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another amazing discussion. Something

1:10

we thought about maybe starting off just to

1:12

kind of get the show going is BBDCs,

1:14

which if

1:16

you don't know what that is, right? Did I say that right? I

1:18

always mess that up. Yeah. Central

1:21

Bank Digital Currencies. And maybe,

1:23

you know, brainstorm if you got, has anybody done

1:25

a deep dive? Not to take Monica's

1:29

slogan, but anybody done a deep dive

1:31

on this topic or? I skimmed the surface.

1:34

Mike Mismo, you're going to open up a new chapter. Well,

1:36

skim the surface. I mean, here in

1:38

the US, I know we have some Canadian

1:41

folks with us.

1:42

We just lost another

1:44

one. We lost a bank, another

1:46

San Francisco bank. And

1:49

it was this, I think it was the Republic

1:51

Bank or Republic One. It

1:55

was absorbed into Chase. This

1:58

is like the second major San Francisco. bank

2:00

in like three months to kind of fall

2:02

down and be absorbed.

2:05

But this also presents an opportunity

2:07

for the

2:08

central banking elite to introduce

2:12

a digital dollar as things become more

2:15

and more chaotic in the financial markets

2:17

and as inflation kind of spirals out

2:20

of control.

2:21

It seems like there's a prime opportunity

2:23

for a central bank digital

2:25

currency that

2:26

you don't own. You can't store

2:29

on your USB drive like you can

2:31

with Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies.

2:34

It will only be available through

2:36

a

2:37

bank and it'll live on your phone

2:39

in the ether somewhere, the digital ether.

2:42

And that's the only way you're going to be able to access it.

2:44

You will not own it. You will

2:46

basically just use it. How

2:52

does FedNow work into

2:54

this? Well, I believe FedNow,

2:57

it allows the federal reserve to

3:00

issue direct payments

3:02

to participants and that participant

3:05

could be an individual like a person like me

3:07

or it could be a bank. Now, how

3:10

does the digital currency

3:13

factor into that? Well, I mean,

3:15

how does currently digital dollars factor into

3:17

it? I think that the FedNow is like step

3:19

one, the digital currency version of

3:22

it would be like step two. I think

3:24

it's pretty critical for their digital infrastructure to

3:26

get FedNow to have that direct access

3:30

to your phone

3:32

or app, whatever, and then they can roll

3:34

in the currency that they want to trade out.

3:38

It's also an intermediary

3:40

too, where when you go to buy

3:42

something on Amazon and you use

3:44

your new digital Fed coin, it

3:47

will go through FedNow

3:50

and then to Amazon that way.

3:52

So they would know everything that you were buying

3:55

because they would be involved in the purchasing

3:58

process, not to mention that central bank digital.

3:59

currencies will be fully programmable.

4:02

You could set it however you want.

4:04

You could set it to have full transparency,

4:07

which of course they will. They'll want to know what you are

4:09

buying. They'll set it so that you can't

4:11

buy certain things like firearms or red

4:13

meat or bullets. They'll

4:16

set it to expire if

4:17

they choose to. If they got a bad negative

4:21

earnings report from last Christmas and it was lower

4:23

than expected, they can set

4:26

the expiration date of a percentage of

4:28

the coins in your wallet to expire

4:31

in 90 days and force artificial

4:35

ramp up of the money velocity. And

4:38

when Klaus Schwab says you'll own nothing, the

4:40

reason why you'll own nothing is you'll have no ability to save.

4:43

You can't save for anything. You want to own

4:45

a car, you want to buy a car, you can't. Wasn't

4:47

that what Bertrand Russell talked about at the beginning

4:50

of the 20th century, that you'd be issued

4:52

an allowance for the week and it would expire

4:54

at the end of the week.

4:56

And he was a one world government guy, right? With

5:03

the Fed now, you know how when you make a transaction

5:05

with your credit card or your debit card or whatever, it

5:08

usually will go through, there's usually

5:10

even if you have insufficient

5:13

funds, the purchase

5:16

will be approved, it'll be revoked later

5:19

down the road. The Fed now think does

5:22

the confirmation

5:24

in the middle of the transaction.

5:27

So because it's a,

5:29

it helps process it

5:31

and it becomes the digital contract

5:34

from you to the person that you're sending

5:36

funds to or from the point of origins

5:38

for the funds to you.

5:40

And that's what quote

5:42

unquote legitimizes the

5:45

transaction. So they put the

5:47

state

5:48

all the way in between you

5:50

and where your money goes in a way that they've never

5:53

really been able to do or will have

5:56

done it in a way that they haven't been able to do

5:58

thus far. And it does. provide the

6:01

at least the domestic framework here

6:04

for the implementation of CBDC.

6:07

Recall that we're in

6:08

I think it's phase four now of

6:11

the Federal Reserve's pilot trial

6:14

program for CBDC

6:16

on the retail on the back end,

6:19

not for the individual customer

6:21

end.

6:22

But until there's an infrastructure

6:25

to do the transactions on the back end

6:27

of it with central bank digital

6:29

currency, they're not going to roll it out. So

6:31

this pilot program that we've been in for the last

6:34

like six months

6:35

out in the New York Fed has been

6:37

more how to set up the framework on

6:40

the back end so that when we do

6:42

start to do peer-to-peer transactions,

6:44

we'll be able to have the state

6:47

in the middle of those. Won't that be nice?

6:54

Don't you guys think that does the US

6:57

have enough infrastructure to pull this off

6:59

and not disenfranchise

7:02

a huge percentage of the country? Because

7:07

I've talked to I have family in the banking

7:09

industry and they said that there's no way

7:11

you could reach everybody with this.

7:13

I don't think they're trying to go

7:16

ahead. I'm sorry. I

7:19

was just going to share one anecdote. I've been

7:21

to Europe and it's not a CBDC,

7:24

but Sweden has fully

7:26

electronic money.

7:28

And the only place you talk

7:30

to the Swedes and they say the only places that

7:32

you could actually use this is in the major

7:35

cities.

7:36

Once you get outside of the major cities,

7:38

everybody uses cash. So

7:41

it's the most connected, basically

7:43

the most connected country in the world and

7:45

they can't pull it off. So I'm

7:47

curious. Go ahead and finish your thought though, because

7:49

that's interesting. You don't think that they want,

7:51

they care. Well, in all

7:54

of the UN

7:54

agenda, 21,

7:58

2030 2050 all

8:01

of that there's anywhere

8:03

from three to fifteen percent

8:05

of the population that's gained out

8:08

of their Scenario

8:10

and it's already sort of baked into the equation

8:13

that there's gonna be X amount of people that

8:15

are never going to participate In this brand

8:17

new experiment moving to the future.

8:20

So it we're already cut up

8:23

now what that looks like going forward I

8:25

have no idea but I know that in their

8:27

own internal documents when they're gaming all

8:30

this stuff out There's a

8:32

chunk of years as like I guess

8:34

grace period or something like that Let's

8:37

you know, let's grease it up period rather

8:39

I guess rather than grace period And

8:42

see how many different people they can

8:44

get on board. Nobody wanted all

8:46

digital banking

8:48

15 years ago either

8:50

and we're at a point to where almost all of our

8:53

Banking transactions takes takes

8:55

digitally period

8:57

Right. Well, they did roll it out a central

9:00

bank digital currency in Nigeria

9:02

and it is half of one percent

9:04

adoption Nobody's use Wow

9:07

and ever in two-thirds of the of

9:09

the countries using Bitcoin Because

9:12

they're they're done with currency hyperinflation

9:15

and they don't trust the CBDC which they shouldn't

9:18

so there There are there already

9:20

sort of outside of the system to the extent

9:22

that they can be now I don't know how that works

9:24

in some of the smaller

9:26

Areas outside of logos, but like

9:29

Nigeria as a whole which is a you know,

9:31

I mean a hundred over a hundred million people there They're

9:34

just not participating. They just

9:37

don't they're not there's no interest. So now again,

9:39

it's not the US dollar.

9:41

So Maybe you know

9:43

things can be made, you know, you can be made

9:45

to get on board

9:47

In a variety of ways, but but at least

9:49

as far as just natural Adoption

9:53

that's not coming at the barrel of a gun in Nigeria

9:56

There's

9:56

almost zero appetite for

9:58

it, which is a good sign So that means that there's

10:00

hope for us. What about these

10:03

states that are talking about banning

10:05

CBDCs in their states?

10:08

If Florida is kind of pushed

10:10

that,

10:11

but how much power does

10:13

that have over the federal government? So

10:16

the Fed is actively going to the

10:18

Congress asking for Congress to

10:20

pass something for them to have

10:23

the central bank digital currency. So they

10:26

might know that they need some sort

10:28

of legal authority, whether that's legal or not.

10:32

They're seeking some sort of approval

10:35

from the Congress and whether Florida

10:37

itself and other states can really fight

10:40

back, they would, I don't know, that it would be an awesome

10:43

legal fight to hear.

10:46

Well, something that Steve said, which

10:48

is really important, is that it's baby steps

10:50

in a certain direction. So right

10:53

now, you can have a lot of people that resist.

10:56

But just like, I remember when I was younger,

10:58

my parents are like, oh, digital banking

11:00

or banking online, nobody's ever going to do that because

11:02

they're going to be afraid of somebody stealing their password or

11:04

their money or whatever. And little by

11:07

little, you just kind of give up a little bit of privacy

11:09

and the new comes in

11:12

and the old becomes history. But

11:14

you know what's interesting about that, Ricky,

11:16

is that everything you just

11:18

said about people stealing their passwords,

11:21

false transactions, that really did

11:23

happen.

11:25

And they suppressed the

11:27

information about it. So the early

11:30

Bitcoin people like Antonopoulos

11:32

pointed out that at least six

11:34

or eight years ago, 50% of

11:36

Visa's budget was fraud remediation.

11:41

So basically, they knew the

11:43

system didn't work, but they want

11:46

a system. So they covered

11:48

up the fact that it was fraudulent and

11:50

they just paid back. Basically

11:54

the account holders paid back all

11:56

the fraud for everybody. I

12:00

guess the dream was that there will be no

12:02

fraud or they can be the ones

12:04

who do all the fraud, you

12:06

know, whenever they implement their grand

12:09

connected scheme. I

12:12

just, I'm not, I

12:15

think they're going to force it through. I think it's going

12:17

to fail miserably. And I think it's going to cause

12:19

a lot of misery in the world

12:21

is what I think is going to happen. I think

12:23

that actually the opposite is going to happen. I actually

12:25

think that little by little people are going to adapt

12:27

it. They're going to make it really inconvenient to

12:30

maybe use alternative currencies,

12:33

just like the vaccine, right? Like that. How

12:36

do you get people to jump on board, make it so inconvenient

12:39

to not get it that a lot of people just throw

12:41

their hands up and say, okay, I'm just going to do it just so

12:43

I can, you know, get rid of this

12:45

inconvenience. And I think that

12:48

will happen. And I just,

12:50

you know, I don't have a whole lot of faith

12:53

in that average person in regards to like serious

12:55

pushback. I think people do like their

12:58

comfortable lives. And if, you know,

13:00

if it means things staying comfortable,

13:02

then I don't think a lot of people want to push

13:04

back and, and whatnot. And I

13:07

think a lot of times like drastic change seems

13:10

difficult to implement for a little bit. But

13:13

if you can implement it slowly, eventually people

13:15

adapt to it. And it happened. I mean,

13:17

look at cash, for example, car

13:19

dealerships, anybody who owns the cash business, like

13:21

it's a lot of times, like back in the day, it's like, Oh,

13:24

what's the, what will you give me for a deal

13:26

if I pay you cash? Now it's like, we don't even

13:28

want your cash. Like it's an inconvenience or

13:30

whatever, you know, like, or there's

13:32

nowhere to put it, we can't hide it, you know,

13:35

then the IRS will be coming after us. So it's like,

13:38

they just make it an inconvenience. So I just,

13:40

I don't know, I kind of see a lot

13:42

of people resisting at first. And

13:45

now I mean, we basically do have digital

13:47

currency. I mean, most people, their

13:50

transactions are with a debit

13:52

card or credit card, and it just money

13:54

going from one computer or one system to another.

13:57

And we don't really see the money. So I mean, how

13:59

different is that?

13:59

but then the future that they're trying to

14:02

build for. That's not what they're talking about.

14:04

That's not what the central bank digital currency

14:06

is. The central bank digital currency will be attached

14:09

to a social credit ESG type

14:11

score. So when I'm reading- Not

14:13

at first though, right? Right, but what I'm

14:15

reading in the long-term plan, if you look through

14:18

in the IMF or in the wiform.org

14:20

or any of that,

14:22

getting us all on the central

14:24

bank digital currency is the first step to the world

14:27

ID that all of those websites

14:29

and UNR common agenda and all of them

14:31

are even, Council of Foreign Relations

14:34

are talking about. Kirsten Sinema just

14:36

announced that she would like everyone in America to be

14:38

on a digital ID. I think that

14:41

the central bank digital currency is the first step

14:43

to then having ESG scores.

