

occasions where they

33:56

show the replay and the rules analyst

33:58

is unwilling to pick a side. Yeah.

34:01

And I don't know if it's because they don't want to be wrong, because

34:03

nobody wants to be wrong, let's be honest. Or

34:06

if they're just like trying not

34:08

to be controversial. But the

34:10

whole reason, half of the reason for that

34:12

person to be up there and

34:14

have that microphone is to take a

34:16

side on some of these questionable decisions.

34:19

Right. When they don't, that bothers me. I

34:22

put that one through. Yeah, and you can, I'll

34:25

put it through too. And what you can

34:27

do if you are, you know, Mike Pereira, Dean Blandino,

34:29

any of these guys is you

34:32

can very plainly state that

34:34

this is a difficult call because,

34:37

because they're bobbling it as they go out

34:39

of bounds. This is purely

34:41

a judgment call by the replay official.

34:44

I say no catch, right? That

34:46

you can, it's not hedging, but

34:48

it's sort of describing why it's

34:51

difficult. Here's how I would

34:53

call it. That

34:55

to me is acceptable, but that's not always the reality.

34:59

All right, let's move on. We've got, we're halfway through

35:01

here. It's going to

35:03

start moving quick. I promise. Let's do it. I've

35:05

done this before. I know how to pace it. Trust

35:08

me. I'm ready. Uniforms that blend in

35:10

with the turf versus players throwing punches at

35:13

helmeted opponents. Okay,

35:16

so I'm not colorblind. So

35:19

I'll go with the latter. You

35:22

don't always have to be. There

35:25

have been shades of green and

35:27

then Boise State blue. I

35:29

don't know if we've had like an Eastern Washington

35:31

moment or a Coastal Carolina moment. We have some

35:34

alt colors that aren't green or blue. I'm

35:37

not colorblind, so this isn't as emotional

35:40

an item for me. So

35:42

I think I'm going to have punching a

35:44

hard helmet. That's

35:47

more funny than annoying, but if it's your guy

35:49

and he breaks his hand doing that. That's the

35:51

thing. Or if he gets penalized for

35:54

it. Maybe gets penalized. Yeah.

35:56

Throwing the punch at the helmeted opponent to me. It's

35:59

more of a head. This is sort of a

36:01

head scratcher sub-region, okay?

36:04

Mm-hmm. Players throwing punches at the

36:06

helmet. That goes through. Next

36:08

up, the quarterback who

36:11

is notably not Patrick Mahomes, believing

36:13

himself to be Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.

36:16

Versus the wrap and slip out

36:18

sacks. Explain these

36:20

two to our verballerhood, Dan. Quarterbacks

36:24

being sacked is right-handed, and his only way

36:26

of getting the ball out is throwing the

36:28

ball straight up with his left hand. Yeah.

36:31

Not my favorite thing. That's pretty major, though. I don't

36:33

even know if that's minor annoyance in watching a game.

36:36

But it's anything where it's just like, I am

36:39

going to do something as the

36:42

ninth most competent Big Ten

36:45

quarterback that only

36:47

a Hall of Famer can maybe pull off.

36:50

I appreciate the balls. I

36:52

appreciate the mindset

36:54

of, like, I got to do anything possible to

36:57

help this team win. But

36:59

sometimes, just throw it out of

37:01

bounds, sometimes take a sack, taking sacks better than

37:03

throwing an interception, that's

37:06

awful. And then what was the other one?

37:08

Wrap up and slip out sacks. That

37:12

happens. That to me is my winner.

37:14

That to me is like a player who

37:16

has done everything right to beat the right

37:19

tackle, to, you know, swing their hip towards

37:21

the quarterback, and then to be

37:25

teased with the upcoming reality of

37:27

a sack and

37:29

then have a wriggle away. That

37:33

to me, when I think about these two things, because

37:35

the former happens so infrequently,

37:37

but I feel like the wriggle

37:39

away non-sack, that is something

37:42

I don't get past. There are a lot

37:44

of quarterbacks out there who try to play hero ball. And

37:48

I think a lot of quarterbacks, certainly in today's day

37:50

and age, that have been influenced by Pat Mahomes and

37:52

what he can do. And

37:54

so there's a lot more of the, I

37:57

saw a clip floating around social media, Mack

37:59

Jones is working. on no look passes

38:01

too. Why not? He will need that

38:03

as a backup for the Jaguars, right?

38:05

Let's just work on nailing his look

38:08

passes. Let's work on the look passes.

38:10

Yeah. Yeah. But there's a lot of

38:12

that going on right now. But the

38:14

wrap up and slip out sack, the

38:17

wriggle away. I'm jotting that down. The

38:19

wriggle away. Yeah. Wriggle away is

38:21

pretty good to me. So that one moves on. Okay. Next

38:24

up, we have a

38:26

clash of, I would say Titans, Dan. Okay.

38:30

If I'm venturing, I guess one of these two

38:32

comes out of this

38:34

little sub pot. Yeah. Yeah. It's

38:37

a matchup between kick catch interference and

38:40

the midfield fourth and short

38:43

punt. Plus, plus important caveat.

38:45

The announcers also applauding it. Had

38:48

to do it, chip. Had to do it. The

38:55

fourth and one from the 49 with plenty of

38:57

time left. You got a punt. You got a

38:59

punt and trust your defense. The

39:01

announcer applauding it. I

39:03

think it's the kicker. Ultimately, that's

39:05

the right move. Yeah.

39:09

It's tough there, but that's the right call. Yeah.

39:16

Catch interference is really a pain in the ass though.

