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Hello, hello, hello.

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Hello, hello, hello.

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There's a new creation, a new Unmade

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Podcast item, piece of merchandise

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that I'm really very, very excited about.

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You are quite the artisan

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when it comes to the Unmade Podcast

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merchandise. I'm more of an overseer. I

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don't actually do the art. I kind of, I'm more,

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I have the vision and then

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I let the artisans do the art. Well, that's what

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Michelangelo said, too, because he had like

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underlings helping and so forth. You're being humble.

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You really are an artist. You have vision. You do

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have vision. In fact, one of my humility

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is one of my great strengths. It is. It is.

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I've been always impressed with your humility. I

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know you've always been impressed with your own humility as

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well.

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Yeah, I've always, I

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have many strengths. Humility is just one of them.

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Artistic vision is one. Humility

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is another. I'll tell you what one of my strengths is not,

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though, and that is working with leather. But

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luckily, I've met someone who is quite good at working

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with leather. There's

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a leather guy who is near

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me and he's opened up a workshop. And

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I have had him craft for us

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Unmade Podcast leather

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keyrings.

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Wow. I thought you were going to say leather

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pants, but I'm glad

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you've gone with keyrings. We

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haven't got the pants yet, but I rule nothing

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out. I reserve the right. But

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let me show you on the screen.

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Yeah. Oh, that is beautiful.

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That is lovely. Look at that.

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That's class. So let me tell you, this has been made

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by Steve at Nelson and

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Forge. Oh, yes. I've got a video

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of it being made so people

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can go and watch. Let me play some of the sounds

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now. This is just some of the sounds of the keyring

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being made for people to listen to.

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I know what you're thinking, Tim. I can already read

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your mind. I know what your first question is going to be. Uh,

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what? Humor me.

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Um, are these going to be for sale or

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as gifts?

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Oh man, you're so crass.

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Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's not about money.

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It's not about gifts. No. It's about the

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art. What was

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my first question going to be? Um,

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do they match your boots? Um,

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did you get a whip? What about

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a knapsack? All I want is a knapsack. Tell

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me about the tannery where this, these leather

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was made. Oh, that goes without saying. Tell

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me about the tannery. This leather comes

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from Britain's only Oakbark

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tannery. It's in the County of Devon. It's

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been run by the same family for 150 years. Wow.

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I assume multiple people. I assume that there hasn't

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been one person for those whole 150 years. He'd

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have skin like leather. And

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it's been the site of a tannery since Roman

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times. Wow. So

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that's fantastic. What,

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what, what does it cost? Just

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how do I get one? Come on. We

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will come to that. So the leather, where, what are

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the, what is the leather from? Do you know? Like

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it's a cow. It's a cow. Yes. It was a 14

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month coloring process using

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this Oakbark coloring process,

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which helps preserve the fiber of the

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leather. Apparently it's a very special coloring process.

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And here's the best bit. Yeah. That color.

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How would you describe that shade of color

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to the civilians? It's, it's, well, it's a dark

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brown, but I could get a bit more creative

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and, and talk about it. Yeah. Like a wood.

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Go on. It's sort of a leather cover. Isn't

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it really? It's a leather.

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leather. Yes,

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like a comfort craftsman R.M.

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Williams boot. But

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yeah. Yeah. This shade of colour,

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which is used in the horse bridal

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industry, its official name is

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Australian Nut. Look

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at that. Beautiful. That does look lovely

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Australian, doesn't it? It's got a lovely familiar

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sort of feel. So people can have their very

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own Australian Nut unmade

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podcast, handcrafted

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leather keyring. As worn

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by

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light horsemen in World War One. As

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used to unlock Brady's door. Yeah,

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and you're Australian. Wow. Yes.

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There's something real and authentic about leather.

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Like, do you hold it and just like smell

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it? It also smells lovely. It

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smells like a mixture of new boots.

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Or when you open your cricket bag

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and it's full of all new equipment

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and you haven't got it all sweaty yet. So it still smells

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leathery and not like opening a sweaty

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sauna box. Yes, yes. It's

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a lovely smell. It smells like new R.M. Williams

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boots. Yeah, yeah. Or a nice new belt.

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Oh, lovely. Yeah.

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Makes you proud to be Australian, doesn't it? That's

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great. It does. It makes me proud

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to be an Australian nut. So

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obviously I will send a couple

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of these to you

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for your personal leather collection,

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because I know you like a bit of leather. But

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you did ask the question, how does one obtain

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one of these? The plan so far

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is that they are going to be exclusively

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given to Patreon supporters.

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Wow. Good stuff. Go to patreon.com

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slash unmadefm. Become a Patreon supporter. The

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first 10 we're giving away will

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be announced later in the episode. So

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hang around. So these people will get them at the

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same time as me. Yeah. And I'll still

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have that really fresh leather.

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love

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of God. And it's the for love for the

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love of God. This is like uber modern art.

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And he's got like a skull that

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was covered in something like a thousand

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diamonds. So it's worth a ridiculous amount of

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money. Yeah. But I kind of and he called

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it for the love of God, which I, I don't know, because

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I kind of like the irony of it being modern art

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and for the love of God. That's kind of

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a good statement as a minister. So I've been, I've been, yeah,

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I've had that as my key ring for probably 10

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years. Time to trade that bad

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boy in, Tim. Oh, I've got to upgrade

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a leather. Real modern art. That is some

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unmade. But imagine if

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we moved into into saddles

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and so forth. Handmade in a

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leather shop. What's the name for a leathery, a leathery

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place? Did you say a tanner? Or is it

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the tanner? Well, the tanner is where they make the leather,

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but the person actually then cuts the leather and makes

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it into the, you know, Steve. I don't know what he's, he's

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not a leather smith. Like, and they're not a cobbler.

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That's when it's specifically

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boots and I think. I

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think that's shoes. Yeah. He's a key

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ring monger. That's true.

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Does he, what, what else does

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he make boots or does he make all sorts of stuff? He does

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do shoes. He does like a shoe making course. I

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went and made some leather trainers at his, on

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a course with him. So you can do

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shoes. I made my own handmade shoes. I

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think of all the, you know, when you think about people who have

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jobs and people have all sorts

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of different jobs. Unlike us. Let's

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say they're

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making YouTube clips and podcasts and

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like being a minister of the church and stuff, but they

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have like a real job of all the real

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artists, you know, real crafty jobs.

