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The Match Ball: Leeds United 1-2 Southampton

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1:22

Match ball. We get

1:24

extra games. For free. Oh

1:27

no, we have to pay for them. What

1:30

happens in summer you get bored because there's no football.

1:33

So just push it back a month. I've

1:35

got a bit of enjoyment and pleasure to come. I've got to

1:37

be honest. I was really looking forward to it. To

1:39

what? Season ended and summer being a... Well,

1:43

it'll be your second favorite thing. Watching Leeds

1:45

United play football. I was, but we could

1:47

have the perfect end to the season and

1:50

hit the summer with a beautiful memory. It

1:53

wasn't to be today. We're going into these

1:55

playoffs with such momentum. Well, let me start you off

1:57

on YouTube for 169. at

2:00

this moment in time. So welcome, welcome, welcome. If you're

2:02

listening afterwards, this is the fun that you get to

2:04

miss out on. John Mitchell's comment is one I want

2:06

to lead off on the result never mattered, but the

2:09

performance did. And it was shocking again. Do you agree?

2:11

Discuss? Yes, I wasn't shocked. No,

2:13

I wasn't shocked. No, don't want to solve the

2:15

team. Anybody has the same team. It'll probably be,

2:17

they'll probably play about the same. And

2:19

then it was the same because

2:21

it was small bone. Just strolling

2:23

through the midfield, much as chair and,

2:25

um, that other QPR bloke did

2:28

the other day just

2:30

didn't work again. Um, I mean, did

2:32

we even deserve one? Yes. Did

2:35

we? Good goal. It was all

2:37

right. They, they deserve the win. I

2:39

didn't know. Probably you would

2:41

have to say my strength for the first half.

2:43

The second half was weird. Yeah. They

2:45

went into a, they went to a put up

2:48

for about two minutes. The second half didn't they? And you

2:50

get the feeling everyone just went. Yeah. Yeah.

2:52

That was, it was known, wasn't it? I mean, it was

2:54

known anyway. I looked at the Ipswich stats

2:56

at halftime and Huddersfield actually was 0.01 and

2:58

they had had, I think like three touches

3:01

in their box. To be fair, actually, Ipswich

3:03

should be embarrassed if only beat them to

3:05

now. Well, they have. I knew, in fact,

3:07

I knew it was nothing going to happen

3:10

because I looked at the lineup and Huddersfield

3:12

had that, um, a

3:14

base fullback in who played against us. Yeah. And I

3:16

was like, yeah, they're not getting it. Did you pick

3:18

up on the, on what, uh, Brighton Wright

3:21

was saying about Warnock this week.

3:23

They let the, in the players

3:25

he inherited had spent preseason in

3:27

the pub playing golf course

3:29

and falling out with each other. And if

3:32

you'd realized all that before he, uh, he came

3:34

in, he wouldn't have bothered. So it's

3:37

just another way we've, we can blame Warnock

3:39

today for Huddersfield not going there and doing

3:41

anything. Yeah. Huddersfield finished the game with 0.14

3:43

XG. Yeah. I didn't come into,

3:46

into this with any help. No, I didn't either. No

3:48

matter what we might've said. I came into it with

3:50

a five pound bet on it, switching leads to win.

3:53

I actually, I actually thought there was a fair chance we would

3:56

win by us. I thought there was, I couldn't

3:58

see any world in which it switched. Didn't get a part of it. against

4:00

others film. Well

4:02

done. What to Ipswich? Yeah, I

4:05

found it odd though that when they scored

4:07

Southampton fans started singing it and they were

4:09

right on the, like they were singing it

4:11

before I got a goal alert, but they

4:13

were singing 1-0 to the Tractor Boys. Is

4:15

it appropriate to sing about another

4:17

team's nickname? Ipswich doesn't fit, well they don't sing

4:19

it. The Ipswich town doesn't scan both tracks. Yeah,

4:22

but I mean lots of songs don't. I mean

4:24

they sang the worst rendition of Informer by Snow

4:26

that I've ever heard. They can't even fit that

4:28

to the tune. They kind of go, I don't

4:31

know which player it's about, it might be Will

4:33

Small, Will Small, Bone, and they go, oh, duh,

4:35

duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. So if they can't

4:37

sing that, then they don't need to worry too much

4:39

about, oh, we'd better get the Ipswich song right, we'd

4:41

better get their nickname proper. Yeah, I mean, you know,

4:43

fans do dig out other fans don't they? Yeah, that's

4:45

fine. Don't you? Imagine us singing, oh, 1-0 to the

4:48

Red Devils. You're not going to do it

4:50

here. No, no. Well, you

4:52

know, I think it was a slight misreading as

4:54

well because Leeds fans, I think were fully resigned to

4:56

this being, yeah, not happening. It wasn't a day that,

4:58

well, I'm saying that I was telling them I before

5:00

the game and a few people were

5:02

insistent that it was going to happen. But you know, you've

5:05

got a dream, haven't you? I suppose. But no,

5:07

I never felt there was any real, but yeah,

5:09

I mean, congratulations to Ipswich and there's part of

5:11

me, you know, trying to find any

5:14

sort of angle on this to make us all feel better. I

5:17

don't feel that bad about it because you know, we've still

5:19

got another bite of the cherry, haven't we? With the playoffs

5:21

and, you know, the potential of going

5:23

up through that. And if not, if you don't go up,

5:25

fair enough, because Premier League is fairly horrible. There's part of

5:27

me thinks that, yeah, enjoy this weekend because

5:29

this is as good as it's going to get. I mean,

5:31

it won't be as good as the

5:33

last two years for Ipswich because they've got like, they've got

5:35

close to 200 points, haven't they? I will keep

5:37

going. Across the past two. I think before I'm

5:39

sick, no, another 90 next year. I don't

5:42

know about another 90, but I think they'll be top 10. I'm a little

5:45

short, but there'll be an early flirtation with

5:47

Europe momentum. Yeah.

