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1:02

This. Book was written from the viewpoint

1:04

of one of the victims of the

1:07

for state and fake science foisted upon

1:09

the populations and their doctors. For.

1:11

Way too many decades, most doctors are

1:13

clueless on a lot of this information.

1:16

The only way to detect anything that

1:18

distress will be able to detect anything

1:20

as if there's at least fifty percent

1:22

blockage in your arteries. At least fifty

1:24

percent. However, Over seventy

1:27

present of all the heart attacks that

1:29

occur occur with less than fifty percent

1:31

of it's like, what are we doing

1:34

here? What's the point? There was a

1:36

study out of Johns Hopkins, not just

1:38

a couple years ago, And. They

1:40

found that seventy four percent of

1:43

doctors seventy four percent do not

1:45

know how to properly diagnosed or

1:48

test for pre diabetes or type

1:50

two. diabetes was like what? And

1:52

it's just such a shame because

1:55

those things are were all the

1:57

major diseases start. Your. Heart Attacks

1:59

years. Drugs, your Alzheimer's your sleep

2:02

apnea, you're going on and on

2:04

and on, your different cancers, blindness,

2:06

amputations, from diabetic neuropathy, and so

2:08

on and so forth. So they

2:11

all start with having some degree

2:13

of diabetic physiology. Annual.

2:16

I thoroughly enjoyed your new book Unholy

2:18

Trinity And to break that down, you're

2:21

using that term to describe carbs, sugar,

2:23

and oils, and we're gonna take some

2:25

time in get into each of these.

2:27

Starting with Carbs, which is a really

2:30

broad category that can describe a lot

2:32

of different things. Let's.

2:34

Talk about when you're using that word

2:37

what you're describing. Okay,

2:39

well ah, I know that. People.

2:41

Are going to sit a card? Sugar oils? What does

2:43

he mean? They're you know? But. You'll. Find

2:46

out the introduction and basically what

2:48

we're looking at. His carbs. We're

2:50

looking at. All. Refined

2:52

and it just really process

2:54

grains which they then turn

2:56

into. Bread. Pasta, Serial

2:58

Crackers, biscuits, waffles, pancakes, ships,

3:01

Pretzels roles, Pizzas and on

3:03

and on that way. Race

3:05

Thirty is in what not.

3:07

Ah, and then we have

3:09

the Candy cane guys. Cream

3:11

soda, fruit juice. A We

3:13

never had any of these.

3:16

And. Then the oils were talking about.

3:18

You know, the vegetable seeds oils.

3:21

Other are few that are okay, you know, like

3:23

authentic olive oil on that kind of thing. Is

3:25

people say when they see the oils? Oh, you mean

3:27

I can have olive oil? Know that? That's why we're

3:30

talking about to Nola. Soybean oil,

3:32

sunflowers, safflower all the. There's about eight

3:34

or nine of them that are just

3:36

deadly. And. Ah, so

3:39

those just the unholy trinity. And

3:41

the subtitle, the Book is.

3:44

How carbs, sugar and oils make

3:47

a spat sick In addicted. And.

3:50

How to escape their grip? How

3:52

carbs sugar in oils mere fat, sick and

3:54

addicted and how to escape their grips is

3:56

what I did was. The book is basically

3:59

what you would call a. Aid.

4:04

Data Evaluation An analysis

4:06

of this. A.

4:08

Nineteen Thirty, the obesity rate was one

4:11

percent. Were. Now approaching sixty

4:13

percent in less than a hundred years.

4:16

In Ninety thirty, the chronic

4:18

illness rate was seven percent.

4:21

Were. Now over sixty percent. Never

4:24

before in human history has

4:26

a population the size gotten

4:28

so fat and so six

4:30

so fast. What? The

4:32

Hell's Happening. right? Its

4:34

ups if you pull the strings. That's why I

4:36

like it in the beginning of the boat. The

4:39

first three chapters I get give the history how

4:41

we got here. How. We got all

4:43

the universe. So many. Refined.

4:45

Carbs and all the packaged foods in the

4:47

supermarket and so forth. and thus the oils,

4:50

how they came in there was none of

4:52

this was in our diet. Prior. To

4:54

one hundred years ago of it's

4:56

and so it's all new to

4:58

these. Evolutionarily. Develop

5:00

meet bodies that we have because.

5:03

As you know, For. Millions of

5:06

years at least confirmed by anthropologists

5:08

and by a walkie all ages.

5:10

What? Two point six to four

5:12

point five missing spears we've been

5:14

eating? Our diet consisted of what

5:16

would detach, kill, and eat knows

5:18

detail. And that

5:20

was. it may be what we'd pick off, a

5:23

binary tree, that kind of thing, but only

5:25

when it was in season. When the berries word

5:27

season, it wasn't all the time. So. Anyway,

5:30

that's that's what I'm talking about When we

5:32

say the carbs, the sugar, and the oils.

5:34

That's the simplified version of it. We can

5:36

dive into each one, of course, And.

5:39

In your you ever really interesting story that

5:41

brought you to writing this book and sharing

5:43

this story the fact that you thought you

5:45

were a healthy guy. And.

5:49

In your early seventies, your health

5:51

scare. Said. Take us back

5:53

there. And. Talk about what

5:55

brought you. To. Getting deep

5:58

into this information, understanding and. Now

6:00

breaking it down for others. Well.

6:02

I almost died of a heart attack. And

6:05

it was a complete and total shock. or because I you

6:07

know, like you say I was. I thought I was a.

6:10

Mister Healthy as it's

6:12

I was slim symptom

6:15

free. I. Was among

6:17

see there's about one or two percent of

6:19

the population There can be. On.

6:21

The lean side and have cardiovascular disease in

6:23

these other com morbidities which I'll tell you

6:25

about That I add that I had no

6:27

clue but the wake up call for me.

6:30

Was. The was the heart attack

6:32

and after a had that I thought

6:34

oh man. See. I

6:36

was fortunate to learn how to study

6:38

well early on. Basically, I'm just a

6:40

lower class street kid from Philly and

6:42

I shouldn't know any of his stuff

6:44

for it's but I was fortunate to

6:47

learn how to study early on. I.

6:49

Learned how to. Only

6:51

things that are interested in. I mean I

6:53

wasn't like a. Wonderful! Class

6:56

A Student Grade A Student through with her

6:58

everything. But if I was interested in something

7:00

you couldn't keep me from, it's because I

7:02

was able to master. The

7:04

use of dictionaries, Because.

7:07

If you don't know the terminology or

7:09

the nomenclature, You. Get

7:11

nowhere. And. Are Whether

7:13

you're studying medicine or law or whatever,

7:15

you just reading the newspaper and you

7:18

read something like the deficit or does

7:20

the deficit I don't know what that

7:22

is. You gotta use the dictionary and

7:24

these days we get these things called

7:26

the you know we have this of

7:28

visa Hey Siri What's the definition of

7:30

the word cardiovascular? Oh this is what

7:32

I found it. A what's the definition

7:34

of the word catheter. And

7:36

so you can find. Although that's easy

7:38

I used to I would go through

7:40

the painstaking process of using the dictionary,

7:42

but it was very valuable to me

7:44

because that way. Because. What happens

7:47

even with people now when they're

7:49

reading a book? If

7:51

they don't know a certain word they're not

7:53

going understand the sense is just kind of

7:55

like if you don't know the nodes you

7:57

can't whistle but to nursing to tune. If

8:00

you don't know the nerf the the nomenclature

8:02

of the terminology or certain word the you

8:05

think you might know. You're.

8:07

Not going understand sentence to knock on understand

8:09

paragraph your eyes are to get the bottom

8:11

of the page to go. On.

8:13

Blame for that I just reached. You get to

8:15

go back to find out where you were, door

8:17

case or.bad my god that like got that or

8:20

not sure. I know what the word and Ophelia

8:22

means. All. Jc clear that

8:24

ups and it's a painstaking process, but

8:26

the more you do it. The.

8:29

Less you have to do it

8:31

because you are cavalry just goes

8:33

through the roof your eyes. You

8:36

goes way up. And. You

8:38

are able to understand a lot more and

8:40

that's why I think it's one of the

8:42

keys to life. And. Living this

8:44

because. You know throughout our lives

8:46

will be being hit with all these different things Whether

8:48

it's a form you gotta fill out. You. Know

8:50

all that kind of thing. but I'm so

8:52

anyway. I was able to be fortunate enough

8:55

to dive into that, learn all those things,

8:57

And. I I so I had early on I

9:00

I had the I'm. I

9:02

went to You Tube university and Google

9:04

university and saw these books and everything

9:07

because I decide to hate. I.

9:09

Wanted to have on where the find out about

9:11

all these different tests and I did. Because.

9:14

I wanted to because my doctors say you know I

9:16

had just passed up. A stress test

9:18

with flying colors numbers and I found

9:20

out I should come back to that

9:22

to tell you why those are not

9:24

recommended by me or you know a

9:26

lot of medical doctors. And

9:30

it was. So I went through the all that.

9:32

and then I decided to get a lot of

9:34

testing done sorted of a benchmarks orchid measure my

9:37

progress. you know, six months down the line? a

9:39

year? sort of. Oh yeah, I'm really make some

9:41

progress. I'm doing the right things. And

9:44

then I found all these. Medical.

9:47

And nutritional geniuses on the

9:49

cutting edge of medical nutritional

9:52

science. And I started.

9:55

Finding out the true information

9:57

because looked, All.

9:59

over Yes, including our doctors have been misled

10:02

for decades by some of the most

10:04

flagrant scientific frauds of our times. The

10:07

notion that saturated

10:09

animal fat eating that is going

10:11

to cause heart disease and cancer

10:13

is crazy. It's

10:15

what we've been eating all the time, for millions

10:18

of years. In

10:20

fact, the very first heart attack, I mean, now it's

10:22

the biggest killer as you know, the very

10:25

first heart attack wasn't officially medically

10:27

recorded until 1912. It's

10:30

like, what? Now, it's our

10:32

biggest killer and you know,

10:34

cancer is number two. In

10:36

1900, I have all this in the book too.

10:38

So in 1900, you know, people

10:41

died of infectious diseases,

10:43

tuberculosis, pneumonia, that kind of

10:45

thing. And it wasn't until the

10:49

50s where it became, you know,

10:52

heart disease, cardiovascular disease. And

10:54

it's really interesting that that's

10:57

where all the fake science started.

10:59

You probably know of Ansel Keys, right? See

11:03

in 1955, our president Eisenhower, he had

11:05

a heart attack and a lot

11:08

of men were being taken in the prime of their life.

11:11

And it was like, what's going on here? And so he

11:13

came up with this theory

11:16

called the diet heart hypothesis, which said that it

11:18

was the butter and the meat and cheese and

11:20

everything that was clogging up the arteries. And he

11:22

gave this image of kind of like it was

11:24

like a shower drain, you know,

11:26

where it's, you

11:29

know, the hair and the gook and the grease and all

11:31

that and it clogs up there. And it's not like that

11:33

at all. In fact, the

11:36

plaque that builds up is sub endothelial. In

11:38

other words, it's beneath the artery wall. So

11:40

he had it all wrong. But

11:42

anyway, he was a very, he

11:46

turned out to be unethical, but very

11:48

influential because he, you

11:50

know, I show how his science

11:53

was really backwards back then.

11:56

And, And decades later,

11:58

they found out that. The.

12:00

Reason why people were falling over from

12:02

heart attack so much by the nineteen

12:04

fifties. Is because of

12:07

the epidemic to smoking. You.

12:09

Then discovered this decades later when they found

12:11

they discovered they had this thing called Microscope

12:13

Beats were you know you snake up this

12:16

teeny tiny camera see could see what's going

12:18

on in their right me arteries. And.

12:21

What happened what happened back then was

12:23

that see smoking destroys was called the

12:25

glycol tail x What is that? Biblical.

12:28

Tale was his first like lining

12:31

of the artery wall that acts

12:33

as the first line of protection

12:35

against small dance Ldl particles which

12:38

are the ones that cause that

12:40

can get in underneath the artery

12:42

wall. Big. Gather and

12:44

get stuck in this place called the

12:46

Into My Media space. And.

12:49

Eggs Over time they create. A

12:51

plaque buildup. And.

12:53

Dashwood causes your heart attacks and

12:55

strokes. It's. Know the

12:57

small, then sell the L particles souls

13:00

you're almost smoking. Went down with his

13:02

theories and everything from the fifties and

13:04

sixties, but an Earl by the late

13:06

sixties and Ninety seven, these. Big.

13:09

Food to name with all his

13:11

low fat, nonfat but high carb.

13:13

So I spoke to her for

13:15

food and so. What's.