14:46

We just had this environmental justice

14:48

bill pass that has an environmental

14:50

justice scoring system. We

14:52

have the HRC has

14:55

the corporate equality

14:57

index. We have the ESG was implemented

15:00

two years ago, really before that. I

15:02

think all of these are being done to test

15:05

them on the corporate multinational corporation

15:07

and bank level, really to eventually

15:10

be to us. So to me,

15:12

the programmable token side of

15:14

the central bank digital currency is

15:16

what I have a problem with because I don't use

15:19

much cash, but I certainly don't want them, looking

15:22

at my social media or my shows and

15:24

shutting down, taking my money.

15:26

Well, yeah, well, that was my point because it's

15:28

all baby steps in that direction. So it's like,

15:31

it just sold as like, oh, it's just more convenient.

15:34

It's digital and then next thing you know, the government

15:36

controls all your money. And then that means

15:38

that if you don't

15:40

play by their rules, they can turn it off

15:42

or, you know, so yeah, it's all kind of

15:44

baby steps. And that's the thing. And I think that's

15:46

why not

15:47

as many people

15:49

resist initially as you

15:51

know, it's like two weeks to shut, you

15:54

know, to stop the curve or to

15:56

flatten the curve, right? It's like, yeah, you know,

15:58

most people will just say.

15:59

hey, what's the big deal? It's two weeks. And then

16:03

people like us who are constantly looking at the

16:05

bigger picture like, oh, no, no, no, there's not just

16:07

going to be two weeks and you're missing the greater

16:09

point of like, it's going to be two weeks, then it's

16:11

going to be three weeks, then two months and three

16:14

months. And next thing you know, it's three years. And,

16:16

you know, I think just the majority of people aren't

16:18

looking at it from the bigger picture

16:21

like we are. We're they're not seeing the end game like we

16:23

are. And I think many people struggle to do

16:25

that.

16:26

So let me let me throw something out

16:28

to the panel here real quick. And I think I can't

16:30

remember if Mike was with us when we were talking

16:32

about this on the morning show or not, but there's

16:35

that push that the UN did, where

16:37

they sort of they came out

16:39

with that document talking specifically

16:42

about what amounts to vice laws

16:45

and consent and all kinds

16:47

of all kinds of crimes associated

16:50

with substance abuse

16:53

and with sex trafficking and all that. And what they effectively

16:55

said is that we're going to be re-looking

16:58

at what this means. And we're going to

17:00

redefine what effectively consent

17:02

is or the age of consent is for a lot of

17:04

places all across the board, a lot

17:06

of other vice related crimes. So

17:09

a little flag went up for

17:11

me saying, you know,

17:13

it's going to be really hard to have an illegal

17:16

trade in an era of

17:18

CBDCs. It's going to be

17:21

pretty difficult to have a black

17:23

market. So unless you were to in some

17:25

way, shape or form legalize

17:28

what has traditionally been aspects

17:31

of vice and have traditionally

17:33

been black market items, whether

17:35

it's drugs or whether it's ass and

17:38

everything in between.

17:39

If you're going to rewrite

17:42

the rules for it as the UN is doing

17:44

right now, it would be a

17:46

pretty good way to when you do

17:48

implement your CBDCs, then not

17:51

only do you track and control everybody's

17:53

vice, you can direct people into

17:55

particular vices in order

17:58

to control them a little bit easier.

18:00

I was wondering how's the CIA going

18:02

to get some of its money? If

18:05

everything is to go on digital, therefore everything

18:07

is tracked.

18:08

A full accounting

18:11

should be easy to make. Auditing

18:14

should be made easier, especially the Pentagon. When

18:17

you have black budgets and you have

18:19

weird black ops stuff, everything the CIA

18:22

has done, they don't want. They want to deal in cash.

18:24

They deal in

18:26

weird stuff. Why would they want

18:28

to go on this kind of thing? Unless

18:30

there are really probably

18:32

three digital currencies, one for

18:35

us, another one as the in

18:38

between between ours and then

18:40

the elites version of it.

18:42

They can make trades between

18:44

it because they don't want their stuff tracked. They

18:47

can turn that off. I did

18:50

the greatest gift a podcast ever gave me

18:52

was when Steve introduced me to Ian Davis

18:54

and he just wrote two articles

18:57

on off guardian about CBDC.

19:00

I did a show with him. I interviewed him

19:02

about that. He addressed that

19:04

actual issue. He said that you

19:06

can decide on which way you want the digital

19:09

currency to be. Do you want it to be totally

19:11

trackable or do you not? If

19:13

I understood him correctly, you could do that simultaneously.

19:16

Like the CIA could have one that turns the

19:20

transparency off.

19:22

Wait

19:24

until the CIA discovers Monero. What

19:28

do you mean wait? It's different.

19:32

There are a few other things that I got from him, but I did want

19:34

to say something about I have a really good

19:36

friend in Sweden who since I've

19:38

known her has lived in Gothenburg, Uppsala,

19:40

and Stockholm. Her father wouldn't even

19:43

use a credit card. They switched completely

19:46

to a cashless society overnight

19:48

to the point where I sent her a check of money for her birthday

19:50

and she could not deposit a check.

19:53

I didn't even understand. I just sent her a visa

19:55

card like a prepaid visa card instead.

19:57

I don't know if she was able to use it or what. Like,

20:01

and I know you're saying that out in the country

20:03

or whatever, but like, you know,

20:05

Sweden isn't that big. That isn't going to be that many people

20:07

if like, oops, I ain't got the organ stuff. You

20:10

know, nope.

20:11

Well, there's quite a few people outside

20:13

of the large. Okay. All

20:16

right. Because she's just, she was

20:18

like, she was stumped. She's like, I can't do anything with your

20:20

money. Difficult. They absolutely

20:22

do make it difficult. I was

20:24

at a ship port going

20:27

to one of the remote islands and

20:29

I was like, look, I just got, I

20:32

just got here at three o'clock in the morning.

20:34

I don't have a debit card.

20:36

And they're like, they talk to the people

20:38

in the back of the office. They say, okay, you

20:41

can pay us in cash, but you don't get any

20:43

change in what kind of cash at

20:47

Cronar's euros. Oh, yeah. And

20:49

Cronar's. Yeah. I'm surprised they even,

20:52

you know what they can do with that. Yeah.

20:55

Well, they, they have the ability to accept cash.

20:57

It's just that they really didn't want you to. Yeah.

21:00

Well, this is what I'm thinking is that if you can't

21:03

and like to the CIA, the black money thing,

21:05

if they can't accept cash,

21:09

if you, if that's, uh, and you can't

21:11

save it, like you have that idea of like,

21:13

you're, you won't be able to save it. People

21:15

need, they're like decoupling

21:17

the functions of money, the store

21:20

of value from the medium of exchange.

21:22

So this will be, let's say,

21:25

uh, it's to the extent expires or

21:27

whatever, you have to have a store

21:29

of value that's separate. And that of course could

21:31

function as a medium of exchange, but that is making

21:33

me wonder about laws against owning gold,

21:36

how like people are being moved away

21:38

from having their own houses, their own real estate.

21:41

And like that is a thing that would be a real store

21:43

of value that you could have. And

21:45

it reminds me of something that Ian Davis was saying

21:47

about how, uh, like

21:49

it's a, it's part of this whole scheme

21:51

is this asset tokenization. So

21:55

like, if you have a $500,000 piece

21:57

of property, you can make that like a divisible.

22:00

token, which a, you know, will be

22:02

proof of ownership, but also allows for like

22:04

fractional ownership. But once you have fractional

22:06

ownership of like a home, how

22:08

much control do you really have over that?

22:11

Like a kind of, you know, if they really go that way,

22:13

you know, what I want is a discrete store

22:15

of value. Like I feel a lot better about

22:17

this. If I knew I could stockpile gold and

22:20

it wouldn't be illegal to use it. That's

22:22

the thing that worries me the most. I want to

22:24

tell you something that I'm glad you said that, Monica.

22:26

Do you know that this week, the

22:29

23rd state in the union

22:29

is putting in legislation to

22:32

make gold and silver usable

22:36

as currency. So that has to be

22:38

some that has to be connected to this somehow

22:40

because they've been doing it like at the dark and night.

22:43

So like you and you got red states and

22:45

blue states doing it to have this be used

22:47

as legal tender. Like this can't

22:49

be a coincidence.

22:52

I have a question in the world

22:54

of the CBDCs and global and digital currencies. Realistically,

22:59

how is gold going to be used? If everything

23:02

is controlled by the government

23:04

and you sit on a stockpile of gold, how can that be exchanged? I'm just

23:06

curious. I

23:11

was just thinking like, and I actually think

23:13

of silver as an easier thing. But like, if

23:16

you grow pot and you

23:18

don't want to go through the system and it's going

23:21

to deteriorate in value, you

23:23

have to get rid of it. People are going to use

23:25

it in real time. If someone gives you gold, it just has a medium

23:28

of exchange, like barter. You would just have it.

23:30

I'm not saying that I think

23:35

you could go to a bank or maybe buy a house

23:37

with it. But at least if you could store, if

23:41

there was a way to, I'm more concerned about being able to

23:44

buy gold with the CBDC. Once the CBDC

23:46

happens and they look at every single

23:48

transaction that that coin ever used,

23:51

then they can say, this coin once bought gold

23:54

and it's not worth anything

23:56

or you can't exchange it that way. Or yeah, I'm not saying

23:59

that. or they can arrest you if you have

24:01

it, or if it's not like doesn't

24:04

have a certain serial number, a certain marking,

24:07

you're never going to be able to use it again. It's like

24:09

reverse tainted. Like that's what

24:11

I worry about. I'm thinking about

24:13

us of people like being off the

24:15

grid, of people like just can't

24:18

live in that society. What are we

24:19

going to do? Yeah, what happens to the Amish? The Amish are

24:21

screwed at this point. If they implement

24:24

this, like Amish are, what

24:26

does their means of exchange?

24:28

Currently, they take physical

24:30

dollars and coins. They don't take

24:32

credit cards. I deal with them every week. And

24:35

so if they move everything to digital, they're basically saying,

24:37

screw the Amish. Screw. And I think

24:39

that they've got that major thing with the FDA

24:42

and that Amish farmer right now. Well, trying

24:44

to cripple their ability to exchange

24:46

goods. Well, I think the Amish should

24:50

levy a lawsuit against this digital

24:53

coin action and say this is

24:55

a violation of their life, liberty,

24:57

and pursuit of happiness and religious freedoms. And

24:59

it actually might win.

25:02

They have the opportunity to do that. They have the

25:04

opportunity. Look, nobody's saying

25:07

to anywhere that you can't create your

25:09

own currency. We do that all the time.

25:12

There's altcoins all

25:14

over the place to pop up. Some of them even become

25:16

like real money.

25:18

Here,

25:21

I know wealthy families that

25:23

they trade dogs. So they buy expensive

25:26

dogs that have puppies and that's the currency.

25:29

I knew a

25:31

guy worked with him and for him for a number

25:34

of years and he had grown up

25:36

up in Montreal. His father was

25:39

the Hell's Angels. They ran weed, all

25:42

that kind of stuff. And when he was coming up,

25:45

he would take cannabis

25:47

from Montreal down into

25:50

the upper US

25:52

and they would convert it into

25:54

watches in downtown New York.

25:57

So him and his buddies would roll across

25:59

the border.

27:55

amount

28:00

of money.

28:01

I just bought a hundred year old house

28:04

which is definitely like

28:06

not it's not the standard

28:08

that I am used to living in like a prefab

28:11

whatever but my feeling

28:13

was in the realtor was like oh my gosh like these

28:16

walls are made of plaster like they

28:18

don't chip like they're good and

28:20

they're little things like that and I never really

28:23

thought of that versus like oh out here

28:25

things that are old are better than

28:27

things that are new and I just that was

28:30

breaking to me so I mean trust me I'm

28:32

sure it's gonna be a massive money pit but I

28:34

feel like now I'm looking a little more closely I'm

28:36

like wow look at that wood and look at that tile

28:39

you know it's like there's tile on the ceiling it's

28:41

like a Spanish thing I'm like who would

28:43

who could ever pay to put tile

28:45

I'm looking at the bill for tile I'm like I have this

28:48

much tile those are the Spanish

28:50

the Spanish Mediterranean

28:53

in in LA right yeah and my husband was

28:55

just like you want to you want to buy

28:57

that house and I'm like well you

29:00

know they say old is better but I'm

29:02

just saying now I'm appreciating that

29:04

you're just never seeing that craftsmanship again

29:06

even just like the wood floors and stuff like

29:09

it's worth like I say it's like worth it

29:11

it's like a museum or it's something of value

29:13

something of inherent value or as I said to the

29:16

realtor it's like I really want something

29:18

old I want it to be like a time machine because I hate the

29:20

world and I just want to pretend that I lived 100 years

29:23

ago and it's it's just

29:25

there's something nicer about it and now everything's

29:27

home depot

29:29

now everything's home depot shit

29:32

I can't even find the stuff to fix it I have

29:34

it's like three lumber yards just to find like the big

29:36

piece of wood but I'm just saying like you're

29:39

right seem like this this it's things

29:41

of old craftsmanship are

29:44

you know truly they're going to be rarer and

29:46

rarer because it is hard to maintain it has true

29:48

value I'd

29:49

love to know what I'd love to know what Matt thinks

29:51

about Canada Matt Eritt's up there

29:53

nice to see you I think we're a

29:56

little farther ahead

29:58

of you guys down there with the

30:00

with the you know, no cash society

30:03

I mean things are pretty much all debit up here

30:05

for the most part and there's a controversy

30:07

with I think one of our banks Was shutting down the actual

30:09

physical bank and they're just having like a machine.

