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1:02

happy Sunday. Happy Sunday. And welcome to the

1:04

two maths, regular question and answer session. Should

1:07

we kick straight up? Let's just get straight

1:09

in. Okay, first question

1:11

from Andy in Blackheath in South

1:13

London. Do you think

1:15

governments should try to

1:17

define extremism that is not actually

1:19

unlawful? Well, thank you, Andy. I

1:21

think that's a question inspired

1:24

by Michael Gove last

1:27

Thursday announcing the

1:29

new definition of extremism.

1:32

And then in the House of Commons

1:35

naming for five organizations,

1:37

actually, too far right, the British

1:40

National Socialist Movement, Patriotic Alternative, and

1:43

on the Islamist side of the House,

1:46

Muslim Association of Britain, Cage and Mend.

1:48

Now, what's going on here? These

1:51

are groups that will potentially,

1:54

they haven't yet, potentially be

1:56

deemed extremist and they

1:58

will not be able to meet. ministers

2:00

or civil servants or

2:02

get public money and so on. I

2:06

don't know what you think about

2:08

this, but I'm, as I've

2:10

said, I think a few times, boringly, you know, I'm

2:12

a kind of ruler law guy. So

2:14

I like the idea that things

2:17

are legal or illegal, lawful or

2:19

unlawful. I'm very concerned about things

2:21

that fall into this grey area

2:23

of lawful but

2:26

forbidden or lawful but excluded.

2:29

You know, if the government prescribes a

2:32

group like His Book to Rea, that's

2:35

one thing, because then His Book to Rea can

2:37

go to judicial review and say, hang

2:39

on a minute, that's not fair, you know. But

2:44

we saw this in the online harms bill as

2:46

well, the idea of speech which was lawful but

2:48

harmful. And what does that

2:50

really mean? It really means that you give

2:52

the power to and

2:55

go over saying on the radio on Thursday

2:57

morning on the Today programme that

2:59

this would be judged by a

3:01

group of civil servants and academics

3:03

in a new centre for excellence.

3:05

Now, all that sounds very benign,

3:08

but I'm not sure I like the idea

3:10

of a group of people

3:13

like that deciding which organisations

3:16

are going to be having a potentially

3:19

official role in public life and which not.

3:21

Now, you know, none of those groups

3:25

that he mentioned on Thursday are

3:28

lovely or lovable, but that's not really the

3:30

point because what he's doing here is setting

3:32

up a mechanism that could

3:35

lead anywhere. Yeah, yeah. You know,

3:37

I mean, just take the trans

3:39

argument. Yes. You know,

3:41

hugely delicate, hugely sensitive, very

3:43

strong feelings on both sides.

3:46

A government that was

3:48

extreme on either way could

3:50

say, well, you know,

3:52

you can't, this organisation can't

3:55

have public funding or it can't speak

3:57

to ministers. And I think that's very

4:01

Again, one has to be a bit careful with slippery

4:03

slope arguments, but they do have their uses. The

4:06

thing that worries me is that

4:08

by putting these groups and naming

4:10

these groups as he has done, none of which

4:12

I'd heard of. Exactly, yeah. But I've

4:14

heard of them now. And by

4:17

the way, if you are an extremist and

4:19

in that group, what better publicity would you

4:21

care for than to have Michael Gove saying

4:23

he doesn't like you very much and you're

4:25

not going to get any government money? So

4:28

it becomes a bit of a recruiting sergeant.

4:30

I mean, Patriotic Alternative was the, I had

4:32

heard of because they were the group that

4:34

was leafletting. Do you remember that

4:38

asylum seeker hostel that was sort

4:40

of very nastily surrounded? Oh

4:43

yes, I do. It's a very mobbed, yeah. Well,

4:46

it was Patriotic Alternative that was leafletting

4:48

and riling up the, you know. But

4:50

I'd like to see them, you see,

4:52

that seems to me to be incitement

4:55

to violence. Yes, there's laws for that already. I'd

4:58

like to see the rozzers go and lock

5:00

them up. I'd much

5:02

rather the judiciary, I'd much rather

5:05

a judge decided whether someone was

5:07

inciting violence or inciting

5:09

riots or whatever like this or

5:11

criminal behaviour than a government minister

5:13

saying we really don't like these

5:15

people. Well, or worse, because the

5:17

minister at least didn't come to

5:19

the dispatch box,

5:21

but officials and

5:23

academics said Gove. What

5:26

does that mean? Yeah, he's suddenly back in love with

5:28

experts, isn't he? That's a very good

5:30

point. Yeah, no, suddenly experts ain't so bad.

