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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. We have

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a really exciting episode today. Noah Tishby is

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here. She is the big

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Israel advocate. She was just profiled in

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the New York Times and we talked to her. Some

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news on the book. I am switching publishers.

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I'm not a huge fan of people editing me. So

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we're trying to work it out where we can keep some of the pre

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the presales. I don't know if we can. So you

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other presales. You just come by the book when it's out in

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the spring. But we couldn't

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really hammer out an agreement on

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what I wanted. So that's

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the way it is. You know, it's like,

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hey, who cares? So

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go out. We'll see. I'll do a little book tour in the spring. We'll

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be out talking about the book. This

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is an interesting episode. Noah

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knows a lot about Israel. She's a

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fierce advocate of Israel

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and a staunch defender of Israel. And

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I'm sure there's a lot of people that will agree with her.

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And

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there's a lot of people that will disagree with her. It's a very

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good conversation, very respectful. I

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appreciate her taking the time to speak with

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us. So without further

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ado, here is Noah Tishby.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. Special

1:12

guest here, Noah Tishby.

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I pronounce that right. I

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became aware of you a few weeks ago

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when you were on your Instagram

1:23

page talking about what's

1:25

going on in the Middle East. And

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I read a little bit about you. You are a very

1:30

accomplished person. You

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worked for Benjamin Netanyahu's government. Nope. No.

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Well, that's for very briefly,

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but we'll get to that in a second. OK, but

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I wasn't completely. I'm not completely wrong. I

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was appointed. I was appointed. So I'm

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a I'm Israeli-American. I was born and

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raised in Israel.

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I was a actress

1:50

and a producer at first. I brought the first television

1:53

show to the United States and treatment. So

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the HBO was the first television format to ever make

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it to Israel, to America, from Israel.

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I have been an Israel

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advocate and a Jewish advocate and

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worked in the anti-semitism space for a very long

2:06

time I started the first online advocacy and response

2:08

organization in 2011 and in Last

2:13

year was appointed by your Lapid actually

2:17

to be Israel's first special envoy for combating

2:19

anti-semitism and delegitimization and

2:21

I worked for

2:23

the Lapid Bennett government, which was the quote-unquote

2:25

the good government in terms of the American

2:29

kind of left and progressives and

2:31

Then the new government get in

2:33

which is much more right-wing and much

2:35

more Religious and I still

2:38

said I was gonna I wanted to continue working

2:40

because I feel like the space of anti-semitism

2:42

is more important than any politics and

2:45

then I criticized the attempt

2:48

in a judicial overhaul in Israel

2:50

and Was relieved

2:52

for my position so I can I I

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can say that I worked for the Netanyahu government for

2:56

a couple of months Briefly and

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you were dismissed. I was dismissed. Yeah, you were a critic

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of the right-wing What

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you felt was right-wing overreach of the Netanyahu

3:06

government,

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which is which is the perfect example of how

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you can you can criticize

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Israeli government policies While

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acknowledging that Israel has the right to exist

3:16

as a Jewish state, which is what

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we are actually here to discuss What

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in your estimation what has the media

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gotten wrong? about

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the narrative about what

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has happened since the Hamas

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attack.

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The question is what did the media get wrong

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in the past like 25 years

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or even more? So first of all, let's

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go back for a second on

3:39

October 7th

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Israel was invaded not by

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like a couple of cute terrorists, which is

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when we say a terrorist attack You kind of think you know

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five six ten nineteen like we

3:49

had here in September 11th What

3:51

people need to understand is that Israel was invaded by

3:53

nearly three thousand? Terrorists

3:56

not give or take so it's a battalion. It's

3:58

essentially a military

3:59

that attacked Israel from the

4:02

south, broke the border

4:04

down,

4:05

and invaded cities

4:08

and towns on kibbutzim with the

4:10

clear orders to murder,

4:13

slaughter, rape, torture, and kidnap

4:15

as many people as they possibly can. The

4:18

stories, the photos, the videos that are

4:20

coming out of it, so not only

4:22

did they create, like they caused the

4:24

greatest slaughter and massacre on

4:26

the Jewish people since the Holocaust in one day, so 1500

4:30

now people, men,

4:32

women, and children were slaughtered that day, the

4:35

level of barbarism and sadism

4:38

is beyond the pale, and

4:41

they filmed it.

4:42

So their intention was to show

4:44

the world and the Jewish community

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what it is that they're capable and willing to do. I

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can't, there's the beheading of babies,

4:51

the burning of families up alive, there

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was a, I'm sorry to be graphic but I'm

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just gonna have to be, there was a 30 year old woman who was pregnant,

4:59

they sliced her belly open, they

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pulled out the fetus and they beheaded that

5:05

fetus, such that they literally, I

5:07

mean, torturing

5:07

families next to the children, like it's

5:10

unbelievable. And

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this is something that Israel's been dealing with in a very

5:18

small scale for a very long

5:20

time. So there's this culture of

5:23

radical Islam, radical Islamic Nazism

5:25

basically, that is

5:27

not interested in what we

5:30

in the West think that they're interested in.

5:32

So what they're not interested is a two state

5:34

solution. What they're not interested is

5:37

living peacefully side by side. What they're not interested

5:40

in anything that we hold dear as our Western

5:42

values. And this is one of the things that I've been trying to warn

5:45

against for a very long time and a lot of us has

5:47

because we, you think that you

5:49

can, the American, specifically

5:52

like the left, right, is creating some sort

5:54

of a projection.

5:55

They're projecting their values on

5:57

the region and they're saying, oh well,

6:00

Certainly everybody just wants to live in peace.

6:02

Certainly every mother just

6:04

wants the children to grow up and have a great future.

6:07

And as a liberal, living in America,

6:10

when I moved from Israel to here, it was very challenging

6:12

for me to see that a lot of people don't get that.

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They don't get that, no, not everybody has the

6:17

same culture.

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So many, many years,

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to answer your question about the media. I

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also

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wrote a book,

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a couple of years ago it came out, and it's

6:27

called Israel, A Simple Guide to the

6:29

Most Misunderstood Country on Earth. And the reason I

6:31

wrote that book is because I realized there's

6:33

no book that tells the story of Israel

6:36

in a way that's easy to understand. That's like

6:38

fun, that's funny, God forbid, right?

6:41

And I literally wrote that book because the media

6:43

was getting Israel wrong all the time. And

6:45

that is, I mean, the book is selling again

6:48

really well and people are finding it now because

6:50

everything that's happening right now, including the media, including

6:52

universities, including all of it

6:55

is written in the book because it's been something that I've been working

6:58

on for a long time. There has

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been and

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is

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an anti-Israel media bias

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that

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as an Israeli and an American Jew,

7:10

right, is kind of funny when people keep

7:13

blaming the Jews for having a media cabal.

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Aren't there a lot of Jews that work in the media?

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A lot of Jews working in a field doesn't

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equate control

7:21

of the field. No, for sure. So here's

7:23

where anti-Semitism jumps in, which is anti-Semitism

7:26

is anti-Jewish racism. So you have this subconscious

7:28

bias against the other,

7:31

a people, right, blacks and Asians and whatever,

7:33

you come on suspicious about them. With

7:35

anti-Semitism, it's not

7:38

simple racism. So it's not, you don't

7:40

just look down at something or someone,

7:42

you look up at them a little bit. So anti-Semitism

7:44

in essence is a shape-shifting conspiracy

7:47

theory. And the conspiracy theory

7:49

sounds like, yeah, these five and Jews,

7:51

they control everybody, right? And

7:53

when you think to yourself, for real, that

7:56

the Jews control everything, and a

7:58

lot of your viewers and listeners right now are like,

7:59

Well, don't they?