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I reckon like a cobbler is, it's

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probably, it's just one of those real primal

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ones where I'm almost

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envy of how crafty

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and real and authentic it sort of is. You must

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just walk away from being a blacksmith.

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Oh, well, that's a,

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that is quite exciting. I mean, make, make an horse

9:53

shoes. That's real work. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's what I was going to do, but I didn't get into it at uni.

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So I had to settle for being a minister.

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Imagine

10:03

that just wanting to make horse shoes really badly.

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That's right. That was my

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thing. Yeah. There's nothing more fun

10:09

than watching people shoe a horse. Just

10:12

general horse husbandry is always enjoyable

10:15

to watch.

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Parrish

10:20

notices. Kent

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F wrote an email. Tim, have you

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have you jumped on the AI bandwagon yet? Are

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you all into the AI? No, I'm

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resisting. I'm like. Oh, you struck

10:31

me as someone that would be well into it. Oh,

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no. No. No. Not

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at all. And

10:38

every every second presentation I go to these

10:41

days where they say, well, because I'm in the academic

10:43

circles.

10:44

Well, I want to talk about AI. So

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I went on to chat TP3 and

10:49

I wrote or CP3 and I wrote in presentation

10:52

on AI for this conference. And this is what

10:54

you know what I mean? Like they do the whole double meta

10:56

thing and it's just like, yeah, OK. Yeah. Yeah.

10:59

Right. I think I don't want to insult

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you, Tim, because I think you're a good preacher, but

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I think general preaching

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and ministering is something that very easily

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could be done by AI because I've sat through a lot

11:12

of sermons in my time. Yes. And they're

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so the same. Yes. So samey.

11:17

They're they're made for these

11:20

chat AI things that can just like write

11:22

things that sound generic and sound

11:25

real. Like I think writing sermons

11:27

would be the easiest thing in the world for an

11:30

AI. Yes, absolutely. It would. Yeah.

11:32

Short 30 minute presentation on

11:35

something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

11:37

they may be an improvement for many of us, to

11:39

be honest. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Anyway,

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Kent F. wrote Brady

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and Tim,

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I think you will find this interesting and or

11:49

comical. Do with it what you will. I

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prompted chat GPT

11:53

with tell a story of Brady

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and Tim getting KFC. Here

11:58

is the result. I'm not going. read the whole thing

12:01

because frankly i find them really boring

12:03

to read these things

12:05

they managed to have a lot of well crafted words

12:07

and sentences without actually saying anything

12:10

which is kind of like which is also i think they'd be

12:12

brilliant at sermons. But

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but he's he's some of what

12:19

the chat gpt wrote

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about you and i getting kfc.

12:28

Brady and Tim approached the counter I

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scanning the menu board adorned with tempting

12:33

array of chicken options the decision

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was not easy for every option

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seemed

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equally enticing after

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a brief moment of deliberation they made

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their choices a bucket of original

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recipe chicken crispy fries and

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creamy coleslaw. As

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they waited for their order brady and tim

12:52

exchange stories and laughed reminiscing

12:55

about their shared adventures the

12:57

anticipation grew with each passing moment

12:59

and finally their feast was ready.

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With their mouths watering they

13:04

found a cozy booth and settled in

13:07

the moment had come

13:08

they opened the bucket revealing

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a treasure trove of golden brown

13:13

chicken pieces perfectly seasoned

13:15

and crispy. Their taste buds

13:18

danced with delight as they savored

13:20

each bite relishing the harmony

13:23

of flavors and the satisfying

13:25

crunch. Between mouthfuls

13:27

of succulent chicken brady and

13:29

tim shared their dreams discussing

13:32

future projects and brainstorming

13:34

new ideas the meal became

13:37

a catalyst for inspiration

13:38

fueling their creative spirits

13:41

and strengthening their bond as

13:43

friends and collaborators. It's

13:47

just like a danielle steel romantic novel

13:49

or something. I

13:52

don't think chat gpt understands

13:54

how focused we would have just been on the chicken.

13:59

Are you gonna eat that one? Want

14:02

to hear from you or anything else? There would be no

14:04

reminiscing. There would be no brainstorming.

14:07

There would be that gravy's mind. Do

14:10

you know what I think that is? That

14:13

version is the version that our

14:15

wives hear when they hear us tell anecdotes.

14:17

It's like, yeah, it's just

14:20

like snore. Here we go. It's

14:22

the boring. Yeah. Yeah, great. It's like

14:25

this story. Yeah. The

14:27

real story would be Brady ate a

14:29

drumstick.

14:30

Tim ate one as well. Then they had the

14:32

chips. Shall we get more? Yeah,

14:35

go on. Absolutely. Continue

14:38

to eat. Focused. Yeah, it

14:40

is about the chicken. What about you? You're not into

14:42

the AI or you are, but. No,

14:44

I haven't really been following. I should. I

14:47

know I should. And there

14:48

are lots of tools in AI that

14:51

would make my work easier, maybe with video editing

14:53

and picture editing and audio, but I just

14:55

haven't. I haven't got time to learn new stuff,

14:57

really. Like I'm too busy doing my

14:59

current stuff. I feel

15:01

like here's something that's going to change

15:03

everything and not for the better.

15:06

Like this will be a thing where it's like, oh yeah,

15:08

this is not, this is not, I don't like

15:10

this.

15:11

Like Twitter. I

15:16

don't mind Twitter. I hate Facebook. It's going

15:19

to be like, oh, this is going to be a thing,

15:21

isn't it? But yeah, it's

15:23

a bit like I haven't got, maybe we were just getting too old

15:25

for things now. Yeah. You

15:27

can't teach old dogs new tricks. No. We're just

15:30

a couple of Australian nuts. We are a

15:32

couple of old dogs. Old leathery

15:35

Australian nut key rings, we are. Do

15:38

you remember in

15:41

the previous proper episode, Yaniv

15:43

from Israel showed us his magic

15:46

spot on his chin that if he rubbed his

15:48

chin in a certain spot, just touched his chin,

15:50

he would just

15:51

spontaneously get hiccups? Yes,

15:54

I do. Was it the hiccups or yawn? Was

15:56

it, it was the hiccups. It was hiccups. Okay.

15:58

It was hiccups. It would trigger a hiccups.

