0:02

Let's spice things

0:06

up and bring

0:09

up the air.

0:24

Let's

0:27

do an official opening since we sort of did

0:29

a rolling opening because Mike isn't here

0:32

and Sam will hopefully be joining us

0:34

later. But normally Mike plays his

0:37

catchy theme song that he wrote

0:39

and we sort of roll into it. And then he

0:41

says, Ricky, take it away.

0:43

Just like that. And then you could take it away.

0:45

You did a great job, Charlie. Thank you. I've

0:48

heard it enough. And so,

0:50

of course, the Union of the Unwanted. Thanks, everybody, for joining

0:52

us. Another episode.

0:54

And we were today we're going to talk about

0:56

there's no specific topic. We're going to kind of talk

0:58

about current events, whatever's on your mind. Any research

1:01

you guys are specifically been

1:03

diving deep into or anything like that. Be

1:06

more than happy to expand

1:08

on any of those topics. So but

1:10

we typically live stream this weekend because Mike

1:13

is kind of running around. We're not live streaming

1:15

this week, but typically every other Monday, 7

1:18

p.m. Eastern Time on Rockfin.

1:21

Today was a little bit of a curveball. We're going

1:23

to pre-record it. Still

1:26

going to be up and available

1:29

on our Odyssey channel and our Rockfin channel.

1:31

Eventually it's also going to be on all the audio platforms.

1:35

And yeah, I think that's a good topic to

1:37

kind of jump in on. I

1:40

don't know about you guys, but when I

1:42

saw I knew it was coming because

1:44

you could hear the little hints and I heard some

1:47

chatter about Robert Kennedy Jr.

1:49

eventually being on the Rogan podcast. Let

1:52

me just say something from

1:54

my personal experience

1:55

being deep down, you know, being a

2:00

conspiracy theorist, you know, anti-vaxxer

2:03

for much of my life. And I was

2:07

so excited and so

2:10

happy that one, Robert

2:12

Kane Jr. was on, and two,

2:15

the fact that they didn't

2:17

like just

2:18

scratch the surface on the topic and then moved

2:21

on, he literally did the first two hours

2:23

of going down the whole rabbit

2:26

hole, all the science or

2:28

the lack of the history of it, how

2:30

we got here, you know,

2:32

all just everything. And I could not

2:34

be happier because I'm like, how do you listen

2:36

to the first two hours of this and

2:39

then dispute this? Obviously, some people on Twitter

2:41

are still attempting to do so, but, you

2:44

know, the truth is like, how do you listen

2:46

to all the, how do you discredit everything

2:48

he's

2:48

saying? How do you, you know, and

2:51

what, what I think is the most,

2:54

what makes me the most happy is the fact

2:56

that as a long time, I mean, I

2:58

started my show in 2013, Rogan

3:01

was a huge influence of mine. He was, you

3:03

know, he had people like, you know, Dennis McKenna,

3:05

who ended up being on my show and Ben, tons

3:08

of other people who ended up being on my show because he was an inspiration

3:11

to my show. And I always

3:13

looked at him as like a super open-minded

3:15

person who was having controversial people on

3:17

like Graham Hancock and others. But the vaccine

3:20

topic was always the most frustrating because

3:22

it seemed to be like he is, he has

3:25

bought into the mainstream narrative and it's

3:27

like he has blinders on. He doesn't see the

3:29

same issues that we have in, in ancient

3:31

history, the same issues we have in Big

3:34

Pharma in regards to the pill epidemic. Like

3:36

these are the same issues that the vaccine issue

3:38

has. And that's, you know, it's not driven by

3:41

science. It's driven by, you know, quote unquote

3:43

experts who are telling you what to believe, even

3:45

if there's not any reason to believe it. And

3:49

so to see him do a full 360

3:51

and see him through this journey of, of,

3:54

you know, eventually critical thinking and being

3:56

open-minded

3:57

to, to this, I mean, there was

3:59

a.

3:59

a podcast he did with Dr.

4:02

Hotez where he talked about the Lyme

4:05

disease vaccine. I really thought this was

4:07

going to kind of shatter his narrative

4:09

on vaccines, on Rogan's narrative on vaccine,

4:12

because he was asking him about

4:14

the Lyme disease vaccine. Dr.

4:17

Hotez says, yeah, I was taken off the

4:19

market because of conspiracy theorists.

4:21

It didn't, you know, circulated

4:24

some misinformation, and then people lost faith

4:26

in it, and then it got taken off the market. And

4:29

Rogan's like, no, no, that's actually not what happened because I have somebody

4:31

who got Lyme disease from the vaccine.

4:34

And personally, I know somebody who was

4:36

negatively impacted by it. And he's

4:38

like, no, no, that's not the case. And he's like,

4:41

well, there's a lot of people who believe many

4:43

vaccines cause autism.

4:44

Why is that the only

4:47

vaccine that was taken off the market because of these conspiracy

4:49

theories? So you

4:51

could see like, okay, his wheels are turning,

4:54

maybe he's starting to get skeptical. And

4:56

then out

4:56

of nowhere, like it just, you know, nothing

4:59

else came of it. So to see this whole 360,

5:03

like I could not be more excited.

5:05

I could not be more happy that

5:07

I could say like, listen to this podcast

5:10

and let me know, like, how

5:13

can you still believe that vaccines

5:15

are safe and effective? But

5:18

enough of me getting really excited because

5:21

as you could tell, I've had many personal debates and

5:23

arguments with friends and loved ones throughout the years

5:25

on this specific topic exactly.

5:28

So I'm really excited that it's becoming

5:30

a little bit more mainstream. And I do think it's

5:32

planting the seed in many people. And

5:34

I think that

5:35

if one good thing that came out of COVID, like we

5:38

keep saying on the show is the fact that

5:40

a lot of people are becoming much more open-minded

5:43

to the idea that maybe just like the COVID

5:46

vaccine, they've been lying to us about all vaccines. But

5:48

anybody want to take it away? And this has got

5:51

to go first. I can see he's just, he's just

5:53

ready to explode over there. He's

5:55

ready to blast off. He's so angry.

5:58

First of all,

5:59

is obviously a hack and it was long

6:02

overdue to give somebody like Kennedy that platform.

6:05

I am very happy that Rogan himself

6:08

called Hotez out on Twitter

6:11

after he had been smeared by Hotez

6:13

and even showed one of his deleted tweets

6:17

about Rogan and this group that were

6:19

extremely dangerous now. And the Musker

6:22

Nuts is in that group and you know how I feel about Elon.

6:25

Quite frankly, give me a break. But

6:27

Rogan challenges him then he puts up a hundred grand.

6:30

I think the ticker at this point with people

6:32

who are ready to

6:33

pop more money in and by the way, Jeff, I think you're muted

6:36

because I saw you try to talk early. Okay. All

6:38

right. Because I want to get everybody in.

6:41

I think that it's over a million dollars

6:44

now. I think it's like 1.1 million dollars.

6:46

And the new thing is

6:48

to censor and not engage and

6:50

just act like you're the authoritative source

6:53

because you are the authoritative source

6:55

when all the major social media platforms don't

6:57

give a venue. And I think also the problem

7:00

is that Twitter is that one venue that they're trying

7:02

to now paint as like hate speech. Well,

7:04

when the bar is so low that like freedom

7:06

of speech not reach, okay,

7:09

is the bar, we've

7:11

really reached a bad place. I don't

7:14

expect Hotez to accept this

7:16

if it gets to 10 million dollars, right? I was actually talking

7:18

about this on my making sense

7:20

of the madness show. And that's because the new

7:23

thing is they literally just like Marion

7:25

talked about in the opening, tell you not to do your research.

7:27

I had a personal experience

7:30

where I pay for everything

7:32

cash. I don't have health

7:34

insurance. Okay. I'm pretty much straight

7:36

up. I have enough money if something goes wrong. I

7:38

could probably take care of it unless it's super major, you

7:41

know, and I don't want to buy into the system because

7:43

the system essentially wants me to pay into this system

7:46

where they're going to decide what I get anyway.

7:48

But I ended up having vertigo a little

7:50

over a year and a half ago. And if anybody's had vertigo,

7:53

it's completely crippling. I've never felt less

7:55

of a human being and more in danger in my

7:57

adult life. So. I

8:00

mean, I would lay down and I would just put my head in

8:02

it. It came out of nowhere. My eyes started getting blurry

8:05

maybe two, three weeks

8:07

before this happens to me.

8:09

And for the first time I lay down and I turned

8:11

my head and the whole world starts spinning. And I've never

8:13

had this feeling in my life. And I don't

8:15

know where I am. I don't know what's happening. And

8:17

then eventually my eyes set. Now,

8:20

immediately I start looking online

8:22

like what could this be? Immediately. Because

8:25

what else are you going to do, right? Aren't you supposed to believe

8:27

your own skills and instincts? I mean, I guess

8:29

not anymore.

8:30

So this

8:33

continues for like a day and I'm looking

8:35

it up. And the first thing that I

8:37

find is a thing called BPPV,

8:40

where basically a crystal gets knocked loose

8:42

in your ear. You have these crystals

8:45

and through some infection or something

8:47

going on in your head.

8:49

And it gives you vertical. And if you

8:52

are literally moved the right way through a chiropractor

8:55

or a physical therapist, that can

8:57

end it. All right. So

8:59

I go into a clinic. I

9:03

tell them exactly the same thing I just told you guys.

9:06

Okay, okay, okay. We

9:09

need to get you to an eye doctor. We're

9:11

going to do that first. And we're

9:13

going to go see the eye doctor. So I explain it to the eye

9:15

doctor and my eye is blurry. I

9:18

had 20-20 vision. This one's not

9:20

20-20 anymore. And

9:22

the first and my eye is also swollen.

9:25

Okay. The first thing they

9:27

tell me is do not look this up

9:29

yourself. I

9:32

cannot make that up.

9:33

So I go, I already, I stopped them. I go,

9:36

I already think I have BPPV. Can

9:38

I talk to somebody who's

9:40

going to maybe take that seriously?

9:43

Well,

9:44

we can't get you into Genesis because

9:46

you don't have insurance and you don't have a primary.

9:48

Okay. So then I have to go to a primary.

9:51

And I find this place

9:54

where I basically pay like $1,200 for the year and

9:57

I can get lab work and all this other stuff done. And

9:59

I have a doctor.

9:59

and Genesis will take me. This

10:02

woman answers the door, even in Iowa with a mask.

10:05

I'm already not feeling great about

10:07

the whole situation. All right.

10:09

Now in between this visit, because

10:11

I got the primary, Genesis

10:13

would see me, but they wanted me to take an MRI

10:16

right away.

10:17

And the MRI finds

10:19

something behind my eye that they're not

10:21

sure whether it's a tumor or

10:24

they tell me it could be a granuloma.

10:26

And all of which is like brain

10:28

surgery or death, by the

10:31

way, just to let everybody know. So

10:34

that's the MRI. So I'd go to see the results

10:36

of the MRI with this woman who's already wearing

10:38

a mask. They're already telling me, again, I've

10:41

told every, I'm on the fourth doctor.

10:43

I've told every single one of them. And I think I have

10:45

BPPB.

10:46

All right. I

10:50

talked to this woman.

10:51

She's like, first thing she does say, I'll

10:53

give her this, it's not cancer. Hallelujah,

10:57

baby, right? Not cancer. We're only

10:59

about three grand deep right now. No

11:02

big deal, not cancer. Okay.

11:04

We need you. I

11:06

had to go get another like ridiculous

11:08

test. Actually the MRI was second.

11:11

What's the other one they do with the beat box? It sounds

11:13

like you're at a nine inch nails contest. No, MRI.

11:15

And then what's the, with the next one?

11:17

Because I did two big ones. The second one

11:19

we'll get to in a minute. But before

11:22

I did any of this, I

11:24

got to the Genesis doctor after this, the fifth doctor

11:26

I talked to. I was totally coherent.

11:29

I go, listen, I think I have BPP.

11:32

I think I have a knock loose crystal. Can somebody get

11:34

me to, you know, and she goes, you

11:36

know, why not? We're

11:40

on like guys week three and a half of

11:43

I can't go to bed at night and turn my head

11:45

or I can't reach down to tie my shoelaces without

11:48

maybe falling over and cracking my skull. Cause I can't

11:50

stand up straight. That's how scary this is.

11:53

I go to Genesis. I

11:55

go to the lady. I tell her what I think's going on. I

11:58

say that I've actually watched my. I walked out,

12:00

she's like, well, you know, it sounds like you

12:02

do have that and you'll be lucky if you do,

12:04

because a lot of these people aren't walking out of here with

12:07

any kind of real thing. 20

12:09

minutes guys, I worked with

12:11

her for 20 minutes. She moved my head for 20 minutes. I got

12:13

in a car, I drove to Oklahoma to meet

12:15

Clay Clark for the first time. And, uh,

12:17

I think I met you there Courtney as well. That was that

12:19

first time in April, gone.

12:21

I haven't heard ago since that, since

12:24

the day I met you. Okay.

12:26

And then I went back again for the

12:28

second test. And when they saw it

12:30

was in there after waiting like five

12:32

hours, they told me it was just some liquid

12:35

from an effect. And I had said, look, I got bad teeth. It

12:37

could be an infection in my head that knocked

12:39

this loose. I've got, I've

12:41

done like $15,000 in dental work since then. I'm

12:45

pretty wrapped up. Maybe there's going to be an implant or two.

12:47

Uh, but my eye is

12:49

better. I don't have vertigo. It was

12:51

exactly what I thought it was. And I had to

12:53

spend five extra thousand

12:56

dollars because they told me not to do my research.

12:58

And I'm a fucking idiot.

13:00

Like, imagine

13:03

if you didn't trust yourself and the

13:05

average person who goes in and next thing

13:07

you know, I'm under and I'm having brain

13:10

surgery.