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That is a conspiracy theory and

8:03

that is what allows later on for your opinions

8:05

to be about Israel to be completely skewed

8:08

If you think that the Jews control everything that of course

8:10

Israel is the big bad wolf because like the Jews control

8:12

everything And we're sitting there going we

8:15

are the

8:15

worst fucking cabal in the world

8:17

now

8:17

It was very funny to some

8:19

extent, but now it's not funny

8:21

anymore Well, no for sure But is there

8:24

a space like you said to be critical

8:26

of maybe the settler program? You

8:29

can credit expansionism

8:31

of you know moving in yeah,

8:33

here's the thing Yeah, you can be a Republican

8:35

a Democrat a libertarian. It doesn't matter what

8:37

right? Yeah, none of us love the policies

8:40

of putting kids in cages right in

8:43

The border right nobody well liberal

8:45

Jews have been the ones who've advocated on behalf

8:47

of having a lot of

8:49

Immigration wait wait wait wait

8:51

wait wait wait wait pause pause

8:52

for a second. That's another

8:54

Wait just a second nobody is for any

8:57

their policies in America that we don't love right

8:59

or

9:00

nobody's talking about dismantling America

9:03

Right, but I don't think any serious people are talking about

9:05

this

9:05

man. You think so are you seeing

9:07

what's happening on colleges? I literally had the same

9:09

argument with you are and he's like no

9:11

and I'm like college have gone insane

9:13

But that's the young American

9:16

minds that are going around and saying from the

9:18

river to the sea Palestine will be free and

9:20

they're saying something like this and this is something that I've noticed

9:22

like Ten years ago right the

9:25

conversation about Israel in certain circles

9:27

turned from policies Bibi

9:30

Netanyahu yes or no settlements yes or

9:32

no policies, which is totally legit to have

9:34

a conversation about the something that sounded like this, right?

9:37

Yeah, but like is Israel a real state

9:40

though, or is it like a colonialist

9:42

settlers endeavor that needs to be dismantled

9:45

And that is something that it can't

9:47

we can't allow to happen The

9:49

only country that you have a debate on whether our

9:52

truth exists I

9:52

don't I don't know of any serious

9:54

person that I know of that has said

9:57

Israel doesn't have a right to exist You're absolutely right

9:59

Normal people that actually have education

10:02

know this, but you watch the ones that are ripping

10:04

the posters of the

10:04

kidnapped kids. But these are all good people

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for Democrats. Still do. And the

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Democrats have been very pro-immigration. Okay.

12:21

And recently there have been a lot

12:23

of, you know, protests

12:25

happening, you know, not only in America, but

12:28

in places like Australia, where they yelled

12:30

gas to Jews at the opera

12:32

house.

12:32

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12:34

it's a massacre that occurred in the Jewish people

12:37

that people on the left are asking for more

12:39

massacre.

12:40

Why are the, why are Jewish people so

12:43

devoted to the Democratic Party when the Democratic

12:45

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12:48

America, no matter what their feeling

12:50

is towards Jews or what their values are, or

12:52

whether they like Western culture or not. Why

12:55

have the

12:57

Jewish people historically been so pro-Democrat?

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Well, I can't answer to immigration specifically

13:02

because everybody knows from the Democrats or

13:04

Republican, everybody knows that we need to

13:07

have some sort of an immigration reform. There's no question about

13:09

that. Although I got to say that saying

13:11

that there's no immigration system that's based on merit

13:13

is also insane because I came

13:15

into the country based on an immigration system that's based

13:17

on merit. I had to prove that I was, it's

13:19

called extraordinary in this field. That's how I

13:21

got my citizenship, which I'm a very

13:23

proud American too. I do think

13:26

that, do you think it's a little far though to,

13:28

I understand, listen, college kids are

13:30

nuts. Do you think it's a good idea

13:32

when you have the CEOs of companies

13:35

coming out and going, I want a list of all the college kids

13:37

who went to the protest. I want a list

13:39

of everybody who signed this letter to the Harvard

13:42

Crimson or whatever. Can I tell you something? Because it does

13:44

seem like it's a little. A cabal behavior. Well,

13:47

it does seem overly paranoid and

13:49

it does seem like, I completely understand

13:51

where it comes from, but I don't think it's

13:53

the right course of action to take

13:56

because it feels, again, it feeds

13:58

into the idea.

13:59

Of a control of

14:01

it. Yeah, it's people going I want to know everybody

14:03

who's ever disagreed with me And if a dumb kid

14:05

is 19 and goes to a protest should

14:08

they never get a job or should they be blacklisted?

14:10

I got to tell you

14:11

all I'm for is equal opportunity Okay,

14:13

and what we have seen is the Jewish community in the past

14:15

like few years, right?

14:17

Is that every marginalized community is getting

14:20

protected is getting people are Sensitive

14:24

about it. There's no microaggressions

14:26

towards any other marginalized community Everybody's

14:29

very sensitive when it comes to the Jewish community

14:31

when it comes to Israel Which is protected

14:33

on the title six right as a human right of

14:35

the of the Civil Rights Act, right?

14:38

All bets are off. So right now what's happening

14:40

is the pendulum is going to the other direction Look, am

14:42

I for any kind of naming names?

14:45

I'm absolutely not but right if somebody

14:48

said something anti Racist

14:50

or anti or xenophobic or anti

14:53

or misogynistic They're gonna get

14:55

repercussions and up until now if

14:58

somebody said anything anti-Semitic there were no

15:00

repercussions

15:01

So I'm I'm all for equal opportunity

15:04

if you're doing this for any other minority you do that

15:06

for the Jews as well because let's just Do

15:08

you know how many Jews there are in the world what

15:11

the percentage of Jews in the world?

15:11

Me yeah, do I know how

15:14

many Jews? Yeah, you have to know you

15:16

don't I would say it's 10% of 10% of the

15:18

population

15:19

That would be like population maybe 3% I Grew

15:23

up in Long Island and now I live in Beverly Hills

15:25

So my answer when somebody says how many

15:28

Jews are it's always too many because

15:30

I come from Long Island

15:31

Use in the world

15:33

is

15:35

0.1 8 that's wild

15:37

there are

15:38

Okay, let me say that's very few 14.9 or 15.1

15:42

depend on who your count or what you're counting

15:45

million Jews in the world.

15:46

So let's just go 15, right?

15:48

That's it. Wow. That's it.

15:50

It's less than the population of LA. That's

15:52

it Yeah,

15:53

that's it in the entire universe

15:55

and Jew and the Israel is the only Jewish

15:57

state

15:57

Israel is the only Jewish state They're 21 era

16:00

upstate give us a fucking break

16:02

that's what we can say we're like relax on

16:04

this we are a minority

16:05

we are marching like a community. Is it okay to look at the context

16:08

of it like I fully think that the Hamas attack was

16:10

barbaric and that Israel has a right

16:12

to defend itself that's 100% the case. Does

16:15

Israel have the right to exist? I

16:17

believe so. Great then by the way to your

16:19

viewers

16:20

you're a Zionist.

16:22

Well I don't know well but here's

16:24

the thing I will say you're just afraid of that

16:26

word. Hang on hang on you just let's just talk about

16:28

that word for a second because the word was taken

16:30

away from us to mean something different.

16:31

But they won't let me host a daily show. Why?

16:35

I don't know but if they do I'll be a Zionist. But they

16:37

won't. What does that have to do with anything? They won't even give me a test.

16:39

They won't even give me a test. How come?

16:41

What? Why not? I don't know. What does that have

16:43

to do with being a Zionist? No I'm kidding. Talk to

16:45

the Kabbalah. Can I tell you one more thing?

16:48

I've been saying this for like two years I've been joking.

16:50

I'm like they keep saying we have a Kabbalah. May as well

16:52

start acting like we fucking do. So

16:54

the thing

16:54

about being a Zionist is like I'm

16:56

not an evangelical Christian because I'm not going

16:59

out there being like you believe in Jesus. To

17:01

me Zionism is like this weird evangelism

17:03

where it's like you're going out and telling

17:05

people all the time. Isn't that what it kind

17:07

of is? Absolutely not but I love that we're having

17:09

this conversation. I didn't know what it is. I've noticed

17:11

in the past like decade or so that people are saying

17:14

Zionism as if it's like some sort of an evil

17:17

Zionism. It's the Jewish people's right to our state. That's it.

17:19

That's all it is. In a little bit more kind

17:22

of elaborate way.

17:23

Is it is it is inherent

17:25

in that the Jewish people's right for the

17:27

state to be wherever Israel wants

17:29

it to be and where the borders are?

17:31

Absolutely not.

17:32

Zionism is a movement

17:35

for Jewish liberation and self-determination in

17:37

some parts of their ancestral land in a

17:40

Jewish not an exclusively Jewish state.

17:42

So it's never supposed to be an exclusively Jewish.

17:45

It's not now.

17:45

But it is pretty much an ethnostate

17:48

now.

17:48

No it isn't. There are 21% of Arab

17:50

Israelis. Arab Israelis, Palestinians living within

17:52

Israel. But they're Jewish. No.

17:54

They're Muslims and Christians. And they

17:55

have full voting rights.

17:57

Full voting rights. That's the other.