15:59

a hiccup fit, yeah. So, we've

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heard from many people that want to tell us

16:05

about parts of their body you can touch to

16:07

trigger reactions. Wow. As

16:09

is Borah Shedd

16:11

said, I have the same hiccup spot

16:13

on my chin. I thought I was the only

16:15

one when I recently learned that my brother

16:18

and one of my friends both have a

16:20

hiccup chin spot. Gosh. I

16:22

really, really hate getting hiccups. I'm always

16:24

careful when I dry my beard not

16:27

to trigger it. Wow. This

16:28

sounds like it's a real thing. There's a spot

16:30

on your chin that gives you hiccups. This is amazing.

16:33

That's phenomenal. That's bizarre. The H

16:35

spot we called it, remember? Do they? That's funny.

16:37

To actually to not go looking for

16:39

it, but actually to be careful because it can set

16:41

it off. I don't. I

16:44

haven't got it. I don't think I've got it. Tim and I are

16:46

both prodding our beards at the moment without

16:48

success. No.

16:51

I feel like we need to verify this somehow. Well,

16:54

I, as far as I'm concerned, it's verified.

16:56

We've had so many people talking about it. We also

16:58

heard from BeingTheHunt on Reddit.

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In response to your call out for other people

17:03

who have a magical part of their body that can be

17:06

pressed to cause a physical reaction, I

17:08

can stroke the skin of my arm

17:10

or torso and I will get goosebumps

17:13

only on that side of my body with

17:16

a perfect line down the centre of my

17:18

chest and stomach between where I have

17:20

goosebumps and where I don't. And he

17:22

or she has read online about other people that get this. So

17:25

you touch your arm or your torso and you get goosebumps

17:27

just down half your body with a perfect line

17:30

down the middle separating line

17:31

like a goosebump equator. Wow.

17:34

Goosebump International Date Line

17:36

because it's vertical. And is it Greenwich

17:38

Meridian of goosebumps? Is it true? Is

17:40

it true then that I always remember as a kid, the

17:43

left side of your brain takes care of the right

17:45

side of your body and then the right side.

17:47

Is that true? Because I know there's other parts, other

17:49

things are left brain and right. There is truth to that. Yeah. So

17:52

there could there is a dividing line down the middle

17:54

of us.

17:55

Yeah. Perhaps that's the welding

17:57

bit when we were put together. That's the seal bit. And

18:00

he's got there is a bit of there is a bit of that

18:02

there is a bit of that BHJ

18:05

said, said on the theme

18:07

of magical parts of our bodies that can be pressed

18:09

for some kind of physical reaction I

18:12

have a particular area on the back of my

18:14

head

18:15

just where it meets the neck and very

18:17

slightly to the left. Where

18:19

if I pull the hair I will

18:21

sneeze and regarding

18:23

pranks yes most of my close friends

18:26

and my long term partner find it hilarious

18:28

and have in the past pulled it to make me sneeze.

18:31

Luckily I'm balding and so

18:33

I keep my hair so short now it's hard

18:35

to do but I still am able

18:38

to do it myself by rubbing and pulling at the

18:40

short hairs in the area so just

18:42

on the back of your neck. We

18:45

have we heads meeting your neck to the left there

18:48

give that a yank and you get sneeze I'm

18:50

not getting that. No I wonder

18:53

if it's an anatomical thing

18:55

or if it's somehow a psychological thing you

18:57

know where the brain remembers a moment from I

18:59

don't

18:59

know from an early on when they had

19:02

to sneeze when this happened and I don't

19:04

know. Good question I like

19:06

this I like this idea of all these magic buttons

19:08

on our body like you know yeah. It's

19:11

no purpose whatsoever it's funny everyone seems

19:13

to be quite annoyed they go to lengths to avoid

19:15

it happening. It's not like a magic

19:18

power where you like you know when I when

19:20

I push my elbow I can fly. You haven't got me

19:22

there are no buttons on your body. No there's not

19:25

no I'm

19:26

trying to think I of course would know but. Are

19:29

you ticklish. Yes I am on

19:31

my on the tops of my knees or

19:33

on my leg just there so if we're driving along

19:35

and she reaches over and you know. My

19:38

wife touches the top of my leg that all

19:40

that's yeah I can't handle that I'll

19:43

veer off the road before.

19:46

Yeah I've got this point

19:48

on the top of my knee that if you touch it I crash

19:51

a car. That's right that's exactly right

19:53

yeah

19:54

no I'm not good with that I'm tickling on my feet

19:56

as well yeah I can really no one's tickled

19:59

my feet for. Nyeom 30 years,

20:01

but, you know, I can remember. Oh man, I'm

20:04

sorry. I promise when I come to

20:06

Australia later this year, I'll tickle your feet. Thanks

20:08

man, that's great.

20:11

It's all we do down here. We don't have much entertainment

20:14

here in Australia. We just tickle our feet,

20:16

you know. Once every 30

20:18

years, someone tickles my feet. That's

20:21

all right. That's all the excitement we need. What

20:23

about you? Are you ticklish? I was

20:26

ticklish. You seem to get less ticklish as

20:28

you get older. It probably is just because people

20:30

stop tickling you. Yeah,

20:33

you're just going, are you just numb all over

20:35

now? Is that right? You're just, parts

20:37

of you are shutting down. I'm just numbed

20:39

by life and lack of sleep.

20:41

That leathery skin

20:44

now, we're just mainly leather halfway

20:46

to the tanner ourselves, really, and if you prod

20:48

us, it just, you know. I think I am

20:50

ticklish though. My thing

20:53

I don't like is I don't like being touched on

20:55

places that I feel are vulnerable

20:57

for like death reasons.

21:00

Like, but not like, not like

21:02

I'm going to get killed, but like that feel like vulnerable

21:04

parts of my body because of like veins and

21:07

like, I don't like being touched on my wrists, where

21:09

the veins and that are, or my neck, or

21:12

like right on the middle of my chest where my

21:14

heart is. I don't like being touched

21:17

on those places that would be vulnerable

21:19

to like, you know, stabbing or attack.

21:21

Not that

21:22

I just don't like being touched there at all.

21:23

Like I hate having my pulse taken. I

21:26

hate having my pulse taken. I can't

21:28

handle it. Wow. Yeah.

21:30

I quite like it. I like someone holding my hand

21:32

and yeah, right. Let's unpack that

21:34

for the next hour or so. That's interesting. Have

21:41

you had any operations? Have you had an operation

21:43

where you've been,

21:44

well, cut open? No. No, I've

21:46

never been cut open. That's interesting. Have you?