13:11

The thing was that I

13:14

did have a history in my family

13:16

of two people. My mother, one of them had a granuloma

13:19

that didn't have to be worked on. It was much

13:21

smaller than what they saw in my head. And then

13:23

a cousin of mine actually got the brain

13:25

surgery for a granuloma in

13:27

her early twenties. So that's what

13:30

they were leaning towards in the beginning. Brain

13:32

surgery, everybody. It's

13:34

so wild to me because this is one

13:36

of the few industries, it's like going to a mechanic

13:39

too, where

13:41

the prices they give you the price after

13:43

the procedure has been done, you know, the healthcare industry,

13:46

it's like, Oh, well, here's the bill. What's this? And it's like,

13:48

well, I wouldn't have signed up for the $80 aspirin

13:51

or whatever. I wouldn't have been interested in all this

13:53

when you get the itemized bill later.

13:56

I'm wondering from a business

13:58

standpoint, Clint, you're, somebody

14:00

that examines

14:03

the way businesses run, could you run

14:06

any other industry the way the healthcare

14:08

industry is run? It seems like it is run backwards

14:11

and inside out. None of the normal

14:15

business

14:16

incentive structures are there. Everything

14:20

in government subsidies come in,

14:22

they inflate the prices and then

14:24

plan on negotiating it down. If you

14:26

ran your mortgage

14:28

company like this, how fast

14:30

would you be out of business? How fast would

14:32

you infuriate your customers or the title

14:35

companies to the point where they just go, we can't work

14:38

with this system anymore? Well,

14:39

it all depends on whether

14:41

or not I'm a Federal

14:44

Reserve Bank mortgage broker, in

14:46

which case I could probably get away with it for a long

14:48

time. But seeing as I was private money, I'd

14:51

be out of business in about 30 days. That's the

14:54

nature of any government supported

14:57

industry. And this is why it drives me crazy when I hear

14:59

the left talk about nationalizing healthcare.

15:01

It's like we have this hybrid

15:03

version that's the worst of both worlds.

15:05

You do have the greed that exists within the

15:08

insurance agencies and the

15:09

greed that exists within the hospitals, but you also

15:12

have this overarching

15:16

just bureaucracy of death from

15:19

the government that's involved too. Because

15:22

I moved to Florida, I went about six

15:24

months without insurance, just because I didn't want

15:26

to pay out the nose. And

15:30

I did have to go to the hospital one time. And because

15:32

I didn't know if I was having a heart attack

15:34

or if I was having a panic attack, it was panic as usual.

15:38

And I asked them beforehand, because I'm sitting in the lobby

15:40

and I'm like, hey, can I get a quote? Like

15:43

I know the tests that I want to have run to make sure that

15:45

my heart's fine. I just want to know

15:47

what the price is beforehand. And they said, we

15:49

can't give you that.

15:50

They can't do it. I mean, there

15:53

is just no business on earth. Or you just

15:55

like it. You just sign a blank check when you

15:57

walk in the door. And then when you leave.

16:00

you're forced to pay it or

16:03

you're sent to debt collection for the rest of your life. But

16:06

this is the nature of

16:08

basically a fascistic business model.

16:12

I

16:14

know doctors' offices that by standard

16:17

operating business procedure immediately

16:20

send them to collections.

16:24

As soon as they send them an invoice, there are people that

16:26

were going, I don't even have time

16:29

to send you the check myself. You've already

16:31

put me in collections. How could you do that so quickly? And

16:33

they're like, well, we just do that with everybody.

16:35

Yeah, exactly. They

16:37

treat their customers like shit and then they wonder why. I

16:40

mean, but this is why so many people are

16:42

convinced that it needs to be nationalized because

16:44

they think that this is the private market. It

16:46

just couldn't be further from the truth. So much of the revenue

16:49

comes from the government, from Medicare and Medicaid

16:51

and all these other programs. And then

16:53

you also, no one pays actually

16:55

for the service because if

16:57

you don't have a government insurance

17:00

program, then you're paying an insurance company.

17:02

And the insurance company is always the payer

17:04

of whatever

17:05

service that you need. So you never ask

17:07

for the price. The only people that ask

17:09

for the price are those that are totally uninsured

17:12

in all possible ways. So

17:14

they don't even cater to those people whatsoever.

17:17

But if you actually go in there and you say,

17:19

hey, I don't have insurance. I'm like,

17:22

this is not an emergency. I just want to quote.

17:24

I'm only going to come to you if you actually

17:27

are the best price that I can find.

17:29

They will ultimately give you a quote. And the quote is

17:31

usually about a quarter of what it would

17:34

be if you had insurance. I mean, the

17:36

whole thing's a scam. That's spot on. I

17:38

mean, I got to agree with that's the whole thing. Like

17:40

people don't realize that when you go in there, look,

17:43

they send you through everything anyway. And then if they have

17:45

insurance, they milk you with. So

17:47

I remember it was a CAT scan was the second one.

17:50

OK. And before the CAT scan,

17:52

I was having issues with

17:55

the eye and I had gotten rid of the

17:57

vertical by that. Right.

17:59

But.

18:01

No one had updated them. They tried to put

18:03

me through all these auditory tests first.

18:05

They put me in a room and this lady is about to start these tests.

18:07

I go, let's stop right now. I

18:09

go, first of all, is it Mark there? My vertigo

18:11

is gone. She goes, no, I'll go. Okay.

18:14

Let's start there. I'm okay. Now I

18:16

had what I thought I had. She's like, Oh,

18:18

and I'm like, Mike, am I hearing is great.

18:21

My eye is still a little bit blurry.

18:23

Um, again, they found this thing. They said it was a granuloma

18:25

at first. I, you know, I, I want to just go get the

18:27

CAT scan. And

18:28

she's like, Oh, well, Oh, okay.

18:31

That makes sense. And then I was going to pay it cash

18:33

right there. And they didn't, again, they didn't

18:35

even have the invoice after I did the procedure.

18:39

You know, I, I have waited over, I actually

18:41

think I had to come back a second day because the first day got

18:43

canceled. It's like an hour away from me. And

18:45

then they literally walked in with masks. Again,

18:48

very confident. They had

18:50

my MRI and they now had

18:52

my CAT scan and the guy

18:54

looks at me in the eye after I've gone through all this

18:56

and he goes, yeah, it looks like it's just, you

18:59

know, some liquid or whatever, maybe some

19:01

kind of an infection. We're not sure. Probably going to clear

19:03

up. You're going to be fine. And

19:05

I'm like, so that's the ultimate thing. And like

19:07

my vertigo's gone. I told him the whole

19:09

story. He's like, yeah, you're okay. If something

19:11

else happens, I mean, call us. But

19:13

think, think about that. That that goes

19:15

to show the subjective nature

19:19

of the medical industry. There's

19:22

a lot of gray area there and there, there's a

19:24

lot of room for debate, but that's not

19:26

what I hear is allowed anymore. I

19:28

hear the science is subtle. I hear

19:31

people say that, you know, bloodletting

19:34

and head shrinking is all, all

19:36

behind us. That's ancient practice. No, no, no. We

19:38

still practice it largely. And most of it's mandated

19:41

now really fucking awesome.

19:43

So this is my problem I have with healthcare

19:45

in general is that we keep talking

19:48

about like, oh, how do we make

19:50

it cheaper?

19:51

To me, it's like, how about we just

19:53

talk about how, how do we make it

19:56

not relevant?

19:57

Because the truth is like,

19:59

it's not how do we get the these pharmaceutical drugs and

20:01

these procedures at a cheaper

20:03

cost, it's more about like,

20:05

hey, how about we take our health into

20:08

our own hands? How about we eat better? How about

20:10

we exercise more? How about those

20:13

are the things we should be discussing? Because the

20:15

truth is like, it's a for-profit,

20:18

you know, industry, just like all industries.

20:21

So they don't care about your health. They

20:23

don't care about, you know, there's people with

20:25

suits and ties and looking at graphs

20:27

who are looking at, okay, how do we market this different?

20:30

How do we find off-label use forward?

20:32

How do we, you know, how do we justify

20:34

or the science, you know,

20:36

or the lack of, or how do we

20:38

get some studies that show our

20:41

product in a positive light? I mean,

20:43

that's not where health is. I mean, what we should

20:46

be asking is like, why are there

20:48

so many people going to their doctors so often?

20:51

I haven't seen my doctor since high school.

20:53

I'm completely honest. I'm like,

20:56

I'm 38 years old. I've not been to a doctor since

20:58

high school. I, you know, I play

21:00

sports multiple times a week. I go to the gym, you

21:02

know, four or five times a week. I have injuries.

21:05

Yeah, I've fractured. I have hairline

21:07

fractures. I've had it. You know, if I need to get

21:09

an X-ray because of injury, it's like, okay, I

21:11

broke something or I have a fracture. Let

21:14

me just up my calcium, my vitamin

21:16

D, my whatever I need to kind of help

21:18

the process a little bit. And let me

21:21

just, you know, rest it and, and,

21:23

and, and, well, I usually don't rest it too

21:26

much because I still continue going to the gym or whatever,

21:28

but I'll find a way to exercise around

21:30

it. And, and that's it. Like, I

21:32

mean, I, to me, it's like, why do people

21:35

go into the doctors and get in looked at, you

21:38

know, all the time? Why are they having all these health issues? It's because

21:40

the doctor is not going to help you get healthy. Like

21:43

the

21:43

food is shit. The food is

21:45

shit. It's poison. The hospitals are killing

21:48

feels like I, when I moved to Florida and

21:50

I wanted to resume medication

21:53

and went to one doctor cause he was Egyptian

21:56

and the nurse is like, there's a Coca-Cola

21:58

and a bag of chips.

21:59

I'm like, and a mask. She was

22:02

wearing a mask on top of that too. It's like,

22:04

no, it's health, H-E-L-L-T-H.

22:07

It has nothing to do with

22:09

prevention. Its education is lacking.

22:15

Well, keep in mind too, that it was, this

22:17

is what really put Dr. Peter Hotez on the

22:19

war path. In my opinion, is that

22:21

the last time he was on with Rogan, Rogan

22:24

said, dude,

22:25

do you work out? Do you take vitamin

22:27

D supplementation? Are you doing anything

22:30

proactively to look after your health, or

22:32

do you just inject every solution

22:35

to every health ailment? And the answer

22:37

was, you're a fat loaf and you

22:39

don't do anything for yourself. And yet you

22:41

want to mandate that your products be

22:44

forcibly put into every human being

22:46

on the face of the earth. And

22:48

his daughter is arguably has

22:50

autism because of a vaccine. And

22:53

it's possible. No, but he wrote a book that

22:55

said vaccines didn't cause Rachel's autism. So,

22:58

you know, science has settled that. Case closed. Case

23:00

closed. No, but it really is about this

23:02

foundational health stuff. I mean, I'm a

23:05

health coach. I work with people all

23:07

over the world, but specifically with people that

23:09

are vaccine injured. And it's like literally the

23:11

foundations of health, clean food, clean water, clean

23:13

air, get outside, exercise, ground, meditate,

23:16

pray, have community, like it's

23:18

so, so simple. And that's why

23:20

they say, don't do your own research.

23:23

Cause you can go do that. And it's like these super

23:25

easy foundations that cost zero

23:27

money. Well, organic food, and

23:30

definitely it's a little more expensive, but relatively

23:33

compared to like going and getting surgery and

23:35

being on 40 drugs with 80 side effects,

23:38

you know, it's a cheap alternative. So

23:40

I think that that's one thing that I love about union

23:43

and what everyone shares here. Like we were talking about inflammation

23:45

earlier, going to the doctor, all this stuff, is

23:47

that you don't find this information out,

23:50

like out in the general realm, you are more

23:53

so now than we were previously, but

23:55

this show and all of you guys and your individual

23:57

podcasts, like are continually just sharing

23:59

this too. empower people versus what

24:01

the powers that be, the WEF is doing, the World

24:04

Health Organization, the CDC, FDA, NIH,

24:06

they're all trying to get you fearful and

24:09

just, you know, stay home, stay safe,

24:11

take the drugs, don't do your own research,

24:13

don't worry about having community isolate, you

24:15

know, do everything you can basically to tank your immune

24:18

system and get you to live in a fear state where you're just

24:20

comply. And we're like, no, you

24:23

have an immune system, you have the ability

24:25

to heal yourself, you have vitality. So

24:28

I love, I love the hope

24:29

that all of you guys give in that way to

24:32

everybody out there. I want to

24:34

add that when they have the Twitter

24:36

spaces, I've been listening to a lot of partaking

24:39

in a lot of spaces with vaccine

24:41

injured people. And yesterday, Mario had

24:43

a huge space. And it's like,

24:45

why are you guys even discussing like, all

24:48

the vaccines, you have something called an immune

24:50

system? Why can't we just bust beyond

24:53

that? And just, it's, it's, it's

24:56

crazy to me to be even speaking

24:58

about a vaccine, in my opinion, sure,

25:00

if the person wants to inject themselves,

25:03

but I believe in an immune system.

25:06

And just to your point, Susie, about

25:08

the organic food, I think I

25:10

recently did a story on appeal,

25:12

and took a little dive to the

25:15

Bill Gates funded appeal

25:17

sciences. And that's going to

25:19

even be on organic.

25:22

Yeah. Yeah, it's so

25:25

scary. Yeah, it's so

25:27

scary. Yeah, you

25:29

can't even wash it off. I mean, I'm sure

25:31

you know, because you did the whole research on it. But I

25:34

mean, for people who think like they peel off the sticker,

25:36

they wash it like they would typical fruits and

25:38

vegetables, you can't wash it off. It goes all

25:41

the way through. I mean, it's

25:43

literally the whole purpose is to

25:45

delude you into thinking that your, your

25:48

produce is still fresh, when it's, you

25:51

know, gone bad. And they, you know, they started this

25:53

a long time ago, with the

25:54

potatoes. And that book

25:57

is like, you can't find it anywhere. But I and

25:59

I'm, I'm lanking on the guy's name who wrote

26:01

it. But he had a whole chapter about how

26:04

they now almost all

26:06

potatoes are GMO. And

26:08

the way that you can tell is when you cut into

26:10

them, they don't turn brown like a white

26:12

baked potato. It doesn't turn brown

26:15

anymore. So this this has been going on for a long

26:17

time. But I guess it's like anything they beta test

26:19

on something and then they roll it out from there.

