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Let's get them over with. Hello
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everyone and welcome to this week's
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Spanish football podcast. Hello Sid. Good
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morning Phil. Good afternoon. Oh you
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did a very Spanish thing because we're recording before
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2 o'clock. You refer to it as morning. It's
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still morning. It's still morning until you've had your
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3 hour lunch break and you get back at
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5. Afternoon doesn't start till 5. Correct.
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I guess 4 is... I
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guess it's anytime after lunch. Basically when you
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go back to work. Anytime after you've gone
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back to work it's the afternoon. Well we've
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very much been working all morning so we'll
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just crack on until we go off for a 3
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hour lunch break. Ha! Here's
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what happened on match day 23 in La
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Liga EA Sports. There were lots of interesting
1:16
games, Sidney. We were at one on Sunday
1:19
evening together. Doesn't often happen. Doesn't, does it?
1:21
No, it was good that. We were at
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the Madrid Derby. He had a closed Burnebowl.
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And I mean closed because they had the
1:27
roof, roof shut. Which is an interesting dynamic.
1:30
Anyway, this is what happened on match day
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23. Friday night saw Athletic
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Club continue their storming fantastic home
1:36
form. They beat Mallorca by 4
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goals to nil. The first 2
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goals were scored by Yuribercice, the
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left back. Two brilliant goals.
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The first goal is really quite ridiculous
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what he does. It's a sort of
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back heel flick volley. I can't really
1:53
quite describe it but it's really quite
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extraordinary. Athletic flying high ahead of their
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Copa del Rey semi-final against Athletic. Madrid
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it on Saturdays Valencia continue to inflict
2:02
pain on Almeria who a bottom of
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the tables windless and on close to
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be the worst team in La Liga
2:09
history. Under six points at Valencia beat
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them to wants than other Las Palmas.
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Played out one one draw. And
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Barcelona us made it to Windsor of
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to following champion and this decision to
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step down that the end of the
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season they be out of a spice
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three goes to and vetoed okay scoring
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for the second game in a row
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but also being sent us as well
2:31
as you don't have had Real Sociedad
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played up a really entertaining at goalless
2:35
draw. ah monte, leave these added. On
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Sunday there was a somewhat less entertaining
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goalless draw between Via the Baths and
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Kaddish as cell tower one free nil
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I also sooner rather surprising. Mates and
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Betty's and hit us. I played out
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a one one draw the same school
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as Dmitri topic at Brain Diaz getting
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Real Madrid The leads before Marcos your
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intake equalized in the ninety fourth minute
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patreon.com/TSFB. So we'll start
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with the Madrid Derby then. Real
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Madrid 1, Atletico Madrid 1. A
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result that's actually really quite good for the
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neutrals because it very much keeps alive the
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La Liga title race. Had Real Madrid 1,
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they would have been 4 points clear ahead
4:31
of the visits of Girona. Next
4:33
weekend to the Bernabeu, if they'd beaten Girona, they
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would have been 7 points clear and it would
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have been looking very much like Real Madrid are
4:39
going to win the league, as it is. Still
4:41
just 2 points between Real Madrid and
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Girona. We had already 3 Madrid
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Darbys this season. One in
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the league, which Atletico Madrid 1, and then one in
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the Super Cup, one in the Copa del Rey as
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well. They were all pretty entertaining matches and this one
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was a little bit more low-key,
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Sid. Yeah, it was very
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definitely. In fact, I quite like
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Diego Simioni's analysis of this. He said it
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was a weird game. Yeah,
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he described it as a weird game and
5:09
he said it felt like Real Madrid were
5:12
the better team but we had the better
5:14
chances and I think that's probably broadly true,
5:16
at least in the first half anyway. He
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said it had nowhere near the excitement and
5:20
the kind of dynamism
5:23
of those recent games. He actually
5:25
included the first Darby, the first
5:28
league Darby at the Metropolitan League.