21:49

Yes. Yeah. My testes

21:52

didn't come down. Yeah,

22:09

it was a tough period for you in your 30s. I'm

22:12

totally leaving that. How old were you? I

22:15

was a little kid. So

22:18

you can't remember? I can remember being in hospital. Oh,

22:20

so you were old enough. It wasn't like you were newborn. You

22:22

like, you know, you'd got... What?

22:25

They just had to yank them down, did they?

22:29

Yeah.

22:31

Well,

22:37

that's a delicate one. Well, yeah,

22:39

that's right. It is. Yeah. But

22:41

it's, I also had another operation on my hand.

22:44

Do you remember, do you remember I got an infection? I remember you coming

22:46

to visit me. This is in 1996. I

22:49

got like a burn in my finger,

22:51

my left pointy finger and

22:53

index finger, and then it got infected.

22:58

I think because I went and I was doing night fill

23:00

at the supermarket, which is just like

23:01

places just covered in germs and

23:03

stuff. Yeah. But

23:06

it sort of blew up infected and I had

23:08

a terrible night, couldn't sleep. It was

23:10

so hot and painful. It was blown

23:12

up like a balloon. And then I went

23:14

to the doctor the next day and he sent me to emergency

23:17

and the emergency doctor looked at it and said, we're

23:19

operating today to try and save your hand. And

23:22

I was like, wow. Oh, God. So

23:24

I went straight. He said, when did you last eat

23:26

like it was that quick? And to

23:29

get me in to operate. And then

23:31

I woke

23:31

up, you know, however many hours later and

23:33

there's this massive, all those bandages

23:35

everywhere. But over the next couple of days, as they changed the

23:38

bandages, I could see there was this massive opening

23:40

scar all the way down my hand. It's

23:42

a bit like the Harry Potter scar, except it's down

23:44

the inside of my palm, my index finger

23:47

rather than on my forehead. Do you have like a

23:49

lightning scar on your testes? Do

23:55

you think you'll get a lot of clicks on this episode if we call

23:57

it Tim's testes? I

24:10

tell you what, now

24:12

we know what we call the Australian nut. Well,

24:19

that's a conversation to go. Anyway, I've

24:21

still got the scar on my hand, which I kind of like that scar

24:23

on my hand. Yeah, that's cool. That's a cool. Do you ever tell

24:25

people it's like a shark attack or something? No,

24:28

I once told a kid that I'd caught a bullet,

24:30

that someone had shot a bullet and I'd caught it in my

24:33

hand and that had caused the scar. Awesome. The

24:35

kid was so impressed with

24:38

that. You

24:40

look impressed. Like the look on

24:42

your face, you look like really proud that you call it a problem. You know

24:44

when you get away with a story, it's almost like it kind

24:47

of did happen, you

24:48

know, like it's almost like it kind of

24:50

did happen. I can

24:52

visualize it in the lie. Did

24:56

you sometimes tell people you caught a bullet with your testes?

25:03

This is not staying in. This

25:06

is not staying in the audience. I've

25:08

got to keep some of it. We've

25:14

got to keep... You're only a little baby. Oh,

25:17

dear. Yeah,

25:20

they needed four surgeons to get them now. It

25:26

was for the doctor was like that moment

25:29

in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He turned around and this massive

25:31

boulder was rolling towards him.

25:39

I could just see the look on the doctor's face

25:41

as he turns around like in the entrance.

25:46

Oh,

25:49

dear. All right.

25:55

Tim, this idea is kind of half baked. Surprise, surprise.

25:57

Oh, yeah. Yep. Good work. Yep. I

26:00

haven't decided what to call it yet because I'm not

26:02

sure which direction the idea is going to go.

26:04

Oh yes. Let me tell you where it comes from. I

26:06

was watching a bit of football recently and there's

26:09

a bit of a tradition in football,

26:11

soccer football. This is that

26:13

at the end of a game, particularly if it's a big

26:16

game or an important game or a team you don't play

26:18

very often, that the players at the end

26:20

swap shirts and take

26:22

off their shirts and swap them with their opponent

26:24

and you keep your opponent's shirt as like a memento

26:27

of the game. And a lot of players have

26:29

like shirts of famous players they've played against

26:31

on display in their homes, you

26:33

know, and if you're playing against someone really famous like

26:36

Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi,

26:38

everyone wants that shirt. That's the shirt you want to swap

26:40

with at the end. Yeah, yeah. Traditionally, you might

26:42

swap shirt with the player who you were against,

26:45

like who was marking you in that game, but there's no rhyme

26:47

or reason as to who gets the shirt. Everyone

26:49

wants the shirt of the famous player. Anyway,

26:51

that got me thinking, like imagine if like you

26:54

had a podcast where you swapped shirts

26:56

at the end, like after you've presented together or you've

26:58

had a guest, like swap shirts, like,

27:01

you know, thanks for being on the show. And at the end, you

27:03

take off your shirts and things like that. So that's where

27:05

I was just starting with this sort of grain

27:07

of an idea of podcasts where you swap shirts

27:09

with your guests, which I thought

27:11

would be quite funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously.

27:14

Yeah. But then I got thinking, my mind

27:16

started wondering and I thought, wouldn't

27:18

it be interesting to do, maybe it's more of

27:20

a video or a TV thing, but it could also

27:22

be a podcast where you swap wardrobes

27:24

with someone for a week.

27:26

Like I spend a week just dressing in

27:28

all your clothes and you spend a week dressing in all my

27:30

clothes and at the end of the week you talk about what was

27:33

it like, you know, wearing the shirt off someone

27:35

else's back. Yeah, yeah. What

27:37

would you think about swapping wardrobes

27:39

with someone? I like that idea. Do

27:42

you know why I like it? Because

27:44

it strikes a chord with me. I remember staying

27:46

in my cousin's house, like

27:48

house sitting 20 years ago or something

27:50

when he went on a long holiday for like two weeks and

27:53

I was a single guy, so I come and stayed in their house and

27:56

I wore a couple of his jumpers and I kind

27:59

of, I just. There was one I just

28:01

loved wearing, like I love this and

28:03

it's almost like I love it so much I want to keep

28:05

it. But it was kind of like, wow, I'm in

28:07

his like a really nice jumper,

28:09

an expensive jumper. And it was just like fun

28:12

to wear. And I remember thinking this

28:14

is

28:15

like I just want to like I want to go out and I'm going

28:17

to wear that. And I was thinking about where I could go out to wear

28:19

it because I was enjoying wearing it so much. It was just

28:21

such a lovely jumper.

