0:08

hello and welcome to the stand with eamon

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dunphy now

0:12

in london, as we speak

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there is an implosion

0:16

of the government's to

0:18

tory party is at

0:21

war with itself and

0:23

there have a a of

0:25

resignations from bardstown since cabinet

0:28

rishi sunak, the chancellor the and

0:30

sajid javid the outside

0:33

before you bring the two biggest beasts,

0:35

two most significant the

0:37

years but there's been a whole

0:39

raft of junior ministers

0:41

air resigning indeed

0:43

it must be of to twenty an hour this

0:46

time last night and it seems

0:48

as if johnson's the

0:50

time as leader of the tory party

0:53

and five minutes of course is and

0:55

then which you won't be bad

0:57

news for the people of this country because

1:00

he has reduced relations between ireland

1:02

and britain the lowest and

1:04

for a very long time we're joined now by chris

1:07

jones former chief economist of the bank of ireland

1:09

an hour's fact it's commentator it's

1:13

commentator i don't think since the

1:15

departure of mrs thatcher way

1:17

back in the eighties that things

1:19

have been as bad as this

1:21

this has been the most dramatic

1:24

and continues to be twenty four hours

1:26

in politics of i can remember and

1:28

even the departure of margaret thatcher

1:31

didn't we have so many bodies

1:34

line around the place than this is

1:36

having and yet mister

1:39

johnson has appointed a

1:41

new chancellor of see a second and

1:44

he has appointed also

1:47

the new minister for health

1:50

you're obviously somebody

1:52

who has come down to johnson

1:54

very early as many of us think we

1:56

did this is who

1:58

we just establish house happens and

2:00

first he has been denying

2:03

now for several days that

2:05

he knew about this

2:07

man chris pinscher the

2:10

was a deputy chief last

2:13

week out assumption indycar to club

2:16

sure groped to

2:18

salchow conservative mps

2:21

and when people checked it

2:23

showed that he had a record going back

2:25

many years several years of

2:28

a misbehaving all sexual

2:30

assault and when

2:32

did was put the johnson that he

2:35

should never have appointed this

2:37

man to be chief whip which is

2:39

a he only did quite recently johnson

2:42

the night that he had ever

2:45

heard any specific

2:47

allegations about pincher

2:49

and his behavior yesterday

2:51

morning however the

2:54

former foreign office hamlin

2:56

secretary sign and mike tomlin accused

3:00

johnson of not telling the

3:02

truth and my son was declared

3:04

says he had him sorry told

3:07

johnson the details and

3:09

therefore this was yet

3:11

another lie the johnson's

3:13

having to justify the

3:15

appointment of someone who has been an ally

3:18

to him all the time so this

3:20

is yet another lie

3:23

on a pretty big one

3:25

yeah the interest stories the one

3:27

that has caused the most recent

3:29

for or a lot of course it comes after

3:32

a long line of similar incidents

3:34

in june i've discussed many times yes specific

3:37

events not unlike this one am

3:40

and we always concluded that

3:42

with with the thoughts it's you know when will the next

3:44

one come along and the frequency

3:47

just seems to come up there with as it's really

3:49

it's really mean used to be every week or

3:51

every month or so something would happen but now

3:54

they just keep coming and

3:56

for many of the people that have resigned

3:58

today and

4:00

yesterday it , to be

4:03

that the straw that broke the camel's back

4:05

and it was the specific specific

4:08

that were issued by ten downing ten

4:11

as he sends out a minister on monday

4:14

to sell saves to

4:17

lie about events as

4:19

about to always do that's part of the

4:21

pattern of these sorts of

4:23

things is that somebody from the conserve it's

4:25

cause he is wheeled out on the airwaves

4:27

the morning after the story is broken

4:30

it's have say all sorts of things on the instructions

4:32

downing street so it was with this

4:34

one and most tellingly the person

4:37

that was wheeled out on monday resigned

4:39

this morning yeah i'm saying is

4:41

basically saying he's had enough are

4:44

being wheeled out by the downing

4:46

street was seeking to tell lies on

4:48

it's behalf and ironically he

4:50

was ironically junior minister under

4:52

new genes or away at the department of

4:54

education yes the should say that

4:57

said and medina as

4:59

had is had highly is the new chancellor

5:01

of the exchequer very important job

5:04

given the economic crisis the world

5:06

is facing in britain the seventy facing the

5:09

harry was in charge of the vaccine

5:11

rollout and in a very good job it is a great

5:13

by most people do the person he appointed

5:17

them as health secretary steve barclays

5:19

d barkley they should we worked

5:21