13:17

The next. Deadlier

13:20

version of this destruction of the

13:22

glad to calix the carbohydrates from

13:24

grains and sugars. They destroy the

13:26

guy for jellies. Even worse than

13:28

smoking some weed Replace smoky which

13:31

destroys this glycogen alex which is

13:33

of a protective thing in our

13:35

arteries and replace it with. The

13:37

you know. Be. Deadly. Sugars

13:41

in carbs from these non fat. Non.

13:44

Are low fat foods in seventies and then

13:46

we can and then they came out with

13:48

the arm as you know what is will

13:50

be us dietary guidelines with the pyramid. And.

13:53

Date coincident. With.

13:56

That. In the seventies to see the

13:58

graph of the old obesity the a goal

14:00

like this for a fix it so is

14:02

just so crazy when you find out all

14:05

this true information is just mind blowing and

14:07

I that's why I had to write it.

14:09

I thought. I

14:12

tried as the was so much but

14:14

it blew my mind, and I thought

14:16

well if I can capture as many

14:18

times as I went, what are you

14:20

kidding? It's. If I could get

14:22

those moments as I had in the book

14:24

for the reader so that they could share

14:27

that and get their mind blown to. I

14:29

tried to do that too because most people

14:31

that you know they don't know any of

14:33

this information and I think the reason why

14:35

I lasted so long without having the heart

14:38

attack is because I would always make it

14:40

to the gym. And

14:42

sort Lisa had that don't for me. right?

14:45

So but anyway, I'm that's what

14:47

happened near with the history. I

14:49

have all that and chapter one

14:51

and two and so forth. So

14:53

it's a got insofar as the

14:55

smoking and neglected tail a son,

14:57

the carbs, sugar and oils and

14:59

then what happened after that with

15:01

the obesity risks excuse me, the

15:03

obesity rates which is now leading

15:06

to the demilitarization of are you

15:08

know our country because. I.

15:10

Think it's something like I can remember.

15:12

The exact figure is simply sixty or

15:14

seventy percent of the young people between

15:17

eighteen and twenty four do Not qualify.

15:19

For. The military because the main

15:22

reason is the reader overweight or

15:24

obese as like what. So.

15:27

We're We're the young people gonna come

15:29

from to save us from the next

15:31

natural disaster were defend us from an

15:34

enemy. So anyway that's gonna concerning to

15:36

sell. Or let's start

15:38

to give practical here with

15:40

the oils, the carbs and

15:42

the sugar. And for

15:44

somebody that wants to take this on and

15:46

right now they're eating a standard type diet.

15:49

Talk about what was the first shift you made.

15:52

And. Also what you recommend a people to

15:54

do this in a sustainable way. Will.

15:57

yeah you can't do everything all at once you

15:59

have to do you have to do

16:01

it on a gradient little by little.

16:03

Otherwise, you'll fail. Because I

16:05

recommend in the book to

16:08

eat an ancestral diet, just like a

16:10

lot of the geniuses that you've had on your channel,

16:14

an ancestral diet. What is that? That

16:16

was always throughout recorded

16:19

history, and even non-recorded

16:21

history for millions of years, was

16:23

a high-fat, low-carb diet.

16:27

We did intermittent fasting because we were lucky

16:29

to eat once a day. There was no

16:32

such thing as three

16:36

meals a day plus three

16:38

or four snacks. That's crazy.

16:40

In chapter one, I get

16:43

into the whole, you got to understand the people

16:47

need to understand the two

16:49

most fundamental processes in

16:51

the utilization and input of the

16:53

food that you put in your mouth.

16:55

That is glucose and insulin. You

16:58

put food in, your glucose goes up,

17:00

and insulin is secreted by the pancreas to

17:02

keep it in balance. If it's a little

17:04

too high, it brings it down, that kind

17:06

of thing. That's a perfectly

17:09

workable thing. But if you're eating multiple

17:11

times a day and you're eating the

17:13

wrong foods that shoot sky

17:16

high, shoot the blood sugar sky

17:18

high, you're going to be pumping out that

17:20

insulin like crazy, and you're going to create

17:23

what's called hyperinsulinemia, which is just

17:25

a fancy technical term. It

17:28

just means too much insulin in the

17:30

blood. Hyper too much insulin, emia

17:33

means in the blood. Hyperinsulinemia is

17:35

what leads to inflammation. Even 20 years

17:37

ago, it was a 2004 Time Magazine, had

17:44

a cover story. What is it? The

17:47

secret killer or the silent killer.

17:50

The connection between, I'm paraphrasing that

17:53

with something like the connection between

17:55

inflammation and heart disease, cancer,

17:57

and the heart disease. It's a very, very important thing. It's

17:59

a very important Alzheimer's, blindness,

18:01

I mean, it goes on and

18:03

on because the hyperinsulinemia, what happens

18:05

is it leads to prediabetes

18:10

and type 2 diabetes. That's what it

18:12

leads into. That's why you have, and then

18:14

you have your obesity come on. The first sign

18:16

of being prediabetic or type

18:19

2 diabetic is being overweight or obese.

18:21

But like I said, there's a small percentage

18:24

of the population, like 1% or 2%, that

18:26

can be on the lean side and still

18:28

be diabetic. That

18:30

was me. I

18:33

was a raging type 2 diabetic and

18:35

I didn't know because there's no symptoms,

18:37

right? There's no symptoms for any of

18:39

these things. I was like Dr. Peter

18:41

Rettia. He got

18:43

his type 2 diabetes from drinking so

18:45

much Gatorade and he was like an

18:47

incredible athlete with all the triathlons and

18:50

all that. I

18:53

got mine from eating way too many

18:55

carbohydrates because I didn't know that, see,

18:58

I was totally sold

19:00

on the propaganda and the

19:03

BS of heart healthy whole

19:05

grains. Air quotes, heart

19:08

healthy whole grains because I didn't know that these

19:10

grains, they turn into sugar when you put

19:12

them in the body. I mean,

19:14

wheat raises the blood sugar

19:16

higher than table

19:19

sugar. It even raises it higher than a

19:21

Snickers bar. It's

19:23

just crazy and people don't know any of this

19:26

information. That's why I wrote the book. I

19:30

said I need to write this for like

19:32

Uncle Joe or my brother Dave who are

19:34

not technically inclined. I

19:37

mean, I'll tell about the study. I'll say this

19:39

many people over this many years and this is

19:41

what they did and this is the results. So

19:43

stop doing that thing. Stop eating that thing. I'm

19:46

putting that in your mouth because this is the dangerous result

19:49

that you will get. My

19:52

book has more scientific references

19:54

and Citations than any

19:56

other book out there. The

20:00

dead backed up right knee even in the beginning to

20:02

block. right? After

20:04

the introduction to have a page says important

20:06

note. As a look I

20:08

know you might be say game. Without.

20:11

Formal. University

20:13

credentials and Medicine Organic Chemistry.

20:15

Why? I also. Don't

20:19

None of this is daniels opinion. None of

20:21

this is my but this is all. Randomized.

20:24

Controlled trials, Met and Aussies. This is what

20:26

the best of what. Twenty. First

20:28

century science has to offer for

20:30

your health and wellness and longevity.

20:33

Use. And six yourself I did.

20:36

You. Can to. Daniel.

20:38

I want to highlight something brought up

20:40

there the insulin resistance which is such

20:43

a court the me or book. the

20:45

fact that the issue starts were having

20:47

too many carbs are having them too

20:49

frequently. Causing. That glucose

20:51

a spike in the body causing

20:53

insulin despite. And. Then you took

20:55

it to the next step and talked about the

20:58

inflammation which leads to the chronic disease. Just a

21:00

really important concept that we're going to keep coming

21:02

back to throw out attack. Yeah.

21:04

Absolutely well. As the thing is is

21:07

that now this was not my discoveries.

21:09

A Again, this is. I'm not the

21:11

scientists. I'm a citizen scientists. But I

21:14

am not a doctor Or the the

21:16

scientists. I'm able to read anything just

21:18

like any doctor can. Ah,

21:20

I may have to look up more words

21:23

and say each issue, but ah, it's not

21:25

a barrier to me and I learned a

21:27

lot from. All. These

21:29

geniuses that I found online. Whether it's

21:31

doctor. Robert Lustig

21:34

or Jason Song or I've heard

21:36

comments and all be superstars of

21:38

metabolic health. And. With the proper

21:40

human diet is right. And because I didn't

21:43

know any of this, I was just like

21:45

the average person eating to. Sad. Sad.

21:47

As a D standard American diet and I

21:49

was buying all the things. You know, you

21:51

hear all these the news, it's like oh.

21:54

This is bad for your one week but it's

21:56

good for you that next week and it allows

21:58

just like everybody the else and I didn't know.

22:01

And so I'm. You. Know.

22:04

I sound all these people and I

22:06

just I looked. I read their books,

22:08

I looked at your studies or watch

22:11

their videos and I. Looked

22:14

up anything that I needed to look up

22:16

on. I got all these studies that I found.

22:18

I even use some of the ones that

22:20

they used. Selected proved to people

22:22

of this is really the way it

22:25

is and you have been bamboozled. Along.

22:28

With our doctors and everybody else does

22:30

the doctors say you know they don't

22:32

learn anything about nutrition in medical school.

22:34

They may get a few hours if

22:36

it's if right. And the oh it's

22:38

funny. I was on a young. I

22:41

don't know if you've had him on

22:43

yet but Dr. Phil of Bavaria yeah

22:45

he's a cardiologist. Oh yeah, we know

22:47

who I'm talking about then that would

22:49

you? Not only are cardiologists, he's a

22:51

cardio thoracic surgeon is done like what

22:53

over three thousand heart operations and even

22:55

if we got into this on his

22:57

podcast he had me on knob or

22:59

not but six weeks ago or something

23:01

and he said he asked me a

23:03

question it was valves validating to me

23:05

but also very revealing says it's something

23:07

like how was it it you as

23:09

a non physician were able. To figure this

23:11

all out. And. Ninety nine

23:14

percent of doctors either can't or won't.

23:17

And. I'm thinking wow, what a question that is.

23:19

So we explored. Dad and I have a ceiling

23:21

Now I haven't done any. Surveys

23:23

of doctors, but I have a feeling that

23:25

I think this might make sense. I

23:29

think they think they have the mentality that well

23:31

as they didn't. You see to me, a medical

23:33

school must not be that important. Or.

23:36

I shouldn't need to know about nutrition and

23:38

what people are eating or because I wasn't

23:40

taught that in medical school so must not

23:42

be that important. Then. I

23:45

say. Well. When.

23:47

You take little poo to your dog to

23:49

do. that was the first question they ask.

23:51

You are one of the first versus when

23:53

you're feeling a little bit pushy. So when's

23:55

the last and you had any doctor su

23:57

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24:00

There's an app and are you getting to the

24:02

gym? Are you walking? Are you you know? Are

24:04

you moving? What's what's going on there? So. I'm

24:07

a were just reminded me of that dog,

24:09

that thing that he came up with. and

24:11

so that's what I said. I don't know.

24:13

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27:01

want to take some time now and get

27:03

into the nuances of this unholy

27:05

trinity and coming back to

27:07

the carbs again this is

27:10

such again a broad term for

27:13

somebody who's new to this. Are

27:15

we talking about fruit, whole grains,

27:17

or just when the carbs have been

27:20

processed? No we are

27:22

talking about whole grains and fruit too. It's

27:24

just that you have to I mean

27:27

that's why the popularity of the carnivore

27:30

diet I mean I'm not carnivore I do keto

27:33

with intermittent fasting and

27:36

so on. I have a chapter 14 gives exactly what I

27:38

do because people are asking me so what do you do

27:40

how did you get your 26 pack at 75 you

27:42

know and so I tell them exactly what

27:44

I do and the book tells all this

27:47

it's low carb it's just an ancestral diet

27:49

I mean just let's face it what

27:51

we ate for millions of years at least hundreds

27:53

of thousands right especially this

27:56

version of our humanoid bodies at least 300,000

27:58

they've very The

28:00

reply. It's. What we

28:02

could catch Killing he knows sale. right?

28:04

So was a high fat, low

28:07

carb diet because the carbohydrates. Like

28:10

I said that we we might be able to pick

28:12

some berries off the tree, but only when it was

28:14

in season. And so as it

28:17

is only keep that moderate resides in

28:19

blueberries causes low glycemic, low lessons, that

28:21

kind of thing. I'm but

28:23

that's the only fruit priests. And

28:26

is killed me too because I'm a broke

28:28

my heart when have found out that there

28:30

are some stuff foods that you just said

28:33

guys stay away from this is so filled

28:35

with sugar like pineapple. And.

