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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm

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so glad you guys are here. But you knew, you

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knew it had to happen. You knew that

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we were going to have to cover the

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end of Christinhams's career, at least her

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political career. I don't know. She may

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go on to work for I don't know, like

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a puppy mill or something. I'm not sure,

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but at this moment, it

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looks like she's pretty much done in politics.

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And I know you've heard the story, and if you haven't

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heard the story, I'll give you a little bit of

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an update really quick on what she what

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exactly killed her career. So she wants to be

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vice president. I mean, she doesn't even hide

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it. She definitely wants to be vice president.

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And I do think that she wrote her book

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intending to show herself

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as this tough lady who could definitely

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take over in case of emergency and run

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the country. Apparently

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she underestimated the amount of people that like

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animals in the country, which is weird because I

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feel like it's kind of a well known thing.

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But she talked about shooting

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a dog, her dog. Let's

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just be honest. It was a puppy. It was fourteen months

1:03

old. But she says,

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well, I'll just read some of it. She

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says that this dog attacked chickens

1:11

like a trained assassin. That's what

1:13

she said. But then she goes on after

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she killed the dog, took the dog

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to a gravel pit. She shot the dog, not

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even like she put the dog down with a vet.

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I think that's part of the problem we're

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all disturbed by. Like

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it's one thing to have a dog that you say

1:30

has done some bad things, and

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then you're like, this is devastating. We have

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to go take the dog and put the dog down. Not

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many of us are like, going to the gravel

1:39

pit, I'm going to shoot the dog. But that's what

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she did. And then she went on to say,

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I hated that dog. This is part

1:46

of the book. I hated that dog. Noom recalls

1:48

calling Cricket less than worthless

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as a hunting dog, untrainable, and

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dangerous to anyone she came in contact

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with. At that moment, I realized

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I had to put her down. So you

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can see people were like, yeah,

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you just don't go out and shoot your dog. But then

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the political like media

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monster sort of started to consume

2:12

this, and you would expect the left to

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immediately jump on this, so the leftist

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media, but it was really widely

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received as a bad, bad thing. But

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here I wanted you to see what they say

2:24

about how puppies pull, so listen

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to this.

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But listen, I mean puppies still pull

2:30

pretty well. They certainly pull higher than Christy Nome.

2:32

Right well, right now, I think she's done

2:34

in the vieps Race.

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Yeah, that was on MSNBC,

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So we're like, okay, obviously MSNBC is

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going to attack her and say she's done for the VIEP

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Race. Although this is kind of like an episode of VIEP.

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I could see this happening, especially how it rolled

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out with like they keep putting

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her out there and it's sort of

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like watching an episode of Seinfeld. But it's

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not funny. You know Seinfeld, you always

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expect something funny, but the whole time you feel kind

2:58

of uncomfortable that the

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entire last week of watching Christy Um on

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television. So she goes on Newsmax.

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You would think news Max would like try to save

3:07

her, throw her a lifeline, help

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her out. But Rob Finnerty, who

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you've heard on this program a few times,

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he really just destroys her

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in the most polite but accurate,

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destructive way. Here it is I.

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Agree with you there, but going

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back to what you said a moment ago, maybe not lying to

3:26

the American people. And I think this is important

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to talk about because the book's called No Going Back

3:31

the Truth on What's wrong with Politics,

3:33

And I think part of the problem with politics

3:35

today is that politicians aren't

3:37

honest with the American people. So if

3:39

Governor, if you asked me a month ago, who's

3:42

at the top of the list to run with Donald Trump, I

3:44

would have said your name. If you ask me

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that same question this morning, I don't even think you're on the list,

3:48

really, So my question for you, yes, really,

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And it's because of things that have come out in this book, like

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your claims that you met Kim Jong Unn.

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She's like really, I think at

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this moment she's realized that her

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comms team has done

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her a disservice, because

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I do think in politics you can do shady

4:07

things and come back from them. We've seen politicians

4:10

do it all the time. I mean Bill Clinton

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is a perfect example. He did

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all kinds of shady crap. Look at Hillary

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my gosh, BEng ghazis. Then she runs

4:19

for president. You can do

4:21

a lot of stuff and come back from it, but

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your comms team has to be a little smarter

4:26

than this. Once this starts

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happening, if you decide

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we're still going to go on with the buck tour, which

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was probably a bad decision. Once

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this starts happening, you'd

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think you'd pull her, but no, she

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keeps going. She keeps going. And

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I think Varney was probably the funniest one

4:43

because you kind of think of Varney as the serious

4:45

guy. But he's not gonna let

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her out of it. Listen to this.

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I still think that you are in line to be Trump's

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vice president. It's up to Donald Trump. He's

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the only person who will decide this. He's

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the only person who will decide. And I spoke, yes, I

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do speak to him. May I ask what you said to you about

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being Oh, I never tell anybody

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my personal conversations with conversation.

