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buys tons of dragon shields because

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Dragon Shield sleeves are awesome.

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Dude, people also be complaining about the, like,

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the sides of the dragon shields, how

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they're, like you know, some sometimes have, like, these, like,

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little markings. And, like, they're

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there, but I I've used Dragon Shields

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to have those same markings, and I've I've never

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had any issues with it. Like, it's such a

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small thing. I don't know why People

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make a big deal out of it.

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Yeah. You know, 1 1 thing that is not Frequently

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discussed. But, Mike, you can validate that that

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you do this because I know we do this, and I know

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I feel like everyone we know does this.

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Like, If you sleeve a deck and you

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have not both shuffled the sleeves and

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shuffled your deck before you sleeve it up, you're,

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like, kinda doing it wrong. So the idea

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that, like, you get a weird miscut

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thing where, like, all your Ultra Balls end up,

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like, with the same, like, weird sleeve corner

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or something, that should never happen.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. So you're you're you're saying sleeve

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it up in a in a random order. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Like, if you if you sort your deck and

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then just, like, sleeve it top to bottom, Like,

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you're you don't understand how to play the game.

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Right? Like, that is part of the exercise of,

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like, making sure nobody thinks that

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you've marked your cards or anything. And,

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like so so, hey. If

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that's a PSA for people, an absolute news flash,

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then I'm, you know, glad I could help. It's an

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incredible service we offer

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Yeah. That's a good call out because it's, like,

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something that is just so

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obvious to me that I

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Yeah. You

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even think to really say

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thing to talk about.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. True.

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Speaking of things to talk about, let's go Ryan

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Antonucci. Knoxville and Melbourne

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this weekend. 2

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relatively small tournaments, but bigger than tournaments

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we have coming up prior to Vancouver, I think.

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Liam, Mike, what what do you guys gotta say about

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Melbourne and Knoxville?

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I mean, the first thing that you Said.

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Big shout out to Ryan. Ryan's a

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a Philly local. Known him for a while.

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You guys have probably known him a bit for

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a while as well. Great player.

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stuff. He's awesome.

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Yeah. I don't think he I think this is his first

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regional win. He's made some top eights

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before he top aided And I see

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once for sure. But

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Ryan's really good, and he's been he's been

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pretty much just playing Garde since

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At least since worlds he might have played

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at n NAIC as well. I don't know.

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But he's just been grinding Garde. He won 4

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cups around here with Garde. And,

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like, I've talked to him a bunch. He understands the

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deck. He understands the matchup. So

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he finally had his Run

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hot tournament. To see.

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He's such a chill dude to play against as well.

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Like, round we played I talked about this on the

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pod before, but we played round 1 of worlds.

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And it was so chill. Like, he he wasn't cutting

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my deck. He was like,

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I I don't think we ended up having any,

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like, take back stuff, but I'm sure, like,

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if 1 of us asked to, like, take something

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back, we would have been okay with it. Like,

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I don't know. Ryan's just a really, really

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chill dude to play. So

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it's really cool to to see him do so well.

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Yeah. Absolute, homie. And how

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how it sounds like you guys have talked

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about the Garde deck a ton. Because

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that was not the only guardie

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shout out for for Mike over the course

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of this past weekend.

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Yeah. So Natalie,

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Natalie Miller also said yeah.

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Friend of the pod.

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Friend of the pod got top

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4 at Melbourne regionals

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with Gardevoir, and a bunch of their

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friends played it as well.

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little testing group or

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Yeah. Like,

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Kaiwan testing

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Kaiwin, Christian Hassebani.

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I don't know Max Prescott, but I've heard

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the name a little bit. So they all played it.

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They did pretty well. It was a couple cards

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off what Arjun and I played In

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Charlotte, the the main, like, call out

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is the third reversal energy. They continued

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to play that, changed a couple other cards, No

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VIPs. So that's pretty sweet to see.

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I'm glad we we got to inspire

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them and to do well. Natalie

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did message me after Charlotte, and we talked

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about the list a a little bit. So

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happy to happy to give some give some

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help there For sure.

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So, basically, I'm gonna give us credit

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for winning 2 regionals this weekend.

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Yeah. The the trash land's

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basically won

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Yeah. Mike Mike picked up, like, 800

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CP this weekend. It's an incredible weekend. A

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hell of a run for a guy that is taking some

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time off.

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I wonder if when Nucci gets to 600

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points, I wonder if he can just gift me

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his second invite.

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Oh, man. There you go. There

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you go.

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While we're talking about Gardy, Gardy had a good weekend

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overall. 2 top eights In Melbourne,

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2 top eights in Knoxville.

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Ryan getting first, Raymond Long

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making top 8, and then I

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don't know exactly know how to say this name, but

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Gitano Pisani also making

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top 8 in Melbourne. So pretty good weekend for

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Gardi. A lot also in kind

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of the the top 16, top 32,

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general day 2. I think already

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had the highest like, the best conversion

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rate from day 1 to day 2

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in Knoxville at least. Not the most popular

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day 1 or day 2, but really good conversion

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rate. So maybe that kinda is a good

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starting point for talking about just

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the meta game and how it shifted a

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little bit. Like, why did Garde Do

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so well this weekend. Liam,

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what you got?

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They got blessed. I

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God bless.

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Dude, it was like like, 40 percent of the

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meta was like Zard and Moon, bro. Like yeah.

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I don't know. And then there are obviously a

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lot of good players playing it. Lot of

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high rolling happening. Some good matchups

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because Moon was 20 percent of day 2.

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And, like, we we've always known that the deck

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is good, So good players are playing it.

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Medi game was good for it. Deck's good. Good

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results

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Did you watch Ryan versus Ian

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in top 4?

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I wish a little bit of that came.

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Dude, there was I think game 2

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was I was just cracking up, like, the whole

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game because both of

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them, every single turn, if you could

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imagine the best possible thing

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that they could do, they were hitting it.

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Like, every single turn. Like,

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Ian Ian went first, got a

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turn 3

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usually wins in those situations.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's the the Yeah. Yeah.

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Ian did win that game. Like,

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Ian went first. Maybe only got 2

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cards in the lost zone, but then got a turn 3 Sableye.

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And then Ryan had 1

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card in hand going into his turn or,

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like, 1 card plus his draw. And then

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just, like, hits 2 energy off

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his arcana, so he doesn't need to hit a path

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bump. He hits he hits a iono

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off the off, Like, a couple cards. Like, it

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was just so insane. Just like

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back and forth, like, hitting the nuts. It

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energy are kinda hit.

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Yep. Like, it was so

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it was so funny because, like, you know, Ryan

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draws the 2 with Arcana, just kinda looks

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at them, And, like, gives

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the look gives the look like, alright.

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I guess. Like,

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sounds good. Yeah.

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So Ryan definitely definitely had some

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fortunate luck in the finals as well. Aiden

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made a really big mistake where

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He attacked with his Pidgeot v

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and well, first of all,

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sucks that Aiden had to attack with Pidgeot v.

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But Second of all, he

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thought that the attack did 80

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plus 80 if there's a stadium card in

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play, but it does 80 plus 80 if you

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have a stadium card in play. So Ryan

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had a stadium in play. They did the

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1 60. Ryan started his turn.

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They did a couple things, and then they realized so

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they were able to rewind the game state

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back, but he got a double prize penalty

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in a game he probably was gonna

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win. So definitely some plot armor

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there.

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It's insane.

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Yep.

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crazy. That's crazy.

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Yeah. And that's a that's a pretty tough matchup

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for for Ryan. Lost

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box with mobile

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mobile.

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I think it was just 1 mall out,

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Yeah. 1 Mawile. But 3 super

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odds, I mean. You got unlimited

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access to Maw Wiles. Right?

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Yeah. And Ryan didn't play a turo,

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So he basically couldn't play Manaphy

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or Jirachi or Radiant

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Greninja the entire set.

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And Ryan's, like, starts weren't

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that great, but they were really

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good specifically for that

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matchup. Like, he started Zashi in both games,

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which is, like, typically not great. Right?

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But, like, really

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good when

9:36

get, like, your best starter. Right? And

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right. Right. Right. Right. Exactly.

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Like, really good for for that matchup in

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particular, and Aiden wasn't able to

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just get the quick dragon eye either game.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, really, really interesting really

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interesting games on stream for sure.

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While we're talking about the the lost box, my

9:57

wild deck, that is the deck that Azul

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and company, uh, played

10:01

as well. Their list was a little bit different.

10:04

They played also played

10:06

1 mile while, but they played an echoing

10:08

horn to, like, really get people.

10:10

And they didn't play any bosses order. They just played

10:13

2 counter catchers. So

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and I know I know, Liam, you watched the

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Azul's game on stream. Right? His

10:22

When in May being

10:23

Yeah. Yeah. I think I I watched a good

10:26

chunk of that.

10:27

yeah.

10:29

Yeah. I I know he said in the the interview

10:31

after, he he didn't wanna play the deck,

10:34

But but crank out to make the call. So

10:38

Yeah. Yeah.

10:39

yep.

10:40

It's kinda cool. That game was really that

10:42

game was really interesting. The ending

10:44

of

10:45

To the the cayoga rib was

10:48

was super unlucky. I know we

10:50

were talking about how there there was maybe something he

10:52

could've done to to make it a little better, but

10:55

I'm I'm also not completely sure.

10:58

Yeah. Maybe he'll go back and

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Avad review his own game because

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even just that 1 turn was super,

11:04

super complex.