39:18

Don't know how you can ask an offense to gain literally

39:20

a yard. I don't

39:24

see it. I don't see it. Call me old school.

39:27

The thing about the announcers when they applaud

39:29

it. Yeah. It

39:32

always comes from like this deep gunner

39:34

role, almost philosophical belief

39:36

that this is the only way to

39:38

play it. Yeah.

39:41

And every now and again, it comes at

39:43

odds with some

39:45

graphic that they're putting up on the screen

39:47

or something that the play by play

39:50

analyst calls out that

39:52

talks about the analytics of the situation. You know what

39:54

I mean? Yeah. 26% of

39:56

the time on fourth and less than

39:58

yard. Go. For it. I

40:00

don't know what the percentage is. I just made that up going

40:03

for it. We'll yield the first down We

40:05

got to go you got to punt it you got a pun in

40:07

this situation got turned over your defense defense We play well the whole

40:09

game. I Think

40:11

this is the one that goes through Yeah,

40:14

well this there's generally some sort

40:16

of illusion to I know

40:19

the analytics say go That's

40:22

right. Exactly and and you know, and it's just

40:24

like, you know I don't think you got it

40:26

You don't trust moments like these to the math

40:28

dorks in the building. That's right There

40:33

was a little bit of clad energy to that rep a little bit there

40:35

was a little bit of clad in that yeah and

40:38

so yeah, that's that's the one where

40:41

Look, there are and I'm a big believer right

40:44

that like all fourth and

40:46

ones from midfield are not created

40:48

equal that You know, there are

40:50

extenuating circumstances There are reasons to

40:52

punt or there are reasons to consider punting even

40:54

if you go for it but

40:58

It does seem like there is this automatic

41:01

aversion to aggression

41:03

and when a team

41:05

goes for it which Generally

41:08

speaking the math will say in

41:11

a lot of these moments it you know It's 70% or 80% like that

41:16

There's this aversion to aggression from the

41:18

announcers and if a team doesn't get

41:20

it They use that as

41:23

a reason that they were

41:25

right, right that right. It's not process

41:27

its results It's you know, and so

41:30

that to me it's almost like

41:32

expected now But

41:34

I do love it when a team Correctly

41:36

goes for it. The announcer says I don't

41:38

know about that Tim and then they get

41:40

it and then they just sort of have

41:42

to Pretend like they just didn't agree with

41:44

it. Yeah, and and the flip side to

41:46

this now in the day and age of

41:48

like Lane Kiffin Who has

41:50

been very aggressive on fourth down? You

41:53

have a lot more of this When

41:56

announcers are calling calling Lane Kiffin games

41:58

Ole Miss games, right? course because

42:01

it's it's so Patently

42:04

obvious that he's gonna be going for in some

42:06

of these situations and announcers in a sense have

42:08

to bite their lip Did

42:10

not be too anti Even

42:12

though we know they all are they all

42:14

look I I root for a team that

42:16

was overly aggressive and Didn't kick

42:18

a field goal after a turnover right before the

42:21

half that ultimately could have been a

42:23

difference in the game the Oregon Washington game this year

42:25

and You have to pick

42:27

your spots you have to pick your moments to take

42:29

points depending on the clock depending on

42:31

the situation I fully agree

42:34

with you don't need to go all-gas

42:36

no breaks every play or every decision

42:39

but I'm always gonna err on the

42:41

side of trusting your

42:43

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44:19

Or. I'd this last one here. We've got wasted

44:21

time outs coming back to bite your team lead.

44:24

versus. A bizarre two point

44:26

attempt. Okay,

44:29

so both sort of related to the last

44:31

match up. both sort of related arm they're

44:33

They're all kind of. Related

44:35

semantically here in this sub

44:37

pod. But. The wasted time

44:40

outs thing. I feel has

44:42

been a and annoying and since the

44:44

beginning of time. The

44:46

Us is all. This is all under the

44:48

umbrella category of bad clock management. The

44:51

bizarre two point attempt to me. Is.

44:54

An interesting. Conversation.

44:57

M What I mean by this is.

45:00

Wheels. Game situations where the coach just

45:02

sorted decides he's feeling himself, he's gonna

45:04

go for it. It

45:07

doesn't necessarily make sense. To.

45:09

Draw the lead down to five points.

45:12

right? But. We're gonna do it

45:14

anyway. And then when they misapplying, Kelly's had

45:16

a few of these in his coaching younger.

45:19

Market. For it's an organ server. it's like

45:21

we're gonna. We're gonna go for it. And

45:23

it doesn't work. So be it. It

45:26

will set us back nine points his oppose.

45:28

So now three, but we're just reef We

45:30

feel it were going for it anyway. What?

45:34

Says you. So.

45:37

Bizarre. Two. Point

45:39

but with the other one bizarre two

45:41

point decision vs wasted time outs coming

45:43

back to bite you late. Oh.

45:46

Man. It

45:49

leaves you kind of know it's you have

45:51

to deal with when you wasted time out

45:53

and you can adjust accordingly. It does annoy

45:55

me right? that's you know team can't get

45:57

sad or that there's too many players on

45:59

the field. It like it's it's

46:01

coaching and procedural so it's annoying

46:03

on the coaches non a silly

46:05

on the quarterback not paying attention

46:07

to the game clock. So I'm

46:09

gonna go with bizarre two point

46:11

conversion play. Just.