5:49

Just keep, they just keep on going and keep

5:52

on trucking. And, and they've

5:55

got a lot of, it'll be

5:57

like us when we went up momentum. And

6:00

just a lot of people with like the excitement of it

6:02

being the first season like when we had Cooper

6:05

and ailing these players who'd kind of fought their way into

6:07

the Premier League. I think then,

6:09

you know, Parker was highlighting like Sam Morsy

6:11

being twice he's 35 years old, which

6:14

I hadn't realized. But

6:16

players like that will have reasons to keep to

6:18

at least have one good season in the

6:21

Premier League. And then, yeah, just

6:23

momentum, the surprise factor, all that kind of stuff

6:25

that can Sam Morsy is 32 by the way.

6:27

We'll take it up with Daniel Parker, not me.

6:29

I'll just have the pop mob notification for the

6:31

official highlights of our game and Ipswich and others

6:33

field games. So this is me deleting the notifications.

6:35

There we go. God. Yes.

6:38

I think Ipswich, what they've done this year

6:40

is they've played without fear, whereas we

6:42

have played with much fear, particularly as it's got closer and

6:44

closer to the end. Maybe

6:47

the point at which the horses were spooked as I

6:49

described it this week, was potentially us going top when

6:51

we got to the top. We're like, Oh shit. Now

6:54

what we're supposed to do? It's hard being

6:56

the ones trying to run away with it. It's weird how

6:58

we've defensively fallen apart, though. I

7:00

can almost picture how

7:03

in an attacking sense you may be going

7:05

to a whole little bit like you get paralyzed

7:07

by the safety of the football and trying

7:10

not to take you in. Maybe we don't take enough risks and it's

7:12

not a first time pass. It's take a touch and try and find

7:14

a pass. And it's not trying to beat a man.

7:16

It's trying to just lay it back to

7:18

the fullback and then work it from there. But

7:20

defensively, we've completely gone to pieces. It was

7:22

like Jesse Marsh times. Well, you're not the

7:24

only one to say that. Let me just find the comment.

7:27

Marco's put this and I said it. Did we hire Marsh?

7:30

The rehab Marsha's. Just all to the far post. They seem

7:32

to constantly be like false. I'm some players. And there's that

7:34

to put it in acres of space in the middle as

7:36

well. Actually, it was the point I was going to lead

7:38

into from the footballing perspective

7:41

was the shape today was just it was

7:43

all over the place. It was bad, really bad.

7:45

We just couldn't handle their runners coming from midfield.

7:47

It seemed like midfield was just all at sea.

7:50

What shape are we in today? Bad shape. Yeah. I mean, I

7:52

don't know if it was that first goal or the second, whichever

7:54

one it was, I think it might've been one

7:56

of them. Yeah. One of them. One of them.

7:58

It was one of them. There were four

8:00

players, unmarked. That

8:02

was four of our players rather than their player just ghosted in

8:04

and just put it in. No, it was goal number one. Yeah,

8:07

first goal. Yeah. Just

8:09

so you can't do that. You can't expect to get

8:11

promoted. Oh yeah, there's goal both goals in the first

8:13

half, isn't there? I was trying to be clever and

8:15

I fucked up. Yeah. You didn't have to tell me

8:17

that. You could have just made me look stupid. No,

8:19

that's all right. But some of the shapers are mess,

8:21

wasn't it? It starts further forward though, doesn't it? Because

8:24

we press from the front and then once you're through

8:26

there, if things are out of

8:29

shape, then there's players are running

8:31

at the back four and that makes the life

8:33

difficult. So it's not necessarily that the

8:35

back four have suddenly stopped playing well.

8:37

It's that there's a lot more being

8:40

coming at them that used to stop further

8:42

forward, how far forward and where

8:44

that actually comes from. It's

8:47

difficult to say, but I would look

8:49

at shortly before it

8:51

was taken off, I was looking at

8:53

Georgina, Rutter just absolutely shagged out, not

8:56

moving. Staying miles off

8:58

the ball. Niantel's not chasing people

9:00

back. And I noticed as well in

9:02

the first half, Niantel

9:04

was trying to run

9:06

around somebody on the outside and

9:08

just got completely outpaced, which is

9:11

unusual given that he is a very quick

9:13

player. And my theory

9:15

for a lot of it is, and

9:17

I mentioned this after the QPR game,

9:20

is that very few of these players have ever in their

9:22

lives played more than 35 games. I

9:24

think from the QPR lineup,

9:27

there were three and one was Mollie. And

9:29

a 46 game season, four

9:32

players who have previously never played more

9:34

than 35, I think they've just

9:36

ended up shagged. Yeah, they've never run out of steam, aren't they?

9:38

The injuries just bit at the wrong time, just coming out

9:40

of that international break. And it was just enough to make us

9:42

not quite good enough. And momentum as well. For

9:45

as long as you could just keep it going, you don't think about

9:48

how tired you are, but there is something

9:50

strange that happens that you can keep going and keep

9:52

going. But when you stop to then pick it up

9:54

and start again, and then

9:56

proof gets injured in Bulgaria

9:58

and Azerbaijan and all the. kind of

10:00

the injuries now open. What

10:03

happens? The whales slabs, the disappointment

10:05

there. Injuries of the

10:07

important times to Dan James and Pat Bamford,

10:10

suddenly they're not. They're

10:12

both players with more experience. And yeah, I think

10:14

we just got players who've not

10:16

been in this situation before, not played this

10:18

many games in the season before, not had

10:21

to do any of this before. Ethan Ampedo,

10:23

I thought it was interesting how much

10:26

he lost his temper at

10:28

the end of the game. And you remember the

10:30

last three seasons, he's been relegated with three different

10:33

clubs. And now he's still only 23. He's the

10:35

captain of a team that's trying to win promotion

10:37

to the Premier League. They're all being asked to

10:39

do a very, a completely different thing. The start

10:41

of last season, Wilf Jantner was playing in Switzerland.

10:45

If there are any with 18, if they're all

10:47

knackered, is that slightly Farkas fault

10:49

though? Because yeah, we've not seen much rotation.