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I talked to President Trump all the time about the dogs,

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about a lot of things. And right now I tell you what.

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He is being persecuted in a political

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hunt, which hunt in this court

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case. So I'm proud of him about

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how tough he is and how well he is

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doing. Did you bring up enough Steward?

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This interview is ridiculous what you were

5:23

doing right now, So you need to stop.

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It is okay, it is.

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Let's talk about some real topics that Americans care

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about.

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I'm afraid we are ount of time.

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Oh well, of course we are.

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We do. Thank you for being with us.

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I know I press hard, but that's what people.

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Are talking about to this day.

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Yeah, got to know, thanks for joining us.

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We appreciate it. He's

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right, that's what people are talking about. They

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are going to she's literally on a

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tour for the book. Of course

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they're going to ask her about the book.

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And this is the biggest story in the book

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right now. And so I'm pretty

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sure that after Varney,

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she went back to her comms team, and the comms team

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was like, we're we're going to go home. We're

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going to go back to South Dakota, and we're going to make sure

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that we don't have any gravel pits on the side of

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the road on the way there, for fear they were

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going to end up there because this was

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truly the end of her career. But I

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want to take kind of a different.

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Look at this, because I agree

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the story is horrendous,

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it's awful. Everyone

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is talking about how you can't do

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this to animals. But let's

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dig in a little deeper on the left and

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how much they're pushing on this. This is from the Daily

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Show.

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The past few years, I have been wondering how

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far is too far for the right

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wing maga crowd. And now we

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know it's shooting your dog in a gravel

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pits that is not

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acceptable.

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How far is too far for the magabrite?

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This is where I take exception. How

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far is too far for the left. So

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we can all agree that killing puppies

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is too far. But

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I want to read you something that

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was recently in the Washington Post

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talking about killing babies.

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This is something that the left is able to

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get out of. They never have

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to talk about it. I mean, look at you have the

7:13

press secretary for the president. She

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talked about the killing poppies too. Listen to what she

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said.

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We find her comments from

7:20

yesterday disturbing, We

7:23

find them absurd. And

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here this is a country that loves dogs

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and you have a leader talking

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about putting dogs down, killing

7:36

them, and that's a disturbing statement

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to say I would say to

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I would say to her, is she probably should stop

7:44

digging herself in a hole.

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It's interesting we have a country that loves

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dogs. She's talking

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about putting dogs down, a

7:52

leader who's digging herself a

7:54

hole, and yet the leaders

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on the left they can talk about murdering

7:59

babies every single day. In fact, they're running on

8:01

it. I mean, it goes beyond

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just being able to talk about it. They're

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running on it. So while I think

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what Christy nom wrote in her book is

8:11

horrendous, and the fact that she writes it with no

8:13

remorse is even worse, but

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the fact that that to

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the left is appalling,

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and yet pro life people

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are also appalling to them.

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Let me contrast what Karine Jean

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Pierre said about

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killing puppies with what she said

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about limits on abortion. Here it is does

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President Biden favor any limits

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on abortion?

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We've been very very clear here since

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you're talking about my topper, I was talking specifically

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about Senator Lindsay Graham.

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And your position on his plan is

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clear.

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Fifteen weeks is unacceptable.

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Well, speaking to directly to what

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Republicans are trying to do. So they are calling

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they are calling for a national band which

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takes us backwards, which

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will it's a national ban which will

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take us backwards and will

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put at risk the health of

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women.

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So if you're calling for limits

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on abortion, let's be honest. This isn't a

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band. This is limits on abortion. This is

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making sure that you're not killing

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babies up to the moment of birth, and the limit

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it's not extreme. The

9:29

majority of European countries

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are under fifteen weeks, but

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also the majority of

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abortions are under fifteen weeks in

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the United States. Doug

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M. Hoff goes out and he says, my

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gosh, you know, there's a six week ban in

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some of these states, and nobody even knows they're

9:46

pregnant before six weeks. Guess

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what, Forty five percent of abortions in the

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United States happen at sixteen weeks or six

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weeks or before. Forty five percent

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of abortions happen at six weeks

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or before. He's saying, most

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people don't even know they're pregnant, and yet almost half

10:02

of abortions happened. Then she's

10:04

talking about fifteen weeks.

10:06

That was Kreeen Jean Pierre. She's talking

10:09

about the fact that Lindsey Graham

10:11

came out and said he thought there should be a fifteen week

10:13

limit on abortion, and she says, this is putting

10:15

women's health at risk. Ninety three percent

10:17

of abortions in the United States of

10:19

America are performed at thirteen weeks

10:21

or before. I mean, we

10:24

can put these bands out there or these

10:27

limits out there, they're

10:29

not changing anything. So all these people

10:31

that are concerned it's changing something, it's actually

10:33

not changing anything. The sad

10:36

thing I think is that we've

10:38

gotten to this point where the left can glorify

10:41

abortion. I mean, listen,

10:43

listen to Kamala Harris talking about this is

10:46

first of all, this is their campaign

10:49

staple. This is what they're running on, every

10:52

one of them. This is what they ran on in Michigan.