46:14

Because the worst of those is a quarterback

46:16

rolling out, not seeing anybody and like buying

46:18

time and the deceiving it towards the end

46:20

zone. Doubt that somebody comes down with the

46:22

tipped pass. young. I'm it when it doesn't

46:24

seem like there's a plan so I'm gonna

46:27

go without one. I'm gonna go with that

46:29

the bizarre two point play feel. It's called

46:31

a bizarre two points situation because it, yeah,

46:34

What? What we're calling out here is the

46:36

full decision tree. Have not already decided to

46:38

go for everything going for did not really

46:40

having a plan otherwise. Right

46:42

Final. Classification here. we will

46:44

just call these head scratchers. Okay.

46:47

Right? Consistently. Awful

46:50

snapping. Vs

46:52

Glottal Us fumbles. Okay,

46:56

so these are two and three that I

46:58

came up with. Consistently Awful. Snapping is my

47:00

number one overall. Because.

47:06

I. Every center that are lineman

47:08

okay and it's a specialized role in

47:10

which centers snap the ball leave him

47:12

before the snap the ball right the

47:14

generally calling out the france to communicate

47:17

with the rest the offensive line. Is

47:20

a difficult position to play and difficult

47:22

position to master sir. But if you're

47:24

center cannot snap the ball. Alabama went

47:26

through this with their team or the

47:28

Rose Bowl this year and a lot

47:30

of teams at some point in time

47:32

will have a center who is either

47:34

you know, air mailing it be. An

47:36

owl six feet above the quarterbacks head

47:38

or rocketing it right at their sins

47:40

or me out during the ball, right

47:42

to the quarterback. For some reason that

47:44

and you liked called the eps right?

47:46

That was yes or no Or yes.

47:48

This is all. Yep, Cf. The.

47:51

The thing that is. So.

47:54

Easy. it's again this is another marijuana for

47:56

me. Is. You.

47:58

can't even started playing You

48:00

can't even give yourself an opportunity.

48:03

And so if you go into a

48:05

play and your center has been having

48:08

issues snapping the ball all quarter long,

48:10

all drive long, all game long, whatever,

48:12

and you go into a third and six and

48:16

you have to on all of the third and

48:18

sixes have it in the back of your mind that

48:20

I don't know if our

48:22

center can start this play correctly.

48:26

That to me lasts the entire game.

48:28

I have sleepless nights because of this as an Oregon fan

48:31

with the 2015 Alamo Bowl. All

48:34

of these moments of having

48:37

a center, even if it

48:39

just happens once a game, then it's in your

48:42

head, it's in your mind as a fan that

48:44

at any given moment this could

48:46

happen again and completely tank this drive

48:48

or this game or whatever. So,

48:53

that's my number one in this bracket. Gloveless

48:55

Fumbles is funny to say. It

48:58

is a funny, I had that as an Oregon fan

49:00

as well with a running back. But yeah, that happens,

49:02

you'll see that sometimes where a returner,

49:04

a running back, a receiver, whatever,

49:08

just gets the ball punched out. And that

49:10

happens, but when they

49:13

don't take all precautions to

49:15

keep a tight grip on the ball, and I don't know

49:17

if you've ever worn like a modern college football glove, those

49:20

things are sticky. They're very sticky. They're

49:22

very tough to not hold onto a

49:24

ball with. That's

49:26

a tough one for me that you paired those two because

49:29

I was prepared to let out

49:31

some steam on that, but it's

49:33

the snap and yips for

49:35

me. Yeah, I mean, second base is also

49:37

hard to master. Middle infield

49:39

is a difficult spot on the baseball diamond

49:42

to master. There is a lot of movement,

49:44

a lot of covering second base. But the

49:46

ball hit to you, there's motion to it.

49:48

There's a lot going on, I agree. But

49:51

if you can't throw the ball to first, that

49:54

seems to be one of the more important

49:56

elements of playing second base. So

50:00

Maybe there's a little bit of Chuck Knoblock

50:02

here, but consistent, awful snapping. Let's

50:05

be fair. Let's be fair to the centers who

50:07

have had issues snapping the ball. If

50:10

you or I were,

50:12

if somebody snapped their fingers, and

50:15

we were suddenly holding a

50:17

football at the line of scrimmage and

50:19

staring at Albert Haynesworth, right, directly

50:22

in front of us, looking to disembowel us,

50:25

maybe our snaps wouldn't be the best ever. This

50:28

is fair. This is fair. That's part of the

50:30

position. Part of the position. You don't sign

50:32

up for that position if you can't get the ball to the

50:34

quarterback. Okay, a clearly

50:36

uncatchable ball, ruled catchable, mentioned

50:40

this a little bit earlier, versus the

50:42

needless reverse field or backwards running ending

50:45

in a loss, possibly a killer

50:48

play. So this is basically, we

50:51

mentioned this earlier, okay? It's the uncatchable

50:53

ball, maybe it's ruled catchable, maybe there's

50:55

interference on the play as well, versus

50:59

just somebody out there. This

51:02

is not unlike the Pat Mahomes one we mentioned

51:05

earlier, where somebody's out there

51:07

just trying to make a play, and in

51:09

reality, they end up making it. I am

51:11

also Tyreek Hill. Yeah, exactly. Exactly,

51:15

yeah. To

51:18

me, it's the second one.

51:20

It is the reversible, or

51:22

the irreversible, but still reversed

51:25

play. The one that

51:27

makes this, the situation that makes this one

51:29

the worst, is when you only need

51:31

three yards. Totally. You

51:34

only need three yards, it's like a counter. The

51:37

running back gets it, nowhere to go. Instead of just trying to

51:39

fall forward for a yard and a half and get to the

51:41

next play, they instead try to

51:43

go full Barry Sanders or Saquon Barkley.