10:51

How do you rotate to? Well, Jay Anthony,

10:53

for example, I think when we went to

10:56

Stoke and that didn't work, he

10:58

lost faith in the idea of making changes

11:00

rotating through midweek. And we saw the same

11:03

more or less injuries barring injuries,

11:05

accepted. Sorry. The same teams were put out time after time

11:08

after time. Aren't they? So I think maybe they have just

11:10

burned out. And it's quite telling that in the final table,

11:12

which I can put on screen as size that people can

11:15

actually see, which is nice prove it. There you go. Um,

11:18

we have fallen short of two points per game

11:20

in the end, which was his stated target at

11:22

the start of the season. He also had the

11:24

state target of what was it? Uh,

11:26

26 wins, which we've exceeded and 75

11:28

goals, which we've exceeded. According to that table,

11:30

if that's the full table with six off

11:32

bottom, that's not very good, is it? No,

11:34

that's not the full table. It's just the

11:36

top third middle throw in Poland league one

11:39

next year. You've done

11:41

very well with that table down. I came in here and I

11:43

got it immediately. I thought so people can see it. Well done.

11:45

Theographics. Yeah. So if you're listening on the audio version, what that

11:47

shows is that leads finished third. I don't know if you're aware.

11:49

It's got the farm on that too, which actually shows a big,

11:52

huge block of shitty red for all

11:54

the playoffs. Everyone's terrible. I

11:56

mean, Norwich lost to Birmingham today and Birmingham

11:59

got relegated. at the end of it. So, and

12:01

you know why? Robert's unused substitute.

12:03

I was going to highlight today

12:05

one of the things, because

12:07

I think you, it immediately went back to

12:10

Farka then, whereas I was trying to pull

12:12

the players and I was listening to the

12:14

podcast with Phil Hay from the end of the week, which

12:16

was like 45 minutes about Farka.

12:19

And the players are important as

12:21

well. And I was going to highlight the

12:23

way that a lot

12:25

of the gloomness, and you could hear it today in

12:27

the crowd, that the way we always rotate back to

12:30

along the back four, when things were

12:32

a bit difficult going forward, or

12:34

not even difficult going forward. A

12:37

lot of this is player influenced as

12:39

well. Byram, a number of times byram watches

12:41

Wilf and Yanno make a run down the

12:44

right wing and then just passes it to

12:46

Roldan is incredible. And then as soon as

12:48

kind of Roberts is on the pitch, he's trying to play one

12:50

two's with Jaden Anteceit and running into the box. And

12:52

different players do different things. And it's, if

12:55

we had Roberts available, perhaps we'd

12:58

have had more dynamism from that side.

13:00

And then you watch, there was one

13:02

particular move where shortly before

13:04

we went off byram ignored a

13:06

Yanno run, gives it to Roldan,

13:08

it goes across Furpo gets the ball

13:10

and then Furpo likes taking a chance

13:12

with Somerville. So he's a bit more

13:14

like trying to get a ball

13:16

in so more happens on that side. So

13:19

not everything is down to Farka

13:21

telling them exactly what to do in

13:23

every situation. Because if you put a

13:26

different player in the same position, that

13:28

player does different things. Maybe

13:30

we need some different players in some different positions.

13:32

The goals, the goals from midfield thing is also,

13:34

you know, one of the big complaints, but how

13:36

many goals are meant to check? How many goals

13:38

was Gollin Kamara ever scored in his entire career?

13:41

I think none. Not many. Yeah, it's not ever.

13:43

So what's the point? Gollin Kamara going like, shoot,

13:45

shoot. He's fucking rubbish at scoring goals. So maybe

13:47

it's the most sensible thing is you say, right,

13:50

at the moment, our team has got Gollin Kamara

13:52

in midfield, who can't score because he's rubbish at

13:54

it. He can't shoot. And then it's got these

13:56

four players in front of him from four

13:59

players out of six. They were all really good

14:01

at scoring goals. So what's the best thing to do? Should Gun

14:03

Kamara be shooting from 35 yards and

14:05

fucking Bradley Johnson in the South stand every

14:07

time? Or maybe he tries to

14:09

get it further forward and then we give

14:12

it one of the attackers who can score. If

14:15

perhaps next season we get a goal

14:17

scoring midfielder, I don't think Daniel Farka

14:19

will be like, oh, we've signed the

14:21

ghost of Gary McAllister. Do not shoot.

14:24

Things change depending on the players. The

14:26

shooting thing though, it's just a coping mechanism. It

14:30

was just gallows humor. And it came about when Furpo had

14:32

a chance to shoot and didn't. And it felt like it

14:35

had reached a point in the game where simply no

14:37

one was ever willing to

14:41

shoot and it was frustration. It's end of

14:43

season. I think my point is then that

14:45

I got to like fucking Farka, but I'm

14:47

like, well, some of all should shoot. He's

14:50

the championship player of the year.

14:53

Why doesn't he shoot? And I think, and is

14:55

it perhaps Daniel Farka has told him never

14:57

shoot in the penalty area. I would find

14:59

that unlikely. Maybe it's just that

15:01

maybe Somerville experience or

15:03

a different player is lashing the ball

15:06

in from those positions. The griped illustration

15:08

is a yes. I think the gripe

15:10

there, Moscow is not necessarily Farka

15:14

directly because Chris sensitive or something will choose is not

15:16

to shoot. It's that we meet banks of defenders and

15:18

it feels like we don't have a different way to deal with that.

15:20

I think, I think that's what the underlying kind of complaint is. Do

15:22

you agree? I don't know.

15:25

Partly. I think partly because of the

15:27

way we build attacks slowly, we inevitably create a situation

15:29

where by the time someone would ordinarily be

15:31

positionally in a good position to shoot, they

15:34

get it there with five players between them and the

15:36

goal rather than it being a quick, quick move that

15:38

gets you there where they've just got to knock it

15:40

around the edge of one defender and shoot. You get

15:42

into those positions, but there's a big wall of people

15:44

in front here because it's taken 30 seconds

15:47

to get there by going across the box two

15:49

or three times. And then it's just very, very

15:51

congested when it gets there. And it is, I

15:53

mean, the shooting at the end of the game,

15:55

it's just frustration. Yeah. It's last,

15:57

it's last day of the season. There's always a bit of.