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I'm not sure I would include it if you're talking
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about really exciting games. I thought it was a game
5:34
where Atletico played very well but I don't think it
5:36
was anywhere near as exciting as those two knockout games,
5:38
which of course both went to extra time. This one
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would have done, had it not been for the
5:42
fact that it was a league game as well. It tells you something about the
5:44
level of these two teams. I
5:46
must confess, my feeling going into the last
5:49
couple of minutes of this was it's
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only one nil but Madrid are just
5:53
too strong. Of
5:56
course, they got caught and they got caught
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for a handful of reasons. of
6:00
course is I suppose the injuries they've had at Centre
6:03
vehicle and the fact that the centre back partnership
6:05
was a pretty small one and
6:07
a slightly makeshift one, although I think it would be
6:09
a bit over simplistic to point purely at that. I
6:11
thought it was a good response from Atlético in the
6:13
sense that they kept going for it, but they really
6:15
should have been probably put out
6:18
of sight beforehand. In particular
6:20
you would say that chance for Rodrigo wouldn't you when he slipped
6:23
in in the right hand side of the penalty area, then you
6:25
have that wonderful run and shot just wide
6:27
from Brahim just before they take Brahim off. And
6:30
so the feeling going into those last
6:32
few minutes was yeah it's not been
6:34
a great derby, but it's a little bit like
6:36
we were talking about with Real Madrid. I think
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last week probably it was on the Q&A pod
6:41
or maybe it was on Thursday's pod, we were
6:43
sort of saying you look at Madrid and you
6:45
don't think this is a really sparkling football team,
6:47
this is a really brilliant side that does everything
6:49
well and totally blows people out of the water,
6:51
but you do look at them and think this
6:53
is a side that does everything,
6:56
if not perfectly really well, that has
6:58
lots of different ways of getting at
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you, that looks and feels like a
7:02
team completely in control and
7:04
even when they're not playing brilliant
7:06
football. And that's kind of how I felt last night, I
7:08
just sort of looked at my thought that midfield is
7:11
just kind of too good really, without needing to
7:13
be at its very best last night. I thought
7:15
Tony Cruz played brilliantly again. I
7:18
thought then you see the athleticism
7:20
of Camavinga Valverde and Bellingham obviously
7:22
crosses the one that doesn't have that, but he has
7:24
the technical quality. And
7:27
also I suppose partly because Atletico didn't really have a fourth
7:29
man in midfield because it's a 5-3 and 2, now
7:33
I know part of the five joins in midfield, but
7:35
it felt like they were outnumbered there, it felt like
7:37
Real Madrid had control of that part of the pitch,
7:39
albeit Atletico then shifted to something closer to
7:41
a 4-4-2, it still felt like Real Madrid
7:43
had control of the middle of the pitch
7:45
and it was actually a little bit
7:47
of a surprise and a little bit out of keeping
7:50
with the game for Atletico to have eventually got the
7:52
equaliser. But I do think Simeone is right when
7:54
he talks about them having had two or three
7:56
really good chances to a school because they did
7:58
have. They certainly did. And I think it possibly is
8:01
worth us just dwelling on the fact
8:04
that Real Madrid were playing with their
8:06
fourth and sixth choice centre backs in
8:08
this game with Nacho and Danny Carvajal
8:12
playing as a centre back. I mean, Danny Carvajal is
8:15
a five foot eight right back seed and he was
8:17
playing a centre back
8:19
and actually did really quite well until
8:22
maybe the 94th minute when him
8:24
and Nacho were caught out for
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that goal. Yeah, I mean,
8:28
it was a bizarrely simple goal and
8:30
a really, really badly defended goal. For
8:32
what it's worth, the risk of sounding
8:34
like I've got a better better. For
8:38
what it's worth, the person to point the finger at in
8:40
that goal is Nacho, not Carvajal. No. Nacho
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does a very strange jump, doesn't he? He sort
8:44
of, it's like he's not sure if he wants
8:47
to risk going for it or not. And
8:49
it was a very strange goal for
8:51
Madrid to concede. Actually, Ancelotti himself said post
8:54
game. I can't remember
8:56
the exact quote now, but it was worth the
8:58
effect of we had a small defence and we got
9:00
caught in the air. Yes. Admittedly,
9:02
it only really happened once, maybe twice, because there's
9:04
that, I think it's the Saul header that goes wide,
9:07
isn't there? There's a Savage header that goes wide,
9:09
I think. Oh, the Savage and there's a Savage one
9:11
from the corner, yeah, the far post, but there's
9:13
also a Saul one that goes wide, so there's two
9:15
then in the first half. Doesn't Lune make a
9:17
very good save as well? Yes, he does, doesn't he?