28:37

Was yellow and pineapple and watermelon. Oh

28:39

my God. Those are my two favorites

28:42

that I find out the get more

28:44

Sir Griffith points able sugar right? and

28:46

then you find out and wheat has

28:48

more raise your blood glucose higher than

28:50

a snickers bar. Ah,

28:53

Then. It's like okay, so I get

28:55

it now will? Dot. Is processed food

28:57

and everything but it does include the others

29:00

are you gotta keep. Ya. To keep

29:02

it at a it's a high fat. In

29:04

a want to say hi scientists have a healthy set. And.

29:07

I try to. Steer people

29:09

away from the t foes. Bob. Schieffer.

29:13

Was see a F O meet.

29:16

Concentrated. Animals for seeding

29:19

or operation. Concentrated animal feeding

29:21

operations and this is a

29:23

sad situation where you have

29:25

an animal. That. They

29:27

put into a space

29:29

and. They so job them

29:31

into acquiescing compliance. There they are for

29:34

the rest his allies as where they

29:36

edens shit and the stuff that they

29:38

eat is really bad or seed as

29:40

Gm. All and there's pumped up with

29:43

antibiotics and all kinds of wild stuff

29:45

needed the glyphosate so try to steer

29:47

people away from those kind of meats

29:49

right? Like. It's your while you're

29:51

fast food places in everything that I try to steer

29:53

him in the direction of. What?

29:56

is the result of regenerative farming

29:58

which is your grass fed pasture-raised

30:00

beef, wild-caught salmon.

30:02

You don't want to get the farm caught because that's

30:05

where you got a lot of

30:07

poisons in there. Um, and

30:09

that kind of thing, pasture-raised, uh,

30:11

organic eggs. So it costs a

30:13

little more, but the

30:16

bonus is that when you eliminate the snacks

30:19

and all the bad stuff, you

30:22

can more easily afford to buy the

30:24

grass-bed pasture-raised beef,

30:27

eggs, wild-caught salmon. Costco

30:30

has a lot of these things. It's like,

30:33

it's amazing. You know, they've got the,

30:35

they got the wild-caught salmon. They've got

30:37

a lot of really good organic, um,

30:40

uh, foods there where you can

30:42

not have to spend a lot of money. So

30:44

I see your people in that direction of the

30:46

ancestral way of eating and also doing some intermittent

30:48

fasting. And because, and I have all that in

30:50

the book, as you know, I have a chapter

30:53

eight. It's all about the science behind it.

30:55

Why does it work so well? Why do

30:58

our human bodies respond so well to it?

31:01

Uh, and that kind of thing. So what

31:03

I do is I recommend people first not

31:06

go overboard. If you're the average

31:09

person, you're eating three meals a day, plus three or

31:11

four snacks, the first thing you got to do is

31:13

get rid of the snacks and

31:15

you go by one, one by one, get

31:17

rid of one snack, they get two snacks

31:19

and the easiest way to get from point

31:22

A to point B, meaning from one meal

31:24

to the next without indulging in a snack

31:27

is you load it up on a, with a healthy fat

31:30

because fats are very satiating and

31:33

they fill you up and you feel more satisfied

31:36

and that way you can more easily get

31:38

from lunch to dinner and

31:40

that kind of thing. So you want to

31:42

have some eggs or beef

31:45

or whatever, uh, animal food

31:47

you want there. And

31:49

so you eliminate the snacks and then

31:51

you want to, the first thing you

31:53

want to do is eliminate breakfast because

31:56

most people are not hungry in the morning anyway,

31:59

and they eat out of. habit. And

32:02

believe me, big food has lots

32:04

of, you know, bagels and fruit

32:06

loops and pop tarts

32:08

and everything to sell you. So all

32:10

of that is available to you. But you

32:14

know, you got to eliminate all that because that's you

32:16

got to have the wake up call. But unfortunately, I

32:18

think most people are not to a

32:20

point where they're they've

32:22

reached need of change or demand

32:24

of improvement of themselves. They haven't

32:26

had some kind of because

32:29

they have no symptoms. That's

32:31

why I encourage testing in the book, you have to

32:33

test. And I asked, as

32:36

you know, by now, Dr. Ford Brewer,

32:39

he is like,

32:41

you know, an internationally acclaimed preventive medicine

32:43

expert out of Johns Hopkins. And I got

32:45

in touch with him and I because he

32:47

know he's a genius in all the testing,

32:49

right? But your average doctor

32:52

has no idea what are you know, what

32:54

they should be testing. And

32:56

I asked him to write what turned out to

32:58

be chapter 22. And what that is, it's the

33:01

most important blood tests and

33:03

labs that anyone can

33:06

get. But your doctor, if you

33:08

asked him for it, you

33:10

might say, you don't need that. You

33:13

don't need that. And the only reason he's

33:15

saying that is because he doesn't know

33:17

what it is and wouldn't know how to interpret

33:20

it anyway. Right. So and

33:22

he and doctors are not don't want

33:24

to get homework from patients,

33:26

right? They don't want to have to find these

33:28

things out. So if you can't get it done,

33:31

you can all I show how you can get

33:33

it online. There's several labs where you can buy

33:35

it inexpensively online without needing a doctor's prescription. That

33:39

way you yourself can find out if you've

33:41

got something lurking or ready to pounce, or

33:44

you're just fine, or somewhere in between

33:46

and needs attention. You Hey,

33:48

I need to check out why my so and

33:50

so is elevated. What is that? And

33:53

so you get these tests and it way

33:55

works is very simple. You

33:58

online I have all the states

34:00

I recommend. There's request to test.com. There's

34:02

life extension.com. And I don't have any

34:04

connection to any of these companies. And

34:07

you look at their menu, and

34:09

you find out from my book or

34:12

Dr. Ken Berry's book, okay, I need to get

34:14

that test, because my doctor doesn't want to order

34:16

for me. And he doesn't know what is anyway.

34:18

So I need to get that. So you pay

34:21

for it. The

34:23

company emails you a form, you print it

34:26

out, you take it

34:28

to your local lab, which is

34:30

either a lab corp or quest

34:33

diagnostic diagnostics. And

34:35

there are thousands of those all over the place, by

34:37

the way, so they won't be far from

34:39

you. And that way, they

34:41

draw the blood. And then when they're a

34:43

couple few days, you get your results. And

34:46

that way you can see, hey, I'm okay.

34:48

Or listen, I'm, I got

34:50

to go to the specialist that covers this. So

34:52

let me find out why is my

34:54

GGT elevated? That's gamma-glutamil transferase.

34:57

That's a liver enzyme, which

34:59

is extremely important that

35:03

most doctors don't check. And

35:06

I was discussing this with your

35:08

colleague, Dr. Ken Berry.

35:11

And they don't leave it out. They only check

35:14

this other liver enzyme if they check any at

35:16

all. And the GGT, the

35:18

reason why that's so

35:20

important is because here's

35:23

the deal. Life insurance

35:25

companies, they got to

35:27

know who to reject, who

35:29

to accept. They're not so interested in

35:32

medical science. They're just interested in

35:34

the bottom line. Who do we accept? Who do

35:36

we accept? And who do we

35:38

reject? And their number

35:40

one predictor of all cause

35:42

mortality is having

35:44

elevated GGT, gamma-glutamil transferase. And

35:47

you think, why

35:49

doesn't the medical field know this?

35:51

If the life

35:53

insurance companies know this, why don't you know? So

35:56

Anyway, we go into all that and you

35:58

have to check that because. That's.

36:00

The Key: That's what made me find

36:02

out that I had non alcoholic fatty

36:05

liver disease and a F L D

36:07

non alcoholic fatty liver disease. And.

36:10

That is detected through this gg

36:12

t. And as their number

36:14

one predictor of all cause mortality. So if

36:16

you've got elevated Gg T. That's.

36:19

That's pretty deadly. And then I

36:21

found studies that show that the

36:23

Gg a beloved having elevated Gg

36:25

t is very closely related to.

36:28

Cardiovascular. Disease and it was

36:30

a while ended the epiphany started having.

36:33

That's why I had a heart attack.

36:35

I had this and was off because

36:37

of my type two diabetes because. Type

36:41

Two diabetes. You. Know.

36:44

That is the biggest killer

36:46

of even juicy farm retires

36:48

leaders. God of heart disease.

36:50

Heart attacks, Strokes a Be

36:52

Traditions, blindness, cataracts, Sleep

36:55

Apnea, certain cancers on and on.

36:57

Pc aware, polycystic ovarian syndrome which

36:59

I have a whole chapter or

37:01

that as well as so. It's

37:04

a silent epidemic. Here's the killer. With.

37:08

Regard to testing. The.

37:10

Was a study out of Johns Hopkins?

37:12

not be just a couple years ago

37:14

and they found that seventy four percent.

37:17

Of doctors. Now

37:19

we're talking cardiologists, internists,

37:22

and. General. Practitioners seventy

37:24

four percent do not know how

37:26

to properly diagnosed or tests for

37:29

pre diabetes or type two. Diabetes

37:31

was like what. And. I

37:33

was on a lot of a. Podcast.

37:35

With said Dr. Brewer not long ago and

37:38

we were talking about how that's why it's

37:40

such an epidemic. It's a silent epidemic. They.

37:42

Don't know how to test for. Whose.

37:45

What? Most doctors who was built test

37:47

these fasting blood glucose? And

37:49

they'll check in a one see. However,

37:52

you can be in the normal range is

37:54

like I was. And. a

37:56

half be raising type two diabetic producers

37:58

no signs of those symptoms, there's no,

38:01

there's nothing that tells you, Hey, I might have type

38:03

2 diabetes. But my, there's

38:05

a one test that can really tell you, and

38:07

that's why I have it in chapter seven. Uh,

38:10

I called that section, um, the

38:13

most important health tests you've never had. And

38:17

that's because of, you know, it's the root

38:19

source root cause of all these other things.

38:21

Like with me, it was my type 2 diabetes was

38:24

the source cause of my cardiovascular

38:26

disease, my non-alcoholic non-alcoholic fatty

38:28

liver disease, as well as

38:30

my osteoporosis. And

38:32

all the research that I had

38:35

done, because these are all silent diseases, I

38:38

was able to reverse all four of those. And,

38:41

and that's what the book is about how

38:44

I did that. And,

38:46

um, the test, what they

38:48

need to do is do this test called

38:50

the oral glucose tolerance test with insulin. It's

38:53

OGTT with insulin. I covered in chapter

38:55

seven, Dr. Brewer covers it

38:57

in his, um, chapter 22, which is

38:59

all the, what are the

39:02

most important blood labs and scans that you can get. And

39:05

what did it, and doctors don't order it.

39:07

They just don't order it. And

39:10

that is the one, that's the one that I got. Cause like

39:12

I said, after I had my heart attack, I got all these

39:14

tests and I got that one. I thought, well, I

39:17

might be pre-dipet. There's no way I'm type 2

39:19

diabetic, right? And

39:21

my score was way over 200. Uh,

39:23

and that proves that you're in the diabetic

39:25

danger zone, right? Uh, even though

39:27

I was on a, on the lean side. So

39:30

you have to do this test as well as others.

39:33

And um, yeah, like that.

39:37

And this ties back to insulin

39:39

resistance. We were talking about before

39:41

the fact that this can all

39:43

happen basically silently

39:45

over even a decade

39:47

or more. As you

39:50

continue to bring carbs in and

39:52

spike the blood glucose, insulin

39:54

keeps taming that and your body makes

39:56

more and more insulin. You're

39:58

becoming insulin resistant. diabetic and

40:01

eventually diabetic and

40:03

oftentimes you don't find out until you're all the way

40:05

at the end of the spectrum. And

40:08

we talked about before the insulin going up

40:10

over all the years is causing inflammation in

40:12

the body and you

40:14

don't even know it. Oh my God, you

40:16

just that's got to be a

40:18

short on you to what you just said. That's just

40:21

that's a in a nutshell. That

40:23

is what happens and

40:25

people don't know any of this. You know, I mean

40:27

snacking wasn't even a thing prior to 50 or 60

40:29

years ago. We didn't have

40:31

snacks. I mean, when I grew up, yeah,

40:33

it's a breakfast. You had some lunch and some dinner. I was

40:36

there. I mean, once in a while, maybe have

40:38

some ice cream at night or a little thing

40:40

like that. But the snacking was not a thing. People

40:44

are grazing all day long. I think that's what

40:46

they call it grazing, you know, and

40:48

there's certain diet plans

40:51

to lose weight that have you

40:53

eaten five or six times a

40:55

day. It's like, what? These

40:57

bodies were never used to such an onslaught

41:00

of these kinds of foods in

41:02

the amounts and the concentrations of

41:06

the carbs because they're all most

41:08

of them were just refined in the highly

41:10

processed and the sugars and

41:12

let's not forget the high fructose corn syrup.

41:15

That's really deadly. That's what the

41:17

source of my non-alcoholic fatty

41:19

liver disease was. Right.