11:06

Yeah.

11:07

So, yeah, it was pretty cool. So

11:09

that deck, the kind of the lost box my wild deck

11:12

is, I

11:14

don't know. That's kind of like a standout for me from

11:16

this weekend. Like, doing pretty well. It

11:19

seems like a

11:21

pretty strong deck overall.

11:22

that looks pretty cool. If Gardy's at Turo,

11:24

though, it should be really bad. Right?

11:27

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

11:31

What was crazy to me was I felt like

11:33

like it seemed like Lost Box

11:35

was kind of everywhere, and

11:37

there were a lot of different builds.

11:39

Mhmm.

11:41

yeah. I mean, Aiden Aiden played that. Azul

11:43

played, as you said, a slightly different list. Eleventh

11:46

place Michael Ginchero Played

11:49

the Radiant Charizard build. And

11:51

the Piper Lapine, top

11:53

30 two'd with an iron hands. So

11:55

was that

11:56

Yeah. I've never played, like, a really weird

11:58

box.

11:58

She played, like, the super effective

12:00

super effective boxes.

12:02

And then Dean's right behind Piper

12:04

with just kinda like a a Rory Moon

12:07

Hands deck. And that also got top

12:09

8 in Melbourne.

12:11

Right. Right. He played the exact same list as Tim Franklin

12:14

who got fifth at Melbourne.

12:15

Yeah. Well, I think Tim played the same

12:17

exact list as Dean from Charlotte. then

12:21

and then Dean also played the same list

12:23

here.

12:25

Yeah. Like, it just seemed like there was a lot

12:27

of, Like, lost box decks

12:29

instead of people playing like Tina. And,

12:33

uh, that's that's like, I

12:35

mean, it just goes show it's a strong

12:37

engine. You can do whatever you want.

12:39

Yeah. And Kyogre is

12:42

kinda back a little bit. I think,

12:44

like, maybe a big part of that as well

12:47

is, As Liam said,

12:49

Roaring Moon had a really huge weekend.

12:52

Second most played deck in day 1,

12:54

most played deck in day 2. Kyogre

12:57

is very good against Rory Moon.

12:59

People see Ross, and they just wanna be him.

13:03

Ross. Yep. Yep. Speaking of that, Ross's

13:06

60 got how many

13:08

more entries on limitless? 1,

13:11

2, 3, 4, 5. 5 more.

13:14

1 of the top 8 roaring moons was his exact

13:16

60, Kamal Crooks.

13:18

I I think it's pretty crazy that, like,

13:21

people arrived at, like, I

13:23

I guess, like, the optimal Roaring Moon

13:25

60 so fast because, like, so

13:28

many people ran it and and did super well

13:30

with, like, Absolutely 0 change.

13:33

And it's it's been, like, 2 tournaments

13:36

since, like, Ross, like, brought out the idea

13:38

of Like, full research or whatever.

13:40

Mhmm. And there's lots of

13:42

people that did well that, you

13:44

know, maybe it's not the exact 60, but it's

13:46

really close. Right? The other the

13:48

other top 8 list cut 4 cards

13:51

for 4 Pokemon catcher. JW

13:54

Coming in tenth, I think is 2 cards off

13:56

Ross's list. He put in 2 counter cat

13:58

or 2 Pokemon catcher for

14:00

for 2 other cards. So,

14:03

yeah, it's pretty

14:04

Yeah.

14:05

interesting.

14:06

There was a lot of other weird stuff too.

14:09

Top top 8 Iron Valiant.

14:13

Yeah.

14:15

I mean, is that is that catching people

14:17

off guard, or is that just absolutely high

14:19

rolling the whole

14:19

Yeah. I I saw that stream game against

14:22

Moon, and that matchup looks like it's, like,

14:24

heavily, heavily favored. Because,

14:27

I mean, you basically just throw the the Moltres

14:29

and the Radiance Art at them, like, every turn.

14:32

Mhmm.

14:34

Yeah. Anything with radiance are should really

14:36

stop moon, probably.

14:38

Right.

14:38

And And he played

14:40

a spiritomb as well. And spiritomb is

14:43

really good against Roaring Moon.

14:45

Yes.

14:46

And that's a kind of a good talking

14:49

point too. Both of the Giratinas that made

14:51

Tapia in Knoxville both played Spiritomb.

14:54

So I know Bradner had

14:56

played it at

14:58

Charlotte. And we it's kind of been

15:00

like in and out of Tina Decks over time.

15:03

But I think now that Roaring

15:05

Moon is such a prevalent deck, like,

15:07

Spiritomb, I think, is probably a staple in

15:09

Giratina, and it should see some

15:11

play in Some other decks as

15:13

well, like, is really good against Rhoyne

15:16

Moon. And it's really it's obviously

15:18

very good against Mew. So

15:21

And then in Melbourne in top

15:23

8, there was a Archeops deck.

15:25

that on our deck.

15:28

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

15:31

They were unlucky enough to play against

15:33

Natalie in top 8, which

15:36

Seems like an very unfavored

15:39

matchup when she has 3 reversal

15:41

energy.

15:42

mean, I I would assume that there's lots

15:44

That's all the Guardian players would say, but,

15:47

you know, Pretty adamant that

15:49

Aldegard is, like, really good matchups that

15:51

involve hitting an Arcana on 4. Even

15:53

if she plays for reversal, we're not

15:55

that good Because, you

15:57

know, weird stuff just happens. And that's

15:59

that's why Guardian is always so hard to play.

16:02

You, like, have to somehow navigate,

16:04

like, you know, you missed your, like, fifth psychic energy

16:06

on turn 3, and, like,

16:08

you don't know what to do anymore. And you have to somehow

16:11

not lose. And you're only

16:13

getting 1 game and it, like, let's

16:15

just ah, Garde.

16:18

Garde.

16:19

The the other thing that I recognize, Caden couldn't

16:22

make it today, guys. It's it's just Mike and Liam

16:24

and I. But FKaden, we're here.

16:26

Chen Pao. was

16:29

a chin pow.

16:31

frightening amount of Baxcalibur that seemed

16:33

like was okay.

16:36

To admit.

16:36

I don't know. There's 1 there was a a sixteenth.

16:39

Jared Grimes played it. Regan

16:41

Ratzlaff played it. Lucas

16:44

Singh played it. Man,

16:47

Yeah, dude. It's all the teams who are, like

16:49

you know, we already know they're really

16:51

good players, and they have, like, Good placements.

16:54

I'm like

16:55

I mean, are are are the Gardevoir stand?

16:57

like they're winning in front of it. Like

17:00

like

17:01

it to a 50 eighth place. Like, there's a lot of

17:04

Chen Pao in day 2.

17:05

Yeah. I mean, the there was there was a lot of, like,

17:07

you know, they go 6 2 1 against, like,

17:09

the the day 1 players, and then They

17:11

go, like, 3 3 in day 2. And, like,

17:14

4 2 in day 2. And these are, like,

17:16

really, really good players. So you

17:19

know? And, like, everybody knows

17:21

that's not bad, but seems like a pretty pretty

17:23

average deck when you look at it like that. Like,

17:25

good players have, like, solid placements

17:27

with it.

17:28

I mean, all all those guys outperformed all of

17:30

the Cluff and then go players in day 2.

17:33

Yeah.

17:35

Not saying much. 1

17:38

interesting thing about Gimpao is we are seeing

17:40

more and more of a split between

17:43

people playing iron hands and not playing

17:45

iron hands. Lucas and Regan

17:47

both decided to just play

17:49

the straight waters. Jared and

17:51

Kieran played the iron hands.

17:54

So I think it's still

17:56

up for debate which which

17:58

version is better. Maybe they're just about the same.

18:01

But I was talking to Bradner a little bit

18:03

this weekend, and I

18:06

think we we agreed that we

18:08

we think that the iron hands

18:10

version is worse. So, like,

18:12

optimal might be to just play waters, but

18:15

it's just an an optimal deck, so

18:17

who cares?

18:20

Sucks. Oh the the other big news

18:22

to come out of this weekend is if you haven't

18:24

already seen on Twitter yet, Jared Grimes

18:27

got absolutely baked by Grant

18:29

Shen. She goes to her account.

18:31

The the post is hilarious. Yeah.

18:35

Grand Grand Chen's got some good stuff. The the

18:37

Nucci cuts are also Quite

18:39

I do. And Grayson's

18:41

a funny guy,

18:43

Yep.

18:43

So so next weekend there

18:46

this coming weekend Is the Dortmund

18:48

regionals in Germany or

18:51

Denmark or something? No. Germany.

18:54

You're right.

18:55

Any advice for all of the, uh,

18:58

people who are flying from Melbourne to Dortmund,

19:00

I guess, or Knoxville

19:03

to Dortmund.

19:04

well, 1 thing we should say, Uh,

19:08

1 other, like, general thing is

19:10

Charizard did really bad in

19:12

Knoxville. There was Zaya

19:15

got twelfth, and then there's not

19:17

another 1 until 30 third. And

19:20

then there's a handful in top 64,

19:22

and then, like, a bunch of them

19:25

are at the bottom of d

19:26

Yeah. This is the the Liam, you

19:28

know they they showed up at day 2 with the wrong

19:30

deck and got blown off the board. Right?

19:33

Yeah. I guess so. Like, Tina and Garde

19:35

were both pretty big. The Roaring Moon matchup

19:37

is, like, It's not

19:39

bad. It's not great. It's, like, pretty 50

19:41

50. If you're not playing Radiant

19:43

Zard, then it's definitely worse. So,

19:47

yeah, I don't know. The matchups maybe just weren't

19:49

very good.