30:12

So no more tellers in some of these spots

30:15

So I think that caused a bit of an uproar, but we also

30:17

have a massive compliance rate for

30:19

certain things So what do you think? I'll

30:22

go ahead Matt. Yeah

30:24

Yeah, sure I mean, you know Canada has always been

30:26

a bit of a basket case from the get-go and the

30:28

difference between the United States and Canada is

30:31

that

30:32

The idea of too big to fail like systemically

30:34

important too big to fail banks that have been categorized

30:36

in recent years in the United States

30:39

Are kind of a newer phenomenon that

30:42

emerged out of the age of mergers and acquisitions

30:44

of the deregulated 1970s and especially the 1980s

30:46

and especially got even worse, you know every single Step

30:49

of the way, especially the glass deal being taken down

30:52

you had universal banking But in the US

30:54

you still have something like 1800 local

30:56

banks that still exist You have a culture of

30:59

of local banking and state banking

31:01

and in Canada

31:03

Ever since we were founded so

31:05

called as a British

31:08

monarchy of the of the north We

31:10

always had like too big to fail

31:12

banks like a big five six bank

31:15

Behemoth

31:16

coterie that had a revolving door into

31:19

government back into the banking system from the get-go So

31:21

we never had local banks. We have some

31:23

credit unions, you

31:24

know There's little things that have emerged in the 20th

31:26

century, but it's it's really anomalous so

31:30

the control the centralized control has always

31:33

been there for us and it's always been tied to

31:35

Sociopathic technocrats in London who

31:38

have been utilizing things like the privy council,

31:40

you know We have this whole weird as an American

31:42

or living in a republic It's hard for you

31:44

guys to imagine the way that the

31:47

system is wired in Canada around

31:49

a privy council office with governor

31:51

generals as the head of state and

31:53

and lieutenant governors that are Part that are all members

31:56

of the the the order of the Knights of St.

31:58

John of Jerusalem all embedded

31:59

enmeshed generation

32:02

to generation maintaining a system of

32:04

Malthusian controls to keep the population

32:06

as compliant as possible. And sometimes

32:09

you get little surprises and outbursts of freedom

32:11

occasionally, which is nice.

32:13

And you'll get weird responses where

32:15

people would think that they were in a democracy and all of a

32:17

sudden their bank accounts are frozen just

32:20

because they donated 40 bucks to a freedom

32:22

convoy. And no, I mean, there's

32:25

been a lot that's been preparing

32:27

the groundwork for the oncoming collapse. Because I mean,

32:29

from my standpoint, and then I'll shut up because I, but

32:32

the thing that's sort of hovering overhead is the fact that the whole

32:35

system is wired to collapse.

32:37

And those who have actually set

32:39

the time bomb have been preparing the groundwork

32:41

for that collapse. Not that they understand exactly what the

32:43

real world implication

32:46

is going to be. They're really good at planning, right? For

32:48

decades. But when it comes to action,

32:51

it gets things tend to blow up even in their faces.

32:53

But there are there is legislation

32:55

online to bring in

32:57

central bank digital currencies that have been around

32:59

since 2021, at least that I've seen enmeshed

33:01

in the banking codes of Canada, the Banking Acts,

33:04

it's part of the the Bail-in regimes

33:06

that they've all already set up the moment Trudeau

33:08

got into powers as Prime Minister,

33:11

sort of like the same thing that the Bail-in regimes are,

33:13

I think, tied to that as well as part of the next phase

33:15

of the trigger, the trigger of the meltdown of the banking

33:17

system. So they want to

33:19

try to just impose order out of chaos, kind of like they

33:21

did in the 20s under Weimar Germany,

33:24

when they blew they consciously blew out the German economy

33:26

by by forcing the Weimar government

33:28

to just print money infinitely, which

33:30

foreseeably just created hyperinflation,

33:33

which foreseeably was introduced, a

33:35

solution was introduced in the form of

33:37

bringing your water, your wheelbarrows full of useless

33:39

money, your your hikes marks. And my grandma

33:42

has these trillion dollar hikes marks that couldn't

33:44

buy bread. And you could bring them in and

33:46

trade that wheelbarrow for like this new renting mark that

33:48

Heilmar Schacht from the bank, you know, trained

33:50

by Montague Norman of the Bank of England was

33:52

happy to give you, but the new rented marks now

33:55

operated with a new set of rules that you had to abide by.

33:57

And normally people of Germany would not have gone along with

33:59

that. except that they were so shocked, you

34:01

know, shocked, therapyed that they were so desperate

34:04

to put some food on the table that they went along with anything. So

34:06

that's part of my trepidation. I mean, there's,

34:09

we've never experienced a systemic breakdown

34:11

of this magnitude that I

34:14

find it difficult to even imagine

34:16

what the steps are

34:18

going to be exactly. You can sort of see the elements, but

34:20

not exactly what the effect

34:22

is going to be. So

34:23

that's what I want to ask. I'm afraid of that

34:25

too. So I want to ask

34:28

what the panel thinks are the next

34:30

steps given that several banks

34:33

have failed. I also just want to preface that there

34:36

was,

34:36

because I'm a nerd that way, listen to

34:38

the hearing on accountability and transparency

34:41

at the IRS with the commissioner Wirfel,

34:43

it was like a four hour where they were

34:46

contemplating what they're going to do with all these armed

34:49

IRS agents amongst other things.

34:52

And before

34:53

you answer also what Charlie said,

34:55

I think I'm pretty sure it was in

34:58

Australia somewhere

35:00

where already you're not allowed to

35:02

keep your savings. Do you know Charlie? No,

35:07

I'm not. I'm not sure about that

35:09

in particular. So my question

35:11

is what do you guys think are,

35:14

how is this going to play out now? Well,

35:17

I was going to interject something here too. Like, I'm

35:19

definitely curious about your guys' thoughts on that. But

35:22

I was at an event a couple

35:24

of weekends ago with Catherine Austin Fitz

35:26

was the main speaker. And we all

35:28

know her work around cash only

35:31

and doing a lot of work, particularly here in Tennessee. And

35:34

one of the things that she had mentioned that I hadn't even heard

35:36

of was, I guess they're really working

35:38

behind the scenes to introduce a state

35:41

sovereign bank here in Tennessee. That

35:45

was a new concept to me. I put a link in

35:47

the chat earlier, but basically if anybody just goes and searches

35:49

sovereign bank, Tennessee, Solari,

35:52

Solari report solari.com. That's

35:54

her website, kind of breaks it down. They have like an

35:56

executive proposal. I

35:58

don't

35:58

know how far they've made it. it in or an executive

36:00

summary. I don't know how far they've made it as far

36:03

as any sort of legislature goes, but really

36:05

the whole bill talks about the idea. And

36:07

I guess it's based on the bank of North Dakota,

36:10

which is an old bank that acts as like

36:12

a central bank for the state itself. That

36:14

kind of like an intermediary between like the actual

36:17

federal reserve and smaller banks

36:19

within the state. So it kind of gives you like a

36:21

lot of like financial power, I guess within the state. I'm

36:23

not really familiar. Like, you know, I need to read up on a little

36:25

bit more, but it feels like like the way she was describing

36:27

it and talking about it, it sounds like a really great solution.

36:29

And also within this report, it talks a lot

36:32

about how it is kind of a, like

36:34

just a stronghold against CBDCs. Like,

36:36

this is a great way to head off

36:39

and intercede any form of like CBDC

36:41

that could be rolling out at a federal level. So if

36:44

this could get momentum, or if there was some sort of like

36:46

way to adopt these at a state level, you know, I feel

36:48

like that would be an awesome solution to head this off. But

36:51

yeah, as far as what's coming next, man, geez.

36:53

Is she working with, with Ellen Brown? I'm

36:56

not sure exactly who exactly she's

36:58

worked with. She would say there was a state senator from Tennessee

37:01

that was there. Grassley, I believe his name is.

37:03

And I met him. He was seemed pretty

37:06

legit. He's like this old farmer guy. And

37:08

he was the one that helped

37:11

push through the, the, what

37:13

was I think it was the bill

37:15

that made it illegal to require COVID

37:18

injections for any sort of employment, like,

37:20

like, you know, healthcare employment and stuff like that. So

37:23

anyway, so I mean, they're doing good work here

37:25

in Tennessee. I've

37:26

got to say we're every, it's like I'm from

37:28

Oregon and it was like every day you wake up and you read what the Oregon

37:30

government's doing. I'm just like, Oh my God. It was this

37:32

most demoralizing thing every single day. And

37:35

out here, it's like almost every day I read

37:37

about the news of what's going on in Tennessee. I'm like, yeah,

37:40

awesome. It's like, it's awesome. It's a complete

37:42

reversal. And it's because it happens at the

37:44

grassroots level. And that's right

37:46

now. That's the, well, what Kathy

37:49

says, Kathy says that the most important

37:51

thing is to act at your local level.

37:53

Yeah. A hundred percent. And you know, I really

37:55

feel it here. Like Tennessee's crushing. It's crazy.

37:59

Mariam, I can see a

37:59

scenario and there'll be multiple scenarios.

38:02

You asked how this thing rolls

38:04

out. I could see them

38:07

a continuation of these small

38:10

to medium-sized bank failures in

38:12

order to create instability

38:15

in the small and medium-sized bank

38:17

industry, lack of confidence in

38:20

them so that depositors

38:22

move

38:23

to the bigger banks where they feel safer.

38:25

And I know Catherine Oster-Fitz has mentioned this

38:27

too, sort of almost like a stampede, but get

38:30

people into those bigger banks.

38:32

Once they're in the bigger banks, there will be easier

38:34

to control, more centralized obviously, but

38:36

those banks are going to go along with the plan.

38:39

They're

38:40

all interconnected. So of course,

38:42

they'll do whatever the Fed

38:44

tells them to do. They're

38:47

all owned by the same people. You

38:49

know what I mean? So they're all on the same team.

38:53

But the small and regional banks, man,

38:55

those create problems. But if you

38:58

can give the impression to the general public

39:00

that those are unsafe places

39:02

to keep your money,

39:03

fuck, Deutsche Bank

39:06

is an unsafe place to keep

39:08

your money.

39:11

But the perception might

39:13

actually wind up becoming reality where they

39:15

are too big to fail

39:18

banks like Deutsche Bank that are just

39:20

teetering, but they're also

39:23

too big to fail. So the rules

39:25

get thrown out the window. And you may see

39:27

those banks actually surviving simply

39:29

because it's such a criminal conspiracy

39:32

to keep them afloat. So then

39:35

you get enough people in there, you

39:38

just lock the doors and you offer

39:41

the carrot first, right? You say,

39:43

well, we'll give you two Fed coins

39:45

for every one US dollar. We'll

39:47

do that for six months. Great deal. Then

39:50

it's one to one. Then it's 75 cents for one. And

39:54

then you're like, uh, oh, you know, and so

39:56

there's a whole lot of way. I don't think there's

39:59

just one way.

39:59

they're going to do it. I think the same way

40:02

they did with COVID, just increasingly

40:04

make it more difficult. First, incentivize you

40:07

with

40:07

Talladega laps and free

40:09

donuts, and then start

40:13

making it difficult on you. Any way

40:15

that they can, every way that they can. You

40:17

can't get your paycheck this way. You can't get the way

40:19

you can. Whatever it is, and just

40:21

start to fucking start

40:23

tightening the screws on everybody. That's

40:26

how they would do it, I would think. Is it

40:28

true that from what I've

40:30

read FedNow replaces Zelle,

40:32

replaces Cash App, replaces

40:36

these other forms? Have you read the

40:38

same thing?

40:39

Yeah, I've read the same thing. Yeah.

40:46

It's already up FedNow.

40:48

July is the official

40:50

wide rollout. Right

40:53

when the founder of Cash App got marked. Yeah.

40:56

Well, you know that. Already started a pilot

40:58

program. Somebody sent me an email that was sent an email

41:01

that if they signed up for the CBDC

41:03

pilot program, I believe through Wells Fargo,

41:06

that they would get $100.

41:09

Might

41:12

be that you get better interest rates on

41:14

a mortgage. It might just

41:16

be like, it's just like the social credit systems

41:19

in China, where it's like the higher

41:21

your score,

41:23

you get a discount if you want to rent that bike. You

41:25

get 15% off because your score is high enough.

41:27

So there's plenty of

41:29

ways to incentivize. You can push

41:31

them in, or you can pull them. You can just

41:34

open the doors and let them stampede in. Bring

41:36

your wheelbarrow full of cash and just trade

41:38

it in.

41:40

But there's always going to be an appetite outside

41:42

of the system. Because like

41:45

Steve was talking

41:46

about, like with devices and things

41:49

like that.

41:50

There's just going to be a black

41:53

market for shit and people are going to find a way,

41:55

whether they're trading bullets

41:57

or chickens or whatever.

41:59

they're going to find a way to transact with

42:02

one another without the government being involved in their business.