51:45

Reverse the field, there's daylight on the

51:48

other side of the field. Nevermind that

51:50

everybody else is just as fast. We're

51:52

gonna try for it anyway. And now suddenly it's fourth

51:55

and 18. It's

51:59

infuriating. It'll happen a lot

52:01

with a receiver catching the ball with

52:03

his back to a defense and

52:05

merely needs to turn around and fall

52:07

forward. Or merely needs to turn

52:09

around and take two steps and get out of bounds

52:12

for an easy routine first down. And

52:14

then they're trying to also be a

52:16

Mari Cooper. Um, or

52:19

yes, it is, uh, a

52:22

running back, taking a sweep and

52:24

there's just nothing there. Take the two yard loss

52:26

and move on to second and 12. Or

52:29

the running back says, now let's see what it's

52:31

doing on the other side. Let's

52:33

go. Especially when you're, you're playing

52:36

it's Georgia. When the, the far

52:38

side outside linebacker is just staying home

52:41

because he's great and well coached

52:43

and just sitting there waiting for an eight yard

52:45

loss. And suddenly it's second and 16 and

52:48

the calculus changes for no reason other

52:50

than the fact that this running

52:52

back for South

52:55

Carolina, this running back for Delaware, this, whoever

52:57

I don't know why I lumped in South

52:59

Carolina and Delaware, all due respect to each

53:01

of those programs, um, decided

53:03

that like, no, they are, as you mentioned,

53:06

Barry Sanders, I got 43 speed baby. I

53:08

got 43 speed. Well, they, a

53:11

lot of it is like, Oh, this worked in

53:13

high school. So surely it's going to work Sanford

53:16

stadium. Yeah. All right. Two more quick ones

53:18

here. You, you put shovel

53:20

passes down. Oh, I just hate

53:22

shovel passes. Yeah. Shovel passes

53:25

versus the improvised lateral

53:28

on a long touchdown run or interception

53:31

return. Well, I guess it wouldn't

53:33

be a touchdown run, but on a long run, long run,

53:35

long run. Okay. Well, look, it's the

53:37

Reggie Bush rule. Um, it's

53:42

the, both of these just

53:44

fall under the umbrella of needless

53:46

danger to me where like shovel

53:50

passes can work, but a

53:52

lot of those like shovel least screens

53:54

require letting in a defensive

53:56

tackle or two and just

53:58

sort of pushing the ball. underneath their

54:00

arms to an awaiting, you know, receiver,

54:03

tight end, running back, whoever, and

54:05

you're sort of throwing it also into the teeth of

54:07

the line of scrimmage, and it

54:09

just feels like many more bad things can

54:11

happen. The best of the bad things is

54:14

it's caught and the guy's immediately

54:16

tackled for no game. Now

54:19

you can catch a defense off

54:21

guard and sometimes when it works

54:24

though, it

54:26

really works. Of course, it's just

54:29

there is so much that can go wrong when

54:31

you have a quarterback, you do an underhand flip

54:34

where it suddenly just seems like they're

54:36

throwing a knuckleball that somebody who's

54:38

used to catching a ball thrown with a

54:40

hard spiral like now needs to catch like

54:43

a soft efis and turn and run while

54:45

they're in the middle of the line of

54:47

scrimmage, like while they're in the middle of

54:49

chaos. If you can do it, great. I

54:52

just never trust my team to pull it

54:54

off. So I hate it. At

54:59

least that's the old play though. That's

55:01

the improvised lateral, I think, is

55:04

mine. Just

55:06

because more often than not, the

55:08

guy who's supposed to be receiving it does not

55:10

know it's about to come his way. I agree.

55:12

I'm agreeing. I agree with you,

55:14

especially because if you're

55:17

already having a plus moment with an

55:19

interception, like, Oh my God, we just

55:22

flipped the rhythm of this game

55:25

and we're gonna take it. We're not gonna

55:27

score on this return, but we're gonna grab

55:29

a bunch of yardage. We're gonna flip the

55:31

fields and what a what a moment

55:33

for our defense. And then that safety

55:36

says, why don't we just keep it

55:38

going? Okay. What if we just give

55:40

this? Well, speaking of speaking of defensive

55:42

backs, our final first round matchup here,

55:45

and I promise we will get through

55:47

this very quickly. Yeah.

55:50

We've got the post first down

55:53

celebration by a defensive back. Yeah.

55:56

Versus the defensive back missing one

55:58

of those shoulder launch tackles instead

56:01

of doing the fundamental wrap-up. So

56:04

on one hand, guy just got

56:06

a first down, but we're gonna celebrate anyway. On

56:09

the other, you should have just wrapped him up and tackled

56:11

him, but instead you go to- Yeah, the receiver bounces off,

56:13

yeah. Yeah, you try to spear him and he just bounces

56:15

off, you feel like it's no big deal. Right.

56:19

I think the celebration is the one that gets me. Yeah,

56:24

one of the annoying ones infuriating. And so

56:26

I think this celebration one is more annoying

56:29

because you could be giving up

56:31

a touchdown when you could have tackled him for an

56:34

eight yard gain. So I'm gonna go with the annoying one because I

56:36

feel like it's more in the spirit of this. All

56:39

right, back to the top, Dan. It's gonna move quick,

56:41

now. All right, you ready? Lightning, yep. The

56:43

pointless drive extending penalty versus

56:45

throwing short of the sticks.

56:50

Drive killing penalty. I

56:52

agree. Then we've

56:54

got the fourth down goal line fade. Drive

56:56

extending, excuse me. Drive extend. Goal

56:58

line fade on fourth down versus trying to draw

57:01

a team offside. This is the fade, right? It's

57:03

fade, yep. And then we've got the

57:05

pointless drive extending penalty versus the fourth down

57:08

goal line fade. Penalty.