19:50

I I think Azul was, like, carrying the

19:52

the deck to its only placements to keep it relevant

19:55

for, for, like, the last few months or whatever, however

19:57

long. He's not doing that anymore. Deck's

20:00

falling off. It's terrible.

20:02

The in in

20:03

is so insane. Like, comes

20:06

in at 6 2 1 every time and still delete

20:08

top 8 is brew. In the top paper, you bubbled

20:11

out. You got Ignite, I think. Right? Yeah.

20:14

Like, I

20:16

The

20:16

know when the data environment is crazy.

20:18

In in Melbourne there

20:20

was 2 Charizards that did well both by the

20:22

Japanese players, Haru and Kito.

20:26

Kato is just like I don't know, man.

20:29

His he's played 4 events

20:32

in in the west this year. He's gotten tenth,

20:34

eighth, seventh, and ninth. I

20:36

don't know about that. That seems a little sketch

20:38

to me. But but

20:42

I mean, if he's if he's doing it legit,

20:44

that's cool.

20:46

Wow. That that went

20:48

that went different than I expected it to. Wow.

20:51

Yes, sir.

20:52

I mean, I don't know. Like like, if you

20:54

have 4 major events in there and you're getting

20:56

top 10 in all 4, that's like that's

20:58

kinda nuts. Right? Like, All these top

21:00

players that do really well, like Azul, like,

21:03

he's done super well, but he's played in,

21:05

you know, double the amount events that he's

21:08

Top tended. So, like,

21:10

there's that's some variance right there.

21:12

I don't know. We'll see.

21:14

personal testimony.

21:16

Sure. And then you look at you look at the other

21:18

Japanese guy, Haru. He's done really well

21:20

as well, but he's played

21:22

in a bunch of events, a bunch of Western

21:24

events over the the past year, and

21:26

he has 2 really good finishes, 2

21:29

seconds. But then, like, you know,

21:32

6 64 is 1 28, whatever.

21:34

So this seems more reasonable to me.

21:37

May maybe har maybe Haru showing up to

21:39

some other events that he just didn't even date to, and they're

21:41

not on here. I don't know. We'll

21:46

leave it at that.

21:47

we go. There we go. So so Dortmund

21:49

Regional's advice, guys. Should

21:52

they play Guardie? Should they play Lostbox?

21:54

Should they play Roaring Moon?

21:57

I think if you play guardi

21:58

is, bro. It's all

21:59

Yeah. Yeah. It's all

22:01

I mean, it's see, it's I feel like when we look at the

22:03

the results week over week, there's no, like,

22:05

oh, here's the strats. Here's the strats. It's like,

22:07

bro. Because,

22:08

be a good be Azul and play a good deck.

22:11

Yeah. Like, If if there

22:13

was something that was, like, really, really

22:15

good and just, like, you know, beat the entire format,

22:17

like, people would have played it by now.

22:19

Like, you know? So,

22:22

Yeah.

22:23

like, you know, all the all the lists have

22:25

gotten to a point where, like, they're not

22:27

bad. They're they're competitive with the rest of the meta.

22:30

And So now you have

22:32

a whole meta of lists

22:34

that are good. So just pick 1 and play it. And

22:36

if you play it well, probably do well. Almost

22:39

to it.

22:40

I think if I was, like, playing in EU,

22:42

I would a hundred and 50 percent

22:45

be playing Spiritomb in Almost

22:47

any deck that I was bringing,

22:49

like,

22:49

I'd just play a hard counter to me. I'd I'd do something

22:52

like like like, even a harder counter

22:54

because, like, you know, I think people do that, and

22:56

they just, like, plot armor their way through

22:58

the spirit room every time, like,

23:00

clearly, because you

23:02

Right. Right. Spiritomb is not enough to just

23:04

destroy it.

23:05

Numbers aside, they just always win.

23:08

But but I mean, I guess I guess what I'm saying

23:11

is, like, yeah, it it's it's Mew

23:13

in the EU, so big reason. But also

23:15

Roaring Moon, like,

23:16

Yeah. Yeah. Spirit seems just really good right now. It

23:19

It's it's obviously best it's ever

23:21

been, because it's not

23:23

just 1, but 2 minute accident absolutely

23:25

cobbers.

23:26

Yeah. Like, I would even consider running it

23:29

in Garde. And both of those matchups are already

23:31

the like, you and Roarin'Mid are already

23:33

good matchups, but, like, you're Pushing

23:36

your good

23:37

Now the guardy effect, you know,

23:39

1 bad whiff. So, you know,

23:41

I need a spirit team to get back into the game.

23:43

Mhmm.

23:45

Here, I I feel like Liam was Liam was trying

23:47

to tweet really hard to enrage people

23:49

today. And I think Liam has a strategy

23:51

where he's like, I like to unleash my

23:53

spicy tweets during lunch when I'm at

23:55

school. So then, like and then, like,

23:57

3 hours later, he's like, oh my god. People are still

24:00

tweeting about this. People are insane. You

24:02

know, that was a tweet I wrote in 30 seconds between

24:04

classes. But, yeah, I you were

24:06

you were, like, trying to explain to

24:08

people Teching for matchups versus

24:11

consistency. And

24:13

I felt like you were all over the place. But

24:15

I recognize that's a tweet written 30 seconds

24:17

in a hallway.

24:19

Yeah, man. That like,

24:23

Do people just love their text? Like, because

24:26

a lot of the innovations at this point, it's

24:28

not even like, you know, They add

24:30

some, like, random super super

24:32

awesome card. Right? Instead, it's like

24:34

an innovation. Like, wait. Screen

24:36

tail is not actually that good. I can

24:38

save a spot by doing that and play more consistency,

24:40

and now my deck's better than yours. Like

24:43

and then, like, you know, you just get all

24:46

these, like, random players. Like, Dude,

24:48

I can't win a game without using screen time.

24:51

And it's like, you know, like,

24:55

We have a few weeks before the or, like,

24:57

we have 2 months before the next NA regional.

24:59

Like, we should just try to learn our deck

25:01

and and learn how to win games without screen

25:03

tail. Like, You you like,

25:05

learning to live without cards is, like, something

25:08

that can be really hard to do, but, like so,

25:10

like, you know, if it's, like, the night before tournament, can

25:13

obviously be hard to make a cut like that. But, like,

25:15

when you have time to prepare and you see, like, a

25:17

top player get, like, top 16 without screen

25:19

tail, it's, like, Probably a sign that

25:21

that card's just just not that good.

25:24

Or, like, you you you can obviously

25:26

do well without it. So, like, You

25:29

know? As opposed to, like because,

25:31

you know, you you already know that there's gonna be

25:33

a bunch of people who still, like, force screen tails into

25:35

their decks. And, like, that might not be the worst decision,

25:37

but, like, Constantly, you see

25:39

bad players just, like, literally put everything

25:42

into their deck. Like, you know, somehow

25:45

You're, like, fitting what? Turo,

25:47

Crest, and Screentail and,

25:49

like, you know, just all this random junk, and you, like,

25:51

look over at the item cards, and they're playing, like, 3

25:54

VIP, 3 level ball, and then they're like,

25:56

ah, I bricked my way out of the tournament. The dead

25:58

draws got me in round 9. It's like 2.

26:00

Like, Of course. Of

26:02

course. Look at the deck. But

26:05

you know?

26:07

But but you're ready to cut consistency for Spiritomb.

26:09

I just wanna be I just wanna be clear. Just wanna be

26:11

clear.

26:12

I and exactly,

26:14

man. Because pea people just, like you

26:16

know, their their instant reaction every time they dead

26:18

draw is that, like, the bad luck got them or something,

26:21

bro. But, like, your dead draws are, like,

26:23

literally part of your control. Like, you control every

26:25

single card that you see every game. You choose

26:27

the 60. And then you see the 60, and

26:29

you're like, oh my god. My hand sucks.

26:31

Like, what? You

26:34

just make your deck better, bro. So you draw better cards.

26:36

And then, like, Sometimes there's an anomaly. Like,

26:38

if you play, like, 10 cards that you don't like to see

26:40

on turn 1, you somehow see 7 of them. Like,

26:42

you can just accept that's an anomaly. But, like,

26:45

When you accept that, it's so much easier to, like,

26:47

move on, and then it doesn't happen the rest

26:49

of your, like, 15 rounds as opposed to,

26:51

like, these people are like, dude, I bricked, like, 10

26:53

times over the course of, like, 9 rounds.

26:55

It's like obviously, your deck has issues

26:57

if you're breaking that often. Like, It's

27:00

either that or you're, like, a 1 in a million tournament

27:02

run. It's just

27:05

You know, it it the good news, Mike,

27:07

is that he's very consistent. Like, he's

27:09

he's both he he here he is.

27:11

You control the outcomes. There's no randomness in

27:13

the game. And he's also like, prizes should only

27:15

be for the winner. Right?

27:17

Yep. That's true.

27:20

So so I like at least it's, like, internally

27:22

consistent, the whole thing. Yeah.

27:25

You're right

27:25

That is

27:26

Right. The the dead draw complaining is, like, the

27:28

absolutely most insane thing I've ever seen, Rope.

27:30

Like because you could

27:32

you control all the cards you see, bro. Like,

27:35

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I knew like, I knew when I

27:37

was playing no VIP in Charlotte, there was, like,

27:39

a decent chance that I would

27:41

have some games where I drew poorly.