10:54

Gretchen Whitmer, she's a queen of abortion. She wants

10:56

to go across the country. She even says Joe Biden's

10:58

not talking about abortion enough, like Kamala

11:01

Harris has to get out there. She has got

11:03

to talk about abortion. My goodness, the

11:05

woman has to. I mean, she's never had

11:07

a child, but maybe she has a

11:09

great experience in this category. I don't know, but

11:11

she's the Vice president. She's got to talk

11:13

about it, but she

11:16

thinks it's hilarious. Here she is.

11:19

Let me just tell you, you guys are going to have to be ready for

11:21

this, ready for certain language.

11:24

And I said, very loudly, ovaries

11:31

philopian tubes, right.

11:34

Un.

11:38

It's a joke. It's a joke to them,

11:41

such a joke to them.

11:43

They're willing to bet their entire political

11:46

career on whether or not they can make sure abortion

11:48

exists. So let's take a quick commercial

11:50

break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon

11:52

Podcast. I

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want to get to that Washington Post story

11:59

so you can hear about the jokes

12:01

that are real life abortion stories.

12:03

And the funny thing about this story in the Washington Post

12:06

is that they wrote this story because

12:08

they're like, look at what Republicans are trying

12:10

to do. They're putting women in danger

12:12

because they're taking this abortion pill and

12:15

they might be in states where it's not legal

12:17

to have an abortion at a certain point in time,

12:19

and so the abortion pill causes problems.

12:22

Now, you may remember a few weeks back, we had

12:24

some doctors on who were fighting the Supreme

12:26

Court. They were they were fighting the FDA

12:29

taking them to the Supreme Court because they said they had

12:31

changed their requirements and the abortion

12:33

pill, and women were taking it without

12:35

a doctor, without a doctor's appointment, and

12:38

they were getting into trouble because if you take it

12:40

after a certain point, you can have problems, but you can have

12:42

complications anytime, and they're ending up in the er,

12:45

and they just wanted to have this appointment

12:47

with the doctors back Now,

12:49

the Washington Post is saying you should have

12:51

abortion care at home. But

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the problem is that in some of these states it's

12:56

really hard for these women to have abortion care at

12:58

home. You got to hear this, though. I don't think

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this is the win they thought it was, so they

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say. They spoke with more than three

13:04

dozen doctors, advocates, leading researchers,

13:07

and women who took pills in states where abortion

13:09

has been banned because of dobbs over

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the phone and in person. Many women described

13:14

experiencing deep anxiety

13:16

and uncertainty about doing

13:18

something they assumed was illegal. These

13:20

feelings often it's intensified after

13:23

they took the medication, with some not

13:25

expecting the level of pain or

13:28

the amount of bleeding they would experience

13:30

or get this this, Tommy, I think

13:33

is the real shocker

13:36

or how much of the fetus they would see.

13:38

A few use the pills later in pregnancy

13:41

than the FDA recommends, a

13:43

few use the pill later in pregnancy

13:45

than the FDA recommends, and

13:47

they were shocked by the amount of fetus they saw.

13:50

I mean, to me, it's just so disturbing.

13:53

But there's this group and they have

13:55

this organization

13:58

that answers. Calls it organization

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the Miscarriage and Abortion Hotline.

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It was founded by this woman. She's

14:05

a physician. Doctor Prine co

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founded the Miscarriage and Abortion Hotline

14:10

in twenty nineteen as a resource for people

14:13

self managing miscarriages or abortions

14:15

at home. I don't know how many people would

14:17

ever self manage a miscarriage. So I just think

14:19

that's baloney. Like, you

14:22

have a miscarriage, you go to your doctor. This is about

14:24

abortion, Let's be honest, That's what this is

14:26

about. So Linda Prine

14:28

was answering a few I'm going to read this to you because

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I think you have to hear it. You have to

14:33

hear this and know that the Washington

14:36

Post is writing this. The same people

14:38

outraged by the death of a puppy

14:41

are going to write this like

14:43

it's just okay. Linda Prine

14:45

was answering a few emails, coffee mug

14:47

in hand, when her cellphone rang. Hi,

14:50

this is the hotline doctor, the seventy two

14:52

year old said from her New York City home

14:54

one Sunday morning in January. Can I

14:57

help you? The voice

14:58

Priane heard was quiet and

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scared, belonging to a fifteen

15:03

year old with an area code in a state

15:05

with an abortion band, who had

15:07

taken pills and passed a fetus

15:09

larger than she'd expected. Unable

15:12

to flush the fetus down the toilet,

15:15

the girl asked about throwing it away.

15:17

She was young enough to be Prine's granddaughter.