16:00

But it's not like it's just come

16:02

up. It's been there the whole time. But then you look at that and

16:04

it's like, well, we attack slowly and

16:06

we don't do enough in the penalty area

16:09

and the top scorers in the championship this

16:11

year. It's, it's 92 last rate nine Southampton

16:13

87 and those 81. There's only three teams that

16:15

have scored more goals than those all season. Despite

16:17

the fact that, um, you

16:20

know, we never shoot. We're terrible in the box.

16:22

We can't attack. We're too slow going forward. All

16:24

the complaints, but you say that, but we finished third. Yeah,

16:27

which is good. It doesn't feel like it

16:29

does it though. It does. If you, if you take

16:32

a step back and think, well, there's 24

16:34

teams in division and you're the

16:36

third best of them, that's good. I mean,

16:39

it's better than finishing. I don't

16:41

know. 22nd, like Birmingham is better than finishing fourth,

16:43

but you can't, you can't strip the season of

16:45

context. Can you? And the fact that it was

16:47

there within our graph and we've let that go.

16:49

That's where the frustration, the disappointment comes. If you

16:51

take the middle of the game out of it

16:53

as well, it comes from looking at these final

16:55

games as a block where we've failed

16:57

to score against Blackburn against Sunderland. Yeah. I mean,

16:59

objectively, it's been a good season because we've got

17:02

90 points. We finished it. It would have been

17:04

enough to see as up in most of the

17:06

years context of this season. When

17:08

you zoom in on it, it's not been

17:10

enough. And then that's why people are frustrated

17:12

enough to get us into the automatic promotion

17:14

places, but to get into the automatic promotion

17:16

places would have required Lester or Ipswich to

17:18

collapse in an unbelievable way. Instead, they just

17:20

collapsed in a believable way and didn't let

17:22

us in. We were only in the top

17:24

two, four or five

17:27

weeks out of the season. It would

17:29

have been, if we'd have got automatically

17:31

promoted from how far ahead it's which

17:33

and Lester were, it would have been an

17:35

almighty mugging, a gate crashing. And we would

17:37

almost like, you could almost have said that we

17:39

don't, we never deserved to get into that.

17:42

But obviously you finished what you deserved to. But we

17:44

would have had to do some real,

17:47

yeah, it would have needed,

17:50

it would have been incredible. And

17:52

it wasn't incredible. Instead, it was just credible. And

17:54

I think third, that's why I go with anger

17:58

at the end of a season where we've had a lot of fun.

18:00

I don't think it's anger. I think there's just a bit of frustration

18:03

there. And you saw like the crowd

18:05

just sort of dissipated quite

18:08

early, you know, towards the end. There was no kind of staying around

18:10

for the, for the lack of appreciation or anything like that. A good

18:12

number of people, but they're doing that today. A good number of people.

18:14

It was never announced. I stayed till

18:16

the, till the bitter end. Yeah. I mean what you saw at

18:18

the end was actually, it was probably, I

18:20

don't know about a quarter full, something like that. I would

18:22

say a guess. And everybody

18:24

who, who stayed applauded

18:26

him off. And there was each sort of passing

18:29

chunk of the stadium. So it started at the cop

18:31

end. There was just a little roar of, as in

18:34

a lead's raw, as in we're still here for, you

18:36

know, we've still got your backs. But I think it's

18:38

fine to be frustrated and to express frustration at the

18:40

way that the season's peered out. I think

18:42

we all understand the reasons why it's peered out. Like say

18:44

young, young team, it's a bloody long season. But

18:47

then again, you look at how it's, which you've handled it and

18:49

they've just, just handled it better. And sometimes you got to say,

18:51

well, fair enough. Yeah. I mean, it's, you've gone

18:53

upon 96 points. I mean, yeah,

18:55

the hell of a target. We didn't,

18:57

if we'd have had the same season, we had under

18:59

bail. So we wouldn't have gone up based

19:02

upon this. And that was the best

19:04

season ever. We loved it. And we got 93

19:06

points, which would have happened. We would have matched

19:08

that today if we won, but it would have

19:10

been academic. So I think somewhere, someone, someone like

19:13

only would have the Wilkinson promotion

19:15

team. They wouldn't have bottled this 85 points.

19:19

Yeah. And two weeks before the end, we were losing

19:21

to Barnsley at home and then had to go to

19:23

the last day needing a winter, get it

19:25

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19:27

think that's the thing about finishing

19:30

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19:32

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19:34

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19:37

and only at the end of it, yeah,

19:39

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21:09

Proud. And then the old sadness kicks in. We're an emotional

21:11

club. Completely,

21:13

yeah. I said that. I

21:15

texted somebody right at the start of the game. It was just

21:17

that sort of we all love leading. Whatever song went up just

21:19

before kickoff of the ground filled up. I thought, yeah,

21:21

the crowd's up for it today. We'll get behind them and they'll

21:23

try and push them on. Sorry. Kind of Peter out.

21:25

Didn't you? They're just being lit

21:28

out of the balloon again. It got

21:30

quite exciting when we equalized. Yeah. There

21:32

was a little rumble, wasn't there? Yeah.

21:34

Not quite. So once it switched were

21:36

ahead, it was pretty much, you know,

21:39

we knew how it was going to end. And then

21:41

it just became, it's quite a catchy match on the

21:43

pitch as well, which, you know, so that referee is

21:45

a fucking prick. And then the referee

21:47

was really half of the Southampton players are pricks as well.

21:51

It didn't matter at all. No, but

21:53

fucking hell. What was she doing? It was

21:55

just absolutely all over the place. I need to

21:57

see a replay of what the hell was going

21:59

on. on in the penalty area at the end.