27:43

Like, that that was just something that, like, I

27:45

accepted going in. Right?

27:48

Mhmm.

27:49

Alright. So last question before we

27:51

go back to the set review for temporal

27:53

forces. I

27:56

haven't heard or maybe I just haven't been

27:58

paying enough attention to, like, the grumblings

28:00

and the rumblings, but I recognize so

28:02

we got Dortmund coming up next week,

28:05

And then we have Utrecht

28:07

3 weeks after that. And then

28:09

we have the Goania

28:12

in Brazil a week after that.

28:14

And then 2 weeks later, we have Vancouver. In

28:17

my mind, I I don't know. Is

28:19

is Dortmund, like, quote a real regional, or is that gonna

28:21

be a small, like, Knoxville sized regional,

28:23

quote, unquote?

28:25

I don't know. That's a good question.

28:27

I mean, if it's Knoxville size, that's big

28:30

for EU. So

28:32

Yeah. Yeah. So I so I I feel like where we're

28:34

going is there's gonna be, like,

28:36

3 kind of smaller tournaments,

28:39

like A regional in twos a

28:42

a regional in Brazil, Dortmund regional,

28:45

and a special event. How

28:47

many North American players are gonna go

28:49

to those tournaments and try to farm

28:51

points?

28:53

Around 8. 1 of them is pokeydools.

28:56

The other 7 are competing for the top

28:58

16 race right

28:59

But but it is top 16 worth it

29:01

these days? Like, are I I feel like I haven't

29:03

They're going anyway. They're going anyway.

29:06

heard people saying, oh my god. A top 16

29:08

grind. It's so horrible this year because they took out all

29:10

the incentive to, like, top 16 at some level.

29:13

Right. It's just like it's the stipends to

29:15

the ICs.

29:16

Yeah. It's it's

29:16

That's, like, the big prize.

29:18

Yeah. Well, that you could you can fly

29:20

to Europe and Brazil Still, if you wanna get a

29:22

free trip to Europe.

29:24

Right.

29:25

Yeah.

29:27

They've they've figured us out, guys.

29:29

Yep. I do know there was a handful

29:32

of Americans that went to Melbourne this weekend.

29:34

Like, Gabe Smart got top 16. Camp

29:37

Shenoy was there. I know

29:39

to Melbourne is such a cheat code, bro. That's

29:41

what Cam was saying. He was like, oh, dude.

29:43

I bombed out, but, like, I still

29:45

got more championship points than some people

29:47

in, like, US regional day twos.

29:49

Yep. True.

29:52

But but it it is definitely not the same as

29:54

the OCIC cheat

29:57

Yeah. I mean, that was insane.

30:00

The OCIC cheat code was like, do you like

30:02

getting your invite? You can come get your

30:04

invite here. We're just giving them away, kids.

30:06

Like and it was, like, 400 points last year, and

30:08

you get, like, a hundred points for doing nothing

30:10

at OCIC.

30:11

For sure

30:12

Yeah. Like, that

30:13

I look forward to you. I see that.

30:15

It was like, go to League Cups and OCIC.

30:18

Get your invite. It's amazing. Alright,

30:22

guys. Vancouver's after that. Vancouver

30:24

is a long way away. We're, like, 6 weeks

30:26

from

30:28

Like, 2 months. Right?

30:30

2 months?

30:31

It's, like, at the end of March.

30:33

It's a long way away.

30:35

7 weeks. Yeah.

30:36

Yeah. And and that and

30:38

then the week after that, temporal forces

30:41

or temporal forces legal when is temporal yeah.

30:44

Commercial forces is legal at EUSC.

30:46

Right?

30:47

the week after that is EUI or 2 weeks

30:49

after that is EUIC, and temporal forces will

30:51

be illegal. Let's let's

30:53

talk about the trainers in the temporal forces,

30:55

guys. This is the return that

30:57

so, obviously, where we should start is

31:00

Ace specs are back. But

31:03

not the same ace specs, so we can't pull

31:05

out our, like, old school super warped

31:07

cards and be, like, flexing on people.

31:11

Yeah. So let's start let's just start with and do

31:13

all the ace specs. So Prime

31:16

catcher. By now, everyone's heard of prime catcher.

31:18

It's Guzma on an item. You

31:20

gust and you switch. That's kind of the

31:22

the bar that every ace pack has

31:24

to be compared

31:26

to at this point. Because if you can't

31:28

make a good case for pay playing another

31:30

1, then you should just play that.

31:32

Yeah. And and it's worth saying if God forbid you

31:34

you did not play during the ace spec era, you

31:36

get 1 ace spec in your deck. It's

31:39

like the radiant cards. Right?

31:42

Yep. So we have,

31:45

Let's start with the worst 1 is

31:47

probably Master Ball.

31:49

Master Ball is the only 1 that is

31:52

is a reprint indeed. Search your deck for

31:54

any Pokemon. Put it into your hand.

31:56

It's not terrible, but it's not Prime Catcher.

31:59

I mean, I don't even know if I have I have an 1

32:01

of

32:01

I think if PrimeCare wasn't a thing,

32:04

I'd I'd actually like Master Ball

32:06

and, like, try to put it in something because

32:08

compared to the other aspects, it's, like, Not

32:10

actually that bad. It's like it's a good card

32:12

to draw, but prime catcher's

32:16

too

32:17

what what do you think is worse than master

32:19

ball?

32:21

Worse than Master Ball. We could start

32:23

with a reboot bot in any deck that's not playing

32:25

future Pokemon.

32:26

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's obviously, there's a couple

32:28

that are designed for specific kinds of decks.

32:30

Yeah. Like, I don't know. Like, maximum

32:32

belt, I probably wouldn't play over master ball

32:34

in some random deck. Hero's cape,

32:37

I wouldn't play. The energy. Like,

32:40

Master Ball is, like, the the most general

32:42

ace spec, Obviously, of the

32:44

of the mall except for Prime Catcher,

32:46

Yeah. That's true.

32:47

which, you know, completely outclasses

32:49

Yeah. Yeah. But the moral story is

32:51

Prime Catcher exists. Prime Catcher is completely

32:54

disgusting. It's amazing card.

32:56

The

32:59

You you anytime you're thinking about putting Master

33:01

Ball in your deck, you should put Prime Catcher in your deck.

33:04

It's play the good cards. Play the good

33:06

cards.

33:07

So some of the other ones that Liam

33:09

just mentioned, maximum belt It's kinda

33:12

like a choice spell type of card, but you

33:14

do 50 more damage to

33:16

your opponent's active e

33:18

x. So they're not counting v's,

33:20

only e x Pokemon. Has

33:23

seen a little bit of play in

33:26

Japan so far. I think this card is

33:30

I I I I'm not sure

33:32

if it, Like, is ever

33:34

better than prime catcher, but, like, the

33:37

math does help some

33:39

decks more than others for sure. Like, for example,

33:42

Guiratina doing what'd you say?

33:44

50 is a ton.

33:46

50 is a ton. Like, Guiratina

33:48

can now lost impact for 3 30, Which

33:51

means

33:51

a meaningful mod.

33:53

Yeah. Right. So if your deck If

33:55

the math works out for your deck, like, this could be

33:57

worth playing for sure.

33:59

Then that does 80. It's a

34:01

lot.

34:01

Okay. But you're definitely playing hero's

34:03

cape in Banette. So hero's

34:05

cape is a plus 100

34:08

HP tool card.

34:10

Yeah. I mean, that that's the Bennett card. Right?

34:13

No. It's PrimeKestar.

34:18

It's so true, though. Prime catcher

34:20

too good.

34:21

Yeah.

34:23

Yeah.

34:23

about actually biggest issues is, like stuff

34:26

on the bench. Like, you wanna play.

34:28

At least right now, because you wanna play fog crystals, so maybe

34:30

this is different after rotation. But you

34:33

wanna play fog crystals. You wanna play routes for Kirlia.

34:35

It's the best draw engine. And then

34:38

you have, like, this guy who says on the bench that they

34:41

embossed to break the lock. So

34:43

you have to play a switch effect, which ends up being,

34:45

like, a really sucky card, but

34:47

you have to play it, which is on principle.

34:49

So you get to play the broken card.

34:51

Yeah. Exactly. Prime picture

34:53

is

34:53

You know, 1 of the other janky decks I wanted to talk

34:55

about was Melbourne, I think was it

34:57

eighteenth place, something like that? There was

34:59

a Gardevoir Mewtwo

35:01

v union deck.

35:03

Oh, yeah. Sixteenth. It's like the

35:05

Guardian Reversal deck with YouTube union.

35:08

Like, what can you actually get that out against that it helps?

35:11

Except for, like, mirror on the very last

35:13

turn. And,

35:14

was my reaction to it. I was like, I don't think this

35:17

Makes any match ups better? I'm trying to think of 1.

35:19

Nothing comes to mind.

35:21

Yeah.

35:22

Like, you you go you go to all this trouble, and

35:24

then they're like, dude, I'm playing Tina.

35:26

Yeah.

35:29

Right.

35:29

worse for it's worse for Christina. It's

35:31

worse in against other guardies.

35:33

It's worse against Charizard.

35:35

against a roaring moon. Like like,

35:37

how could it like, what does it do? Yeah.

35:40

But But you could slap a hero's

35:42

cape on there and have just a lot of hit points.

35:45

could have all the hit points.