15:20

Priane cradled the phone in both hands and leaned

15:23

in, trying to channel every ounce of reassurance

15:25

and understanding she could muster through the phone

15:27

line. There's nothing

15:30

in there that's traceable back

15:32

to you, as long as

15:34

you don't tell anyone. Let

15:37

me reiterate that the hotline doctor,

15:39

the doctor out of New York City. When

15:42

the girl calls and says she actually has a dead baby

15:44

in her arms or in her toilet, I

15:46

guess that she can't flush. She

15:48

can't flush it because it's a baby that's

15:51

too large to flush down

15:53

the toilet. The doctor

15:55

in New York City tells her, there's nothing

15:58

that's traceable back to you, as

16:00

long as you don't tell anyone.

16:02

Now.

16:03

To me, this is documenting a crime.

16:05

And I know a lot of people are going to say, oh, she would criminalize

16:08

this. There are laws about a

16:10

corpse, and this is a doctor who

16:12

should have said, you know what, this

16:15

is a very sad situation. We

16:17

have laws around this. We have to bring someone

16:19

in. I don't think

16:21

the girl should be held accountable, but

16:24

I do think that someone who gave a fifteen

16:26

year old girl abortion

16:29

pills when she was clearly

16:31

well past the ten weeks that it was acceptable

16:34

should be that we should track that person

16:36

down and find out what they're doing and take

16:38

their medical license away because she put

16:40

this little girl in major danger.

16:43

The girl asked if the abortion made her a

16:45

bad person. No, it doesn't, Prian said,

16:48

not a bit. You are doing what's right for you

16:50

and your future family. She

16:52

added, her voice firm, this

16:55

way you can be a good mom when you're ready

16:57

to be a good mom. This girl is in a terrible

16:59

situation. She's scared, she's

17:01

fifteen, years old. We don't

17:03

know how far along she is, but she's

17:05

got a baby in her toilet that's dead.

17:09

And the Washington Post puts

17:11

this out in an article like

17:13

this is something to be glorified. Thank

17:16

goodness, we could help this young woman. This

17:18

wasn't helping her. What is going

17:20

to happen to her knowing that

17:22

she has to remember that the

17:25

rest of her life. And she had

17:27

no care. Don't tell me that

17:29

this is reproductive care. She

17:31

had no care. She had no care at

17:33

all. Care would be Hey,

17:36

you know what, the FDA does not recommend you

17:38

take these pills at this time. If you need

17:40

to do this, it needs to be done a different

17:42

in a safe way. But

17:45

this is how they decided to do it. And they

17:47

decided that it was such a good story they

17:49

were going to print it in their newspaper and talk

17:52

about it. Here's the thing. They

17:54

also say the hotline typically receives

17:56

about thirty calls and fifty

17:59

texts every single day because

18:01

it becomes so common now to

18:03

take this pill. Because if you listen

18:05

to the mainstream media, I mean, gosh,

18:07

Caitlin Collins just had this interview where she's

18:10

like, this is as safe as an advil, it

18:12

turns out you're actually going into labor.

18:15

I mean, it's terrible.

18:18

And these girls aren't prepared because

18:20

they've been listening to the mainstream media who says

18:22

it's no big deal. Last time I took

18:24

an advill, it actually took my pain away, didn't

18:27

create pain. So imagine their shock when

18:29

they go into labor with

18:31

a dead baby. They say, in

18:34

a state where this is illegal, I

18:36

can go get medical care and make sure everything

18:39

is okay. That's what this hotline

18:42

is for. She said. She and her colleagues hear

18:44

the same questions again and again on the hotline.

18:47

These are some of the questions. Am

18:49

I bleeding too much? Am I bleeding? Am

18:51

I not bleeding enough? Is it normal to

18:53

have this much pain? That's

18:56

a common question. You know why,

18:59

because glorifying abortion and glorifying

19:01

murdering babies doesn't actually

19:03

tell you that when you do this, it's going to be incredibly

19:05

painful, it's going to be a bad experience, and

19:08

it's going to be something that you'll remember

19:10

the rest of your life. They

19:13

say. Patients who take the abortion pills

19:16

seek emergency care, ranging

19:19

from one point three to

19:22

eight percent. One point three percent

19:24

to eight percent of the people who are taking

19:27

these pills then have to also

19:29

seek emergency care. I mean,

19:32

I don't think that's the case with advil,

19:35

but I guess maybe I'm not sure. I want

19:37

to read another one to you because this one

19:39

is also hard. And I'm

19:41

reading this to you because the Washington Post put this

19:43

out there and they believe that this is something

19:45

that is going to make you say, man,

19:48

this pill should be widely available

19:50

and we should continue to have people taking it

19:53

home. So this woman's name is Brianna. At

19:55

her home in Alabama, Brihanna waited to take

19:57

the pills until she'd put all of her children to sleep.