9:19
And that's in the air too, isn't it? Yeah,
9:21
good point. Yeah, yeah. Score a goal from a ball
9:24
in that was, you know, not so. Which is
9:26
also in the air, you know what? It's almost
9:29
like Atletico... You're breaking these up, Phil. Yeah, it's almost
9:31
like Atletico had isolated this and thought, hold on, they've
9:33
got a small team, small defence, and let's put balls
9:35
into the box and cause problems. I mean, for what
9:37
it's worth, you know, Atletico are a team that will
9:39
create goals against you when you've got a big defence.
9:41
In fact, you look at the 3-1 earlier in the
9:43
season in the league and all of those goals are
9:45
basically built the same way. Yes. Down one wing, finished
9:48
on the other wing. I think it's down the left
9:50
and finished on the right, isn't it? All of them.
9:52
Or is it the other way around? Hang on. I'm
9:54
trying to picture them now. Yeah,
9:57
it's all down the left, finished on the right, isn't it? Anyway,
10:00
it doesn't matter. The point is that they were
10:02
looking for that space behind the sort
10:06
of the more distant of the two central defenders
10:08
and between him and the other fullback. This
10:10
obviously has special circumstances and Anschlotti was asked, you
10:12
know, why didn't you buy a centre back? And
10:14
we talked about this ourselves at the time and
10:16
we thought, well, I thought at least that they
10:19
probably would if someone became available relatively cheap the
10:21
same as they've done with the goalkeeper. But Anschlotti
10:23
made, I think, a reasonable point which is to
10:25
say that, look, this is a one-off game. Now,
10:28
that's not quite true because it's a one-off game
10:30
to get Schoemany back who's also not a
10:32
central defender. Yes.
10:35
And maybe a one-off game to get Rudiger back
10:37
assuming that he's bit in time for the Girona
10:39
game that we can, which he may
10:41
or may not be, we'll see. But
10:44
yeah, they definitely paid for it. Vinicius
10:46
Jr. also not in the starting 11. He
10:48
was initially but then seemed to have had himself
10:50
in the warm-up and retreated as a bench and
10:52
didn't teach. It was his neck, wasn't it? The
10:54
curious thing about that, of course, is that that's
10:56
why Brahim played and he was the best player
10:58
on the pitch from a Real Madrid point of
11:00
view, at least. Certainly the most exciting, maybe not
11:02
the best, because as I say, I thought the
11:04
midfield played really, really well. From
11:08
a Real Madrid perspective, I thought, you know, there's quite a few
11:10
individuals that you could pick out and you had really
11:12
good games. Brian Diaz played really well. Tony
11:14
Cross played really well. Lucas Vasquez played
11:16
really well. Yes, he did. Very, very
11:18
well. Yeah. For
11:20
Atletico, who could you pick out and
11:23
say had a really good game? Yeah, it's curious,
11:25
isn't it? Because individually, I'm not sure because, for
11:27
example, Rodrigo Paul wasn't as influential
11:29
as normal. I'm going to rescue Griezmann from
11:31
this a little bit. Now, I don't think
11:33
this was Griezmann's best performance at all, but
11:36
I was very struck by something. He literally
11:38
had not touched the ball in the first
11:40
seven minutes. The first time he touched the
11:42
ball, he created an absolutely glorious pass for
11:44
Maratha Charles. Actually, Maratha probably should score. And
11:47
I felt like the moments of quality that
11:49
they produced invariably came from him. And
11:54
so he did. I suppose you could possibly argue
11:56
that once Memphis came on, he
11:58
made things happen as well. He's involved. He's involved in the
12:00
goal, he wins a couple of corners with a couple of runs.