35:47

I I was talking about this a little bit with Charlie

35:49

Locker earlier today. And

35:51

we came to the conclusion that it was because of

35:54

It was basically they got they got to top

35:56

16 because they're playing 3 reversal

35:58

plus 5 dead cards in their guardian

36:00

list,

36:01

Yep.

36:02

0.4. But, yeah heavy

36:04

reversal was basically, like, all of the upside

36:06

and Maybe it'd act like pretty good,

36:09

but you should just do that without the me too.

36:11

Yeah. The

36:14

last, like, nonspecific

36:17

a, uh, a spec

36:19

is the neo upper energy, which

36:21

is if it's attached to a stage 2,

36:23

It provides 2 rainbow energy.

36:25

It can be attached to other Pokemon as

36:28

well and it provides 1 colorless. This

36:30

card seems really bad. I don't think

36:32

it's gonna see play in almost anything.

36:34

think that card is sick. Like,

36:36

that card is sick. It

36:39

makes more stage twos viable. It's

36:41

a cool card. You're right.

36:43

Crime catcher stuff is gonna obliterate everything

36:45

that runs this card.

36:47

I think this card could be a could not

36:49

be an ace spec, and it would be

36:51

very good, but not too good if

36:53

it was not an

36:54

Dude, stage 2 is, like, probably suck after

36:56

a level wall rotates. So, Yeah.

37:00

Yeah. I mean and I think when we were going through the set,

37:02

there were no new stage twos that we were

37:04

like, oh my god. That's gonna be a thing.

37:07

Right.

37:08

So like like, when you look at the

37:10

existing stage 2 decks, you're like, does it make

37:12

Gardevoir better? No. No. It does not.

37:15

I think if you could play 4, the Feraliator thing

37:17

would be pretty cool. And I'm I'm sure there's a bunch

37:20

of other stage twos.

37:21

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

37:24

So we got the ancient and future a specs.

37:26

The ancient 1 just says draw

37:28

card for each of your ancient Pokemon in play.

37:30

And the future 1 says

37:33

attach a basic energy from

37:35

your discard pile to each of your future Pokemon

37:37

in play. Future

37:41

1 good, ancient 1 bad?

37:43

The ancient 1 seems sick.

37:46

You think? Draw,

37:49

more engine pieces. I love more engine pieces.

37:51

Like, well, like, I

37:53

feel like there's, like, some way you could build some

37:55

sort of, like, Maybe, like, slower

37:58

deck with, like, Regieleki or

38:00

something that recycles trainers, and you basically

38:02

just play this card, like, 6 times a game

38:04

and draw, like, 30 cards. Card's

38:08

sick. But,

38:11

yeah, I don't know if it's it's all that good.

38:13

And definitely seems cool in, like, the ancient decks.

38:15

Like, Whatever the the single

38:17

prize stuff, like, drawing 6 cards when you're,

38:19

like like, a heavy hitting single prize

38:22

deck is, like, really, really good.

38:26

That's true. Like, I think

38:28

the Roi Moon is probably the

38:30

best single prize ancient attacker.

38:33

The karadon is okay. I

38:35

don't know if you have room to play both,

38:39

like, both energy types, basically. Like,

38:41

Roar and Moon takes double dark, which is

38:43

Yeah. I think you just have to build fully for the

38:45

the dark thing if you're gonna go for that.

38:48

Yeah. And so I guess, like, I

38:51

guess, like, even once a game, if you, like, draw

38:53

5 or 6 cards and then you just

38:55

research it away, like, that's

38:57

pretty good.

38:59

Yeah. Yeah. I know. Like,

39:01

that that much draw power is, like, really

39:03

good. Item draw 6

39:06

is, like, definitely a spec

39:08

power in, like, the right spots.

39:11

And then the future 1, attaching a basic

39:13

energy card is like It's

39:17

good, but

39:18

It's corny. It's so corny.

39:21

It's just gonna be for iron hands,

39:22

the only thing that that's good for is the

39:24

new Iron Lee z x.

39:27

It's good for the the iron hands, Ruel.

39:29

Iron hands is a new thing to accelerate to it,

39:31

bruh. Like and whatever.

39:33

The the whole future box. Yeah. The the iron

39:35

leaves Like but the irony sucks.

39:38

So

39:38

the iron the iron leaves has has that has that

39:41

ability. When you switch it to your active, you can

39:43

move energy

39:44

know. But you get all the energy to it, and then you do a

39:46

hundred 80

39:47

Right.

39:48

Pretty bad.

39:49

But you could drop it down and power it up in a

39:51

turn and be like, oh, okay. We did a thing.

39:54

Yeah. Yep.

39:56

That that seems like its primary value.

40:00

Hey. You could put a belt on it and hit for 2 30.

40:03

Yeah.

40:04

Is it a belt? What is it called? I forgot.

40:07

Yeah. The Maximum bill.

40:09

Alright. I'm like, I assume everything's if it does more damage,

40:11

it's a belt. Any

40:12

I mean,

40:13

Or a band. It could be a

40:14

Oh, dude. You can't you can't belt if you're

40:16

playing the The feature

40:18

Oh, yeah. Darn it. What

40:20

we need are 2 ace specs.

40:21

too. I mean, like, it

40:23

it doesn't even matter if you get max value off of

40:25

the iron least thing, like, hitting for you

40:28

go 2 for 2 after you, like, you

40:30

know, invest, like, all of

40:32

your energy into this 1 thing. It's, like,

40:34

pretty mid. I

40:36

know. Oh, like, the XP

40:39

shares and stuff make it maybe better. I have

40:41

no clue. Mhmm.

40:43

bad. I mean, I don't think that's a good deck.

40:45

That's that's all the a specs. Yeah. And

40:48

the rest of trainers. I

40:51

I have the Justin Basil list

40:53

open. So you wanna start at Bianca

40:56

in Saturday? Yeah. Oh,

40:58

wow. That card's amazing.

41:00

What? I was about to say it

41:02

sucks.

41:05

It's full here, bro.

41:06

Yeah. But only if your dude

41:08

has 30 or less HP. Like, if

41:11

your opponent Puts you to 30 or less

41:13

HP, they deserve to get Bianca's

41:15

dude. Like

41:18

You know? Any card that reads heal

41:20

damage from 1 of your Pokemon um, you know,

41:23

has use cases.

41:24

What what what are the ways that you can move your damage

41:26

counters around on your side of the board right now?

41:28

Or or post rotation, I

41:30

No. That's that's very limited. It's

41:32

it's the slow, bro.

41:33

rotates. Right?

41:35

a slow, bro.

41:36

Yeah. Alright.

41:38

I mean, The slow, bro, doesn't matter.

41:40

It it's it's it's very limited in in what

41:42

it moves.

41:43

Oh, that Gengar already rotated.

41:45

Yeah. It does.

41:47

Yeah.

41:48

Yeah. Okay. This Yeah. The card won't

41:50

see a ton of play, but Maybe

41:53

at some point, it'll be really, really

41:55

good in,

41:56

If there's, like if if the

41:58

1 hit KO decks don't exist,

42:00

like Jinpao, Goldengo, Raichu

42:03

V, that type of stuff. Like, if they don't exist,

42:05

then you can probably force some

42:07

deck that had just has a ton

42:10

of HP and, you

42:13

know, you you you just create a deck

42:15

that just can't be 1 shot and maybe,

42:17

like, the math works out that You can get it

42:19

to 30 or something like

42:21

How do they not just, like, 2 hit you, though, by going,

42:23

like, a hundred and then,

42:24

Right.

42:25

you know? But I

42:28

I think you'd have to find some way to, like yeah.

42:31

I don't know. This card's good.

42:33

It it says healable damage. It

42:35

Potential. It has potential.

42:37

some point.

42:38

Yeah. And you don't lose all your energy. Like, the

42:40

the the the the mechanism

42:42

is slightly different than the historical mechanisms. So

42:44

in that way, it's interesting.

42:45

That's like something you can play on, like, Guardi right now.

42:47

And, like, that would suck. You shouldn't play

42:49

this in Guardi if you could. But,

42:52

like, you know, something that can

42:54

self damage or, like, whatever

42:56

to to try and get value out of this card.

42:58

But it's it's it's a strong effect

43:00

if you can make

43:01

Yeah. But that card is not as good as Buddy Poffin,

43:05

which is the next card and is a very good card.

43:08

Buddy popping is very good. So check for up

43:10

to 2 basic Pokemon with 70 HP or

43:12

less and put them right on your bench. This

43:14

is very good. I don't know

43:16

if it's, like, a 4 of

43:18

index.

43:21

Depends on the deck.

43:23

Yeah. But, like, so let let's think about, like, guardian

43:25

charge art. Because those are the

43:26

about lost box. I'll place 4 of those.

43:29

okay. Yeah. Lost box is gonna play 4, For

43:31

sure. But but it only finds it only finds

43:33

Kofi.

43:35

And Manifee and Ditto.

43:38

I guess, yeah, Ditto Ditto does become

43:40

a lot more interesting with this garden format

43:42

for

43:43

Yeah. But

43:46

it has to be a deck that has a lot of switching. So

43:49

Yeah. That's true.

43:51

And and, hey, after that, you can just be lost owning

43:53

it just like VIPs, man.