5:33

You know, on the first edition of the New European

5:35

when we launched it was, it had at

5:37

the top, we had a load of fantastic columnists who

5:39

all agreed very bravely to be part of the new

5:42

newspaper and it just said introducing our experts

5:44

as a kind of a very, very dujour

5:47

nod to Michael Gove and his silly comments

5:49

about people are fed up of experts. Well,

5:51

he's back in love with them now. Well,

5:53

he loves them now as long as

5:55

they say what he likes. Yes, indeed. All

5:58

right, Andy. answer to your

6:00

question. Next question please. Thank

6:32

you Coby for a very

6:34

good and very difficult question. I have a

6:37

good question. And maybe it's not so difficult

6:39

because actually I think the treatment of Palestinian

6:42

civilians has been an

6:44

absolute outrage and has

6:46

been shaming Netanyahu's

6:49

government. And the

6:51

only thing I would say is that yes

6:53

there's still far too little being done internationally.

6:56

But I do see signs

6:59

of increasing weariness in

7:01

the dialogue and actual

7:04

action such as this seafront opening

7:06

up of aid from the the pier.

7:08

The pier from the UK and the

7:10

US and the EU. But I don't

7:12

think any human being,

7:14

you've got to separate out

7:17

what's happening and why with

7:20

what's happening to civilians on the

7:22

ground and the complete demolition

7:24

of great swathes of Gaza just

7:27

seems completely counterproductive to everybody involved. And

7:29

here's the thing is that I

7:32

mean I've been in

7:35

my writings and things I've

7:37

said and tweeted. I've been more supportive of

7:39

Israel's actions than a lot of other journalists.

7:44

That does not mean a carte blanche. What

7:48

happened at NASA is

7:50

self-evidently totally unacceptable. And

7:55

what Coby points out happened there

7:57

was deplorable now. Now.