26:22

So now we're just seeing the mass roll

26:24

out of this. But it's so scary, because I feel like

26:26

they just they they attack, they attack

26:28

from every angle

26:29

possible. And I've been talking about

26:32

this with the seed oils, because I, I

26:35

actually have like, this physiological

26:38

reactions to them. So

26:40

I think they're really toxic for everyone. And I don't

26:42

know that it's actually like an allergy. I think

26:44

for me personally, it's just like, we all

26:47

have a toxic threshold, we have

26:49

like, you know, an amount of burden

26:51

that we can chemical body. What? Chemical

26:55

body burden is what Yeah, exactly. So I think

26:57

we just, you know, we have different levels at different

26:59

points in time. And for me,

27:02

though, I start breaking out high, my stomach

27:04

does weird knots, like I actually can,

27:06

I always know when they put when they do

27:09

seed oil. So I'm very conscious of it

27:11

when I go to the supermarket. And when

27:13

you look at it's like all the organic stuff.

27:16

And now, to be fair, I think they've done it to

27:18

close the profit margins, or

27:21

to expand the profit margin, because I think organic produce

27:24

is so much more

27:24

expensive. So the way that they can

27:26

make it a little bit cheaper, they put seed

27:29

oils into the organic foods,

27:31

but the inorganic foods don't typically

27:33

have

27:34

a lot of them don't have it. So, but

27:36

to from, you know, from my

27:38

perspective, just looking at all that it looks like they're

27:41

just trying to attack you from all angles.

27:43

Yeah. And let's why are they

27:45

putting these trans fats and heavy

27:48

metal residuals this again

27:50

this this obsession with

27:52

this parasite nano heavy

27:55

metal trifecta and

27:57

it's just about this is it really about the slow

27:59

kill.

27:59

I mean, I joked on Twitter,

28:02

it's like, are we, them

28:04

rolling out the alien narrative

28:07

is that they can finally just

28:09

come out in the open that we're being

28:11

harvested. I mean, that's where I'm at

28:13

now. Unfortunately, I admit

28:16

it that I believe that we've been overtaken

28:18

in a more obvious way

28:21

or the sim has gone cuckoo.

28:23

Yeah, Mariam, if I can jump in, I don't

28:25

know if it's a slow kill thing or

28:27

if it's just total lethargy at

28:29

this point, but I

28:32

watched someone close to me in a

28:34

matter of weeks turn their life around just by

28:36

cutting out all this gross food that

28:38

they were consuming and all that. And

28:41

they were just tired of me making fun of them nonstop.

28:44

Like when you're putting in your body, that's horrible. And

28:46

all of a sudden they're applying a new job and exercising

28:49

and the mood shift. It

28:51

was wild to watch it happen

28:54

in such a short amount of time. I

28:57

couldn't believe it. And

29:00

in my life, I'm lucky that I have

29:02

people around me who are informed

29:04

and like-minded, but I've kind

29:06

of given up with most people who aren't

29:09

and they seem to think

29:11

like we're misinformed. It's like, no, we

29:13

were on your side. We were presented with different

29:16

information. We changed our opinion because

29:18

it was compelling enough. Can I share it with you? No?

29:22

All righty then. Well, then I guess the conversation's

29:24

over.

29:26

You would hope that you could lead by example

29:28

too. You could be like, I'm

29:30

never sick. I'm

29:32

in good shape. I'm not a hundred pounds

29:34

overweight, man. Maybe I'm doing

29:37

something, maybe we're doing it the right

29:39

way. It's

29:41

like third time you've got COVID, that's weird.

29:44

Don't you figure out that

29:47

I didn't take the shot. I haven't gotten it at all. Everyone's,

29:50

I've been fine. You keep taking the shots.

29:52

You don't feel as well. If

29:54

you can only maybe make that connection, because

29:57

you're right, Jeff, like you can't. there's

30:00

only so much you can do. You could just say, hey,

30:02

look, would you like for me to tell

30:05

you what I know about this? No? Okay, cool.

30:07

I know people don't want to be lectured, but if you can

30:09

maybe make it a dialogue instead

30:12

of a monologue and say, hey, man, what are you

30:15

what are you doing? What do you

30:17

think you're doing? You're injecting

30:19

yourself with an experiment for

30:22

something with a survivability rate of 99.98%

30:24

and a median death age of 80. Like

30:28

I get it that you're scared, but are you also bad

30:31

at statistical analysis? Like are you bad

30:33

at the math on this because it's pretty

30:36

easy. It's not 50-50. It's like 99.98%.

30:38

And yet you're

30:44

willing to take on this unrealistic

30:47

burden and a huge gamble.

30:49

And it's like, it's very, it's

30:51

been a wild thing to watch over the last

30:54

three years to watch the media do this

30:56

to people, to get them so scared

30:58

that they're willing to just

31:01

not research. Then you get the media

31:03

telling them, don't research,

31:06

whatever you do, don't research. And then

31:08

you get the lady that's in that press conference saying,

31:10

I don't care what's in it. I don't want

31:12

to know what's in it. Just put it in me and

31:15

everyone's clapping and you're like, what the fuck is

31:17

going on? This is insanity.

31:20

And then for pointing it out, this

31:22

all looks crazy to me. You get

31:26

called crazy

31:27

for not going to lie. I mean, it is really frustrating.

31:30

And I'll tell you, Jeff, you and I,

31:32

we've had these conversations, but

31:35

like there's only

31:37

so much you can do. At some point you have to

31:39

just kind of prioritize your energy, your

31:42

mental energy and your focus

31:44

and just say, look,

31:45

I put the information out there through

31:47

podcasts or your books or through your health,

31:50

practitioner services, whatever you do. I

31:53

put the information, it's out there. If you want it, go

31:55

get it. If not,

31:57

you do you, man. I am not going

31:59

to chase. people down and lecture

32:01

them and try and explain this because it's

32:05

just at this point, like if

32:07

you can't, if you're not asking questions,

32:09

like, I don't know what to tell you.

32:11

But it's kind of like my kids when we first

32:13

went, when my kids first were going to school.

32:15

And my wife's like, Oh, we're going to be the anti-vax

32:18

parents. Because it's like we use the religious exemption

32:20

form. She's like, all the parents are,

32:22

the other parents are going to find out, teachers are

32:25

going to talk about our kids. Like we're

32:27

going to be the anti-vax family. I'm like, and

32:29

I remember telling my wife, I'm like, listen,

32:31

I'm like, you know what's going to happen?

32:33

Our kids are going to be the only ones that don't have to

32:35

worry about allergies. They're going to be the only

32:37

ones who are never out of school because

32:39

they're sick. I'm like, and then we're

32:41

going to make that teacher rethink their

32:43

whole stance on vaccines because the two healthiest

32:46

kids in the school are

32:48

un-vax, you know, kids

32:51

who are always eating right.

32:54

They have healthy snacks. They

32:56

take their vitamins. They're cognitively

32:58

and physically, you know, at least average.

33:01

Of course, I'm going to say above average because they're

33:03

my kids, but at least average, if

33:05

I'm going to try to be right

33:07

down the middle. So like to me, like, you

33:09

know, you should be outspoken and you are, you do end

33:11

up being a example for what

33:13

you're preaching, you know? And I think that's important

33:16

that that you do like, don't be afraid

33:18

to be outspoken about these issues and then

33:20

let your,

33:21

you know, your body or yourself

33:24

be your business card for your philosophy.

33:26

But have you been on Twitter in the last

33:28

two days? Have you seen the NPCs

33:31

have all been activated? Yeah,

33:33

but you know, it's more and more impressive

33:35

that Joe Rogan's been on Twitter. He

33:37

never goes on Twitter that he is

33:39

like he is usually and he says

33:42

on his own show, he never goes on Twitter like he

33:44

just feels like it's a waste of time. It's the

33:46

fact that he's as passionate about

33:48

this specific podcast with Robert

33:50

Kennedy Jr. and this issue that now he's

33:53

on Twitter debating people like to me, it's

33:55

like, holy shit, we didn't just get him on our

33:57

side like he's he's a believer.

34:00

Like he is, you know, not

34:02

just a believer, he is upset that

34:04

he's been tricked and fooled

34:07

for so long that now

34:09

he's not just, you know, having somebody

34:11

on our side on his podcast,

34:14

but now he is defending them and

34:16

openly, you know, willing to put up money

34:18

to, you know, to basically

34:21

just dissolve this whole illusion that

34:24

vaccines is the one pharmaceutical product

34:26

that they don't lie about.

34:29

I think one of the things about the past

34:31

three years that's been really

34:33

devastating is that on the one

34:36

hand is a great silver lining that people are

34:38

asking questions, so many people are waking up.

34:41

But, you know, I'm a believer that there

34:43

are times where at least, you know,

34:45

in the past, I mean, I certainly have

34:48

had experiences where I, you know, I

34:50

have a very extensive medical history and I've needed

34:53

doctors and they have helped me.

34:55

And I think that what's really tragic

34:57

is because that relationship

35:00

has been so severed, it's really

35:02

neither side is like the one

35:04

side that blindly is trusting them

35:06

and they're being hurt, you know,

35:08

really like in some cases, their

35:10

lives are lost, you know, if not

35:13

forever impaired by the doctors. But then

35:15

on the other side, there's no trust.

35:18

And it's like even for a cute

35:20

thing, there are times like Miriam, you hurt your knee,

35:23

you know, you want to get, you know, Jason with your eye,

35:25

you want to go see a doctor. And he's like

35:27

there

35:27

now there's so

35:30

few that I feel like can be trusted.

35:32

And I think that that's just

35:34

it's

35:35

really devastating. I think it's really tragic. I

35:37

know I'm dealing with that. The other thing

35:39

is we're so much more aware of how, you know,

35:42

it's like the saying, if you have

35:45

a hammer, everything's a nail. And they're

35:47

kind of that's, and this I

35:49

don't even fault them for. It's like they're just

35:52

myopically seeped. They've been so indoctrinated.

35:54

And they've got their little very

35:57

limited toolkit. You know,

35:59

I recently, I think most of you know, I had this

36:01

thing with my eye, I had a chalazion, they

36:04

did cut it out. But

36:06

since then, it was, I mean, essentially, that

36:08

was surgery, I was awake for it. It was pretty

36:10

traumatic. I'm watching them,

36:12

I don't want to gross people out, but I could see her doing

36:15

the whole procedure. And I kind

36:17

of wish it had been filmed, I would have liked

36:19

to actually see it from the outside in. But um,

36:21

but you know, I could see the stuff coming out. And all

36:24

this to see though, when I've gone back for the follow up,

36:26

she keeps wanting to squeeze whatever she thinks is

36:29

still in there. And I'm

36:29

like,

36:30

okay, now I think it's healing, like, and

36:32

she's aggravated it so much. But then

36:35

I think about it, she's a surgeon. That's

36:37

her solution to things. And I don't think she's

36:40

trying to hurt me. I don't think, you know, of course, I,

36:42

this is my one eye. So of course, I was

36:44

very scared. I was a little bit angry at first,

36:46

because like, okay, it was it was healing.

36:48

And now it's aggravated again. But then

36:51

I think about it. Well, they're trained to do a

36:53

specific thing. All this just

36:55

to say, I think now, you know, we're,

36:58

it's like that. There's so little trust

37:00

on both sides. And, you know, there's

37:02

still, I still think there's a time and a place

37:05

where it would be great if you could see a doctor

37:07

when you don't have all the tools

37:09

to heal yourself. But there are times I think for

37:11

acute things where doctors should be

37:14

able to help you. And now that's

37:16

just not,

37:18

it's not where, you know,

37:20

it once was so. And that's why

37:22

functional medicine is the is in

37:24

my opinion, the future, especially if you

37:26

find a functional medicine

37:28

doctor that was an MD,

37:31

let's say like Cola, that

37:33

can,

37:35

can use both best

37:37

of the both worlds. But like to your point,

37:40

lawyers want a lawyer, hairdressers want

37:42

to cut hair, surgeons want to cut. So

37:45

they're doing, they're

37:46

within their sandbox. And

37:48

if they're humble enough, they can look beyond

37:51

that. But unfortunately, that

37:53

that's not the case. I wanted

37:55

to add, like if,

37:57

look at what the world went through

37:59

for a point

38:01

one fatality rate and

38:03

you know the next one as Bill Gates

38:05

says will get their attention.

38:07

What on earth will happen? In my opinion

38:09

I feel that what's happening now is a

38:11

post-mortem that they're co-opting

38:14

the narratives like let's they're injecting

38:16

lies that's in the origin story which

38:18

I'm tracking and they're

38:21

keep on saying like on the Twitter space well

38:23

you know for the next one for the next one for

38:25

the next one it's like but this one was

38:27

a hoax so what's this next

38:29

one? That's going to happen. What do you know?

38:31

I'm curious your thoughts on

38:35

when you think the next one will happen or

38:37

what

38:37

would occur because we know they

38:39

do have weapons they

38:42

have gain of function. They have a lot of stuff

38:44

out there with a higher.

38:46

Sorry? Oh no no I was just gonna say I think

38:48

they're definitely gearing up as far as when

38:50

I don't know but it'd be very convenient for

38:52

them to do you know

38:54

within this year leading up to the

38:56

next election cycle. I don't

38:59

know for sure obviously what they're going to do

39:01

but it wouldn't surprise

39:03

me. I feel like quite honestly

39:05

though they've already tried

39:07

to plant some you know I

39:09

guess do a little bit of feelers

39:12

and I think most of them have not worked you

39:15

know like they had the monkey pox one they've

39:18

had I'm gonna blank on the rest of them. RSV?