in his office was his chief of staff until

5:24

less than twelve hours ago though

5:26

he just pluck them out and plunked him into

5:28

the department of ads which is about

5:31

as a very big deal the question

5:33

now is how he

5:35

escaped again i'm already

5:37

implications for the united kingdom

5:40

for britain for an for the tory

5:42

party because it's seen

5:44

now as it tastes saving

5:46

the party never

5:48

mind the government from the shame

5:51

this man has brought upon

5:53

an unnamed cabinet ministers been quoted

5:55

in the media today saying that set the

5:57

threat the johnson is using now is that

5:59

you bring the tory policy for they keep

6:01

going for him he sees the

6:03

states that were in it's historic

6:05

time i mean i'm

6:08

one , tempted to try and avoid

6:10

exaggeration and hyperbole puts a

6:13

foods and seat is a com the stay

6:15

in racine thirty five thomas more

6:17

who's and the king says minister was

6:20

taken out and executed and

6:22

some historic wax have been asking

6:24

will today's thought soon v

6:26

the day when the queen's sangster sangster

6:28

soon shuffled off the stay

6:31

in not in quite such a gruesome way gruesome

6:34

i've often concede to you have rory

6:37

stewart newsmax sorry

6:39

cabinet minister old italian minister

6:42

, sort widely to

6:44

being a member for majesty's intelligence

6:46

services and now a major major

6:48

critique from the sidelines who runs on

6:50

chosen in his in a bid

6:53

for the leadership lane johnson one

6:56

and he's come out in recent

6:58

times all guns blazing about johnson

7:00

and with each thing this he says

7:03

it is it really is excoriating

7:05

family out as recently as you that was written

7:08

or said recently johnson is

7:10

the most accomplished live in public life

7:12

perhaps the best lawyer ever served

7:14

as prime minister some of this may be

7:16

natural talent but talent lifetime of practicing

7:19

study as allows him to cover new

7:21

possibilities which go well beyond all

7:23

the classifications of dishonesty attempted

7:26

by classical theorists like since august

7:28

and his master to use of thera

7:30

omission exaggerations in unison

7:33

equivocate unison equivocate slats denial

7:35

he's affected as you streets so

7:37

come you cushion false equivalence and false

7:39

analogy is equally adept at the ironic just

7:42

said the grand line weasel words

7:44

a half truth a hyperbolic fly the obviously

7:46

of the bullshit like eli policy supposing

7:49

swear with it and because he's been so

7:51

things for the school for so long he comes is

7:53

represent reputation so a sense

7:55

to new levels are thankful paradox

7:58

see could say to me will resume rory

8:00

don't believe anything i'm about to say but

8:03

i would like you to be in my cabinet and

8:05

he still had me laughing in admiration categories

8:07

just really doesn't like johnson

8:10

is also describes on some m

8:12

it is against other goes by six use

8:14

evil he can't distinguish between

8:16

couldn't pass is a truly monstrous

8:19

figure a sega from a morality tale

8:21

that's what we're dealing with yet this

8:24

is and and and new legislation

8:26

as legislation sorry to interrupt if is

8:28

i really am sorry to interrupt yes

8:30

abbott's it's is in the context of what

8:32

you said about rory stewart we

8:35

he soon i can sajid javid

8:37

resignation letters cited

8:40

integrity seriousness

8:42

medley soon i said the country once

8:45

and the tory party needs someone

8:48

who is a serious someone who

8:50

has integrity and

8:52

that your job is it's a second time he

8:54

resigned from johnson dumb and he was chancellor

8:57

for a week or two before soon

8:59

as i stepped in and a reason

9:02

the damage resigned from the chancellorship

9:05

was that number ten wanted to

9:07

as effectively take power and

9:10

put it in the hands of dominic cummings

9:13

of all people over the

9:15

a economy and over the

9:18

budgets and things and javid walked

9:20

soon i walked in instead of him

9:22

these are big be sunday i in

9:25

the present tory party because a

9:27

lot of the people and around

9:29

the arab really nonentities in

9:32

the cabin is as you described the very eloquently

9:34

and bass yeah right whales

9:36

hags

9:37

journalists and after dinner speakers

9:40

you'll have to find something worse as

9:42

that's because as in gaza dinner speakers

9:45

hats lightning had some journalists

9:47

ma'am and reason to take action

9:49

against sued for libel this and these

9:52

and sees it is it is exactly are

9:54

gonna find something else to say that

9:56

specific event over which are designed the first

9:58

time isn't those are or just how

10:01

nuts this is ministrations has been for quite

10:03

some time is not just about this

10:05

event is one that saw that seems

10:07

were broken the camel's back as i say it's as

10:10

you might remember that what actually happens