41:22

And see with that,

41:24

NAFLD, non-alcoholic, because I don't drink,

41:27

no drugs, you know, I'm

41:29

already silly enough as my daughters will

41:31

surely attest. So

41:36

the range is supposed to

41:38

be below 65. Mine

41:41

was 265. It

41:43

was like, what? So I was in big

41:45

danger. I was not long for this world

41:47

with that because, as I

41:49

said, the number one predictor of mortality

41:51

for the life insurance companies is having

41:54

elevated GGT. And

41:56

it takes a while to have it repair. You

42:00

can get through it, but that's

42:02

what I was saying before. You don't have to try all of this

42:04

at the same time. First go low carb,

42:07

start cutting back on the carbs and the sugar,

42:10

and then start eliminating the snacks. And

42:14

then go to two meals a day. See

42:17

if you can do that. And the ketogenic

42:19

diet, which is basically how we were operating

42:23

throughout recorded history,

42:25

was a high fat, low carb. It's

42:29

also known as the never hungry diet. Because

42:33

your fake appetites, they

42:36

disappear because carbohydrates

42:39

don't satisfy appetite. They stimulate

42:41

it. And

42:44

a good example of that is I have this

42:46

chapter, chapter 10. It's called

42:48

Are You a Wheat Addict? And

42:52

that's because first of all,

42:54

we never started eating wheat and grains until

42:56

about 9,000 years ago or

42:59

something in that. And that's like what? That's a

43:02

snap of the finger in the eons of time.

43:04

And there's this thing, and I was

43:06

talking about this with Ken Berry, that

43:09

there's this thing called species adaptation hypothesis.

43:11

That's where when a certain species of

43:13

animal, including us, is used

43:15

to doing something for a very long time,

43:17

that becomes their healthy, adapted way. And

43:20

this is the way we were adapted all

43:23

this time. An example he gave, it was

43:25

funny, Dr. Berry, he says, hey

43:27

Daniel, here's a good example of it. I

43:29

have 70 sheep in the pasture. And he

43:31

does because he's on a big farm now.

43:34

And if somebody came along and said, hey, we

43:37

got this new food that we made up in the factory,

43:40

that these sheep, they shouldn't be eating the grass

43:42

and the wheat. They should be eating this new

43:44

food that Pirena came up with and got a

43:46

patent on. And

43:48

you should be feeding that instead. And

43:51

it's like, oh my god. And people would look

43:53

at you and go, what? Are you crazy? So

43:55

it's the same thing with human beings. We're

43:57

just not used to eating this because all of these

43:59

things ever in the human diet prior to

44:01

about a hundred years ago. And

44:04

so that's why it's just so super crazy. And with

44:06

regard to the wheat, I

44:10

have in chapter 10, I have a picture

44:12

of a skull of a guy. He's a

44:14

hundred thousand years old, well, the skull is,

44:17

and he's got perfect teeth. And

44:20

I asked him the book, do you think he

44:23

had floss or an orthodontist or, you know, brushed

44:26

three times a day? No,

44:29

see what happened was after

44:31

they started eating wheat, about

44:33

9,000 years ago, everything changed.

44:38

They had tooth decay,

44:40

teeth were falling out, the diameters

44:42

of the bones were

44:44

getting smaller and thinner, men shrunk

44:47

five inches, women shrunk three inches,

44:49

all these new diseases were coming

44:51

in. It changed everything.

44:56

And then in the, when

44:59

you move forward to the, was it the

45:01

sixties and seventies, big egg, big egg came

45:03

along and they changed it all because up

45:05

to that point, it grew to shoulder height,

45:09

right? Amber waves of grain and all

45:12

like that. What they did was they

45:14

reconfigured it. They had

45:16

this thing called chemical

45:18

mutagenesis and radiation

45:21

mutagenesis. And that amps up

45:23

this chemical called gliadin, G-L-I-A-D-I-N,

45:25

gliadin, what is that? Well

45:28

gliadin, that,

45:34

it attaches to the opiate receptors of the

45:36

brain. It doesn't get us

45:39

high or relieve pain. What it

45:41

does is makes us crave more of the

45:43

things that have grains

45:46

in them, like the bread, the pasta,

45:48

the cereal, the biscuits, the waffles, the

45:50

pancakes and all that. And

45:52

that's why it's so deadly. And we just, people

45:54

have an addiction to that. And that's why I

45:56

recommend when you're first coming off of those things,

45:58

because they're besides all the. carbs and sugar that's

46:00

in them, because a lot of the

46:03

big food puts a high fructose corn syrup in a

46:05

lot of them. You

46:07

need to amp

46:10

up your B vitamins, drink plenty

46:12

of fluids. It's kind of like you're on

46:15

a withdrawal for a couple of weeks. You will get through it

46:18

and you won't have those cravings anymore. I'm

46:21

telling you, it's just a wonderful experience

46:23

once you get there. You

46:26

don't have the hunger anymore. Like I said before,

46:29

carbohydrates do not satisfy

46:31

appetite. They stimulate it. Throughout

46:34

our conversation here, I'm getting a pretty good idea

46:37

of your diet, what you're eating when you're eating.

46:39

I know your keto and your big

46:42

intermittent fasting. I think at

46:44

this point it'd be good to go through a

46:46

typical day, talk about

46:48

what you're eating when you're eating it. When

46:52

you're in that fasting period, depending on the person,

46:54

I know certain people are allowing certain

46:57

things within that window. From

46:59

your book, I know you make a fatty coffee. Take

47:03

me all the way back to when you wake up. Take

47:05

me through a day and just

47:08

to give us a better picture of what that looks like. Here's

47:11

the deal. I get up in

47:13

the morning, maybe have some water,

47:15

a little bit. The

47:18

only thing that I'll eat all morning is I'll make

47:21

this... I

47:23

have a one 12-ounce mug

47:26

of coffee. It's organic coffee.

47:29

One thing I can mention here, I have all this

47:31

in the book, is that you want

47:33

to go organic when it comes to coffee because

47:35

most coffee, it's

47:38

the most sprayed with pesticide

47:40

crop in the world. If

47:43

you're not having organic, you're getting all that in

47:45

there. You want to always go with organic if

47:47

you can. Sorry

47:49

Starbucks. Anyway,

47:53

you want to do that. I have that. What I

47:55

do is I put in this MCT

47:57

oil powder. put

48:00

in MCT oil, my stomach

48:02

doesn't care for the effect of that.

48:04

So I just get this thing called

48:06

MCT oil powder. It's the oil but

48:08

it's been powderized. And

48:10

what does that do? That does two

48:12

things. It creates exogenous ketones, an exogenous

48:15

from outside the body. It helps create

48:17

ketones, it helps suppress your appetite. And

48:19

I cover why you want ketones active in your body

48:21

in chapter three, I think it is. And

48:24

that's very valuable. So I have

48:26

that and I sit at my desk and I

48:28

drink that slowly over the next, pardon

48:31

me, the next couple few hours while

48:34

I work at my desk, that kind of thing. And

48:37

then I like to do instead

48:39

of the intermittent fasting that they

48:41

normally recommend 16 hours,

48:43

right? I do 18

48:45

a day. So I don't know, because

48:48

I read all of the amazing benefits from

48:50

it, which I have in chapter eight, I

48:52

cover intermittent fasting. And this

48:54

period, this process called

48:56

autophagy. And why it's

48:58

so amazing for the body and

49:01

killing cancer cells and all kinds

49:03

of it's just wow raises your

49:05

HGH. It's just, you got

49:07

to read chapter eight just for that. It's just amazing

49:10

what autophagy does. So I do

49:12

18 hours a day. And then

49:14

what I'll do is mid to

49:16

late morning, I'll go to

49:18

the gym and work out. Because and

49:22

I have all this in chapter nine, which is all

49:24

everything you need to know about exercise is

49:27

in chapter nine. Because when you what

49:30

they found is when you do facet

49:32

exercise, well, first of all, it's been a

49:34

secret to Hollywood trainers for a

49:37

long time to do facet exercise. I mean,

49:39

that's how what's his name, the Wolverine, Hugh

49:42

Jackman, that's how he gets completely

49:44

ripped because he did the 16

49:46

hour intermittent fasting and a low

49:48

carb thing. And then he just got what

49:50

you see. I mean, he just got crazy

49:52

ripped. And, and

49:55

that's what that does. Because what they found is,

49:58

there's a couple of studies that I have in the book called So

50:01

there's this one where they randomized

50:03

control trial that had a group

50:06

that did fasted exercise and the

50:08

other group did, they ate breakfast

50:10

and they follow them over a period of time and they found that

50:13

once it did fasted exercise, lost 300% more

50:16

fat, adipose tissue than

50:22

the other group. 300%, that's huge,

50:25

right? More fat tissue just disappears. And

50:29

so that's the way to go and

50:31

it's easier to do if you're doing

50:33

keto and that kind of thing because

50:35

again, it's also called the never hungry diet,

50:37

right? So I do that, I'll

50:39

spend maybe 60 minutes there and I

50:42

don't go every day because I don't have time for it,

50:44

you know? I'm like you, I'm busy, I got things, places

50:48

to go, people to see and all that kind of stuff,

50:50

mostly in front of my desk. So

50:54

I do that and that really helps a lot. And

50:57

then I'll come back, I'll have my first meal of

50:59

the day which is usually some eggs

51:02

with cheese, maybe some

51:05

crispy bacon, that kind of

51:07

thing. So it's a high fat, low carb. I

51:10

might top it off at the end with a teaspoon

51:14

or so of blueberries. Again,

51:18

low glycemic, low lectins,

51:21

it's kind of, you know, satisfied any sweet

51:23

tooth, not always but I do that. And

51:27

then that'll see me through

51:29

till dinner and

51:31

I'd like to eat beef usually. One time a

51:33

week I'll have the salmon

51:36

but I'll have beef and I'll have, I might

51:39

have once in a while some asparagus which are

51:41

very low lectins and I don't know if your

51:43

audience knows what lectins are but I

51:46

cover that in chapter 11, it's called

51:48

perilous plants and how dangerous all the

51:50

plants can be. I don't

51:52

want to get into that right now. But anyway, so I'll

51:55

have that and then sometimes

51:57

I'll have as a dessert, I'll

51:59

make this low-carb sugar-free

52:03

keto granola that

52:06

I'll put some maybe some berries and

52:09

I'll use this yogurt

52:12

that I make myself. I have the

52:14

whole recipe in chapter 23. It's called

52:18

oh my god I'm still so impressed with

52:20

the research I did on that chapter 23.

52:22

It's called maximizing gut health. Wow,

52:25

the wonders it does for and I got

52:27

a lot of this data

52:30

from Dr. William Davis,

52:33

cardiologist. He wrote a book called

52:35

something several years ago on the

52:38

gut and super god. There

52:40

you go. He's been on the show two

52:42

times. No kidding. Actually three times. He's just

52:44

amazing, right? So I learned a lot from

52:46

him and I have this El Mirai yogurt

52:49

in there but I have all the information

52:51

on why it's important and why you need

52:53

that for your gut because the

52:55

gut is so important

52:57

to the health of the rest of the body.

53:04

You got to get all that in you. I have that.

53:06

Everything, that's kind of like in

53:08

a nutshell what I do every day with regard to

53:11

eating. All right, let me jump in my intermittent fast

53:13

just to get some clarification on a couple pieces of

53:15

that. That was great. When

53:17

it comes to exercising fasted,

53:20

you mentioned coming back and having something

53:22

like bacon and eggs afterwards. Do

53:25

you like to push that fast before

53:28

you break it and have that lunch? So

53:30

you finish your exercise, you're fasted. Do you

53:33

come home and eat right away or do you

53:35

like to push that off a little bit? No,

53:37

no, no. I like to what I the way

53:39

I measure it is I try to make sure

53:41

that I'm finished my dinner completely by 7 o'clock

53:47

and then I know okay 18 hours that's

53:49

1 p.m. the next day. So

53:52

that's how I figured that's

53:54

my 18 hours. So if I get home at

53:56

noon, I'm not eating

53:58

until 1 o'clock. maybe 1230,

54:00

I start putting it all together. I mean, I don't know,

54:02

I just, I never measured that amount

54:04

of time, but that's what I do. I

54:07

try to be done by seven at night so

54:09

that I know that my target is one

54:11

o'clock. And if I have to eat a

54:13

little earlier, big deal. I'm still getting my, at least

54:15

my 16 in, right? So in

54:17

other words, if I have to meet people or

54:20

they're coming over, we're going to have some breakfast or

54:22

something and they're going to do it at noon instead

54:24

of one, no, no big deal. So

54:27

your diet's keto. Are you measuring

54:29

ketones at all? Or are you

54:31

just by the amount of carbs you're taking in

54:33

how you're eating, assuming you're in ketosis? I

54:36

got it down. I checked all that long

54:38

ago. I got a, what do

54:41

you call it? The Freestyle Libre 3. And you

54:45

can just get it for a short amount of time and

54:47

test things out. That's what I did. You can get it.