39:22

They did RSV? Yeah

39:24

RSV was another one. I feel like

39:26

they put little feelers out and I

39:29

think that this might be naive

39:31

of me or overly optimistic but I think

39:34

they have inadvertently

39:35

woken up

39:38

so many people that didn't quite go over

39:40

the way that they had anticipated so I

39:42

don't think they were able to you know

39:44

grab a hold of the scythe the

39:46

way that they would have liked to because that's

39:48

the thing with COVID it's not so much that people

39:50

and this is not to say that people that nobody

39:53

got sick you know but it

39:55

wasn't that wasn't what drove it it

39:57

was all the fear

39:59

that's what

39:59

was enable them to create the

40:02

compliance measure with the measures. So

40:04

I think that, but because this time

40:07

around a lot of people

40:08

were very skeptical. A lot of people said, oh,

40:10

hold up. This doesn't make sense. I'm not

40:12

buying it this time. So I definitely

40:15

think they're gonna try. I think they're

40:17

also

40:19

trying with a lot

40:21

of the, this is kind of my big concern,

40:24

but I've done a lot of, I know some of you here

40:26

have, definitely you have Miriam, but done

40:28

a lot of research on the nanotechnology. And

40:31

I

40:31

know a lot of people think that's too far.

40:33

That's too much of a crazy

40:35

conspiracy theory, but the patterns really exist.

40:38

The research and the science

40:40

is out there and it has been utilized.

40:43

So whether or not you think it's been done

40:45

to the extent that some people

40:48

claim or not, I guess that could be questionable,

40:50

but the technology is 100% verifiable,

40:54

absolutely exists. And my concern

40:56

is that they're going to now weaponize that in

40:59

the air. They're already doing it with chemtrails. Why

41:01

couldn't, when they just take it a step further, they

41:04

may already have. Why wouldn't they

41:06

do it? I know they have the technology and they're

41:08

talking about doing it with the water supply. They're

41:10

already

41:10

talking about putting, modified

41:14

mRNA into the

41:16

food supply, both into plants

41:18

and into the animals. So who's

41:20

to say that they're not going to take

41:22

it a step further and put something that

41:25

really is a very

41:27

either mass scale bioweapon

41:29

or very targeted bioweapon into

41:32

these things, which are really hard to

41:34

avoid. I mean, you can avoid having something injected

41:36

in your arm, but you can't necessarily

41:38

avoid the air that you breathe. It's

41:40

becoming clear that they, I

41:43

mean, this aerosolization of this

41:45

nano particles that they were going to do

41:47

as early as, well,

41:50

weeks before the pandemic

41:52

and as early as 2018, I've been reading

41:54

this like 528 page with Peter Daszak

41:57

looking

41:59

at

41:59

UC Davis's role

42:02

with Wuhan and the

42:04

fact that Wuhan was on one hand working

42:06

with UC Davis and God knows who

42:09

would predict program and then on the other

42:11

hand working with the Chinese

42:14

military and Karen Kingston I know

42:16

is of the mind that the

42:18

spike protein is really the nano lipid.

42:21

I'm curious. I actually

42:23

just interviewed her. Yeah, tell us that. She

42:26

was great. She was fantastic. Yeah.

42:29

But she said

42:29

it's really both. So she doesn't

42:32

think that and interestingly enough

42:34

Dr. Judy Mikevitz said the same thing that both

42:36

are an issue and both are problematic.

42:38

Yeah, I think so too. I think

42:40

people want to point the finger at one

42:43

or the other. I know I've heard some

42:45

people say that you know one

42:46

or the other doesn't exist at all. It's PSYOP.

42:49

But I think that where it becomes

42:51

problematic for to pinpoint

42:54

is because they

42:56

did different batches and because they're all different.

42:58

So when it's Dr. Karen, she can't speak

43:01

too much other than the Pfizer injections

43:04

because that's really where all of her research

43:06

stems and that's where she's done the deep dive.

43:09

But the Pfizer we know from the lawsuits

43:12

was based on the Moderna and the

43:14

Moderna. I mean they basically stole the technology

43:16

and the Moderna comes from DARPA. So

43:19

and now it looks like the J&J

43:21

while it's a slightly different mechanism,

43:24

it still has a lot of the nanoparticle

43:25

and certainly you

43:28

know it still has the same mechanism of creating

43:30

the spike factory factory. It's

43:32

just you know it's a different mechanism. But I

43:34

think yeah

43:36

the difference with the spike protein

43:38

nanoparticle versus the nanolipid

43:41

I think

43:43

and from what I gather talking to Karen

43:45

as well is that the nanolipid

43:48

encasement becomes very problematic just because

43:51

of the Hydra like

43:53

structure. So it's you know modeled after the

43:55

DARPA Hydra gel. And so that's

43:58

you know and that's been kind of my theory all the time.

43:59

long as to why they were censoring

44:03

all of the discussion around hydroxychloroquine

44:06

and hypermectin because those are both anti-parasitics.

44:09

And the nanolipidicasement,

44:12

which has this hydro-like

44:15

structure and of course the nanotechnology,

44:18

but it's it acts like it mimics

44:20

like a organic parasite.

44:23

But if the behavior is very similar, and

44:25

so the theory is that some of these anti-parasitic

44:28

drugs would still have an impact on it, and

44:30

I think that's part of why they were censoring.

44:32

Yeah, I would agree with you.

44:36

It's

44:37

also taking into consideration the

44:39

venom that is encapsulated in the payload.

44:42

And when they were looking at these

44:45

bat caves, and there's like seemingly

44:47

an obsession, and by the way, this PREDICT program

44:50

started in 2014, so

44:52

it's been leading up to it. And

44:55

I've been speaking with Dr. Braun,

44:57

I'm a big fan of Tal Braun, I think he's a genius,

45:00

and I also give a lot of credence to Dr.

45:03

Artist. So I

45:05

came across something regarding E.

45:07

coli, which they use to kind

45:10

of grow the spike. And

45:12

he told me that what they're doing

45:14

in the bat caves is not so much looking

45:16

for the bats, but the ticks that

45:19

live on the bats. And then he sent me

45:21

a paper on venom

45:23

that the ticks saliva is also considered

45:26

a venom like the snake. And

45:28

I would believe from my research that

45:30

these venom peptides, they

45:33

can go underneath the radar, and they

45:35

do mimic like when we're seeing the people

45:37

with the myocarditis or these sudden

45:40

deaths crashing and looking over the shoulder,

45:43

that if you look at a lion in the wild,

45:45

it gets bit by a cobra or

45:48

a cobra snake or other type of snake that

45:50

it's the same type of mechanism.

45:52

So I do think there's credence to

45:54

this venom aspect.

45:56

I agree with you. I actually

45:59

saw

45:59

It was maybe a month

46:02

or so ago, and it was Dr. Artist and

46:04

Karen Kingston both did presentations and they kind

46:06

of built off each other talking about

46:08

the snake venom. And I think there is definitely some

46:10

credence to that. There's also kind of like,

46:12

you know, depending on your worldview,

46:14

but there's a lot of biblical kind of references that

46:17

way. And we know that they definitely

46:19

have an anti-human kind of agenda.

46:22

So it makes sense that they would, that that would

46:25

definitely be a component. But the other

46:27

thing that was really interesting to me, and I

46:29

don't have any way of

46:32

verifying this, this was just kind of early

46:34

speculation and discussion. But

46:37

when I had all this stuff going on with my eye, I asked

46:39

my doctor, I said, so of course, you

46:42

know, very nervous. It's my one eye. So

46:44

I said to her, you know, trying to be polite,

46:47

but, you know, have you done this before? And

46:49

I'm sure this is something you have experience

46:51

with, you know? And she says, oh, I've done

46:53

five today. And

46:54

I said, five today? And

46:57

this is what's fascinating to me, because

46:59

typically, you know, three years ago, if I mentioned

47:01

a Shilesian to somebody, most people would say,

47:04

huh, what's that? Right? You've heard of a sty.

47:06

Most people had not heard of Shilesian. But

47:08

now it's like, you know,

47:10

eight out of 10 people I mentioned it to have

47:13

heard of it, not only heard of it, but either they themselves

47:16

have had it or somebody they know has had it. And

47:18

they say, oh, yeah, so-and-so had to have it cut out.

47:20

And it's like related. So

47:23

this is what she said to me. She's very cryptic

47:25

about how she obviously she didn't really know me. So

47:28

she doesn't know what she could say. Right. But

47:30

she says to me, well, I don't

47:32

know what you believe politically,

47:35

but

47:35

I think there's something

47:38

in the air where the

47:40

pollen seems to be intensified.

47:43

And I'm seeing a huge increase in

47:45

intraocular allergies. And I think

47:48

that these are a result of intraocular

47:51

allergies that have become intensified.

47:54

And then, you know, there's this reaction, you have

47:56

an encapsulation around it. And

47:58

when I interviewed Karen, I thought, well, I'm going to do this.

47:59

talk to her about this and she sent

48:02

me a document afterwards, which, and it's

48:04

pretty horrifying. There's two pages, it's a massive

48:06

document, but there are two pages

48:08

in it where they talk about how they're

48:10

using pollen

48:12

in order to, you know, export

48:15

some of this nanotechnology because of the molecular

48:17

structure. It's a hollow.

48:20

And so pollen's not the only thing. I'd love to

48:22

see that study. That's crazy. I'd

48:24

love to see that study. That's crazy.

48:28

Yeah, it's crazy. But I

48:30

was pretty horrified because I'm like, I hope that's not

48:32

what happened to me. But it

48:35

was definitely interesting research and they're definitely

48:37

using, pollen's not the only thing they're using, but

48:40

they're using things that, you know,

48:42

are pervasive that have hollow

48:44

structure in order to disseminate

48:47

some of this nanotechnology, at least for their research,

48:50

research, quote unquote, purposes. But yeah. We've

48:52

been seeing an uptick

48:55

in a term that I never thought

48:57

I would say, turbo

48:59

cancer. And I'm curious.

49:03

We, you know, we sort of know we've been

49:05

complaining and talking about the American

49:08

healthcare system, but I'm curious what happens

49:10

in Canada, Graham,

49:13

when, when you're on a socialized

49:16

medicine program and, and

49:18

a disproportionate number of people come

49:21

down with the same thing at roughly the

49:23

same time and kind of clog up the

49:25

system. Like what happens when you guys

49:27

get your turbo cancer

49:30

run, like we're getting here or all

49:32

of the other associated vaccine related

49:35

side effects? Like what happens when everybody

49:38

needs a cardiologist tomorrow

49:40

and there aren't enough to go around? Well, they probably

49:42

already have to wait like two or three months as it is. Yeah,

49:44

exactly. Like, could you explain what

49:47

the system is currently like? Even well,

49:49

yeah. Yeah. Cause I can't really

49:52

explain too much. I just know the system

49:54

doesn't work. And there's a couple

49:56

of hospitals in BC that are struggling right now. There's

49:58

even, they're even coming out of the media.

51:51

So

52:00

of course there's a, for immediate

52:02

emergencies and stuff, there's definitely

52:04

a comfort level there where I can just get

52:07

taken care of, but it's all the chronic

52:09

stuff and the long-term weight. It's

52:11

like you got to wait so long for it to get your knee

52:13

looked at that your knee healing

52:16

on its own before you even get a chance to get

52:19

an ultrasound

52:21

or whatever you need to do. But if the chronic pain

52:23

gets bad enough, you have suicide options. So

52:26

it's not as if they offer you nothing. Bring, get the maid

52:28

service in and you're laughing.

52:30

Medically assisted dying, yeah.

52:33

When I was growing up, we spent a lot of our family

52:35

vacations in Canada and

52:38

one of us would get sick and we would end up having

52:40

to end our vacation early and come home

52:43

because by the time we got seen,

52:45

the vacation would be over. And

52:48

so it was just like easier for

52:50

my parents to just pack us up early and bring

52:52

us home because then wait,

52:54

you know, on this waiting list. But

52:57

I remember because I was so frustrated by that,

52:59

when I got to high school, I was on the debate team and

53:01

the topic was the universalized

53:04

healthcare. And I remember

53:06

always being traumatized by having to end our family

53:08

vacations early in Canada.

53:10

I was like, there is no way I want to bring

53:12

that here. I

53:14

mean, I didn't have like a whole, obviously

53:17

then I had to do actual research and learn,

53:19

you know, what was involved. But

53:21

all I knew was I was traumatized because all of our family vacations,

53:24

not

53:24

all of them, but a lot of them, because one of us was always

53:26

sick, we're ending early.

53:29

My mom in Ottawa tells

53:31

me maybe I'm not allowed to go

53:33

see another doctor. And I'm like, what

53:36

do you mean? What is this? Like, you're not allowed

53:38

to go get another doctor. And

53:40

I still don't get it. I don't know if you could tell me,

53:42

Graham, it wasn't like that when I was in Canada.

53:45

No, I don't know why it's like that. I mean,

53:48

my girlfriend who has chronic issues, she

53:51

has a condition that they can't do anything

53:53

for. They won't even listen to the American

53:56

experts who we've spent hundreds of dollars to talk

53:58

to, to give them like their...

53:59

number to call them and say, Hey, this is like

54:02

the leading edge sort of treatment. We recommend

54:04

they won't even fucking touch it,

54:06

but they, she can go to as many doctors as she wants

54:08

it. And she just has to, the system isn't

54:10

really connected. So she has to just go do

54:12

all these things over again. She can get another X-ray

54:14

and another ultrasound and another test and another

54:17

test. So she's just spending all her time getting

54:19

tests

54:20

and nobody does anything for it. Well,

54:23

that sounds like chronic illness, even

54:25

in America, I mean, having dealt

54:28

with lupus and, and was told

54:30

there's no cure. And they gave me prednisone

54:33

and selexa. And I was like, Oh yeah, watch me motherfuckers.