17:59

Bullshit. Well, I'm just saying what's

18:02

out. You're amazing. I'm that's why I'm coming on the show

18:04

out there Listen, I'm coming on a comedy show in the middle

18:06

of a war. So obviously it's important

18:08

right, right, you know And I'm not I'm not making

18:10

light of

18:11

anything no course

18:13

Israel's the only country in the way in the in the Middle East where

18:15

Christian population is growing

18:16

Okay, Israel is not an apartheid state

18:19

That was something that has been like the popular

18:21

people are gonna be watching this right now and their minds gonna

18:23

go By the way, I

18:26

told you this before with dirt get ready for a lot

18:28

of hate Well, the reality

18:30

is I when people come on I let them say what they're

18:32

gonna say because this is but I love

18:35

you Gotta push back on I am pushing

18:37

back a little bit But I believe

18:39

in in the the ability of anybody

18:41

to go and speak freely. Yes, and that's

18:44

what I've always believed That's what I built my career

18:46

on Go

18:50

back to the apartheid stage because your viewers and listeners

18:52

are gonna freak out right now Okay, right within

18:54

the green line within the state of Israel what is defined

18:57

as what is the state of Israel? They're equal

18:59

rights one one person one vote. There

19:01

are Arab Muslims on the Supreme

19:04

Court bench There's a Supreme

19:06

Court judges in Arab a Supreme Court judge

19:08

has sentenced the former president of Israel

19:10

to jail There are twenty one point

19:12

eight percent of doctors and nurses

19:15

in Israel

19:15

are Arabs

19:16

Arab Israelis have the same

19:18

rights as Jews

19:20

Okay, now

19:22

Gaza is not even occupied by Israel

19:24

at all.

19:25

Right? So Gaza was That's

19:27

what's supposed to be Palestine.

19:28

Number one.

19:29

The West Bank is a military

19:32

control on hold been Waiting

19:34

to negotiate some sort of a piece with the Palestinians

19:37

So when you talk about Israel's in apartheid

19:39

state, you are a hundred percent wrong If you want to talk about what's

19:41

happening in the West Bank,

19:43

that's a whole other conversation the

19:44

people in Gaza cannot leave Well,

19:46

of course, they can't leave right because Hamas is

19:48

not letting them out even through raffia

19:50

through Egypt, right? But they're living in this

19:52

place. It is kind of like a prison a hundred

19:54

percent They're existing in these horrible conditions

19:56

a hundred percent Israel has limited

19:59

the type of supplies that can go in there historically.

20:01

You know why?

20:02

I don't. Because for years we've been saying that Hamas

20:04

has taken the supply to build tunnels, to

20:07

arm, and look at what happened. You

20:10

know right now that they found out that Hamas

20:12

is holding

20:13

gasoline, not giving it to the

20:15

population, not letting them leave.

20:17

Didn't Israel

20:18

fund Hamas and didn't they want

20:20

Hamas instead of the PLO because Hamas

20:23

was more extreme and easier to delegitimize,

20:25

whereas the PLO was pushing

20:28

for two-state solution. Has Israel always

20:30

been interested in a two-state solution or is

20:32

their support of Hamas signaling

20:35

that they actually don't want a two-state solution? They'd

20:37

rather this crazy terrorist group controlling

20:40

Gaza so that they never have to have a two-state

20:42

solution.

20:42

A lot to unpack there. So

20:44

Israel is along with

20:46

Hamas, with Qatar, with the U.S., everybody

20:49

kind of fell into Hamas pretend

20:52

game. So Hamas in their charter

20:54

is very clear, and I talk about this in my book, that what

20:56

they're after is destroying the Jewish state, jihad

20:58

on all the Jews, slaughter all the Jews

21:01

except for the ones that are hiding behind the Jewish tree,

21:03

and then the

21:04

tree and the stone are going to say, oh, there's a Jew behind

21:06

me, like it's ridiculous. It's a joke. It's

21:09

almost like a joke, their charter. But that's what they're

21:11

after. In recent years they've been playing a

21:13

game of like, no, no, no, you can work with us. It's

21:15

fine. Well, we'll be okay.

21:18

And Israel mistake, mistook

21:21

this, like literally made the mistake of thinking that they actually

21:23

want to rule the Palestinians, that

21:24

they're actually interested in some sort of a normality,

21:27

and they were not. This was a ploy in

21:30

order to destroy Israel, and

21:32

what they did in the process is sacrifice

21:34

Gaza. And it's not for nothing, by the way. The

21:37

Hamas

21:37

believe they could destroy Israel. Israel's

21:40

so- They had a plan. But

21:41

Israel has so much military supremacy. That's

21:44

true, but they did a very- The Hamas would only

21:46

make it destroy them.

21:47

First of all, they slaughtered 1,500 Israelis

21:49

and mutilated bodies and raped women.

21:52

So to them, this is a big win.

21:53

Yeah, it's very- it's incredible

21:58

they were able to do that. And

22:01

is there a massive investigation in Israel now

22:03

how that happened? Look the military everybody

22:05

woke up the military I was like this. It's

22:08

on the offense. It's everybody everybody

22:10

woke up This was a very very very

22:12

very well planned up planned operation. I said

22:15

this from the beginning I'm like, yeah Hamas they they

22:17

they put a good effort They

22:19

put a really good effort good for them, but you know who else

22:21

put a good effort in destroying the group

22:23

Germany exactly right Nazis also

22:25

put a good fucking effort Else in

22:28

the Inquisition days. They also put a good effort. So

22:30

every few years Some

22:32

evil shit people try to put a good effort

22:34

to exterminate the Jews and then never in the long

22:37

term works But this was a big

22:39

thing and ever also remember this is Israel

22:42

and Hamas and the whole region Hamas

22:44

is a pawn of Iran

22:46

and Iran sacrificed when people

22:49

the Israel funded Hamas. What are they talking about?

22:51

Bullshit Israel funded Hamas It was like Israel

22:53

allowed Hamas through Qatar to get money

22:55

because they thought they're gonna rule Gaza because they're two million

22:58

people there and Israel Is trying to help

23:00

them to rule these people and

23:02

honestly anymore. It's not the responsibility

23:05

Israel

23:07

might have known just the same way that we funded

23:09

the Soviets against I'm

23:12

sorry. We funded Al Qaeda against the

23:14

Soviets Is there any part of Israel

23:16

thinking when they're allowing Hamas

23:18

or to get money or funding Hamas? Are they

23:20

going like we would rather the representatives

23:23

of Palestinians be these crazy terrorists

23:25

instead of like legitimate?

23:27

People it's very it look there

23:30

were elections and Hamas won, right?

23:32

So you Israel was given two entities

23:35

kind of going could you guys unite into one

23:37

look at the establishment of Israel? There was

23:39

the Haganah the ettal in the lehli there were three

23:41

separate kind of entities in the issue of in the

23:43

Jewish issue There were kind of

23:45

like militant in their ways and trying

23:47

to build a state in their ways and David Ben-Gurion As

23:50

soon as the state was funded He's like done

23:52

with everything enough with all of this everybody underneath

23:55

the IDF I'm gonna end and if one government one

23:57

voice

23:57

one Jewish people because the commitment

23:59

of the Jewish people was always

24:02

to have a state.

24:03

It wasn't to destroy anybody else. And

24:05

Hamas's commitment is destroying the Jews.

24:07

They're not interested.

24:08

Hamas is insane and we

24:11

know that.

24:11

And they've put the entire

24:13

Arab world now in trouble because this is,

24:16

also Iran sacrificed them. Basically

24:18

they are the, you

24:20

know, the

24:21

Sunni. Father Zizek, he came

24:23

out and he said, listen, the attack is barbaric. Israel

24:25

has a right to defend themselves. He goes, let me. But

24:27

he also said, there does seem to

24:30

be a knee-jerk reaction where we

24:32

can't look at context. And context never

24:34

justifies anything, right? But

24:37

there's the context of where

24:39

this comes from.

24:40

Yeah, I disagree with

24:42

this vehemently.

24:43

Well, okay, but I'm just saying what's out there. I'm saying what's out

24:45

there. I'm sorry, that's why I'm here. I understand when

24:48

you talk about context, when you talk about

24:50

people from Ramallah protesting

24:53

peacefully and saying, let's

24:55

build NGOs and let's build a government,

24:58

that's okay. Because what they're after

25:00

is what the Jewish Yeshuv was after, which is a state.

25:03

They're after building something for themselves. Hamas

25:05

is just not interested in that.