54:49

It's, you get one and it lasts for 14 days, right?

54:51

Every 14 days you got to get a new one if

54:55

you need that guidance. But

54:57

I was so on top of it, I was, I

54:59

would, I did it so I could test things. Okay.

55:01

So what happens if I eat some rice? What

55:04

happens to this? Because my body's different than your

55:06

body, right? I may not be able

55:08

to metabolize carbohydrates

55:11

as well as you and

55:13

people that have, it depends on the genetics,

55:15

right? So you have to be tuned

55:17

into that. So then I found out all these different

55:20

things like, okay, so I got to avoid

55:22

that and I'm okay with this and

55:24

so forth. And so that's how I did that.

55:26

So I did measure all that and

55:28

I recommended people in the, you know, you can

55:30

buy online. I think

55:32

it's like Amazon. A

55:34

chart you can put on your, you

55:37

know, put up on your refrigerator just

55:39

shows the number of carbohydrates into various

55:41

foods and, and that could be your

55:44

initial guide. Get one of these devices

55:46

like Freestyle Libre. It's the CGM, continuous

55:48

glucose monitor. So you know what

55:51

certain foods and drinks do to your

55:55

blood glucose, whether it's hitting the sky

55:57

high, cause if you know that's happening.

56:00

then your insulin is going to be coming in. You're

56:02

going to be getting hyperinsulinemia, the inflammation,

56:04

the prediabetes, the type

56:06

2 biobates and the insulin. Let's

56:08

not forget the insulin is

56:11

the fat storage hormone. So

56:14

you don't want to have lots of

56:16

insulin pumping through your blood.

56:18

So anyway, like that. All

56:21

right. Let's come back to the microbiome. You're

56:23

a fan of, as you've just said,

56:25

the Dr. Davis wrote our yogurt. How

56:29

else do you look at the microbiome? Because classically,

56:34

when people go to emphasize and

56:37

build up the microbiome, they're looking to have a

56:39

lot of plants, a lot of fiber, diversity

56:42

in color, diversity in plants.

56:46

You've talked about the yogurt piece, but everything

56:48

else that you're doing is

56:50

in contrast to that. So

56:52

talk about the microbiome as a whole. Well,

56:54

first of all, the first thing I want to say is

56:57

that, listen, our

56:59

ancient ancestors, they

57:02

didn't eat a lot of plants and all

57:05

that. And there was no

57:07

such thing as vegans and vegetarians and all

57:09

that. They just didn't exist. And

57:14

they have very healthy microbiomes.

57:16

In fact, they've done testing.

57:18

I'm not sure if Dr. Davis covered

57:20

this or not, but I think maybe it

57:22

was Dr. Paul Saladino where there's certain hunter-gatherers

57:26

that are still existing. There's just a

57:28

handful of them around the planet now.

57:30

And they have amazingly healthy microbiomes. And

57:34

they're not big on plants or that kind

57:36

of thing. So even,

57:38

oh boy. Well,

57:41

you know, chapter four, it's

57:43

called Shattering Myths About Blue

57:45

Zones. Because we've all

57:47

been sold as Bill of Goods that,

57:50

oh well, the blue zones

57:52

are where they have the most centenarians.

57:54

And that's because they're vegetarian. And

57:58

what a complete bunch of BS. that

58:00

is. I cover all that and debunk all that

58:02

in Chapter 4 because just as one example, this

58:06

is Dan Buechner. He's got some good data

58:08

in his books and so forth, but he

58:11

came up with these five blue zones and

58:14

Okinawa, for example, that has the most

58:18

centenarians and super centenarians. Super centenarian

58:20

is somebody who lives beyond 110,

58:22

right? And there's a

58:27

video that you can watch and I tell this

58:29

to the reader. I say, you can watch this

58:31

yourself on YouTube. There's

58:33

a video that he shows. He says, in

58:36

all honesty, the people in the blue zones

58:38

do eat meat, but for

58:40

ongoing blue zone businesses, we decided to

58:42

stay 100% vegetarian. So

58:45

this was like a business decision, right? And so,

58:48

and I even put in parentheses, I say, so

58:51

all this time we've been led to believe that

58:53

vegetarians or the blue zones are

58:55

vegetarian and that is why they had so many

58:57

centenarians because what they did was they did a

58:59

survey on Okinawa and they ate tons of pork

59:01

and fish and everything else. There

59:04

were no vegans and vegetarians found

59:06

amongst any of the centenarians or

59:09

super centenarians. And it's like, whoa,

59:11

you know, so anyway, that's

59:15

a whole other thing. And I don't want

59:17

to mock his work or anything, but if

59:19

you really dig deep down into it, we

59:21

don't need these plants. And I

59:25

mean, not that it's going to

59:27

harm you or anything, but you

59:30

can't just leave those alone. Anyway,

59:32

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you talk about in the book, you actually

1:00:52

had a period of your life you were

1:00:54

a vegetarian. Yeah. When was that and what

1:00:56

did that do to your health? Oh, that

1:00:59

was several years ago. But I you know,

1:01:01

that's, that's the time when I put on

1:01:03

weight. I had ballooned

1:01:05

up to another like I was an extra 10

1:01:07

pounds and I'm starting to get a gut. Because

1:01:10

I don't know. I mean, you know,

1:01:13

I'm sure there are exceptions to this

1:01:15

but every single vegetarian and vegan that

1:01:17

I've met, they eat tons

1:01:19

of carbs. And

1:01:21

it's not always I mean, despite what

1:01:24

they call themselves, they're

1:01:27

eating the chips and the popcorn and the

1:01:29

bread and the pasta and the you know,

1:01:32

all of that is like, you know, they're

1:01:34

pouring that in there. And they

1:01:36

may eat their salads. I mean, I like

1:01:38

salads too. So

1:01:41

but you know, they're just

1:01:43

not eating all of the veggies that

1:01:46

they proclaim that according to their title,

1:01:49

that they say they are and

1:01:51

maybe there are some people who

1:01:53

are doing that but it's very

1:01:55

evolutionarily inconsistent with that with how

1:01:57

these current meat bodies that we all

1:02:00

have are used to eating

1:02:02

for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years.

1:02:06

And that's not my, just my opinion,

1:02:08

but that's what the, anybody that studies

1:02:11

anthropology or bio-archaeology, that's what they'll tell

1:02:13

you, uh, because the

1:02:15

grains and the beans and all

1:02:17

that, those were reserved. You

1:02:20

know, I asked in the book, I have chapter 12, where

1:02:22

I covered the CAFOs that I talked about and

1:02:25

I, you know, I go into the

1:02:27

whole regenerative farming and why that's preferable.

1:02:29

And then I asked, you know, why

1:02:32

is it that the rich, most rich

1:02:34

and powerful elite of the planet are

1:02:36

pushing plant-based diets when

1:02:39

throughout recorded history, those were reserved

1:02:41

for slaves, prisoners, and foot soldiers.

1:02:44

The Romans, they marched on barley. The

1:02:47

elites always had as much as

1:02:49

they wanted. So why is it

1:02:51

that they want us to eat crickets and grasshoppers?

1:02:54

And well, I have this in the book too,

1:02:56

there's a tweet from the WEF, the World

1:02:58

Economic Forum, that's where all this has come

1:03:00

from. These are the most elite, you know,

1:03:03

they're flying into Davos on their own planes

1:03:05

and everything. And they're the ones

1:03:07

that are pushing it on the rest of us. And

1:03:09

they, there's a tweet from them. They says, well, uh,

1:03:12

meat will be available in the future, but

1:03:14

it will be a special treat. I'm

1:03:17

thinking, well, clap. Thanks Klaus Schwab.

1:03:20

What a nice slave master, right? So

1:03:22

it's just so, um, Look,

1:03:25

I don't want to get into a whole political thing, but

1:03:28

it makes you wonder, what are

1:03:30

they up to? Why do they want us, do they

1:03:32

want us overfed and

1:03:34

undernourished and over psych drugs and undereducated

1:03:36

and you know, all these different things.

1:03:38

I mean, wow. So if

1:03:42

you had to guess, what would you say it is? What's underlying

1:03:44

all that? Well, what I think

1:03:46

it is, is, and what I'm almost

1:03:49

a hundred percent sure of is the, their

1:03:53

stated ideal global

1:03:56

population, quote unquote, is 500,000.

1:04:00

We're cluttering things up for them. We're

1:04:03

using all their stuff. It all

1:04:05

belongs to them, right? So

1:04:07

whether it's the jab or

1:04:09

if it's let

1:04:11

them eat shit and die or

1:04:14

whatever it is, the population is

1:04:16

going down and down and down.

1:04:20

And they're dying off sooner. I mean, just in

1:04:22

the last five years, our lifespans

1:04:25

have declined four years. It

1:04:27

used to be, what, 79 for

1:04:30

women and 75 for men, something like that.

1:04:32

Now it's down like four years earlier.

1:04:36

Of course, we had the last few years

1:04:39

of that craziness we went through, but there's

1:04:41

all these other things too. That's why people,

1:04:43

the number one killer is heart disease. V-TAC

1:04:48

especially, V-TAC is short for ventricular

1:04:50

tachycardia, and that is the number

1:04:52

one cause of sudden death. And

1:04:55

that's where it's a

1:04:58

heightened version of

1:05:00

AFib, atrial fibrillation, where the heart is

1:05:02

beating you fast. And what can

1:05:04

happen is you could

1:05:06

just pass out and then you're gone. If

1:05:09

you're not around anyone to wake you up or

1:05:11

to call the EMTs or anything, that's it. And

1:05:15

people are dying left and right. So

1:05:18

anyway, it's depopulation. Look,

1:05:23

I don't know, I'll watch what I'm saying here any

1:05:25

further because I know YouTube, I don't

1:05:29

want the overlords of the World Economic

1:05:31

Forum and YouTube and the World Health

1:05:33

Organization, which YouTube follows, to come down

1:05:35

on your channel because, hey, that Daniel

1:05:37

Trevor said something over there that didn't

1:05:40

fit in with our protocol.

1:05:42

So next time, anyway,

1:05:46

so I don't want to

1:05:48

get into that any further. Just for the safety of

1:05:50

your website, I mean for your YouTube channel. All

1:05:53

right, let's come back to the microbiome. Yeah. So

1:05:55

you've stated fiber, not a concern

1:05:57

when it comes to maintaining a healthy... microbiome,

1:06:01

but you are an advocate of

1:06:03

the microbiome and optimizing that through

1:06:05

the yogurt. Right. What

1:06:08

other things are you doing or avoiding

1:06:10

to make sure your microbiome

1:06:12

is optimal? Well, I

1:06:14

do, since the glutamine

1:06:18

in your diet is really great

1:06:20

for the microbiome, I

1:06:22

like to break my fast, whether it's at my

1:06:26

18 hours, with just like a three

1:06:28

or four ounces of bone broth. Bone

1:06:32

broth, which you can buy at Trader

1:06:34

Joe's, any health food store,

1:06:38

it's loaded with glutamine. So I like to take a

1:06:40

little bit of that down. Not that I'm big on

1:06:43

broths or soups or anything like that, but

1:06:45

in order to coat the

1:06:48

lining and

1:06:50

see, we have

1:06:52

these things called enterocytes in our

1:06:54

gut that act as a barrier.

1:06:57

They're cells, they're single cell, and

1:06:59

it's a barrier between your gut

1:07:01

and the outside world. And if

1:07:04

you get a leaky gut, it starts to

1:07:06

separate and all the toxins can leak through,

1:07:09

and then a lot of

1:07:11

problems can happen. And this,

1:07:13

the glutamine can really help solidify and

1:07:15

bring that together and keep it together.

1:07:18

So that's why I do that. I have that in the book too.

1:07:21

And the good thing about what I have there is I put

1:07:23

together, first

1:07:26

thing you want to do is there are

1:07:28

several places online that you can test

1:07:30

your microbiome to see what you got

1:07:32

going on. There

1:07:35

are different families that you maybe have

1:07:37

too many of, of the CFUs,

1:07:40

colony forming units of

1:07:42

these different bacteria and microbes, and

1:07:44

maybe you have not enough of some. There's

1:07:46

a couple of companies where you can, you send

1:07:49

them a tiny sample of your poop and

1:07:52

they put it through their AI and they

1:07:54

analyze it and everything, they'll send you back

1:07:56

like, hey, listen, you're way over. You've

1:07:58

got SIBO. That's small

1:08:01

intestinal bacterial overgrowth. You've

1:08:03

got this, you've got that, and these

1:08:06

are the foods you should avoid. These are

1:08:08

the foods you should add. Now, I can't

1:08:10

always say that you need to follow their

1:08:12

recommendations, food, because if it doesn't make sense

1:08:14

to you or if it goes against what

1:08:17

you're following, then skip it. Find another way to do

1:08:19

it. But at least you want to get an idea

1:08:21

of, okay, I've got way too

1:08:23

much overgrowth of fungi or this or that.