8:01

I'm glad you know Andrew Mitchell foreign officer minister

8:03

is called for an explanation Cameron

8:05

has foreign secretary has said it's very

8:07

disturbing asked for answers from the

8:10

Israelis I hope they do and I hope they you

8:12

know they they they ask for them forcefully because

8:15

these are incidents that need to be you

8:18

know they cannot be forgotten and the reason I

8:20

say that is because I have a sad

8:23

feeling this this conflict is going

8:25

to go on for quite a while but

8:28

I would like to see it at the end of it accountability

8:32

and you know the IDF has a okay I

8:36

wouldn't go any further than that but an okay record

8:39

on court marshalling

8:42

soldiers that do this kind of thing

8:44

right it's we're looking

8:46

a long way down the line now but it's

8:48

essential yeah when

8:50

and if this does kind of when

8:53

there is a ceasefire when there is some sort of what

8:55

next discussion that this sort of

8:57

thing is not forgotten yeah

9:00

what what is what is awful and we've seen

9:02

it you know it's not just the IDF we've

9:04

seen it with the British Army in Iraq we've

9:06

seen it with the American Army in Iraq we've seen it

9:08

with the British Army in Ireland

9:10

we've seen it with the IRA

9:13

Bloody Sunday absolutely you know we've seen what

9:16

the dehumanization of civilians

9:18

in in conflicts like

9:21

this is just it's

9:23

just so bloody tragic we did

9:25

a front page on the new European a

9:28

couple of weeks ago yeah with the big headline just guards

9:30

and it was two sisters stood very

9:32

powerful and absolutely real but let me

9:34

tell you I spent a

9:36

couple of hours looking through photographs to

9:38

pick one that would be powerful but

9:41

usable usable yeah and mate there

9:43

were hundreds that were just unusable

9:46

because they were so awful

9:48

you couldn't as much as I wanted

9:50

to to convey the horror of

9:52

what's happening there you couldn't

9:55

it wouldn't be fair to people but there

9:57

are so there is some horrible horror

9:59

horrible stuff happening in Gaza and you

10:02

can understand why people are

10:04

taking hard line views against Israel because

10:06

of what they're seeing on social

10:10

media. It's very important

10:12

that the aftermath has

10:14

to be very, very carefully done

10:17

and part of it is, I

10:21

don't know whether the South African Truth and

10:23

Reconciliation Commission is a model for this because

10:25

this is actually a conflict rather than a

10:28

structural issue. I mean, there are structural

10:30

issues in the Middle East too, but this is a

10:32

war. This is a war, right? But

10:35

I really think it's important that when the

10:38

guns stop firing and

10:41

the bombs stop dropping that

10:44

there isn't what often happens afterwards, which is, as

10:46

you said, implied a sort of tip Xing of

10:48

everything. You know, it is really important that people

10:50

are held to account. You know, if Israel is

10:52

going to maintain its position and

10:55

that position has been, you know, wherever

10:57

you stand in this whole argument, it's just

10:59

an empirical fact that position has been seriously,

11:03

you know, undermined

11:05

by people's views of what's

11:07

going on. Yeah. There

11:09

will be a lot of work to be done

11:11

to restore Israel's international image and part of that

11:13

will be incidents like this.

11:15

Yeah. And I hope, and I

11:18

can't be sure, but I hope that they are.

11:20

But you know, it's one of these what

11:23

if questions which are going to be a long way down

11:25

the line. I think

11:27

it's been 10 years, I think, before we look at

11:29

it objectively. It is because I think that part

11:32

of the problem is that, you

11:34

know, clearly Netanyahu is a disastrous

11:37

prime minister and

11:39

the minute there's a ceasefire of any

11:41

duration, he'll go. Yeah.

11:44

But I think it's under appreciated here

11:47

that let's say Benny

11:49

Gantz, who's a very

11:51

different ideologically and certainly wouldn't have done all those

11:55

appalling judicial reforms that Netanyahu did,

11:58

is a pretty tough. military

12:00

kind of guy and he may be centre

12:03

ground ideologically but he's not going to he's

12:06

more intelligent than Netanyahu I think but but

12:08

he's not going to kind

12:10

of roll over. No no so

12:12

so I mean the

12:15

difficulty you have here is is that the

12:18

Israeli soul has been badly scarred

12:21

by this and

12:23

you're dealing with a nation

12:25

that feels embattled and hated by the

12:27

whole world and to which

12:29

the answer is well this is

12:31

why. Stop doing things. The reason I mentioned that

12:33

is because just replacing

12:40

Netanyahu has become a sort of some

12:43

people see him as a kind of panacea and

12:46

I think it isn't the number of

12:48

steps you need to get to a sort

12:50

of measure of decency and

12:52

things coming down is unfortunately

12:54

quite a way away but

12:56

I agree with Kobe I think you

12:59

know these I hope that these

13:02

are all being you

13:04

know listed recorded

13:07

and that they will be everyone will

13:09

be held to account appropriately. But Kobe's question I

13:11

mean we can go on about this all day

13:13

and we haven't got the time to unfortunately but

13:16

Kobe's question is why is no

13:18

one intervening and that that is at the

13:20

nub of it. We're sending aid and we're

13:22

doing what we can but no one's are

13:25

we intervening? The question in fact it

13:29

boils down to America okay I mean

13:32

Biden and Anthony Blinken

13:34

his secretary of state if they

13:36

were here would say we do

13:38

little else we spend you know and Blinken

13:40

has literally been doing Kissinger style shuttle diplomacy

13:42

and has had one-on-ones with the members of

13:44

the Israeli cabinet saying you've got to have

13:46

a ceasefire and then

13:48

they go to Qatar and it doesn't work out

13:51

and we get back so they are putting on

13:53

pressure but it was interesting

13:55

Biden did a interview in which

13:57

he was asked about red lines and

14:00

He said, well, you know, I'd be very angry if they

14:02

went into the referendum, but of

14:04

course I wouldn't hold off any aid.