54:36

Yeah. You have some, at least you have some independent

54:39

hospitals and stuff or, or independent clinics

54:42

that seem to be sort of, you know, ours,

54:44

you can't really do anything outside. There's not really much outside

54:46

the system, right? It's either the system or you

54:49

can do it outside, but you're paying for it all through

54:51

the nose anyways. So

54:52

all the taxes we pay for healthcare, all

54:54

the relief we get is outside of that system.

54:57

But the thing is that it's, it's the same thing

54:59

here for this PRP treatment. I

55:01

had to pay $800. The

55:04

insurance is not going to cover anything that really

55:07

brings any, any health.

55:09

Yeah. That's a good point. It's probably very similar

55:11

that your insurance is probably similar to our government,

55:15

the way, the way it works like that.

55:17

I, but I, I have this

55:19

love because I'm so being born in Portugal, obviously,

55:22

besides America, most of the Western world

55:25

has universal healthcare and

55:27

it is an issue. I mean, without a doubt, it's not

55:29

perfect, but I also know plenty of people

55:32

who have health issues or get in the accident

55:34

or whatever and spend their

55:37

whole lives paying off medical bills, you

55:39

know? And that is a also

55:42

crappy rabbit hole to be down

55:45

and stuck. And so it's like,

55:47

I don't know. Like I see both sides of the argument.

55:49

I'm like, neither of them are perfect. Neither of them

55:52

are good, you know? And that's why I

55:54

brought up earlier. I'm like, maybe we needed to stop

55:56

trying to figure out how to fix, you know,

55:58

our method of of getting prescription

56:00

drugs and just say, hey,

56:03

fuck prescription drugs, take care of your own

56:05

health. Like do your own, don't sit in

56:07

your doctor's, do your own research and

56:10

take health into your own hands. And of course

56:12

there are gonna be circumstances

56:14

where you can't do that because you do need

56:16

to get CAT scans or X-rays

56:19

or whatever. And for those

56:21

cases that they are necessary,

56:24

but also like don't

56:26

just take, they're not, don't

56:28

put the experts on

56:29

this pedestal where their advice is the only

56:32

one that you consider. And I've

56:35

told the show. That's the key, Ricky. Yeah, it

56:37

is the key. I mean, I've told the story a billion times

56:39

on my show because I think it's so crucial about

56:42

Jim Abrams, the filmmaker who did

56:44

Naked Gun and all those hilarious movies

56:46

and how he had a son who

56:48

had these violent seizures, hundreds

56:50

of them a day. And he went to every

56:53

expert and this was the peak of

56:56

his film career. So he had access

56:58

to all the best hospitals, all the best doctors, and

57:01

they basically just kept giving him pill after pill.

57:04

They even gave him a surgery

57:04

and nothing would

57:06

fix the issue than doing his own

57:09

research. You know, and this is why I bring this up. He was

57:11

doing his own research, runs into

57:13

a study by John Hopkins from the early 70s where

57:17

they found some success in putting

57:19

kids on the ketogenic diet

57:21

and using a dietary method to

57:23

cure these children of these

57:26

violent seizures. It was

57:28

working. So he, you know, they

57:30

showed success in these studies. So

57:33

he ends up bringing it up to his doctor.

57:34

His doctor says, sounds difficult.

57:37

And I wouldn't do it. It sounds difficult. He's

57:39

like, more difficult than my kid having

57:41

violent seizures every day. So

57:44

he puts his kid on the ketogenic diet, cures

57:47

him of all these seizures and starts

57:50

a foundation called the Charlie Foundation named after

57:52

his son. Basically, Charlie

57:54

Foundation looks at dietary ways

57:57

of curing and preventing disease. And

58:00

This was a guy who had access

58:02

to all the best experts and

58:04

he assumed if it

58:06

wasn't suggested by his doctor It was

58:08

either one didn't you know I just

58:11

other a alternative solution didn't exist

58:13

or if you heard about it It must be pseudoscience

58:16

because your doctor is not suggesting it So

58:18

that's why the story is important because so

58:20

many people are Stuck in

58:23

that box where it's just like well, I've

58:25

heard of this But if my doctor is not suggesting

58:27

it and if he's not mentioning it, it must not

58:29

work. It must not be your doctor That's

58:32

good. I'm just and to your point

58:34

Ricky, you know, there's a big difference between like trauma and wellness

58:37

Right, you know if I've got a gunshot wound, I'm

58:39

gonna go to the doctor wellness That's

58:42

a big old, you know ball of wax there

58:44

and you know the what we're talking about before You know the bad

58:46

food vicious cycle, right the bad food leads to

58:48

poor mental acuity which leads to laziness Which

58:51

leads to poor physical health which leads

58:53

to the point where it's like, oh, well, I guess it's just easier

58:55

I'm already lazy and fat might as well just take what this

58:58

person is gonna give me and Maybe

59:00

that'll fix it. And if not, you know, hey,

59:02

I tried I'm the victim here, right? I've given

59:04

away my agency at that point and therefore

59:06

I can't be wrong because it's it's the experts

59:09

that that gave gave

59:12

us this recommendation and

59:14

we were talking about ticks earlier a couple

59:16

times between the limes and the venom and I Was

59:19

listening to the new agenda show yesterday

59:21

and they were talking about the Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic

59:24

fever as being kind of like that next evolution

59:27

that next kind of kovat attempts I'm

59:29

wondering if any of you guys have heard any a thing

59:31

about it or if done any research into it cuz

59:34

You know, they were saying it had legs. I was kind of looking

59:36

into it a little bit but you know, I

59:39

Hemorrhagic fever, isn't

59:41

that what Ebola was supposed to be? I'm Monica.

59:43

Hi, Mary Again,

59:46

I remember the Ebola thing. I was

59:48

still like vaguely not sure every

59:51

single thing was fake and They

59:53

had I saw a

59:56

Signs in wherever

59:59

it was that Ebola was hitting saying

1:00:02

Ebola is real, remember?

1:00:05

And then I remember when it came to this

1:00:07

country, first of all, like the guy, the doctor

1:00:09

who had it was Samaritan at Samaritan's Purse.

1:00:11

And I was like, well, obviously, and then

1:00:13

if you dig into that stuff, Samaritan's

1:00:16

Purse and doctors at that borders, like they're

1:00:18

definitely deep state, they do

1:00:20

real things. It's like, always these things do real things,

1:00:22

but then it looks like there's obviously

1:00:25

deep state connections if you scratch the surface

1:00:27

there. And then like two,

1:00:29

not even two weeks after, remember

1:00:33

there was a young nurse, I think in Dallas

1:00:35

who had it and got over it and like everybody

1:00:37

else had died. And they got an interferon, no

1:00:39

one else did, but the white people got the interferon.

1:00:42

I have a picture, oh, maybe it's easy as that,

1:00:44

but I'm not even sure what it was. I mean, they caught

1:00:46

people putting formaldehyde in the drinking water, which

1:00:48

would, formaldehyde would do the exact same thing. But

1:00:50

I saw a picture of her hugging

1:00:53

Obama at the White House. And I was like,

1:00:56

this can't be, you know, there's not a chance

1:00:58

in the world, like not a chance in the world that

1:01:01

they just came up with this miracle cure. She's the only

1:01:03

person who ever survived and she's

1:01:06

hugging Obama. So maybe

1:01:08

it's coming, but I think like with

1:01:11

AZT and ventilators

1:01:13

and stuff,

1:01:14

they decide how bad it

1:01:16

is. Well, I would like to say

1:01:18

that before the Rona hit

1:01:22

and those of us covering vaccine safety,

1:01:25

we knew something was going to come

1:01:27

when they introduced vaccine hesitancy

1:01:30

in October, September. And

1:01:32

I started writing for Dr. Sherry

1:01:34

Tenpenny, a series on

1:01:37

Ebola and looking at the

1:01:40

folklore or the virus hunters,

1:01:42

because patient zero is always fuzzy.

1:01:44

You never

1:01:44

know who patient zero is, even though oftentimes

1:01:47

it happens inside a hospital

1:01:50

from a vaccine. But

1:01:53

now they're talking about NIPA, which

1:01:55

I don't know if it's hemorrhagic, but

1:01:58

to your point, they do have things that...

1:05:35

He

1:06:00

was involved in the anthrax simulations

1:06:03

as well. He was running those. And

1:06:05

so there's this connection,

1:06:09

you know, we got to get the messaging right. It's

1:06:12

just not enough to just have an outbreak,

1:06:14

right? We had like, what's the messaging going to be for

1:06:16

them? How are we going to manage it? How

1:06:18

are we going to produce this show

1:06:20

made for television event? Right. So it's

1:06:24

not a question of of if we're

1:06:26

going to get another one of these, it's just when. When

1:06:28

are we going to get

1:06:29

covid to electric boogaloo like next

1:06:32

year? Election like around the election.

1:06:34

Like what kind of fuckery

1:06:36

do they have planned on the schedule, on the calendar

1:06:39

for this? Because, you know, it's coming and

1:06:41

you know, it's going to come at a certain time because

1:06:44

they're they're managing it, the process.

1:06:47

Right. So so when does it come next?

1:06:49

You know, like I want to look up. They

1:06:52

have these guys who do the scenario analysis.

1:06:54

They're called futurists. And one of

1:06:56

them, which was connected to that whole thing, too,

1:06:58

is Peter Schwartz, who was

1:07:01

at Stanford Research Institute,

1:07:03

which he might or might not have worked on Siri,

1:07:05

which stands for Stanford Research Institute. That's

1:07:08

how I

1:07:09

discovered it. Looking, they definitely worked on remote

1:07:11

viewing. Yes. Oh, yeah. OK.

1:07:13

So he was involved in the Esalen Institute

1:07:16

back in the day. He did that 2010 technology. What

1:07:20

was his name again? Sorry, this guy's name

1:07:22

is Peter Schwartz. He's considered a futurist.

1:07:24

But there's the thing called the Global Business Network,

1:07:27

which is the company that who

1:07:29

conducts these scenarios. But it's

1:07:32

I've always thought it would be interesting to

1:07:34

just

1:07:35

see what this guy says. And

1:07:37

then you'll know you'll even be one step ahead

1:07:40

of the next scenario. That's going to be one

1:07:42

step ahead of the next hemorrhagic

1:07:44

fever or

1:07:45

monkey. I want to get the domain. I

1:07:47

want to get the domain name first. You

1:07:49

know, I want to get monkeypox.com before anybody else.

1:07:52

No,

1:07:52

monkeypox is Mpox.

1:07:54

Says Mpox. Monkeypox is racist,

1:07:57

Charlie. Isn't it right? It's just so racist. to

1:08:00

say that that is racist is the most racist

1:08:02

thing I've ever heard. Just, hey,

1:08:04

ooh. If I were to put on my

1:08:07

monocle and my trench coat and

1:08:09

sit in a smoke filled room, my guess would

1:08:12

be that they're saving it for whenever

1:08:14

the economic consequences are truly being felt

1:08:16

from the money printing and lockdowns.

1:08:19

So I think we got a little bit of time,

1:08:21

but probably not a ton. So

1:08:23

that's my expectation is it's going to be a diversion to

1:08:26

try and keep us from revolting. That

1:08:28

would be my guess. And that would actually

1:08:30

be the best case scenario because the worst case

1:08:33

scenario is World War III to use

1:08:35

as the

1:08:35

cover to mask this economic

1:08:37

collapse. So I guess maybe we're just going

1:08:39

to be stuck with hemorrhagic fever. You

1:08:42

know what's interesting about the economic thing, not

1:08:44

to completely turn up like 90 degrees, though

1:08:47

is that they,

1:08:49

I think I believe

1:08:51

that they inflated and whatever did

1:08:53

this entire thing. Like I think a main

1:08:55

reason that they did COVID when they did it

1:08:57

is that we were up against and I always think of Charlie's

1:08:59

like control demolition of the American

1:09:02

economy, that they were getting

1:09:04

ready. They were running out of runway.

1:09:07

They had an 11 year expansion and two and a half

1:09:09

percent interest rates. They absolutely had to get them

1:09:11

back up to say 5%. And this was an opportunity

1:09:14

to create massive, massive inflation. But

1:09:16

that in itself makes me think

1:09:18

that they're going

1:09:19

for another round

1:09:21

of this monetary system. That

1:09:24

they're trying that they're doing like another 10 year

1:09:27

thing. I just wonder if when

1:09:29

you say like we've got a little time, maybe it's

1:09:31

just going to be next year. But

1:09:34

I feel like they could

1:09:37

have orchestrated the collapse now, but they

1:09:39

did this instead.

1:09:40

I actually agree with your assessment there.

1:09:43

Because if they wanted to just

1:09:45

let the hyperinflationary death spiral occur

1:09:48

and transition to a central bank digital currency,

1:09:50

they could have done so. I mean, the money

1:09:52

had been printed. All you had to do was basically

1:09:54

keep interest rates at the zero bound as

1:09:57

it had been for many, many years. And it would

1:09:59

have. naturally occurred. So I

1:10:01

think that the fact that they went through an aggressive

1:10:04

interest rate hiking cycle tells me that

1:10:06

the Federal Reserve or the old money crowd

1:10:09

has opted to delay

1:10:11

the day of reckoning. Yeah, they're not ready

1:10:13

for the CBDC. That's my read.

1:10:16

What about a cyber attack? We keep talking about

1:10:18

viruses, the next big thing being,

1:10:21

I mean, I think maybe the cyber

1:10:23

attack is, and they seem like

1:10:25

they're slowly planting a seed

1:10:28

and kind of talking about

1:10:30

it, discussing it, getting people kind

1:10:32

of worried about it. I

1:10:35

mean, why not take down the internet?

1:10:37

You know,

1:10:38

maybe that's why they're not ready for the CBDC

1:10:40

is because the cyber attack would kind of put a monkey

1:10:42

wrench in that.

1:10:44

Or maybe they'll like they'll come together in that moment,

1:10:46

because this thing like AI hitting

1:10:48

the news all at once. And they've even said

1:10:50

like, we're not reporting anything new.

