'it's the most magical place in the world.' in this episode of obsession of the month, steph and apryl are going in front of and behind the camera with two new releases about the magic of the movies: damien chazelle's hollywood epic babylon (2:42) and stephen spielberg's autobiographical coming of age drama, the fabelmans (35:51). they also chat more generally about the subgenre — what works, what doesn't, and whether there's still a place for movies about the movies (1:07:53).

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