14:07

And I think that's the interesting question is

14:09

at what point would

14:12

an American administration start

14:16

to impose more restrict aid

14:18

on the basis of behavior? Here's a

14:20

wacko question for you cause you'll know

14:22

much better than me. Would

14:25

Trump intervene more directly

14:28

if elected as president? You'll

14:30

be amazed to

14:32

know that Trump, I mean, at

14:35

least we can say Biden, people can

14:37

say it's more too pro-Israel, right? But

14:40

he really is, he's read into the area.

14:42

We went to Tel Aviv immediately after October

14:44

the 7th. You know, he is

14:46

trying, people may not think it's the

14:49

right thing. Trump doesn't know

14:51

where Gaza is. The

14:53

only thing he has said of any substance

14:56

is that Israel should finish the

14:58

job. Right, okay. So

15:00

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17:49

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17:51

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17:54

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17:56

will inevitably have to be dominated for

17:58

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18:00

about Trump's presidency. Imagine how we feel.

18:02

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18:05

would you ensure keeping an avid listener

18:07

like me, thank you, under the stress

18:09

of a Trump presidency when I'd be

18:11

tempted to avoid the mental distress and

18:13

go into blissful ignorance? And that's from

18:15

Andy. Okay, well, first

18:17

of all, Andy, welcome to our world. Secondly,

18:20

put down whatever substances you're thinking of

18:22

using to go to blissful ignorance, because

18:24

all is not lost, all is not

18:26

lost. Got to tell it

18:29

as we see it, right? Yeah. And the fact is

18:31

that right now, if it was today the vote,

18:33

Trump would probably win, right? But there's eight months

18:35

to go. And Biden

18:37

stormed the State of the Union last week.

18:39

He was brilliant. So

18:42

if he can just keep up standing

18:44

upright and do that often

18:46

enough, then we

18:48

could have a card game, right? So

18:51

that's the good news. It

18:55

to take your, to take your

18:57

premise, Andy, that there is a Trump

18:59

presidency. I

19:02

think in all conscience, I can't make

19:04

many premises because his very hard on behaving

19:07

in a sensible and sage way is pretty

19:09

small. I

19:12

mean, I hope desperately

19:15

that between now and November the 5th, the

19:18

American people will step

19:20

back from the abyss. Yeah. Yeah. It

19:22

is actually quite early in the electoral

19:24

cycle. Yeah. But can

19:27

I also make the point that there will be

19:29

plenty to be talking about in UK politics. Oh,

19:31

gotcha. We're not fill the shows with

19:34

Keir Starmer, hopefully. Yeah, I mean,

19:37

exactly. I mean, it

19:40

has been the case that we've just

19:42

gone through the primary season, which is

19:44

now over. There will now be a

19:46

hiatus until the earliest, I

19:50

imagine the conventions. Unless I'm in the summer, July

19:52

and August. So

19:56

no, of course. Yeah, you know, we're

19:58

not just going to. talk about

20:01

the decline in

20:03

fascism of America. I don't underestimate blissful

20:06

ignorance either Andy. I always recommend taking

20:08

a bit of time out now and

20:10

again from the news. Yes, I mean

20:12

you know, don't think that the orange

20:14

man is the most important or the

20:16

only person in the world just because

20:18

he's going to renege on climate change

20:20

and NATO. He's linked

20:23

to the EU and everything else. Exactly.

20:25

It's fine, it's fine. As

20:28

Jurgen Klopp says, every little thing is

20:30

going to be okay. Every little thing

20:32

is going to be right. Right, Andy, another

20:35

Andrew. Alright, were Hatland Co. good

20:37

for the Liverpool? Yes. I

20:39

like the difference, the Liverpool. Where

20:42

Matt grew up, Andrew Robinson France. Well, I

20:44

defer to you Matt. So this is Derek

20:46

Haton and Militant and Co. Dexy,

20:48

who ran Liverpool

20:52

Council in the early

20:55

80s. No,

20:57

they weren't I don't think. I

21:00

think you can make a

21:02

case for they identified

21:04

a seam

21:08

of resilience that Liverpool very much

21:10

needed at that time because it

21:12

had been effectively literally

21:14

abandoned by Thatcher's government.