25:07

I don't think Hamas is interested in that. And I agree

25:09

with you. So there's no context. What they want-

25:11

The context is that there's two million Palestinians

25:14

that are not necessarily in Hamas,

25:16

right? That's the excuse

25:18

is the occupation. Well, they're living in crime. But

25:20

again, there's no occupation in Gaza.

25:23

This could have been Singapore. Israel

25:25

has left Gaza, the settlements,

25:27

these really settlements that are being built.

25:29

Where? They're

25:30

built, well, Golan Heights, a bunch of places,

25:32

right? Golan

25:32

Heights is a done

25:34

deal. But the whole idea is

25:36

that the UN has been roundly critical of Israeli

25:38

settlement-

25:39

You're talking about the West Bank. You're not talking

25:41

about Gaza because there are no settlements in Gaza. By

25:43

the way, when Israel left Gaza, unilaterally

25:45

pull out of Gaza in 2005, we

25:48

left houses and greenhouses

25:50

and farms and we left everything. And

25:52

you know what Hamas did with them? Yeah.

25:55

They burned them down.

25:56

Because when we hear about Palestinians going, Hi, I'm

25:58

being convicted from my home, I have this deed that- It says I'm on

26:00

this home. I'm being evicted from it. We're talking about Hawara.

26:02

We're talking about all that stuff, right? Let's be

26:05

specific. I know what you're talking about. We'll be specific.

26:07

This is what Israel is criticized for throughout

26:10

the world. And listen, I'd rather live in

26:12

Israel. It's much nicer. It's

26:14

more progressive. We know that. We

26:16

know that the values are... You know who else prefers to live in Israel? Gay

26:19

is women, everybody. 86% of

26:21

Arab Israelis say that they do not wish

26:24

to live in a Palestinian state should one get created.

26:26

Theocracy is never

26:28

the form of government that I

26:30

choose. 86% of Arab

26:31

Israeli Palestinians prefer to stay living in

26:33

Israel than live in a Palestinian state should one

26:35

get created. But the

26:35

issue of settlements, the issue

26:38

of the expansionist nature of the

26:40

state of Israel, is this something

26:42

that you... Is there anything

26:45

that you can see? Do you go, we've

26:47

made mistakes or things have happened that shouldn't

26:50

have happened?

26:50

Absolutely. Again, you know why?

26:52

Because Israel is a country and countries make

26:55

mistakes. That's right. Not America.

26:57

Not us. Again,

27:00

by the way, they're trying

27:02

to... What they're trying to do, all these like

27:05

these protest

27:05

movements right now that are yelling and screaming about

27:07

the occupation. They're not talking about occupation 67,

27:10

which is the West Bank and the settlement. They're talking about the whole thing.

27:13

Exactly. They don't want

27:14

to be in 1948. They're trying to re-litigate

27:18

the war of 1948 that Israel didn't want,

27:20

didn't start and won.

27:21

Right. Right after the Holocaust. OK,

27:24

so that's number one in terms of the settlement. When you read

27:26

my book, you understand exactly where I stand politically.

27:28

Do I think the settlements are great? No. Do I think that they're

27:31

red herring? Fuck yeah, because you're

27:33

talking about expansionism.

27:35

OK, and you still have to understand

27:37

that even in the West Bank, which is a disputed state,

27:39

it's still under military control. It never was annexed

27:41

by Israel, not even under the right wing government.

27:44

So everybody's aware that that is kind of like a limbo

27:46

area. Right. 90% of the Palestinians

27:49

live under Palestinian rule at the areas A

27:51

and B. Right.

27:52

And in terms of numbers, it's not that expansionism

27:55

when there are about 40, 450 or four hundred and

27:58

ninety five thousand Jews there and two point. million

28:01

right Arab so it's not that

28:03

expansionism it's just that every time

28:05

you hear about this deed

28:07

you kind of go a deed

28:08

right and people don't understand Americans are kind

28:10

of like what's with that deed and it's terrible America

28:13

somebody

28:13

if somebody was out of their home well this

28:15

is this is if somebody was living in some a

28:18

place that they owned and they had proof of ownership

28:20

well do they though

28:22

I've seen things where they've had deeds

28:24

saying they own the house but even if they didn't have deeds the idea

28:26

that you can just go and evict somebody

28:29

from a house and make them homeless

28:31

that is seen horrible they've seen

28:33

as a war crime violation of international

28:35

law it's a hundred percent horrible but again

28:37

when you're talking about Hawara specifically is

28:40

a land dispute it's a it's an ownership

28:42

dispute

28:43

there are two groups that are pretty extreme in

28:45

their

28:48

positions and they're trying to duke it out and they

28:50

know that this is gonna cause international

28:53

uproar and again I'm not

28:55

even talking in this conversation and the conversations

28:57

that we're having right now because remember there's a war going on

28:59

in Israel right now right I'm not even

29:01

talking about who did what and what the land

29:03

this has nothing to do with it this is about people that want

29:05

to exterminate

29:06

Jews period for sure I was just

29:08

for sure I was just saying that there is all of this

29:10

murkiness has been unending for

29:12

a long time as long as I've grown up we've always

29:15

heard about violence in the Middle

29:17

East two-state solution getting

29:19

close never quite getting

29:22

why are we never getting there

29:24

I would say that it just

29:26

the deal hasn't been made

29:29

why wasn't it made I don't

29:31

know we got very close right didn't

29:33

we get very close with Clinton under the Asara

29:35

fat we got very close

29:37

yes our effort was on the plane in order to sign

29:39

the deal he received 96% of everything that

29:42

he got me landed in DC and decided to

29:44

end Camp David and said I'm not fighting so

29:47

when you look historically at

29:49

what happened with Israelis and passing and again I

29:52

am I come from

29:52

a liberal household like a very progressive

29:55

household actually right right so

29:58

when you look at the history of this

29:59

And you see how many times Israel

30:02

offered a Palestinian state

30:04

and how many times it was rejected. And

30:07

you realize that the Palestinians, as a

30:09

national movement,

30:10

have practiced rejectionism.

30:12

And you kind of go, well, what do they

30:14

want then?

30:16

And you go, oh, well, here's the

30:18

thing.

30:19

If the Palestinian is a national movement, first

30:21

of all, it needs to be called out to be a bit more responsible.

30:24

That's number one. And number two,

30:26

if the Palestinians would have actually

30:28

been interested in the two-state solution, I'm sure that

30:30

conversation could have been had.

30:31

Is it a specific piece of land that

30:34

they are refusing? Is the two-state solution,

30:36

is it just that they don't want Israel to

30:38

exist? Is that the whole?

30:39

I'm not saying they, because

30:41

it's not everyone. It's

30:43

a certain sect of people. But if you

30:45

say, from the river to the sea, Palestine

30:47

will be free. Then it means no Israel. That means

30:50

exterminating and ethnically cleansing the

30:52

Jews from their ancestral land, from the Jordan River

30:55

to the Mediterranean Sea. And we saw what

30:57

that looks like. That looks like bloodshed

30:59

at the program.

30:59

Exactly. The program. Yeah, no, for

31:02

sure. Israel right now preparing

31:04

a ground incursion

31:06

into Gaza, potentially. Thomas

31:09

Friedman, writer at the New York Times, other people

31:11

who are traditionally, historically pro-Israel

31:14

feel like it might be a trap. It might

31:16

be a quagmire. It's similar to

31:18

Iraq. It's a very densely populated urban warfare.

31:24

What is the endgame there? I think there's

31:26

something about 8,000 or 10,000 Palestinian civilians

31:28

supposedly have been killed, according to the ministry

31:31

there. I don't know.

31:32

I would say with a grain of salt, and I'll hurt for

31:34

every child who is

31:35

uninvolved. Yes. And we'll say there's a ton

31:37

of innocent Palestinians who've died, just like

31:39

a ton of innocent Israelis who've died. Don't argue

31:41

that.

31:42

It's horrible, by the way. But again, the difference

31:45

is the intentionality of breaking

31:47

into people's homes and slaughtering

31:49

and mutilating

31:50

them to collateral damage of war, which is horrible.

31:55

But when you are flattening and leveling the whole sections

31:58

of a city, you are aware also

31:59

kill civilians. I mean this is true.