10:12

he gets it was around about economic

10:14

policy between the ,

10:17

on the prime minister and tonic commons was in the middle

10:19

of this yes was cummings has

10:21

one of job his aides for

10:24

passed out on sorry street am

10:26

by an armed policemen yeah so she

10:28

was a young woman who occasionally

10:31

appears moon

10:32

this guy television and as we had

10:34

be is beginning to acquire broadcasting

10:36

career but it was a shocking things to do

10:39

the after the media is all over this this morning

10:41

as you rightly say the word bring in the

10:43

context of easy on it's he appears

10:45

in all of them as a serious and

10:48

the tabloid media exception

10:50

is the telegraph and as you have you mentioned

10:52

the mail all

10:54

of them the time for some even that

10:57

but newspaper were one of the deaf

10:59

she had it's is a was involved in

11:01

party gate because that's an illustration

11:03

again of how everything is linked to everything else

11:06

in this saga of

11:08

saudi , offense offense

11:11

because it was murder of and that's the presence

11:14

of that the x down the street different now

11:16

deputy editor of the some you

11:18

give us a newspaper that historically is

11:20

very very friendly towards johnson's

11:22

i use the word brink and

11:25

that they say time is running out

11:27

for boris johnson am a bot

11:29

with a caveat unless he delivers

11:32

for the british people for the told the editorial

11:34

is i can signify what the son says with that

11:36

word is that time is

11:39

time and as you say the

11:41

males you decreased piglet escape

11:44

even this and the telegraph another

11:46

great friend johnson says on the close

11:48

he's hanging by a thread so the

11:50

thing that i've been looking for really

11:53

signify the into johnson which is

11:55

that is friendly media starts

11:57

to turn on him classes started

11:59

yes the man or a dot

12:01

i think is is is absolutely

12:03

significance for there have been lots

12:05

of other little events over the last able

12:07

to not just most nations that are worth

12:10

mentioning to signify how this is

12:13

the , of the end at least in

12:15

the house of lords yesterday he can't make the

12:17

south somebody called laws true and

12:20

was making a speech about the pinch of

12:22

fat lords true and

12:24

who was trying to talk about the truth and integrity

12:27

which is at the heart of wobble this and

12:29

this name he just couldn't so i say mixes up is

12:32

the cabinet of ministers cabinet

12:34

of house of lords and he was making a speech

12:37

which almost uniquely was

12:39

greeted with scales of laughter

12:41

in the house of lords not normally known

12:43

for the souls of the asia and the leader

12:46

of the tories in the house of

12:48

lords was sitting next to him as a

12:50

woman called lady cousins and

12:52

see her sees was looking out the said trying

12:55

not to join in the laughter is he

12:57

was trying to claim that are is johnson's had been

12:59

telling the truth i'm at

13:02

his is just an extraordinary event and so

13:04

and so it's so he goes yes and

13:06

that is a had their one of his allies

13:08

winces as commons

13:10

and again offered some

13:12

air defense and people

13:15

were laughing heartily

13:18

and on the opposition benches and some

13:21

on the toy benches is an interesting

13:23

add add does an overnight opinion

13:25

poll by you gov it shows

13:28

that sixty nine percent of

13:30

the british feed the want boris johnson

13:32

to go now and

13:35

from our own selves point of view

13:38

in this country in

13:40

these aim , any

13:42

citizen of the u s

13:44

is lying has extended who

13:48

the i know our agreement

13:50

and to relations between this

13:52

republic and the uk

13:55

which were at million an all time high

13:58

not so long ago now oh

14:00

he's gonna plunge the the

14:03

you islands and

14:05

the uk the into some kind

14:07

of trade war the could get

14:09

very very vicious because of

14:12

legislation going to the commons

14:14

written by liz truss who is the foreign

14:17

secretary this is serious stuff

14:19

so it's also was evidently

14:24

the amusing and a cellist

14:26

it's surreal is the right word i'm

14:28

into words real is often use chris out

14:31

for context but this is less the with

14:33

the think this is the real

14:36

yeah i'm that woman singer

14:38

from the past i was the campbell is tony

14:40

blair's press secretary your another big

14:42

be super scala six and he still around

14:45

i'm making all sorts of ways on

14:47

on media's and he would actually name

14:49

checks alastair campbell by that

14:52

, how in his radio interview this morning

14:55

and in the house almost nothing

14:57

was he was trying to blame campbell

14:59

for all of these these

15:01

the civil war that is now taking place

15:03

within the tory party truly extraordinary

15:06