21:19

And there wasn't that much sign

21:21

of traditional labour if

21:23

you want really piling in and looking

21:26

to drag Liverpool up, which

21:28

it very much needed at the time. And

21:31

they went on massive housebuilding sprees. I was

21:33

in Liverpool at the weekend, funnily enough, at

21:35

the Liverpool Man

21:37

City game which was one of the best

21:40

football games. One of your soccer games. Oh

21:42

my God, but honestly mate, it was spectacular

21:45

football. I've never seen

21:48

football like it. It was just, I

21:50

agreed with Jamie Carragher on Sky Sports when

21:52

he said he didn't think we'd seen football

21:54

like this at this level. It was absolutely

21:57

brilliant. Anyway, I was walking

21:59

around. the city centre and walking

22:01

right in the city centre where there are

22:03

lots and lots of relatively

22:06

new houses right in the middle of the

22:08

city centre. Little kind of

22:10

semi-detached houses where families are having

22:12

very great existences in Liverpool and

22:15

many of those houses were built

22:18

as part of a planning

22:20

that Hatton and Milliton pushed through. But

22:22

in doing so brought the city to

22:24

its knees financially, you know, and bankrupted

22:28

Liverpool. So I don't

22:30

think you can say they

22:32

were good for Liverpool but I

22:36

do understand why they came to prominence at the

22:38

time, why there was a lot of empathy

22:41

for what they were trying to do within

22:43

a city that was on,

22:45

as we say in the north-west, on the bones

22:47

of its arse and no one cared. Do you

22:49

think that he was, for

22:52

all the problems and the ideological craziness and

22:55

all the rest of it, there was a

22:57

sense in which he was a sort of

22:59

forerunner of the mayoralities? Oh definitely,

23:01

yeah. You know, what Andy Burnham is now

23:03

doing legitimately. Hatton was doing in a kind

23:06

of haphazard and... But they took it by

23:08

the scuff for the net and they said,

23:10

well no one else is going to do

23:12

it, we'll do it. And of

23:15

course that was intolerable to Margaret

23:18

Thatcher and it was actually... And

23:20

Jimmy Kinnick. And it was intolerable to Neil Kinnick

23:22

as well. The Labour Council. And see, shuttling her,

23:25

scuttling her around in the team. And

23:27

I'll tell you, you listen,

23:29

it's taxi. Was

23:33

it Eric Hephour that marched off the stage when

23:35

he said that? Yes it was, it was, yeah.

23:37

And Hatton at the back shouting, Liar. That's right,

23:39

that's right. I mean, I've met Derek Hatton a

23:41

couple of times. Really? Yeah. And

23:44

I've actually worked with his son, Ben,

23:46

who was a digital website producer. Hatton must

23:48

be in his mid-70s now, I suppose. And

23:51

I think he owns... I think he

23:53

might be completely wrong here, but I

23:55

think he lives in Turkey and he's...

23:57

Sorry, in Cyprus, Turkish Cyprus. Right. and

24:00

has got his properties and he's got his permethan.

24:03

But what's interesting about Derek

24:06

and his lad, they're both very

24:08

physically imposing guys. And I

24:10

remember a very good friend of mine making

24:14

a joke to Ben about his

24:16

dad. Ben turning to my

24:18

mate who was no slouch, you know, he was

24:20

a tough lad and saying, you what?

24:23

And my mate kind of recoiling,

24:25

you know, because there

24:28

was a clear physical prowess.

24:30

And I think Hatton in

24:32

his dealings around Liverpool carried

24:35

himself very charismaticly

24:37

and was seen as a

24:39

hero to a lot of people who had nothing, you know.

24:41

And when I used to go

24:43

to school on the train, you'd

24:46

go past the docks and the

24:48

houses around the docks in Bootle and that. And there

24:50

were slums, proper Victorian slums, you

24:52

know. Now Hatton, Liverpool

24:54

was full of houses like that. In many

24:56

parts it still is, you know. And

24:59

there's been a program to eradicate

25:01

those slum dwellings. It

25:03

wouldn't be tolerated in London, but they, you

25:05

know, there's still pockets in Liverpool that are

25:09

poor beyond belief, you know, and need

25:11

investment and development. And that's what Hatton

25:13

was trying to do. I think, funnily

25:16

enough, the European Union did a better job. They

25:18

did a better job, you know, I remember they

25:20

got a lot of money from the EU. Yeah,

25:22

of reinventing Liverpool. And we're both Alan

25:24

Bleezdale maniacs, right? Yes, we are, yeah. Tell

25:27

me this, was GBH, Robert

25:30

Lindsay as Michael Murray, was that fair?