42:05

Ian was also saying that it's

42:07

going to be interoperable. So all of the,

42:10

it's really not only a stepping stone to

42:12

a cashless society, which I guess,

42:14

a lot of things have been, but also to

42:17

a global currency that doesn't appear

42:19

to be a global currency because each one will be

42:21

branded. And similarly with the banks,

42:23

they'll probably keep their brand, but they'll all be owned by

42:26

one. And he was also saying, it's the end of

42:28

fractional reserve banking that

42:30

you don't give the, you don't actually

42:33

give, it doesn't work where you just like distribute

42:35

treasuries or whatever, buy treasuries, whatever,

42:38

you, and then the banks loan

42:40

money and create that. The fed is going to create

42:42

the money independently. And then they

42:45

have to make some kind of deal with those banks,

42:49

co-op those banks, but you're right. I

42:51

mean, it's not going to be every little bank. It's going to be just

42:54

a few big banks, but they're going to look like this, a bunch

42:56

of little banks. So,

43:01

I can

43:01

foresee the system leaving us no other choice, but

43:06

to go into a global type

43:08

CBC. I've seen this for a long

43:10

time. You know, I've thought about how's the

43:12

new world order going to get everybody to comply?

43:15

Because right now people are going to

43:17

say, screw you.

43:19

But if they're starving and all

43:21

they have to do is go to the local grocery store, get

43:24

the quick plant implant of the chip into

43:26

them, sign up for the CBC, they can

43:28

go in and they can fill up the refrigerator.

43:32

And sadly,

43:35

I hope it doesn't come to pass to that, but

43:39

I can kind of see a method like that along

43:41

with,

43:42

you know, they've been talking about for a long time. I

43:45

remember reading this years ago,

43:47

where the exchange of currency into

43:49

whatever new currency they have is going to be,

43:52

I believe, some say it on a ratio. So today

43:54

you get a one for one.

43:57

Next month, well, it'll

43:59

be 90 to 100. one. And it'll just keep

44:01

going down until your money becomes

44:04

useless. Well, here in Costa

44:06

Rica, now they don't want to take

44:08

dollars. Usually you can pay with

44:10

Dolores. Now it's only colonis

44:13

because the dollar is

44:15

quickly taking a

44:18

dive to shit.

44:20

And also, since we are talking about banks,

44:23

I've been locked out of my Wells Fargo

44:26

account for, we're going on

44:28

two weeks now. So if you think like, oh, a single

44:30

woman in Central

44:33

America that can get for

44:35

shit, get anybody on the phone to help me,

44:37

literally have to go back to the United States

44:39

to authenticate myself. And I've

44:41

also been de-banked from Chase,

44:44

which is other little, you know, incremental

44:46

steps towards controlling,

44:49

you know, who gets to bank, who gets to have monies.

44:52

Is this just because of Costa Rica

44:55

and their restricting transactions?

44:59

No, I had someone embezzle $30,000

45:02

from a government loan that I hired

45:04

and I wanted to do a charge back.

45:07

And instead of classifying it as services

45:09

not rendered, they classified

45:12

them as fraud. And so I have absolutely

45:14

no online access.

45:17

Sorry, that's sad. In

45:19

New York City, there's already a bunch of places

45:21

that will not take anything but a card.

45:24

Like there's no cash accepted. They'd

45:26

say, even at my local supermarket, you won't get

45:29

change. So I mean, if it's happening

45:31

in New York

45:31

City, in local places that

45:33

you wouldn't realize until you walk in there and you think

45:36

like, why would this small

45:38

place? But then you realize it's not a small

45:40

place. It just has a small place name.

45:43

But New York right now, you can't get a

45:45

change if you

45:45

use cash in a lot of places.

45:47

It did the same thing in SF during the

45:50

first year of the Rona, and that

45:53

they didn't allow it. And then there's an actual

45:55

law that forbids homeless people

45:58

are allowed to use cash.

45:59

So yeah, that also

46:02

happened in SF.

46:03

One thing I was thinking that, and to

46:05

Matt's point about like how there were

46:08

barrels full of money in Germany, and I'm

46:10

thinking like every time there's a new dollar or

46:12

new currency rolled out, it's because the other currency

46:14

collapsed, usually because of out of

46:16

control debt. And I've been thinking for the

46:18

longest time, like $30 trillion of

46:21

national debt is like not,

46:23

you cannot, that's not going to be resolved

46:25

inside this paradigm. So

46:28

there's a chance that that will be

46:31

if a perceived or actual

46:33

banking collapse domino

46:35

effect doesn't create the crisis. Maybe

46:38

one of these years when they have like the debt crisis,

46:41

maybe they'll have a, you know, maybe the national

46:44

debt will just, you know, if interest,

46:46

they're really, by raising interest rates, when you have $30

46:48

trillion, like I don't know what

46:51

the average duration is of that

46:53

debt right now, but I mean, any of these

46:55

things could just snap into a crisis

46:58

situation. And then you get new dollar or,

47:00

you know, whatever digi dollar and it and

47:02

they'll, right.

47:03

They even said on the IMF, like in the beginning,

47:06

it's one to one and then it just has

47:08

a negative interest rate.

47:09

Cash is just negative or

47:12

a positive exchange rate or whatever progressive exchange

47:15

rate. So

47:18

I was just reading through here like MasterCard

47:20

and FedNow or they're

47:24

tied up the hip and it says MasterCard

47:27

is in a good position to roll out FedNow.

47:30

And so it should be an easy

47:32

switch over for people.

47:34

They won't notice, but then MasterCard also

47:36

noted that they're implementing

47:38

along with it generative AI

47:42

and that MasterCard can no longer ignore

47:44

the impact of AI and they're focusing

47:46

on generative AI

47:48

for some reason.

47:50

It's in the same article and generative AI

47:52

for anybody doesn't know this is AI that creates

47:54

text images

47:56

audio clips and in video.

47:59

So for some reason. MasterCard

48:01

is getting involved with that too.

48:02

I think MasterCard is a big World Economic

48:05

Forum partner. And in

48:07

this Ian Davis, some of these articles that he

48:09

wrote, he did mention that because banks

48:12

and I'm like counting that as a bank basically,

48:15

or how it would work is that because they're going to be shut

48:17

out of the fractional reserve thing, they're going to be

48:20

basically public private partners with

48:22

the CBDC because they are

48:24

the kind of like the face of it. And

48:27

they're just going to kind of integrate with it

48:29

basically.

48:30

So what it says right here, MasterCard

48:33

already uses AI and incorporating

48:35

generative AI, noting

48:38

it does so already to create data sets

48:40

used to compare and find threats in

48:43

cybersecurity.

48:44

So there you go. They're looking

48:46

for... They also have a credit card that measures

48:49

your carbon output. They're the first, they're

48:51

in a pilot program with the World Economic Forum

48:53

doing that. So MasterCard is deeply

48:55

involved in this bullshit. Not

49:02

necessarily related to MasterCard,

49:04

but in kind of a way related

49:06

to the generative AI. Vice

49:09

just announced that they're filing for bankruptcy.

49:12

Oh, what a shit. They're going to be rolling up. This

49:16

is after Buzzfeed, of course, did

49:18

the same thing, laid off a whole bunch of their stuff

49:20

and a number of other middling

49:24

news outlets that

49:27

are going the same route. We talked on the

49:29

show a month or two ago about how

49:31

with Ryan about how

49:34

by 2025 they were saying 80

49:39

to 90%, approaching 90% of all

49:41

online content is going to be

49:44

AI generated in terms of articles

49:46

you read, in terms of the news reports

49:49

that they put out. It's

49:51

all going to be, what

49:54

do you call it? Even

49:57

less real than it currently is for the vast

49:59

majority.

49:59

of these reports. It's been written

50:02

on NPCs for a while. Yeah,

50:05

that's what I was going to say, Charlie. I think

50:07

that we've already reached 80% of

50:10

artificially generated content on the

50:12

internet. Yeah.

50:15

Well, that's a fair... I mean,

50:17

how organic

50:20

or genuine is the content in the first place

50:22

of all the vast majority of

50:24

these outlets are doing is taking an

50:27

AP or a Reuters news

50:29

blurb

50:30

and then generating 500 to 750 words

50:32

on that and

50:35

then moving to the next, oh, I need a poll quote

50:38

from generic general A

50:41

through

50:42

B or A through C or whatever. I

50:44

need a poll quote from CEO A through

50:46

D. It's

50:50

always just a loop

50:53

of bullshit that

50:56

in and of itself is inauthentic

50:58

to begin with. Yeah, that's exactly

51:00

how it works. Having worked at MSNBC,

51:03

having access to the wires, and

51:05

then you really have to go above and beyond,

51:08

which I always did to get an original

51:10

quote, but you have your parameters

51:12

and if you learn, let's say, like with George Floyd,

51:15

April Moss was Project Veritas

51:17

whistleblower. Like day two

51:19

or three, we're going to stand behind BLM

51:22

and her saying, but we haven't even done

51:25

an investigation. So they're

51:27

doled out and now you're going to have arguably

51:29

this AI. I've

51:31

already spotted AI articles where

51:34

they repeat over and over and then I

51:36

was actually looking maybe I can get a job

51:39

humanizing the AI because I can take shit

51:41

copy and make it sound really good. Maybe that's

51:43

the future for me. For people like me

51:45

who are truly independent,

51:48

there's

51:51

really no future because nobody

51:53

wants to hire me even though I'm a fucking excellent

51:56

journalist.

51:57

I'm asking for a friend, but

51:59

would you like to talk to me about that? Digital currency, how

52:01

would you pay for a lap dance? Hmm.

52:05

Right.

52:06

I think you'll be able to. I think it'll be just

52:08

like you can zap people because today I wanted

52:10

to tip somebody and I didn't have cash and I was

52:13

like, Oh, as soon as it's going to be no cash. And

52:15

I think what they said you would do is just,

52:18

you know, like air drop it into

52:20

into. Well, these are lap dances in the

52:22

metaverse, right? Oh, yeah,

52:25

that's right. Lap dance, of course. How do you

52:27

get a lap dance from a stripper that has no

52:29

legs? I'm seeing a metaverse.

52:32

I've seen this. I'm not buying it.

52:34

Yeah, they took all the legs off the people

52:37

in the metaverse, didn't they? Because everyone was getting

52:39

like touchy. Really?

52:43

Why? Yeah, I think they

52:45

created personal space. They created

52:47

like a little like

52:49

a field of like you can get there. There

52:51

was sexual harassment in the A.I. Starting

52:54

already. I

52:56

love it. It's just perfect. It's

52:58

perfect. It's the perfect encapsulation of this

53:00

world that there's sexual harassment in the

53:02

metaverse immediately.

53:05

And that will be broken.

53:08

It'll be rape and prison sentences in the metaverse.

53:11

Not not to change gears, but

53:13

I'd love to get some of your guys's opinion on

53:16

Robert Kennedy Jr. running for president.

53:19

And, you

53:20

know, just basically just in general

53:22

what you guys think about it. I know many of us

53:25

have I mean, I've been in contact with them throughout the years

53:28

and, you know, obviously he's been on many

53:31

shows in the alternative

53:33

media community because he's been so outspoken

53:35

in regards to vaccines and

53:37

big pharma. And he's been censored.

53:40

And, you know, it's kind of wild to

53:42

think that he was one of those names

53:44

that were, you know, on a blacklist

53:46

of people to censor. And now he's being

53:48

kind of interviewed everywhere, even though they are still

53:50

censoring him a bit. But what's

53:53

everybody's opinion? I mean, is there any

53:55

good that could come out of this or are some

53:58

of you guys skeptical or, you know, what?

53:59

Well, of course we're skeptical.

54:03

Of course. Right? I mean, I could

54:05

say two things. One is it's

54:08

time for another Kennedy monument.

54:11

Okay. And then the

54:13

other thing is, well, I mean, Kennedy

54:15

does represent a certain faction of the establishment

54:18

too. So

54:20

I just have no confidence we

54:22

might get something that

54:24

we like, but I think it's

54:26

going to still hit down the road. It's

54:28

headed down. Yeah.

54:32

I just shared a

54:34

little interview that I did with this talented

54:38

analyst named Fox green who runs the space

54:40

commune anti-malthusian

54:42

geopolitical analyst. And he wrote a little thing

54:46

on RFK

54:49

juniors energy policy,

54:51

which is a little bit

54:53

too in harmony with some of the core

54:56

ideals being set forth by the great

54:58

reset green new deal agenda that wants

55:00

to decarbonize the world in tandem

55:02

with this whole

55:04

fear porn thing over the pandemic, which

55:06

I find is a compelling worthwhile

55:09

thing to hold in mind because, you know, like

55:12

I think that personally, Bobby

55:14

Kennedy Jr. is an authentic human being who

55:17

I think that's better than a lot of the

55:20

technocratic zombies who are just wired to

55:22

do one thing, which is like act according

55:24

to their programming. Like, you know, you could sort

55:26

of smell them, right? The Obama, the Justin Trudeau

55:29

type, Kristia Freeland type, unidirectional,

55:32

like zombies.

55:35

I think that that

55:37

Kennedy is a human,

55:39

but he's really almost religiously

55:41

devoted to his decarbonization fantasy,

55:44

which if you do that, like if you do those

55:47

things that he wants for a reformed

55:50

energy policy for the world, I think

55:52

it's going to be a genocidal,

55:54

like the necessary means

55:57

of sustaining energy and, you know, the means of

55:59

production to sustain

55:59

human population, at least at its current living

56:02

standards, but ideally you'd want better, but that's all

56:04

going to be contracted.