12:05
So I think you could maybe point
12:07
to Memphis as well. But you're right, individually, this
12:10
is why, I mean that goes back to what Simeone
12:12
was saying. This is a
12:14
really strange game that sort of doesn't make a
12:16
huge amount of sense in terms of the final outcome. And
12:19
yet, nor would you look at it and say, well, Real Madrid
12:22
should have absolutely battered them. Now for what
12:24
it's worth, I think Real Madrid probably should have run out winning this. As
12:26
I say, they had a couple of good chances. I think
12:28
they've got at least one pretty good
12:30
penalty shout as well. And so you
12:33
sort of look at it and you think, well, the balance of it
12:35
and the feeling of the way the game played out, yeah,
12:37
Madrid probably should have won this. But what it's worth,
12:39
you know, this isn't a bad result
12:41
from Real Madrid's point of view. It
12:43
doesn't open the title race entirely. It doesn't close it either, though,
12:45
that's for sure. No, it doesn't. So
12:47
the fourth and
12:50
probably final Madrid derby. No, I don't think so.
12:52
I reckon they're going to meet each other in
12:54
the Champions League. I reckon it's happening for them.
12:57
Well, let's see. Maybe we'll get a
12:59
fifth Madrid derby of the season, a
13:01
fifth and sixth Madrid derby of
13:03
the season in the Champions League. For
13:08
the moment, we'll put that fixture
13:11
to one side and talk
13:13
a bit about Girona, Neil Real's Sociedad,
13:15
Neil. I
13:18
mean, this felt like, I think Girona were really
13:20
actually quite disappointed at the end of this game
13:22
by drawing Neil Neil with a side who
13:25
won their Champions League group, which obviously
13:27
shows how far they've come. It
13:30
was Neil Neil. It was actually a really exciting
13:32
game. It was good, yeah. There's
13:34
plenty going on. It wasn't a boring
13:37
Neil Neil draw. But yeah,
13:40
Girona dropping two
13:42
points at home because they've been so strong at home and
13:44
they've got some big games coming up. Obviously, they're a way
13:46
to, they're a way to Real Madrid. I think they've got
13:48
to go to Bilbao as well and take on Athletic.
13:51
There's some really big games coming up for
13:53
them. And these were two points dropped
13:55
at home. Against the Real, Sociedad
13:57
side who had loads of players missing as
13:59
well. were pretty happy with how
14:01
their trip to Catalonia went
14:03
out. But yeah, what did you make of this game?
14:06
Well, I mean, as you say, the players missing, they
14:08
also had to get injured during this game, both Becker
14:10
and the other. The other one's horrible as well. You
14:12
see the way his knee sort of pops inwards slightly
14:15
as it bends in a way that it shouldn't.
14:18
His knee sort of bends, I mean, to try... It's
14:20
okay, don't go into it, okay. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
14:22
right. I'm not going to. Bad injury. Yeah,
14:25
a bad injury. It looks like a bad one.
14:27
Let's hope that it's not as bad as it
14:29
first appeared. I actually thought this, as you say,
14:31
this was a really, really good game. It was
14:33
really enjoyable. I thought both teams created sufficient chances
14:36
to have won it. Both of them had
14:38
goals disallowed. For what it's worth, the
14:40
Girona goal disallowed, I think, is really
14:43
dubious. And I think it's really dubious
14:46
as much as anything else because of the conceptualization
14:48
as, by the way, the drilling has started again
14:50
outside my house. So if you can hear a
14:52
horrible noise, apologies for that. It's very much the
14:55
sound of Madrid. The
14:58
reason I'm so dubious about this one being ruled
15:01
out isn't so much the decision... Explain what happened.
15:03
Well, that's why, yeah, isn't so much the decision
15:05
itself as the conceptualization of it. Essentially, what happens
15:07
is there's a long ball up the left wing.
15:10
Savio is running after it. I think it's Savio
15:13
anyway. He's offside. Yes.