28:23

And it would be funny just to step

28:25

into someone else's whole wardrobe for

28:27

a week. Yeah, that would be really

28:29

interesting. I've borrowed a jumper off someone

28:31

once, you know, because I was out somewhere and it was cold and

28:34

they said, oh, here, I've got a spare jumper. And I remember

28:36

thinking it was a great jumper, better than any

28:38

I owned and wearing it three or

28:40

four times before I gave it back. Yeah, I know.

28:42

And like not wanting to give it back because I thought this

28:45

is why like and, you know, I

28:47

could buy that jumper. I could buy any jumper

28:49

in the world within reason. Yeah. And yet it's

28:51

always someone else's jumper. You want more?

28:53

You want no good? Like other

28:55

people's clothes are always better than your clothes. I

28:57

don't know why that is. How

29:00

would you feel about wearing my clothes for a week? Well,

29:02

yeah, you're I mean, you're all right, dresser. You you

29:04

you wear.

29:05

I guess I mean, you know what I mean?

29:07

We don't dress too dissimilarly in a way.

29:10

No, I dress a lot better since I got married

29:12

and just wear what my wife tells me. Yeah,

29:15

you do. Yes, that's that

29:17

is true. You can definitely look at photos of me and tell

29:20

if I if it's pre or before I met my

29:22

wife. I think you always dressed pretty

29:24

standard. You know what I mean? Like I think you

29:27

dress. No, I was a safe dresser. You

29:29

were you were you were sort of like, you know, like,

29:31

you know, like a guy of your

29:33

age in an American sitcom

29:35

kind of dressed guy. You know what

29:37

I mean? Like you were sort of dressed standard,

29:41

you know, atypical. What I mean by that, you

29:43

were never captured by some subculture.

29:45

You were never sort of like, oh, he's wearing

29:47

grunge or he's a heavy metal guy

29:50

or he's a hip hop guy or, you

29:52

know, you never. You were a little bit more because you're

29:54

so into like music and music culture, you're

29:56

sometimes a little bit more susceptible to

29:58

trying to be cooler than.

31:59

It wouldn't fit right, it wouldn't come out

32:02

of your bradiness. But what clothes

32:04

do you wear that you don't, you know, see

32:06

on someone else in some context that some,

32:09

you know, at least influenced by seeing other

32:11

people wearing that kind of clothes? No, entirely,

32:14

entirely. That's where all our desires come

32:16

from someone else. They're all, there's a philosophy

32:18

in this. It's, it's, it's, we all, all our

32:21

desires are mimetic, mimetic desire,

32:23

which means mimic, they're imitated. We

32:25

get all our desires from the things we see

32:28

around us and we go, I want that and I want to

32:29

be like that. They don't arise

32:32

out of our own imagination, you know, they,

32:34

they arise out of imitating someone

32:37

else, even if it's bits and pieces from different

32:39

people. So if we swap shirts at the end

32:41

of this episode,

32:42

what I'm, you're getting this white t-shirt

32:44

with the Dreamville logo

32:47

written across it, which is actually, it was my pajama

32:49

t-shirt last night, I'm afraid. Well, you'll have

32:51

to wash it before you give it to me, that's for sure. You

32:54

would, you would want to wash this, I think. And what would I

32:56

be getting off you? Sort of that green, uh,

32:58

sweater-y type thing? I've just got a black

33:00

t-shirt.

33:01

I got like about eight of these black t-shirts that

33:03

I put on every day. Yeah. And then, but then

33:05

I have a jumper. It's just a nice, quite a nice jumper,

33:08

Uniqlo. That's a nice jumper. Yep. Yeah. I,

33:10

I get, this is a Brady, not un-Brady

33:13

like jumper. I like it.

33:15

I've got some black jeans. That's a good swap. No,

33:17

we're not swapping jeans and shorts or anything.

33:20

Right. Just t-shirts. Yeah. Yeah.

33:22

And. Keep those testies

33:24

under wraps, man.

33:29

Now, Tim, it's time for a very special segment,

33:31

a segment people love and know. Do

33:34

you want to sing it this week? Cause you're taking the reins this

33:36

week. I can. What's, what's this segment called? Cartoon

33:45

of the Week. Yes. Well,

33:48

I know this is a favorite part of the episode. Everyone

33:50

looks forward to Cartoon of the Week. And,

33:53

um, this week I've been thinking through, uh,

33:56

all sorts of cartoons and

33:58

I tell you, Jesus, hard to come down.

33:59

on something and I've locked it down to two.

34:03

Should I ask you to pick one or should I just go with

34:05

what I want to do? You go with what you want.

34:07

What's what's cartoon of the week? Cartoon

34:10

of the week this week

34:12

is Bluey.

34:13

Man, good choice. As

34:16

a because my my little boy has

34:18

just gotten. Well, he doesn't really understand

34:20

it or watch it, but I've been watching some Blueys and

34:23

I've got something to say about Bluey. But you take you

34:25

take the lead first. It's your your segment. Tell

34:27

people what Bluey is. Bluey is

34:29

an Australian

34:31

cartoon. And if

34:33

you know about Peppa Pig, it's

34:35

a cooler Australian version

34:38

of Peppa Pig in a way for

34:40

about the same age group, except it has a level

34:42

of sophistication that means that adults enjoy

34:45

it as well. I think it's a really, really

34:47

clever series. It's

34:50

recent. It's now like it was started in 2018

34:52

and it all surrounds

34:55

a blue healer, which is an Australian

34:57

dog

34:58

called Bluey. She's a blue hero and

35:00

the whole family are blue heroes. Yeah,

35:02

there's there's Dad, Mum, Bluey, who's the

35:04

boy and Bingo, who's the little girl

35:06

dog. That's right. And the Dad and Mum

35:08

are bandit and chilly and they're

35:11

a little family and they live in a Queenslander

35:14

home. Queensland being a state of Australia and

35:16

Queenslander being a house that's typical.

