Life is messy. We all deal with guilt and shame at different points in our life. It could be a business situation, personal relationship with a friend or loved one or with your faith. In the midst of dealing with your guilt and shame there is an element of true vulnerability that comes along with the messiness. Donald Johns talks with Phil about the realities of dealing with and processing guilt and shame and embracing true vulnerability through the lens of the Gospel. Donald shares powerful personal stories of his own struggle to embrace true vulnerability and embrace God's love for him. This is a can't miss episode!