57:15

To me, if this is a struggle for you, then

57:18

you don't remember a recent instance in

57:21

which a defensive lineman pointlessly

57:23

shoved a quarterback after he threw it

57:25

six yards over somebody's head. Okay,

57:28

let's go. For 15 yards and the team scores.

57:30

I'll go with the drive extending penalty. It is

57:32

infuriating. Okay, I agree with that. Yeah.

57:35

All right, next one. 480p

57:37

versus the LED

57:39

light situation. 480p.

57:43

The lights blinking generally only happens after

57:45

touchdowns or between like third and fourth

57:47

quarter during like Dixieland to light. 480p

57:51

is an entire game. I am snobby. I

57:53

am used to my high resolution

57:55

because it also generally is paired

57:58

with dubious.

58:00

announcing bad replay and

58:03

you just you can't see and

58:06

this is again this is us being old but

58:08

if you pay for a good TV you

58:10

want the network to say congratulations on your

58:12

TV here's a broadcast that fits in accordingly

58:14

well and the problem with 480p on a

58:16

nice TV is that it almost makes it

58:18

worse of course it does

58:21

you know 480p on a 32-inch TV

58:23

is fine but you blow

58:25

that up to twice the size you

58:28

might as well listen to Morse code you're not getting

58:30

anything out of that broadcast so I

58:32

think it's 480p I think 480p is the winner

58:34

here I'm glad that we put the LED light

58:36

situation through and called that out and for what

58:38

it is but at the end of

58:41

the day you can watch the game you just can't

58:43

watch it well 480p moves through for me I

58:46

yeah I mean I think there was a sign-salled

58:48

moment like this but I think about like handing

58:50

a marathon or hot soup that's right here she

58:53

is on mile 18 dominating you're like look it

58:56

technically yes is fuel it technically

58:58

yes is a game but this

59:00

was meant for something greater I

59:03

agree okay moment yeah networks not

59:05

showing an obvious replay versus

59:09

rules analysts who hedge

59:14

obvious replay you think I

59:17

do ultimately the

59:20

you lose more from

59:22

not seeing a moment then like

59:25

the rules analyst is so hold on the actual game

59:27

I guess neither does mine

59:29

but yeah I agree but can't the same

59:32

logic be applied to the rules analyst as

59:35

the centers the centers

59:37

who infuriate you because it can't snap the

59:39

ball isn't snapping the ball part

59:41

of the job isn't

59:43

taking a side on some of these

59:46

key game points also

59:48

part of the job for the rules analyst no

59:53

team has lost a game for a fan

59:56

base because of a

59:58

rules analyst being Wrong or

1:00:00

hedging no team is lost because of not showing

1:00:02

an obvious replay either No,

1:00:05

but that it I think

1:00:07

it affects it more directly affects

1:00:09

enjoyment when you don't know what

1:00:11

happened where whereas with a hedging

1:00:13

personality It's just sort of

1:00:16

An annoying moment in time But

1:00:19

doesn't affect the outcome. Um,

1:00:21

or it doesn't affect your Appreciation

1:00:24

for what's happening on the field to me. All

1:00:27

right We'll go with the obvious replay because

1:00:29

both of these Bob these are both mine both

1:00:32

of these were mine. They both bother me

1:00:34

I'm okay with either one the rules

1:00:36

analysts who hedge Is

1:00:38

one of those things that may only interest me? That's

1:00:41

okay, but okay. Not showing the obvious

1:00:44

replay. That's that's definitely in the conversation

1:00:46

So we'll put that one through and

1:00:48

that means it's 480p versus networks not

1:00:50

showing an obvious replay. This

1:00:52

is 480p, right? Right 480p,

1:00:56

yeah. All right. Next one

1:00:59

players throwing punches at helmeted

1:01:02

opponents versus the

1:01:04

wriggle away I

1:01:06

think we go wriggle away here. Don't I think i'm going

1:01:08

wriggle away. Yeah, the wriggle away is

1:01:10

so infuriating. Yeah the

1:01:13

midfield Fourth and short

1:01:15

punts and the announcers applauding

1:01:17

it Mm-hmm. This is

1:01:20

a strong two continual versus the

1:01:22

bizarre two-point decision Oh

1:01:25

the fourth down I think it's got to be

1:01:27

fourth down right? Yeah because it speaks to

1:01:30

a philosophy Yeah, um, whereas I think weird

1:01:32

a weird fourth down play is weird and

1:01:34

maybe it's not called again And we just

1:01:36

all agree to forget about it but

1:01:39

The the experience of watching it and

1:01:41

then having an announcer reinforce the the

1:01:44

announcer reinforcing it cheering it on is

1:01:46

I think That's like

1:01:48

that's the kicker here No,

1:01:52

we've got or maybe it was we've got the

1:01:54

wriggle away versus the fourth and short punt plus

1:01:56

the announcer applauding it Oh, this

1:01:58

is tough I think it's gotta be the

1:02:01

punt situation with the announcer cheering it on.

1:02:04

Don't you? I'm good with that. Yeah. I

1:02:07

think it's gotta be. The wriggle away deserves to be

1:02:09

in this matchup. It's a very

1:02:12

strong matchup, but I gotta go with the midfield

1:02:15

punt with the announcer. Killed

1:02:18

me every time. All right, final bracket

1:02:20

here. The consistently awful snap

1:02:22

in your number one overall seed versus

1:02:25

the needless reversal of field or backwards running,

1:02:27

which ends up in a loss. Oh

1:02:30

man, this is really tough for me. Eventually a backbreaker.