22:01

Because I don't know. I think it was either

22:03

there five

22:07

or 35 managed to wipe out two players

22:09

at once. And I was looking at that

22:11

and then we went up and

22:13

then there was Southampton started

22:15

to break and then somebody there was a foul

22:17

there, but it's one of our players came off

22:19

worse. So there was a moment where there were

22:21

four of our players just lying face down on

22:23

the grass. And then everybody

22:26

seemed to be angry with them to do. Yeah.

22:30

And I've got yellow card as well. But I think

22:32

telling the ref, he was a shit. And

22:34

I said, see, yeah, we're not

22:36

leaving. Yeah. Cause it

22:39

was our corner. Wasn't it? And I think for a purpose, I

22:41

may have said like ref that's very obviously corner and the ref

22:43

went, no, it isn't. I mean, I was, I was a lot

22:45

further away

22:48

than the ref and I could see it was definitely

22:50

a corner. I mean, as well, just to even it

22:52

up a bit to say wasn't a particularly

22:55

a lead taking bastard. There was a bit where

22:57

I'm Purdue did one of those taking a yellow

22:59

fouls and the ref didn't even give a free

23:01

kick for it. They were breaking and he just

23:03

absolutely clobbered the bloke. He was running away and

23:05

he just sort of went, ah, fine. Whatever it

23:07

to be weirdly hell bent on letting

23:10

everything go until it got

23:12

techy. And then two people would get into a playground

23:14

argument and then he booked both of them and it

23:16

happened a couple of times. Didn't it? And the

23:18

other night it was like, you know, all bets are

23:21

off. It was one with roots there for a throw

23:23

in where I think it was five was, um,

23:26

just, um, all over

23:28

him and like grabbing him. And

23:30

then the linesman was like, that's

23:32

a, yes, this should be a foul. And Russell

23:34

looked at lines. We thought, Oh, thank you. I'm

23:36

glad you've seen that. And then the referee came

23:38

over and booked both of them. I really kept

23:40

going to the lines. Tell him, tell him I

23:42

did nothing. And then that's when the same player,

23:44

then, um, it looked like he fouled with, or

23:46

as he went into the box and we should

23:48

have had a penalty, but we've got nothing for

23:50

that. So it was a penalty. Apparently

23:52

I've not seen a replay by, um, yeah. And

23:54

he came, sorry, at halftime and said it was

23:56

a penalty. And it came from, yeah,

23:58

that guy. think so though on sky. That

24:02

fucking credit. So it was confirmed. Yeah.

24:04

Richard's saying that

24:09

somewhere in among that melod on the first one towards

24:12

the end, a pyro nailed one of their players in

24:14

retaliation, which is petty.

24:16

But there was a point at which I

24:18

think somebody around me shouted that we should

24:20

start kicking them ahead of the playoffs. Just

24:24

get really, really petty and violent. Charlie cruder

24:26

breaks one leg or something. And

24:29

someone who's not going to play anyway, destruction

24:32

job. It's not going to be play. Right. We're

24:34

going to bring, we're going to bring Chris class

24:37

it on to take someone's head off. I

24:40

don't even know if he was on the bench today. I've

24:42

completely forgotten to even look at the bench, you know, head

24:44

of it. And then I saw Robert's coming on and have

24:46

like, Oh, is he fit again? Is he? Okay. Good. Like

24:49

Chris said, he might be all right for half an hour. I mean,

24:51

that's the one, the one hope for the playoffs is

24:53

I think everybody just needs a

24:55

break and to relax. Like

24:58

get the disappointment of the way

25:00

the season ascended out of the

25:02

system. And I was just, I don't know, I'm kind

25:04

of trying to defend a few things.

25:06

I think I just want to, I want a more interesting

25:09

conversation than just like everything's Farkas fault, which is what

25:11

it seems like. It's been over a few weeks. I

25:13

think that's been reductive though, isn't it? Because he has

25:15

to take some of the blame because I, cause you

25:17

wrote about it in your match report, like when he

25:20

hit the two points per game

25:22

target, and then how do you

25:24

follow it when we've kind of done everything that we said we

25:26

would up to that point. And then we needed to step up

25:28

and do something else. Which match report you wrote them, but it's

25:30

like, has he got the chops now to sort of kick

25:33

on and take it to another level after we've met the

25:35

target that you set? If that was the QPR one that

25:37

you were talking because that came up on the

25:40

Phil podcast, that was more about how he's got

25:42

nowhere to take these players because they're children, which

25:45

is what I was bringing it back to a soft play

25:47

area. Maybe that's it. They do just need to, because the

25:49

rooter looked like, you know, before he

25:51

subbed off, he looked like somebody who has

25:53

just had an earlier operation and has never

25:55

been through a 46 game championship season or

25:57

anything close to it in his life.

26:00

Summerville player, Championship Player

26:02

of the Year and all the

26:05

plotters. This is really seriously his

26:07

first season as a first choice

26:09

footballer playing every game. And he's

26:11

done brilliantly, but at some points

26:14

that you just have to take a step back

26:16

and go like, can they actually do this?

26:18

And I thought it was interesting in Farkas

26:21

press conference before the game when he was

26:23

saying, that internally

26:25

in September, he was saying there's no

26:27

chance that this team gets automatic promotion.

26:30

Because it ended up being the

26:33

summer and the process of getting rid of

26:35

Snaestera and all the stuff like that was

26:37

worse than he'd expected. And he said, he

26:40

didn't say this publicly, he was saying it

26:42

internally, which they don't think this team's got

26:44

a chance of getting promoted automatically. So to

26:47

get it is, and if you look through it, it's

26:49

almost, it's not far away from being an under 21s

26:51

team. I feel like the

26:53

squad as a whole has got a lot of talent in it,

26:55

but it's also in a lot of ways

26:57

quite horribly imbalanced in terms of

27:00

the experience in it. The

27:02

lack of goals from his field, as you say, grew of, not

27:05

as it stands, grew of, likewise, looks like he will never

27:07

score a goal. It's one or two in his career. Yeah.