35:18

They're a big Australian home up on Stilts and,

35:20

you know, with a big backyard. There are no humans

35:22

in this show. They're all it's all about like dogs are

35:24

humans that live in houses and. Yep. And

35:27

they and they just go

35:28

through life as a little family

35:30

with the kids learning. And it's all about kind of Bluey

35:33

and Bingo and learning

35:35

lessons and little morals and little elements.

35:37

But the wonderful feature, there's

35:40

features all the way through it of the little quirks

35:42

of what it means to be a family with little kids. And

35:44

it's so endearing and it's so lovely.

35:47

And it has lots of little quintessential Australian

35:50

bits and pieces in it that that Australians would

35:52

pick up. But I think it seems in

35:54

their own way are quite endearing to people around

35:56

the world as well.

35:58

It's massive in the UK. huge,

36:00

huge show in the UK. Oh, really? Yeah. Tim,

36:03

I watched two episodes of Bluey Back to Back

36:06

the other day. I was with my little boy. He

36:08

wasn't really paying attention. He was just playing with

36:10

toys or whatever he was doing, but I ended up watching them just

36:12

sitting on the sofa watching two episodes. And

36:16

usually here on the BBC, they play two

36:18

back to back because it's such a short

36:20

show. They usually show two episodes

36:23

back to back. I watched these two episodes.

36:26

Both of them had me crying at the end. Yeah,

36:28

I know this. They were so emotional

36:31

and touching and heartfelt with such

36:33

a great lesson taught in such a brilliant way.

36:35

The first one, I had a little cry at the end. The

36:38

second one had

36:39

me in pieces. It was brilliant. I

36:41

think it was an episode called Camping when

36:43

Bluey goes camping with his family

36:46

and makes a little friend. And it's about how you

36:48

make these friends on a camping trip and you may

36:50

not see them again and stuff. It was fantastic.

36:53

So moving. It's worshipped

36:55

in our house. And some new episodes have come

36:58

out like one per week. And it's like, it's

37:00

up, it's up, it's up. Come and have a look. That's

37:02

the cry that goes up. Because your girls, I would have thought, were

37:04

too old for Bluey. But they've been watching Bluey

37:06

since for the last few years,

37:09

but they

37:09

love it. And I love it, too. It's just the same

37:11

as you. And they hold on to these things. For

37:14

them, it's nostalgic, but they genuinely look they're

37:16

still into it totally. And I think it really

37:18

because

37:19

because it's so sincere and

37:21

there's a few things about it that I really, really love

37:24

because it's so sincere. It

37:26

works for different ages because it's

37:28

not like, oh, I grow out of that lesson. The lesson

37:30

becomes more true as you get older. Whatever

37:33

little lesson she learns. You

37:35

look at it through the parents, the parent dogs,

37:38

you look at it through their eyes when you are. Because like the dad's

37:40

a typical dad who sometimes is a bit lazy

37:42

and doesn't want to have to do his duties

37:45

as a parent. But then but then he kind of

37:47

does. And he realizes it's his responsibility.

37:49

He does it so well. And like

37:52

it's very it's very real. Well, I

37:54

think I think actually that's maybe

37:56

one of the most unique and defining features

37:58

of it is that the dad.

37:59

is a positive figure like you

38:02

think about all these other cartoons like American

38:04

dad and the Simpsons.

38:07

That they're all and the

38:10

father's a family guy awful family

38:12

guy he's awful and lazy

38:14

and terrible he's a point of absolute derision

38:17

is the worst of the family. Where

38:19

is this dad's like doing the dish is sincere

38:22

he wants to do the right thing. Yeah

38:25

helping with his cooks you know like

38:27

he's part of and and P is

38:29

a positive.

38:31

Father figure which is

38:33

pretty rare on television these days

38:35

and is really refreshing really lovely. And

38:37

I really love that about it as well because I see a lot of

38:39

myself in him who where is kind of ordinary the

38:41

other thing about him that's really lovely is his

38:44

his voice by guy could David McCormick

38:46

who was in an Australian band called custard.

38:49

That were really big in the 90s so there's

38:51

a whole lot of Gen X sort

38:53

of dad's like you and me but

38:56

if you're into music in the 90s in Australia

38:58

you know custard and you sort of

39:00

know his voice and you sort of. So

39:02

it's lovely little connection to someone

39:05

like that as well no one else would really know that it's

39:07

just that it's a little like I

39:09

saw custard a bunch of times in the pub

39:11

and so now him voicing. The

39:14

main character in my kids favourite show is

39:16

like a funny little nice connection as well

39:18

I really like

39:19

that. Nice good choice.

39:21

Bluey is the cartoon of the week.

39:24

If you've never seen it check it out it's a lovely

39:26

lovely show.

39:29

All right I promised we

39:31

would give away some some

39:33

of these Australian not handmade

39:36

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39:39

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slash unmade FM if you want to be in the running Tim

39:44

I'm going to give away 10.

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Right now. Some

39:49

of them are some of them are going to

39:51

our absolute top supporters have been like the

39:53

longest and most generous for the longest time. Legends.

39:55

And half are also just completely

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randomised. Nice. No waiting.

39:59

or bias or anything just totally random

40:02

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40:48

to say if people become a Patreon supporter now

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there will be opportunities in the future as well.

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Yes, there will be. Yes. There

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will be. The answer is yes. They

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are coming. Cool. They are

41:00

coming. Absolute collectors

41:01

items. Can

41:04

I ask a question before we go on? You mentioned before

41:06

Ronaldo right when you were talking about soccer.

41:10

And yes. Can I just clarify how

41:12

many Ronaldo's are there? Are there

41:14

is it is there a Ronaldo? There are

41:17

two that are very very super famous.

41:19

Right. There's one who played for Brazil.

41:22

Right. And

41:24

led them to the 2002 World Cup. He

41:26

is the one that had a couple of funny haircuts and

41:29

shaved head. He was a striker. And

41:32

then there's Cristiano Ronaldo who

41:34

plays for Portugal. He's the current

41:36

famous Ronaldo. He's a he's

41:39

also an attacking player. He's a bit taller

41:42

and he's probably

41:44

probably got more runs on the board now. He's like he's

41:46

one of the great players. So there

41:48

are two Ronaldo's and you can someone

41:50

with your level of interest in soccer could

41:52

become confused. And how if

41:55

people are talking about Ronaldo like imagine

41:57

if there were two two of the two

41:59

best.