1:08:26

And that way, you know you've got

1:08:29

work to do because a lot of the diseases and

1:08:32

modernity are originating

1:08:34

down there. I mean, it makes sense. That's where

1:08:36

the food's going, right? And

1:08:39

so like that. You would want

1:08:42

to do some testing. I have what the companies

1:08:44

are. And again, anything in the book that I

1:08:46

recommend, I don't have a financial

1:08:48

connection or interest to in any way. So

1:08:52

you want to get those tests, one of them at least.

1:08:55

And then you know exactly where you stand, just like with

1:08:57

anything, just like you want to get some of the tests.

1:09:00

You want to get the OGTT with insulin

1:09:02

to find out if you're a raging type

1:09:04

2 diabetes like I was. You

1:09:07

know, if you don't know, because there's

1:09:09

no symptoms. There's no

1:09:11

symptoms. And again, like that's that

1:09:13

I told you before, 74% of

1:09:16

doctors don't know how to

1:09:18

properly diagnose or test for prediabetes

1:09:21

or type 2 diabetes. And

1:09:24

it's just such a shame because those

1:09:27

things are where all the

1:09:29

major diseases start. Your

1:09:31

heart attacks, your strokes, your Alzheimer's, your

1:09:33

sleep apnea, your, you know,

1:09:35

on and on and on, your different

1:09:37

cancers, blindness, amputations

1:09:40

from diabetic neuropathy, and so on and

1:09:43

so forth. So they all start with

1:09:45

having some degree of

1:09:47

diabetic physiology. And

1:09:49

that's why your glucose and your

1:09:51

insulin are so extremely important. And

1:09:54

you got to make a 45 minute 45

1:09:56

second or a second short on YouTube with

1:09:58

what you just said earlier. because it's

1:10:00

perfect. Sounds good. So

1:10:02

other than the fermented

1:10:04

yogurt, are you

1:10:07

consuming sauerkraut, kimchi, any other

1:10:09

fermented foods for the microbiome?

1:10:12

I don't, but I recommend those. I

1:10:14

just don't have the taste buds for it. See

1:10:17

what you need to do, one of the

1:10:19

things that I recommend in the book is

1:10:21

that you have to, the first step is

1:10:23

to recognize, okay, I am addicted to this,

1:10:25

this, this, this, and find

1:10:28

out what those things, and there are, you need

1:10:30

to find a substitute for them.

1:10:33

And there are delicious, wonderful, healthy substitutes

1:10:35

for all of those things you're addicted

1:10:38

to. I mean,

1:10:40

YouTube is a treasure trove of,

1:10:42

you know, low carb, healthy recipes

1:10:45

for low carb

1:10:47

keto bread, pasta, cereals, you know, all

1:10:50

the things that you're addicted to. So

1:10:52

right away, make your short list or

1:10:54

long list of things you're addicted to,

1:10:56

whether it's pizza, you can make a

1:10:59

grain free pizza if you, you know,

1:11:01

until you get off of all those things, and

1:11:04

then you make your transition. So

1:11:06

find the substitute right away so that you're

1:11:09

not, because you won't, most

1:11:11

people won't last. They say, oh my

1:11:13

God, how can I, how can I, you know, what am

1:11:15

I going to do? You know, I even joke in the

1:11:17

book, I say, after I tell them all this, they say,

1:11:20

okay, so if you're just finding this page

1:11:22

again, after throwing this book across the room

1:11:24

with a well chosen obscenity

1:11:26

aimed at the author, I

1:11:28

have good news. They're

1:11:31

wonderful substitutes you can have for all these

1:11:33

things you're addicted to. So that's your first

1:11:36

step. You got to find those delicious substitutes

1:11:38

to go, okay, so I'm doing it. And then

1:11:41

while you're doing it, your body is changing, your

1:11:43

taste buds are changing, your palate

1:11:45

will change and over a period

1:11:47

of time, you're not going to even want those

1:11:49

unhealthy things anymore. Right?

1:11:52

So last piece on the

1:11:54

microbiome, how do you feel about probiotics supplements?

1:11:58

Well I guess they're good, but you don't really need

1:12:00

them once you do this yogurt. I'm telling

1:12:02

you, I used to spend a lot of

1:12:04

money on these very expensive probiotics

1:12:09

where you can get them these days in

1:12:11

50 billion.

1:12:14

There are 5 billion, 10 billion, 50 billion.

1:12:16

When I say billion, they're called CFUs, colony-forming

1:12:19

units. But when you make the yogurt and

1:12:21

you just eat a half a cup a day, you're

1:12:24

getting like 260 billion, just in that

1:12:27

one. So you're getting plenty of all that and

1:12:29

it covers all of the, it heals everything else.

1:12:33

I'm just fine with that. So I don't

1:12:35

even bother buying those things anymore. The

1:12:40

yogurt is just really simple to make

1:12:42

too. It takes like five minutes to

1:12:44

throw together. I have all the instructions

1:12:46

and there's three ingredients and

1:12:49

you get them in there and and

1:12:51

it takes and you get an instant pot

1:12:53

or a yogurt maker and you do it for,

1:12:55

you have to ferment it for 36 hours.

1:12:59

And that's the miraculous part of

1:13:01

it because most or if not

1:13:03

all of the yogurts that you

1:13:05

buy commercially, they're only fermented for four

1:13:07

hours to speed up production. Where

1:13:09

you do 36 hours, it's

1:13:12

kind of like it goes

1:13:15

exponentially. It's not until

1:13:17

the last six hours where it goes,

1:13:19

if you look at the

1:13:21

graph, it's going across, they're building the CFUs and

1:13:23

then the last six hours, it goes like

1:13:26

this. And I have a graph that

1:13:28

is just like that, where it shows

1:13:30

that if you double the

1:13:33

penny every day for

1:13:35

a month, you're going

1:13:37

along, going along and you ask the little kids, hey, would you

1:13:39

like me to give you a penny? You

1:13:43

want me to give you a million dollars or

1:13:45

a penny every day for a month? Look

1:13:47

at all the million dollars. If you

1:13:49

double a penny every day, in the

1:13:52

last six days is when it goes from

1:13:54

a hundred thousand something down here, it goes

1:13:57

to 5,360,000. $38,000

1:14:00

and some change and all like that in

1:14:03

the last six days. So it's the same

1:14:05

thing in the last six hours of this

1:14:07

36 hours of fermenting.

1:14:11

That's the same thing kind of happened. So it's I

1:14:14

love that chart. I'm so proud

1:14:16

of it. How many days a week are you having the

1:14:18

yogurt? I do it every night after my dinner. Yeah,

1:14:22

I'll have it with some berries. Maybe I'll

1:14:24

throw in some of my homemade granola. I

1:14:28

found one that was pretty good at Costco. It

1:14:32

was grain-free, sugar-free, low

1:14:35

carb. I can't remember the name of it. So

1:14:37

I don't know. But if you can if

1:14:40

you're good at reading ingredients, you

1:14:42

know, you'll be in good hands. All

1:14:44

right. So we got the diet piece. Yeah.

1:14:47

We got the fasting piece. What about

1:14:49

other supplements? I quickly touched on probiotics

1:14:51

and it sounds like well not sounds

1:14:53

like now you're not having those because

1:14:55

you have the yogurt. Right. What about

1:14:58

other supplements? Well

1:15:00

I make sure I try to get all my basics in.

1:15:03

Even though I get everything that I need from

1:15:05

my meat and my eggs and

1:15:08

my you know my ancestral diet, there

1:15:10

are some things but there are some

1:15:14

vitamins and minerals that a lot

1:15:17

of people are deficient in such

1:15:19

as vitamin D and I

1:15:22

have a section in the book on

1:15:24

that vitamin mineral deficiencies

1:15:26

that the ones that are common. Not everybody

1:15:28

has it. But vitamin

1:15:31

D, certain kind of calciums that you want to get,

1:15:35

that kind of thing. But I'm not big on

1:15:37

taking a lot of supplements. Maybe

1:15:41

some alpha lipoic acid, a few things

1:15:43

like that. I take CoQ10 because I

1:15:45

am a heart patient. Right. And

1:15:48

I have to maintain

1:15:50

as much as I can. See, when you have a

1:15:52

heart attack, anybody that's had a heart attack and is

1:15:55

in my club, when

1:15:57

you have a heart attack, you have permanent damage to

1:15:59

your... your heart. No one

1:16:01

knows I was talking about this with Dr.

1:16:03

Vadia. And you know, no one

1:16:05

knows to what degree or how many weeks, months or

1:16:08

years is going to shave off your lifespan. So I

1:16:10

thought, Okay, so I know I have that. What

1:16:12

is it that I can't control? And I thought,

1:16:15

Well, I can control my metabolic health. I

1:16:17

can try to get into as superior

1:16:19

metabolic health as I possibly can. So

1:16:22

let me do that. And maybe I can, I don't

1:16:24

know, my theory is I can hopefully balance something

1:16:27

out so that I don't lose some of that

1:16:29

lifespan that because of the heart damage that I

1:16:31

do have. And

1:16:33

that kind of thing. But there, you know,

1:16:36

there is something that I would like to cover.

1:16:38

And I don't know if I mentioned this to

1:16:40

you before, there's a couple of studies, large studies

1:16:43

that they did

1:16:45

that it rocked, it totally rocked the

1:16:47

cardiovascular universe and the medical universe, because

1:16:49

they were failures. And I should tell

1:16:51

you about this, I think your audience

1:16:53

might like to hear it. Please, one

1:16:55

is called the ischemia trial.

1:16:57

There were three ischemia

1:17:00

was a large $100 million

1:17:05

federally funded study was about

1:17:07

52 almost 5200 people

1:17:09

that divided them into two groups. One

1:17:12

group got invasive procedures, namely cabbage,

1:17:14

which is CABG that's

1:17:17

coronary artery bypass graft, that's open

1:17:19

heart surgery with, you know, bypass

1:17:21

surgery, or stent

1:17:24

a set PCI percutaneous

1:17:26

coronary intervention, which is a stent. That's

1:17:30

the fancy long term for a stat, right PCI

1:17:32

so and that

1:17:34

and also maybe some, you know, blood pressure

1:17:36

medications, that kind of thing. Well, and then

1:17:38

the other group went direct in the direction

1:17:41

of lifestyle changes, get back to the gym,

1:17:43

stop eating the junk, all that kind of

1:17:45

thing. And maybe some, you know, blood pressure

1:17:47

meds, that kind of thing. And they followed

1:17:50

them closely for four years. And it

1:17:53

was a failure, they found no difference. There

1:17:56

was a ischemia trial failed

1:17:58

to show that, you know, was able

1:18:00

to, because what they wanted, they wanted to

1:18:02

show that this was the shit, this was

1:18:04

the deal. These are the basic procedures as

1:18:06

well. We really got to do because there

1:18:08

was so much revenue generated from

1:18:11

that. And there was another trial called

1:18:13

the Courage trial, similar kind of thing.

1:18:15

There was another one called the Orbiter

1:18:18

trial and they, they're

1:18:20

all failed. And so the headline of

1:18:23

all of it was cabbage

1:18:25

and stents do not prevent

1:18:27

heart attacks. They

1:18:29

don't. No more than, you know, so

1:18:31

if you want to go the direction of your lifestyle

1:18:35

and changes and so forth. So

1:18:37

after they experienced

1:18:40

this truly rocking information

1:18:43

and results from these trials, do

1:18:47

you think that the, these procedures would come

1:18:49

to a halt or at least slow down?

1:18:51

The graph is going like this. And it's

1:18:53

to the point now, I mean, let me make it

1:18:56

clear that these are valuable,

1:18:58

lifesaving interventions

1:19:01

in their emergency situations, right? So if you're having

1:19:03

a heart attack, you've got something else going on

1:19:05

that you're in the hospital for, if you get

1:19:07

the VTAC and those

1:19:10

are lifesaving interventions.

1:19:12

So, but they're only done 15% of the time. The other

1:19:14

85% are done for the prevention with

1:19:19

the cutting your chest open and the stents

1:19:21

and all that kind of thing. So that's

1:19:24

why they're unnecessary 85% of

1:19:27

the time. So I recommended the

1:19:29

book. I said, okay, so now that you know

1:19:32

this, and if your doctor's pointing you in this

1:19:34

direction, you got to bring this

1:19:36

up to him. And that way he'll know that you know.