1:10:53

We're just all reporting it at once.

1:10:55

You know, they just, oh, something happened. These

1:10:57

guys like got to aggressive jump the gun and now

1:11:00

we're just releasing everything. I mean, that

1:11:02

was obviously timed for a reason.

1:11:07

No, I go back and forth on the cyber attack

1:11:09

thing because you know, that it's

1:11:12

been one of my bigger, I guess you could call

1:11:14

it fears or concerns because you know, that's

1:11:16

how all of us communicate. But then, you know,

1:11:19

I've heard it brought up that it's it's the panacea

1:11:21

for the masses in a sense. Like if people stop

1:11:23

looking at TikTok doom scrolling for most

1:11:26

of their day, I

1:11:27

think a lot of people would be kind of pissed off

1:11:29

after a little bit. And I think it would just kind of almost

1:11:31

work against them. And they've word game that

1:11:33

a little bit somehow, like it's, I feel

1:11:35

like that's like it almost a last resort. Like I'm sure

1:11:37

there's plenty of ways of making

1:11:40

a lot of chaos with focused

1:11:42

attacks. And if Mike were here, I'm sure he would

1:11:45

inform us all about how they could do that. But I don't

1:11:47

know if like the internet kill switch is but

1:11:50

you think that that's exactly why I would work

1:11:52

because everybody would be so upset that

1:11:55

and then we'd be like government,

1:11:57

please don't don't let this happen to us again.

1:11:59

I want to scroll.

1:11:59

on Instagram and TikTok and don't, you

1:12:02

know, let's, whatever we need to do, let's invest,

1:12:04

like protect us from this, right? Well,

1:12:07

okay. But it's going to need, we're going to

1:12:09

need a digital ID.

1:12:11

Yeah, fair enough. Where you go to your friendly neighborhood conspiracy

1:12:14

theorists and like, Hey, what were you saying about all that stuff?

1:12:16

All those years that I chose not to listen to. Problem

1:12:19

reaction solution and internet false

1:12:21

flag that creates the opportunity for

1:12:23

them to mandate a digital ID. We would have known

1:12:26

who this person was, but they were using

1:12:28

a VPN and now we couldn't save

1:12:30

those 33 33 33 children that were shot at a school. That's

1:12:35

the respect act, the respect

1:12:38

act, the restrict act, the restrict act doesn't

1:12:40

really ban TikTok. I don't think

1:12:42

there's, it's like so sloppily written and vague

1:12:45

and whatever. I can't imagine it passing, but I

1:12:47

feel like just like Sispa and Sopa,

1:12:50

they are not going to get a pass, but each one of those

1:12:52

things will happen probably

1:12:54

because of a false flag. So I'm look, now I

1:12:57

am actually waiting for specific false flags

1:12:59

to usher in these, what I call like crisis

1:13:01

policy, but I have to coin a phrase

1:13:03

for Jeff like TikTok is the opiate

1:13:05

of I gen.

1:13:07

Yeah. And,

1:13:09

and maybe it is just like the amount of time

1:13:11

it's down, right? Like even if it was just the power grid

1:13:13

going down, if you wouldn't have their medication for

1:13:15

even a few days, you know, most

1:13:18

diabetics are out of the equation, you know, like it

1:13:20

doesn't have to be a long term thing.

1:13:22

And then to Charlie's point and all that,

1:13:24

like, Oh, here's the solution. You see how all

1:13:26

your friends died. The ones who just ate

1:13:28

nothing but high fructose corn syrup. Yeah.

1:13:31

You don't have any

1:13:32

trans people are going to have to have their

1:13:35

meds and then our problems.

1:13:37

Yeah. There's a lot of things that are permanently

1:13:40

stuck in the, like a

1:13:42

lifelong pharmaceutical client with them.

1:13:45

Well, have you guys seen the murmurings right now about

1:13:47

all the military movement in the States and in Canada

1:13:49

and that people are saying that this, what you guys are talking

1:13:52

about is going to happen soon. Like this weekend, like

1:13:54

this, that they're going to shut

1:13:56

down the internet and then bring out, you know, it's

1:13:58

going to be like martial law and all the

1:13:59

in all the cities. That's

1:14:02

Jade Helm 2015. Remember that? Remember that?

1:14:04

People are saying, actually people that isn't even

1:14:07

in LA, people are like, oh, I know a guy because I'm

1:14:09

a service and he's saying blah, blah, blah.

1:14:12

And then they're going to come back with the

1:14:14

CBDCs. Like the internet will go down, however

1:14:16

they'll do that. And then come back with the IDs

1:14:19

and the CBDCs. I don't

1:14:20

know. So is there really more military

1:14:23

tanks than usual? Because I was

1:14:25

told, oh, this is always happening. It's not

1:14:27

more than

1:14:29

the huge, what's the

1:14:31

truth? Because I've heard that as well.

1:14:34

I don't know. I'm very skeptical of it too. I think like,

1:14:37

why is this going viral now? Why are people all of a

1:14:39

sudden showing videos of all this military

1:14:41

stuff? Like my first initial reaction is like,

1:14:44

don't attach anything to this yet.

1:14:46

It's the boiling pot. Keep

1:14:50

us just a little. That's also part

1:14:52

of the design. Just keep

1:14:55

us on edge. But

1:14:57

not believing anything is also part of the

1:14:59

design of the objective. And then

1:15:01

it's like, they could easily, if

1:15:04

you study bioweapons, these virus hunters,

1:15:06

they are, we haven't talked yet about

1:15:09

SV40 being programmed

1:15:13

into the shots. So clearly

1:15:15

they can F us up if they want

1:15:17

to. So while people are like, ah,

1:15:20

no, this is another hoax. And then

1:15:23

just putting it up. Well,

1:15:25

bio, I mean, Lyme disease was

1:15:28

maybe a bioweapon, right? We had Chris Newby

1:15:31

on my show, I know. And then eventually we ended up

1:15:33

having her on the UMD unwanted. And

1:15:36

she was a scientist who went

1:15:38

on vacation in the East Coast, got some

1:15:41

disease that everybody misdiagnosed

1:15:43

in the West Coast when she went back home, was

1:15:45

bedridden for a couple of years, couldn't figure out what

1:15:48

was. And then she got really intrigued with like, what's

1:15:51

going on with this Lyme disease? How come nobody

1:15:53

really understands it or know its origin

1:15:55

story or anything like that? And then come

1:15:57

to find out she uncovers

1:15:58

that it is. more than likely a bioweapon.

1:16:02

And there you have Tix again looking at the

1:16:04

saliva that is venomous. And

1:16:07

I think she's the one who also did, she did

1:16:09

Bitten, but she also did a film that was

1:16:11

playing at the Sedona Film Festival

1:16:13

at the same time my B-movie was

1:16:16

coming out called Under Your Skin, Under

1:16:18

My Skin, which scared the bejeezys out

1:16:20

of me. I don't know if any of you have seen it.

1:16:23

Well, if I were to design a bioweapon, man,

1:16:26

Lime's is pretty much like point for

1:16:28

point, someone really close to me, dealt

1:16:30

with it for a very long time, is still

1:16:32

dealing with it, characterized

1:16:35

by blackout fits of rage, couldn't get

1:16:37

out of their own way, couldn't make doctors

1:16:39

appointments, couldn't get out of bed. It kind of

1:16:42

did both sides, right? It completely paralyzed

1:16:44

them

1:16:45

to be a normal functioning human being. And

1:16:47

then also led to them lashing

1:16:50

out and ripping doors off the

1:16:52

hinge and punching holes in walls and not

1:16:54

remembering it and like Manchurian

1:16:56

candidates. Like there's so many elements

1:16:58

to it that really freaked me out. And

1:17:01

I'm kind of surprised we're not

1:17:03

seeing more of an uptick of it for whatever,

1:17:05

tick pun of it for some reason,

1:17:08

but- And it's

1:17:08

weird, because isn't it not easy to

1:17:10

diagnose?

1:17:12

No, it's my mother has it, had

1:17:14

it, has it. I mean, she still has symptoms from

1:17:16

it. She was misdiagnosed too. She

1:17:19

has like tons of health issues now that

1:17:21

only came about after getting Lyme

1:17:24

disease. And

1:17:26

I don't know, because my mom's one of those people that

1:17:30

she doesn't take responsibility

1:17:33

for any of her lack of taking

1:17:35

care of herself. So she blames

1:17:37

everything on Lyme disease. So

1:17:39

it's like she was late to my kid's birthday party

1:17:41

because of Lyme disease. I'm kidding. But it was,

1:17:46

she has like joint issues, digestive

1:17:49

issues, like all these things started happening

1:17:51

after getting Lyme disease that it's hard for

1:17:53

me not to connect the dots. I think that it must be

1:17:55

related. My daughter during COVID,

1:17:58

because in the East Coast we have ticks. everywhere

1:18:00

and everybody's petrified of potentially

1:18:02

getting Lyme disease. It's actually quite common over here.

1:18:05

And my

1:18:07

daughter got it because we were playing soccer outside

1:18:09

during COVID. We're

1:18:12

at the park or whatever and then

1:18:14

we found a tick on her later that night,

1:18:17

pulled it off.

1:18:19

We called the pediatrician at the time.

1:18:21

They're like, don't bring her in because it's COVID

1:18:24

and blah, blah, blah. So we're like, well,

1:18:27

we're concerned because it could be Lyme disease and

1:18:29

we just want to get her looked at. And

1:18:32

we saw the ring the next day. And then

1:18:34

we're, so we call them back. We're like, hey, this is like

1:18:36

serious. It's Lyme disease. I'm like, you know, of course,

1:18:39

because my mother had it, I was freaking out. I'm

1:18:41

like, no, we need to get this taken care of immediately.

1:18:43

They gave her two weeks antibiotics,

1:18:46

which obviously, like, you know, anybody

1:18:49

who's in the health knows that, you know, being

1:18:51

on antibiotics for long periods of time is not

1:18:53

a good thing, but it did completely

1:18:56

get the, get the Lyme disease out

1:18:58

of her system. And she's fine. She's

1:19:00

absolutely fine. And it just showed like the

1:19:02

drastic differences of like, okay,

1:19:05

you diagnose it correctly immediately. You get

1:19:08

on antibiotics. It's not, it's like not

1:19:10

a thing. Like

1:19:10

it was antibiotics only working. Sorry

1:19:13

to cut you off. They only work in the beginning. If

1:19:15

it's embedded in you and there is a bacterial

1:19:18

component, then antibiotics

1:19:20

are not, especially also looking at

1:19:22

the person's history. If I'm working

1:19:25

with someone and they were like me grew up taking

1:19:27

antibiotics like candy, I'm allergic to all

1:19:29

of them. And it's not,

1:19:31

it's not an option. But

1:19:34

if it's treated quickly, then

1:19:36

the majority of our food, I like, what is it like 80,

1:19:38

some ridiculous percentage, Miriam,

1:19:41

you would know, like what percentage of antibiotics goes

1:19:43

to our food, you know, is in our

1:19:45

food. It's like it goes for

1:19:46

life estate because life is

1:19:49

in our soil. And glyphosate is essentially

1:19:51

an antibiotic. So

1:19:53

we're becoming immune to them. Yeah. Well,

1:19:55

there's antibiotic resistance epidemic

1:19:58

is real. And also like in other. parts

1:20:00

of the world. Let's say I was

1:20:03

studying permaculture in Nicaragua.

1:20:06

You can just walk into the pharmacy and

1:20:08

self-prescribe. And my friend, I

1:20:11

diagnosed him. I'm like, dude, you have hepatitis.

1:20:14

And he was going to go take an antibiotic.

1:20:16

And I'm like, don't do it. And when I looked up

1:20:18

the literature, that specific antibiotic

1:20:21

actually can give you hepatitis.

1:20:24

So it was good he didn't take it. It's not like the

1:20:26

end all be all. I know some people who

1:20:29

would disagree. But again, it depends

1:20:31

on your personal history.

1:20:33

Like when I did after I interviewed

1:20:35

artists about parasites,

1:20:37

and I went to the parasitology

1:20:39

lab that he recommended in my poop,

1:20:42

it came up that I was allergic to all antibiotics.

1:20:45

So if something happens, I'm shit

1:20:48

out of luck. And that's why I also sell

1:20:50

silver 4000 ppm silver

1:20:53

because it's an act. Speaking

1:20:56

of that, do you

1:20:58

want to screen share? Do you want to? We're gonna

1:21:01

Ricky, we said we're gonna go an hour and a half

1:21:03

and we were gonna wrap up. But I wanted to I wanted

1:21:05

to say with the honey colony, you guys

1:21:07

having a sale?

1:21:09

We are transitioning after

1:21:12

having an economic embezzler. So we're

1:21:15

moving things to simply transformative.

1:21:18

And I'm fixing my magazine

1:21:20

that will reside on any colony. So we are

1:21:22

having a big sale, like a big sale.

1:21:26

Cool. And I

1:21:28

just wanted to I wanted to plug it and

1:21:31

your new sub stack is out to

1:21:33

that. Where can we find it? That's that

1:21:36

sweet Scott Armstrong is helping me where

1:21:38

I can find it. You mean the address?

1:21:40

What not your house, of course, but you know,

1:21:42

best place to find your work.

1:21:45

address. No, no, Mary main dot sub

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stack calm and then people can come to honey

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colony calm and use the

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lady 15 for a discount.

1:21:55

And I guess we're plugging for yourself.

1:21:57

So I'll just you can find my show

1:22:00

On Fridays, I think this Friday is

1:22:02

my interview with Jennifer Sharp, a little

1:22:04

late, but the director of anecdotals

1:22:08

regarding vaccine

1:22:09

injuries. And I'm

1:22:11

also a functional medicine coach and consultant

1:22:14

through IFM. And I have

1:22:16

a detox guide for vaccine injured

1:22:19

people. I'd love to speak to

1:22:21

Susie off after the show,

1:22:24

but just to tell the audience that not, I

1:22:26

published it on Smashwords and not only

1:22:28

did they delete my ebook, but

1:22:30

all my other eBooks and my profile of six

1:22:33

years. So you could find that detox guide.