1:02:32

These are, these were all of yours here. Okay.

1:02:36

So inconsistent snapping versus needless

1:02:39

reversal of field. Yeah.

1:02:44

I'm going to say snapping real close.

1:02:46

Double OT. Gotta be snapping, right? Yeah.

1:02:50

I love the specificity of the reversal of field though

1:02:52

with this. Like I feel like that was perfect. You

1:02:54

know, I'm patting myself on the back here. I'll try

1:02:56

not to throw out my wrist. Well,

1:02:59

here's the thing here. Here is why the inconsistent

1:03:01

snapping needs to go through here. It

1:03:04

needs to go through because sometimes

1:03:07

when a player reverses field, it

1:03:10

works through. Sometimes

1:03:12

it works famously. Some of the best

1:03:15

plays we've seen in the history of college football

1:03:18

have come as a result of that decision. So

1:03:20

they're not all bad, but the

1:03:22

awful snapping thing. You

1:03:25

know it when you see it and

1:03:28

it almost never works out well.

1:03:31

Well, and it also doesn't like course correct over the

1:03:33

course of a game. Exactly. And you

1:03:35

can see it happening. I mean, anyone who watched any of the

1:03:37

Alabama games last year, right? Knows what

1:03:40

happens. And it's like, you see this occurring

1:03:42

time and again throughout the course of a game

1:03:44

more often than not. It doesn't come back to

1:03:47

bite you, but sometimes I E

1:03:49

last play of the game, two point conversion

1:03:51

attempt. You just you can see that

1:03:53

getting bigger in the window. Yeah. And

1:03:56

it's that sort of feeling of impending doom that

1:03:58

puts this one through for me. Okay. I'm

1:04:00

same page, but yeah, it was tough for me.

1:04:03

And the final one here is

1:04:05

the improvised lateral on the long

1:04:07

run or interception return versus the

1:04:09

post first down defensive back celebration.

1:04:14

Improvised. Well, improvised. On the same spirit though,

1:04:17

but the improvised can work. You

1:04:20

can have an improvised like hook and ladder.

1:04:22

Oh, that's true. That gets

1:04:24

you more yardage, gets you significantly more yardage,

1:04:26

gets you a touchdown. Like it

1:04:29

can work. It has worked. So

1:04:31

you want to put the defensive back celebration through.

1:04:34

I'm going to say, uh, a

1:04:36

safety coming up and hitting a receiver who just

1:04:39

caught a 24 yard pass for a

1:04:41

first time for a first down, uh, and

1:04:44

having the DB jump up and celebrate

1:04:46

his big tackle after a big offensive

1:04:48

play. Wow. I think that fits it

1:04:51

better for me because I don't think

1:04:53

there's any positive from that

1:04:55

post post first down defensive back celebrations

1:04:57

wasn't even going to be in this

1:04:59

tournament. It went on an NC state

1:05:01

like run. Yeah. And they just did

1:05:03

the tournament. So, uh, I

1:05:06

think it ends here though, because the DB

1:05:09

celebration is going up against inconsistent

1:05:11

snapping. Yeah.

1:05:13

Snapping. I have that moving forward. Yep. Which

1:05:15

means we've got our final four on this

1:05:17

side of the bracket. I guess overall the

1:05:20

elite eight, we've got

1:05:22

the pointless drive extending penalty

1:05:24

versus four ADP broadcasts. And

1:05:29

we've also got the fourth down punch situation at

1:05:31

midfield with the announcers

1:05:36

applauding it versus awful snapping. That's

1:05:39

your lead on this side. Okay. I have, I

1:05:41

have, um, penalty killing

1:05:44

drive stop over four ADP.

1:05:47

You can still win games in four ADP. Your

1:05:50

team can still win a game with like

1:05:52

weird, uh, pixelated

1:05:56

end zones. You

1:05:58

can still win a game with the drive. penalty.

1:06:01

You can, but it does not annoy the

1:06:03

crap out of you as a fan. I

1:06:06

think your eyes adjust and

1:06:08

I don't think the brain forgets a penalty

1:06:10

killing or a penalty

1:06:13

extending drive. I would agree with

1:06:15

that. What do you think between

1:06:17

the midfield punt

1:06:19

with the announcer applauding it versus

1:06:22

the consistently awful snapping? Yeah,

1:06:26

one is rooted in broadcast, one is rooted

1:06:28

in player. The

1:06:32

fourth and short punt drives me up. I'm

1:06:36

not even gonna say what I'm saying. The words, it drives me

1:06:38

up a tree. When

1:06:41

those guys applaud it, it's

1:06:44

very infuriating. The

1:06:47

awful snapping might be a little bit more innocuous.

1:06:53

So if we're defining this by which

1:06:55

makes our feel more,

1:06:58

what gets our brain racing, our hearts

1:07:00

racing, or whatever, I... This

1:07:03

one is

1:07:08

tough. This is tough. This is

1:07:10

a pick up. What

1:07:13

is the spirit of this

1:07:15

game? I'm gonna say it's

1:07:17

fourth down. I

1:07:21

don't know, maybe it's a personal thing. The combination

1:07:25

of not giving an offense

1:07:27

a chance to keep going

1:07:30

and keep doing good things if they've gotten

1:07:32

to midfield and it's fourth and short and

1:07:35

then feel like you're being gaslit by

1:07:37

the broadcast booth. That's C and that

1:07:39

was gonna be my question. That

1:07:41

gaslighting, which is a great way to put it. Yeah.