15:15
He... The
15:17
move continues. 37
15:20
seconds passes between that pass and
15:22
Girona eventually getting the ball back in the net, in
15:25
which time, Ralsoff and I have
15:27
headed clear two Girona crosses and
15:29
even got hold of the ball, albeit
15:32
very, very briefly, after a Girona
15:35
attempt across breaks down. So you have two headed
15:37
clearances and you have one moment when two Ralsoff
15:39
and their players, one gets it, knocks it to
15:41
the other, who loses it again. So,
15:44
of course, then you get this argument as, well, is this
15:46
really still the same move? Is it the same
15:49
attack? Is it still the same phase? And that's
15:51
where the argument comes because Ralsoff and I did
15:53
get possession back and, as I say, not only
15:55
that, but cleared the ball a couple of times,
15:57
which maybe doesn't count as them actually getting possession
15:59
back. but on one occasion I think they
16:01
probably did. And my problem with this really isn't
16:03
so much the decision itself because actually really and
16:06
truly the linesman should probably put the flag up
16:08
straight away because I think the original offside is
16:10
pretty clear. But I think it's a relatively clear one because it's right
16:13
in front of him. It's right in front of him. So
16:15
in a way that's kind of part
16:17
of the problem for me is that this suggests
16:19
that the existence of VAR causes a problem
16:21
because it discourages linesmen for putting their flags up and
16:24
then brings it back for something that happened 30 seconds
16:26
earlier when a whole load of the game has continued.
16:29
And I don't know, I'm just very uneasy about
16:31
that. I'm with you. I think
16:33
it's pretty ridiculous to be honest. But
16:36
there we go. At the end, did you
16:39
hear the Girona fans were chanting I see,
16:41
I see, I see, I see, Ganel Madrid.
16:43
Yeah, I mean Madrid weren't even playing but
16:46
obviously you can understand why because it's round
16:48
Madrid that they're up against in the league
16:50
and they would have seen this as a
16:52
decision designed. Well, not designed, that's the
16:54
wrong word. Well, actually maybe they sit like this, much
16:57
like I don't. This
16:59
isn't designed to derail their
17:01
title chase and to help
17:03
Madrid. I don't see it like that
17:05
at all. But I mean, I'm sure that they will. One
17:08
of the reasons of course for this is that a
17:11
lot of Girona fans are Barcelona fans as well. A Girona
17:13
fans are going to hate me for having said that but
17:15
some Girona fans certainly in terms of their natural
17:17
inclination to be sympathetic towards one or
17:19
the other. And in the case of
17:22
some Girona fans, actually Barcelona fans who've
17:24
taken to Girona as well. So
17:26
maybe that helps to explain a little bit why that's
17:28
the focus. I
17:31
just want to tell you guys, because
17:33
obviously the majority of you listening to
17:35
us don't live in Spain and you're
17:37
not necessarily consuming football in
17:39
Spanish and through Spanish media.
17:43
The discourse on referees in just, I mean
17:45
this season in a hole, but in
17:47
the last few weeks it just
17:49
feels like it is relentless and it has
17:51
just gone up to a level that is
17:54
becoming really quite unbearable. It is genuinely quite
17:56
unbearable to listen to Spanish radio, to
17:58
try to watch TV or read it. it's just, it's
18:01
too much, it's really really difficult. And people say, well why
18:03
don't you, you say you don't talk
18:05
about the referees. I think it's
18:07
partly a reaction to what we're experiencing,
18:09
certainly for me anyway, what
18:11
we're experiencing here in Spain, it's just, it's too
18:13
much. There was, it was very interesting
18:15
I thought last night, well, I don't know if interesting's
18:17
the right word, but I'll stick with it for now.
18:20
Last night, one of the Sunday night roundup
18:22
shows, the one that's done on Movistar, which
18:24
is presented by Juan Macastano, they
18:26
talked about this and they clicked
18:28
together comments of managers talking about referees
18:31
and basically to say that they all do.
18:33
Now, I thought it was quite
18:37
disingenuous to be honest, because the discussion
18:39
was saying, you know, look, everyone's
18:41
doing this, just stop it, it's got out of
18:43
hand, it's too much, and
18:46
I would basically agree with that discussion. The
18:48
reason I say it's disingenuous is, that was
18:50
done by a program that
18:52
enjoys the controversy much more than
18:54
the football, mostly. That
18:57
also projected the way that the managers were talking
18:59
as if it was all the same, and it
19:01
absolutely isn't, because some managers were talking in conspiratorial
19:04
terms and others were just saying, I'm not sure
19:06
about that decision. You
19:08
know, I saw someone this morning as well, criticizing
19:10
Marco Sorrente after the Real Madrid game, for
19:13
saying, well, I'm not entirely sure about the
19:15
rules, because Atletico had a goal ruled out
19:18
for offside, positional offside, Saoul is standing in
19:20
front of the goalkeeper, Looning, but Looning is
19:22
inside his goal. And people said,
19:24
well, you should know the rules, and to be
19:26
fair to Marco Sorrente, he wasn't moaning, he was just saying,
19:28
I actually, I haven't had a chance to see
19:30
it yet, and I'm not sure if it
19:33
changes anything, that the goalie is off the pitch inside
19:35
his goal. And it was literally him just honestly saying,
19:37
and I'm not complaining about anything, I
19:39
just don't know what the rule is. And so it just
19:41
feels like everybody's kind of waiting
19:44
to basically fight their corner on this. And
19:46
that's the other problem, of course, is it's always from your
19:48
own corner. For all it's
19:50
worth, I do think over the last
19:52
week or so, the discourse coming from
19:54
Chavi has been pretty absurd.