1:22:35

It's a collection of protocols on merriam-hennay.com.

1:22:39

Thank you. Thank

1:22:40

you. Well, before we wrap up, because I think Monica,

1:22:43

Monica didn't share her thoughts. We're talking about

1:22:45

the RFK Jr. podcast

1:22:48

with Rogan.

1:22:49

I haven't seen

1:22:51

it yet. I got to see it. I'm so sus

1:22:54

of, you know, everything. Oh

1:22:59

my God. You sound like my kids. I

1:23:01

just can't, you know, I mean, RFK

1:23:04

Jr. was the black sheep and

1:23:06

I wonder if they got him a role to play. And

1:23:08

I don't know. I mean, I hate to be super cynical.

1:23:11

And as a matter of fact, I always loved Ron Paul. And he

1:23:13

could, you could say the same thing about him. Like

1:23:15

libertarianism isn't going to fight the new

1:23:17

world order.

1:23:19

Yeah, no, I understand the

1:23:21

skepticism. I do, but you know, I've

1:23:24

even had people reach out to

1:23:26

me, to listeners of my show. And they're just like, Rick,

1:23:29

how do you not see it? You know, he's not one

1:23:31

of us. And he, you know, and I'm just like,

1:23:34

he was on the biggest show on

1:23:36

the planet. And he did two hours

1:23:39

of just completely destroying

1:23:41

vaccine, you know, science,

1:23:44

like the mainstream narrative on vaccines. I'm

1:23:47

like, how can that be a bad thing?

1:23:49

Like, I just don't understand like how people,

1:23:52

and I know I'm going to get listeners who are pissed at me for saying

1:23:54

this, because it just, there, do

1:23:57

we get to a point where it's just like,

1:23:59

We. I

1:24:01

don't know. I mean, we get what's

1:24:03

the point of that sentence, but I will say how can

1:24:05

it be a bad thing? I personally

1:24:07

have a mantra like I get more

1:24:09

out of limited hangouts than they get out

1:24:11

of me because I'm not

1:24:13

going to listen to the punchline. So

1:24:16

they spend all this time putting

1:24:18

together reasons to believe

1:24:20

in him, reasons to buy

1:24:23

into the cult of personality, which is true for

1:24:25

Ron Paul, for Trump, for a lot of people, Tucker

1:24:28

Carlson, probably. And then in the end,

1:24:30

when they deliver, you

1:24:31

know, you can trust me, you know me.

1:24:34

We have to have World War three right now. Like,

1:24:36

you know, and a lot of times it's something totally

1:24:40

not in the thing that they were talking about in the

1:24:42

first place. And there's also

1:24:44

this element of, you know,

1:24:46

you have to have two sides of everything. You

1:24:48

have to have a robust fight. And if you

1:24:50

don't have a robust fight with well-defined

1:24:53

parameters on each side, you

1:24:55

might have some rogue

1:24:57

influencer who says truth

1:25:00

that doesn't fit in either of the baskets.

1:25:02

He isn't a deplorable and he isn't an

1:25:04

irrational and, you know, people

1:25:06

could think and listen. So I

1:25:09

feel like there are reasons that some of these people

1:25:11

seem good but

1:25:13

are playing their role in a

1:25:16

loosely scripted plan that is unfolding

1:25:19

according to the script.

1:25:21

However, I think

1:25:23

that all of that indicates that we do have

1:25:26

some control and they don't have total,

1:25:28

you know, they have to deal with human nature, which

1:25:31

is is random like chaos

1:25:33

theory, free will. These things are their

1:25:35

problem and they

1:25:37

structure it this way. But we can still think.

1:25:40

And I don't have to believe in him to

1:25:43

tell the difference between when he says something true and and

1:25:46

not. But a lot of people, I don't know if they can. I

1:25:49

agree with you, Ricky. I'm there, too. I'm like, how can

1:25:51

that be a bad thing? That was the biggest blow to the

1:25:53

childhood vaccine issue ever. I

1:25:56

mean, unbelievable. So how

1:25:58

can that be like, how can bringing all that? Ford

1:26:00

in such a way that he did it where it seemed

1:26:02

very genuine. You know, he didn't even have any

1:26:04

notes there. He just knew it all.

1:26:07

You know, you really can't argue with

1:26:09

them. They can't debate. They can't debate

1:26:11

them on that. I mean, it's it's how

1:26:13

can that be? It's hard for me to imagine

1:26:15

the controlled op. I mean, but I try to see the

1:26:17

bigger picture, too, that that this

1:26:20

is about sort of corralling like both

1:26:23

sides of it. But it's yeah, it

1:26:25

seems very risky.

1:26:27

Well, it's just like when people would say that that

1:26:29

Rogan's a show. And sorry, Charlie,

1:26:31

I know we messed up your whole exit, but sorry,

1:26:35

Charlie. There's the thing is

1:26:37

like when they say Rogan's a show, I'm like, that's not

1:26:39

like, oh, but he's had this person on who said this.

1:26:42

I'm like, yeah. But I'm like, he had Dr. Sanjay

1:26:44

Gupta on not to promote him,

1:26:46

but to debate him. I'm

1:26:49

like, OK, you take some good with

1:26:51

some bad. Like there's going to be

1:26:52

different Rogan's different

1:26:54

because he's a

1:26:57

host. He doesn't have to be

1:26:59

a believer. He doesn't you don't have to believe him as a

1:27:01

personality. If they say long time.

1:27:02

Don't wouldn't you agree that

1:27:05

you thought it was unfair that he

1:27:07

would have people on like Dr. or

1:27:09

Dr. Hotez, but would not have somebody from the

1:27:11

other side of the argument.

1:27:13

I think they tell him that at this point

1:27:15

he has parameters, too. But that,

1:27:18

I think, should be pretty straightforward.

1:27:20

It's like, all right. Well, he's not doing everything. He had to back

1:27:22

off the moon landing to keep his job. OK, fine.

1:27:25

You know, like that doesn't bother me. But this other

1:27:27

guy might be leading the charge

1:27:30

on some kind of radical climate policy.

1:27:33

And he's got us all believing

1:27:36

because I don't care. Like, I'm not saying

1:27:38

like we need to believe that he's a

1:27:40

shell. I'm just saying I think that to

1:27:43

have

1:27:43

leaders because

1:27:45

Rogan is he's an influencer, but he's not a

1:27:48

leader. He's not taking the place

1:27:50

of somebody who's running.

1:27:51

I don't know. I mean. People listen

1:27:53

to him like, you know, even if he says, oh,

1:27:56

I'm just an idiot, comedian, blah, blah, blah,

1:27:58

like when the pandemic happened.

1:27:59

And then he had that I forgot the actual

1:28:02

show that was on who scared the crap

1:28:04

out of everybody. People, I

1:28:07

mean, I had people arguing with me. They're like, hey, don't

1:28:09

you like Rogan Rogan even is taking this

1:28:12

seriously. I'm like, this

1:28:12

is the problem. That's what I'm saying. Like, I

1:28:15

think we are critical thinkers and we

1:28:17

can think through this. But but

1:28:19

the real problem and the more I do this and

1:28:21

the more callers I had and the more I could hear

1:28:23

people talk about Trump like he,

1:28:26

you know, liked Trump, even

1:28:28

though he never defended the Constitution

1:28:30

but would hate Obama because he never defended

1:28:33

the Constitution. I was like, oh, I see. You're

1:28:35

not really thinking. And that is our problem.

1:28:38

And then I started questioning democracy, which is OK

1:28:40

because I'm an anarcho-capitalist.

1:28:44

Oh, yeah, you are. I hear you. I'm

1:28:46

just saying like I get it. I get what you're saying.

1:28:48

But here's the problem because there are people who are influenced.

1:28:51

The demos, the demos is influenced.

1:28:54

Come on, Courtney. Thank you. Come on.

1:28:56

Back me up here. Well, I definitely

1:28:59

I think when it comes to Rogan, I would agree with

1:29:01

that. I mean, I I think and

1:29:04

I definitely agree that he has parameters at this point.

1:29:06

I mean, you know, he's he's

1:29:08

owned by Spotify, who's owned by Big Pharma.

1:29:10

So if we're going to pretend that he doesn't

1:29:13

have some sort of parameters with which he has

1:29:15

to stay in order to think that

1:29:17

if that was a little naive,

1:29:20

but don't you think like if that

1:29:22

is the case, like if there was ever

1:29:25

a time to

1:29:27

jump in and and have some

1:29:29

restrictions on who he's going to have on the show,

1:29:32

having somebody like Robert Kennedy Jr. during

1:29:34

the moment where his popularity

1:29:37

is growing, like if you're going to have

1:29:39

if somebody controls the

1:29:42

show to some extent or he has

1:29:44

some some lines he can't

1:29:46

cross, like he must have crossed

1:29:48

it because you just had.

1:29:50

Oh, I don't think so. I think so.

1:29:52

So long that is incredible

1:29:56

that and maybe the debate would

1:29:58

never happen. Exactly.

1:32:00

10 years ago, you would not have these

1:32:02

conversations. And I love that I'm

1:32:04

seeing people on both sides of the aisle, the middle

1:32:07

of the aisle, outside the aisle, having

1:32:09

these conversations. And maybe,

1:32:11

just maybe, people will remember

1:32:14

that it was of the people by the people

1:32:16

for the people. And maybe they will

1:32:18

remember that it is supposed

1:32:20

to be an experiment of self-governance, which means that

1:32:23

it is really up to we the people to

1:32:25

save us. It is up to we the people to save

1:32:28

this great experiment. If you believe it was a great

1:32:30

experiment.

1:32:30

I think Joe Biden's going to come

1:32:32

parachuting in at the last minute

1:32:35

with his pants full of shit and

1:32:38

save the day for everybody involved.

1:32:41

I have a feeling it's going to happen.

1:32:43

I want to get

1:32:44

Matt Errett. I didn't have a very good enough imagination to envision

1:32:46

this, but now that you brought a picture.

1:32:49

Since he's, since he, since he's,

1:32:52

we brought in the relief pitcher to close out the

1:32:54

game, Matt Errett, unlimited hangout, the last

1:32:56

American vagabond, what's going on? What are you working on lately?

1:32:59

Every time I, every time you send stuff.

1:33:01

I bet Biden has been the sleeper, the

1:33:03

patriotic sleeper, just faking it the whole time

1:33:06

that he's this delusional nut job. And

1:33:08

actually this whole time, he's the thing

1:33:10

QAnon has been waiting for. It's 5D chess.

1:33:15

Yeah, the sleeper is the right time. 18 and a half of D chess. It's really

1:33:17

sleeping.

1:33:17

Yeah, yeah, what a ridiculous thing. Well, I mean,

1:33:19

I think for myself, like the thing that I

1:33:21

find, well, what I really liked

1:33:24

about what was just being said that I was listening to is

1:33:26

just the idea

1:33:28

of the United States as

1:33:30

an experiment that had never been done before

1:33:33

in practice. It had been an idea for

1:33:35

thousands of years, but wasn't really actualized

1:33:38

in any way in practical,

1:33:39

the real practical world until

1:33:42

a very specific moment in that most

1:33:44

Canadians have all been trained to hate and

1:33:46

despise because Canadians are part of

1:33:48

the British, you know, the British

1:33:50

monarchical system. And we were always taught to believe that

1:33:53

we're the good, the good children

1:33:55

of the monarchy because we never like fought

1:33:57

for anything or bled for anything. So we just knew and

1:33:59

had to do it.

1:33:59

had the patience and wisdom to know that if we stayed loyal

1:34:02

to Her Majesty and the grander of the British crown,

1:34:06

then eventually rights

1:34:07

and freedoms would be granted to

1:34:09

us if we were patient. And we were and they are

1:34:11

and we are free. And it's like fucking

1:34:14

insane. But honestly, like this is like some

1:34:16

garbage that's been honed for generations, fed

1:34:18

to grandparents and great grandparents

1:34:22

of Canadians. And we've forgotten that

1:34:24

like, no, we're a nation founded on a bunch

1:34:26

of, I'm sorry, I'll be harsh, maybe there

1:34:28

were good people in the mix, but a bunch of for the English

1:34:31

Canadians, at least the

1:34:32

United Empire loyalists who

1:34:34

hated and despise the concept of

1:34:37

the American Revolution,

1:34:38

and wanted to remain loyal to the British

1:34:40

global system. And for the longest time, the British Empire was

1:34:43

the only world government, right? The sun never set

1:34:45

on the British Empire. So I mean, that was that was a world

1:34:47

government. It wasn't a government of just people in funny

1:34:49

suits, funny red suits, suppressing

1:34:51

natives, it was also a, it was primarily

1:34:53

a system of global banking, global finance, the city

1:34:56

of London back then, just like today was the nerve

1:34:58

center of global global influence,

1:35:01

intelligence operations, you know, we're,

1:35:03

we're integrated with Hellfire Club operations

1:35:05

of pedophilia, racket, you know, like the

1:35:07

worst shit you could imagine, was what was going

1:35:09

on back in the back in the day. So

1:35:12

it was it was a multifaceted beast, just like today,

1:35:14

maybe the costumes changed. And that's what Canada

1:35:16

stayed loyal to. And

1:35:18

John Adams made the point that the

1:35:20

United States Republic is a

1:35:23

new type of society that

1:35:25

is that is designed

1:35:28

for a moral, a moral and religious people

1:35:30

and is wholly unfit for any other.