43:55

Yeah. Exactly. In fact, with a

43:57

lot

43:57

you can yeah. And you can just and

43:59

you can just burn it at random times too, which

44:01

is good. It's just

44:03

like like, it's nice that you can play it past

44:05

turn 1. But, like, past turn 2,

44:07

this is not gonna be a card you play

44:10

that often even, Like,

44:12

in a in a stage 2 deck. Like

44:15

like, you can go super rad and get 2

44:17

dudes back, I guess. Like, that's gonna be the biggest

44:19

use case past turn

44:20

Yeah. No. If you're playing this, you should already be on, like,

44:22

4 or 5 bench, basically, the entire game already.

44:24

So we're not

44:25

Right. Right. It'll just be interesting,

44:27

I guess, like, what the split is between Ness

44:29

Ball and Pathan in the different decks because

44:31

there's probably a split.

44:35

But I like how it seems like

44:36

looks like so sauce, man. For

44:39

ball cards, like and ball

44:41

cards, they do the same thing. Like,

44:43

obviously, there's some you know,

44:45

but, like okay. Okay. So so Charizard. So

44:47

Charizard. Right? Like, Charizard still probably wants

44:49

to play Rotom um, but

44:51

maybe not. I don't know. Maybe they don't now.

44:54

And so, like, What

44:56

do you play? Do you play, like, 3 poffin,

44:58

2 nest balls? I don't know.

45:01

Like, that makes sense. That's probably what it

45:03

comes to, but I you're

45:06

gonna have to give me some some of that

45:08

you know, Veteran logic right

45:10

now. Like, how do you come to a

45:12

split? Like, if 1 card is on

45:15

average, a ball card is on average

45:17

better than another. How do you come

45:19

to a split if you don't play search

45:21

cards like Arvin? And, like, if you do play search

45:23

cards like Arvin, how do you end up on, like, a

45:25

3 3 split? And, like,

45:29

I mean, like, I I I guess you would say that, like,

45:31

having 1 of each in your hand, like, 1 poffin,

45:33

1 nest bowl is, like, optimal, so So you

45:35

end up splitting, but the

45:38

logic seems like really sketch

45:41

Right. Yeah.

45:42

a 3 2 split somehow.

45:44

Well, I mean and you make a you make a good

45:47

point though of, like,

45:50

a deck like Charizard. Do you

45:52

just Switch how you build the deck

45:54

and not play a card like Rotom and just

45:56

go for Poppin then. And then you

45:58

do you just don't worry about playing this ball at all.

46:01

So

46:02

That's something I consider.

46:04

yeah. We do lose mu

46:06

though, and, like, Puffin would be

46:08

significantly better with mu in format.

46:11

But mu is yeah. Mu rotates.

46:15

Mhmm.

46:16

I mean, replacing VIP with Puffin, it

46:18

I think I like the idea because it,

46:20

like, it puts a little more

46:22

emphasis on the viability of stage 2

46:24

Dex versus, like, a deck like Muradin just

46:27

popping off and going crazy.

46:29

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And

46:32

Big, big fan of the

46:32

like, it it just makes it

46:34

more like, even like a deck like Giratina you

46:37

wanna you're probably gonna play Fort Poffin. It's

46:39

just worse than VIP because

46:41

it can't find the Tinas, can't find the Greninja.

46:44

And, like, that's good. Like, it's

46:45

just a healthier card, like, all around.

46:48

The slower decks, smaller stuff.

46:50

and and if you don't find it until turn 2,

46:52

you're not you're not like, oh, it's the end of the game.

46:55

Right. Right. Right.

46:56

the the emphasis on popping off

46:58

Goes down just a little bit.

47:01

Yep.

47:01

obviously, the guy who finds 2 Buddy Poffets

47:03

turn 1 is gonna be doing better than the guy that finds

47:05

0. But, like

47:06

it's the terminal and iron

47:08

Yeah. But if you find them turn 2, like you're

47:10

like, oh, okay. Okay. Let's try and, like,

47:13

stabilize the situation. You know?

47:16

Mhmm.

47:17

So

47:17

Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, your circuit doesn't turn

47:19

off after turn 1. That's pretty cool.

47:21

Yeah.

47:22

Makes like yeah. Being able to get

47:25

back or stay in the game much more likely

47:27

if you didn't have a currency turn 1, which

47:29

is great. Okay. Let's move

47:31

on to the next card. This is another very

47:33

talked about card in The set,

47:35

Cryptomaniacs Deciphering, a reprint

47:37

of Oracle and Mallow. Search

47:39

your deck for 2 cards. Shuffle your deck.

47:41

Put them on top. I've seen

47:44

a lot of people pretty hyped about this, and then I saw

47:46

Mahone's, like, little clip. I

47:48

don't know if you guys saw that. And he was just he

47:50

was destroying

47:51

She's right.

47:52

So you you agree with Mahone? You're on the Mahone

47:54

side?

47:55

I did. After I heard that, like, tell

47:59

me what tell me what you grab off cryptomaniacs

48:01

deciphering after you got turn 1 iron hands, bro.

48:03

Like, you're you're baked. It's

48:06

like the

48:09

card is, like, probably fine. We'll

48:11

see playing some decks, like, Mohammed said.

48:14

But, like, it's it's so

48:16

much harder to run a card like that in a slower

48:18

format, or in a

48:20

faster format

48:21

In a faster

48:22

when we've had those cards in the in the past.

48:24

And, like, I I would assume

48:26

that's what everybody said because the format's always

48:28

speeding up every time about these cards,

48:30

but, like, games just end

48:32

so, so fast. And,

48:36

like, it's it's not a good card to draw

48:38

in turn 1. Like, it's

48:40

it's not a good card to draw in turn 1, like, in

48:42

isolation.

48:43

Yeah. I agree. I think

48:45

I agree for the most part.

48:48

Like, even Zorak just played 1 of

48:50

these usually,

48:52

Yeah.

48:52

As just kinda like a nice card to have

48:54

in the mid game.

48:56

That's also because you could bench tab Leila,

48:58

and it wasn't, you know, like, a huge liability, so you

49:00

could play Leila for it. You bench the minion now,

49:02

and that's, like, the major

49:05

major liability and, like,

49:07

a few decks. So,

49:09

like like, you know, It's already

49:11

benching the Lumenion. I know I know

49:13

the Lumenion enjoyers, of course, will disagree,

49:16

but it's it's pretty

49:18

Well, I mean, you know, everybody accepts.

49:20

The nice thing about Limineon is if

49:22

you really, really, really need a supporter,

49:25

you could get 1.

49:27

Yeah.

49:29

Yeah.

49:29

Alright. I don't think we need to talk about dangerous jungle. We

49:31

talked about dangerous jungle a bunch last

49:34

Fairbank City Gym.

49:35

Furbank. It's a great card. Assuming you're

49:38

poisoning people. The without Hypnotoxic Laser,

49:40

much less awesome. Emergency

49:45

board, this is a very good card.

49:48

Yeah. You talked about this a little bit

49:50

last week, Brent, but it's a tool,

49:53

attach it. Your retreat cost

49:55

is 1 less. And then, randomly,

49:57

if you have 30 HP or less, then you have

49:59

no retreat cost. They they're

50:02

really doing the

50:02

dirty.

50:03

yeah. Yeah. They're really they're really doing the

50:06

maybe there's gonna be some card in a future set

50:08

that, like, puts itself to 30 or something

50:10

like

50:10

Yeah. Yeah. If if the next Roaring Moony

50:12

X's attack is, like, sets the opponent's

50:14

Pokemon at 30 hit points, people would be like, oh

50:16

my god. a

50:19

whole new deck. Here we go.

50:21

the Serena counter, the Serena EX.

50:23

Yeah. This

50:26

card is good

50:28

in lost box.

50:29

Yeah. It

50:31

will see play throughout its lifetime.

50:34

It'll only see plumbing decks that I don't wanna play

50:36

because I fucking hate that

50:38

stuff. The, like, the teeny tiny,

50:41

The coffees, the doraches. I

50:44

don't like it. I

50:46

won't play it probably. Well, like, if I

50:48

do play it, it's gonna be in Some

50:50

weird weird stuff, but

50:53

I do think it's funny. They, you know, they Printed

50:55

float stone. Obviously, float stone, a

50:58

little too broken. Then they printed air

51:00

balloon, which is, like, pretty good.

51:02

But they were still like that's still a little bit

51:04

too good. Let's

51:06

make this a little bored only

51:08

1 less.

51:10

Yeah.

51:11

just wanna make sure that Lostbox was able to

51:13

win worlds. You know?

51:15

Sure. I mean, we have had other

51:17

boards before. Right? A skateboard, that

51:19

was the 1 you could retreat when

51:21

you're asleep and paralyzed. That 1 was

51:23

just, like, good though because

51:25

of Jirachi mostly, like you said. And

51:27

then the u-turn board was same

51:29

thing, but that card wasn't really played

51:31

in in much. So I

51:34

would

51:34

really good comparison. Yeah. If that

51:36

card is kinda trash.

51:38

yeah. I would expect that this card would

51:40

probably see as much play as you

51:42

turn board outside of comfy decks.

51:45

Like comfy decks will probably still play

51:47

1

51:48

I hate comfy, bro. Oh

51:50

my god.

51:52

You know, what

51:53

it'll it'll see like, a little more play

51:55

until Mawile rotates at least something like

51:57

that? Like, just the idea that this

51:59

is a switch effect if you have if you're

52:01

if you're running a deck that has, like, 1 energy

52:04

retreaters. Like, it's a switch effect.

52:07

Sure. You know what card you

52:09

do love, Liam? Aery.