20:00

Cramps in her lower back came first, followed by

20:02

full body chills, and eventually contractions

20:05

more painful than those she remembered

20:07

in childbirth. After lying

20:10

in bed for two hours, Brihanna felt something

20:12

pop under the comforter, followed

20:14

by a gush of warm liquid seeping

20:17

down her legs. Her water broke.

20:20

She ran to the bathroom, she recalled

20:22

in interviews in a journal entry, where

20:24

she felt a mass larger than

20:27

the palm of larger than her palm,

20:29

drop into the toilet. This

20:32

can't be happening, she thought to herself.

20:35

She looked down to see a bloody

20:38

umbilical cord dangling between

20:40

her legs. When the pills first

20:42

arrived in the mail a few days earlier in April

20:44

twenty twenty three, Brianna had expected

20:46

to experience what would be more

20:48

than difficult. The doctors exp who

20:51

administered the medication through aid access,

20:54

cautioned Brianna that

20:56

they quote do not like

20:59

to recommend medical abortions

21:01

as far into pregnancy as she

21:03

would be when the pills reached her. You see, she

21:06

reached out to the clinic around eleven

21:08

to twelve weeks. They don't know because

21:10

she didn't have a doctor's appointment. They're

21:12

assuming she reached out to the clinic around

21:15

eleven to twelve weeks. Then,

21:18

because this is a clinic that's overseas,

21:20

it took a while for her to get the pills,

21:22

So they are thinking that when she

21:24

finally took the pills, she was probably between

21:27

fifteen to sixteen weeks pregnant. This

21:29

pill is not recommended past ten

21:31

weeks, but they're giving it

21:33

to people because they want to make sure they have access

21:36

right alone in the bathroom.

21:38

It goes on alone in the bathroom.

21:40

Brianna had no idea what to do. The Aid

21:42

access doctors had told her to expect

21:45

nausea, vomiting, chills, blood clots,

21:47

and a fetus at least the size of

21:49

an orange. Emails show they

21:52

said nothing about an umbilical

21:54

chord. She orders this through

21:56

a phone call. They've never seen

21:58

her. They're never going to see her. They're not even on

22:00

the side of the pond. She's never going

22:02

to see these people. She doesn't know

22:06

she's giving birth to a dead baby. She

22:08

thinks she's having a heavy period. She's

22:11

shocked to find out there's an umbilical cord. What

22:14

is she going to do about this? And

22:16

she goes into questioning this. Do

22:19

I pull it out? Brianna wondered, frantically,

22:22

trying to remember what the doctors had done

22:24

when she gave birth. She's her

22:26

own doctor at this point. She's

22:28

just given birth to a dead baby. She has an umbilical

22:31

cord. She doesn't know what to do. She says, do

22:33

I just try to push it out? Her

22:35

boyfriend's sleeping in the other room. She's afraid

22:37

to wake him up. She doesn't want to go to

22:40

the emergency room. Finally, she decides to

22:42

call this number, Misscarage

22:44

and abortion hotline. She'd

22:46

seen an email from aid Access

22:48

where she got the pills. They get on the phone

22:50

and they say, that's the placenta you

22:53

need to push out when

22:55

you feel the next contraction. I

22:58

want you to push like you were give birth.

23:01

Well, because that's what this is. Brianna

23:04

sat there with the umbilical cord hanging loose

23:06

for at least fifteen minutes before

23:08

the placenta finally dropped

23:10

into the toilet. So here's

23:12

the behind the scenes. There a bunch

23:14

of doctors. They're getting

23:16

together because they call this hotline, and

23:18

then this doctor's like, what do

23:21

we do? This is maybe a bad situation,

23:23

because guess what, it is a bad situation. I've

23:26

lived this situation when I lost

23:28

my child, when we went through a miscarriage.

23:31

I had this situation where the placenta didn't

23:33

come out, and guess what, I had to go to surgery. So

23:35

she could have been moments away from surgery.

23:38

She didn't know, And let's be honest,

23:40

these doctors didn't know they were on the phone with her. So

23:44

apparently, behind the scenes they're going back and

23:46

forth and there are some doctors that are

23:48

saying, no, she has to this is an emergency. But

23:50

this doctor, Prine says, the same one that

23:52

told the fifteen year old, nobody's going to

23:54

be able to trace that dead body back to you. She

23:57

says, we didn't feel like it was a medical emergency.

23:59

She wasn't leading heavily, she wasn't lightheaded.

24:02

We would have recommended to go to the ear if

24:04

we thought it was medically necessary. However,

24:06

another person chimes in, another doctor

24:08

that the Washington Post talked to you and said, whenever

24:11

there is something inside the uterus that is trying

24:13

to come out and won't come out, the risk of bleeding

24:15

and infection gets higher with every passing

24:17

moment. At that point, your life is the most

24:20

important thing. Well wait

24:22

a minute, what I thought this was life saving

24:24

care? Or maybe it's endangering

24:27

your life. I mean, we know somebody died

24:29

that day. Apparently

24:31

Brianna almost died too. So

24:34

it goes on. As difficult as

24:36

the situation was, Brianna says she is

24:38

extremely grateful that aid Access

24:41

was willing to send her the pills, that

24:43

someone on the hotline was available to talk her through

24:45

it. Without the hotline, I would have been completely lost and

24:47

literally completely alone. The ladies stayed

24:49

on the phone with me for hours. I wish I knew her name.