1:07:44

If this were just a fourth down

1:07:46

and short punt from midfield on its

1:07:48

own, without

1:07:50

the announcer chiming in, would

1:07:53

this have gone as far? Probably

1:07:56

not. It's that combination, that

1:07:59

one-two. That combo. That specific

1:08:01

combo. I think I agree with you. And

1:08:03

there's something about the

1:08:06

center not snapping it consistently well

1:08:08

or consistently screwing it up where

1:08:11

there's at least something sympathetic about that.

1:08:14

Where usually this guy is

1:08:16

fine, but for whatever reason

1:08:18

today he's just off and can't figure

1:08:21

it out. He just... If you remove

1:08:23

your... You got the ifs. If

1:08:25

you remove your fandom then

1:08:28

at least as a human you can

1:08:30

say, that sucks. I

1:08:32

feel bad. Now that's a big

1:08:34

if if you can remove fandom. That's right. I

1:08:36

have some moments where I'm not going to

1:08:39

remove my fandom. But at

1:08:41

least that's a kid not

1:08:44

being able to get through it. I'm

1:08:48

going to go with... That's a little bit more

1:08:50

sympathetic. I'm going to go

1:08:52

with fourth and one. Not going for an adult, not

1:08:54

going for it. Adults in the booth saying, I love

1:08:58

it. I love this punt choice. All

1:09:00

right. So it's fourth and one on

1:09:02

the 50. I decide to punt it. And

1:09:05

the announcers cheer on

1:09:07

my decision versus

1:09:09

the pointless drive extending

1:09:11

penalty. That

1:09:14

is for the championship on our two sides

1:09:16

of the bracket. So

1:09:19

this is our national championship right now. This

1:09:21

is just on our side of things. Now we're

1:09:23

hopeful that the Verballerhood

1:09:26

will chime in with its two cents. Right. Okay. This

1:09:28

episode's championship. Yeah. And give us 32 more items that

1:09:31

we can roll with on our next episode. But

1:09:36

on this side of the bracket, pointless

1:09:38

drive extending penalty versus the midfield

1:09:42

punt situation with the cheerful announcer.

1:09:47

This is tough. This is really tough. Okay.

1:09:50

So look, I could apply the same

1:09:52

logic, you know, being sympathetic about the

1:09:54

center to saying, you know, this edge

1:09:56

rusher shoving a quarterback and

1:09:58

getting like a totally point. pointless, roughing

1:10:02

the passer is

1:10:04

a just a youthful

1:10:06

mistake. And it won't happen again

1:10:08

in that game, so it's not a consistent thing

1:10:10

like the snapping. And, you know,

1:10:12

maybe he'll get chewed out by a position coach

1:10:14

or a head coach or something like that for

1:10:16

a brutal mistake. That

1:10:21

said, the

1:10:25

visual of maybe

1:10:27

not even seeing it happen, right?

1:10:30

Maybe you're really hoping, you're obviously really hoping

1:10:32

when you're rooting for a defense that you're

1:10:34

able to get a stop and get off

1:10:36

the field. Third and

1:10:38

16, you're pumped that your team got

1:10:40

this offense to a tough spot. And

1:10:43

all you see on TV is

1:10:45

the bad throw and you don't actually see

1:10:47

the shove. And

1:10:49

then the announcers say, wait, looks like

1:10:52

there's some laundry in the backfield. And

1:10:55

it's the idea that this is bringing

1:10:57

you down from a high. Can you

1:10:59

give me a little McDonough laundry in

1:11:01

the backfield? Right, right. It looks like

1:11:03

there's a flag on the way. That

1:11:07

the process of excitement

1:11:11

and then that blending into rage,

1:11:16

I think penalty

1:11:18

extending personal foul

1:11:20

or a drive extending

1:11:22

personal foul is

1:11:26

the thing that defines

1:11:29

my grievance with the sport. I

1:11:32

really do. I think that's what I have moving on. What about

1:11:34

you? I'm tempted to

1:11:36

go forth and short on

1:11:39

the blending situation because, you know,

1:11:43

we define this bracket as

1:11:46

minor grievances. True.

1:11:49

Minor grievances. So minor grievances aren't necessarily things

1:11:51

that cost the game, but in both cases

1:11:53

now, the items that have made it through

1:11:56

can cost games. The drive extending

1:11:58

penalty can cost a team

1:12:01

of game, a game. Conversely, being

1:12:03

very risk averse and punting

1:12:06

in a situation where you could go for it and probably make

1:12:08

it 85% of the time, that

1:12:10

is also another situation that can cost you a

1:12:13

game. I think the added component

1:12:15

of the announcer applauding it, the

1:12:18

announcer cheering this on as if

1:12:21

you should know this as you're watching at home. Right.

1:12:24

More often than not, in the moment, these

1:12:28

types of scenarios don't occur fourth

1:12:31

quarter with two minutes left. They

1:12:34

occur first quarter with like eight and

1:12:36

a half minutes left. They occur in

1:12:38

the first half when the game is tied at zero

1:12:40

and it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot on

1:12:42

the line. Yeah. In

1:12:44

every situation, this is

1:12:47

annoying. It is annoying and probably

1:12:49

more often than not, it does not come

1:12:51

back to bite the offending team. But

1:12:53

the fact that the announcer cheers it on and

1:12:56

acts as if, hey, if you're watching at home,

1:12:58

you should know this. That

1:13:00

to me, I think puts this one over the

1:13:02

top. Yeah. And it can happen multiple

1:13:04

times. And I suppose a drive

1:13:06

extending penalty can happen multiple times,

1:13:09

but usually not with the same player and usually

1:13:11

not like in the same way. Um, there

1:13:14

is something about a team losing by

1:13:16

four and then you go back and

1:13:18

look at their drives and

1:13:21

they kick it. They punt on fourth and two

1:13:23

at, you know, in plus territory on their opponents

1:13:25

47 or then they

1:13:27

go for a field goal on, you

1:13:30

know, fourth and goal from the half inch

1:13:32

line. And like there are, there

1:13:34

is that sort of aggregation of

1:13:37

conservative thinking in big moments that

1:13:39

can lose you a game. Yeah.