32:02

Listen, nobody

32:03

is for war. And again, Iran,

32:08

by

32:09

training Hamas the way that they did and arming

32:11

them and paying them and protecting you know creating

32:13

this entire kind of entity, has basically

32:16

sacrificed Gaza. Because this operation

32:19

everybody that's involved that

32:22

planned

32:22

it and executed that

32:24

knew the price that Gaza is

32:26

going to pay. There is no other choice. And by the

32:28

way, when 9-11 happened, we didn't know

32:31

where the

32:31

terrorists were. And we

32:33

know where they are now. We've made a lot of mistakes since

32:36

9-11. And I think there's a lot of

32:38

advocates of Israel that say they wouldn't

32:40

want Israel to go down the same path that the

32:42

United States went down where

32:44

we got into unwinnable wars, spent trillions of

32:46

dollars,

32:46

committed human rights to

32:48

business. We didn't want to be in there.

32:50

We didn't want to be in there. We were like, here you go, here

32:52

are the keys, go build yourself a home. Build

32:54

a state. Does

32:54

any part of this ground offensive

32:57

concern you in terms of the objectives

33:00

and what the reality of it is and what

33:02

would be considered a victory? It

33:04

concerns me very much also from personal

33:06

level, on a personal level because I know people

33:08

who will be

33:11

operating this ethereal

33:12

ground operation. So

33:13

I'm very personally invested in it. There

33:16

is no other option other than to

33:19

eliminate Hamas. There

33:21

is just no other option. What does that look like? It's a good

33:23

question. We don't know, but I'm sure the United States

33:25

and Europe and normal countries will have to help

33:28

the Palestinians make good choices for themselves

33:30

too. When Israel tells the Palestinians leave

33:32

this area or evacuate because they

33:34

don't really have anywhere to go, is that

33:36

somewhat disingenuous?

33:37

They do have places to go. Hamas

33:40

doesn't let them go. It's not just horrible.

33:42

Tim, I'm not here to defend war in

33:44

any level.

33:45

These are the questions that people are asking.

33:51

These are the questions that people are asking and these are questions

33:54

that

33:54

I think people are concerned about.

33:57

They're concerned about, does this

33:59

increase the anti-Semitism throughout the world.

34:02

First of all, here's the thing.

34:04

So Israel gave Gaza

34:07

two days

34:08

warning.

34:10

Hamas didn't give Israel two minutes.

34:12

Hamas is a barbaric

34:16

terrorist organization. So we can't

34:18

compare the government.

34:21

We're trying not to. We don't want to get into that moral

34:23

equivalence. Hamas,

34:26

there is no moral equivalence there. The

34:28

sad

34:28

part about it, I don't know if you've seen, there are photos

34:31

of Hamas blocking civilian

34:33

cars, not letting them evacuate.

34:35

This is not a good thing, but have you seen the recent

34:38

reports about the Shifa hospital? Okay,

34:40

so that is the hospital that claimed it in

34:42

the Israeli missile handboard,

34:45

an air strike. There are two stories about the

34:47

hospital, about two

34:48

different hospitals. Hospital number one is the air strike

34:50

that happened last week, that

34:53

immediately there was a push notification on every

34:55

news magazine. Israel bombed the house

34:57

and 500 people died within a second. Of

34:59

course, we're all like, oh my God, Israel does not

35:02

fucking bomb hospitals. And then you look

35:04

back and you realize it was a miss failed, a mis-launched

35:07

rocket of Islamic Jihad that landed in a parking

35:09

garage. And

35:12

BBC still has the tweet that says

35:14

that Israel did it. Still up, right? Well, there

35:16

is. That's number one, but hang on. The other

35:18

thing is that they

35:20

just revealed yesterday that

35:22

Hamas headquarters is located

35:24

underneath the biggest hospital in Gaza.

35:27

Well, then you get right.

35:28

40,000 displaced people are there. And

35:30

there's a Hamas terrorist that they interrogated

35:33

that's speaking that all the visuals are

35:35

online of saying, yeah, we place

35:37

our headquarters underneath hospitals and clinics

35:39

because we know Israel is not going to bomb

35:41

there.

35:42

Yes, that's what they do. But Israel, I imagine,

35:45

has had to bomb schools and hospitals. Never

35:47

bomb

35:47

schools and hospitals. Never? Never

35:50

bomb schools.

35:50

I mean, I believe you, but

35:52

I had Barry Weiss on the show and we have to bomb schools.

35:55

We

35:55

have to bomb when they're clean and clear.

35:58

Israel is never going to bomb a hospital when they're...

35:59

people there. Right. So we make sure

36:02

they're headquartered.

36:03

It's a big problem. Sure. It's a big

36:05

problem. And here's the thing. Israel

36:08

never started a war. Right. Hamas

36:10

always broke cease fires. Israel

36:13

always had to win a war because the only

36:16

one Jewish state like that's the reality. Israel

36:18

wants peace. I know it's hard for people to understand

36:21

because they're like Israel is a big bad wolf. But

36:23

like, I don't think it's

36:24

people that think Israel is a big bad wolf. I think people

36:26

are looking at the situation and going,

36:29

what happened to Israel was terrible. What happened

36:31

on 9-11 was terrible. United

36:33

States after 9-11 went out and

36:35

did a lot of things that probably made

36:38

us less safe. We went to the wrong country. Certainly

36:40

in the short term. Yeah, we went to the wrong countries.

36:43

And hurt our credibility worldwide. Sure. Guantanamo

36:45

Bay, these underground torture prisons, you

36:49

know, not following the Geneva Conventions,

36:52

these unilateral wars that enriched,

36:55

you know, maybe defense contractors but didn't

36:57

make, sent a wave of refugees

36:59

throughout Europe. Sure. He stabilized

37:01

the political situation in Europe.

37:03

All of that kind of starting after 9-11.

37:06

I think there's a concern that Israel in its

37:08

very understandable

37:10

anger in

37:13

this situation could end

37:15

up doing things that are unwise. 100%. Yeah.

37:18

The difference is

37:20

we didn't know where the terrorists

37:22

are coming from. Right. And here, we

37:24

know exactly where they're at.

37:25

What does a post-Hamasq Gaza look

37:27

like?

37:28

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Singapore is lovely because the cane does work,

41:30

because you need a little something. You do. You

41:32

need a little

41:33

something. I hope they turn

41:35

Palestine into a flourishing country,

41:38

side by side, safely with Israel.

41:40

Saudi Arabia and Israel were about to normalize

41:42

relations. Very close, I mean, yeah. This was a big

41:44

plan for MBS, the new Middle East,

41:47

the birthplace of Islam, recognizing Israel's

41:49

right to exist. Do you think that Hamas

41:52

chose to act when they did to destroy

41:54

that plan?

41:55

Yes, I think Iran did.

41:57

Iran and Saudi

41:58

Arabia don't really get along.

41:59

don't. Sunnis and Shiites, they're big,

42:02

they're arch enemies, bigger enemies than Israel. So

42:04

they're using Hamas. So Iran is basically

42:06

using Hamas. Hamas is also Sunni, right?

42:08

So they're using Hamas. They're sacrificing

42:11

Hamas in order to start a war with Israel. So the Sunni

42:13

population in Saudi Arabia would be like, whoa,

42:15

whoa, no, no, no, no, we don't want peace

42:16

with Israel. It's very important. This bond

42:19

between Saudi Arabia, Israel, the United States

42:22

is very

42:22

important in order to alienate Iran

42:24

and Russia and all the bad actors in the world, right?

42:27

Well, yes, but I also believe that kind

42:29

of can play a very constructive role in this.

42:31

Will they, though? I believe they could. Of

42:34

course they could. But I believe that,

42:36

listen, we could say bad actors and good actors.

42:38

And I would agree with you probably on some of those

42:40

things for sure. But I also

42:42

think that we have to in

42:44

order to avoid a larger war and

42:47

more bloodshed, we have to

42:49

enfranchise countries like

42:51

China to play a productive

42:54

role. Hopefully, all for it. You know,

42:57

I think China would want to. My godson

42:59

is Chinese. And although

43:01

he has choice words about Taiwan, he's three.

43:04

But he still, I think, can

43:06

play a constructive role. You

43:08

living in California, you live in a multi ethnic

43:12

place. I live in a multi ethnic place.

43:16

You come in contact with people from all over the

43:18

world. Do you have very

43:21

interesting discussions, debates? I

43:23

mean, very interesting about

43:25

this. Look, it's

43:27

right now. You are now

43:28

you have become the focal

43:31

point of this

43:33

campaign as somebody

43:36

who's an advocate for Israel in the media. And

43:39

I imagine that there are people that

43:41

not working for the Israeli government by in any

43:43

way. No, you're just you're not with them.