56:06

So I think that he can learn, but

56:08

he needs people around him who are able to,

56:10

I think, kick his ass in a loving way

56:12

a little bit and educate him. So I'm sort

56:14

of taking that angle because I do think he does represent

56:16

the potential reawakening of something authentic

56:19

in American, you

56:20

know, there's something about JFK,

56:23

RFK that represented something worthy

56:26

that has been forgotten, which could feasibly

56:28

be revived.

56:29

Just like I see in Trump's

56:32

base, something that is viable

56:34

and moral in America

56:37

that has to be organized

56:39

in a more coherent way because they're very confused

56:41

people.

56:42

But if there's anything that's going to survive in

56:44

the U or cause the U.S. to survive the current

56:46

fascist, you know, depopulation agenda

56:48

in my analysis, it's from those.

56:51

Kennedy revival,

56:56

you know, that which R.K. Jr. is

56:58

tapping into and that which which Trump is

57:00

kind of tapping into from the Lincoln spirit

57:02

of the Republican Party long past. But

57:05

other than that, I don't see anything viable in the U.S. Let

57:07

me let me ask a question in

57:10

terms of RFK's vaccine

57:12

position. I

57:14

would I would like to present

57:17

a very generous interpretation

57:19

of a conversation that he had with Piers Morgan

57:21

recently where the issue

57:24

came up. And he does the

57:25

thing that he has done from day

57:28

one, which is, hey, hey, hey,

57:30

whoa, let's just stop.

57:32

I am not anti-vax.

57:35

I am, you know, XYZ. There

57:37

needs to be testing. There needs

57:39

to be a better regulatory

57:41

system. There needs to be this apparatus

57:43

that comes in play. Does that whole spiel

57:46

tells the joke? You know, I want

57:48

mercury out of fish, but nobody calls me

57:50

anti-fish, which

57:53

is a fantastic joke. And he

57:55

should keep it every plate. That's that's a great point.

57:57

It is. I don't want mercury in fish.

58:00

I want mercury out of fish, not anti-fish.

58:02

I just want you to stop putting the crap in, you

58:04

know. But

58:07

that's his stance and it has very

58:09

long been. Now here's the thing, we

58:12

know that you can't put vaccine commercials

58:14

on TV because by law you've got to

58:16

list the side effects.

58:19

And even though they do it at a million

58:21

miles an hour at the end of the commercial for whatever

58:23

antidepressant, weight loss, heart, medical, whatever

58:25

it is,

58:26

they still have to do

58:28

it. It's why you're never going to see a COVID

58:30

shot advertised on the air because they can't

58:32

come out and say it. In the same way

58:35

if RFK Jr. is sitting there

58:37

saying, look I just want them to be

58:40

able to pass the same test that

58:42

you would for any other medication,

58:45

is that a generous interpretation for

58:48

I know if they tried they would never be

58:50

able to present a product like this on the

58:52

market because it would never see the light of

58:54

day or is it him

58:57

really wanting to bring in more

59:00

bureaucracy, testing, regulation,

59:03

this, that and the other. And I'm asking

59:05

genuinely because I don't know.

59:08

I think that he knows that they

59:11

don't want

59:12

actual testing of vaccines. I mean,

59:14

Del Bigtree has been pushing the same thing.

59:16

It's like, it's not, you know,

59:18

just say that you're anti-vaxxers to say that you

59:20

cannot create a say

59:23

vaccine. And I think. I

59:25

don't know about that. That's that might be going a little too

59:27

far for that definition.

59:29

Well, no, what I'm saying is that like that's

59:31

not what they they want to be considered.

59:33

Like they're not saying basically like

59:36

my interpretation to RFK Jr. when

59:38

he when he says these things he's saying like

59:40

I'm not anti-vaxx. In other words, like

59:42

I'm not saying that you can't have a

59:46

a vaccine that's not harmful. But

59:49

in in regards to the ones that are available,

59:52

the testing sucks or their lack of

59:54

testing. They've suppressed information.

59:56

They suppress studies, you know, obviously with

59:59

the CDC whistleblower. and Dr. Brian

1:00:01

Hooker and that whole story. I

1:00:03

mean, it's just, I

1:00:06

think he's kind of like just, he tiptoes

1:00:08

the line a little bit because he's just saying like, maybe

1:00:10

potentially you could make a safe and

1:00:13

somewhat effective vaccine, but the ones we have

1:00:15

aren't that. And I think that's what he's trying

1:00:17

to say. And I agree with him. I mean,

1:00:20

he jumped into this whole vaccine debate

1:00:23

kicking and screaming. He didn't want anything to do with it. He's

1:00:25

been-

1:00:26

He's injured, he's vaccine injured. That's why

1:00:28

his voice is that way. It's because of a vaccine.

1:00:31

And there was a parent that went

1:00:34

to his Cape Cod home and

1:00:36

brought him information and said, I don't care

1:00:38

what you do with this, but

1:00:41

I want you to read this and drop it off

1:00:43

on his porch or whatnot. And a lot

1:00:45

of these people have similar stories. Like they,

1:00:48

it's same thing with

1:00:50

Wakefield, right? Dr. Wakefield, he wasn't one

1:00:53

that went into this topic

1:00:55

and said, hey, I wanna be the spokesperson for

1:00:58

these anti-vaxxers. It's like, okay, people

1:01:00

were coming up to him and then he saw some correlation.

1:01:03

And next thing you know, he became the face of the

1:01:05

movement. But I think with RFK, like in

1:01:07

regards to that, like he's, you

1:01:10

might not agree with him on some things, especially

1:01:12

with the energy perspective,

1:01:15

he's been very anti-big chemical,

1:01:18

just like he's been very anti-big pharma.

1:01:20

And he's been a part of a lot of

1:01:22

lawsuits. He's been a part of a

1:01:25

lot of that stuff. So maybe his perspective

1:01:27

on how to fix some of this is a little

1:01:29

bit, you know, too pro government,

1:01:31

you know, cause I mean, he still wants to run as a Democrat.

1:01:34

And I love what Kim Iverson did. She pushed

1:01:37

back a little bit, told him like, during

1:01:39

the interview, like I have zero faith in

1:01:42

the Democratic party. I don't know why you do. And

1:01:45

I am a little skeptical of why he's

1:01:47

running as a Democrat. Obviously his family

1:01:50

has represented that party for a long time.

1:01:52

Maybe he doesn't, he thinks

1:01:54

he can create a Democratic party

1:01:56

that people can believe in or whatnot.

1:02:00

But at the end of the day, I give

1:02:03

him a lot of credit for the things that he's

1:02:05

done, even though I disagree with him on many

1:02:08

things. I think you can't take

1:02:10

away the fact that he's been bashed

1:02:12

by every media. He's

1:02:15

been censored just as much as any of us. And

1:02:20

he was pushing back on vaccines when now

1:02:22

it's a little bit more socially acceptable because of

1:02:24

what the COVID vaccine and everything

1:02:27

that's happened the last couple of years has exposed. But

1:02:30

prior to that, I mean, Miriam and

1:02:32

many other people who've been down this rabbit hole,

1:02:35

this vaccine rabbit hole for a long time, it

1:02:37

was like one of the most taboo topics

1:02:40

to even bring up. I mean, people got very emotional,

1:02:42

people got very upset. I

1:02:45

mean, you were labeled immediately a conspiracy

1:02:47

theorist. The people thought that there was no

1:02:49

reason whatsoever, not even a little bit

1:02:52

of reason to doubt the signs behind

1:02:54

vaccines. And now, like I said, it's more socially acceptable

1:02:57

to do so. But he was doing it when

1:02:59

it was very hard to do

1:03:01

so. And as a public figure

1:03:03

who obviously has that Kennedy

1:03:05

name, I mean, he knows it was

1:03:07

kind of political suicide to do so and he did

1:03:10

it anyway. So I give him some credit

1:03:12

for that. I mean, who the hell would run

1:03:14

that we couldn't poke holes at

1:03:16

either their ideologies or their past

1:03:19

or whatever? I mean, if any of us ran,

1:03:21

especially Steve, I'm kidding, there'd

1:03:23

be plenty of things to

1:03:25

poke holes at.

1:03:27

I'm gonna go way, way further down the rabbit

1:03:29

hole than you, Ricky, I'm sorry. I

1:03:31

might join you, Monica, go ahead. Yeah,

1:03:33

I'm gonna say- I'm already there, but this is

1:03:36

fun as hell. Steve, I gotta tell

1:03:38

you. So you

1:03:39

know why, I think why Brandy

1:03:41

Vaughn named her, her

1:03:43

organization Learn the Risk.

1:03:45

She didn't like people who were

1:03:48

emphasizing medical freedom

1:03:51

because she said it's not about freedom

1:03:53

of choice, it's about these things are toxic

1:03:55

poison and the freedom of choice. And

1:03:58

I mean, everyone I know in the medical freedom movement.

1:03:59

I, you know, I have no reason

1:04:02

to question them at all. Like I, they're,

1:04:04

I mean, this is their moms and I've met a lot

1:04:06

of them and they're all for it.

1:04:08

But that's why she

1:04:10

said, learn the risk because she said that that those

1:04:12

are the people who are derailing moms.

1:04:15

And, you know, that people's

1:04:17

from understanding that it's totally toxic. And

1:04:19

if he's saying like he wants more testing

1:04:22

and stuff, is he emphasizing

1:04:25

that they should lift the liability shield? Because

1:04:28

that would be the key rallying cry

1:04:30

that would make me feel like that was more,

1:04:33

you know, that's what people need to be saying if he's not saying

1:04:35

that. Yeah. And

1:04:38

who, sorry, who put the 1986 act

1:04:40

in, who was, I think Ted was involved,

1:04:43

but wasn't Ted Kennedy involved? Oh, probably.

1:04:47

But I just, one more thing, which is that

1:04:49

what Matt was saying about like Trump hijacked

1:04:52

this incoherent body of people with good values. I

1:04:55

think what he actually did was hijack a very

1:04:57

coherent Ron Paul movement and

1:05:00

made it like not viable. And

1:05:04

I would say if R.F.K. is running

1:05:06

as Democrat and there is a parallel between him and

1:05:08

Trump, what it would be is you

1:05:10

take these like cognitive

1:05:12

dissonance elements of the new

1:05:14

left of like the new fascist

1:05:17

vaccine pushing left. And you find

1:05:20

this old left that, yes,

1:05:22

they believe in the safety net or they, you

1:05:24

know, they believe in collective whatever. But

1:05:26

they also understand that war is crap. The

1:05:28

Ukraine thing of Vax mandate. Who is

1:05:31

going to who is going to keep a Ron

1:05:33

Paul from coming up in that, you

1:05:35

know, reuniting them in a coherent ideology?

1:05:38

Because I call like the basket of deplorables versus

1:05:41

the basket of irrationals. But those

1:05:43

are not like a Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Like those

1:05:45

are two different things. And so I'm

1:05:47

not saying I really know enough about R.F.K. But like

1:05:50

what Ricky is saying, who would ever do this? Well, look,

1:05:53

it is kind of working. So maybe

1:05:55

he's just a little bit, you know, or

1:05:57

his people or whatever, just a little bit longer.

1:05:59

longer term thinkers. So

1:06:03

you have to I mean, if you take him

1:06:05

at his word, if you take him at his

1:06:07

word, he RFK, Jr.

1:06:09

He sees the Democrat Party

1:06:12

as the vehicle through which

1:06:15

change can affect the most

1:06:17

amount of people. That's what he thinks.

1:06:19

And I we're,

1:06:23

it's May 1, 2023, we're

1:06:26

almost six years

1:06:28

removed, seven years removed from the DNC

1:06:31

fraud lawsuit, we're in court, the

1:06:33

DNC zone attorneys said

1:06:36

if we want to, we can pick the candidates in a smokefield

1:06:38

backroom. Technically, there's no such

1:06:40

thing as a Democrat. So the primary process

1:06:43

is a fundraising mechanism.

1:06:46

It has nothing to do

1:06:48

with us actually selecting

1:06:50

the

1:06:51

candidate. That's something that we do at

1:06:53

the convention, it takes place over a five

1:06:55

day period from this day to this day.

1:06:58

That's when we pick our candidate.

1:07:00

Primary process has,

1:07:03

you know, it is it's an ancillary this

1:07:05

all came out in court. So to

1:07:08

and they already said they're not going to have debates.

1:07:10

If the DNC allows

1:07:13

RFK Jr. to run through them,

1:07:15

there's a couple of things that need to happen. He has to

1:07:17

sign a loyalty pledge to the party.

1:07:19

We all know this, it's been discussed ad nauseam

1:07:22

for years now. We've I'm

1:07:24

pretty sure most of us have seen it. But

1:07:26

it's also the reason Tulsi Gabbard came out

1:07:29

and endorsed Joe Biden the same reason. Well,

1:07:31

one of the reasons Bernie Sanders did it. The other

1:07:33

is that his hip hop name is sheep doggy dog.