25:32

Was it okay? Well, it was a

25:35

caricature. But was

25:37

it a monstrous caricature? No, I don't

25:39

think so. I suspect, I suspect, Derek

25:41

Hutton would have been quite pleased with it. Dead child's

25:43

fire, yeah. But anybody

25:45

who's in any doubt, Boyz

25:47

from the Black stuff was fair, you know. That

25:50

was, you know, the kind of hopelessness and

25:52

desolation of a city. That was fair. Didn't

25:55

feel like that when you're 10 years old

25:57

growing up in a place. A

26:00

knocking around as a teenager was great fun

26:02

but you know it was of it was

26:04

a place in a whole on it need

26:07

digging out and so. To.

26:09

Answer Robinson's question: thank you in France or

26:11

done it with your next scow surrendering Book

26:13

Any one of my age, I think you'd

26:15

have a lot of sympathy with anyone who

26:17

tried to do anything to take Liverpool Us

26:19

have a hole in those days that's rather

26:21

would I. Wondered. Yeah,

26:24

okay well thank you. Very good question

26:26

break question. right? I see

26:28

the new you pin has recommended East

26:30

and kinds new movie Driveway Dulce we

26:33

did. it's good. Didn't see Matt each

26:35

have a saver. Cohen Brothers still mind

26:37

it's true Grit from Ellen in Bristol.

26:40

Thanks Rather stay Clan Urology. Look how

26:42

is that you Fargo? Yeah,

26:44

I mean think it's good. It's.

26:47

A great movie isn't it? Does it get any

26:49

darker than photo? Will. Last sentence,

26:51

Lots of this question I thought, whoa whoa.

26:54

But. I'm like off got. I think

26:56

our eyes narrowed down to three. a

26:58

guy fargo, no country for old men

27:00

brilliance and and the Big Lebowski? Yes,

27:02

and I'd probably says he doesn't Fargo.

27:05

I'll go to the Big Lebowski just

27:07

because it is the most principally funny

27:09

yeah of this home and a set

27:11

of entered. Tilts. But

27:14

actually, I. Think Fargo

27:16

their best. Fargo is an astonishing film

27:18

that in every way you know if

27:20

Shakespeare was a lot of that is

27:23

riots, what? that he'd ride made fought

27:25

and that's right in our it's got

27:27

his his local but it's It's absolutely

27:30

epic and cactus the strangeness of he'd

27:32

yes ways of America but wonderful performances

27:34

have. An. Email may see

27:36

an absolute door and gristle lot because

27:39

of the way this yet on it

27:41

is just perfect Is About the topic

27:43

of the film is stress a cast

27:46

of so sinuses gonna bizarrely. M has

27:48

spawned a really pretty good spin off.

27:50

yeah Tv series are you up to

27:52

us or who? Defunct is But the

27:55

greatest single scene sucks. But now that

27:57

you mention those threesomes, thompson

28:00

No Country for Old Men, where

28:02

for me, with the, what's

28:04

the actor's name, the psychopath? Yeah, Vibhavar

28:06

Dem. With the cattle, the

28:09

bull, the shotgun, whatever they call it.

28:12

What do they call those things? Well,

28:15

it's an oxygen thing that kills cattle, isn't it? Yes,

28:17

yes, like a hammer. I mean,

28:19

that's the single biggest scene.

28:22

It's one of the great screen

28:24

villains of all time. Amazing. And

28:27

one of the things I love about that

28:29

film is that people sort of wander in

28:31

and out. Like

28:33

Woody Harrelson is on screen

28:35

for only about 10 minutes, but he's fantastic.

28:37

And Josh Brolin, who was the latest

28:40

person to be cast in the key

28:42

figure, the guy who finds the money.

28:44

Yeah. I

28:47

think it's possibly his best performance. Great. And

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