41:59

basketballers in the world in the 90s were both called

42:02

Jordan. Wouldn't that be confusing? Well,

42:04

no, because the Brazilian one is just

42:07

referred to as Ronaldo. Just the one word

42:09

as many Brazilian players are. They're like

42:11

Palais and Rivaldo. They tend to

42:13

just become known by one name. Whereas

42:18

the Portuguese one is generally known

42:20

as Cristiano Ronaldo. You know, he's, you

42:22

know, he's known by both names. You

42:24

would use his first name, you

42:27

know, in some contexts. Yeah, the

42:29

Brazilian one retired quite some time ago

42:31

and is now carrying a lot of timber.

42:34

Right. Right. A

42:38

Maradona amount of timber or? He

42:40

got like he did get quite overweight

42:42

like Maradona. He's very overweight. Yeah.

42:45

Great player in his day, though. Super

42:48

player. Cool. OK. Oh, that clarifies

42:51

because I yeah, that's anyway.

42:54

So, Tim, have you got an idea for a podcast

42:56

this week? I do. Oh, all right.

42:59

I'm ready. Yes, I do. You

43:01

seem surprised that I'm

43:03

I'm surprised myself to be honest. I

43:06

seem surprised because because before we started recording,

43:08

you told me you didn't. No, I've thought of one.

43:11

It's not on my list. It's inspired by something

43:13

on my list. I've been scrolling back and forward through

43:15

the list. But is it about people called Ronaldo?

43:20

I would like to interview everyone called Ronaldo

43:23

in the world, in the world. I

43:25

my idea, you can help me workshop it

43:27

a little bit because it has just come to me. So it feels

43:30

a little bit late.

43:32

The

43:34

idea the idea that I had written down was

43:37

about going back and working at

43:39

a place where you had a part time

43:41

job when you were

43:43

when you were a teenager. I

43:46

love this idea. Oh. Just like

43:48

going back and doing a job you used to do. Yeah.

43:50

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, OK. If

43:52

that's a good enough. Let's just stop there. That's my

43:54

idea. That was my idea. That was how

43:58

are you going to undo that good idea?

43:59

With an amazing name

44:02

first. I

44:04

was going to pivot it more into

44:06

a

44:07

midlife crisis. Like what other things

44:09

do you want to go back and do from, you know

44:11

what I mean? Your teenage years that people do when they

44:13

have like a midlife crisis in a film. Yeah,

44:16

yeah. All right. So you could go skateboarding and

44:18

all, you know, that sort of stuff. Yeah, yeah. But

44:21

I just love the idea of going back and doing a

44:23

shift of a job you did,

44:25

like doing a shift of your first ever job. Mm

44:28

hmm. Like stacking, like you'd go back and

44:30

stack the shelves at Foodland for a few

44:32

hours. Well, that's right. Well, I had a few part time jobs.

44:34

That wasn't the first, but that would be an

44:37

example of one. Yeah. Yeah. You could go and pump

44:39

petrol at Mick's score post, the petrol discount

44:41

king on Marion Road. That's the one I don't

44:43

want to do. I don't know why I despise

44:45

that job so much, but I don't want to do

44:47

that one. Whereas whereas when I go into

44:49

a supermarket, I get an urge to like stack

44:52

the shelves and clean things up a little bit. I

44:55

hate pumping

44:55

petrol. My first job actually

44:57

was delivering newspapers, which is

44:59

a little bit boring. But I after

45:01

that, I did clean a butcher every Saturday

45:04

afternoon. And that was a lot of fun. The butcher

45:06

shop, not the butcher himself. I hope.

45:10

Under the arms, sir.

45:12

There we go. That's right. You're cleaning

45:14

a butcher. Yes.

45:19

That must have been gruesome.

45:20

It was very I went home saturatedly

45:23

wet, but it was good fun. It was very satisfying

45:25

and cleaning and a lot of fun. And yeah,

45:27

I quite enjoyed it. But you wouldn't go home covered in

45:29

blood. You'd go home covered in water. Yeah, it's

45:32

the end of the day. So all the butchering is done

45:34

earlier in the week. And this is Saturday afternoon. The

45:36

last of it's being sold. You're helping to put it away

45:38

in the freezer. Then you're wiping down the big

45:40

counter or, you know, you're sort of cleaning,

45:43

basically cleaning. And so it's just I

45:45

just go home sat. There's big like hose

45:47

that you blow across the

45:50

shop floor and

45:50

everything. Yeah, that was good

45:53

fun. Yeah, that that's what about

45:55

you. Now, listen, I'm I think

45:57

you only had one little part time

45:59

job. there didn't you? I guess I

46:01

was I was quite privileged in that way. I

46:04

did I did stack supermarket

46:06

shelves for a couple of shifts at a supermarket

46:09

on North Adelaide, but I hated I hated

46:12

it and didn't go back. Was it you who

46:14

went and got my final pay packet for me? I didn't.

46:16

I know. We talked about because you didn't

46:18

even go back to get your final pay packet and I thought

46:20

about getting it for you. That's right. They used

46:23

to pay me in cash, like cash in an envelope

46:25

and I didn't go back and get my final one because I couldn't bear to

46:27

even go back. So I needed a couple of shifts

46:30

as that. So I wouldn't count that. The only

46:32

job I had that was a sort of a part time

46:34

job was as what

46:35

was called a copy boy. Oh, yeah. At

46:38

at the newspaper, which I just did one day a week.

46:40

It was a job that had to be done. Basically, you were like an errand

46:43

boy. Yeah. You were called a copy boy because your main

46:45

job was taking copies

46:47

of the what the pages were going to look like when

46:49

they'd been drawn up and designed by the sub

46:51

editors. You had to take them down to the photography

46:54

area and the printers and stuff. So a lot of your job

46:56

was just running up and down stairs and lifts. So

46:59

you just hear someone call copy from across

47:01

the newsroom and you'd run over and get the piece of paper

47:04

and take it down to another thing.