19:57
Go On, do feel free to elaborate. On
20:00
them why he he he he was too he said
20:02
the other day is absolutely clear even a blind man
20:04
can see it is has been happening since the start
20:07
the season we're paying for than in the get their
20:09
data case now. Isis
20:12
and just this idea that is set up
20:14
against the months or a just. Years
20:17
and this weekend at a weekend which
20:19
prompted are admittedly I wouldn't call them.
20:22
Big. Penalty shells with is it is one
20:24
for me is ah just other the Us
20:26
and our upon this size it's is on
20:28
a semi from everyone my the I both
20:30
it as which is why we really do
20:32
not dwell on these things to market we
20:35
just as a success of with i spent
20:37
over time to my mother talkative zone while
20:39
so tyson facing so yeah but to be
20:41
there you know when when also screaming at
20:43
each other from deeply entrenched Madison that I
20:45
believe. We've We've. Used we've
20:47
we've used a lot of time to decry
20:50
the fact that the media uses a lot
20:52
of times. Took her a suffer possibly economists
20:54
three one at the stadium? Indecent across? I
20:57
am. I guess this was kind of the
20:59
reaction. From. Barcelona, Yeah
21:02
I guess I'm he says against it was
21:04
okay but now exactly I'm glad I'm glad
21:07
than the data kiss somebody said post game
21:09
that we seen the rats and now from
21:11
from the decision in the last two games.
21:13
honestly honestly atrocity. ah Sassoon a game in
21:15
midweek and he was. We spoke to him
21:18
on on Legacy be A we had him
21:20
in English and it's as did an interview
21:22
with our reporter. Any with I'm really really
21:24
happy I'm so happy paid really ways and
21:27
test me see the reaction and I think
21:29
everyone else is looking. Everyone in the studio with
21:31
looking at each other like. What?
21:33
Like I know, Tabby is A He's a
21:35
positive guy He's a positive person That's how
21:37
he view things in his or of be
21:39
in theory But this was just. Bizarre.
21:42
It was accidentally bizarre because that game he
21:45
gets suspicious that was nothing's and like that
21:47
with stage would be really really nothing this
21:49
and this one against i love them a
21:51
mitten minute limo my nuclear a bit better
21:53
but really death suffering yes as as things
21:55
in this game the I think he can
21:58
feel post the bob i don't think any
22:00
other this two different things him but they
22:02
go hand in hand one his weapon What
22:04
you can be positive about it and I
22:06
think there are elements of this can he
22:08
can be positive about that's fine art of
22:11
I got this ad for the ovaries. the
22:13
idea that is positive because of his announcement
22:15
mythical. Definitely don't sit idle definitely I yeah
22:17
exactly as far as I see this is
22:19
being out of step with because has been
22:21
games issue has been positive moments and actually
22:24
Chubby has been most the season selling. This
22:26
is my well in front of the season
22:28
we pull while others are already. Cs and
22:30
so so if if you now say we're
22:32
playing well is because I. Resigned.