43:45

This is your homeland. It's what it's

43:48

who you

43:49

identify with your Israeli person. It's not just

43:51

that it's that Israel is the only

43:53

country in the region that that shares our values

43:55

for real. It's the only true ally that we

43:57

have over there. It's the stabilizer.

43:59

for sure, but America has backed Saudi

44:02

Arabia and they have never shared our values and America's

44:05

been very cozy with them. So

44:07

Iran also was going to be a progressive country

44:09

before the coup that was sponsored by

44:11

the British government, the American government

44:14

and their intelligence agencies. A lot of mistakes were made in the country. A

44:16

lot of mistakes were made, so I agree with you.

44:19

I think there's a lot of backwards

44:22

countries in the Middle East that are

44:25

incredibly oppressive. And unfortunately,

44:27

if you look back at the history of

44:30

who propped up some of those leaders, it

44:32

does lead back.

44:33

Of course. Let me just say one word about Saudi

44:35

Arabia and just some people that I know that have been there

44:37

recently. Yeah. The

44:39

MBS is trying. One thousand percent. Actually trying. And

44:42

people say that it's palatable on the street, that you see

44:44

a difference. Yeah, I'm

44:45

hopeful. I'm a big fan of Saudi

44:47

Arabia. Again, I live in Beverly Hills. They never had

44:49

a VAX mandate or a mask mandate. I

44:52

felt like it was living

44:54

in a place that was

44:57

really cool. And I'm a big

44:59

fan of that kind of Persian

45:01

aesthetic of being not that you

45:03

know, Saudis are Persians, but like that kind

45:05

of very loud

45:06

for the Persian Arab. I

45:09

told as though I'll just Bentley.

45:10

You know what I mean? I

45:12

believe in that. That's the culture I believe in. I'm

45:14

going to buy Trevor Noah's Rolls Royce. Hopefully I believe

45:16

in their culture. I believe in that culture

45:19

of not only having it, but showing

45:21

it.

45:22

Dude, I drive a Prius. I'm like literally.

45:24

I know. Well, I mean, what are you producing?

45:26

What are you producing? Intrigue man? Of

45:29

course you drive a Prius. What, you're mentally ill?

45:32

But so, let me ask

45:34

you, Hollywood now, they got dueling

45:37

letters and no one's asking me to

45:39

sign either one. I'll get you on the right one. Can

45:41

someone get me on a letter here? I'll get you on the right

45:43

one. Well, you got one group of celebrities

45:45

going, hey, ceasefire. You got one group of celebrities going,

45:48

hey,

45:48

release the hostages.

45:49

Release the hostages. Let's talk about

45:51

the hostages. I agree with you. Let's

45:53

do it. Now we know over 230 men, women, children.

45:58

There are 30. children

46:01

under the age of 16,

46:03

including a nine months old, a four

46:05

years old, a 12 years old, a 16 years

46:08

old, that were taken from their homes,

46:10

taken from their parents, their parents shot in front of

46:12

their faces and taken into

46:15

Gaza. This is, this is,

46:17

it's unheard of and Hamas needs to

46:20

release them immediately. Now there's,

46:22

there is a letter that

46:25

was signed by

46:27

the biggest names in Hollywood, like Katy

46:30

Perry and Justin Timberlake and Madonna and, and

46:33

Orlando Bloom and Gwyneth

46:34

Paltrow and Chris Rock and a lot

46:37

of people, Gal Gadot and Amy Schumer and a

46:40

lot of people, Jared Seinfeld and

46:42

Tiffany Hadish, Hadish,

46:44

and I can continue on

46:45

and on. Hadish, I love

46:47

this. Tiffany Hadish,

46:50

oh boy. She's a parent, she's Jewish. Lovely.

46:53

Great. Signed,

46:54

Calling on the Release of

46:56

the Hostages.

46:58

We purposefully did not call for a ceasefire

47:01

because you cannot expect

47:03

Israel,

47:04

three weeks after the greatest slaughter of

47:07

Jewish people since the Holocaust, to

47:09

all of a sudden go, no no no no, stop

47:11

stop now. Right, right. You cannot call

47:13

for it. Calling for it, it's like literally when

47:16

America went after ISIS, we all agree

47:18

that

47:19

the world is a safer place because ISIS isn't in power

47:21

anymore, right? ISIS hasn't taken over like hospitals

47:24

and schools and in various places around

47:26

the Arab world, right?

47:27

Not slaughtering, beheading journalists.

47:31

Right. But nobody was standing with a stopwatch with

47:33

America and going, when are you done? Okay, ceasefire

47:36

now. Nobody. That's

47:38

understood.

47:38

No calling for a ceasefire, Israel needs to

47:40

be able to do whatever the fuck it needs to in order

47:42

to- The ceasefire I think, solved it. I

47:44

think what the ceasefire is. Yeah.

47:47

Is people looking at what could,

47:50

what they consider humanitarian catastrophe

47:52

and- No, a lot of the people that were

47:55

on that letter. Yeah, well they have no idea. The publicist

47:57

is going-

47:57

Not just that. A lot of the people on that

47:59

Let her have they have an idea

48:02

okay, and those are people that we know their names

48:04

and they sign on to every

48:06

anti-israel Shit that's out

48:08

there. Okay, so we love her like oh of course. She's on

48:10

it. Oh of course. He's on it Yeah, right

48:12

like we know all these people are it's not in like

48:14

naming names It's just that I've been in the this

48:16

work for a long time And I'm kind of like yeah

48:18

mark ruffalo is always gonna fucking be on the wrong

48:20

side of history here always because he doesn't end It

48:22

literally doesn't understand the region

48:23

well so but can't and

48:26

I don't know mark ruffalo at all And I'm sure I disagree with him

48:28

on a lot of things.

48:29

I'm sure I would

48:31

You know can't like

48:32

I'm not naming names, but mark ruffalo I

48:34

don't know if he signed on that letter, but

48:36

I'm sure is there space

48:39

For someone to go. I believe Israel has a right

48:41

to defend itself and

48:43

I believe Israel has a right to exist but

48:46

I feel like

48:49

the military operation in Gaza

48:52

Will get to a point where a casualty

48:55

numbers will reach such a level that

48:58

it will not only

48:59

hurt

49:00

the ultimate cause because it

49:03

will start turning Western

49:05

countries against Israel because they'll go there

49:07

are so many casualties now and such

49:09

a humanitarian situation and refugees

49:12

pouring into other countries is

49:14

there a room for that person who goes I'm I'm

49:18

curious. I'm cautious about the

49:20

course of action that is cautious about

49:22

the course of action

49:24

I'm the one that wants a humanitarian aid

49:26

and not like people

49:27

that aren't hurt and I get hurt more

49:30

Have you

49:32

seen what they're doing with the water pipes

49:33

you're making missiles, thank

49:36

you right, but they're

49:37

pulling the water I'm

49:40

crazy, but look it up. Yeah, you knew

49:42

this Tim just knew this They pull

49:45

out the water pipes from the from the ground

49:47

Yeah, the water pipes that's supposed to bring

49:49

water to their people and they turn

49:51

them into rockets,

49:52

right? But did they know the two million

49:54

civilians that are being deprived of water? That

49:56

is a huge sticking point for critics of

49:59

Israel going the election electricity, the internet, the water.

50:02

Absolutely.

50:02

Why didn't they build their own water system, by

50:04

the way? Do I know

50:06

the, I don't know these things? I'm just

50:08

saying that this right now is a disaster

50:11

that's demonstrated. I'm trying to figure

50:13

out who's them pick. I don't know why. I don't even

50:15

understand that. My friends, it looks better,

50:17

but now like a little bit of an old witch. Here's

50:20

what I'm saying. When you, when...

50:23

This is again, this is again

50:25

a war that Israel

50:26

didn't want. Right.

50:28

It's just... It's

50:32

just I

50:32

think the people that are concerned or concerned

50:34

about this, civilians, and the way that they should be concerned

50:36

about the hostages, I said if you're

50:38

calling for a ceasefire,

50:40

you should also be calling for the release of all hostages.

50:43

All of them. I 100% agree with you. I'm

50:45

wearing a dog tag

50:46

if you want it.

50:47

It says bring them home now. I 100%

50:50

agree with, I don't really wear jewelry, but I

50:52

agree with the sentiment. But I 110% think all hostages

50:54

should be released. Absolutely.