24:52

Brianna stayed in the bathroom that night for

24:55

more than an hour. She knew

24:57

she shouldn't look at the fetus, she

25:00

said, she knew this, but she couldn't help it. In

25:03

the toilet, she could make out

25:05

a head, and she remembered

25:07

thinking the legs looked long.

25:10

There was a baby in her

25:12

toilet. The next thing she says,

25:15

I think is the most powerful part. Remember

25:18

this is in the Washington Post and

25:21

they're talking about how great it was that

25:23

she was able to do this. This

25:25

is from the same people that say, shout your abortion.

25:29

The next line from her, I

25:31

felt like a monster. This

25:34

is what happens these women

25:37

who are not ten weeks pregnant,

25:39

who are not six weeks pregnant, who

25:42

are not passing blood clots in the toilet,

25:44

They are oftentimes

25:47

thirteen weeks pregnant, fifteen

25:49

weeks pregnant. Hmm, and

25:54

this company Aid Access is sending

25:56

them these pills. The

25:58

problem is if you you are that

26:01

far along, it's just at

26:03

that point it's going to be a baby

26:06

that you're going to see in the toilet. But

26:09

don't worry. They follow up that

26:11

statement literally, let me read it to you again.

26:14

I felt like a monster, she said. Reflecting back

26:16

on that moment a year later, Brianna

26:18

said she is certain she made the right decision

26:20

for herself and her family, but she wishes

26:23

someone had told her more about what to expect.

26:26

If she had known the full extent of what could happen

26:28

during a medical abortion at fifteen or sixteen

26:30

weeks, she said, she probably would have searched

26:33

harder for an out of state clinic. Hey, we'll be

26:35

right back with more on the Tutor Dixon Podcast,

26:37

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28:19

This is the thing. It's happening

28:22

now, and we have no real

28:24

record. I mean, we know that we believe

28:26

it's ninety three percent of abortions happen

28:28

on or before thirteen weeks. But now we don't have

28:31

a record because telehealth

28:33

is allowing people in other countries

28:35

to send our young women abortion

28:37

pills and let them go into labor

28:40

with a dead baby at their house without

28:42

any explanation of what they're

28:44

going to actually experience.

28:46

These people take a pill and

28:49

wait for their baby to die.

28:52

Then they take a second pill and they

28:54

wait to go into labor. And you

28:56

know that this is true because these

28:59

people from Access said this

29:01

is This is part of the article too,

29:04

if we think people might be longer than that,

29:07

meaning longer than eleven weeks, because it says,

29:10

you know, they should be no further

29:12

along than eleven weeks. And then it says if we

29:14

think people might be longer than that, they get an email

29:16

to make sure they can navigate the situation. I

29:19

think of all the things in life that you actually have to like see

29:21

someone for, but they're going to send them an email

29:23

like these are the instructions for you to

29:25

get through this situation, they

29:28

said. The doctor who personally prescribed Brianna's

29:30

medication. According to the documentation

29:32

reviewed by the Post, this

29:35

is the doctor that said that. It says women

29:37

have agency, they are

29:39

perfectly capable of making these choices

29:41

about their own health, and we're here to support

29:43

them the best we can. There are decisions

29:46

about my health that I have sat

29:48

down and painstakingly reviewed

29:51

with my physician, and they've shown

29:54

me examples of what else has happened,

29:56

what could happen, what the future could be, what

29:59

I'll go through. We've talked extensively,

30:01

especially as a cancer patient. I

30:04

am never going to say, yeah, women can't

30:07

handle making choices. Of

30:09

course they can. That's not what this

30:11

is. They're not sitting down and having

30:13

a discussion. They're being told,

30:15

this is your choice. Do

30:18

this take this pill. You'll be fine. If

30:20

ever, everything's not fine, here's

30:23

a number to call. Knowing

30:26

that the majority of these people are going to have to call this number

30:28

because once they figure out they just killed their

30:31

baby and they're going into some horrible

30:33

hard labor at home. It's not so easy,

30:36

they say, it's just so crazy.

30:39

This is the last thing I'll read from it. Still, Prian

30:42

said she has fielded far more of

30:44

these calls from women later in pregnancy

30:46

than she would like. They

30:48

know they're coming through. They're openly admitting

30:51

it's happening more often

30:53

than we know beyond the thirteen weeks.

30:55

So maybe that number is just what they're recording,

30:58

because obviously these people are

31:00

doing things that are against the law. They're

31:02

probably not medically recording this correctly.