statements since in to make on like regular

15:08

but the hallway it's just been mugged by

15:10

the interviewer in various ways ne

15:12

peut some forensic questioning but

15:15

also the news live on air as

15:17

the how he was between that they were two

15:19

more resignations and

15:21

one from his own office so

15:23

the i think that he must have been with friends whose

15:25

to of name of and insects

15:28

checks but another

15:30

big beast of british journalism andrew

15:32

neil a name i'm sure you'll very familiar

15:34

with yes and he saw them

15:36

are we about a bar a about

15:38

often but oh yes no no

15:41

no no no guardian journalist

15:43

he doesn't see not am a

15:45

he would normally the early seventies

15:48

in his well as many

15:50

classes managing director of suspects

15:52

eight or it's conservative house general he

15:55

is or it's disposed towards

15:57

the tory party before how he

15:59

was appointed lafite andrew

16:01

neil tweeted was easy this would

16:03

be stupid enough to take home the job

16:06

of boris johnson's next chancellor of

16:08

the striker is and within ten minutes

16:10

is question

16:11

the answered so i'm fascinated

16:13

find our attitudes on the town's on it should

16:15

be said when the last

16:18

tory leadership contest was

16:20

them taking place all

16:23

the candidates the last went

16:26

and had their interview with andrew neil

16:28

johnson declined because

16:30

he knew i think that new

16:32

would with him to shreds and

16:35

the question i suppose now chris

16:38

one of the questions his who

16:41

is going to the

16:44

the next prime minister assuming

16:47

johnson doesn't survive unless rather

16:50

large assumption cause one of the things he

16:52

could do alto the polls

16:54

wouldn't encourage him to do it there's

16:57

another one i just cited call

16:59

a general election he has very little power

17:01

laughs but call a general election

17:03

county

17:04

that would be one way to and in a sense

17:07

of carry out that threats to destroy

17:09

the conservative party because i think in

17:11

a soft general election they with

17:13

he destroys not only they

17:15

would say to come back of inslee as as

17:17

he thought is usually do or they wouldn't

17:19

be very many of them on the back and says or does

17:21

he saw few of them and they're all now

17:24

and they would be a much weekend and

17:26

lesser opposition as

17:29

another interview that someplace this morning

17:31

an oven for of other assume that it

17:33

resigned to snub was too conservative

17:36

vice chairman we've already lost

17:38

the chairman of the party but this guy

17:40

and a salami with learning lots

17:42

of name's that we've never really heard of before

17:45

he gave and it's use or on radio it as

17:47

well this morning talking about truth and

17:49

integrity and the way in which is most recent

17:51

events as pushed him over

17:53

the edge and i think that

17:56

interviewing capsaicin awful lot of what people

17:58

have been thinking or the i'm

18:01

the betting on earth

18:03

who is going to succeed johnson

18:05

should he go on ah come on to whether

18:07

or not he is going to go in i'm in a moment but

18:10

as as the bookies who have

18:12

to get things wrong they go breaks it wrong or

18:14

the bookies this morning has made pretty

18:16

soon at the mgm favorite now

18:18

he was liz truss and

18:21

, wallace seats defense secretary who stayed

18:23

in face face some out he out

18:26

he they made for she said that because they think i

18:29

guess they think they echoes the remarks to the lot

18:31

of his arms swimming is that snack

18:33

has rescued some of his credibility is

18:35

the story that's been put out by snacks

18:38

aids and feeding them into the

18:40

media is that these be thinking about this

18:42

for a long time in his own resignation

18:44

letter he says to johnson and

18:47

like disagreed with you in private about many

18:49

things of the recent past but

18:51

i am a team player am i understand the collective

18:54

nature of cabinet responsibility and

18:56

in public have always supported you but now

18:58

this is a step too far

19:01

and that with that kind of it's and of

19:03

weaken the political moral

19:05

high ground such as it is and

19:07

snack is now being mentioned in dispatches

19:10

as a as the most probable

19:12

successors least in the bookies must be able

19:15

to johnson go when he goes

19:17

in there will be a lot of election

19:19

and obviously job

19:21

is such a job it is is such the frame

19:24

as well as i say there was a whole host

19:26

of things and this was also

19:28

will run

19:30

he will run as

19:32

the air to margaret

19:34

thatcher's legacy which is rather amusing

19:37

until you realize that it's only well

19:39

as a matter of weeks since she polls

19:42

the tank in a replica

19:44

of very famous out

19:47

iconic yeah photograph of margaret

19:49

thatcher taken standing