52:12

Yeah. We basically we basically did not do trainers,

52:14

so you could talk about this card,

52:15

Don't even say that because, like, I hate all the

52:18

on Twitter, we're like, oh my god. It's control

52:20

save. It's like, bro. Like,

52:23

you don't have to be corny about it. And then this card is,

52:25

like, probably worse for, like, Slow

52:28

decks than than good.

52:30

Like, of of course, it will be strong, but, like,

52:33

it's just it's such a bad

52:35

card for the game, bro. Like, just a, I

52:37

mean, obviously, if you

52:39

could imagine a world where we could play supporters on

52:41

turn 1, if somebody used

52:44

this card on turn 1, You would probably

52:46

lose the game.

52:47

Probably.

52:48

What if they do this card, like,

52:50

every other turn of the game? It's probably pretty

52:52

bad. Like,

52:56

this card is just, like, way too strong

52:58

hand control, way too strong disruption. It'll

53:00

be abs insanely

53:02

toxic. You know?

53:05

It's like, at some point

53:07

during its time standard,

53:09

my card is terrible, bro. Mike

53:11

got out at a good time. Mhmm. That

53:14

part is disgusting. Absolutely

53:17

in case listeners, in case

53:19

you don't know what Aery is, it's your opponent reveals

53:21

their hand, choose 2 item cards you find there and

53:23

discard them. So yeah.

53:27

This reminds me of, like, I

53:29

never I didn't play competitively during,

53:32

you You know, the very, very, very early days like

53:34

base set. But you hear some horror

53:36

stories of turn 1 lass.

53:38

And lass was like both players

53:41

shuffle all their trainer cards from their hand back in

53:43

their deck. Like, this is kinda reminiscent

53:45

of that. Like, if you're going

53:46

didn't know 1 cube we did at classes.

53:48

yeah. Right.

53:51

Like, uh, I don't know.

53:53

This this could

53:54

I I was thinking about it in terms of delinquent, bro.

53:56

And this card, I think, is better than delinquent, bro.

53:58

So, like, it's

54:00

Yeah. I mean, the 1 to say like,

54:03

at least it doesn't say trainers. Like, it says

54:05

items. Like, if it was trainers in general,

54:07

it'd be

54:07

Game over.

54:08

Yeah. It it'd be, like, the worst card it reprinted.

54:12

Yeah.

54:13

And, like, we're definitely moving away from,

54:15

like, powerful items. It's, like,

54:17

basically just lost box at this point that's actually

54:19

playing, like, utility items. Everything else is just playing

54:21

ball cards for the most part. And,

54:26

like so it's know,

54:28

maybe maybe it won't be, like, too destructive right

54:31

now, but, like, dude,

54:33

it's It's hard to imagine that

54:35

you never ever end up sitting

54:37

on, like, really good items where,

54:40

you know, if they if they get hit, you just lose

54:42

the game. And, like,

54:44

consistency can even be included in that, like,

54:46

you know, random ball cards.

54:49

So, like, I

54:51

think this car will win games, and it will win games

54:53

in a disgusting way. So yeah.

54:57

Yep.

54:58

not be meta dominant for its, like, entire

55:00

entire span, but, yeah, it'll be good at 1

55:02

point or some point.

55:05

Alright. Let's talk about some others. Some of these

55:07

other ones are a little bit faster. So next, we

55:09

got Explorer's Guidance. It's an ancient

55:11

supporter. It's a reprint of

55:14

Hapu. Look at the top 6 cards

55:16

of your deck. Put 2 of them in your hand. Discard the

55:18

other ones. It's Fine.

55:20

It'll be be played in ancient decks

55:22

for sure. I don't know if it'll be played

55:24

in other stuff.

55:26

So I would absolutely buy this card right now.

55:28

It shreds the deck, while

55:31

building hand size a little

55:33

bit, I guess. Like, it lets it lets

55:35

you add to hand

55:36

Better or worse better or worse than colrus

55:38

in a, like, a random deck. You

55:40

better? at anything that's not trying to get lost

55:42

on stuff.

55:43

I mean, obviously, you look at you look at 6 cards.

55:46

But you have to, like, get rid of, quote, unquote,

55:48

an extra card.

55:50

Right?

55:53

It's.

55:54

But, obviously, it goes it goes

55:56

know, like, like, you you just have to live with that

55:58

to get, like, deeper dig. So it's just

56:00

better. And, like, discarding is obviously

56:02

so much better than lost zoning for every deck

56:04

that's not lost zone. So

56:05

true.

56:06

And and the new Roaring Moon,

56:08

like, which is the new Flareon. Like,

56:10

you you can discard ancient cards And

56:13

then keep your dark patches and dark energies

56:15

and do the thing.

56:17

Yeah. I I know this card sees a lot of play

56:19

in those those decks already.

56:20

Yeah. I mean, discarding energy is almost always

56:22

good for, like, 90 percent of the decks in the format. You're

56:24

like, hey. We're look at us. We're doing that thing.

56:28

Yep. Solid. There's a

56:30

metal stadium. Your metal Pokemon all

56:33

metal Pokemon take 30 less from attacks.

56:35

I feel like there's 1 of these cards in format

56:37

at all times.

56:39

Yeah.

56:40

We don't we don't have 1 of those right now. We have a crystal

56:42

cave, which is heal, but this is better.

56:45

This card's

56:45

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Reducing is always better

56:48

than healing.

56:48

Yeah.

56:51

Hand trimmer, another control

56:53

or anti control card, depending on how you look at

56:55

it. Item, each player discards until

56:57

they have 5 cards in their hand.

56:59

This card's filthy. Filthy.

57:02

Do you think it's better in control

57:04

or anti control or maybe about

57:07

the same?

57:08

Probably about the same.

57:12

Yeah. Nothing, like, jumps

57:14

out immediately of this scene play, but

57:16

it'll see play.

57:18

When they when they play the hand trimmer, are you assuming

57:20

that they're gonna play the Yuri right after that? Or

57:23

Or discard all your items, or do you keep

57:25

the items and just high roll it?

57:26

been well. It's

57:29

Heavy baton. Heavy

57:31

baton. Wait. What does

57:33

it say?

57:36

It's a it's the wishful baton, but it only

57:38

works on stuff with 4 or 3.

57:40

Oh, okay. Great. So unplayable.

57:42

Yeah.

57:43

on hands. So

57:45

Works on hands. Does the wishful baton

57:47

rotate? Is that why this is being

57:48

it was rotated, like, 2

57:51

years ago

57:51

Yeah. Dude.

57:53

0, 0, 0, this card. 0, 0,

57:55

0, I was thinking of a different card for some

57:57

reason. Okay. Yeah.

57:59

Yeah. It's thinking of

58:01

XP share or something. But

58:03

it works on iron hands. That's like that's

58:05

it. That's pretty much it.

58:08

Alright.

58:08

sure there's something else that's, like, kinda

58:11

cool for that I'll try out, but it

58:13

will suck. But, you know, Cool

58:16

card.

58:17

We got Morty's conviction, not

58:20

not Morty from Rick and Morty. You

58:22

can you draw a card for each of your opponent's

58:24

bench Pokemon, and you have to discard

58:27

a card from your hand before you do it. Probably

58:29

outclassed by other supporters. Like,

58:33

The 1 that the ancient 1 we just talked about is probably

58:35

better.

58:36

Yeah. It seems like a perfectly mid card.

58:39

It's, like, really bad turn Like,

58:42

probably bad turn

58:44

slightly better than. Right?

58:46

Like

58:46

Yeah. Well, Zinnias, you draw an extra card. Right?

58:48

Because you draw for their

58:49

Yeah. But I I think the discard cost

58:52

with Zinnias is, like, 1 of the big things

58:54

that holds it back. Like,

58:55

why if you're building a deck, why would you

58:57

not play another Iono instead?

59:00

Right. Right. Yeah.

59:03

We got order box, which is maybe

59:05

the worst Trainer we've seen so far.

59:07

Search your deck for 2 item cards, put

59:10

them in your hand, and then your turn ends.

59:13

It's always nice to have stuff like that in format.

59:15

Good ways to end your turn if you're not gonna planning

59:18

on attacking.

59:19

Right. Right. Yeah. If you if you're going first, you

59:21

could

59:22

card obviously sucks. But

59:23

run this order box and get 2 item cards

59:26

for the

59:26

Yeah. It's it's it's nice to have

59:28

this stuff in format. Oh, something that's really funny

59:30

too is, like, if you play this card and then get, like, airied

59:33

Or whatever. But well,

59:37

that's funny.

59:39

Just a couple more. We got Salvatore. We talked

59:41

about this Last week is kind

59:43

of like it's basically Wally.

59:46

You can search your deck for a Pokemon

59:49

and evolve 1 of your Pokemon even if it's the

59:51

first turn. It just can't be a Pokemon

59:54

with an ability. So

59:56

as we've mentioned last week, Liam, this gets Banette

59:58

Turn 1.

1:00:00

Dude, I mean,

1:00:02

obviously, people don't really know, Like,

1:00:06

haven't put in much time with Bennett, but

1:00:09

there's so many people on Twitter when this card was released.

1:00:11

It was like, oh my god. Is Bennett saved?

1:00:14

As far as I can, Bennett I mean

1:00:17

like, but Bennett Bennett

1:00:20

doesn't work as just like an item lock deck.