31:04

Eight access is not even in the US. And

31:07

this woman's telling a young girl

31:09

that she can throw away a fetus,

31:12

So what does she care? You know? Right, So,

31:14

she says she's fielded far more

31:16

of these calls from women later in pregnancy than

31:18

she would like, averaging one a day

31:21

on the hotline in the months

31:23

after the Supreme Court decision. Of

31:25

course, this goes back to Dobbs. It's

31:28

because of Dobbs that this is happening one

31:31

call a day and on average

31:33

coming into this hotline of a woman

31:35

who has taken this pill well beyond

31:38

the ten weeks and is having troubles.

31:41

She says some of the callers had no idea

31:44

how far along they were until they passed

31:46

the pregnancies. Others

31:48

knew, but chose to go ahead. Some

31:51

of them have no idea. Again, this

31:53

goes back to those doctors we had on who were saying,

31:56

we want to make sure that you have to have an appointment

31:58

ahead of time. You know how far along you are, you

32:00

know it's not an ectopic pregnancy. You know

32:02

that you're safe taking this pill. But no,

32:05

forget about that. We're getting rid of those laws.

32:07

We're getting rid of those rules. We're going to

32:09

let women have this experience

32:12

at home without any preparation. We're

32:14

not going to have any medical care again,

32:17

how can you call this care? How

32:19

dare you? How dare these

32:22

people get on television

32:24

and say, my gosh,

32:26

we can't believe that this could happen to puppies,

32:29

and then in the next breath glorify

32:32

abortion. If you care that much

32:34

about puppies, how can you care any

32:37

less about babies about humans?

32:39

It's shocking. But this is how,

32:42

this is how I just want

32:44

to end this, because this is how they

32:46

write it in the Washington Post. Beyond twelve

32:48

or thirteen weeks, women will see

32:50

a much more developed fetus

32:52

with its identify viable features,

32:56

so they know it. They know they're

32:58

going to see a much more developed

33:00

fetus. That's what Brianna saw. She

33:02

saw a head. She could even make out

33:04

that the baby was going to have long legs. Her

33:07

baby was going to be tall. Not

33:10

now, there is no baby

33:12

now, but people are going to see their

33:14

baby. As someone who has

33:17

seen my baby at eighteen weeks

33:19

along, when we lost her and we held her

33:21

in our arms, it's

33:23

hard. It is

33:26

a hard sight for someone who desperately

33:28

wanted the baby and lost the baby.

33:30

I can't imagine how much

33:33

more difficult it is to see that

33:35

baby knowing you

33:37

chose to let them go. And I

33:39

say this not in any way

33:41

to condemn the women saying why

33:43

are we not honest about this? Why

33:46

is it so hard to talk about this subject?

33:49

Because I think if a lot more women knew that this

33:51

was how it's going to go, they

33:53

would have more conversations about it, maybe

33:56

they would choose differently in life.

33:58

Because I've also had young women tell me

34:01

I don't want to take abortion. I'd rather do this

34:03

because I don't have to have so many chemicals

34:05

in my body all the time. I don't

34:07

want to take birth control. I'd rather choose this. They

34:09

don't want to take birth control. They'd rather choose this. They

34:11

don't fully understand what this is.

34:15

And then they're going through this, and

34:18

let me tell you, it doesn't go away, because

34:22

this is what is how the doctor ends

34:24

this segment of this portion of

34:26

the Washington Post article. We

34:29

hear the trauma when we talk to people.

34:31

It's an image you can't get out of your

34:34

head. I read this and it

34:36

has stuck with me. I read this weeks ago,

34:38

and it's stuck with me. And then as I saw

34:41

what was happening with Christy Nom, I'm

34:43

like, man, I think it's really

34:46

wacko too, to think that she

34:48

just went out there and did this. And it

34:50

wasn't so much wacko that she wanted

34:53

to protect her family or anything like that. But the

34:55

wacko part was like the lack of remorse.

34:58

I hated this dog, just had to kill the dog.

35:01

But then I was reminded of this, and I

35:03

think about the lack of remorse of

35:05

these doctors who glorify this, and yet

35:08

they've seen so many young

35:11

women go through tragic

35:13

experiences and it's over for

35:15

them the minute they shut down the hotline,

35:18

the minute they get off the phone, the minute they hang up.

35:20

That's over for them, for the doctor.

35:24

That fifteen year old girl lives

35:27

with that the rest of her life. And what did

35:29

she end up doing with the baby? Does she constantly

35:31

the rest of her life feel like I discarded

35:33

a body. And I'm not kidding. I mean I read

35:35

this and I was like, holy crap. This

35:38

is the Washington Post saying this is a

35:40

good thing, Like thank goodness,

35:42

these women had this. They

35:44

call it care again, I will not call it care. Had

35:47

access to these pills. Where is

35:49

the care? Where is the care?