1:13:42

And I think, I think that's the thing

1:13:44

here. You know, if we're trying to stay

1:13:46

true to the roots of this whole concept,

1:13:49

a drive extending penalty, you'll

1:13:52

throw the remote at the TV for that. Yeah.

1:13:55

You probably aren't throwing the remote at the

1:13:57

TV for the fourth and short

1:13:59

punt situation. with the announcer applauding it, but

1:14:01

you are rolling your eyes. And

1:14:04

so I think in that, in

1:14:06

that logic alone, I put through the

1:14:09

midfield punt with the announcer applauding it. Yeah,

1:14:11

it can aggregate over the course of a

1:14:13

season. And there's a certain

1:14:16

amount of hopelessness you can feel if it's

1:14:18

been happening for nine games in a row

1:14:21

and your head coach hasn't learned and

1:14:23

you keep losing close

1:14:26

or you keep having

1:14:29

to win close

1:14:31

in games that are freaking you

1:14:33

out against bad teams. Like

1:14:37

there's that lack of when the coach doesn't

1:14:39

have confidence in an offense, it's

1:14:41

sort of it just brings

1:14:43

everything down spirit-wise. So

1:14:45

I think I think I'm convinced. I think I'm

1:14:47

convinced. This might be the first time I've ever

1:14:49

won an argument against you. But

1:14:51

I mean not an argument. Both of

1:14:53

these were my items. A debate, a

1:14:55

debate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're good. I

1:14:58

think you swayed me that there

1:15:00

is that element of the

1:15:04

broadcasters teaming up with, it's like this

1:15:06

old way of thinking there are moments

1:15:08

where punting Matt makes sense for midfield

1:15:10

once again. But

1:15:12

yeah, that you feel like you're

1:15:14

going crazy because you feel like your team should go for

1:15:17

it on fourth and two from the 39, like the opponent's

1:15:20

39. Yeah, yeah. Well, we have the

1:15:22

best punter in the ACC. I'm like,

1:15:24

well, cool. You're

1:15:26

gonna lose this game. Yeah, you're also seven

1:15:28

and five and going to the Mikey Car

1:15:31

Care Bowl. Congratulations. Exactly right. Mikey

1:15:33

Car Care, not a sponsor. Yeah, it's those moments,

1:15:35

right? You're losing winnable games when

1:15:37

you start thinking field position.

1:15:40

Unless you have no offense and the team

1:15:42

you're playing against has no offense and that

1:15:44

will happen, especially in the Big Ten West.

1:15:47

Whatever was the Big Ten West. But outside of

1:15:49

that, I think you

1:15:51

got to give yourself a shot. And there is that

1:15:53

hopelessness that comes with like being a

1:15:55

field position team. More often than

1:15:58

not, the drive extending penalty is

1:16:00

an act of aggression. It's

1:16:02

an act of aggression. This is just

1:16:05

annoyingly passive. And

1:16:07

that's what bothers me the most about it. All right. Same

1:16:09

page. So we've got our

1:16:12

punts for midfield and the announcers applauding

1:16:14

it or the fourth and short inconceivable

1:16:16

punt with the announcer applauding it, making it

1:16:19

through on our side of the college

1:16:23

football minor grievances bracket.

1:16:26

Yeah, which were sort of medium grievance.

1:16:28

Medium grievance. More than that, but

1:16:30

yeah. SolidVerbal.gmail.com is the

1:16:32

email. Send us your

1:16:34

lists. I promise I will go through

1:16:37

them. Either via the email or

1:16:39

across social media. Snail mail

1:16:41

probably won't get here in time. Otherwise I

1:16:43

would offer that up as a solution. But

1:16:45

if you want Ty's address, just drop it

1:16:47

in the mailbox. Drop it in the mailbox,

1:16:49

sure. Yeah. Just address it, Solid Verbal.

1:16:51

They'll know where to send it. No. Yeah.

1:16:54

Right in, we wanna get your options here.

1:16:56

I'm sure there are many things that we

1:16:58

left out. We will bracket them into

1:17:00

a separate grouping

1:17:03

of 32 teams, 32

1:17:05

items. That is your homework

1:17:07

assignment. I was a little

1:17:09

surprised you didn't have an item that you came up

1:17:11

with, which was like 10 men

1:17:13

on the field when your defense has a

1:17:15

huge moment. Okay, okay, okay. Maybe that's too

1:17:17

major. Oh, close to the bone, Dan. Too

1:17:20

close to the bone. All

1:17:22

right, more to come on this

1:17:24

front. In the spirit of

1:17:26

March Madness, send in your thoughts. For

1:17:29

that guy, way over there, my good

1:17:31

friend Dan Rubenstein for myself, Ty Hildebrandt.

1:17:33

Still here, home base, Eastern Pennsylvania. We

1:17:35

will talk to you all soon. Send

1:17:37

us your suggestions. Until

1:17:39

next time, stay soft. Peace.