1:35:33

And as soon as you

1:35:34

lose those those conditions upon which

1:35:36

the Democratic Republic of the United States requires,

1:35:39

you know, it needs to have that type of cultural

1:35:42

elevated level of self discipline, people

1:35:45

who are like, you know, mature, who

1:35:47

can like live with their conscience and, and,

1:35:49

and use their sovereign powers

1:35:51

of reason in order to have a sovereign nation, you have to have sovereign

1:35:54

people, meaning people who are informed and moral. If

1:35:57

you lose that, you can't have

1:35:59

a republic, it'll be a

1:35:59

public in name only it'll be demagogues running the show

1:36:02

eight people in the cage a cave

1:36:05

they they even said that

1:36:07

in terms of the free market rate

1:36:09

that they're a would only work

1:36:11

if you had the g judeo christian values

1:36:13

the didn't mean you had to be jewish or christian

1:36:15

but it with the the value that were embedded in

1:36:18

order to be the counter to

1:36:20

what would otherwise just be greed running

1:36:22

amok in a system that had no boundaries

1:36:25

thank god we don't have that anymore hey

1:36:27

now now now now

1:36:29

now we have only the greed so we

1:36:32

don't worry about the rest of it well i

1:36:34

would like the record to reflect the i

1:36:36

asked merriam to plug her show

1:36:38

and i pulled out a little early

1:36:40

and we're land at our wrapping

1:36:42

up a show about we were land in

1:36:45

this plane thank you for

1:36:47

that i applaud the what better than

1:36:49

plugging twice that's the how you get ah

1:36:51

like your people don't forget right berkshire

1:36:54

fifth right will how could you forget miriam the outstanding

1:36:57

work on george floyd her

1:37:00

on colony she's the be

1:37:03

lady you know and

1:37:05

should take care be if you're sick to if you need something

1:37:07

she's the she's a person to to talk to

1:37:09

about that let's let's wrap this let's

1:37:12

wrap this baby uploads go to the to moniker

1:37:14

and i'm curious would go would cooking

1:37:16

with deep dives what do you have come on guys

1:37:20

like as you and i are always indo like the

1:37:22

same night

1:37:22

and now we need to do occur to

1:37:24

manic i know i'm moving a movie

1:37:27

gets her house that has been in the backyard mariam

1:37:30

and i thought they were my god this

1:37:32

is a challenge but i don't i

1:37:34

yes this little matters house and

1:37:36

and i like the outskirts of l a

1:37:38

which is really far i know like us on

1:37:40

forever as you know charlie so it is still analyse

1:37:43

i'm not going to be able to affect my property rights

1:37:45

at all

1:37:46

by there is that there is so i have

1:37:48

these be is there is gonna move in and the big i

1:37:50

carbs any takes the reserves like what

1:37:53

the heck any a said they got

1:37:55

another job there are

1:37:58

pollinating and of

1:37:59

avocado orchard. So of course I

1:38:02

like Google, I like to bees pollinate avocado. Oh

1:38:04

yeah, absolutely. I guess so, because

1:38:06

I was like a little, why are you taking my bees?

1:38:08

So anyway, I'm hoping to get the bees back, but. Yes,

1:38:10

send me picks please. I will, I will.

1:38:13

And they're every, he might've taken them, but

1:38:15

a lot of them refuse to go. I can just tell you

1:38:17

that right now. But anyway, so I am, there's

1:38:20

so much work with this house and I felt a little guilty

1:38:22

because I haven't done a lot of deep dives lately, but I think I

1:38:24

owe you some report from Iron Mountain. I

1:38:27

owe Courtney, we're gonna do a part two Milner

1:38:29

Fabian conspiracy, which Charlie will also

1:38:32

want to. I'll be into that, yeah. Oh, and Matt, Matt,

1:38:34

Eric will most definitely be into that as

1:38:37

well. Yes. That's right. And

1:38:39

his wheelhouse.

1:38:40

Yes, yes. Oh, actually I bought y'all's

1:38:42

book on the China PSYOP,

1:38:45

Breaking Free of the China PSYOP. I'm very excited

1:38:47

about that.

1:38:48

Yeah, cool. Yeah, give

1:38:50

me some feedback on that. I'd be really happy to share. Oh yeah,

1:38:52

well, maybe you can come talk about it

1:38:54

on one of my deep dives. That would be super fun.

1:38:57

So if you're open for business, Matt.

1:38:58

If you're talking about bees, I feel

1:39:01

like we're cross pollinating audience. Oh, Mary, I might

1:39:03

need this question. I'm way behind

1:39:05

Charlie. So that was a sensitive question.

1:39:08

I gotta just tell you that right now. Okay, sorry.

1:39:10

Well, I know you're gonna come out with something

1:39:12

that's gonna blow people away because every time

1:39:14

you put out an episode, people are talking about

1:39:16

it for a while because they've never heard of it.

1:39:19

Well, there are, I have a whole bunch of already in

1:39:21

the can as it were. So you can go to deep dives

1:39:23

with Monica Perez for that. And of course, rockbin.com

1:39:25

slash deep dives. And if you want my

1:39:28

copious show notes, for example, why

1:39:30

dinosaurs are fake, you

1:39:32

can go to Monica's

1:39:35

deep dives.com because I put all my resources

1:39:36

there. You're gonna bum out a lot

1:39:39

of little kids with that. Sorry,

1:39:41

dragons are real, but dinosaurs are fake.

1:39:44

There we go. That's cool. Well, in

1:39:46

keeping with the theme, let's talk to Matt.

1:39:48

Matt, well, tell us about the book, where we can find

1:39:50

you. You're at two of my go-to

1:39:53

places for information,

1:39:55

unlimitedhangout.com and

1:39:57

thelastamericanvagabond.com. So,

1:39:59

yeah.

1:39:59

if people are interested in finding you, what's the

1:40:02

best place for them to go? I'm

1:40:04

still just phased by the dragons are the dinosaurs

1:40:06

aren't real dragons. I really want to see those

1:40:08

show notes. Sorry, I'm not sure about the dragons,

1:40:11

but I can prove the dinosaur thing. OK,

1:40:14

hmm. Hmm. OK. All

1:40:16

right. So for me, well,

1:40:19

breaking free of anti China psyops is a special

1:40:21

report that's going to shape a bunch of documentaries

1:40:23

that I'm making right now with my wife. We've

1:40:25

done three just dealing with the

1:40:27

Chinese police stations. And Chinese

1:40:30

election interference and all sorts

1:40:32

of boogeyman images from the

1:40:34

McCarthy era that are being like cooked up again,

1:40:36

like a hypnotic spell to

1:40:38

get people to sort of, you know, nod their

1:40:40

head in acquiescence to the military industrial complex

1:40:43

pushing for, you know, a war with Russia and China. So

1:40:45

that that it's 80, 80 pages

1:40:47

or so. Part

1:40:49

two is going to come out. That's translated into

1:40:51

Japanese and it's going to be in the Japanese market this

1:40:54

week in Japanese bookstores, which is

1:40:56

I'm super stoked about that. Apparently, some

1:40:58

Japanese people don't want to get caught in the crossfire

1:41:00

of a nuclear war, the way a bunch of Ukrainians are setting

1:41:02

themselves up to. So that's good. There's some spark

1:41:05

for life there. Canadian

1:41:09

Patriot Dotorg is the best place to go to buy

1:41:11

those things, including the clash of the two Americas

1:41:14

for volume, you know, origins of the deep state

1:41:16

going back to the

1:41:17

Venetian takeover of Britain back in the 1688 period.

1:41:21

So that's a fun one. Yeah.

1:41:24

Yeah, that's a few things.

1:41:25

Yeah. You're always doing interesting stuff when

1:41:27

I get your emails. I make sure to read them

1:41:29

because I know that it's going to be. Yeah.

1:41:32

You know, I'm kind of into that stuff right now,

1:41:34

that British empire

1:41:37

fuckery. I don't know how else to describe it, but

1:41:40

I'm into it for sure. Well,

1:41:42

listen to your Thomas Huxley presentation. I was that

1:41:44

was bad ass. That was really. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah,

1:41:46

that's kind of what I'm talking about. Those guys

1:41:48

are like a new like

1:41:52

a whole new era area for me, like

1:41:54

these old timey lunatics that

1:41:56

wanted to depopulate everybody, that they're

1:41:59

fascinating.

1:41:59

We're a bunch of bunch of weirdos.

1:42:02

Uh, Jeff Warnock is from

1:42:05

empathize studios and he's my buddy

1:42:08

in Denver and he's the secret caller to OBDM.

1:42:10

And I bet you you're so bummed that Mike isn't on this

1:42:12

call tonight because you're

1:42:15

Jeff in Denver that calls OBDM. Yeah.

1:42:17

Now refer to as breaker breaker. Yeah.

1:42:20

You got a GI Joe name because you're, you're a frequent caller

1:42:22

to OBDM and Mike's not here.

1:42:25

Oh,

1:42:26

next time we'll have you back. Yeah. But,

1:42:29

uh, yeah, I make music. So if you want to hear some vibey

1:42:31

electronic tunes, check me out on all streaming platforms,

1:42:34

empathize two words, empathize,

1:42:36

like the things on her face that most people choose not

1:42:38

to use. Uh, and my day job is

1:42:40

media production video audio, that sort

1:42:42

of thing. So if you have any questions, production questions,

1:42:45

just want to drop me a line. Best place for that

1:42:47

is empathizestudio.com

1:42:49

or on Instagram at empathize studio.

1:42:52

So thanks. Awesome. And thanks

1:42:54

to

1:42:55

Susie for making, for, for thinking to invite

1:42:57

Jeff. I had no idea that you, the two of you were,

1:43:00

were friends and Jeff shows up and it's, and

1:43:02

it's fantastic. Where can people find you and

1:43:05

your work and

1:43:06

everything related. Everywhere. I

1:43:09

traveled the country and speak at all the places,

1:43:11

uh, right now, and it's just for family health.org.

1:43:15

Um, I have a network of leaders from

1:43:17

across the world that are trying

1:43:20

to create a new network of communication

1:43:22

to effectively impact change in countries.

1:43:25

Right now we were working with

1:43:26

some doctors in Brazil. They passed legislation

1:43:28

that made it so that doctors went to jail for

1:43:31

eight years if they spoke out against COVID,

1:43:33

um, and all the protocols.

1:43:35

So I've been working with people everywhere

1:43:37

with that. Um, that's the inspired network.

1:43:41

And I'm kind of just bouncing everywhere at this

1:43:43

point and building out two websites. So soon I

1:43:46

will have those for you for

1:43:46

show notes, Charlie. Awesome.

1:43:50

I appreciate that. While we're glad it,

1:43:52

and it's good that you're out on the road. There's

1:43:55

been a lot of presentations, a lot of like events

1:43:57

happening recently that, uh,

1:43:59

it seems like a good thing. We've got to

1:44:02

go support those, you know, if they come to your town

1:44:04

or if it's someplace geographically sort of close to

1:44:06

you,

1:44:07

make a trip, support it. Graham,

1:44:10

you were nice enough to have me and

1:44:12

Ricky on Outlaw last

1:44:14

week.

1:44:16

How are you, man? It's good to see you again. Yeah, doing

1:44:18

good. Yeah, doing good, thanks.

1:44:20

This has been great. Yeah, we've got, speaking of trips,

1:44:22

we've got Montana mega floods

1:44:24

with Randall Carlson. If people want to get out and get in

1:44:26

the field and listen to Randall

1:44:29

do his speeches about the

1:44:31

Younger Dryas and the floods and all kinds of

1:44:33

esoteric knowledge, that's September 18th

1:44:35

to the 23rd.

1:44:37

So that's going to be like Idaho, Montana

1:44:39

with a bunch of cool people for like five days.

1:44:42

And we also have spots

1:44:44

available in Canada. We've got a little event in Canada

1:44:47

we're doing for a weekend like cold plunges and

1:44:50

hot springs in the mountains. You

1:44:52

guys are always doing the coolest shit.

1:44:54

Where is this happening? This

1:44:57

is in, it's in BC, like Eastern BC. I

1:45:05

should know the answer to that. I

1:45:08

will be in Eastern BC very soon. So

1:45:11

it's in November. It's, I'll

1:45:13

find out right now. Okay.

1:45:15

It's natural hot springs near Invermere

1:45:17

in Canada. So it's November

1:45:19

9th.

1:45:21

Nice. And your audio

1:45:23

books, adultbrain.ca, best place?

1:45:25

Yeah, we just had the Pivot of Civilization come

1:45:27

out by Margaret Sanger. So

1:45:30

this kind of like fits in with this whole discussion.

1:45:33

Yeah, yeah, she's a fucking lunatic.

1:45:35

Early to mid 1900s, you know? Yeah, yeah,

1:45:38

yeah. She wanted to solve her quote,

1:45:40

Negro problem.

1:45:42

Well, happy Juneteenth to Margaret

1:45:44

Sanger, apparently. Don't

1:45:47

wait till the last minute to wish her a

1:45:49

happy Juneteenth. She did more

1:45:51

to kill black people than just about anybody

1:45:53

in America. Congratulations to

1:45:56

her. And of course, Hillary Clinton

1:45:58

won the Margaret Sanger Award in.

1:45:59

that she was so thrilled because she was

1:46:02

such an idol of hers. That's awesome.

1:46:04

But man, those books,

1:46:06

I bet they're fascinating to

1:46:09

read. I've only kind of looked

1:46:11

through a little bit, but I haven't really like read

1:46:14

cover to cover any of the Margaret Sanger stuff,

1:46:16

but she's, it was out of her fucking mind.

1:46:18

Yeah.

1:46:18

And then everything else you can find at grandamerica.ca,

1:46:21

our podcast and everything like that. So awesome.

1:46:24

Thanks. Courtney, what's happening

1:46:26

in the show? Hi. Yeah.

1:46:29

So I'm quite behind as well and

1:46:31

stuff too, because I just wrapped up

1:46:33

the cause.

1:46:35

Yes. And we are crazy

1:46:37

enough to gear up for the next

1:46:39

one. So we're planning in, it

1:46:42

looks like it's going to be the second weekend of October

1:46:44

in Florida. So we're,

1:46:46

we're preparing for that. We're going down.

1:46:48

We're in Florida.

1:46:50

We're looking probably like West Palm

1:46:52