22:35
But then does that mean you weren't selling Says you put
22:38
he said you play well before. Now
22:40
I mean made way plus misrule the bit
22:42
here on for another I work with with
22:44
picking I'm a bit too much and maybe
22:46
would be a little bit too kind of
22:49
pedantic and and and a nit picky but
22:51
there were other were things become a me
22:53
For example eleven does he go beautiful, beautiful
22:55
A.what I would do that or oh yeah
22:57
I'll add it was the kind of go
22:59
for you eat you. This. Is gonna
23:01
go you should have when you got petrie good again
23:03
front of the on a level of the on the
23:05
pitch. Or those four players will plaza
23:08
come by and that's the kind of gold
23:10
those color place to be. a breeze and it's
23:12
a really really lovely goals are I thought that
23:14
they? I'm bitter Okay, Go was really nice, had
23:16
taken a pretty nice instructed his wealth on
23:18
the gold at the Good Guys Go was
23:20
also read yeah I see, constructed and finished
23:22
with your that's really really good but my.
23:25
I must confess my feeling in the
23:27
last one fifteen minutes of the first
23:29
often maybe the first sixty minutes and
23:31
second off was actually Barcelona looked really
23:33
really vulnerable and they go on the
23:35
lot and they go to develop and
23:37
in. Oliver score me to make it
23:39
to want and to be perfectly honest
23:41
with everything that be watching for the
23:43
twenty minutes around those goals or thought
23:45
Oliver's going to come on him because
23:47
it felt to me like every bolivia
23:50
they were winning. every every
23:52
loose ball they were getting see first snow of
23:54
us have many sir arthur recently good side that
23:56
picked up nine point seven niner it is about
23:58
three wins and arose coming into the Yes, this
24:00
was a game where I'll be honest with you, pre-game
24:02
I thought, Basque can lose this. This is
24:05
the game that Basque can lose. So in that sense, yes,
24:07
this is a good result. Yes, there were moments of the
24:09
performance which were pretty good. Well, we're
24:11
OK. But I don't
24:13
see this as some clear demonstration
24:16
of a reaction. No, I mean, it's not.
24:18
But it is definitely a good result. Definitely
24:20
a very good result for Basque. It is,
24:22
yeah. And they're
24:24
eight points off the top.
24:27
Who knows if they win next
24:29
week, which is highly,
24:32
highly possible at home to Granada.
24:35
And Real Madrid and Girona take points off
24:37
them. Well, cut
24:39
the gap down to six. Who knows? Who knows? It's
24:41
not it's not over yet. But,
24:44
yeah. No, no, it's not. And the main thing
24:46
I think from Barcelona's point of view is is
24:48
that, you know, a few weeks ago we were thinking,
24:51
wow, they might not even get a champion in this
24:53
place. And certainly we were thinking they don't look like
24:55
they're going to get second. Now, if
24:58
Madrid were to beat Girona and
25:00
Barcelona win next week, then I think Barcelona
25:02
do start thinking, actually, you know what, second
25:04
is within grasp. Yes. So they need Girona
25:06
to do them a favour. Take some points
25:08
off them and draw. Let's see.
25:11
We've spoken about them before on the podcast. I think
25:13
we're going to have to continue to speak
25:16
about them while they're in this kind of
25:18
form. But Athletic Club with that 4-0 thrashing
25:20
of Mallorca on Friday night and
25:22
the Friday night game often gets overlooked
25:26
a little bit. But what Athletic Club are
25:28
doing this season really is extremely
25:31
impressive. The goal scoring,
25:34
the kind of... How
25:37
can I put this? There seems to be almost a sort
25:39
of constant momentum when they
25:41
play at home. There's just
25:43
this constant relentlessness about
25:45
them, which is really fun to watch.
25:47
Yeah, really fun. And, you know, it
25:50
fits with the environment as well. The
25:52
noise, because Sammamis is probably
25:54
with Betis and maybe
25:56
Atletico, the noisiest ground. They're
25:59
probably the noisiest. his free grounds in Spain at the
26:01
moment. There
26:04
is a real joy to that. There is
26:06
a breathlessness about it. Valverde
26:08
was talking about this after the
26:11
last Copa de Rey game. I
26:13
think he must have been that game because that's the last
26:15
athletic game I was at. So I think it must have
26:17
been that game. He
26:20
was saying that actually the measurements
26:22
that we have of our
26:24
physical output are not that
26:28
different to last year. But it's what
26:30
really stands out. I suppose what's different now is they're being
26:32
effective in front of the goal. They're taking the chances that
26:34
they weren't taking last year. There's a dynamism
26:36
about them that's great to watch, as I say,
26:38
partly there last year. But I think it's a
26:40
little bit better. It's a little bit clearer. I
26:42
think it's a little bit more incisive than it
26:45
was last season. I think the move, a
26:47
position from Reaki Williams, plays a part in that.