35:51

And how does the mainstream

35:54

media go? This is so great.

35:57

All people should be voting for this, I

35:59

understand. I'm just going to close this

36:01

by saying, I understand that these

36:04

women get into tragic situations.

36:06

In Brianna's story, the backstory,

36:08

she was thirty four, she had

36:11

several children. She felt like she couldn't afford

36:13

this child. She felt

36:15

like this was her only option. I can't

36:17

imagine being in that situation. Now

36:20

she will always have this memory

36:23

of this, and it's tragic. The

36:26

fifteen year old girl a

36:28

same situation. She's well,

36:30

she's young, she doesn't have any

36:32

ability to care for this child. I

36:34

mean, that's what they say in the story, we

36:36

don't know if her parents knew. We don't know if

36:38

her parents were involved. I suspect her parents

36:41

didn't know because in many states now the

36:43

parents have no access to their child's healthcare.

36:45

And this this went through this aid

36:48

access that is in another country, and

36:51

she's in her own house and she's

36:53

throwing away her baby's body.

36:55

This is not care. This is when we should

36:58

say it is okay

37:01

for humans to come out and say,

37:04

I wish it weren't so. I

37:06

wish that it was so unthinkable

37:09

that we find ways to take care

37:11

of life in a different way,

37:13

to provide and have this in the

37:16

rarest of circumstances. And it

37:18

used to be a thing that Democrats would say, we want it

37:20

to be so rare. We

37:22

want women to have every possible

37:24

way to keep their child or give their child

37:27

up. We don't want the

37:29

back alley abortions. But I mean, now,

37:32

instead of having a coat hanger, you're

37:34

swallowing a pill. What's

37:37

the difference. These women are alone

37:39

in their homes, bleeding and

37:42

sometimes hemorrhaging. All

37:44

these women ended up in the er eight percent. This

37:46

is care. I don't

37:48

see this as care, and I have no problem

37:51

coming out and saying, my

37:53

heart breaks for these women. It

37:55

breaks and breaks for women across the

37:57

country that want to come out and say that this is

38:00

good, that this is oral,

38:02

that this is something we can rally

38:04

around. It should be that

38:07

this is something that is so rare,

38:10

This is a last resort, This is a desperate

38:12

situation, and that we love on those

38:15

women who make this choice, but we

38:17

try to make sure that women

38:19

feel like they have every other possible choice

38:21

before this. Just like the news

38:24

anchors were so willing to come out and say,

38:26

there's so many other options for this dog, and

38:29

they did. I mean it was shocking

38:32

how many of them were, like, there are so many homes

38:34

that it could have gone to. It could have gone to a shelter, it could

38:36

have gone to this. They would do anything anything

38:38

to have saved cricket. They would do

38:41

anything to find a place that was saved for

38:43

cricket to go. Those Democrats

38:45

would literally open the doors

38:48

to their home and bring multiple crickets

38:50

in to make sure that no cricket

38:53

has to die. That's the name of Christy Nom's

38:55

dog in case you didn't know. Yeah, they don't

38:57

want any dogs dying. They will do

38:59

any anything, literally anything to make

39:02

sure that no dog has to go

39:04

through this. The stories I just read.

39:07

Any Democrat that can read those and

39:09

tell me that they don't wish there

39:11

were a better answer for these women. They

39:14

are scum. And

39:16

I have no problem saying enough

39:18

is enough. We need to be honest about this situation.

39:21

It's tragic, it's terrible, it happens.

39:23

We want it to be rare, we want it to be unthinkable.

39:26

We don't want to glorify it. This pill

39:29

is scary. The fact

39:31

that women are able to take this pill way

39:33

past ten weeks and they're giving birth

39:35

at home, they have bodies that they're being told

39:37

to throw in the garbage shocking

39:39

to me. I know this is like a

39:42

really tough subject. I'm so thankful

39:44

that you are here with me today, that

39:46

you listened to what I had to say,

39:48

that you were willing to go through this Washington

39:51

Post article with me, And just so you

39:53

know, I want to in case you want to go back

39:55

and read this. The title of this article

39:57

on the Washington Post is alone in a Bathroom,

40:00

The fear and uncertainty of a post

40:03

row medication abortion. This

40:05

isn't a post row medication abortion.

40:07

Medication. Abortion has been around for decades

40:10

now. This is not new. I think

40:12

maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe it's like fifteen

40:14

years not new. It's not post

40:17

row. This is the truth about

40:19

the abortion pill, if you want to look it up again,

40:21

alone in the bathroom, the fear and uncertainty

40:24

of a post row medication abortion

40:27

on the Washington Post. Thanks for sticking

40:29

with me today, Thanks for hearing me out. Thank

40:31

you all who are out there and continuing

40:33

to fight to make

40:35

this unthinkable and give women true,

40:39

true healthcack you, and

40:41

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