19:51

in his tank at the time of

19:54

the falklands war let

19:56

me ask you a sort of strange

19:59

question it will puzzle money

20:01

the book it's constantly

20:04

said the johnson is

20:06

a charismatic cigar

20:08

of vote winner and popular

20:11

with the people and it's possible

20:13

to stand that up in theory chris

20:15

he was an elected mayor of

20:17

london weiss and

20:20

it on in both of the

20:22

soldiers at terms of us

20:24

as the four year terms of of as he got into terrible

20:27

trouble but managed to

20:29

get out of it he's wounds

20:32

the bed was seats working class

20:34

people that obviously the abrasive

20:36

and their dislike of foreigners

20:39

as a season would he have

20:41

got a good record these as

20:43

in terms of going to the p both

20:46

eighty seat majority after

20:48

bad brags it was achieved achieved

20:50

one has to say with a big

20:52

offer as a lie that he no

20:55

intention of honoring i know

20:57

nine protocol one is

20:59

it about him to retracts

21:01

people in england the

21:03

ending was really

21:05

i think we should be speaking in the past tense or

21:07

because his own personal racing

21:10

in all sorts of different polls and couldn't

21:12

be worse compared to all

21:14

other tory politicians the idea that is

21:17

popular the country at large

21:19

no longer stands at least according to that

21:22

evidence but you're right he has

21:24

won elections in the past and he delivered

21:27

the bricks it referendum yeah and it's

21:29

and then he knows not new jersey and

21:32

then can you balls at the time asked people

21:35

why they liked in so much of a

21:37

very common answer is ,

21:39

direct answer your questions at the time

21:41

was he's the sort of chap you could go

21:44

down to the pod and have a funny twist

21:46

he managed to achieve that precious

21:48

from was inconsistent connecting with an

21:51

ordinary people ordinary voters and

21:54

i think that connections has been lost that

21:56

will be tested you know that it's the city being

21:58

tested at the moment and letting them them some

22:01

evidence for that on the and

22:03

wheaton reasons for that connection being lost

22:05

at the having over host of the last few

22:07

days and indeed over the last few months with

22:09

acetate wallpaper gates and

22:12

all the other case that that we've had

22:15

we've , i think when all of this was breaking

22:17

him he was was for me

22:19

to to read on social media lots

22:22

of people lots of listeners his podcast

22:24

reaching out to be saying yeah they were looking

22:26

forward to on next conversations

22:29

and one guy a guy called me

22:31

campbell is treated me several

22:34

times over of last few months to remind

22:36

even also is proverb which

22:38

is that when the clown into the palace

22:40

he does not become a thing rather the

22:42

palace becomes a circus yes

22:44

i think last was actually happens i think

22:47

that puts his brilliancy yeah analyzing

22:49

people of england's this is the answers

22:51

your question so like been

22:54

turned into a circus than

22:56

others the campbell i mentioned earlier on has

22:58

been on sky in other news outlets

23:01

today pointing out that in

23:03

movies international travels just

23:05

was foreigners think of great britain

23:08

and the united kingdom and it is very

23:10

much in the terms of that old robert

23:13

i'm people don't lie that people don't like it when

23:16

other people are laughing at them and say

23:18

know that johnson this turns uk

23:20

government's into a circus that it isn't funny

23:23

it wasn't so serious woodlawn am

23:25

i supposed historically will look back on this

23:27

and we will wonder how on earth did this

23:30

happen and we might laugh but there

23:32

are so many serious consequences you've

23:34

mentioned just one which

23:36

is what is now going to happen on the island

23:39

of ireland and because of the northern harlem forget

23:41

about are there are many others because of

23:43

the up until now one of the criticisms i've

23:45

spoken that on the spot doesn't have signs that policy

23:48

has never been an front and center

23:50

of what's johnson is all about he's

23:52

not be interested in the hard graft

23:55

off policies it's all about media

23:57

management headlines of hearing this

23:59

is a clown trying to make that connection

24:01

trying to beat now we establish that connection

24:04

with for the british people of the appointment

24:06

as the hallway signals were policies and

24:08

co next which is socially

24:10

and possibly in the opposite directions the

24:12

seriousness because soon that

24:14

said in his lesser in coded language

24:17

you want to raise government

24:19

spending cuts access at a

24:21

time now and there is no magic money tree

24:24

minus the markets of internal else we

24:26

now have to pay a lot of money to borrow

24:28

in the way that we haven't had to do for a long time