1:07:36

The I see very similar

1:07:38

things

1:07:40

with the Trump movement and

1:07:42

the you know, who like Monica was saying, you

1:07:45

get a lot of really well intentioned

1:07:47

people

1:07:48

right into that duopoly where

1:07:50

if there's ever an act blue

1:07:53

donate link showing up on RFK's

1:07:55

website, we all know what that money's for

1:07:58

the the D

1:07:59

DNC itself as the

1:08:02

whole reason they got sued was because

1:08:05

people were donating to Bernie thinking

1:08:07

it was going to Bernie Through the

1:08:09

DNC donate links and the DNC's

1:08:12

like no dude We put that

1:08:14

in a slush fund to pay off all

1:08:16

the people that needed to dig holes for

1:08:18

all the people that didn't like Hillary Clinton

1:08:21

like that's where that money goes

1:08:22

Candidate no So

1:08:25

it'll be really interesting to see

1:08:28

the mechanisms by which

1:08:30

he tries to push a democratic

1:08:33

party run Because all

1:08:35

of these things are in arguably

1:08:37

true and all of these things are how

1:08:39

the party itself runs the election which

1:08:42

unfortunately has

1:08:45

Nothing to do with what the candidate stands

1:08:47

for what they want done or who they are

1:08:50

as a person rightly wrongly

1:08:52

wonderful human being absolute wretch

1:08:55

well,

1:08:55

I think he'll probably end up like Tulsi

1:08:58

or Bernie or Ron Paul

1:09:00

where they end up running as a You

1:09:03

know a part of one of the two parties because

1:09:05

they know that that's the best

1:09:07

way to succeed Eventually

1:09:11

if they can't be controlled then

1:09:13

they'll end up like I said like Bernie and Tulsi

1:09:16

and Ron were You know where they

1:09:18

don't end up winning or doing anything or they don't talk

1:09:20

about them They don't get the help by it You

1:09:23

know the establishment and the elites like

1:09:25

the other ones who can be controlled and will

1:09:27

take the money So I mean, I don't I

1:09:30

that's kind of the way I see it. I you know you there's

1:09:33

Dennis Kucinich Ron Paul I

1:09:35

mean, these are all names of people that

1:09:37

I think we like much better than then

1:09:39

many of the elite They stand for something

1:09:42

they believe in something at least and and that's

1:09:44

the thing like I think why Kennedy's getting a little

1:09:46

bit Attention is the same reason

1:09:48

why Bernie and Trump got a lot of attention

1:09:50

and support because They seem

1:09:53

like they're different than the cookie

1:09:55

cutter politician. We've been getting it doesn't mean different

1:09:57

is good It doesn't mean different is better

1:10:00

but it's different. And I think people just like that

1:10:02

people have been so tired of the same

1:10:04

old same old that you know

1:10:06

anything that seems slightly different people

1:10:09

are kind of you know attracted to.

1:10:12

I always think they have one job

1:10:14

and I'm not

1:10:15

I so I love that analysis

1:10:18

Steve and you know I agree with you

1:10:20

Ricky that these guys they make certain compromises

1:10:22

wherever they run in the party and we are presented

1:10:25

with this a big machine or an

1:10:28

ideological figurehead. But

1:10:30

I have long thought they each

1:10:33

each one only has one job

1:10:35

so I thought Obama

1:10:38

was the surveillance president. I

1:10:40

thought that

1:10:43

Trump was going to be the censorship president and

1:10:45

now I think he was the Vax president because

1:10:47

of the warp speed and if

1:10:50

RFK like had one thing to do

1:10:52

I would think to Matt's point

1:10:54

that it would be the green

1:10:57

energy thing. And so why would he

1:10:59

you know do the cause of the Vax

1:11:01

whatever is to get the trust of the people who

1:11:03

are skeptical and it's possible that more

1:11:06

way more people are skeptical than

1:11:09

we even know. And

1:11:10

I mean I even think they suppress our numbers. I'm telling

1:11:12

us in the lumber store today and somebody

1:11:15

walks up to me and said I recognize your voice or you Monica

1:11:17

Perez.

1:11:18

Wow. It was the craziest

1:11:21

thing ever happened to me like ever and

1:11:23

I was just blown away and it was

1:11:25

also like I had one other

1:11:28

similar situation and I'm just thinking

1:11:30

more

1:11:31

more people listening than it

1:11:33

looks like because the

1:11:36

odds of that happening would be astronomical

1:11:40

if people aren't listening more

1:11:42

than then it looks like to us. I

1:11:45

think maybe

1:11:45

there are more people who are skeptical and just

1:11:47

think what happened to Ron Paul when he was running like he

1:11:49

won Iowa fucking one Iowa

1:11:52

like he won it. You know actually

1:11:55

so I think there are more people that they have to control

1:11:58

and if they can get trust they have.

1:11:59

one job, they get one guy

1:12:02

to get the trust of the people. And

1:12:04

you're like, well, he's got that green thing, but he's a

1:12:06

Democrat. You know, whatever you got to give him a pass on the

1:12:08

green thing. It's like you got to give, you know, I said to my mother

1:12:10

about the warp speech. It's like, you got to give him a pass on that

1:12:12

because he's so good and everything else. I was like, that's

1:12:14

the only thing that mattered. That was his job.

1:12:17

And he did it. So I'm just, you know,

1:12:19

playing the my question is how are

1:12:21

the Democrats because

1:12:23

independents and even Republicans

1:12:27

because of the vaccine stance

1:12:29

can stand behind him. So I'm

1:12:31

just curious if you all know what so

1:12:35

far, what the reception has been

1:12:37

from the actual Democrats. Like

1:12:41

I said, we're in the base. He's

1:12:45

been polling well, whatever the hell that

1:12:47

means. So

1:12:50

most

1:12:51

of most of the Democrats

1:12:53

don't like Joe Biden. They all have to pretend

1:12:55

that they like Joe Biden

1:12:57

and they all have to rally around whoever

1:13:00

the party tells them their their

1:13:02

guy is and then it's their job to invent

1:13:05

reasons as to why they actually like

1:13:08

this person that they clearly don't like.

1:13:10

But they so it's

1:13:13

going to be I mean,

1:13:15

right now, I saw Joe Biden was around 60 percent.

1:13:18

Is what we're talking about here, dead and

1:13:20

RFK Junior, 19 percent, almost 20 percent, something

1:13:23

like that at this point this early

1:13:26

out. And the only other person that's even

1:13:28

talking about running right now is

1:13:30

Oprah's freaking

1:13:32

new age. Dingbat,

1:13:35

Marianne Williamson, whatever lady Michael.

1:13:41

Oh, and Afro man. So

1:13:44

there's still hope with it, but he's not running as

1:13:46

a Democrat.

1:13:47

I want to talk about the warp speed

1:13:49

thing, because this is the danger of putting

1:13:52

somebody like Trump in office is

1:13:54

I don't I don't know if he I

1:13:57

honestly thought he was going to be the anti-vac.

1:13:59

the first one because

1:14:02

during the debates with what was a doctor,

1:14:04

Ben Carson, whoever the doctor was that

1:14:07

he was a debate and

1:14:09

Ben Carson, right? And I remember once

1:14:11

they were trying to make Trump look bad during

1:14:14

one of the debates and they brought up the vaccine topic because

1:14:16

they thought, okay, mainstream

1:14:18

doctor like Ben Carson, who has a PhD

1:14:20

and, you know, believes in you know, modern

1:14:23

medicine and all this stuff, he'll push

1:14:25

back on this. So they brought up the Trump's

1:14:27

perspective and opinions on vaccines and Trump

1:14:31

stood his ground and he actually said like, hey,

1:14:34

like, no, I believe that kids are getting too

1:14:36

many vaccines and I know people who've been injured

1:14:38

by him or whatever. And, and they

1:14:40

thought the Dr. Ben Carson was gonna,

1:14:43

you know, kind of push back on what Trump said. And instead

1:14:46

he actually said he's like, you know what, in regards to that, I think

1:14:49

he you know, there is something there that maybe we could

1:14:51

be giving kids too many vaccines at

1:14:53

a too young of an age. And I'm like, okay, this

1:14:55

is a step in the right direction. Then there

1:14:57

was a meeting with Robert Kennedy

1:15:00

Jr. Del Bigtree and I believe

1:15:02

Dr. Fauci was there and Trump

1:15:05

got them all together or something like that. And, and

1:15:07

they talked about it about, you know, vaccines

1:15:10

specifically. So it's like, it's all steps

1:15:13

in the right direction. But the problem with Trump is

1:15:15

that nothing is more important to him

1:15:17

than popularity. So at

1:15:20

if, you know, if it helped his, his,

1:15:23

you know, his

1:15:25

base,

1:15:25

yeah, his base to I know, like, that's

1:15:28

the word that I got stuck on. If it's,

1:15:31

if it helped his base to, to, you

1:15:33

know, to be outspoken on vaccines,

1:15:35

then he'll be outspoken. But and then if

1:15:38

it helps, you know, his popularity to say,

1:15:40

Hey, I got this vaccine through because everybody wanted

1:15:42

it, then he'll help push that vaccine through.

1:15:44

So you, you know, that's the thing about having

1:15:47

somebody that actually believes in something is

1:15:49

that even if I disagree with them, I know who

1:15:51

they are as a person. And I, you know,

1:15:53

I know where they stand on on issues.

1:15:56

And I think that's why people like Ron, Ron

1:15:58

Paul. That's why people liked Ralph

1:16:00

Nader, that's why people, because it's like, okay,

1:16:02

at least I don't agree with him, but at least

1:16:04

I know what I'm getting. Where like with

1:16:06

a Trump, it's like, it's who, you know, the

1:16:09

joke is always like his opinion is based on

1:16:11

the last person he spoke to. Like they, that's

1:16:13

how much influence he can have and how much

1:16:15

he flip stops.

1:16:16

Well, Bill gave me an answer into that,

1:16:19

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

1:16:21

Yeah, because

1:16:23

he met with Trump and then told him that everything- He said,

1:16:26

he said, that's a non-starter. Yep.

1:16:28

That's not going to work. And that

1:16:30

was the end of it. Well, Bill Gates got involved,

1:16:32

right? Bill Gates got involved. That's the Gates Foundation.

1:16:35

That's Rockefeller, that's

1:16:37

Gates, that's the octopus. That's,

1:16:39

they tell Trump,

1:16:42

we're not, you're not working with this anti-vax

1:16:45

guy. Not now,

1:16:46

not during COVID. Let me ask you guys one question. Just

1:16:49

a quick question. Do you guys think if

1:16:52

Trump had gotten in for

1:16:54

a second term, do

1:16:56

you think that he would have followed through on

1:16:59

his pledge to getting the US out

1:17:01

of the World Health Organization? Or

1:17:04

is that something that he just threw out there

1:17:06

in the moment to get people excited

1:17:09

or something like that at the

1:17:11

end phase of his first term?

1:17:15

Well, it's an interesting thought

1:17:18

experiment because a Trump that

1:17:20

doesn't have to worry about a reelection

1:17:22

is

1:17:23

a really interesting

1:17:25

dude. A guy who could just say,

1:17:28

there's no repercussions for this. But

1:17:31

do you think that he's really like keeled

1:17:33

over and didn't want to get that second

1:17:35

term?

1:17:37

I mean, I don't think he loves

1:17:39

the World Health Organization. I think

1:17:42

maybe he would enjoy throwing a monkey

1:17:44

wrench in there, but I don't know. He's

1:17:46

also so bought

1:17:48

and sold. How would you?

1:17:51

But I'm saying, do you think that he consciously

1:17:53

sabotaged himself so that he knew he wasn't

1:17:55

gonna have a second term already? That

1:17:57

was sort of what he was. Is that what you were saying?

1:18:00

No, no, I wasn't saying that I was

1:18:02

just saying that if he did get a second term,

1:18:04

he'd be an interesting guy He just would

1:18:07

have there just be almost no checks and balances

1:18:09

on him anymore. I

1:18:11

think that if he was serious about

1:18:14

That's true. I think that if

1:18:16

he was serious about challenging his election,

1:18:19

he wouldn't have gone the route

1:18:21

that he did

1:18:23

with the particular defense and

1:18:26

Defense team that he did or legal

1:18:28

team that he did

1:18:30

I think that there were no there's always

1:18:32

a number of valid ways to challenge

1:18:34

the election if he has That

1:18:37

kind of momentum going into it

1:18:40

the manner in which and then the things

1:18:42

that they tried to get standing for And

1:18:46

what they were using as their evidence

1:18:49

was all just super flimsy,

1:18:51

you know We found out going

1:18:54

I'm sorry really quickly and you found out in

1:18:56

the next, you know couple ensuing years Especially

1:18:59

where zone is concerned especially

1:19:01

where Michigan, Wisconsin and a

1:19:04

couple other places On

1:19:06

a smaller scale where there was serious

1:19:08

election fuckery going on that

1:19:11

not only did everybody know the whole time But

1:19:14

it was just a slog

1:19:15

through the court system in order

1:19:17

to get it to come out a little bit more public Well,

1:19:20

Trump could have done the exact same

1:19:22

thing to the point to where he had

1:19:24

the entire National Republican

1:19:26

apparatus behind him to

1:19:28

accept really a handful of people that still

1:19:30

like Mike Pence or Lindsey Graham But they

1:19:32

also had all of the momentum

1:19:35

of the country behind him or at

1:19:37

least half of it going into it What that would

1:19:39

have stood behind him for a ton

1:19:41

of legal challenges had he stuck it out

1:19:43

In fact, I was there in DC that

1:19:45

day. A lot of people were screaming for it They

1:19:48

really wanted him to keep fighting

1:19:50

until the absolute it Legally

1:19:53

for the most part and definitely via

1:19:55

the court system for the most part,

1:19:57

but they didn't want any sort of half

1:19:59

challenged the way that Powell

1:20:02

and Rudy and those guys were presenting it. And

1:20:04

in Georgia, they had a good local

1:20:07

team that was doing it and they told him, stand

1:20:10

down, we're going to take care of it, wait for us to do it. And

1:20:12

they literally missed the deadline

1:20:14

to file and then the local guys couldn't.