50:58

It's just heartbreaking. And they're doing

51:00

this psychological war in which they're releasing

51:02

two here and one there, and it's a fucking

51:04

disaster. It really is, and everybody

51:06

needs to call for that. Is Benjamin Netanyahu...

51:10

Has this hurt him politically? Has this helped

51:12

him? Is this neutral?

51:14

Well, it certainly didn't help him.

51:16

He's the man in charge. The bottom

51:18

line is this. I

51:20

don't think it's the time to talk politics right now. Right.

51:24

I've read between the lines of my work in the

51:26

past 20 years exactly what I think of

51:29

where my policies are, more or less. It's

51:31

not the time.

51:32

He is in charge and was in charge for the last 15

51:35

or so years. Yeah. So

51:37

it's always the responsibility of the CEO at the end of the day. Yeah.

51:40

But it's not the time right now to discuss

51:42

this, and I'm sure these conversations are to be had

51:44

after Israel gets it. Sure. People

51:47

that say that Israel doesn't have a right to exist are

51:49

not,

51:50

in my mind, serious people,

51:53

but I do know that there's a lot of them. Watch

51:55

the comments that you're going to be getting. Oh, I'll

51:57

get a lot. You're going to get so much hate and you're

51:59

going to get so much hate. I'll get a lot free Palestine.

52:01

We have Israel. We have Hezbollah

52:04

is coming fabulous. So we have all we

52:06

have everybody That's great. No, but I

52:09

I will say listen my next guess right

52:12

my my hot mash all I Don't

52:14

huh, right now. What about Qatar?

52:17

That's interesting You know Qatar is this kind

52:19

of you know Somewhat westernized country

52:21

that's like go and give us a World Cup do this do that

52:24

and Hamas is living there in the four seasons

52:25

so I prefer Haniya

52:28

is my laniya and and and

52:30

Khalid mash are living in Doha than living

52:33

in Tehran

52:33

honestly Okay, because

52:35

there's somewhat probably a

52:37

couple of other eyes on them there rather

52:39

than in Tehran They'll just be lost in fuck-noseware,

52:42

right? I think the Qatar's role

52:44

is going to be very interesting obviously Qatar

52:46

has been extremely involved in Releasing

52:49

the four hostages that were released up until now

52:52

and I can only say that I hope

52:54

they play an even bigger role. I hope

52:58

that The brutality

53:01

of this attack shocked a lot of people

53:03

in the Arab world as well I know that to be

53:06

to be the case because

53:08

I see the reports and I hope

53:10

this realigns the region in a way that's

53:13

a prosperous and better for the citizens of the region

53:15

and Qatar has a big Role to play here.

53:17

What is the solution? Do you think

53:19

and I mean this is asking you to maybe predict a future

53:22

but

53:23

How do we move towards a situation in

53:25

Israel with the Palestinians where

53:27

I?

53:29

would like some

53:30

responsible Palestinian leadership because

53:32

the Palestinian leadership as a national

53:34

movement You just figure

53:36

out what it is that they want

53:37

and what it is that they're after They

53:39

need to unite is my mood a boss still involved.

53:41

My mood about this involved. He's the head of the PA He's

53:44

completing a 16

53:45

year term of a four-year term

53:47

of sentence. No

53:49

of being in power, right? There's been no elections

53:53

So he elected for four years term and is

53:55

completing his 16th year, but

53:58

he is the more moderate

53:59

other than being Holocaust and I every

54:02

now and then, and saying something stupid about the Holocaust,

54:05

they, the Palestinian people,

54:07

as a national movement. So what did

54:09

you say about the Holocaust? It didn't happen? Yeah, yeah,

54:11

as a whole thing. He had a thesis

54:13

about the whole thing. Okay. But they

54:16

need to figure out what it is that they want. And I

54:18

would like to see the American left and

54:20

American progressives, instead

54:23

of engaging

54:23

in stupid

54:25

virtue signaling, on online

54:27

stupid virtue signaling activism, and

54:30

bashing Israel. How about holding the Palestinians

54:32

accountable too? Because

54:33

they think that I'm such a great social

54:36

justice warrior. And I go, Israel's

54:38

terrible.

54:39

Well, yeah, they don't care about social

54:41

justice. They seem to care about power. You know, women are

54:44

being raped. You're not hearing about

54:46

that. You know, you're not hearing about the heinous

54:48

crimes that Hamas committed. It's

54:50

literally cutting babies' heads is not as bad as

54:53

cutting Gaza's internet. Like

54:58

people are up in arms about the internet being cut up. Like

55:00

there were babies that were being cut

55:02

in half. Right. I think what people

55:04

are saying is, if you cut off water

55:07

and you cut off electricity and you cut off the internet, you

55:09

have a situation where you're going to have, you know, I

55:12

understand. Tens of thousands of

55:13

people die. It's horrific, but you have to understand.

55:16

Israel is not responsible for the citizens of

55:18

Gaza. Hamas is responsible

55:20

for the citizens of

55:20

Gaza. Right, but Israel is taking certain

55:22

steps to, you know.

55:24

I don't know exactly where we're at right now. Israel

55:26

is always trying

55:27

to have as little amount of casualties as

55:29

possible. And Hamas is trying to have as many of them as possible. I

55:33

understand that people might look at it and

55:35

think of me as some mouthpiece of Israeli government.

55:38

Look me up and know that it's not the case.

55:41

But I'm just saying there's right or wrong

55:43

in the world. And Israel and the Jewish people

55:45

have a right for a tiny state.

55:47

What, in closing, and I do appreciate you

55:50

kind of coming on and letting this out, because I do think that there's a lot of

55:52

people that don't

55:55

have a full understanding of,

55:58

you know, what's going on. And they're just hearing it. Snatchers

56:00

from this part one and

56:02

especially when social media is flooded number

56:04

one because we're again

56:06

0.1 8% or zero listen

56:09

it just seems a lot of people that think

56:11

about Gaza and they go these people

56:13

are living in a hell. Yep, and

56:15

There

56:16

are Israeli guards on the

56:18

you know on standing there with guns Yeah,

56:21

there have been instances of young

56:23

Palestinians being killed,

56:24

you know, why they're guys

56:26

Because again, I'm gonna say this again because that's

56:28

historical Like that's what happened

56:31

in 2005 Israel unilaterally pulled out of Gaza

56:34

handed the keys over to the Palestinians Hamas

56:36

took over Gaza and a coup d'etat killed

56:39

the Palestinians people passing literally threw

56:41

them off the rooftops and dragged like tied them In

56:43

the cars and drove them through the streets took

56:45

over Gaza

56:46

killed the Palestinian Authority people and basically

56:49

has been holding Gazan prisoners

56:51

ever since so free Gaza indeed

56:54

free Gaza from Hamas. It's a terrorist

56:56

organization It's the Taliban says if you're saying I support

56:59

Afghan people then I support the Taliban

57:02

then

57:03

like I

57:03

nation those groups those most people

57:06

that are

57:07

critical of You know outside

57:10

of the people that are just openly anti-Semitic

57:12

There are a lot of them there's elected leaders in America

57:15

that are that only anti-Semitic, right? And

57:18

anti everybody anti white men anti

57:20

this anti that anti everything and they're

57:23

very vocal about it. Everything is, you know But

57:26

there are people that are what's true

57:28

if it

57:29

is I'm just laughing because you find you

57:31

know today with how Communications

57:34

work you find a lot of the

57:35

same people that when people have

57:37

been saying hey these colleges are getting a little crazy A lot

57:39

of the liberals that are

57:41

now calling that out

57:44

had ignored it for you That everybody was

57:46

overstating it and it was the right for their

57:48

opinion and dramatic right to speak

57:51

and

57:51

I'm like yeah But they're not speaking they're calling

57:53

for a massacre. There are people that are

57:55

genuinely anti-Semitic There are people that say

57:57

there is not not

57:59

a justification

57:59

for the attack. But there is

58:02

a context

58:04

with what we can put

58:07

all of these things into. It's an

58:09

excuse, it's not context, please. Hamas is

58:11

not looking. It's not

58:13

Hamas, per se. It's that you have

58:15

this thing. If I could

58:18

think of a place to grow terrorists, it

58:20

would be Gaza. If I could design

58:22

a place where terrorists would become terrorists,

58:24

it would be a place like Gaza. Is that not true?

58:27

That's because they took

58:29

over by force. Literally, they have been controlling

58:32

that place. They're not interested

58:34

in the lives of Palestinian people. I don't know what's

58:36

hard to understand here. They're

58:39

just not.