27:09

So having set up in that way with, I know Grey

27:11

has scored at some under 21s level, but he's been a

27:13

right back for most of the season, because we've not had

27:15

a right back. Or if we have had a right back,

27:18

he's been playing left back because we've not had a left

27:20

back. So it's, there's a lot of high

27:22

value players in it and players who I think will go on

27:24

to have good, probably Premier League

27:27

careers. But is it

27:29

better to not have Somerville in this team and

27:31

have like three good other players, like

27:33

to have a Pat Banford replacement, who's experienced

27:35

at this level, to have a central midfielder who

27:37

can score 10 goals, to have another center back

27:40

so you can put him to do a

27:42

midfield sometimes. I feel

27:44

like the, it feels in some ways like

27:47

we're missing opportunity because next year we

27:49

probably will be going at this without

27:51

Somerville, without Nonto. And probably we'll

27:53

replace them with players who are not as talented and

27:55

without such a high ceiling. But we still

27:58

could maybe. I

28:02

always used to be against

28:04

the whole thing of letting

28:06

your best players go under

28:08

any circumstances because I've got good players who need to

28:10

keep them. But those were in the days when we'd

28:12

let Snograss go and Luke Varney would turn up. Now

28:16

I feel like we've got enough there that if some

28:18

of the star names do

28:21

go, we'll keep enough of the others and be able

28:23

to actually build the team a little bit more like

28:27

what Farka wants. So I was looking at, I

28:29

was interested in the goals from midfield things, so I was

28:31

looking at what Norwich did under him. The

28:34

one in the league twice, which is worth

28:36

remembering, he does know what he's doing in this. But

28:38

the thing that struck me, they didn't have loads more goals out

28:40

on midfield. They had some which

28:42

more than us. But the big

28:45

difference was that the midfielders were like 28 and

28:47

30 or 26 and 27, whereas hours

28:51

generally, Kamara is 28. But

28:55

Archie Grey is not. He agreed with his very

28:57

new, this league is only 22, 23. Archie

29:01

Grey is 18. I think as well, I

29:04

was looking at it today and we were

29:06

looking at why we're getting overrunning midfield.

29:08

There's a lot of credit

29:10

gone to when Ampedu went to central defence

29:13

and formed that partnership with Broden.

29:15

But would it have been, I mean, we'll never

29:17

know, but would it have been much worse if Stroud could

29:19

have been fit all season and we'd stuck with Ampedu in

29:21

midfield? And that just kept getting better and better. Maybe that

29:23

would have improved on its own

29:26

as a system and as partnership because

29:28

Ampedu in the first half of the season, you'd have

29:30

said, as best midfielder in the championship, this guy would

29:32

be centre of Armid Field for years. Then he goes

29:34

into defence and say, well, actually, no, it's the best

29:37

defender we've ever had. The

29:39

Stroud, there was nothing really wrong with the Stroud and Broden

29:42

partnership and Stroud was having his best season for us.

29:45

So that gets, that's a bit of a miss

29:48

as well. So yeah, I think that's why

29:50

I'm quite, still quite blase about whether we go

29:52

up or not this season because I'm saying with you, I

29:54

think next year we might actually just have a

29:57

better all round team and we'll get

29:59

fewer points. and win the league at cancer.

30:02

Parker's comments have started to come in

30:05

where he has said, I wouldn't

30:08

rate the performance with our normal standards. We chose a

30:10

risky approach because there was no other option, but to win.

30:12

We pressed man on man. We opened the center against

30:14

one of the best attacking sides. There was no option, but

30:16

to go for a wild style of football, but

30:18

more or less, the whole game, the opponent was in the lead.

30:21

We gave the goals away cheaply. I have to say it was

30:23

a special situation to draw or be rock solid. There was no

30:25

option. We had to take risks. He's congratulated Lester and Ipswich and

30:27

we finished third on 90. That's it. It was like

30:29

the same game as I just watched. It

30:31

didn't feel like a wild style. It didn't

30:33

feel like a freewheeling all out attack. It

30:35

felt like quite stagnant. We were,

30:37

it was a buggy, we were, we were pressing

30:40

them a lot more. What we got a lot

30:42

of was winning the ball quite high and making

30:44

chances. We were better at pressing,

30:46

which I think was part of cause Southampton love

30:48

to just have the ball. They were much more,

30:50

um, as much for

30:52

noticeable today. And also earlier in the season, they

30:54

loved the ball at the back and they play

30:57

in the penalty area. And we did quite well.

30:59

Joe Pirro taking the balls off their goalkeepers told

31:01

us twice and, uh, and winning

31:03

all the balls up there and creating chances and

31:05

creating turnovers was

31:08

pretty exciting. I think that's what he means by the

31:10

risk. We were still the same as when, when we're

31:12

in possession, I think part

31:14

of it, uh, I was watching

31:16

46 games. I might have finally figured it out. It's

31:18

like if Rodan's got the ball, we've got

31:21

a chance to turn over, but if, um, um,

31:23

Purdue's not in position, we wait, we kind of wait for

31:25

players to come back and then attacking our, um,

31:28

our shape. That was still the same,

31:30

but what was a bit different was, uh, Peru,

31:33

um, fucking moved

31:36

under big improvement from QPR. And we were doing a bit more

31:38

of that. Like I'm saying, he's a bit tired. This week wasn't

31:41

the easiest to lift the players, but the tank will be full

31:43

and we go again to win the best possible prize promotion to

31:45

the premier league. And did he mention

31:47

beating Norwich? Um, he had, I think he has

31:49

mentioned it. Um, I'll have a look, I'll dive

31:51

through the comments, but, um, in terms of, yeah, in terms

31:54

of the playoffs, um, I have the playoff schedule here. Look

31:56

at that. Um, it's

31:58

Sunday week. away. That's

32:00

a nice early start, isn't it? To get

32:02

down to East Anglia. And no

32:04

doubt we'll, funnily enough, we'll have, we'll have it switches

32:06

fans cheering us on, which is funny old

32:08

game and so on. And then the return leg Thursday,

32:11

the 16th of May, eight o'clock

32:13

kickoff UK time back at Ellen road.