1:20:18

I want to just add that someone

1:20:21

had

1:20:22

presented the point that if we were

1:20:24

to pull out of the of who, then

1:20:27

who is really in charge? The

1:20:29

Gates Foundation, in other words, we

1:20:31

then have less America, has

1:20:34

less of a voice as to which direction

1:20:36

who goes to. And that when

1:20:39

we did pull out of the who, Trump gave a

1:20:42

lot of money to Gavi, which

1:20:44

is Bill Gates. And having watched,

1:20:47

I'm sure you did too, I watched every

1:20:49

talk that the president gave.

1:20:55

And it's always like

1:20:57

just hinting, hinting to the people. And the people

1:20:59

are like, is he for the vaccine? Is he anti-vax?

1:21:04

Whereas before I had collected all

1:21:06

of his tweets and Barron

1:21:09

is arguably vaccine injured. And

1:21:11

then if you remember in Miami, they

1:21:13

even did the wave to get Fauci

1:21:16

out and they were chanting during one of the rallies.

1:21:19

And he said, well, wait, so I just

1:21:21

think it's it's pretending.

1:21:22

This is mafia.

1:21:25

When you get this close, you have

1:21:27

they dictate what's what's going on. So

1:21:30

that's

1:21:31

my very black pill. You

1:21:34

know, he's still to this day. I mean,

1:21:37

again, I'll make this point. The reawakened

1:21:38

tour. Eric Trump is part

1:21:41

of it. Most of the people are not

1:21:43

toting the vaccine. That's

1:21:45

his son.

1:21:47

But Trump is still very proud

1:21:49

of Operation Warp Speed. So

1:21:51

what's really going on? Is it all political theater?

1:21:54

But don't you think that's like an ego thing? Like

1:21:57

he has the biggest ego ever. Like I just think he.

1:21:59

He wants to celebrate every little piece

1:22:02

of success he has with anything

1:22:04

and he'll blow it out of proportion and say, oh, it's the

1:22:06

greatest thing ever. It was the best thing ever. It was a, you

1:22:08

know, whatever, but it's

1:22:11

just, uh, to me, like that's, that's

1:22:13

also, it's like he's dangerous

1:22:16

to his supporters because I

1:22:18

feel like you don't know where

1:22:20

he stands, like you said, and

1:22:23

it can change. And he's also dangerous

1:22:25

to the elite because in a way

1:22:27

like they can't control him either. Like nobody can control

1:22:29

him. And that's what makes him kind of dangerous to everybody to

1:22:32

some sense, you know, and he

1:22:34

did push back. I remember Del Big Tree, uh, on

1:22:36

a high wire episode, he, uh,

1:22:38

he talked about how, you know,

1:22:41

like a lot because of, and this was soon

1:22:43

after, like he, he was kind of, you know, bragging

1:22:45

about operation warp speed and, and, and

1:22:48

the release of the vaccine and stuff. And

1:22:51

they went back and they, they, they went back

1:22:53

in the archives of like a lot of those press conferences

1:22:55

and a lot of the things that Trump

1:22:57

said about vaccines. And he,

1:23:00

they basically put in perspective why

1:23:03

many people who were anti-vax thought

1:23:05

that Trump was also anti-vax.

1:23:09

And if you go back and you look at

1:23:11

some of the things he said, like you said, there's like hint

1:23:13

here, hint there. He says this, he says

1:23:15

that he said, you know, so there is re it wasn't

1:23:17

like we were completely just

1:23:20

blind to see the fact that he was going to

1:23:23

brag about operation warp speed. Like he did push

1:23:25

back and even in certain press conferences when

1:23:27

everybody was saying, why aren't you masking? Why

1:23:30

aren't you locking down? You know, like he was getting a lot

1:23:32

of shit because he seemed

1:23:34

to not be taking it as seriously as

1:23:37

everybody wanted him to. And

1:23:39

to do it publicly and you know, and I always

1:23:42

think about it too. I'm like, okay, did

1:23:45

the COVID lockdowns last longer and

1:23:47

did everything happen worse than

1:23:50

it probably could have because they hated

1:23:52

Trump so bad that they wanted to just completely

1:23:54

ruin the economy

1:23:56

and just ruin everybody's life and blame

1:23:59

it on him.

1:23:59

Or

1:24:01

if somebody else, you know, another

1:24:03

establishment person who was in power,

1:24:06

they'd be taking big farmers money and things would equally

1:24:08

be as bad. So I mean, maybe there was no

1:24:10

way out of it, you know, we really think about

1:24:12

it. But yeah,

1:24:14

it's interesting because it's, again,

1:24:16

this is one of the reasons why, like

1:24:19

many people, like it's hard to know

1:24:21

where he stands on things. And it's,

1:24:24

you get frustrated because it's like, okay, is he just telling

1:24:26

me what I want to hear? Or what the

1:24:28

hell does he believe? You know, with me,

1:24:30

go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry. I want to answer that,

1:24:32

that I would love for you to be right. And

1:24:35

that there's only, he

1:24:37

could say so much. I just have

1:24:39

come to the, to the stance after

1:24:42

taking a deep dive and reading about Tavistalk,

1:24:45

that these are the Intel script writers and that

1:24:47

both sides are scripted out. And if you see

1:24:49

a beautiful series on HBO

1:24:52

and how intricate and how magnificent

1:24:54

and how detailed it is, well,

1:24:57

it's all scripted. And

1:24:59

that's, that's what I, I ultimately

1:25:03

believe that

1:25:05

in my experience of getting really

1:25:07

close and looking behind the

1:25:10

Wizard of Oz or looking behind the veil,

1:25:12

it's like I was on a Twitter space

1:25:15

with Mario and I started speaking about

1:25:17

Tavistalk and let's mute Miriam.

1:25:20

Oh, you're a great speaker. And people are

1:25:22

like, wow, who is that? And

1:25:24

then it's just, there's a ceiling, there's

1:25:26

a ceiling. And so when I

1:25:29

scanned energetically Trump and I

1:25:31

was like six feet away from him on January

1:25:33

6th, I'm like, okay, he's not like,

1:25:36

he's not a bad guy. Like

1:25:38

he's not an, but he's

1:25:40

a reality actor and he

1:25:42

can play the role

1:25:44

because he's playing himself. And

1:25:46

so are we constantly going to say

1:25:49

he's just surrounded by the swamp and

1:25:51

he, does he not have proper discernment

1:25:54

or is this, I mean, I know celebrities

1:25:57

who've gotten calls if you keep on

1:25:59

talking about that.

1:25:59

the vaccine, I think you have a daughter, right?

1:26:02

Like straight up death threat. So

1:26:04

who knows? That's all I'm saying.

1:26:06

I wish that it didn't have this black pill

1:26:10

perspective. I totally agree with you. I

1:26:13

can't clarify. Mario's

1:26:15

not Luigi's brother, right? Which one? No.

1:26:19

Mario's one of the main Twitter space

1:26:21

guys. It's a big time suck.

1:26:23

I recommend staying away from the Twitter

1:26:26

spaces. As

1:26:28

much as I want to believe in the

1:26:30

system and the rhetoric that they say, you

1:26:33

know, I voted for Tulsi Gabbard

1:26:35

before I

1:26:36

knew about her little connections with the CFR. I

1:26:40

can't help but think that this is all political theater

1:26:42

that is organized at very

1:26:44

high levels and a very

1:26:47

sophisticated style. I don't want

1:26:49

to believe it. I want to believe that it's honest. I want

1:26:51

to believe that it's true, that

1:26:53

JFK really does have our heart and

1:26:56

the best things, but I've

1:26:58

seen... RFK

1:27:01

or JFK? Oh, JFK,

1:27:03

no, sorry. RFK Jr. Who's

1:27:06

right? Well, I would say take a little look at Steve

1:27:08

Kirsch and let's see where he comes from and

1:27:11

what he's funding. Sorry, I'm

1:27:13

super black belt.

1:27:15

I've wondered about him. I started to learn

1:27:17

a little bit about him lately, but I do like his rhetoric. You

1:27:21

know, I've done a lot of history and I've been studying the

1:27:23

New World Order since the 80s, as you could tell, I'm

1:27:26

kind of old. And it's

1:27:28

been theoretical so many years.

1:27:31

I've read books, I've listened to all

1:27:33

of you for many years. I've got so much

1:27:36

information from you and other sources.

1:27:39

And now what I used to think was

1:27:41

theoretical, I'm now seeing it manifest

1:27:44

itself in reality.

1:27:46

And who can you trust in a world

1:27:48

of crooks? Donald Trump

1:27:51

is the con man of con men's.

1:27:53

He might say everything that you want to hear, but

1:27:56

behind the scenes, he ain't

1:27:58

the person that he presents to be. like so many.

1:28:00

I just hope that RFK

1:28:03

Jr. is legitimate because

1:28:05

there's a lot of good things to say and I think that he can at

1:28:08

least open up conversations but there's

1:28:10

still that part of me that says it's all a con

1:28:13

people, it's all a con.

1:28:15

Quick, quick question. Raise

1:28:17

your hand if you have,

1:28:19

or sorry, quick just temperature check, raise your

1:28:21

hand if you have a neighborhood in

1:28:23

the Golan Heights named after

1:28:26

you because how much of a friend

1:28:28

the Israel you were.

1:28:30

You

1:28:33

have two neighborhoods? Ricky's

1:28:35

got two neighborhoods in the Golan Heights.

1:28:40

Wow. Well let's go back to Descent.

1:28:43

Let me interject and I'll just shut up because you

1:28:45

know I like to talk too much. DeSantis.

1:28:48

And I know you all have heard about this new,

1:28:51

I don't know the details about this

1:28:53

new law that it could be a potential felony

1:28:55

if you criticize Israel blah

1:28:57

blah blah blah blah but what really

1:29:00

kicked me in the ass, excuse me for

1:29:02

the vernacular, is the son of

1:29:04

a bitch went to Israel to sign

1:29:07

a bill for Florida. If

1:29:10

that shit doesn't speak droves

1:29:12

about who's really signing his fucking

1:29:15

paycheck, excuse me, sorry, I cussed again.

1:29:17

Who's signing his paycheck and what

1:29:19

team he's really on. I think that's since

1:29:22

droves just like what I was saying, it's all a con,

1:29:24

it's all political theater, it's

1:29:27

just like Jesse Ventura said, just like

1:29:29

WWF, they get out in the public and

1:29:31

they fight and they just tear each other up

1:29:34

and they go backstage and they're the best

1:29:36

of friends and they go to the same little

1:29:38

parties as we've heard of so much. So

1:29:41

with that, I'll just shut my mouth and I'd really

1:29:43

like to hear some input from the panel here.

1:29:47

Yeah, I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer. I would

1:29:49

really, and I

1:29:52

did side with Trump because in the end

1:29:55

he represented the Constitution and we

1:29:57

the people.