26:49
I think the performances of Sandset definitely play a
26:51
part in that. You see the performance of all
26:54
the way across the midfield actually is
26:56
really, really good. Obviously in this game, Yuri
26:59
Bachichi, I wouldn't claim that he was the
27:01
outstanding player this season, but of course he's
27:03
important. And they are brilliant. I saw a
27:05
statistic, I think I saw it this morning
27:08
or last night, although this morning and last
27:10
night have segwayed into the same things in
27:12
my mind, that this is
27:14
their best home form
27:17
in 26 years, athletic. 14
27:20
games unbeaten in all competitions since Real Madrid
27:22
beat them on the opening weekend of the
27:24
season, haven't lost since in any competition. And
27:27
yeah, they're looking very, very impressive indeed. Nice
27:30
that the fourth goal,
27:32
I like this, it was scored by Ika
27:35
Munyayin, assisted by Oscar de Marcos, two one
27:38
club men who have been there for 14 seasons.
27:41
And Munyayin isn't playing much this season
27:43
at all, but he still seems as
27:46
committed as ever to the cause,
27:48
popping up for his first league goal of the season.
27:50
Last season was the first season he didn't score a
27:53
league goal, Ika Munyayin. Oh I didn't know
27:55
that, right. He scored his goal this season
27:57
and nice to see two veterans combined.
28:00
finding there for that goal. Sidney,
28:03
in the Segunda division, are you fully
28:05
aware what happened in the Segunda division?
28:08
Well, I'm aware in the sense that Oviedo are
28:10
now back in the Oviedo position, which is two
28:12
positions, two points away from the playoffs. Having drawn
28:15
1-1, I don't know if you've got the chance
28:17
to see any of this, even if it's just
28:19
the highlights or just the goals. Oviedo
28:21
actually played pretty well. I saw
28:23
Santi Cosola hit the bar. Yeah, I tell you, I
28:26
thought I'd gone in. And,
28:28
you know, full
28:30
disclosure here, a member
28:32
of my family did come into the living room to find out
28:34
what had happened and what the noise was. Right,
28:37
and you just said
28:39
Santi. Yeah, I just said
28:42
Santi is just almost done. Anyway,
28:44
so yeah, Oviedo drew 1-1 with El Dense.
28:47
Elsewhere, leaders Leganes drew 0-0 with
28:50
Valladolid. Espanyol beat Lavante 2-1. Thanks
28:53
to a brace from the Segunda's top goalscorer,
28:55
our former friend Martin Braithwaite. Are
28:58
we calling him former now? That's his doing the
29:00
hours. We're not denouncing him, he's just not
29:02
denouncing him. That's not the word we're announcing. We
29:05
just lost touch, you know, we lost touch,
29:07
we grew apart. Drifted apart. So,
29:11
Leganes are our first, Ebar second,
29:13
Rasingferrol our third, Espanyol fourth, Valladolid
29:15
fifth, and Elce our sixth. And
29:19
as you said, Cindy, Oviedo are naturally two
29:21
points off the playoffs. This
29:24
week, we've got Copedale Ray's semi-final, first legs,
29:26
which should be a lot of fun. Tuesday
29:28
night it's Mallorca against Real Sociedad.
29:32
Then on Thursday it's Atletico
29:34
against Athletic, which... No,
29:36
Wednesday. Wednesday
29:39
night it's Atletico against Athletic,
29:41
sorry. And obviously Athletic
29:43
Group have had two days extra
29:45
to prepare that game compared to I think Madrid.
29:48
Which is why you thought it could be Thursday, because of course
29:51
that's what Atletico asked for. I mean, honestly,
29:53
I'm not going on this front, that's it, I'm just
29:55
not doing it. Don't do
29:57
it, Sid, we know how you feel about Chetling. And
30:00
we share your feelings as well. That's
30:03
it for today's edition of the Spanish Football Podcast. If
30:05
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30:21
Cheerio.
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