1:19:40

And secondly, you can ask him, explain

1:19:42

to me again why we're doing this or why you

1:19:44

want me to do this when I

1:19:46

can do this other path and so on and so,

1:19:49

you know, so anyway, just be aware of that. I

1:19:52

have that all in chapter 17. It's

1:19:55

called skipping stents and bypass

1:19:57

surgery. And for

1:19:59

anybody that's really into the cardiovascular. I have chapter 17, 18,

1:20:01

19, and 20 statins. I got the

1:20:05

whole thing in there. It's

1:20:09

remarkable. There was a remarkable study

1:20:11

with regard to the statins. I

1:20:13

think you might like this. There

1:20:15

was this large study, meta-analyses.

1:20:18

It involved 92,135 patients. And the researchers wanted

1:20:21

to know, do statin takers extend their lives?

1:20:28

Because that's your doctor and certainly a

1:20:30

big pharma wants you to do it

1:20:32

once you start. How

1:20:34

much longer do the

1:20:36

statin takers extend their

1:20:39

lives? And they found out

1:20:41

that there were two groups

1:20:45

that were taking it for primary prevention.

1:20:47

In other words, no heart attack yet.

1:20:49

Because there's a lot

1:20:51

of people, there's a lot of guys and women, they

1:20:54

haven't had a heart attack, but they're taking it. They

1:20:57

lived a big three days longer than

1:20:59

those in the other group not taking

1:21:01

a statin. And those in the group

1:21:03

taking statins for secondary prevention. In other

1:21:05

words, they already had a heart attack.

1:21:07

They lived a big four days longer

1:21:11

than the other group taking the statin. So I asked my

1:21:13

readers in the book, I said, you still want to put

1:21:15

up with the nasty side effects of taking statins. And they

1:21:17

can be pretty nasty. Everything from psychosis

1:21:19

to road rage to aches and pains

1:21:22

and all kinds of things. Not everybody

1:21:24

gets those, but a lot of people

1:21:26

do. And so you got

1:21:28

to get the information because

1:21:31

you're not going to get the right information

1:21:33

from your doctors and your, you know, because

1:21:35

they get bonuses for

1:21:37

certain amount of quotas that they make for

1:21:39

all kinds of things. And I don't want

1:21:42

to bad mouth doctors because, you know, a

1:21:44

lot of them, they devote their lives to

1:21:46

saving us, you know, every day they're in

1:21:48

the emergency rooms. They're setting

1:21:50

the bone and suturing up the

1:21:54

wound and they're, you know, removing

1:21:56

bullets and steering wheels from our

1:21:58

chests. Right. So they're heroes,

1:22:00

even my older daughter Chloe is a PA

1:22:02

and she works in the emergency

1:22:04

room. So I love all of them because

1:22:06

they devote their lives to that. But when

1:22:08

it comes to the nutrition or biochemical end

1:22:10

of it, they're pretty

1:22:12

clueless because the medical field doesn't go

1:22:14

in that direction. There's

1:22:16

no profit in that. There's no money in that. So

1:22:19

we touched on supplements. I

1:22:22

know part of your health regime, you

1:22:24

talk about this in your book, is

1:22:26

testosterone injections and B12. Yeah.

1:22:30

Talk about that and

1:22:32

natural ways when it comes to testosterone that

1:22:35

we can help the men boost that if

1:22:37

they need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See,

1:22:39

what happens is I have a whole section in Chapter

1:22:41

14. I don't know if you've

1:22:43

gotten that far in the book. It's probably

1:22:45

eight pages on testosterone because what happens with

1:22:48

us men after the age of 30, I

1:22:51

have a graph that shows, you know, 30 and

1:22:53

then it starts going down. It

1:22:55

starts to decline approximately 1% a year after that.

1:22:59

And by the time you get to my age,

1:23:01

at least, you know, it's really going down. So

1:23:03

for several years, I've been, I found out about

1:23:05

this from another anti-aging doctor. This is prior to

1:23:09

my MI, myocardial infarction, also

1:23:11

known as a heart attack. And

1:23:14

I had been taking it probably 10 years

1:23:16

now or something. It really does make a

1:23:18

big difference. And you don't take it in

1:23:20

large body builder type dosages because, you know,

1:23:22

that can destroy your kidneys and your gonads

1:23:25

and it's just bad news. So you take

1:23:27

it in as little tiny dosages once a

1:23:29

week, once every 10 days, that kind of

1:23:31

thing. And it really does keep your

1:23:34

testosterone there because they found that,

1:23:37

you know, having low estrogen or

1:23:39

low hormones, testosterone,

1:23:42

that attracts the diseases of aging. And

1:23:44

let's see if I have that here. Yeah,

1:23:48

I have 10 testosterone tips in

1:23:51

it because you can do that. You can inject that.

1:23:54

But also I have these 10 tips. Oh,

1:23:57

here it is, testosterone. being

1:24:04

on a ketogenic diet, by the way, you

1:24:07

know, it does a lot for your testosterone levels

1:24:09

and I gave you what the level should be

1:24:11

and so on. And

1:24:14

10 testosterone tips. The first one says you don't

1:24:16

want low cholesterol because low

1:24:18

cholesterol is a precursor to

1:24:20

testosterone and you need cholesterol

1:24:22

to create

1:24:24

it, to create testosterone. And by the

1:24:26

way, when I told you about the GGT being

1:24:29

the life insurance company's

1:24:31

number one predictor of all-cause mortality, LDL

1:24:34

and high cholesterol don't even make it

1:24:36

onto their longevity

1:24:38

predictor list, right? So

1:24:41

and you don't need to ingest an excessive amount

1:24:43

of protein, go low

1:24:46

carb because the carbs

1:24:49

will raise your insulin levels and when

1:24:51

your insulin levels are up, you

1:24:54

not only have a lot more fat

1:24:56

on your body, but it

1:24:59

lowers your testosterone. And

1:25:02

then intermittent fasting that also raises

1:25:04

your HGH and wherever HGH flows,

1:25:06

that's human growth hormone, testosterone

1:25:09

follows. Exercise

1:25:12

that does it raises your T. You

1:25:15

want to avoid anything that has soy

1:25:17

or soybean oil like in mayo salad

1:25:20

dressings, diet foods, tofu, miso, protein powders,

1:25:22

fake meats and on and on. You

1:25:25

want to avoid all that. You

1:25:27

want to eat organic always because

1:25:29

the GMO and the pesticides are

1:25:31

endocrine disruptors and they can lower your

1:25:33

T over time. And

1:25:36

they even found there was a study,

1:25:38

number 10 shows never

1:25:40

eat a low fat diet. A new

1:25:42

2021 systematic review and meta analysis called

1:25:45

low fat diets and testosterone in men,

1:25:48

the researchers found there were significant

1:25:50

decreases in sex hormones, testosterone on

1:25:52

low fat versus high fat diets.

1:25:56

And they also reported that in the mid

1:25:58

20th century men's testosterone levels have declined

1:26:01

in Western countries. And I

1:26:03

say, what happened in mid 20th century?

1:26:05

That's when Ansel Keys and his crew,

1:26:07

along with the American Heart Association, started

1:26:09

pushing low-fat diets, all based on his

1:26:11

corrupted science called the Diet Heart Hypothesis.

1:26:14

And then I say, no wonder Viagra use has

1:26:16

exploded since 1998 when

1:26:19

it went from an accidental

1:26:21

medical mistake discovery to a

1:26:23

$3 billion a year industry.

1:26:25

So, yeah, you

1:26:27

wanna be able to keep your mind to it. Keep

1:26:30

your testosterone. And there's different things you can

1:26:32

do, like besides the exercise, the ketogenic diet,

1:26:34

live in ancestrally. I wanna say ancestrally, you

1:26:37

get a clue in that in my chapter

1:26:39

three. I

1:26:41

think it's called, it's called We're

1:26:44

Designed for a High-Fat, Low-Carb Diet. And I have

1:26:46

some pictures of them, Hunter Gather is there. I

1:26:49

have these three guys, the picture's from 1939. And

1:26:53

they were just ripped and chiseled and they, you know,

1:26:55

and I ask, I say, do you

1:26:57

think they're, you know, they're suffered from

1:27:00

carbohydrate overdose disorder? Say not

1:27:02

with those abs. And so

1:27:04

they're Hunter Gathers, they're Aborigines, you

1:27:06

know, Australia. And then I had this

1:27:08

other guy, this

1:27:10

picture was from 1900 and he's just, oh

1:27:13

my God, he's just ripped and chiseled like, I mean,

1:27:16

not like, you know, like some bodybuilder or something, because

1:27:18

it's very natural. There's no, I say, do you think

1:27:20

this guy had a fitness center near him in 1900?

1:27:24

Because, you know, this is just

1:27:27

how we all looked, because we

1:27:29

had a, you know, life was strenuous and

1:27:32

we had to work like hell to just

1:27:34

survive and our bodies got

1:27:36

to work out. And we didn't have any carbs,

1:27:38

sugar, oils, fruit juice and all the rest of

1:27:40

the stuff, right? So it was

1:27:42

very ancestral and that's what, you know,

1:27:46

myself and so many others are going

1:27:48

for, whether it's Dr. Ken Berry or

1:27:50

all the other geniuses on YouTube that

1:27:52

you've interviewed many of them, they're going

1:27:55

for the ancestral type diet. Dr.

1:27:57

Chris Canobie, you

1:27:59

know him. human or him, you interviewed

1:28:01

him, right? So he's got his latest

1:28:04

book, which is amazing, is

1:28:06

called the Ancestral Diet Revolution. And he's

1:28:08

got all that in there too. So

1:28:11

anyway, again, none of this

1:28:13

unholy trinity was in our humanoid diets

1:28:15

prior to 100 years ago, and

1:28:18

it's just deadly. All right. So

1:28:20

the unholy trinity again, coming back to the main

1:28:22

thesis here, we want to lower the carbs. We've

1:28:24

gotten into that. Sugar is pretty

1:28:27

self-explanatory. We touched on fruit dose and

1:28:29

we talked about fatty liver. So

1:28:31

we want to eliminate sugars, but

1:28:34

we haven't gotten into the seed oils too much. And

1:28:36

you brought up Chris Kenobi there. That's

1:28:38

his big thing. So

1:28:40

let's talk about that

1:28:42

going in depth on that, why we want

1:28:44

to avoid those. Yeah, Chris,

1:28:47

I got in touch with him.

1:28:49

In fact, he wrote me an

1:28:52

amazing endorsement for the book. I've got

1:28:54

some killer people that

1:28:56

have endorsed the book. So that's I'm really flattered

1:28:58

by that. And people

1:29:00

that you've, colleagues

1:29:02

of yours and people that you've interviewed, Nina

1:29:06

Tykholz, Chris Kenobi. I

1:29:10

even have Dr. Lou Ignaro, who won the Nobel

1:29:12

Prize in Medicine for his discovery of nitric oxide,

1:29:14

I have a whole section on that. He allowed

1:29:16

me to put a section of his book into

1:29:18

mind. So it was just a couple of pages,

1:29:21

but I've interviewed him as well. He's great. Yeah.

1:29:23

You know what I'm talking about there. Yeah. So

1:29:25

I was really fortunate to get these people in

1:29:27

there. And I, because I didn't know I'm a

1:29:29

first time author. I just, I

1:29:32

was attracted to all this to solve my own

1:29:34

problem. And then when I found all this

1:29:36

information, I thought, Oh my God, I've got to share this

1:29:38

with the world. And as many times as

1:29:40

my mind was blown, I try

1:29:43

to put that into the book. But with Dr.

1:29:45

Chris, he allowed me to

1:29:47

use some of his, a couple of his

1:29:49

graphs. I said, can I use that in the,

1:29:53

Yeah, sure. So I put that there.

1:29:55

I have a whole chapter, chapter

1:29:58

six. It's what is it called? It's called I

1:30:01

should know these by now, the shocking

1:30:03

truth about vegetable oils because, you know,

1:30:05

vegetables sounds healthy, right? But

1:30:08

they are so deadly that as

1:30:10

he will tell you, I

1:30:12

think that in time, these

1:30:15

seed oils are so dangerous, they will

1:30:17

be, they might even turn out to

1:30:19

be more deadly than the carbohydrates and

1:30:21

the sugars, the fine carbs and your

1:30:24

fine sugars, more

1:30:26

deadly than those. And so it

1:30:29

all started, well, they didn't exist

1:30:31

prior to, Dr. Chris

1:30:33

probably told you this in his interview, I don't know, I

1:30:35

haven't seen that one. But they

1:30:39

didn't exist prior to 1865. There

1:30:42

were these two guys that came from

1:30:45

Europe to Ohio, William

1:30:47

Campbell and James, I'm

1:30:49

sorry, William Proctor and James Gamble, which turned

1:30:51

out to be Proctor and Gamble. And

1:30:53

they made this thing called Crisco. And

1:30:57

it was made from cottonseed oil and up

1:30:59

to that point, cottonseed oil was made from

1:31:04

what was considered a toxic waste

1:31:06

from cottonseed farming. But

1:31:08

they looked at a bucket of it and they went,

1:31:10

hey, it looks like lard, why don't we use

1:31:12

it for cooking and sell it, we can

1:31:14

make money that way. And

1:31:17

so that's what happened, it started flying off the shelves in 1912.