1:30:00

yeah i wish i was wrong i just see this

1:30:02

big cognitive dissonance

1:30:05

and i've i've heard a lot

1:30:07

of supporters prominent

1:30:10

influencers in not

1:30:12

mainstream but influencers in the conservative

1:30:15

like oh i'm not going to forgive him

1:30:18

and but yet they're they're

1:30:20

still siding with him and i guess it depends

1:30:22

on how

1:30:23

how passionate you are about

1:30:26

the vaccine and in my opinion

1:30:28

owning any fucking vaccine i have something

1:30:31

called an immune system and i'm never gonna

1:30:33

take one so you

1:30:35

know a set what is a safe and effective i

1:30:38

just i

1:30:38

was telling someone these are gene therapy in

1:30:40

his like gene therapy on like all you didn't get

1:30:43

the memo yet they actually change the definition

1:30:45

of vaccine to reverse engineer

1:30:47

this gene therapy but some people

1:30:49

still don't even know that they got injected

1:30:52

with gene therapy they took them or

1:30:54

a are in a so i mean

1:30:56

i don't know what do you guys think you think there could be a safe

1:30:59

vaccine i'm sure i would have lived

1:31:01

and been even smarter if i didn't take

1:31:03

any vaccines and my life

1:31:04

or i think you made a really good point like

1:31:07

even if there is a save vaccine i

1:31:09

just don't think there's a it's really necessary

1:31:11

like i like you said we should be focus

1:31:14

on increasing to strengthen immune system

1:31:16

eating healthier a lot of you're the thing

1:31:18

about the average person is there are always looking for

1:31:21

you know the path of least resistance it's like

1:31:23

oh how do i lose weight is or of fat

1:31:25

loss pill i can take the hubble you do the

1:31:27

same thing people been doing since the beginning of time and

1:31:29

that's just eating last are eating better

1:31:31

or and moving more like those are things that

1:31:33

work and you know everybody wants

1:31:35

that it easy and quick pill sort same thing with

1:31:37

like a vaccine i almost feel like it's the same type of

1:31:39

psychology words like okay you

1:31:42

know the hobbled you don't get the you you don't

1:31:44

get vaccinated or you don't vaccinate your kids

1:31:46

and you just make sure they eat organic that

1:31:48

eat healthy things they can pick things a killer

1:31:50

thing thing girl you get vitamins

1:31:52

you get him outside make sure they exercise

1:31:55

make sure they get vitamin d from the sun

1:31:57

and are like wait at a lot of war coverage

1:31:59

gimmick vaccinated. You know, it's like, you

1:32:02

know, that's kind of like, you know, the problem. And

1:32:04

but you're right, like, why aren't we asking the question,

1:32:06

like, are they even necessary, you know, and I think

1:32:08

many of us don't think they are. I mean, my kids

1:32:11

are healthy athletes, they do great in

1:32:13

school, they do, you know,

1:32:15

they're constantly playing sports. I mean, nonstop,

1:32:18

my son plays on multiple teams. He

1:32:21

just came from soccer practice. Now, I mean, he's off

1:32:23

the walls, never allergic

1:32:26

to anything, no health issues,

1:32:29

nothing. And it's like, most people think

1:32:31

like, if you don't get your kids vaccinated, they're

1:32:33

immediately in danger, you know, from birth,

1:32:35

you know, and, you know, so people

1:32:38

need to learn the fact that like, yeah, maybe

1:32:40

there are alternative ways and that we've

1:32:42

survived this long without them. And, and

1:32:45

if you look at all the numbers, right, I mean, that's why

1:32:47

the vaccine issue is so important, because it's like, so

1:32:49

many of our health issues, you know, the autoimmune

1:32:52

issues, it's autism, which is

1:32:54

just increasing at like drastic

1:32:57

speed. You know, it's like, I've seen

1:32:59

numbers from like the next 50 years, it

1:33:01

could be one in four kids or one in three

1:33:03

kids or what, you know, just insane numbers.

1:33:06

And yet this could be all vaccine

1:33:08

related, many people think it

1:33:10

is. And when you look at the increase

1:33:13

of vaccines in our vaccine schedule, the COVID

1:33:15

vaccine, which is now recommended in the

1:33:18

children's schedule, and

1:33:20

you see six months, yeah, there

1:33:22

has to be some correlation, there has to be

1:33:24

investigated. So it is

1:33:27

a topic that I'm very passionate

1:33:29

about. You know, that's why, when

1:33:32

you get somebody like Robert Kennedy Jr, who's been

1:33:34

in this battle with us for so long, and

1:33:37

has been, you know, probably one of the most public

1:33:39

figures to be outspoken about it.

1:33:42

You know, I give him a lot of credit, because I

1:33:44

mean, it was like him and Jennifer McCarthy.

1:33:47

And it's like, nobody took her seriously.

1:33:49

And, you know, so I

1:33:52

think that people need to give

1:33:54

him a little bit of credit for that. But

1:33:57

again, it is this faith in

1:33:59

the government.

1:33:59

government system is scary because

1:34:03

we know where that leads and we

1:34:05

know where it could lead. And this

1:34:07

idea of like, you know, environmentally

1:34:10

friendly regulations and all this

1:34:12

stuff that he's a fan of, you

1:34:15

hope that he understands the

1:34:17

power of big pharma and big

1:34:19

chemical, and that will prevent

1:34:21

him from doing anything too crazy or too

1:34:24

drastic that would give them, you know,

1:34:27

just crazy control over the average

1:34:29

person. But yeah, without a doubt,

1:34:32

take your health into your own hands and that's

1:34:34

what people should be thinking about.

1:34:38

Isn't it fundamentally, Ricky,

1:34:40

is it fundamentally two different

1:34:43

schools of thinking in regards to health?

1:34:46

One of them is Rockefeller and

1:34:48

the other one is the true version

1:34:50

of health. So anything within

1:34:52

those parameters, I'm not gonna knock

1:34:55

him, RFK Jr. I've

1:34:57

profiled him, I asked

1:35:00

him, I mean, two years ago, what

1:35:02

happened to the Democratic Party and

1:35:06

if he's going to bring whatever

1:35:08

he's gonna bring to, I

1:35:11

don't know, again, I don't know. I would like

1:35:13

to know what the version of

1:35:15

safe and effective vaccine is when everything

1:35:18

is going mRNA in any

1:35:20

case. I'd like to

1:35:23

see him go the exact opposite direction that

1:35:25

he's going. I'd like for him to come out and say, I'm

1:35:28

anti-vaccine,

1:35:28

period. I think they're dangerous.

1:35:31

And just own it and just be 100% in because

1:35:35

his trying to work with the

1:35:37

left is not, I

1:35:39

don't think it's a winning strategy. I don't think you

1:35:41

can make those people happy. I think you're

1:35:43

always going to be an anti-vaxxer to them. So

1:35:46

just fucking own it.

1:35:47

Just be that and just say I'm critical

1:35:50

of the science.

1:35:51

And he's not gonna be

1:35:54

allowed to win anyway. The

1:35:58

second he says that he's an independent.

1:35:59

I think that that that would be the

1:36:02

moment that he decides to go independent and take

1:36:04

it and be consistent with himself at that point

1:36:07

Um, but he's not gonna say that I think the

1:36:09

fact that he's committed to running within the

1:36:11

democratic structure I think he's not you're

1:36:13

not gonna hear those words, right? Yeah,

1:36:15

he can't now I mean if he's if he's

1:36:18

in that that

1:36:19

I'd love to see it. It'd be

1:36:21

authentic. It'd be it'd be

1:36:23

you'd be like finally at least somebody believes

1:36:26

Something

1:36:27

well, here's what I want to see so bad

1:36:30

is I want to see the I

1:36:32

fucking dare you Party formed

1:36:34

with Trump and RFK jr And

1:36:37

it's totally independent venture and

1:36:40

the whole time This is just walking

1:36:42

out on stage going I fucking dare

1:36:44

you to do it I dare you because we're

1:36:47

gonna talk some shit today. All right, everybody

1:36:49

comfy. We all talk some shit It's

1:36:51

never gonna happen, but that would be absolutely

1:36:54

hysterical and it would be awesome but

1:36:56

I think that that

1:36:57

as far as the as

1:37:01

far as it goes with RFK jr, it

1:37:04

I feel like I he

1:37:07

did a tremendous

1:37:09

amount of good with Later

1:37:16

Tremendous amount of good with children's health defense continues

1:37:18

to do a tremendous amount of good Which children's

1:37:21

health defense is really likely saved

1:37:24

a ton of lives

1:37:25

through the information that's been put out

1:37:27

there and

1:37:28

introduced a

1:37:31

whole giant swath of

1:37:33

people to the criminality

1:37:35

that

1:37:36

That is

1:37:38

the CDC to the the criminal

1:37:41

mob-run organization

1:37:43

that is the the FDA The

1:37:46

people know more about Anthony

1:37:48

Fauci now than they ever wanted

1:37:50

to and The true

1:37:53

stuff that RFK jr Has

1:37:55

written about and made available to people in ways

1:37:57

that they haven't had access to it before necessarily

1:37:59

tremendous work. And

1:38:02

I will give him credit for that all

1:38:04

day long and twice on Sunday. I

1:38:08

don't know how that relates to

1:38:11

a presidential run in the Democratic Party

1:38:13

in an apparatus that has proved

1:38:16

itself time and time and time

1:38:18

and time and time again that it

1:38:20

doesn't respect what people

1:38:22

like RFK Jr. has done, that it has

1:38:25

no respect for me as a private citizen

1:38:27

or what I would want to do with my vote that it

1:38:29

has no respect for the money of the people that

1:38:32

support any individual candidate

1:38:34

gives to the organization. So

1:38:36

I respect his body of

1:38:38

work and the contributions that he's made in those

1:38:41

fields and the information that

1:38:43

he's been able to put out. And again, I'm dead

1:38:45

ass serious about this. I would guarantee

1:38:47

you that that CHD and

1:38:50

through RFK Jr. and his

1:38:52

work have saved lives. I guarantee

1:38:55

you that. I

1:38:57

don't see where the correlation to the

1:39:00

presidential run is. But

1:39:04

do you guys remember if Ron Paul got

1:39:06

the same amount of

1:39:08

like, I feel like Ron Paul ran, everybody

1:39:11

kind of knew like he's not really a Republican,

1:39:13

but he's running as one and everybody

1:39:15

kind of gave him a pass, you know,

1:39:17

even though he was using that label. I

1:39:19

feel like with Robert Kennedy Jr.

1:39:22

like everybody's more upset about

1:39:24

him using that label, then

1:39:27

maybe Ron Paul when he was doing

1:39:29

the basically the exact same thing.

1:39:33

Well, I think if you're gonna get on

1:39:35

a national stage, there's no room for independence.

1:39:38

We're in a

1:39:39

duopoly system, you know, two

1:39:41

wings on the same bird. And the only

1:39:43

ones that are gonna get out on the national stage are the

1:39:45

ones that are selected. So and

1:39:48

Ross Perot was the last time that

1:39:50

there was ever an independent put into

1:39:52

the presidential debates. And he shook

1:39:54

the stuff so much. They took it away from

1:39:56

League of Women Voters, Democrats

1:39:59

and Republicans.

1:39:59

opposing forces created

1:40:02

a nonprofit for what?

1:40:05

The debate from

1:40:06

that time on, the only

1:40:08

time you see, only people you see on the national

1:40:10

stage either have an R and a D behind

1:40:13

their name. One advantage

1:40:15

at least, well I was hoping

1:40:17

but I just heard that the Democratic

1:40:20

Party is not gonna have debates.

1:40:24

They've already popped out. Sleepy

1:40:26

peepy peepy poopy pants Uncle Joe. It's

1:40:29

a fucking clown show.

1:40:30

They're just making it up. They're

1:40:32

just rampant criminals. Well

1:40:36

we'll just change the rule because our guy is brain

1:40:38

dead. And

1:40:38

we'll just throw it in your face. It's like the mafia. What's

1:40:41

it gonna do? What? They're

1:40:43

drat. They officially announced they're not gonna have any

1:40:45

debates? Yes. I mean,

1:40:49

perfect. Great. It's

1:40:51

so fitting. It's just been

1:40:54

years of the last couple years of just massive

1:41:00

incompetence on

1:41:03

every level.

1:41:04

And you just look at it and you go, it

1:41:07

can't be accidental. Like every...

1:41:10

So important, especially for somebody like Robert

1:41:12

Kennedy Jr. that the media is gonna paint whatever

1:41:14

picture they want of him and he can't defend himself.

1:41:17

That's where the debates he could at least say,

1:41:20

hey, you're calling me a this or you're calling me a

1:41:22

that, but this is what I actually stand

1:41:24

for. And when somebody... They did the same

1:41:26

thing with Ron Paul, right? Like, oh, he's

1:41:28

too extreme. And then when you actually hear him talk, you're like, everything

1:41:31

sounds logical. Like it makes sense, you know? But

1:41:33

yet people who didn't know shit about him, because I was

1:41:35

a big Ron Pauls supporter and fan, people

1:41:38

would be like, no, he's too crazy. His views

1:41:40

are too extreme. Like, which ones? And they couldn't pinpoint.

1:41:42

Like they were just regurgitating what the media was saying. So

1:41:45

I wonder if this is a step in the

1:41:47

direction of censoring Robert

1:41:50

Kennedy Jr. Maybe.

1:41:59

platform, we're going to pull our advertising.

1:42:03

And it's over for him. What

1:42:06

side you think he's going to pick on the side of justice?

1:42:09

But 60% of their ad revenue comes from the

1:42:11

pharmaceutical industry, you just get all

1:42:13

the all the vaccine makers together and they say,

1:42:16

if you let Robert Kennedy Jr.

1:42:18

on there, in any serious way,

1:42:21

we're out.

1:42:22

I'm just so skeptical because it's like you know

1:42:24

that he's been censored before he knows

1:42:27

the power of big tech censorship

1:42:29

and how everybody glutes together

1:42:31

and he knows that potentially everybody could collude

1:42:33

against him. So I'm really curious. Like,

1:42:36

what's his backup plan? Like he must have

1:42:38

a plan BCD like if

1:42:40

this hat or is he just gonna say, hey,

1:42:43

I got enough willpower to

1:42:45

debate and put myself out there.

1:42:47

I mean, this past year, he was on

1:42:49

James Corbett. I mean, think about it, a guy who's

1:42:52

running for president. Like

1:42:54

I never thought that day would come where it like it'd be on

1:42:56

James Corbett promoting a book about, you

1:42:59

know, the real Anthony Fauci and the whole

1:43:01

history of that. Like, to me,

1:43:03

it's pretty crazy to think about that.

1:43:05

And but again, like we've been here before

1:43:07

with like, the videos of Trump

1:43:10

questioning 911 and you know, thinking,

1:43:13

you know, all these things were like, oh, we got one of

1:43:15

us or somebody similar to us or as

1:43:17

close to us as possible, you know,

1:43:19

in office, and then they don't do any

1:43:22

of the things that we would do,

1:43:24

you know, so it's, it's

1:43:26

interesting. I, you know, one thing that I

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