24:31

and the money just ate their primes the

24:33

and arouse that we've been having behind closed doors

24:35

and that's just too much for me and this is another piece

24:37

mind going was always on the

24:39

highway say i'm not going to the prime

24:41

minister's bidding so their economic

24:43

policy consequences to emphasise and

24:46

they are very serious along with one other

24:48

one that you mentioned which is across the northern ireland

24:50

protocol

24:51

the as on the in johnson's

24:54

plus call on his zielinski

24:56

the ukrainian president

24:59

who name checked them and thanked him

25:01

yet again yesterday he he

25:03

obviously knows jones's and troubles and

25:05

on the question of putin's

25:08

invasion and crucifixion

25:11

of ukrainian people johnson

25:13

and britain have been to the forefront in giving

25:15

leadership that was notably absent

25:19

elsewhere and up must go

25:21

in my view anyway incident credits

25:25

harlem there is another quote

25:27

it came to mind this morning because he

25:29

is the cancer so damaging

25:32

morrison in this country the

25:34

only was gone the dow's

25:36

observation and the american rider

25:40

go without who was a great with

25:42

as well as he said months

25:45

funny saw a friend receiving

25:47

an award at the oscars said it every

25:49

time i see your friends

25:51

of see a little part of

25:53

me dies he

25:56

is the the obverse a

25:58

would also be true the is a

26:01

mrs johnson is defeated

26:03

and finally have to

26:05

resign as prime minister

26:08

i think money is this will be

26:10

relieved and it's terrible

26:13

to see what he's doing

26:15

there's no way man because

26:18

he has come up behind this behind this

26:20

interesting question but you keep your i can't just

26:22

how fever on westminster isn't the amendments

26:25

a meeting and legal and

26:27

journalists this morning tweeted such

26:29

a the johnson should now

26:32

i'm to boost his popularity build

26:34

on his success with the length sky

26:36

and do needs to the night sky britain's

26:39

a cough paris

26:40

the have helped them how ridiculous

26:42

it's become yeah i'm just

26:44

a final version there's a

26:47

about the methodology

26:50

as i understand it the ninety turns

26:52

to committee has elections

26:55

for it's executives next week

26:58

the and an asian person commits a lot

27:01

yeah constituency the elections for which take

27:03

place next week and a long as

27:05

d enemies of johnson are

27:07

going to stand to get on that executive

27:10

because they need to change a rule the

27:12

rule being that johnson

27:15

having survived a vote of confidence

27:17

just said a fortnight ago would

27:19

not have to say the challenge

27:21

for a year as things stand

27:24

they intend two

27:26

get on the nineteen twenty two committee

27:29

executives and change that and

27:31

add to sigh have

27:33

another the election

27:36

the in which onsomu say the

27:39

opponent's am am confidence

27:42

of vote and there's a good all be

27:44

over before the summer recess which is nice

27:46

months

27:47

the i am some people betting that access

27:50

is , elections go their way johnson

27:52

will be out by the end of next week there

27:55

are three ways you go am the one

27:57

is the least likely is least suicide

28:00

evolution is , the all

28:02

evidence points of in of smith our

28:04

free zone before that actually

28:06

happens the

28:08

second is the coast that the next

28:10

scandal because remember we've always said

28:13

in always what movie x one and they will be

28:15

another one proceed in south asia

28:17

btc interview only btc recent days

28:19

saying i'm not gonna change if you think i'm

28:21

going to change forget about it and

28:23

sunny that was the strongest signal possible

28:26

that this will just for as long as he's

28:28

their these scandals roof seats

28:30

emerging and is the

28:32

covenant with him to resign en masse

28:35

that would be the end for and weeping

28:37

and always has to be peace resignations

28:39

but they're not enough know forces hand

28:42

is cove and wallace

28:44

cove trust and co all wins at the same

28:46

time the same that would be enough

28:49

plus the next likely

28:51

one that them that as the only real

28:53

way i think that he's going to go

28:55

is fire this nineteen twenty two committee

28:58

routes which means that is either

29:00

gonna the and next week or we have to wait

29:02

until next year

29:03

that should be fun swiss assess

29:06

is me a long ways i'm a lot of the

29:08

blood will be spelled and thank

29:10

you very much for joining us today that

29:12

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29:15

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29:17

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29:23

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29:26

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