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Hey everyone, I'm Brandi Zadrasny,
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a senior reporter for NBC News. Do
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you remember the name Tiffany Dover? You
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might remember her from late 2020, when
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frontline workers were first getting the COVID vaccine.
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She was a nurse who received her vaccine,
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but then she fainted, and
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it was all captured on a local news livestream.
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That video lit up the internet, and
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a conspiracy theory was born. Adding
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fuel to the fire after she fainted, she
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went dark. No social media,
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no speaking to the press. I mean,
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I tried to find her last year during the investigation
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for our podcast, Tiffany Dover is Dead,
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and I couldn't track her down.
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Well, two years after she became
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a weapon in a misinformation war,
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Tiffany Dover is speaking out for the
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first time. Her story and
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her words and the reason behind her
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silence are all in a special episode
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of Tiffany Dover is Dead.
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Stay right here to
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listen to a preview. And if you want to catch up
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on the entire series, search Tiffany
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Dover is Dead wherever you're listening and
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follow now.
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If Tiffany was alive, the thinking went,
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where was she? For a healthcare
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worker who loved posting to social media, who
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wanted to advocate for the vaccine, who
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was comfortable enough in the spotlight to get
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up in front of news cameras. What
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sense did it make for her to just disappear?
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Turns out, Tiffany felt the
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same way. I think that I should
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have been able to speak immediately the next day post
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regularly on social media. I feel like
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being silent is what flanked this. And
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I also feel like, you know, that
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would have been a perfect moment for us to speak
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out on, yes, I did pass out. You know, you can
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pass out from receiving a vaccine, But
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that's okay because it can also save your life.
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So it's worth it. That
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clear, passionate message delivered succinctly
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by Tiffany? didn't happen. Instead,
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as Tiffany tells it, decision-makers
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inside her hospital decided
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on something else, a plan that,
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however well-intentioned, objectively
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made everything worse for everyone. The
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morning after she fainted, Tiffany got a call
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from the public relations department. She
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started with telling me that they were very
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busy, overwhelmed by the amount of attention,
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that had traveled all the way to Croatia
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and that the hospital could
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not have me speak out because they would never recover
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from that if something like this was to happen again. Tiffany
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said the hospital was worried about her responding.
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What if she said the wrong thing?
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What if she fainted again? That was the
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first time I really felt like shame from it because I was like,
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oh no, like it was, I felt terrible,
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you know, like she's telling me that the
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hospital can't recover from this. I mean, I
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don't
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know. It was a lot for me to take on. Tiffany
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took the day off, turned off her phone
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to quiet the constant notifications, but
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she called hospital administrators later that
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day to check in. So I get
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my phone out, I call them to
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tell them I'm okay, and the first response
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is, under no condition should
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you post on social media. I know people will be reaching
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out to you, do not post, under no
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circumstance.
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Do you understand? And I'm like, yes, I understand.
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Everything needed to be done, and
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the hospital, still barring Tiffany from speaking
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on her own, decided to release a proof
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of life.
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You may remember it, that
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really cringey video where
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about 20 hospital employees are standing
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on a long staircase holding signs
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saying things like, we support Tiffany,
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and no one speaks? Including
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Tiffany, who's standing at the foot of the stairs.
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It made no sense. But
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you want to know what was actually happening? Many
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inner co-workers didn't know the hospital
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was making a video at all.
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They thought it was a photo.
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I'm told that there's a great idea. So we're lined
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up until we're going to take this.
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no and this will show everyone that i'm
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alive so
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it as you know when you go to take
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a photo you've stand there you smile
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maybe shift a little and
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that's it but this was not a photo
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as i realized once it was posted it was a video
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and net nobody with whereas you can tell from
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all of us just standing there in these with
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strange because you know it looks awkward we're
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not smiling waving normally
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you'd be like hey you know kind of i'm okay
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smile know we're standing for a
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photo so it's awkward it
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was strange on it's own but
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then true there's dissected every
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frame and concluded that no
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way was this person the tiffany dover
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they had seen path out this
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new tiffany this is
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not the woman
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that dad tiffany dover
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defer the phony which and
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her eyes were dollar they said neil
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to preside which a blue where the way and the fleshy
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for the boys and girls down to or
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journals her hair was part it on the wrong
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side tiffany's go some swoop did birch
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and she was she got the swooped you do don't
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appear they said she
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looked heavier have this woman
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that nothing is not only about twenty five
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pounds heavier than tiffany years but
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her her hair is dan then
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also the vest yet so i typically
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i would be required to wear a white
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coat to work but it'll of the chaos
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i forgot my cat i don't know where it was so
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i'm fit into this someone's white vast
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and it's like oh look she looks
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much thinner here than she did there will i have on a
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a vest that's not mine and
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that it was my hair you know
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i part my hair i think it was pretty
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to the left and the first one and then it was down the middle
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and that is because in i
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i called my friend a we can fix my have for this
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i'm about to go down she curls
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it i go down you know
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i want to say that
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yesterday when i saw you at dinner
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you had a part in the center thing
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as a day i it
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i am not a consistent
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harder. When I go to my
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hairstylist and she asks, where do you pour
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it? I do not have it pour it. It's whatever I'm
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feeling that day. That
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proof of life video did
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not make things better, I would say. Is that
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correct? I would say it made it worse. It
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made people suspicious because
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if I'm okay, why am I not just talking?
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Why are we standing there? care.
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You just heard a preview of a special episode
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of Tiffany Dover is Dead. One
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thing to mention, I did reach out to both the hospital
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and their parent company to see if they had any response
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to Tiffany's story, and I got one reply.
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We have no new information. To
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listen to this episode or the full podcast,
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you can go to the link in the description of this clip, or
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search Tiffany Dover as Dad wherever
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you're listening.
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