1:00:22

Just getting the item lock does doesn't

1:00:24

win the game. And, like, it it it's not a

1:00:26

speed thing. It's the fact that, like, it

1:00:28

does 30 damage, and, like, item mark doesn't

1:00:30

really do anything because there's so few decks that

1:00:32

have, Like, actual powerful items

1:00:34

that they're reliant on. Like Gardevoir, they

1:00:37

literally just wait, like, 5 turns until they

1:00:39

eventually, like, drawn to a curly, and then they refine

1:00:41

it, like, a few times. And then they EvolveGuard EX

1:00:43

and they start smashing for 1 90 and you're doing 30

1:00:45

damage. You always lose. It

1:00:47

doesn't matter

1:00:48

them with the hand trimmer.

1:00:49

Yeah. Like,

1:00:52

yeah, the the speed of the Bennett doesn't matter.

1:00:55

And if you wanna play for Salvatore, you suddenly

1:00:57

have to play a bunch of switches. You have to squawk, And

1:00:59

then all you do is you get a fast Banette.

1:01:01

Your your cards have to go other places. If you're

1:01:03

trying to win with games with Banette, like, this

1:01:06

30 damage item lock doesn't win a game. You

1:01:08

you have to you have to play for a

1:01:10

different endgame and just use the item as,

1:01:12

like, a lock.

1:01:15

Seems spot on to me. I don't

1:01:17

really know how this sees play.

1:01:20

Being able yeah. Not being able to get

1:01:22

ability Pokemon is like

1:01:24

Like,

1:01:25

It it turns off all the cheese, basically.

1:01:27

Yeah.

1:01:28

Right. The the the the the Pokemon you wanna

1:01:30

get out, get those out. But all the other

1:01:32

ones go

1:01:34

Yeah. No. Exactly. Yeah.

1:01:38

And to round us off,

1:01:40

we have mist energy. Colorless

1:01:42

energy, prevent all effects of attacks from your

1:01:44

opponent's Pokemon done to the Pokemon

1:01:46

this card is attached to.

1:01:50

Cool card.

1:01:50

if this

1:01:51

like this

1:01:52

if this came out

1:01:53

desperately lacking effects right now.

1:01:55

well, here's like, if this came out 1

1:01:57

year ago, Even, like,

1:01:59

right when Lugia rotated, this card

1:02:01

would be insane. Right? It would be so good.

1:02:03

You'd you'd play it for sure to

1:02:05

get around Sableye, to get around

1:02:08

Star Requiem, like a bunch of stuff

1:02:10

would play this. Now? I don't

1:02:12

know. Yeah. Roi Moon.

1:02:14

exactly.

1:02:15

I mean, you'll you'll put 1 in your Lugia

1:02:17

deck Because apparently Lugia is more

1:02:19

playable than I thought it was. And

1:02:22

like and you know, you'll find some situational

1:02:24

use and you'll be like, we did that thing. But

1:02:30

Yeah. Seems okay. Yeah. It'll

1:02:32

see some play, but I'm not, like, super hyped

1:02:35

about it.

1:02:36

It will impact the format, I think

1:02:39

but small ways, of course.

1:02:41

Yeah. Like, it's it's a fine card.

1:02:44

Mhmm. It's it's a good effect to have in format.

1:02:46

This format doesn't have 1 of those, and we're

1:02:48

feeling it every day. Absolutely

1:02:52

sucks that we have play

1:02:54

with Giratina and Ring Moon FX,

1:02:57

um, with, like, literally 0 counters

1:02:59

in format. But, you

1:03:01

feel compelled to bench both Jirachi and Manaphy

1:03:04

to survive, like,

1:03:05

Yeah.

1:03:06

crazy.

1:03:09

Yeah. And it

1:03:11

seems like pretty solid in some

1:03:13

type of control deck where then

1:03:15

you can get around those effects. Cool.

1:03:18

a set.

1:03:20

That's the set. I'm excited to

1:03:22

play it. Though, I do like this format.

1:03:24

This format is pretty fun overall.

1:03:28

It's always good to get new stuff, but this

1:03:30

is a this

1:03:31

No. This format this format's, like, objectively just

1:03:33

a good format. Like, every

1:03:36

format so far that's had Guardian as the number

1:03:38

1 deck is a is a good format. But

1:03:42

That's true.

1:03:44

oh, dude. Last night,

1:03:47

I saying control x reminded me at the end

1:03:49

row. I I was in the the Alessandro

1:03:52

stream, as always, Today.

1:03:57

And somebody, like, asked

1:03:59

them, like, something about control

1:04:01

decks. I think it was like, There's no control

1:04:03

decks. Control is a mindset. It's

1:04:07

actually so facts, though. Like, it's

1:04:10

it's it's facts. Like,

1:04:12

It's like Charizard's a control

1:04:14

deck. Muse a control deck

1:04:16

for the paths. Exelible, this

1:04:18

is true. So

1:04:20

I mean, you can, like I I like that

1:04:22

because there there is a There

1:04:25

are games with every single deck where

1:04:27

you need to adopt the

1:04:29

control mindset. Right? Like,

1:04:31

change how

1:04:32

Yeah.

1:04:33

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where you're like, oh, I

1:04:35

can you know, the against

1:04:37

Charizard, they they're down 6 energy

1:04:40

and 2 rods. Let's

1:04:42

boss up that Lumineon v.

1:04:45

Yeah. Exactly. Right? Like, It's

1:04:47

it's it's like the way you play the cards and, like, how

1:04:49

you implement them. But the the terms

1:04:51

whether or not they're, like, control cards.

1:04:53

Yep. Exactly. So, yeah, that's a

1:04:56

that's a good that's a

1:04:57

The mindset. The mindset. It's

1:05:02

the goat.

1:05:02

Alright, guys. Quick would you rather because it's

1:05:05

been a while since we had 1, and I got 1 for you.

1:05:08

You have a choice. Would you rather

1:05:10

have a hook for a hand or a

1:05:12

peg for a leg?

1:05:14

Holy.

1:05:16

What kind of pirate do you wanna be? This is

1:05:18

a question before the court.

1:05:20

Has to be your non dominant hand for sure.

1:05:23

Even so, that's close.

1:05:25

Right.

1:05:28

Like, I don't wanna be I don't wanna be, like, wobbling

1:05:31

around all the time,

1:05:32

Yeah. Like like, look. The peg is,

1:05:34

like, properly sized. Right? Like,

1:05:37

It's and, like like, I don't, like, have to lean towards

1:05:39

the peg side. Right?

1:05:41

mean, you're walking on a peg leg. I

1:05:43

assume It's properly sized,

1:05:45

don't I don't

1:05:46

walking on a peg leg.

1:05:48

Yeah.

1:05:48

be that bad? Like, you basically lose

1:05:51

your your, like, Toes. Not even,

1:05:53

like, your foot because you still have a little little

1:05:55

click and paste to stand on. Right? Like,

1:05:57

basically at least your toes. And, like, who

1:05:59

is your, Like, the

1:06:01

face of your foot, if you wanna play soccer, but, like,

1:06:03

you know, we're talking about peg leg or

1:06:05

a hook here. We'll have to live without soccer.

1:06:09

That seems pretty easy. You're basically saying my leg works the

1:06:11

exact same. Like, does it?

1:06:14

Wait. Sitting down with a peg

1:06:16

leg is crazy. Right?

1:06:19

It just sticks straight out.

1:06:21

Yeah. Oh, boy.

1:06:24

I think I'd probably go with the peg leg as

1:06:27

well. Like, the big things

1:06:29

that I would be missing kinda as Liam said, like

1:06:31

soccer, just general physical activity.

1:06:33

I guess I'd be like trying to ride a bike

1:06:36

somehow much more since I

1:06:38

can't run and stuff like that. But

1:06:40

jump. Right?

1:06:42

Can't jump. I mean, you could, like,

1:06:44

jump

1:06:45

if you have to, like, bend your knees to jump, you have to

1:06:47

jump off 1. Wait. Wait. That's not even jumping.

1:06:49

I assume you can take off the peg leg.

1:06:53

If you take off the peg leg, how are you

1:06:55

Dude, though, I think the thing you're doing is jumping.

1:06:59

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

1:07:02

Yeah, man. Okay. Like,

1:07:05

hook would suck though, man. Like, having

1:07:07

2 hands is so

1:07:11

Opposable thumbs is a crazy

1:07:12

I was thinking about what you could do with

1:07:14

a payslip

1:07:15

Like, what if the hook was a cool

1:07:17

hook where, like, You could you could shoot that

1:07:19

thing out, like a like like a a little wire

1:07:21

and, like, just grab stuff. Like,

1:07:23

you just grab the remote with your with, like, a

1:07:25

a hook. Grab a remote. You know, you're

1:07:27

just sitting on the couch.

1:07:28

would go on the all apple diet so he could be flexing

1:07:31

his hook on people. Just be like, whap. Taking

1:07:34

a bite out of this apple now.

1:07:36

I feel like there's something there's some cool stuff you could

1:07:38

do if you could turn your hand into, like,

1:07:40

you know, So

1:07:43

so some type of, like, crazy mechanical arm.

1:07:46

Like, talking about that kind of hook,

1:07:48

not like the you know, It's like throw

1:07:50

a throw a little.

1:07:51

You're you're like, you're you're imagining that

1:07:53

you've lost your hand, but you've become Batman.

1:07:56

More like Iron Man, but yeah.

1:07:59

Fair enough. Fair enough. Alright.

1:08:01

Guys, John Pauls are our outro. It's

1:08:03

another pod of the books. We'll be back next week

1:08:06

to talk about Dortmund regionals.