1:31:21

Very coincident with the first time that the

1:31:23

first heart attack was ever officially

1:31:27

recorded. So these guys, they came

1:31:29

up with that and then it started flying off

1:31:31

the shelves and they're so deadly because there's

1:31:35

so many things in them, these

1:31:37

toxic ingredients, one is called

1:31:39

TBHQ. I can't remember the biochemical,

1:31:41

that's like a 64 letter word,

1:31:43

TBHQ. I

1:31:47

have that, what that is. And then

1:31:49

there's this 4HNE, hydroxygenolinol and

1:31:51

these other things that are in there,

1:31:53

they're neurodegenerative, they cause hyperphagia, which

1:31:56

is a medical term for overeating.

1:31:59

They got all of these. these, you know,

1:32:02

negative effects once

1:32:04

we eat them. And we've been eating them. I

1:32:07

mean, they did some blood tests for people. I think

1:32:09

it was, they found out that

1:32:11

in the last 50 years, the amount of

1:32:13

these because they store up in the fatty tissues of

1:32:15

the body of these oils. And

1:32:19

they found that there was an increase in the last

1:32:21

50 years of

1:32:23

about 40% of these oils

1:32:26

are found in the adipose tissue.

1:32:29

You know, by the way, they store up in

1:32:31

the fatty tissues just like street drugs,

1:32:34

you know, whether it's pot, LSD, morphine,

1:32:36

you know, all those fentanyl, all of

1:32:38

the store up in the fatty tissues

1:32:40

of the body. That's why people can

1:32:42

sometimes have these relapses or

1:32:44

they get high or again,

1:32:46

or they just are dull

1:32:49

or they cause hostility. There's certain things that

1:32:51

can, you know, you've got to get those

1:32:53

out of your system. These oils

1:32:55

store up just like that. And they can

1:32:57

affect you years later. So you got to

1:32:59

stop getting them into your

1:33:01

body right away. But

1:33:03

yeah, they're really deadly and historically,

1:33:07

there was poofus, which is

1:33:09

polyunsaturated fatty acids come in

1:33:11

Omega 3's and Omega 6.

1:33:14

These are dangerous Omega 6's which

1:33:16

do all the damage. Omega 3's are more

1:33:18

like from the fish and your salmon and

1:33:20

all that kind of thing, your beef, lots

1:33:23

of Omega 3's there. And

1:33:25

the ratio throughout recorded history

1:33:27

of these evolutionarily developed

1:33:29

human bodies was usually like one to

1:33:32

one, no higher than three to one.

1:33:35

Now it's more like 20 to one in

1:33:37

the human diet in this standard

1:33:40

American diet. 20 Omega 6 to 1 Omega 3

1:33:44

and it's just been throwing everything off. And,

1:33:46

you know, it's a source of a

1:33:48

lot of cancers. And even here it

1:33:52

says, in 2018 the World Cancer

1:33:54

Congress and the journal

1:33:56

of global oncology, they

1:33:59

presented this system. And they show the direct strong

1:34:01

link and connections to breast cancer, colorectal,

1:34:04

pancreatic, mouth

1:34:08

larynx esophagus, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma,

1:34:10

ovarian, prostate, all these different

1:34:13

cancers are directly related

1:34:15

to these vegetative, vegetable seed oils. So

1:34:18

it's just, it's, they're not just a little bit

1:34:20

of a problem. He talked about

1:34:22

the fact that they get incorporated in the

1:34:24

body and they stay there for prolonged periods

1:34:26

of time. Yeah. Other

1:34:30

than stopping today and not consuming them, have you come across

1:34:32

any ways of getting them out of the body quicker? Yeah,

1:34:37

you can do a, like people sign up

1:34:39

for what's called a purification program where

1:34:41

you go, it's a, it's a very, very, very good, very

1:34:44

good, very good, very good, and then you

1:34:46

can do that, like

1:34:48

people sign up for what's called a purification

1:34:50

program where you go, it's a, it's a,

1:34:53

it's a program where you throw the body

1:34:55

into saunas and you sweat out and there's

1:34:57

a lot of, it's very highly

1:34:59

monitored with a doctor and so forth.

1:35:02

And you, you know, you spend time

1:35:04

in there and you replenish with certain

1:35:07

salt and potassium because if you sweat

1:35:11

too much, then you can lose

1:35:13

a lot of that and you want to restore

1:35:15

all that. It's, it's very well monitored. So you

1:35:17

do all that and you can get those out

1:35:19

of it. What it does is it causes those

1:35:21

poisons to escape the fatty tissues,

1:35:23

goes into the bloodstream and you sweat

1:35:25

it out. But

1:35:28

anyway, there are things like that. I

1:35:30

don't cover that in the book, but you just

1:35:32

want to make sure you avoid that. Get into

1:35:34

a sweat program, make sure you're working out where

1:35:36

you're getting some sweat going. You want to make

1:35:38

sure you do that. Yeah, he was a lot,

1:35:40

he allowed me to use a couple

1:35:42

of his graphs that are, see in my book, I

1:35:46

have a lot of images and graphs and

1:35:48

charts. It makes it easier for the

1:35:50

reader to understand better. I mean, they

1:35:52

can understand when they see

1:35:54

the obesity graph going like this

1:35:56

and it started right where the

1:35:59

food pyramid is. it started and

1:36:01

you know, things like that. So they can under,

1:36:03

oh yeah, wow, I really get that. And so,

1:36:05

um, I like to use a lot of graphs

1:36:08

and charts and images and so forth. So people

1:36:10

can really understand it's not just dense

1:36:13

paragraphs of information. So

1:36:15

I like to break it up and

1:36:17

so that it's more easily assimilated, more

1:36:19

easily digested, so to speak. And

1:36:22

you talked about the sweat programs that you can

1:36:24

go through to get these oils out of the

1:36:26

body quicker. Have you done one of

1:36:28

those? And after your heart attack,

1:36:30

when you were, you know,

1:36:33

re changing your whole lifestyle around for

1:36:36

the better, are there

1:36:38

any other baseline protocols

1:36:40

like that you did to reset

1:36:42

things before you

1:36:44

adopted what we've talked about today? Well,

1:36:46

the main thing is that I went low carb,

1:36:49

Tito. Um, I wanted

1:36:51

to go like our ancestors did.

1:36:54

I thought, because on my

1:36:56

website, danieltrevor.com, you can see if you scroll

1:36:58

down, I have a video

1:37:00

there, seven minute video that tells my story and all

1:37:02

that, and then if you scroll down past the, all

1:37:05

the endorsements and so forth, uh,

1:37:08

I have some images of my new

1:37:10

hunter gatherer physique. And I

1:37:12

just want to tell you, I didn't have any of that going

1:37:14

on prior to it. I

1:37:16

mean, I, you know, I, it

1:37:19

doesn't matter your age. You just, you just going to

1:37:21

look like a, one of the guys that had pictures

1:37:23

that I have in the book in chapter three, it

1:37:25

was just guy, he's got gray hair, but he's got

1:37:27

these six pack. What? So

1:37:30

I just try to emulate that.

1:37:32

What did our forefathers, how

1:37:34

did they eat? What were their

1:37:36

bodies like? They had healthy microbiomes.

1:37:39

They, you know, they were just very healthy

1:37:42

specimens of human beings. And

1:37:44

so I try to emulate that and, you know, I

1:37:46

just make sure that I get sweating

1:37:48

to the point at the gym where I'm,

1:37:50

where I am sweating, where I am releasing

1:37:52

this kind of thing, and

1:37:55

I'm getting those, any poisons out of

1:37:57

my, out of my system. So.

1:38:00

you make the transition and you want to watch

1:38:02

out for some of the foods. You want to

1:38:04

watch out for, let's say, when

1:38:07

you're getting olive oil,

1:38:09

you want to make sure it's been corrupted so

1:38:11

much. It's like 80% of it out

1:38:13

there has been, it's just, they

1:38:16

use a little bit of olive oil in the bottle

1:38:18

and the rest of it is like some cheap soybean

1:38:20

oil or cottonseed oil, that kind of thing. But

1:38:23

so you really got to do your investigation, make sure

1:38:25

it's an authentic, maybe a little more

1:38:27

expensive, but hey, it's safe. It's,

1:38:29

and you got to watch out, don't eat

1:38:31

any of the meatless meats or veggie burgers,

1:38:34

because those are loaded with these

1:38:36

seed oils. You know, it's like the second ingredient.

1:38:40

You know, just like wheat, they put wheat in everything.

1:38:44

Wheat, check out this stat. The

1:38:47

average supermarket has 60,000 products. 59,000

1:38:52

contain wheat or some form of

1:38:54

wheat. Even

1:38:57

Twizzlers, the candy, the second ingredient is

1:38:59

wheat. Remember I told you about how

1:39:01

it turns on this gliadin, which, you

1:39:03

know, stimulates the opiate receptors in the

1:39:05

brain. So they're really coming after our

1:39:07

opiate receptors. And with the same thing

1:39:09

with these seed oils, they're

1:39:11

deadly. They're putting it into everything. Just,

1:39:14

you know, everything from

1:39:16

mayonnaise to salad dressings and,

1:39:18

you know, everything down the,

1:39:21

up and down the aisles, the soups, the this,

1:39:23

to that, the crackers, the cookies, you're

1:39:25

going to find some seed oils in all of them. So sorry,

1:39:28

I know that's bad news, but

1:39:32

anyway, that's the thing is thing with that,

1:39:34

that you want to avoid the meatless

1:39:36

meats and the veggie burgers, because they're just loaded

1:39:39

with that crap. You've brought

1:39:41

up olive oil a couple of times when

1:39:43

it comes to supplementing the diet you've

1:39:45

already talked about. What

1:39:47

different oils in the plant realm

1:39:50

and animal things like olive oil,

1:39:52

tallow, coconut oil, what

1:39:54

do you use? The only thing I

1:39:56

use is mostly butter. I don't, you

1:39:58

know, I don't, I don't make myself. salads anymore.

1:40:01

I'm not a salad guy, so I don't

1:40:03

need a salad dressing. I was listening

1:40:07

to Dr. Kenobi,

1:40:09

Dr. Chris, and he was saying that he

1:40:11

uses for his salad dressing if he makes

1:40:13

a salad, he'll use

1:40:15

melted butter. He says, it tastes

1:40:17

great. I know it's safe because

1:40:20

it's pasture raised butter, that kind of thing. So

1:40:22

I thought, well, if I'm going to make salads

1:40:25

again, I'm going to do that because I don't buy

1:40:27

olive oil. The only oil that I get into my

1:40:33

body is the powder that I have,

1:40:36

the MCT oil powder that

1:40:38

I put into my coffee, only because

1:40:40

it creates ketones, helps suppress appetite, and

1:40:42

so on. So that's the

1:40:44

only oil I do. It's butter for me. I

1:40:47

put butter in my coffee, maybe

1:40:49

some heavy whipping

1:40:51

cream, because again, fats

1:40:54

do not break your fast. So you can

1:40:56

get away with that. The

1:40:58

only thing that breaks your fast is the carbohydrates

1:41:00

and the protein. So you don't want to have

1:41:03

any smoothies or protein shakes or anything because that's

1:41:05

going to break your fast. You

1:41:07

only want fats. One

1:41:09

of the other items that comes up as

1:41:11

a constant controversy even today is salt. Do

1:41:14

you salt your meat? How do you feel about salt as

1:41:16

part of a healthy diet? I do a

1:41:19

lot of salt. Yeah. I have a,

1:41:21

I don't know, in the back

1:41:23

of the book, I have, there's

1:41:25

a section, what do I call it, please do pass the

1:41:28

salt because there was a whole

1:41:30

false information that came out, I think back

1:41:33

in Congress in the 70s,

1:41:35

they came up with this whole thing of the salt

1:41:37

is dangerous and everything. And it's not, it's a bunch

1:41:39

of bullshit. So anyway,

1:41:42

no, we, our bodies need salt. We

1:41:44

always had salt. Anyway,

1:41:47

I go into

1:41:50

that in that section, but

1:41:52

you know, you can feel free to use the

1:41:54

salt, but I would prefer you use the, what's