32:15

There's some narrative there, isn't there a

32:17

possible Farka and Corberon routes to

32:20

promotion or I mean, would you fancy playing

32:23

Southampton? I wouldn't,

32:25

not really. I don't really fancy playing West Brom

32:27

either. And Norwich, could

32:30

we request a buy for

32:32

Norwich? Yeah. To the premier

32:35

league. Yeah. Okay. Now I've said,

32:37

I've said the opposite. I would, I would

32:39

politely declined in the playoffs at all. You're

32:41

going to put our faces back on screen,

32:43

Dan? I think people know the

32:45

rest. I think people know about the schedule.

32:47

No. I'm going to put

32:49

the table back on. No, it's fine.

32:51

It's fine. Isn't it? Yeah. I

32:53

don't know. The playoffs, I'm

32:56

aware there'll be people who've got better data than

32:58

this, but based upon the lead United in the

33:00

playoffs model, we're going

33:02

into the momentum. But does that even

33:04

matter? Because we went into

33:06

the press. I mean, I know we've never, I know

33:08

we've always never won them properly, but you

33:10

could make arguments for them being like

33:12

their own little self-contained separate

33:15

thing. Can't you in safaris? We went into them

33:17

under Blackwell, not playing very well. Then we beat

33:19

Preston tournament football. Yeah. Likewise. We

33:21

lost the home leg to Carl went

33:23

up there and won Derby. We finished

33:25

that season in bits. And

33:27

then for a game and a half, we were by

33:29

far the better team, right? It's, it's an

33:32

end. The madness happened. Starting

33:34

against Norwich, who are David

33:37

Preston and then grew

33:39

at home to Bristol, drew at home to

33:41

Swansea, lost away to Birmingham. Who

33:44

got relegated? There's well, that form is on screen now

33:46

that you've got draw, win, draw,

33:48

draw loss. And before being Preston

33:51

away, they drew to to which Sheffield

33:53

Wednesday away. But they did the Ipswich

33:55

before that at which point we were

33:57

all their bezies. But

34:00

they're not in the hottest form

34:03

either. So

34:06

maybe that'll even itself out. What did

34:08

West Brom do today? They don't

34:10

pressed on about three, no, I think. Yeah. Good

34:13

old three. Now, is there a Moet goal? And

34:15

the cow Bartley goal. How did I guess? Did you say what?

34:18

Did you say what rather him did? Steve

34:20

Evans Renaissance is back in it. Was it

34:22

five to the beat? Yeah.

34:25

It's very rare. It affects the West Brom and

34:27

Norwich games. There was a cow Bartley goal. Yeah.

34:30

Did you state that? No. Yeah.

34:33

Across the two games against the pair of them, West

34:35

Brom have basically looked quite crap, but

34:37

beaten as in drawn. Whereas Norwich, I think, have looked pretty good

34:39

in both games and we won both. Mad

34:41

in it. So see what happens.

34:44

Yeah. There is a bit more from

34:46

Daniel Farka says the reason he some

34:48

disaster. So this opening bit is a

34:51

question. The reason why we are

34:53

not in the top two, not

34:55

the last four weeks of the season, the first

34:58

two months, there's the start to put big pressure

35:00

on. I wouldn't say the players wasted

35:02

it by not investing enough. It sounds

35:04

like he's happy with what they've done since

35:06

then. Which

35:09

I was for the most part. Yeah. You've

35:11

got to be as well. I mean, we were, I

35:13

keep mentioning it, not mentioning it, but hearing it where

35:15

we talk about the unbeaten run in 2024 and

35:18

then it's like, well, they had to end at

35:20

some point. But then also it's like, why did

35:22

it fucking end? Cause it meant we didn't go up. End

35:26

later. If

35:29

it only ended with one game, one defeat,

35:31

and then we'd come back, then fine. But

35:33

I think it is. I was

35:35

saying before to get into the top two from

35:37

where we were at the end of September. And

35:40

you can already seen people debating like

35:42

how bad September was, but like the

35:44

lineup of some of those games

35:48

were a bit silly when we were Yampa Vader

35:50

was so close to the starting

35:52

games. Just put us

35:54

a long way back and to get

35:57

promoted from there would have

35:59

been extraordinary. So I can't really resent

36:01

us not having done the

36:03

extraordinary thing. It would have been

36:05

we would have been gatecrashes to window gatecrashes. We've

36:07

gone up autos and

36:10

just looking forward to us leading from

36:12

the front next season. What

36:14

time did my dad leave? He's been asked in

36:16

the comments. Famously, he likes to depart early. I

36:18

think there was a point he said. He said to me,

36:20

actually, it was just after the second half starting. When

36:23

he switched go to up, he said, I think I'm going to go.

36:25

And then I was like, got the alert through my watch. I was

36:27

like, are you off then? And he

36:29

didn't. He stayed until 72 minutes, watching it downstairs.

36:31

But then as he went off, he was grumbling

36:33

about, I'm not staying around to applaud blah, blah,

36:36

blah, blah, yeah, grumble, grumble, that kind of thing.

36:38

But so I discovered on the way out of

36:40

the out of the ground, shocking

36:42

thing. There's one of these stand gangways. So

36:44

there's two big entrance ways in the East

36:46

to get to the East lower. On

36:49

one of the walls there is a height chart of

36:51

all the players. It's like, are you the same height

36:53

as Santa, Santa, Santa? Crescencios Somerville is marked

36:55

on that chart as 175 centimeters tall, which I believe

36:58

is 5'9". Yeah, which

37:01

I think is 5'9". Isn't it? Well, I know he's

37:03

not, but I think that is. I think I'm 181. So

37:07

he's claiming he's only that much smaller than me. He's

37:09

ditty. Yeah, I'd say he's pulling about

37:11

to my knees. Yeah. How many centimeters does he

37:13

claim? 175, 175 centimeters. Yeah,

37:16

that's yeah, he's not that big.

37:19

Is he? I don't know. Maybe I've got it down this.