58:39

But the fact that they

58:42

are occupying this small sliver of

58:44

power...

58:44

By the way, that's the way to put it. Hamas

58:47

is occupying Gaza. Israel is not occupying

58:49

Gaza.

58:50

Right, but Israel is enforcing the

58:52

blockade and preventing a lot of things from getting into Gaza. And

58:54

it has for a long time. And

58:58

Egypt as well, because they're terrorists.

59:01

So the blockade that Israel put on Gaza

59:05

periodically is always put on by Egypt as well. So

59:08

nobody talks about that. Mr. Pilgrim,

59:10

Mr. Pilgrim, trapped in

59:12

gray, where will

59:14

you be on Thanksgiving

59:17

Day?

59:17

On November 17th, someone's

59:19

out for revenge. A

59:22

new holiday legend comes

59:25

to that table. Anybody will be in an

59:28

American holiday! Thank

59:33

you, Pilgrim! I'm just kidding.

59:35

Exclusively in movie theaters November 17th,

59:37

this film was

59:38

not yet rated.

59:38

That there was a blockade of both these countries,

59:41

one Arab, one Jewish, kind of going Hamas

59:43

is fucked and we need to contain them. And we can't

59:45

let them just get cement because they're building tunnels.

59:48

We can't just let them get gasoline

59:51

because they're stockpiling it. They're

59:54

taking the shit from their people in order

59:56

to fire it. Isn't it curious for people that... Hamas

1:00:00

is literally the Gaza's running out of everything

1:00:02

except rockets. Well, that's, yeah. They

1:00:05

keep throwing, there was an attack on Tel

1:00:07

Aviv today. This is the other thing that you have

1:00:09

to understand. The war didn't just, this

1:00:11

thing didn't just happen on October 7th and ended.

1:00:14

It wasn't one day. There were eight terrorists

1:00:16

that were caught yesterday trying to get in through the ocean.

1:00:18

There were four that were trying to get through the north. And

1:00:21

there are rockets that are being launched

1:00:23

at Israel all the time.

1:00:25

You also have Hezbollah and Lebanon as well.

1:00:26

Yes. I'm talking to my sister

1:00:29

and she's like, oh shit, siren. I'm

1:00:31

like, oh my God, she's in Tel Aviv.

1:00:33

So this is ongoing. They haven't stopped. Right. But

1:00:36

people are going to see Israel. No, no, no, no, no, Israel, cease

1:00:38

fire, stop. Israel, please stop. And

1:00:40

by now we're like, we can't

1:00:42

listen to what Israel can do no right. Okay.

1:00:45

People are always going to have a problem with it. And by now it's like, we just

1:00:48

better fucking do what we need to do because

1:00:50

they're

1:00:51

going to say shit anyways.

1:00:53

I'm just hoping that this

1:00:56

has as an end game and

1:00:59

a, and a, you know what I mean? Because

1:01:01

I'm speaking from experience of being a citizen of a country

1:01:03

that went on a very

1:01:05

long, you know, very

1:01:08

convoluted path after 9 11. And

1:01:11

it, we ended up sending a lot of money. I

1:01:13

don't think we made anyone safer

1:01:14

after 9 11. I was like, you know,

1:01:17

young and all that. But as an Israeli, I was

1:01:19

watching the US going into

1:01:20

Iraq. And I'm like, okay,

1:01:24

we knew that Iran is the

1:01:26

destabilizing

1:01:28

entity in the region.

1:01:29

You look back at every shit that's

1:01:31

happening in the world, every terrorist, every, everything

1:01:33

it's all, it all leads back to Iran.

1:01:35

How did the Mossad miss the

1:01:38

this attack? Oh God,

1:01:40

there's, there was, there

1:01:41

was so many, one of the best intelligence

1:01:43

agencies in the world.

1:01:44

There was some, the side isn't external though. The side

1:01:46

is not

1:01:47

technically, look, there was so many, the

1:01:49

CIA,

1:01:49

actually external. We all know

1:01:51

technically ever, everything's external.

1:01:53

There was, how did the American miss it? How did

1:01:55

everybody miss this? It was, there was a major

1:01:58

meltdown. I don't know.

1:01:59

You know the Americans have the human

1:02:02

intelligence on the ground that Masaad

1:02:04

does. We have great satellites, we know

1:02:06

that.

1:02:07

We know now, we're

1:02:10

starting to break down backwards

1:02:12

the moves that they did and they

1:02:15

were, look again, really good effort. Good

1:02:18

effort Hamas. You're not winning this one either,

1:02:20

but good effort.

1:02:21

Right, no, nobody wants Hamas to win except AOC. She

1:02:27

does. Did

1:02:30

you see my face, how I

1:02:31

didn't move? Yeah, of course. Try

1:02:33

Ilhan Omar, see what my face does. No, I mean,

1:02:35

listen, they don't seem to love the

1:02:37

Jews. I mean, that's just what it is, you

1:02:39

know? I mean, that doesn't, but she also, AOC,

1:02:42

she, you got to respect the ones that come

1:02:44

her down and say AOC like pretending to be Jewish ones,

1:02:46

which I don't have a respect for. She's like, I'm like,

1:02:48

I started doing it up. I did a thing about it years ago.

1:02:51

I just come out and say what you believe.

1:02:53

That's what I respect about you. I

1:02:55

respect that about what Schumer is doing. Again,

1:02:58

I'm a Long Island guy, Catholic.

1:03:01

Didn't grow up with this around the dinner table. This

1:03:04

was not discussed. We heard about it, but

1:03:07

we didn't have an intimate involvement.

1:03:09

I had friends that went on birthright. I have friends that are

1:03:11

more well versed in it. I

1:03:13

know there's a lot of Muslim comedians that are talking

1:03:16

about it. I know that there's a lot of Jewish

1:03:18

comedians that are talking about it. I know that it's split

1:03:20

a lot of people and it's been a very contentious

1:03:23

thing.

1:03:24

If you support

1:03:26

democracy, freedom of speech, human rights, women's

1:03:28

rights, LGBTQ plus

1:03:29

rights, any kind of rights that we hold dear and you do not

1:03:31

support Israel within the context of the Middle

1:03:33

East, you're a fucking idiot.

1:03:34

I think you should support Israel within the context of

1:03:36

the Middle East, but I also think you should support

1:03:40

the idea that we need

1:03:42

to eventually bring an end

1:03:44

to the suffering and

1:03:46

the death of innocent people. We need

1:03:49

to somehow figure out some type of self-determination

1:03:51

for Palestinians. One hundred percent. And a life

1:03:54

for them outside of God, which is a training

1:03:57

camp that grows extremism and

1:03:59

terrorism.

1:03:59

I'm pro-Israeli and also pro-Palestinian,

1:04:02

and these two things are not mutually exclusive.

1:04:04

It's only on the American fringes

1:04:07

that it's presented as mutually exclusive.

1:04:09

By the way,

1:04:11

almost all of these towns in Kibbutzim

1:04:13

on the south and the party, the Nova Party,

1:04:15

the slaughter at the party, all these people are

1:04:17

peace activists, pacifists, left wing.

1:04:20

There was an old lady that was in charge of flying

1:04:22

kites. Every, you know, on

1:04:25

the 7th of October at 4 p.m., they had this

1:04:27

thing that they all got together and flew kites into Gaza

1:04:30

to show them how much they loved them. Like, all

1:04:32

these people are like the lefties,

1:04:34

and they're now hostages and were slaughtered

1:04:37

in Gaza. So I'm all for that. Again,

1:04:39

Palestinian

1:04:39

people need to be a little

1:04:41

bit more responsible and acknowledge that Israel is there

1:04:44

in Israel's dentistry and stop trying to slaughter

1:04:46

the Jews because it ain't

1:04:46

going to work. All right. Well, Noa Tishby, where

1:04:49

can people follow you and get

1:04:51

this information? All

1:04:53

social medias. And my best one,

1:04:55

biggest one, is the one that I'm most active on

1:04:57

is Instagram at Noa Tishby. And my book is

1:04:59

available wherever.

1:05:00

Okay. Hopefully we will be back on

1:05:02

Instagram. We will suspend

1:05:05

it temporarily if you're doing a video saying that Pizza Hut supported

1:05:07

Hamas.

1:05:10

Noa, did I? Well, no, it

1:05:12

was just... Wait. I'm not a big

1:05:15

Pizza fan anyways. Write them down. Get that.

1:05:17

Put Pizza Hut on the list. Thank

1:05:19

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