47:05

But you also just had to do all the

47:07

errands. You ran things around the building. You went

47:09

and bought everyone's lunches. You would

47:11

sometimes have to place bets for the gambling addicts

47:13

on the horse races and stuff. You were just like a dog's

47:16

body. And these were jobs because

47:18

it was a weekend job. These were

47:20

kind of jobs mainly for the kids

47:22

of the people who work there. Yeah. So it was

47:24

like favours for the boys. So everyone like the four

47:26

or five of us who work there were all sons and daughters

47:29

of people who worked for the newspaper. So

47:31

my dad, you know, I got the job through

47:33

my dad and I did that for a

47:35

year or two until I actually got my cadetship

47:37

as a proper

47:38

newspaper journalist. Yeah. So that was the only

47:40

job I ever did. And it wasn't like

47:42

I thought it was quite a fun job. I

47:45

quite liked it. So it doesn't feel

47:47

it was a menial normal job. It was a proper job,

47:49

but it doesn't feel like a job the way your jobs felt

47:52

like jobs, where you were doing something really that

47:54

felt really sort of boring and menial and fun

47:57

to me. I know you had fun doing it, but totally. It

47:59

was felt more.

47:59

like real jobs. I know, I know. I

48:02

mean, you being a copy boy, I know that that kind of suited

48:04

you a little bit more. I, to be honest, I

48:07

remember going into the supermarket,

48:09

probably to pick you up one day when you were in there working

48:12

and you were kind of pricing things, which

48:14

was still back in. That's how small the supermarket

48:16

was. Yeah, it was epoxy that was supermarket. You had

48:18

those guns, pricing guns, the label of the

48:20

pricing gun. Yeah. And I

48:23

remember seeing you do that and feeling

48:25

pity for you. Like, oh, no, this isn't

48:27

Brady. This doesn't work at all.

48:29

Probably sort of doing it. Getting my

48:32

hands. Slowly. I could have ended up needing

48:34

surgery like you. That's right. It was

48:36

just like, I don't know, you were inefficient

48:39

and slow. Yeah, I don't know. It was just all wrong. It

48:41

was like, no, this is. No, I'm not

48:43

a fast worker. I can't work fast. Even

48:45

now, like if it's my turn to clean

48:47

the kitchen, sometimes my wife will just get sick of watching

48:50

me do it so slowly. Yeah. Yeah,

48:52

you do. I've seen you do. You are. Yeah. That's

48:54

why do you do it fast and then it's, and

48:56

then it's done. I'm methodical.

48:58

Mm. That's one word for it.

49:00

Yeah. But I'd love to go back and do a shift as a

49:02

cos a copy boy. That was, that was a really

49:05

fun job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you get

49:07

to see all the pictures that are going to go in the paper

49:09

before they go in and watching the pages

49:11

getting laid out. That's a dream. There's

49:13

something about, I think, those jobs. If you,

49:15

if you go back and do them, there's, there's a simplicity

49:18

to them. You feel less pressure. I mean, you're

49:20

getting like

49:21

hardly any money. That's the thing. I mean, I've

49:23

got $4.50 or something. Which,

49:26

you know, for pumping petrol, but there

49:29

was, there was, I didn't also need anything really much.

49:32

So it's a particular moment of life where.

49:34

You lived like a king. I would dearly love

49:36

to hear from the listeners, from

49:38

the civilians out there about some of your

49:41

early jobs and how you would feel about going back

49:43

and doing a shift now. Is it something you would

49:45

relish, something you would loathe? What

49:47

would it be like? Does the job even exist anymore?

49:50

I imagine the copy boy jobs really

49:51

dying out now because of, because there's

49:53

not much need for moving

49:55

documents around buildings so much.

49:57

Because they can email. Someone that has gone buy their hamburgers.

50:00

at lunch, but that's about it. Yeah. Do

50:02

you- When you became a journalist and you had

50:04

copy boys running around for you then, well,

50:08

firstly, were there copy girls or were they always

50:10

copy boys? Yeah, there were copy girls. There were

50:12

copy girls who worked with me. Like, I call myself

50:14

a copy boy because, you know, they were copy

50:16

girls. Right, okay. But yeah, there were girls that worked with me. And

50:19

were you good to them because you knew what it was like to

50:21

be the one running around? Like, were you kind

50:22

to them? I think so. I mean, my job-

50:26

Most of the time I worked at the newspaper, I

50:28

had less use for them. As

50:30

a reporter, you don't have as much use for the

50:33

copy staff as sub-editors

50:36

do and the people who are laying out the pages and stuff. But

50:38

I did- You know, they delivered my post and

50:40

stuff and I'd always go and talk to them. I

50:43

was friends with- I socialised with some of them, went out

50:45

with some of them. Yeah, but I

50:47

had a different- I did have a- I probably

50:49

looked on them in a more charming

50:52

way because I'd done the job, you know, so I

50:54

felt like one of them in a way. Yeah,

50:56

yeah. Yeah. All right. Good

50:58

idea, man. Good idea. You pulled that one out of the

51:00

bag. Oh, gosh. Going back and- You

51:03

haven't got a title for it yet, but I don't know what the title would

51:05

be called, but- Part-time job. Extra

51:07

shift. Part-time job. Extra shift. Yeah, one more

51:09

shift or something. The final shift. The final

51:11

shift. Final shift. There we go. Yes. Yeah. Get

51:13

in touch, people. Remember also, Patreon.com

51:16

slash UnmadeFM. You know, we're still going to be giving

51:18

away other stuff still, like spoons and cards

51:21

and all that sort of stuff. But now we've got key rings in there

51:23

as well. They are seriously quality.

51:25

They are nice. Have you sent mine already?

51:27

Is it going to get here soon? I haven't sent it

51:29

yet. And also there's a video of

51:31

them being made that I have. So

51:33

I will link to that in the description. Very

51:36

satisfying watching leather work happen. Yes.

51:39

And this is a satisfying video with really nice sounds

51:41

as well. Nice audio, as I played

51:43

some of earlier. Good work. Did you have any secret

51:46

words you needed to smuggle into the show for your daughter's

51:48

birthday? Yes. Look, they are written on my- Oh,

51:51

yeah. I can see all the ink on your hand, but

51:53

you haven't read them. No.

51:56

No, of course not. No. They're literally

51:58

like, they're hard to- miss. I'm

52:03

going to get a kick up the butt. Blah.

52:12

Testies wasn't the other one. No,

52:17

no. No. How

52:19

did I manage to say that and not say butt?

52:23

Butt. And

52:26

what was the other word? It was blah,

52:29

which is a blah, blah, which is like

52:31

a made up word. That's a very important made

52:33

up word in with

52:35

my daughters and friends.

52:38

That would have been hard to drop in. It's literally written

52:40

on my hand. Terrible.

52:42

I'm a terrible dad. This could be a blue episode actually,

52:44

where it's like the dad continually fails.