37:21

I mean, I've obviously worked out right. Yeah, I've

37:24

got it down this 570 foot. Yes,

37:26

that is about that. Yes. Yeah, that's about right. That

37:28

sounds about right. Five. Yeah. Five foot

37:31

seven. I think he's what you're looking for. Probably

37:33

five foot eight point eight nine eight is the

37:35

technical answer. So rounded up to five foot

37:38

nine, which he isn't. I

37:40

saw on the way in another.

37:42

I thought it was going to be a good omen. The cop

37:44

cap, alive and well and striding around

37:46

outside the West. And so I was quite relieved

37:49

that he is okay. Maybe

37:52

we should have brought him on to snap

37:54

a few of their players. I got an

37:56

update. I spoke to a contact. This week

37:58

who knows things. We handed some documents at

38:01

a car park. Yeah, yeah, that was it. Yeah. There

38:03

were lots of people gathered around some cars with some headlights pointing towards the

38:05

other car. They were peering in through the windows. I don't know what was

38:07

going on there, but some sort of different activity.

38:09

The cop cat was involved in this thing. No. Ellie

38:12

the Elephant lives in Binndex, East

38:14

End. Yeah, I think I've seen the pictures

38:16

of that. Yeah, there was a picture. I mean, a sad retirement,

38:19

isn't it? Somebody took a photo a

38:21

long time ago of, well, there were two photos

38:23

of relevance. There's one

38:25

of just Ellie the Elephant's head on top of like

38:27

a pile of old programs in the catacombs.

38:29

And then, yeah, I've seen Lucas

38:33

the cop cat basically in various

38:36

component pieces stacked

38:38

up in somebody's garage next to a wheelie bin

38:41

a long time ago. They

38:43

put Lucas back together again, and

38:45

he was striding around today as

38:48

tall and threatening as he's ever been.

38:51

That's Chris Encio Somerville. Well,

38:53

I think we've gone thoroughly off-piste enough now

38:56

as a coping strategy. So it's a weird day, though,

38:58

isn't it? Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? When you

39:00

saw the pictures right back at the start, you thought, oh,

39:02

that's going to be spicy on the final day. And then

39:05

I kind of then wavered between could

39:07

be a dead rubber in a good way or

39:09

could be a dead rubber in a bad way as the sort

39:11

of season Ebb done flowed. And it turned out to be a

39:13

dead rubber in a bad way. Better than finishing 15. Oh,

39:16

absolutely. Well, it usually was a

39:19

sunnier day. Yeah, it's a bit cold

39:21

today. It was it's dead, dead sunny and it

39:23

switches well. So, you know, if you saw the

39:25

respective TV pitches earlier, I thought, yeah, that's a

39:27

promotion day. This isn't they deserve it.

39:29

Anything because of the weather. Government assigned weather, isn't

39:31

it? Well, yeah. So what can

39:34

you expect? Oh, well, it's

39:36

because we've been criticizing this year. Probably

39:38

spoken to some people who switched off something.

39:42

Let's wrap it up. Go home. Recharge

39:45

the batteries. Eat well, drink well, sleep well. Recover

39:47

our honor on the fact of the play off

39:49

that all the players are knackered. It

39:51

is now a decent period of rest, isn't it,

39:53

in this part of the season, it goes to a more

39:55

standard, you know, well, get

39:57

a big rest before the final, don't you? Because there's

39:59

been enormous. gap between the two, which

40:01

seems over the top, I would say.

40:03

Hopefully the pressure will change as well.

40:05

Because the pressure is lifted, doesn't it now, I suppose, in

40:07

a sense, but there's a different kind of pressure, is that right? Today

40:10

should have lifted the pressure, I hope, because

40:13

even though we're saying it was a dead

40:15

rubber before, you're in that awkward thing we had to

40:17

say at the place. And Fark was saying it's press conference.

40:19

No, we still believe we can do it. And

40:22

so they're still going out there trying to thinking

40:25

that we can win automatic promotion that

40:27

somehow that's what they had to do. And

40:30

yeah, just a reset. And

40:32

then, yeah, it gets knocked out by Norwich.

40:35

And one final thing, might as well plug the merch

40:37

while we're here. Is that t-shirt in stock, the one

40:39

you've got on there? We all love leads. Uh, I

40:41

think so. It's on our website, squareball.net, as is loads

40:43

of other stuff. What we're going to do with

40:45

all that promotion stuff anyway, should we just keep it for another couple of weeks? We

40:48

haven't got any, by the way. We deliberately did not jinx this

40:50

or tempt fate by thinking, well, because we did, didn't we, under

40:52

the BL term, we're like, we need stuff ready to go. But

40:55

we didn't even want to acknowledge it was like a true thing. Like

40:58

it was a thing that might happen. So we're like, we can't, we can't, we

41:00

can't even address this. We're going to think about it. Where I did. I

41:03

mean, the BL stuff, some of it was kind of ready for a season and

41:06

a bit cause

41:09

we thought it might've happened that first

41:11

year. Anyway, but there's nice narrative, perhaps

41:13

with not quite getting there in your first

41:15

season, doing it in your second season, that's a nice possibility. Isn't

41:18

it? So we can take comfort in that. But

41:20

let's just, let's just get up,

41:22

just win it Wembley. That'd be better. Winning

41:25

at Wembley will be better than finishing second. I'm going to

41:27

tell you that now. Sun might be out. No,

41:30

the sun might be out. Is it? No,

41:32

in London. No, I hope not. I

41:34

hate London. No. When

41:36

we win the playoff final. No, I'm agreeing with you.

41:38

It can come out when it's full time after that,

41:40

but not during the game. Makes me too warm. Okay.

41:46

Fine. I don't want to be too warm in Wembley. I seem

41:48

to remember being too warm last time I was there and I

41:50

didn't enjoy it. I mean, that might've

41:52

been Cardiff against Watford. Get one of those

41:55

hats with the fan built in. Yeah. That'd

41:57

be nice. And also you'd look cool. Let's

42:00

go. Bye. Yeah.

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